Thanks for the heads up iam just doing a new kitchen in my cabin and need to put in new shut offs will be looking for the valves with the packing nuts ......Thank you once again !!!!
Rubber gaskets always decay and fail but if you never go through an open/close cycle it may be years and years before you know it happened. Good quality quarter turn valves don't fail often enough to be a concern.
Actually some quarter turn valve do have packing nuts, and someone multi turn don't. It just depends on the manufacturer, not the type of valve. In general though quarter turn are much less likely to leak in the first place, and they also will work years after being installed, unlikely multiturn that have rubber that decays.
Sorry Kevin, I can't agree with you on this one. We did a bathroom remodel about 12 years ago. Hot and cold water for the sink and water line for the toilet were replaced with 1/4 turn valves. No leaks. It's easier when I have to replace o-rings in the sink faucet.
What could I be doing wrong? In our home and the cottage (our b&b), every time I turn off a quarter turn, it leaks right at the handle. I do like turning them off. I am now very fearful. Thanks for watching and posting your thoughts. Kevin
I have only used quality 1/4 turn valves in our rentals for 15-20 years. Not one ever has leaked. All soldered in place. My sense is the quality of the valves is your problem, or the water has something it it ? I am not familiar with this style of handle, mine all have a tab , Brasscraft maybe?
In general, quarter turn valves are less likely to leak simply by having less moving parts. My guess is your water is contributing to the problem. Hard water or well water has more minerals can build up and damage seals causing the leaks.
I have nothing but Ball Valves (1/4 turn valves) in my house. I have not had any problems with packing leaking. I have had more problems with globe valves.
I've had some problems with my 1/4 turn valves. It could be that I'm not doing something right though. About the only time I find that I have a problem is whern I have to turn it off to service something...when I turn it back on, it leaks. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts. Hope to see you on the channel again. Thanks Kevin
By the time you need to replace a multi-turn valve, either you cannot turn it or the handle breaks. Can't you just replace the valve stem and leave the rest connected?
Thanks for watching Snickelp! And the advice. I just ordered a box for our shelf. When you need it you need it. The closest store is 1.5 hours away. Better safe than sorry. I hope you will visit the channel again soon. Kevin
We had a similar valve leak this summer. Turned out all the original plumber soldered all the valves on. Fortunately, I was able to fix the leak with a packing nut adjustment.
How do you solder a valve open Mr. Gluck? That's interesting for sure. These quarter turns don't have packing nuts...that a flaw for me... every time I close one then open it, it leaks... not the new ones but any one that has been on for a couple years. It's weird. I could be doing something wrong... Thanks for watching! Kevin
I could have put some tape on it but in all honesty, there were not any marks. Maybe I needed my glasses but I did not see any. How do I put it on without marks? Thankfully the valve is completely out of sight. Thanks for watching and commenting. I would love to learn a new method of putting them on. Kevin
I totally agree. Had an entire house of quarter turns that were all bad after about 12 years of service. Actually they all still worked for turning the water off but the home inspector told the buyer they all had to be replaced because they were covered in corrosion. I’ve had quarter turn handles come off in my hand after turning the valve with a wrench because it was so stuck and water came out all over the cabinet until I turned the main off. The other common problem is a handle that turns freely and doesn’t turn the water off at all because the stem broke inside. Finally, they seem to get stuck after about two or three years of not turning the handle after they’ve been installed. I am not saying a multi turn will last any longer (they’re all junk nowadays) but at least they can be rebuilt.
Thanks for the heads up iam just doing a new kitchen in my cabin and need to put in new shut offs will be looking for the valves with the packing nuts ......Thank you once again !!!!
Rubber gaskets always decay and fail but if you never go through an open/close cycle it may be years and years before you know it happened.
Good quality quarter turn valves don't fail often enough to be a concern.
Actually some quarter turn valve do have packing nuts, and someone multi turn don't. It just depends on the manufacturer, not the type of valve.
In general though quarter turn are much less likely to leak in the first place, and they also will work years after being installed, unlikely multiturn that have rubber that decays.
I have original multi-turns over 68 yrs old; replaced washers a couple times and added some fresh packing and still working OK.
Sorry Kevin, I can't agree with you on this one. We did a bathroom remodel about 12 years ago. Hot and cold water for the sink and water line for the toilet were replaced with 1/4 turn valves. No leaks. It's easier when I have to replace o-rings in the sink faucet.
What could I be doing wrong? In our home and the cottage (our b&b), every time I turn off a quarter turn, it leaks right at the handle. I do like turning them off. I am now very fearful. Thanks for watching and posting your thoughts. Kevin
I have only used quality 1/4 turn valves in our rentals for 15-20 years. Not one ever has leaked. All soldered in place.
My sense is the quality of the valves is your problem, or the water has something it it ?
I am not familiar with this style of handle, mine all have a tab , Brasscraft maybe?
@@als1023 Mine too. Different style then the one in the video.
Yes ,if you use a $ 3 dollar stop! Any plumbing fitting will fail.
Necer had a problem with quarter turn valves. Multi turn valves gets dirt in the packing seal and always leaks.
In general, quarter turn valves are less likely to leak simply by having less moving parts. My guess is your water is contributing to the problem. Hard water or well water has more minerals can build up and damage seals causing the leaks.
I have nothing but Ball Valves (1/4 turn valves) in my house. I have not had any problems with packing leaking. I have had more problems with globe valves.
I've had some problems with my 1/4 turn valves. It could be that I'm not doing something right though. About the only time I find that I have a problem is whern I have to turn it off to service something...when I turn it back on, it leaks. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts. Hope to see you on the channel again. Thanks Kevin
By the time you need to replace a multi-turn valve, either you cannot turn it or the handle breaks.
Can't you just replace the valve stem and leave the rest connected?
I was a plumber for 38 years now retired. Just change any of those valve you touch 1/4 turn or multi turn
Thanks for watching Snickelp! And the advice. I just ordered a box for our shelf. When you need it you need it. The closest store is 1.5 hours away. Better safe than sorry. I hope you will visit the channel again soon. Kevin
We had a similar valve leak this summer. Turned out all the original plumber soldered all the valves on. Fortunately, I was able to fix the leak with a packing nut adjustment.
How do you solder a valve open Mr. Gluck? That's interesting for sure. These quarter turns don't have packing nuts...that a flaw for me... every time I close one then open it, it leaks... not the new ones but any one that has been on for a couple years. It's weird. I could be doing something wrong... Thanks for watching! Kevin
What about all the scars you put on that shiny new valve with those caveman tools?
I could have put some tape on it but in all honesty, there were not any marks. Maybe I needed my glasses but I did not see any. How do I put it on without marks? Thankfully the valve is completely out of sight. Thanks for watching and commenting. I would love to learn a new method of putting them on. Kevin
I totally agree. Had an entire house of quarter turns that were all bad after about 12 years of service. Actually they all still worked for turning the water off but the home inspector told the buyer they all had to be replaced because they were covered in corrosion. I’ve had quarter turn handles come off in my hand after turning the valve with a wrench because it was so stuck and water came out all over the cabinet until I turned the main off. The other common problem is a handle that turns freely and doesn’t turn the water off at all because the stem broke inside. Finally, they seem to get stuck after about two or three years of not turning the handle after they’ve been installed. I am not saying a multi turn will last any longer (they’re all junk nowadays) but at least they can be rebuilt.
Spend a few bucks more and get Dahl Valves. Then are made in Canada 🇨🇦, not China 🇨🇳, and will last forever.
Some brands are better. Walmart is not one of them.