Public land hunters complaining about public land hunters hunting on public land while making a public podcast about public land hunting… pick a lane dude.
My thoughts exactly.....aren't they those guys that come from a different state doing the same to the other guys, while all being on public land?.........?
Right, hahaha. Keep doing pod casts of how to hunt public lands and keep encouraging people who shouldn't be allowed in the woods, let alone have a gun or bow that can kill an animal or person and watch them walk under you. I see it almost every year, and yes numerous time they walked right under me. It is what it is. Bonus facts, when you teach/preach about the biggest bucks are deep in the thickest, nastiest, farthest from people in the woods, guess what? There are already 5-10 deer stands hanging there, and the way you traveled to that deep spot without deer seeing you, there have been 10 other dudes that walked that same way because it was the best way to get there. Lol people on public land, WTF?
Even then.... I've gotten way back in Public land and have seen no one most of the time one or two other guys or one pair and that's it...over a handful of years...... Maybe it was my luck... and I have seen trucks parked. But I feel a lot of people don't get deep into a WMA... Seems like they go about 500+700 yards and setup.
Problem is TH-cam and facebook started to make hunting public land so glorified that everyone is trying it. I remember when you wouldn’t see a soul out on public.
I hear people say that nationwide, according to license sales, the amount of hunters have decreased over the years. What’s interesting to me is that since the social media boom has opened up so much info, I feel the complete opposite. Public land is seeing more pressure. Everyone online is a deer wizard these days and think that if they watch a couple months of TH-cam they can go kill giant deer on public land, and of course we all know if you aren’t hunting public land these days, any other type of success is below it. I’d like to believe that skillful hunters who have plenty of time can still kill big public land deer, but it doesn’t change the fact that more and more people are going deeper, doing the same things, hunting the same areas, mostly due to the info these online deer wizards are so openly sharing. Blame social media and the ones who sell their success to earn themselves a name.
Hearing from dads stories in the 90s squirell hunting seeing lots of mature bucks roaming around in public land before he got into deer hunting in 02. Most of these big mature bucks that these so claim called goats killed on public land were taken in the 70s-90s before the foreigner hunting diversity got into big game hunting tagging mature bucks. I've used their tactics, it works but it doesn't work all the time.. the more everyone's using it. You're educating deer faster.. The spot that youre in high hopes of chasing this mature buck. Hardcore public land fanboys are around hunting it... the mature buck goes nocturnal or hangs around elsewhere either on private or somewhere that you won't realize he's not there... Luck plays majority of the role in public land...
😢😢😢 poor guys .. i think ill stay home this year so they can have a chance..😂 Nothing like pulling into a parking lot ive hunted for 30 years and seeing 7 trucks from out of state.. im good if u dont come to MO… just sayin
Lived in and hunted Missouri for a long time, public lands during archery were never bad, fun was a different story. Over the counter Midwest state will keep pulling people in
First rule of hunt club, is you don't talk about hunt club. Everyone and their brother is campaigning and hyping everyone up to hunt public, then those same people wonder why their hunting experiences have gone to shit. Well, congratulations, you've turned Woodstock into Coachella.
dont let people walking under you make you think you wont get a deer. sometimes those very same people will push a deer right to you that you otherwise would not have had an opportunity with. so it can go either way. make the most out of it and enjoy your hunt i say.
They even have the best gear! Even with THAT other people hunt public land. Those other people are having fun, not trying to make money from it. YOU are the problem on public land not them. Unless you are special, then it’s ok. Are you special? And isn’t there a very successful group that does well on public land that we see? You know, the Hunting Public.
@@Bofum69exactly. For sale. It means it isn't free. Not to mention, hunting is regulated for a reason. Sadly more hunters just means paying more for licensing and tags, and also more restrictions, and more laws to make sure animals aren't over hunted in specific areas
It really comes down to respect for your follow hunter. Public land or not, don’t bust in one someone else’s hunt. I mostly hunt public land and I do my best not to ruin it for others.
In the Midwest there is so little access, you don't have a choice a lot of times. At least where I'm at in Iowa. That's why I kayak to where I need to go.
@@melvinbarnes6652 hey its not their fault you're hunting public land..... Private and public has both 100% fair chase wild deer. Managed private land is like playing for the best teams in the NFL and public land is like playing for the worst teams in the NFL.. its a big hit or miss youll tag a 5.5 and older... me I hunt both. I've tagged more mature bucks on private than public. It's still hard hunting in private ground too. It's not a cakewalk like what you see in tv or what people blab.... There's more odds in private than public thats a fact... whoevers telling you that there's as much odds or more in public over private is full of melted hersheys... there's so much that's going on in public land than private. Me personally I'd rather bowhunt private land over public. Id rather play for the best teams in the nfl and have high chances of winning superbowl rings rather than playing for the worst teams in the nfl struggling your way to win a superbowl ring.... That's me...
@@meateaterwhitetail7291 I don't follow. I agree the odds are better on private so I'm not sure where u are coming from with your comment. I hunt both and personally enjoy the challenges of public land which are way greater than private..
@@melvinbarnes6652 public land is fun. But I can't say it's better than hunting private. Theres more downsides than you think.... To me it's private first.. If I don't get access to private. Public land is my best route for now... my flaw is stick with where i get my bread and butter. Where I've taken the most mature age bucks that's 5.5 and older.. that's where I'll stick with.. its proof in the pudding... Steve grubers article once says why leave deer to find deer when it's all here...
Illinois is almost impossible to hunt public land. There is so little public land there to hunt I am almost surprised anyone out of state even tries. There aren’t that many people in state who really try. And all it would take is a small number to join the locals and no one is getting anything. Illinois has great hunting, but without a foot in the door of private land, you are going to pay for it. I grew up hunting west-central Illinois and so much of it is leased to city and suburban people now, it is ridiculous.
Just wait a min with all these public hunting videos…. I had same until today (opening day) haven’t seen a single person in YEARS. 3 different trucks this morning not sure how many in each one. On 20 flippin acres and 80 Degrees out. Can’t wait to see what ruts like. Your days are numbered and you’ll be just as upset when it happens to you
@@beez7753 i guess I said that wrong. Definitely no parking lots, but access points that most hunters use. I'm in the northern half of the lower peninsula. I'm sure you hunt hard and sometimes shit happens but I gotta say if you're in a spot that a dad and kid can get to then you're not hunting the right stuff. It needs to be hard to get to. Use a boat or hip boots. My best spots are literally were i can watch other.hunters get out of there vehicles and walk right past me or way back thru water.. Don't lose hope. There's some fantastic hunting in this state. Good luck this year!!
@@user-ux3ye8fu3v I’m 45 I’m not super old and have hunted public since 12. Obviously not until 16 religiously but you used to be able to flash a flashlight or wave and get attention during daylight and people would almost without saying sorry turn and go look for another spot. Everything was cool. Nowadays people will play laser tag back with the light walk right under your stand and cut you off by 50 yards in each direction of the bedding depending on if it’s night and they coming from bed or morning and going too. Those dudes far outnumber the people that turn and go the other way lately and now with this big public hunting hype it’s gonna be like that times god knows what. And around here there is no getting away from other hunters. If you walk back a mile, you better turn around, you’ve passed on to private property a LONG time ago 😂
Drives should definitely be legal, it pushes deer. Just because a group of hunters want to drive deer in one direction does not mean those deer are going to move in that direction. It could push deer towards you, drives move deer which is what you want.
This is Why I bought my own 160 acres in MN. Ye sits public and they have as much right as me, so instead of getting pissed I worked my ass off and bought my land literally 30 min from my home. I can Bow, Gun and MZ hunt and the best part is I’m surrounded by corn and Bean and alfalfa fields and the farmers don’t hunt except for one and there done by opening weekend of firearm season.
Bad experiences on public says more about the hunter than anything. And I’m truly not trying to throw shade. There are amazing opportunities out there. You gotta find that little difference that makes a public place good. And it’s not always just being in deep or using water to access, all those things that everyone does nowadays. It’s not easy. And it can take years of picking apart an area to find them!
Poor boys, welcome to public land hunting in Missouri, you talk of all the time and money you’ve got invested in your hunt , doesn’t hold a candle to the time and effort residents have put into these public areas. If you don’t like the crowds stay home and hunt your own state . Stop whining
I’ve been hunting spot in the mountains of PA for 20 years and have yet to see a person. You just have to be willing to pack your stuff and potentially an animal 3-5 miles
I hunt Kansas public and have since 1991. Nope we aren’t allowed to use game cameras or bait or even leave stands every where. We can’t he’s motorized vehicles. We hunt. I score every season I hunt sometime 3-4 deer in a season. You guys want them on a leash tied to a feeder.
First year bowhunter last year and had some success even though I was clueless and new. Never hunted too far from the lot due to time restrictions, and I can count on one hand the amount of times I saw another hunter even in November. This was Midwest public land that everyone told me was “pressured”. Quit crying, or find different access points and think outside the box.
I hunt public in central IL and yeah, it's awful. Took me 5 yrs before I was able to harvest a deer. I've literally been sitting in my stand and have had another "hunter" climb a tree 75 FEET from me. Inside a park with 7000 acres and the dip shit chooses a tree 75' from my position. What's more, he never checked to see if there was anyone in the area... AND ITS 7:30 ALREADY, WTF??!! Boy was he surprised when I decided to get down from my stand moments later... I thanked him for his defiling of my area and screwing up my hunt area in not so many kind words. On my way out I whistled as loud as I could all the way back to my truck... 🙄😡, and not a soft whistle. Pne like you hear at a baseball game. Not sure, but I think I got my point across. That was 6 years ago and I've not seen him since 😅.
I shot a 140 on public last year you just have to hunting harder and smarter then anyone else. Most of these guys can’t shoot a trophy if it’s not on an exclusive piece of manipulative deer movement private. Its deer farming not hunting in my opinion.
I find it’s not other deer hunters that ruin it. I’ve been hunting public in Wisconsin for a few years now and every year I have squirrel hunters just about shoot me while I’m in my trees but the other half is usually people hiking the hunting spots even tho I find the most secluded ones I can and it’s almost as if they know it’s hunting season and decide to hike these spots on purpose
Pressure isn’t always bad especially in big country there might not be anything around at all until it move through from pressure in other areas things are different here in the west a couple miles isn’t really nothing as in heavily wooded areas a couple miles is considered deep in
🤣😂 Ive hunted southern Illinois my whole life mostly public and usually kill a P&Y every year sometimes I’ll buck out by gun season. These guys are coming scouting pre season like it’s a piece of private ground.Being mobile on public is about 20% of the game the other 80% is woodsman ship and knowing where big deer go when pressure hits. I agree it’s hard and past 10 years in Illinois on public has been wild. If the DEM RUN STATE would actually put in good management practices and a limit on OTC tags Illinois would blow Iowa out of the water.
I haven’t watched all of their stuff yet but I have yet to even hear them mention hunting Illinois even though they live within an hour or so of the border. As a mention pulled from this specific video.
@@jkbigpthere is a lot of issues with IL public hunting. Not impossible but I live 15-40 minutes from several public areas and there are days I show up and people have their buddies signed before sign in time and I end up going home. That's just 1 problem
@@mikeguy9668 each designated area has a parking lot and there are only a certain amount of hunters allowed to access each area at a time. There is a sign in sheet and a parking pass in the lot. Guys will show up before 5 which is the legal sign in cut off and take all the parking passes and put their buddies name down
I know public spots in Iowa nobody bow hunts, literally nobody year after year. Not locals or non residents. In fact I’ve never seen a non resident bow hunting in my area. Public spots are out there that you could have to yourself, it just takes work.
Kansas 10 plus years ago was better than any hunting show I've ever watched....on public land. It's a shell of its former self. However thinking any property there is "busted" is foolish....those deer cover so much ground it's insane. Best way to hunt it is spot and stalk/spot and do Intel heavily, or just stay in the same spot, and wait when you're seeing deer. It's just a matter of time.
Spot and stalk doesnt work all the time... I'd prefer setting up treestands or ground blinds and wait.. from my experience it works if it's really windy.. but arrows don't fly too accurate when it's really windy.. almost arrowd a nice 3yr old wide rack buck on the ground. But where they bed on the open grass is brushy.. went around and my safety belt caribeaner his a metal on on of my belts and he busted out with a doe he was chasing earlier. Miss him due to high winds.. End of my hunt I ended up arrow a 5.5 yr old tall rack 9 early mid November..
@@RichieRich-pn3gg no just talented . he puts a lot and time and effort into his hunting . he finds deer where others are to lazy to go . excuse makers rarely put good time into their hunting.
I’m moving to the Midwest this year and I’m exited I’m going to take my hunters class and then hay ever I need to learn hopefully I have good experiences and meet nice people it’s been my dream to move to the Midwest for ever and to hunt too
You don’t need trail cameras, you don’t need food plots, you don’t need scent killer, you don’t even need to do any scouting. All you need is a little snow for tracking. Larry Benoit the best deer hunter to ever live killed big bucks every year walking around in the woods covered in green plaid, stinking like a goat, holding his pump gun on hand
One of my biggest takes from this..if you shoot a buck on public land be happy with a 6 point with a 14 spread that's a decent buck here in Michigan on public land..not everyone has to shoot a 150 class buck for it to be considered a trophy
The problem is to many people are sew happy... To many people that own private land have gotten taken to court and sewed so private land owners don't let people hunt. So that means all the people that can't find private land to hunt go to public land. They have no choice if they want to hunt.
Very true but you have to hunt public differently. You’re not finding where they like to feed the most or bed down, you’re looking everywhere a hunter wouldn’t and start from there
I live in a mid west state that is on everyone’s bucket list to hunt and leads the way by selling right around 40K out of state deer tags every single year. Do people really think that many out of state hunters have access to private land or can afford to hunt with an outfitter? Pardon my ignorance here but I am confused: hunters want to complain about how crappy hunting public land is but all they do is film themselves hunting on public land, then wonder why hunting public land is so crowded and difficult to hunt? I like to see everyone fill their tag but there is something wrong when I hunt public land I am completely out numbered and surrounded by out of state deer hunters. Just my 2 cents.
That's the challenge of hunting public. I hunt public in Illinois. You just have to find the right places... *hint* stay away from the two big sites that are in the southern portion where everyone from the south comes up to...
One, walk further in than Joe Shmo is willing to. Second, public big game hunting blows most places. Public bird hunting on the other hand has always treated me well.
It's public land. I expect other hunters, a lot of hunters. That's fine, totally understandable. My frustration in my area is on opening day, groups of 10-15 dudes putting on drives. Going from section to section. HEY, YEP YEP, HEY, C'MON DEER, LET'S GO DEER, YEP YEP, HEY, HEY, YEP YEP. Let people sit for the first weekend before you lock the deer down for the rest of the season!
Even worse is when you see dozens of out of hunters from out of state in Arizona because we have an already overused OTC archery deer season. Nothing like having guys from out of state hunting for content and not food and passion...
So your hunting with the best stuff (Probably didn’t buy it) moving is easy because you are so mobile. Is it dark when people walk through it? That doesn’t mean 2 hours later a buck wouldn’t come through right? You hunt your calls off! It is public land but those people you hunt with are probably putting the same time, money etc in, it’s public land! I can see how it’s frustrating but it’s a 2 way street!
So as somebody who's more into the spot and stalk hunting, is there anything I can do to avoid being an annoyance? I personally think it's silly to spend all that money on specialized gear just to hunt where you know damn well there's gonna be others, but hey, I'd like to avoid making that a waste lmao. And not for these kinda guys, they're fuckin annoying, I'm talking about the ones who don't say nothing and just come home disappointed, y'know?
Deer hunting heck hunting in general is becoming pay to play. And the majority of us can’t afford to buy/lease land and public land is tuff to hunt. But it is rewarding to get it one. By no means do I have it figured out but I have learned to hunt the hunters to shoot deer. I try to find the more secluded areas and get in extra early and stay longer and I like hunting the middle of the week when the pressure is lower due to most people working
We hunt alot of public land here in Indiana.. I usually walk at least 30 min from the parking lot to hunt... 80% of the hunters won't put in that much work
You guys that have out of state hunters busting up your public hunting grounds can blame your own state legislators. They could care less about the quality of your hunting. All they are concerned about is selling hunting licenses and out of state licenses bring the most money.
Love hunting public land. It definitely helps when you can check on the parking areas and kinda know where the majority of people are but to me that’s part of the challenge for sure. Scouting for deer and humans
It’s kind of sad seeing Hunter’s being sad about seeing other hunters? We need more hunters knotless the number of Hunter’s out there in the world is decreased significantly over the years
Same attitude as the finance bros “IDK why you’re not making $100k/ month. It’s fucking easy”. “Why bother hunt public land? It’s way easier to hunt on your dads 500 acre ranch”.
Hunting in the West is just as bad on public land. Hunting has really changed. Deer populations are way down in most states. Elk are staying on private lands and being killed on depredation tags. If you want to regularly hunt you need money.
I've hunted public in NE Mo for 15 years. Rarely run into anybody hunting. Maybe it's because it's a ton of work to even get to the stands. 200acres basically untouched besides the occasional bowhunter. Can't expect to go to a major conservation area and not see people. Big fan of flagging and writing info on the stand on when we're hunting.
I pack in the day before the opener, bring what I need for 4-5 days and I rarely see another person. If I do see someone they are usually pushing towards me so it doesn't affect my hunting.
Word of advice dont come to Illinois to hunt on Public. Hard core hunters who lives here knows this. You are wasting your time. Everyone goes on public here
😅 have to know how to hunt without cameras, food plots, bait, and private access, lol. You know, like real hunting. Maybe get a crossbow and do some real hunting #trolling
Yea and it’s TH-camrs fault for putting all this shit online. In 2018 and 2019 there was no one at the public land I hunted at. I seen one car the entire turkey season in 2019. Opening day Turkey season 2024 there was 15 vehicles on 1000 acres. So yea thanks a lot for putting it all on TH-cam for people to see.
Social media got it crowded sure but also people letting the cat out of the bag as to where they shot it. Happened on the public land near where I grew up in Texas. A fella shoots a 195” deer and causally tells the guys at the processor where he shot it…next thing you know it’s all over major newspapers in the area and the line to get a permit the next year was around the fuggin building twice haha where we used to be able to get a permit 2nd week of the season. Loose lips sink ships is a true statement
Public land hunters complaining about public land hunters hunting on public land while making a public podcast about public land hunting… pick a lane dude.
My thoughts exactly.....aren't they those guys that come from a different state doing the same to the other guys, while all being on public land?.........?
These guys are surprised the public is on public land.
These guys are 🤡
Right, hahaha.
Keep doing pod casts of how to hunt public lands and keep encouraging people who shouldn't be allowed in the woods, let alone have a gun or bow that can kill an animal or person and watch them walk under you. I see it almost every year, and yes numerous time they walked right under me. It is what it is.
Bonus facts, when you teach/preach about the biggest bucks are deep in the thickest, nastiest, farthest from people in the woods, guess what? There are already 5-10 deer stands hanging there, and the way you traveled to that deep spot without deer seeing you, there have been 10 other dudes that walked that same way because it was the best way to get there.
Lol people on public land, WTF?
"We have the best gear and planned a year ahead" ...LOL suck a fat one
Even then.... I've gotten way back in Public land and have seen no one most of the time one or two other guys or one pair and that's it...over a handful of years...... Maybe it was my luck... and I have seen trucks parked. But I feel a lot of people don't get deep into a WMA... Seems like they go about 500+700 yards and setup.
Same here.. I walk at least 30 min from parking lots and head for middle or far side of property..... hardly ever see other hunters
Problem is TH-cam and facebook started to make hunting public land so glorified that everyone is trying it. I remember when you wouldn’t see a soul out on public.
Bingo.
yep... thats a big 10-4.... Oklahoma has been ruined.....
Yeah dude. Internet ruined a lot of things.
Yep
@@gordonneverdies💯 especially hunting and fishing it’s all about growing the biggest deer and whoever has the deepest pocket can squeeze the trigger
Stay in PA. Problem solved
Well said
Amen
Amazing comment
It just as bad in PA people every year
hunting is pa is AWEFUL
Ya you should stop coming to the Midwest and stay home.
Amen
Yeah, stop enjoying the things I like. Only I should be able to do that.
I hear people say that nationwide, according to license sales, the amount of hunters have decreased over the years. What’s interesting to me is that since the social media boom has opened up so much info, I feel the complete opposite. Public land is seeing more pressure. Everyone online is a deer wizard these days and think that if they watch a couple months of TH-cam they can go kill giant deer on public land, and of course we all know if you aren’t hunting public land these days, any other type of success is below it. I’d like to believe that skillful hunters who have plenty of time can still kill big public land deer, but it doesn’t change the fact that more and more people are going deeper, doing the same things, hunting the same areas, mostly due to the info these online deer wizards are so openly sharing. Blame social media and the ones who sell their success to earn themselves a name.
Hearing from dads stories in the 90s squirell hunting seeing lots of mature bucks roaming around in public land before he got into deer hunting in 02. Most of these big mature bucks that these so claim called goats killed on public land were taken in the 70s-90s before the foreigner hunting diversity got into big game hunting tagging mature bucks. I've used their tactics, it works but it doesn't work all the time.. the more everyone's using it. You're educating deer faster.. The spot that youre in high hopes of chasing this mature buck. Hardcore public land fanboys are around hunting it... the mature buck goes nocturnal or hangs around elsewhere either on private or somewhere that you won't realize he's not there... Luck plays majority of the role in public land...
😢😢😢 poor guys .. i think ill stay home this year so they can have a chance..😂
Nothing like pulling into a parking lot ive hunted for 30 years and seeing 7 trucks from out of state.. im good if u dont come to MO… just sayin
I’m with you bud, too many people in my home state hunting hiking and buying all the land.
My thought exactly
Lived in and hunted Missouri for a long time, public lands during archery were never bad, fun was a different story. Over the counter Midwest state will keep pulling people in
Don’t be one of those people who go in anyway if there’s 7 vehicles already in there!
@reddawng43x91 i agree, i dont go in when its like that simply for respect and safety
First rule of hunt club, is you don't talk about hunt club. Everyone and their brother is campaigning and hyping everyone up to hunt public, then those same people wonder why their hunting experiences have gone to shit. Well, congratulations, you've turned Woodstock into Coachella.
dont let people walking under you make you think you wont get a deer. sometimes those very same people will push a deer right to you that you otherwise would not have had an opportunity with. so it can go either way.
make the most out of it and enjoy your hunt i say.
Free deer drive, i like people up and moving. Sit tight and you shall be rewarded :)
Beat advice I ever got that came from a DNR officer, was to hike 2 miles in. Most public hunters go within a mile
prob less lol
Yep
Not true anymore since everyone has reliable GPS on their phones. I am starting to see more deer very close to roads.
Do what Cam Hanes does like 15 miles
They even have the best gear! Even with THAT other people hunt public land. Those other people are having fun, not trying to make money from it. YOU are the problem on public land not them. Unless you are special, then it’s ok. Are you special? And isn’t there a very successful group that does well on public land that we see? You know, the Hunting Public.
That’s why we need to fight for moreee public land. Increase opportunity for the increasing amount of hunters
And how she would create this new land? Take it from landowners?
@@Havel_LordBeartake what? There is 1000s of properties for sale.
@@Bofum69exactly. For sale. It means it isn't free.
Not to mention, hunting is regulated for a reason.
Sadly more hunters just means paying more for licensing and tags, and also more restrictions, and more laws to make sure animals aren't over hunted in specific areas
Well they could use the revenuw from tags and license to buy more land and about over hunting arnt deer populations at an all time high
@@juice6199 exactly. For sale. They do have a budget you know that allows them to buy land. They do it every year. It’s nothing new.
It really comes down to respect for your follow hunter. Public land or not, don’t bust in one someone else’s hunt. I mostly hunt public land and I do my best not to ruin it for others.
In the Midwest there is so little access, you don't have a choice a lot of times. At least where I'm at in Iowa. That's why I kayak to where I need to go.
I'm gonna hunt public land for the first time is there any certain rules to avoid people like how do you not get in eachothers way?
@@shaynekatchmark810Flashlight, or Whistle.
Cry babies 😂
LOL....yeah, the realities of public land can be surprising to folks spoiled by private land.
@@melvinbarnes6652 hey its not their fault you're hunting public land..... Private and public has both 100% fair chase wild deer. Managed private land is like playing for the best teams in the NFL and public land is like playing for the worst teams in the NFL.. its a big hit or miss youll tag a 5.5 and older... me I hunt both. I've tagged more mature bucks on private than public. It's still hard hunting in private ground too. It's not a cakewalk like what you see in tv or what people blab.... There's more odds in private than public thats a fact... whoevers telling you that there's as much odds or more in public over private is full of melted hersheys... there's so much that's going on in public land than private.
Me personally I'd rather bowhunt private land over public. Id rather play for the best teams in the nfl and have high chances of winning superbowl rings rather than playing for the worst teams in the nfl struggling your way to win a superbowl ring.... That's me...
@@meateaterwhitetail7291 I don't follow. I agree the odds are better on private so I'm not sure where u are coming from with your comment. I hunt both and personally enjoy the challenges of public land which are way greater than private..
@@melvinbarnes6652 public land is fun. But I can't say it's better than hunting private. Theres more downsides than you think.... To me it's private first.. If I don't get access to private. Public land is my best route for now... my flaw is stick with where i get my bread and butter. Where I've taken the most mature age bucks that's 5.5 and older.. that's where I'll stick with.. its proof in the pudding... Steve grubers article once says why leave deer to find deer when it's all here...
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Illinois is almost impossible to hunt public land. There is so little public land there to hunt I am almost surprised anyone out of state even tries. There aren’t that many people in state who really try. And all it would take is a small number to join the locals and no one is getting anything. Illinois has great hunting, but without a foot in the door of private land, you are going to pay for it. I grew up hunting west-central Illinois and so much of it is leased to city and suburban people now, it is ridiculous.
Podcasters like this and guys like Hunting Public are the reason why public land sucks. They blow up good spots ALL the time.
Hahaha right, just like Lois Einhorn was a female
@@HUNTRPOD you welcomed and enabled an Ohio poacher on your show. Goof on my name all you want but you guys suck.
Some of the best hunting i have is on public..... in Michigan... on pieces other hunters say are junk. You just gotta know what youre doing
Where in mi
Just wait a min with all these public hunting videos…. I had same until today (opening day) haven’t seen a single person in YEARS. 3 different trucks this morning not sure how many in each one. On 20 flippin acres and 80 Degrees out. Can’t wait to see what ruts like. Your days are numbered and you’ll be just as upset when it happens to you
@@beez7753 there are almost always other people at parking lot. Its part of hunting public. The only problem is if you see it as a bad thing.
@@beez7753 i guess I said that wrong. Definitely no parking lots, but access points that most hunters use. I'm in the northern half of the lower peninsula. I'm sure you hunt hard and sometimes shit happens but I gotta say if you're in a spot that a dad and kid can get to then you're not hunting the right stuff. It needs to be hard to get to. Use a boat or hip boots. My best spots are literally were i can watch other.hunters get out of there vehicles and walk right past me or way back thru water.. Don't lose hope. There's some fantastic hunting in this state. Good luck this year!!
@@user-ux3ye8fu3v I’m 45 I’m not super old and have hunted public since 12. Obviously not until 16 religiously but you used to be able to flash a flashlight or wave and get attention during daylight and people would almost without saying sorry turn and go look for another spot. Everything was cool. Nowadays people will play laser tag back with the light walk right under your stand and cut you off by 50 yards in each direction of the bedding depending on if it’s night and they coming from bed or morning and going too. Those dudes far outnumber the people that turn and go the other way lately and now with this big public hunting hype it’s gonna be like that times god knows what. And around here there is no getting away from other hunters. If you walk back a mile, you better turn around, you’ve passed on to private property a LONG time ago 😂
Drives/pushes should not be legal on public land. It's legal in MN and destroys areas for people that otherwise have no other places to hunt.
Cry about, they pay taxes just like everyone else it’s called PUBLIC land for a reason 🤦
@@remingtonwendt7756it’s not even hunting
Drives should definitely be legal, it pushes deer. Just because a group of hunters want to drive deer in one direction does not mean those deer are going to move in that direction. It could push deer towards you, drives move deer which is what you want.
This is Why I bought my own 160 acres in MN. Ye sits public and they have as much right as me, so instead of getting pissed I worked my ass off and bought my land literally 30 min from my home. I can Bow, Gun and MZ hunt and the best part is I’m surrounded by corn and Bean and alfalfa fields and the farmers don’t hunt except for one and there done by opening weekend of firearm season.
You not the only ones putting in the work.
It’s public land… you can’t put all your eggs in one basket.
Bad experiences on public says more about the hunter than anything. And I’m truly not trying to throw shade. There are amazing opportunities out there. You gotta find that little difference that makes a public place good. And it’s not always just being in deep or using water to access, all those things that everyone does nowadays. It’s not easy. And it can take years of picking apart an area to find them!
Poor boys, welcome to public land hunting in Missouri, you talk of all the time and money you’ve got invested in your hunt , doesn’t hold a candle to the time and effort residents have put into these public areas. If you don’t like the crowds stay home and hunt your own state . Stop whining
Amen.
I’ve been hunting spot in the mountains of PA for 20 years and have yet to see a person. You just have to be willing to pack your stuff and potentially an animal 3-5 miles
I hunt Kansas public and have since 1991. Nope we aren’t allowed to use game cameras or bait or even leave stands every where. We can’t he’s motorized vehicles. We hunt. I score every season I hunt sometime 3-4 deer in a season. You guys want them on a leash tied to a feeder.
I like how guys with big biceps have more then the average amount of arm movements during convos 😂 💪
No more trail cams in Kansas
Thank god
Drones next!! As long as you have a permit (they say) you can act like your looking for a shot deer and scan the entire area.
Bad experience??? Sound like a bunch of whiners...... try hunting public in NC
Lol hunting hard must have a different definition then it does here in mass prob like nc …. Besides Michigan I don’t think many have it as tough as us
Yea or south Louisiana 😂
If you do wanna travel to hunt get tags to hunt invasive species.
Like what/where? Can you elaborate?
First year bowhunter last year and had some success even though I was clueless and new. Never hunted too far from the lot due to time restrictions, and I can count on one hand the amount of times I saw another hunter even in November. This was Midwest public land that everyone told me was “pressured”. Quit crying, or find different access points and think outside the box.
I hunt public in central IL and yeah, it's awful. Took me 5 yrs before I was able to harvest a deer. I've literally been sitting in my stand and have had another "hunter" climb a tree 75 FEET from me. Inside a park with 7000 acres and the dip shit chooses a tree 75' from my position. What's more, he never checked to see if there was anyone in the area... AND ITS 7:30 ALREADY, WTF??!! Boy was he surprised when I decided to get down from my stand moments later... I thanked him for his defiling of my area and screwing up my hunt area in not so many kind words.
On my way out I whistled as loud as I could all the way back to my truck... 🙄😡, and not a soft whistle. Pne like you hear at a baseball game. Not sure, but I think I got my point across. That was 6 years ago and I've not seen him since 😅.
This felt like someone from my town was giving me fireside advice. Well done, sir.
I shot a 140 on public last year you just have to hunting harder and smarter then anyone else. Most of these guys can’t shoot a trophy if it’s not on an exclusive piece of manipulative deer movement private. Its deer farming not hunting in my opinion.
I find it’s not other deer hunters that ruin it. I’ve been hunting public in Wisconsin for a few years now and every year I have squirrel hunters just about shoot me while I’m in my trees but the other half is usually people hiking the hunting spots even tho I find the most secluded ones I can and it’s almost as if they know it’s hunting season and decide to hike these spots on purpose
Pressure isn’t always bad especially in big country there might not be anything around at all until it move through from pressure in other areas things are different here in the west a couple miles isn’t really nothing as in heavily wooded areas a couple miles is considered deep in
🤣😂 Ive hunted southern Illinois my whole life mostly public and usually kill a P&Y every year sometimes I’ll buck out by gun season. These guys are coming scouting pre season like it’s a piece of private ground.Being mobile on public is about 20% of the game the other 80% is woodsman ship and knowing where big deer go when pressure hits. I agree it’s hard and past 10 years in Illinois on public has been wild. If the DEM RUN STATE would actually put in good management practices and a limit on OTC tags Illinois would blow Iowa out of the water.
Dude, this makes me so grateful I live in Nowhere, Idaho.
Public land deer are not as spooked by human sent or sounds as you might expect. Let the intrusion pass and stay focused
I see that MIGUEL’S bottle!!! Nothing better than a pizza and a shower after a long day of hiking!
Helll yes! Miguel’s is the best
What about going on a random Tuesday or Wednesday morning if that’s all they’re worried about?
Ohio public land is getting ruined by out of staters im just saying deer population is down bad for sure mature buck s
U guys need to watch more THP vids , you'll learn something 😅
I haven’t watched all of their stuff yet but I have yet to even hear them mention hunting Illinois even though they live within an hour or so of the border. As a mention pulled from this specific video.
@@ryantrone4140 Illinois is expensive for non residents.
@@jkbigpthere is a lot of issues with IL public hunting. Not impossible but I live 15-40 minutes from several public areas and there are days I show up and people have their buddies signed before sign in time and I end up going home. That's just 1 problem
@@ChavsADVwhat do you mean by sign up time? You have to sign up to hunt public there?
@@mikeguy9668 each designated area has a parking lot and there are only a certain amount of hunters allowed to access each area at a time. There is a sign in sheet and a parking pass in the lot. Guys will show up before 5 which is the legal sign in cut off and take all the parking passes and put their buddies name down
Yeah dude it’s crazy that you see the public on public land
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They are trying to figure out why their hunts don’t look like everybody else’s public land hunts 😂
Public land has been awesome. Stay as far away from big cities as possible.
I know public spots in Iowa nobody bow hunts, literally nobody year after year. Not locals or non residents. In fact I’ve never seen a non resident bow hunting in my area. Public spots are out there that you could have to yourself, it just takes work.
Kansas 10 plus years ago was better than any hunting show I've ever watched....on public land. It's a shell of its former self. However thinking any property there is "busted" is foolish....those deer cover so much ground it's insane. Best way to hunt it is spot and stalk/spot and do Intel heavily, or just stay in the same spot, and wait when you're seeing deer. It's just a matter of time.
Yea man I love that state. I feel like you are always in the game out there
Spot and stalk doesnt work all the time... I'd prefer setting up treestands or ground blinds and wait.. from my experience it works if it's really windy.. but arrows don't fly too accurate when it's really windy.. almost arrowd a nice 3yr old wide rack buck on the ground. But where they bed on the open grass is brushy.. went around and my safety belt caribeaner his a metal on on of my belts and he busted out with a doe he was chasing earlier. Miss him due to high winds.. End of my hunt I ended up arrow a 5.5 yr old tall rack 9 early mid November..
Can't hunt what's not there.. KS population is way down
Between that and Crossbows hope you guys can keep it together
my nephew hunts illinois public lands , and has killed six top notch bucks in three years.
greedy nephew
@@RichieRich-pn3gg no just talented . he puts a lot and time and effort into his hunting . he finds deer where others are to lazy to go . excuse makers rarely put good time into their hunting.
What part of PA you voys from?
Illinois Public Land SUCKS
I’m moving to the Midwest this year and I’m exited I’m going to take my hunters class and then hay ever I need to learn hopefully I have good experiences and meet nice people it’s been my dream to move to the Midwest for ever and to hunt too
LMFAOOOO “it’s terrible” he says… better then a day at work, find a new Hobbie boys!
You don’t need trail cameras, you don’t need food plots, you don’t need scent killer, you don’t even need to do any scouting. All you need is a little snow for tracking. Larry Benoit the best deer hunter to ever live killed big bucks every year walking around in the woods covered in green plaid, stinking like a goat, holding his pump gun on hand
Yeah I see deer every time I'm out hiking in Minnesota 😂
These out-of-state city people are always clueless about nature lol
One of my biggest takes from this..if you shoot a buck on public land be happy with a 6 point with a 14 spread that's a decent buck here in Michigan on public land..not everyone has to shoot a 150 class buck for it to be considered a trophy
The problem is to many people are sew happy... To many people that own private land have gotten taken to court and sewed so private land owners don't let people hunt. So that means all the people that can't find private land to hunt go to public land. They have no choice if they want to hunt.
Very true but you have to hunt public differently. You’re not finding where they like to feed the most or bed down, you’re looking everywhere a hunter wouldn’t and start from there
You know this can happen going in. I’m surprised more people aren’t shot on public land
Agree
Do you guys hear that???? I thinks it's the world's smallest violin 😂
Dan Infalt says hunt where you see hunters. Why did public land hunting blow up?
I live in a mid west state that is on everyone’s bucket list to hunt and leads the way by selling right around 40K out of state deer tags every single year. Do people really think that many out of state hunters have access to private land or can afford to hunt with an outfitter? Pardon my ignorance here but I am confused: hunters want to complain about how crappy hunting public land is but all they do is film themselves hunting on public land, then wonder why hunting public land is so crowded and difficult to hunt? I like to see everyone fill their tag but there is something wrong when I hunt public land I am completely out numbered and surrounded by out of state deer hunters. Just my 2 cents.
That's the challenge of hunting public. I hunt public in Illinois. You just have to find the right places... *hint* stay away from the two big sites that are in the southern portion where everyone from the south comes up to...
One, walk further in than Joe Shmo is willing to. Second, public big game hunting blows most places. Public bird hunting on the other hand has always treated me well.
It's public land. I expect other hunters, a lot of hunters. That's fine, totally understandable. My frustration in my area is on opening day, groups of 10-15 dudes putting on drives. Going from section to section.
HEY, YEP YEP, HEY, C'MON DEER, LET'S GO DEER, YEP YEP, HEY, HEY, YEP YEP.
Let people sit for the first weekend before you lock the deer down for the rest of the season!
Drives are for bums and drunks. Ban this ritual.
Even worse is when you see dozens of out of hunters from out of state in Arizona because we have an already overused OTC archery deer season. Nothing like having guys from out of state hunting for content and not food and passion...
I hunt a lot of public it's got it's ups and downs my biggest buck to date comes from public 154 8 point not huge but I'm happy
Hunter etiquette was already on its last limbs but died in 2020 with all the new hunters that came out without learning anything about the sport.
Not a whole lot of public ground and the private ground is gettung sucked up by market hunters.
So your hunting with the best stuff (Probably didn’t buy it) moving is easy because you are so mobile. Is it dark when people walk through it? That doesn’t mean 2 hours later a buck wouldn’t come through right? You hunt your calls off! It is public land but those people you hunt with are probably putting the same time, money etc in, it’s public land! I can see how it’s frustrating but it’s a 2 way street!
Entitlement encapsulated in one clip
So as somebody who's more into the spot and stalk hunting, is there anything I can do to avoid being an annoyance? I personally think it's silly to spend all that money on specialized gear just to hunt where you know damn well there's gonna be others, but hey, I'd like to avoid making that a waste lmao. And not for these kinda guys, they're fuckin annoying, I'm talking about the ones who don't say nothing and just come home disappointed, y'know?
Deer hunting heck hunting in general is becoming pay to play. And the majority of us can’t afford to buy/lease land and public land is tuff to hunt. But it is rewarding to get it one. By no means do I have it figured out but I have learned to hunt the hunters to shoot deer. I try to find the more secluded areas and get in extra early and stay longer and I like hunting the middle of the week when the pressure is lower due to most people working
I live in Illinois hunt public ground all the time I have no problem what are you expecting?
We hunt alot of public land here in Indiana.. I usually walk at least 30 min from the parking lot to hunt... 80% of the hunters won't put in that much work
I killed a nice buck this year and I and my buddy's drive our mule right up in front of the nearest trail cam on the way out of the woods . 💯 🦌
Wow I’ve never heard a worse argument. The problem with public land, is that it’s public??!?
You guys that have out of state hunters busting up your public hunting grounds can blame your own state legislators. They could care less about the quality of your hunting. All they are concerned about is selling hunting licenses and out of state licenses bring the most money.
Go farther in walk in a couple hrs. Out hunt and out walk everyone else and it is awesome!!
Love hunting public land. It definitely helps when you can check on the parking areas and kinda know where the majority of people are but to me that’s part of the challenge for sure. Scouting for deer and humans
It’s kind of sad seeing Hunter’s being sad about seeing other hunters? We need more hunters knotless the number of Hunter’s out there in the world is decreased significantly over the years
You can thank antler restrictions
Same attitude as the finance bros “IDK why you’re not making $100k/ month. It’s fucking easy”.
“Why bother hunt public land? It’s way easier to hunt on your dads 500 acre ranch”.
Aww poor babies
Hunting in the West is just as bad on public land. Hunting has really changed. Deer populations are way down in most states. Elk are staying on private lands and being killed on depredation tags. If you want to regularly hunt you need money.
Southeastern MO has thousands of public land acres. Good luck finding a spot that doesn’t get drove through or hunted with dogs illegally.
Yep I’ve hunted it, you would think with so much space you would have room…not so much
I've hunted public in NE Mo for 15 years. Rarely run into anybody hunting. Maybe it's because it's a ton of work to even get to the stands. 200acres basically untouched besides the occasional bowhunter. Can't expect to go to a major conservation area and not see people. Big fan of flagging and writing info on the stand on when we're hunting.
Ya hafta go deep, on public land. If it's easy access, then it'll be popular.
You arent getting back far enough if that happens.
I pack in the day before the opener, bring what I need for 4-5 days and I rarely see another person. If I do see someone they are usually pushing towards me so it doesn't affect my hunting.
Am I supposed to feel sorry for you? Welcome to the reality that the majority of hunters live in every year.
Word of advice dont come to Illinois to hunt on Public. Hard core hunters who lives here knows this. You are wasting your time. Everyone goes on public here
Come to south east michigan lmao!
It's government land not public land. They temporarily allow you to hunt there.
Poor babys.. welcome to what the rest of us gotta do ya rich city boys
Yankee’s on public land😂😂😂😂
More corn needed
😅 have to know how to hunt without cameras, food plots, bait, and private access, lol. You know, like real hunting. Maybe get a crossbow and do some real hunting
#trolling
i mean they trying to claim public land spot for themself, i think its not too much to ask i guess ? LOL crazy stuff
Yea and it’s TH-camrs fault for putting all this shit online. In 2018 and 2019 there was no one at the public land I hunted at. I seen one car the entire turkey season in 2019. Opening day Turkey season 2024 there was 15 vehicles on 1000 acres. So yea thanks a lot for putting it all on TH-cam for people to see.
Social media got it crowded sure but also people letting the cat out of the bag as to where they shot it. Happened on the public land near where I grew up in Texas. A fella shoots a 195” deer and causally tells the guys at the processor where he shot it…next thing you know it’s all over major newspapers in the area and the line to get a permit the next year was around the fuggin building twice haha where we used to be able to get a permit 2nd week of the season. Loose lips sink ships is a true statement