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  • @TolarianCommunityCollege
    @TolarianCommunityCollege  2 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    I'm launching a Kickstarter for 'The Academic' a deck box of my design and to be made by Gamegenic and you can follow the campaign here: www.kickstarter.com/projects/tolarian/the-academic-133-xl

    • @CarterCat60
      @CarterCat60 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was watching the video and I never really knew a lot about sensei’s divining top!

    • @Greg501-
      @Greg501- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They made a commander deck that cares about equipment but didn't put in Greaves or Boots? Equip 0 is one of the key ways for this commander to modify the tokens it makes, give them a counter so they stay modified, then equip other thing to keep distributing counters.

    • @missa6214
      @missa6214 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pp

    • @missa6214
      @missa6214 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pp

    • @thePrinceofFrogs
      @thePrinceofFrogs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I didn't realize there was a kickstarter for a new deckbox 😞 especially if it's been designed by the Professor then it's gonna be awesome.
      Any chance of a late backer option? I would love to get that signed package since it looks like there was 2 left at the end.

  • @Madlittlepixel
    @Madlittlepixel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +304

    I really look forward to these videos. No fluff every second of these videos provides value and is much appreciated!!

    • @jasonkorf7700
      @jasonkorf7700 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are still far lower than the average Commander Precons. Before 2018 they would put things like Grave Titan, Wurmcoil Engine, Mirari's Wake, and other at the time expensive reprints into the Precons. Now, they won't but they typically find solid niche cards that need reprints and put them in the Precons.
      Then came the 2018, which banked on the value coming from the new cards and it was a flop. Granted some of those cards are now somewhat expensive, but that also because Wizards won't reprint them so there's a limited number of them.
      Why Prof is going into value is because at various point the Commander Precon use to be cheaper, and the whole justification for raising the price was because they would put more value into the decks.

  • @gypsieking3280
    @gypsieking3280 2 ปีที่แล้ว +523

    Its unfortunate that the 20 dollar decks were erased so quickly. They were great value.

    • @nothing4mepls973
      @nothing4mepls973 2 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      You just know some ****** bean counter popped a gasket at that when he learned customers were actually getting value.

    • @gypsieking3280
      @gypsieking3280 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@nothing4mepls973 right? They accidentally watched this or the command zone and went full throttle Montgomery Burns on the whole op

    • @DefconLives
      @DefconLives 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Funnily enough, Elven Empire remains one of the best out-of-the-box decks in YEARS. I mean, it's hard to make a bad Elf deck given how busted the tribe is but whoever made that deck didn't try to screw the product deliberately

    • @ambientlight3876
      @ambientlight3876 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I really wish they produced more of the inexpensive commander decks. They really reduced the barriers for newer players.

    • @TheMartinSan
      @TheMartinSan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      As someone who only keeps maybe 20-40 cards from any precon and replaces the rest, the 20 dollar decks were awesome.

  • @magnusberge
    @magnusberge 2 ปีที่แล้ว +772

    I REALLY like the proxy commanders over the oversized ones, cuz now i can use the proxy as the commander and i can sometimes put the original commander card in a another deck inside the 99

    • @MrDeathbydying
      @MrDeathbydying 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      I agree, they're way more practical than the oversized foils

    • @Fleewood52
      @Fleewood52 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Yeah I really don’t see the point of oversized cards

    • @sailordaigurren8225
      @sailordaigurren8225 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      What do you do if the card is somehow bounced into you deck, though?

    • @billable1861
      @billable1861 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@sailordaigurren8225 can’t happen anymore unless you physically choose it to and most commanders have no reasonable scenario for that.

    • @bobbycorwen
      @bobbycorwen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      exactly !

  • @WT6X
    @WT6X 2 ปีที่แล้ว +171

    Is it worth it to watch the professor?
    Yes, yes it is. I give him an A+, a must watch.

    • @Srcsqwrn
      @Srcsqwrn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't even play MTG anymore and I still watch him. Good information and entertaining

    • @WT6X
      @WT6X 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Srcsqwrn neither do I, but I feel like what The Professor says needs to be heard. I wish he existed when I was buying Magic, maybe then I'd still be playing.

    • @Srcsqwrn
      @Srcsqwrn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@WT6X Absolutely. I feel like what the professor does is cut through the BS and tells you how things are from a consumer perspective which is NEEDED with how strong the capitalist structure works for MTG.

    • @steveirwinismydaddy4216
      @steveirwinismydaddy4216 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I remember watching him when he first started and was still teaching, it wasn't too long after I started playing and got super interested in it, with his help to spike the interest even more

    • @unanon_user
      @unanon_user หลายเดือนก่อน

      The professor isn't always correct, but does offer a good enough job by offering consistency and high quality with each new video. Dare I say, these videos even give you an idea of what to expect. maybe his opinions are or are not adequate enough, but at least you're going to get a decent idea of where all things Commander are at.

  • @LadyBernkastel92
    @LadyBernkastel92 2 ปีที่แล้ว +278

    Man if only there were some really expensive equipment cards that needed reprints that would synergize really well with a modified matters comander. Like if there were a, I dunno, cycle of swords that maybe had two effects that made them super strong? Shame nothing like that exists.

    • @iudexumbra609
      @iudexumbra609 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Or even blood-forged battle-axe, which would be great for the go-wide part. Or a new one you could show bounce for value, which has been, RARELY, a red thing to do.
      Sadness.

    • @zztzgza
      @zztzgza 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Hahaha why would they do that when people literally showed wotc that they'd pay $100 for VIP boosters with Double Masters.

    • @jamesgratz4771
      @jamesgratz4771 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zztzgza the whales 🐋

    • @jamesgratz4771
      @jamesgratz4771 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      They literally took out the swords from Gavin’s deck in the secret lair

    • @kendelia9609
      @kendelia9609 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah but if you fill it up with swords there's no room left for 30 basic lands.
      These decks run more basics than the mono colored precons

  • @RhysticStudies
    @RhysticStudies 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    something about seeing Rampant Growth at 7:02 rolling directly into Sakura-Tribe Elder, with your playmat in the background, really did it for me.

  • @vasylpark2149
    @vasylpark2149 2 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    I remember when commander was only a yearly product, and I was excited for the next cards now I couldn't care less. We still don't have reprints for many cards that are over $50. I what a yearly commander legends that reprints much needed cards.

    • @simopen
      @simopen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      and the single-plane commander releases are sad! I loved being surprised by seeing what would be included and referenced.

    • @ChickenMcThiccken
      @ChickenMcThiccken 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      because commander is crap. its only for casual play. when will people realize this! none of the cards are tournament legal; if they have that commander symbol on them. the only reason some of those commander cards are high priced; is becuase people still buy the commander product. once that stops. the commander variants will tank in price. just watch.

    • @alicekjer6676
      @alicekjer6676 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@ChickenMcThiccken Ignoring the fact that they are legal in vintage and legacy, they hold value because commander is fun for most players. Not everything has to be competitive to be valuable.

    • @kylegonewild
      @kylegonewild 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@alicekjer6676 Right? If Wizards wanted people to play 60 card competitive they'd reprint the damn landbases in meaningful quantity. It's the #1 thing keeping people out of several formats. Commander is the game in social mode for a reason, the politics and unexpected plays in Commander is vastly different to netdecking modern and playing 1v1.

    • @FaithlessLooter
      @FaithlessLooter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@ChickenMcThiccken You’re completely false in saying the cards aren’t tournament legal. As long as it’s a reprint of a card legal in whatever format it can be played. Who actually told this? Also not everything is about competitive, it’s a game (you know, meant for fun). Shit some of my funnest games were playing kitchen table with 100+ card decks that had questionable strats.

  • @ericmiltner3604
    @ericmiltner3604 2 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Agreed. Smothering Tithe would have been a good reprint. Just including a reprint of Vedalken Orrery with Buckle Up would have made it worth.

    • @ChickenMcThiccken
      @ChickenMcThiccken 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      even with a reprint. the price of smothering tithe would go down by like a dollar at best.

    • @3lderGoos3
      @3lderGoos3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Smothering Tithe is really unfun to play against so I think WOTC is trying to sweep it under the rug and will never reprint it. At least that's what I'm hoping, in sitting on a small fortune of them.

    • @3lderGoos3
      @3lderGoos3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@snackplaylove it's been my best Modern investment to date. I got absolutely spanked by that Augustine III

  • @zackfro
    @zackfro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The greatest villains and the greatest heroes in magic videos are phenomenal. Thank you! Please keep making videos along these veins. There are dozens of us that love them, DOZENS!!!

  • @TheReqyem
    @TheReqyem 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    I was so bummed out that there was not a talisman of progress again in this deck.

    • @matthewmcmillion9094
      @matthewmcmillion9094 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ahahahahaha, “bummed out”, I’ve given up hope ever seeing a much needed reprint in these money grabber… I mean precons.

    • @Insharai
      @Insharai 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      just looked at the price on that one comparitively before this vid and damn

  • @tresnalder2149
    @tresnalder2149 2 ปีที่แล้ว +196

    Wizards definitely could be a little more generous with reprints (i.e. pain lands, talismans). I am planning on getting UW because I think the play value comes from the new cards. Even though, I think the new white removal spell is way overrated.

    • @wukevin4027
      @wukevin4027 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      it's mostly hyped as a combo piece instead of a removal spell. I for one think the T3 infinite mana combo with devoted druid is pretty busted...

    • @tresnalder2149
      @tresnalder2149 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@wukevin4027 Oh, that makes sense. I can also see it as good protection for a lot of creatures that don't need to attack. I would be happy if someone turned my Tovolar into a vehicle with it.

    • @rejected1s
      @rejected1s 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      My god the painlands. Does anyone know why they're so hesitant to reprint the ally cycle in any capacity, whereas the enemy cycle gets to be some of the cheapest rare duals on the market?

    • @jamesgratz4771
      @jamesgratz4771 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@rejected1s honestly wizards is trash at reprints . At this point I just proxy anything that isn’t reprinted because it’s just not worth the prices

    • @TehSeksyManz
      @TehSeksyManz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rejected1s I cannot comprehend why they haven't reprinted those yet. Truly, mind boggling.

  • @CHEFPKR
    @CHEFPKR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    My heart is telling me no... But my body, my body is telling me yesssss

    • @ChickenMcThiccken
      @ChickenMcThiccken 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      my brain is telling me no. why waste money on commander cards? please explain?

    • @leandroP2323
      @leandroP2323 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the money is better spent buying an older commander deck or just buying the singles.

    • @ChickenMcThiccken
      @ChickenMcThiccken 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@leandroP2323 NO COMMANDER. they're not tournament legal. its only for casual play. invest in non commander cards.

    • @k9commander
      @k9commander 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ChickenMcThiccken
      1) Commander cards are legacy and pauper legal. There have been commander cards that have broken those formats.
      2) CEDH exists.
      3) Not everyone plays competitively.

    • @johnbuscher
      @johnbuscher 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ChickenMcThiccken The most played format is Commander. What you think is important does not match Wizard’s own data.

  • @jacobb5564
    @jacobb5564 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I’m imagining that they were walking through the factory and saw a giant stack of nissa’s in a box. They all then looked over at the at the assembly line and saw a bunch of mossfire valley

    • @fate3071
      @fate3071 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What's sad is this most likely means the cards were completely replaced on the print sheet, not even just left out in assembly.

  • @charmandenator5686
    @charmandenator5686 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Prof! I don't speak for everyone but I'd just like to say that I loved the video yesterday! I hope you don't get discouraged by it, algorithms can punish experimentation, but I thought it was a beautiful project that deserves love and praise. Thank you for all your content!

  • @christiannettel6157
    @christiannettel6157 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I miss the days when they gave us a giant card for each of the optional commanders. My criticism with the proxies is essentially the same, I want one for each commander in the deck.

  • @chriskirkland5538
    @chriskirkland5538 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Sorry to hear your greatest heroes video didn't do so well. I watch every video you put out and have for years. Personally, I loved the video and actually found out about some new cards that I'm going to purchase and put into my decks so, thank you.

  • @lmpaske
    @lmpaske 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    These reviews seems to be missing a key part of these decks; the new cards! I don’t understand why these are never really considered. Are they fun? Are they powerful? Are they versatile? Are they worth owning?

    • @Wafflinson
      @Wafflinson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Reviewing new cards is a shitshow for the most part. There are just too many cards in MTG to really be able to take all interactions and synergies into account. Just have to wait to see how they play.
      I watch various people do new card reviews.... they are rarely if ever correct as to what the most powerful cards will be.

  • @PrivateYarrick
    @PrivateYarrick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just want to say that Magic greatest hero is one of your best videos, I loved it. Thanks for putting so much into it!

  • @nach4249
    @nach4249 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I saw the notification and thougt "is it worth it to but secret lair: street fighter already? that was fast" 😂

    • @SPLITKOOKS
      @SPLITKOOKS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That makes two 🤙🏻

    • @Lott.Z
      @Lott.Z 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haduken!

    • @FastFoodVicar
      @FastFoodVicar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I dont play the game physically so for me it would be for collection, so videos showing their value are really good to know whats worth it and whats not.

  • @ArkaosM
    @ArkaosM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Hey Prof, have you seen the new packaging style for the Kamigawa bundles compared to prior set bundles? Seems they’ve really made an effort to reduce plastic usage, I personally like it and seems in the right direction, only the booster packs themselves left to make recyclable.
    Thought it was on topic following your recent video regarding the F&B paper booster packs.

    • @mikesimus3006
      @mikesimus3006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would be interested in hearing this mentioned as well. When I pre-ordered Buckle Up I was shocked that I could get it at a discounted rate. It's the only way that I want to buy precons going forward. I don't see why the alternate packaging isn't talked about more.

    • @keithchristmas7315
      @keithchristmas7315 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They're currently Amazon exclusive, I believe. Whilst I totally agree that the packaging is hugely preferable to the full size ones (and they're a product I'm buying when available because I want them to make more!), I would say many players would prefer to support their LGS or a dedicated online seller rather than Amazon

    • @mikesimus3006
      @mikesimus3006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@keithchristmas7315 Supporting an LGS is a very good point. I definitely feel bad being on a budget, but at least I can support my LGS when I get my upgrades.

    • @ArkaosM
      @ArkaosM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@keithchristmas7315 I agree with the LGS point, but my comment was actually regarding the “Bundles” (aka fat packs), which is my fault for commenting it on a precon video as makes it confusing, only as I received my bundle today. They’ve removed the plastic wrapping and a lot of the excess waste they had on them while still being vibrant and appealing, more so even, hopefully they take this same approach with the precons so they can bring them into the LGS while still looking good on the shelf.

    • @keithchristmas7315
      @keithchristmas7315 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ArkaosM ah, fair enough. That's on me, didn't read your comment properly

  • @LoveTrousers
    @LoveTrousers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Not sure how Buckle Up's value held up in these last 3 months, but I just came back to playing EDH after a 4 year break and I gotta say I'm really impressed with the gameplay of the deck. Not only really playable straight out the box but it contains most of the thematic staples you'd want in a Vehicle deck (granted Vehicles is an inexpensive theme) and it didn't take too many swaps from my personal collection to make it viable in crazier tables.

  • @tempestandacomputer6951
    @tempestandacomputer6951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I'm super interested in the Azorious deck purely for the Mecha theme. That being said, I'll wait for this deck to drop under $30 before I pick it up. I hope to see more mechas in the future! :D

    • @sailordaigurren8225
      @sailordaigurren8225 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd wait, but my LGS never discount these things

    • @whackify
      @whackify 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Honestly I bought the deck myself and it was a lot of fun to play. Unfortunately im not really an artifact player so vehicles seem weird right off the bat in terms of my play style. Just nice to be building a gundam themed deck now

    • @tempestandacomputer6951
      @tempestandacomputer6951 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@whackify Oh yeah for sure, I'm going to build it to theme as well, but will add power pieces. Me not being able to turn off the competitive building in me, I'll probably litter a couple of unique combos that win. The Stations, for instance.

    • @stacyb4365
      @stacyb4365 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Spouse and I bought both the decks and the Azorius deck annihilated the Gruul deck b03. The Gruul is slow to get ramped up, at least it was for me, where the Azorius is ready to throw down after 3-4 turns. It was hard to sit there and get walloped while trying to get enough mana to play my cards.

    • @fantailedtombV2
      @fantailedtombV2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I bought the Azorius mecha deck, tons of fun, you can combo aetherflux reservoir with kotori and katsumasa for theoretically infinite 50 damage if you buy a copy of atherflux.

  • @MikeScarbro
    @MikeScarbro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I'm actually a fan of the "proxy" commander cards vs the oversized cards. The oversized cards can't be stored in a standard deck box and are much harder to transport without getting damaged.

    • @kennyguilherme8358
      @kennyguilherme8358 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      + you get to use the proxy with the deck and put the original in a different one...

    • @tapescripts
      @tapescripts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Same here: I love the new "proxy" commander cards. They fit into a regular sleeve, can be transported in a regular deck box and they don't bend/warp as easy as the foil commanders do.

    • @GerBessa
      @GerBessa 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same. I got a giant Kairi card at the prerelease and it was a pain to carry back home. Looks good on the wall though :)

    • @buttthead
      @buttthead 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They should just give you one in foil and one in foil etched instead of a thicc piece of cardboard that is effectively garbage

  • @uburdub
    @uburdub 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Should be noted that buckle up's value has gone up considerably since this was recorded.
    One of the card's in the precon is seeing legacy play and its now hovering around the ~$20 mark.

  • @SbenjiB
    @SbenjiB 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The one video I wait for every set release! Thanks Prof 😊

  • @justharry2190
    @justharry2190 2 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    these are gonna sit better hold off if you want them.
    also kind of suprised they didnt make a ninja deck for this set.

    • @bluedog4248
      @bluedog4248 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      They don't need to. Ninjas are already ridiculously strong and it would become the Edgar Markov situation, where the deck would get easily hemoginized

    • @zztzgza
      @zztzgza 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Then that would mean that they'd have to print a Yuriko but worse and nobody wants that.

    • @k9commander
      @k9commander 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      1) They already have 2+ ninja commanders.
      2) Ninjas got good representation in the set. They have stated that these precons are designed to expand on themes from the set that don't have enough representation.
      Blood tokens, spirits, decayed, and whatever the green white mechanic was from Midnight Hunt didn't have much representation in their set.

    • @drpibisback7680
      @drpibisback7680 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@k9commander It was called Coven, but the fact you couldn't remember what it was called probably says all that needs to be said about how much representation Coven got in Midnight Hunt.

    • @OMEGA-362
      @OMEGA-362 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      satoru umazawa is in the main set and nothing excepting a reprint looking at you commander ninjustu will be a better ninja commander

  • @cagin5
    @cagin5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Enjoy the release of Kamigawa everyone!

  • @samuelray7271
    @samuelray7271 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Would love to hear how these decks play against past precons. I think a precons commander battle box is a real possibility!

    • @fate3071
      @fate3071 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I own every commander precon unedited and it is fun to sit down with people and just pick random decks every time. Every game is different and fresh, nobody rules the table, and we all have fun

  • @TransformersBoss
    @TransformersBoss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    I hope that next time they make a mistake like with Mossfire Valley, the mistake is accidentally reprinting an Alpha Dual

    • @meteora5576
      @meteora5576 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      They would recall the product for sure before u even can say "where is my niassa?", since its good for the customer not them.

    • @Kryptnyt
      @Kryptnyt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I actually hate the signet land cycle so much haha. They make sense with some mana doublers and are garbage elsewhere.

    • @drpibisback7680
      @drpibisback7680 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@meteora5576 It might also get them sued by the same people who were outraged that Survival of the Fittest got reprinted as a Judge Promo, so definitely not something we can hope for.

  • @maxdrive007
    @maxdrive007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Would love to hear the professors opinion on the card kingdom made commander decks like he did for the battle decks.

    • @Tom-bb3fm
      @Tom-bb3fm 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are they worth it?

    • @maxdrive007
      @maxdrive007 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tom-bb3fm I don't know card kingdom don't put out deck lists. So I don't know what cards come in them.

  • @DamienSmeets
    @DamienSmeets 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    FYI I haven't watched yesterday's video yet because it looked like a video I need to watch with more focus than your regular videos. I definitely planned to watch it, and still do.

  • @OsculationCorrespondence
    @OsculationCorrespondence 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    They should make a Preconstructed Commander Decks with mini figure of commander

    • @zanthy3238
      @zanthy3238 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Replace those silly proxy cards with a painted mini

    • @bonidc6732
      @bonidc6732 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I approve this motion

  • @6966odin
    @6966odin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really enjoyed the "Greatest Hero" video. And wanted to say thank you for making that one, even though my comment isn't on that video.

  • @JP-mg5hy
    @JP-mg5hy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'd love to see a statistic that splits out the 'new cards' cost, since some of those are initially really high due to hype/chase rares.
    That way it can be / /

  • @kaisawheel6286
    @kaisawheel6286 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Appreciate you for all of your hard work bringing the MTG community the much needed info that we really need. Thanks for saving me some money, too! Gonna let this this one ride, myself.

  • @herra16
    @herra16 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Im actually fascinated by the stance. I appreciate the frick out of you prof. Lately I find your vids are heavily weighted to dollar value rather than weighted to playability.
    Not to discredit value the main purpose of an entry level deck is just that- you gain entry to the format.
    One of the greatest parts about our format is that it is constantly evolving and changing, therefore upgrading or rebranding decks is just part of the program.
    To me prof you’ve always been a guy who hasnt been concerned about the dollar value, always putting more weight into playability first.
    I understand the dichotomy, if you say they’re fine without cliff notes the pitchforks come out.
    I just notice a trend of your content slowly morphing into an investment package more so than a players package.
    All the decks you listed also need upgrades- and the point I feel is really lost here and where you’ve missed the mark is using your expertise as a tenured player and valued community member and content creator is to lead your charge.
    Tell us which deck fits which playstyle. Is this a deck that even you are interested in wielding because it fits your own style? Is it Timmy? Johnny? Spike? Vorthos? Or maybe another identity fits it better. Who is going to have fun playing this deck right out of the box, without upgrades? Most importantly, is it new player friendly, as a prerelease kit may be? Something to point me to where I can find upgrades- or maybe a ‘cheatsheet’ list of best possible upgrades I can get.
    Love your content always, especially when you get mad at Postie

  • @deaxkid
    @deaxkid 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I how my foils come pre-curled right out of the box when I got my precon deck for Buckle Up.

  • @willyneuf
    @willyneuf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Would've been a literally perfect deck for a talisman of progress reprint, we are desperate for one. 15 dollars for a talisman is criminal!!

    • @SSolemn
      @SSolemn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      When the mana base and fixing is the most expensive part of tbe game ToT

    • @draketheduelist
      @draketheduelist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@SSolemn Speaking as one who *can* afford that kind of ramp (no cEDH tier though), price is only half the problem.
      There's a reason my recent attempt to build a Syr Gwyn deck (Mardu Knights Equipment matters) ended with a loud curse and me building a Siona deck (Selesnya Enchantment Voltron) instead. A [Cultivate, Rampant Growth, Kodama's Reach, Harrow, Sakura Tribe Elder, Farseek, Diligent Farmhand...] package beats a [Wayfarer's Bauble, Mind Stone, Fractured Powerstone, Worn Powerstone, Fellwar Stone, Star Compass, Hedron Archive, Commander's Sphere, Thran Dynamo, Everflowing Chalice, Heraldic Banner, Gilded Lotus, Seal of the Guild Pact, Sword of the Animist, Talismans of Color, Signets of Color, Diamonds of Color, Myrs of Color, Lockets of Color...] package in every conceivable way. (And may God have mercy on your wallet if you run mono-black... my Urborg Tomb of Yawgmoth + Cabal Coffers combo ran me about $50. And don't get me started on Necropotence...) Green has so many good ways to ramp that are safer, better, and cheaper than the artifact route that you usually don't need much more than Sol Ring, Arcane Signet, and possibly Solemn Simulacrum.
      I don't even _like_ Green. I just feel like I _need_ Green because the alternative is more expensive. (And if running Green, you _will_ run Beast Within. Why _wouldn't_ you?) And because non-Green ramp dies to an errant sneeze (which you may not have even provoked; maybe somebody put down a Dictate of Erebos or Panharmonicon and half your mana base just happened to be collateral damage), better run Blue and the Counterspell package (Counterspell, Negate, Disdainful Stroke, Arcane Denial, Disruption Protocol, season to taste...). So if you don't run Green, either become a control deck or lose to board wipes.
      That's why Mardu, with neither Green nor Blue, is such hell to build. Your ramp is strictly inferior _and_ you can't even protect it (let alone use Blue's exceptional draw suite) with counters. Enjoy spending most of the deck running permanent recursion, protection, and Flickertron instead of your commander's _actual_ strategy. And don't forget the panic button (Teferi's Protection)! If your wallet isn't crying, you will be crying when 90 of your 99 (or 52 of your 61 if you don't count lands) is just the same interchangeable package of removal, board wipes and card draw that _every_ deck in white, black or red runs. You know the names: Blasphemous Act. Chaos Warp. Chain Reaction. Magus of the Wheel. Terminate. Swords to Plowshares. Path to Exile. Generous Gift. Go For the Throat. Phyrexian Arena. Damnation. Winds of Abandon. Cleansing Nova. Faithless Looting. Esper Sentinel. Dockside Extortionist. And many, many more. Some are cheap, some are Dockside Extortionist, but they're all functional. Every card is a tried and tested meta staple. In fact, there's even been some white ramp joining the party in more recent years (Archaeomancer's Map, Smothering Tithe, Knight of the White Orchid...). But that portion of your deck has all been decided for you long before you started brewing, and it's all so generic that it's unlikely to mesh with your strategy, which makes deck building super boring...

    • @SSolemn
      @SSolemn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I run Dimir, Esper and Mardu decks, and also Bant, Jund and Simic decks, so I know what you mean... I am just angry that lands and Talismans are SO expensive, because they should be printed in a massive way to keep them available and cheap. Even then Nature's Lore, Farseek and Three Visits are not less than $3 each, so very much artifact like, the thing is the contract protecting lands. (In Mardu I always run Boros Charm, they should make some similar cards to protect the stones xD)

  • @StalwartShinobi
    @StalwartShinobi ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this channel! Never saw mtg as a thing on TH-cam but once I started committing to brothers war sets I subbed and now whenever I search something mtg and watch it, it ends up being the Prof :)

  • @abc_def-55
    @abc_def-55 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The decklist they posted mentioned them coming with single copies of appropriate color *Ukiyo-e basic lands*, my deck (and best I can tell yours too) came with just regular basics (though the correct number of them at least, with the Ukiyo-e replaced by a regular basic). I don't personally care too much about said lands, but I think this is even more egregious than the Nissa thing, because the Ukiyo-e lands were actually advertised as being in while Nissa was not.

  • @jakedlind
    @jakedlind 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good idea to shout out about your last video, Prof. Will go watch now. It's not bad to let your fans know when you were disappointed with the initial reception of something you worked hard on!

  • @Oopsall
    @Oopsall 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love the thick commanders because I can use the thick one for my commander without taking up 75% of my playmat, and use the other version of it in the 99.

  • @dradis1
    @dradis1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm just getting back into MTG through Arena. I haven't played since 2004-ish. I used to live for Friday nights at my local comic shop in VA.
    Your videos have been so helpful to getting me back in the game. I love how you break things down and the overall feel of your channel. I feel like a kid again playing this game, even though I have kids of my own now lol. THANK YOU!

  • @Phantomwaxx
    @Phantomwaxx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Seems like a whiff from Wizards. I'll pass. Great video, Prof! Also, Wizards boasts record profits from last year, yet the stink of incompetence over a print error mocks us.

  • @FMS-qm6le
    @FMS-qm6le 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the enlightment! Just started playing mtg (or edh) again last week. Your videos really help to get into the game.
    Greetings from germany!

  • @lukeholder2829
    @lukeholder2829 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    It's hard to hold out sometimes but waiting to buy the precons is definitely the best idea
    Unless they bring back the 20 dollar ones lol

  • @davidhobbs6292
    @davidhobbs6292 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yesterday's video was amazing. I did watch it. You go prof!

  • @JustRightPinedo
    @JustRightPinedo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just wanna say again I love love your content, you consistently provide us with helpful and useful info.
    I almost strictly buy singles and (worhwhile) commander boxes at this point and my wallet has you to thank for the fact that I spend significantly less for what I want than peers in my playgroup.

  • @patrickbuc2552
    @patrickbuc2552 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks to the professor for guiding us in these types of videos, which is far more valuable than any pre-con deck.
    I know where to spend the hard earned money I make. Thanks for grabbing these and opening them up for us!

  • @Tt-tt9my
    @Tt-tt9my 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I miss when commander precons were a once a year thing. Felt more special, and for the most part felt like they really hard worked on them in terms of new commanders, cards, theme and reprints. Plus felt like they always had amazing value

    • @letsgodigiv5615
      @letsgodigiv5615 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Naw that means everyones gonna have the same commander decks I prefer monthly:)

  • @Dot_Skeith
    @Dot_Skeith 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching who was the greatest Hero because of your amazing advertising at the end. (Also because I watch every video you post).
    Thank you as always brother!

  • @CreationEdge
    @CreationEdge 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I prefer the proxy commanders over the oversized cards, because of the all-too-common scenario where I accidentally shuffle my commander back into my deck after a game.
    However, I find that with my pre-cons I'm rarely using the featured commander, and instead one of the alternate ones. I would prefer getting proxies for the 2 or 3 suggested commanders, so I can ACTUALLY use them instead of hypothetically use them.

  • @michaelpiercy89
    @michaelpiercy89 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yesterday's video didn't even appear on my timeline! Glad you mentioned it Prof, what a gem!

  • @AnimEva_33
    @AnimEva_33 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I can see why Buckle Up didnt have really any notable cards in theme of the vehicles that are expensive. Its still a niche type of card type, but def could have thrown into some kind of chase rare reprint that seriously needed a reprint anyway

    • @Tom-bb3fm
      @Tom-bb3fm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Azorius Talisman and Azorius Painland would have been enough, they are skyrocketing in price for ths stupidiest of reasons

  • @ColorwaveCraftsCo
    @ColorwaveCraftsCo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The recurring gag of dropping the boxes on the floor was awesome 😂

  • @lockecole3726
    @lockecole3726 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    1:17 I get that you said personally, but to me, the "proxy" card is great. It's fantastic for when you want the commander in your other decks, but want to keep the precon with the same commander. 100% disagree on having the big ones back, and personally I hope Wotc doesn't listen to that part of your video.

    • @BearsDenGaming
      @BearsDenGaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same. Id rather play with the proxy and save the legit card for the collection or in another deck especially if it ends up being expensive down the line

    • @Volkbrecht
      @Volkbrecht 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The big ones were kind of... interesting. Every one I got, I dutifully put into one of the big deck boxes, which now sits in a drawer and is basically never touched any more since no new cards are being added. Pretty things with zero use.

    • @nathanhedglin931
      @nathanhedglin931 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed.

  • @bazrin
    @bazrin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Of all the suits I've seen of yours, this one is my favorite!

  • @josephdurham4950
    @josephdurham4950 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I prefer the thick proxies since I can actually/practically use. The huge cards just got thrown out or tossed In some box but I loved seeing decks of giant cards 😆 🤣

  • @dcrow9650
    @dcrow9650 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really wait for these videos, they are gold to me.

  • @ninjaman0003
    @ninjaman0003 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Ironically, I want both these decks because of the lack of value. These decks have a lot of cards I dont have a single copy of and want and also like both deck ideas.

  • @JovialRoger
    @JovialRoger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am honestly surprised to see you prefer the oversized cards, since usually I find our opinions and reasonings behind those opinions in complete agreement with my own. I love the board "proxy" commander cards and think they are an infinitely better option than the oversized cards for actual gameplay. They are the same width and height at as normal cards and can fit in most sleeves, so they take up no extra space on the battlefield compared to the normal commander card, at the same time they are nearly impossible to shuffle into your deck accidentally and easily identifiable even when in the same sleeve as the rest of your deck. The thickness of their cardboard makes foil curl a non issue, and their small size also allows use of the excellent new commander boxes that come with the decks and can hold your entire deck sleeved, admittedly only with certain sleeves (UltraPro is what I know works) and I would like WotC to add a couple of millimeters so it would fit DragonShield as well, but it is still much better than the old boxes. Personally I'd appreciate WotC providing the opportunity to get any cards printed like these commanders, at reasonable prices, but I'm sorry you aren't a fan of the new cards.

    • @drpibisback7680
      @drpibisback7680 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Having used the mini deck box, it actually will hold 100 Dragon Shielded cards - it just won't hold anything else.

  • @wolfsajin
    @wolfsajin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    While Buckle up’s price isn’t great, the idea of making a Gundam deck with Shorikai is just way to enticing

    • @Wiliscool98
      @Wiliscool98 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve made mecha anime pilot alters for myself because I literally want to go full Gundam on this. I’ve got Mechtitan Core on the way too.

  • @HottyWithGun123
    @HottyWithGun123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the price comparison 👌🏻 your humour is off the wall, love it

  • @dontstealmydiamondsv3156
    @dontstealmydiamondsv3156 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    On the bright side it seems very likely these decks will see a more dramatic price drop than previous precons

  • @mastamizclix42
    @mastamizclix42 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    pre-ordered buckle up because I love the theme, but I had no idea about the staggering difference in monetary value. Thanks a lot Professor!
    Now I'll go watch your previous video ;D

  • @oxpolitik
    @oxpolitik 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Typically I get at least one precon with each new set... I'm passing this time. Not enough value. Nor do I find the Commander synergies that exciting.
    It only takes one awesome, iconic reprint (not necessarily crazy expensive) to have me take notice. Bear Umbra isn't it.

  • @Phe0nix1986
    @Phe0nix1986 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Prof this was great! Also i loved your hero one!

  • @Bradshelt250
    @Bradshelt250 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the video!:) I must say you doing those is it worth to buy videos makes me happy and changed my outlook on buying everything I buy!:)

  • @ahmedrivera9710
    @ahmedrivera9710 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was so looking forward for this vid before making a purchase.

  • @soledadsouthgate6177
    @soledadsouthgate6177 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Prof. Putting in work as always. Thank you for your tireless efforts and unwavering resolve to educate us!

  • @carlcustodio4186
    @carlcustodio4186 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Prof! Have a great weekend!

  • @ElusiveNight99
    @ElusiveNight99 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always catch your lore videos actually! I don’t get enough lore and I actually turn to you and Rudy as my main magic TH-camrs. Really good as a podcast type of deal too!

  • @saveachip2620
    @saveachip2620 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really enjoy your videos, you are very much the "Dungeon Craft" of Magic the Gathering. Not sure if you know his channel but both you and Professor Dungeon master share very similar traits from almost essentially entwined game. I get the best of boths worlds and its just great

  • @williamstotzkowski148
    @williamstotzkowski148 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Prof, I dig that shirt and tie combo! Looking good!

  • @philipmorse-fortier5499
    @philipmorse-fortier5499 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your comment about Sword of Truth and Justice is pretty damning. That card is INCREDIBLE synergy with both the commander and all the other +1/+1 counter cards. That should have been a card that was in the first couple they thought of to put in the deck!
    It's a bit of a bummer to see the value on these be so low, the set is pretty cool and looks really nice with the art direction (on regular magic cards, I dislike alternate treatments in most sets).

  • @Urabrask
    @Urabrask 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the research you and your school staff do for the community

  • @imposifle9792
    @imposifle9792 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For my first Commander deck I did consider the other pre constructed decks, but I don’t care about card value or whatever, and the others don’t have mecha so they are automatically less cool. Another great video anyway professor, always really helpful getting into this game.

  • @hiygamer
    @hiygamer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm sorry to hear that yesterday's video didn't perform as well as you had hoped. For what it's worth, I really enjoyed it.

  • @SlycatHikaru
    @SlycatHikaru 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I went back to watch the greatest hero video because of your plea. Hoped the view helped. Thanks for the breakdown

  • @JCTheaterYGO
    @JCTheaterYGO 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ‼️‼️‼️EVERYONE-please be aware that the previous video on the heroes of Magic that Prof mentions we should all go watch at the end of this video is in fact really good and worth every second. ‼️‼️‼️
    As someone who started getting into commander in early 2020, there is a wide backlog of story and lore that was revealed and expanded upon to me from that video, and I want it to succeed well enough to see more stuff like that in the future!!!

  • @cIzanagi
    @cIzanagi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have literally NEVER played or even held a MTG card but I love watching your videos
    I don't know why
    I'm also pretty sure I'm never even going to play this game but here I am.. anticipating every upload..

  • @Arteafact
    @Arteafact 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved your heroes and villains videos! They led me down a rabbit hole of MTG lore, I wanted to learn more! Please keep making stuff like that :)

  • @salvore13
    @salvore13 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    omfg finally i litterally was freaking out cuz it took so long for this to come out i cannot think for my self and rely soley on the professors opinion to decide wether or not to buy precons

  • @Micro_Tyrant_Games
    @Micro_Tyrant_Games 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am so glad you mentioned the Nissa controversy.

  • @TheNapLover
    @TheNapLover 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    looking fresh my dude, i need that tie for sure.

  • @chadchicken1310
    @chadchicken1310 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    really appreciate these videos prof, I always wait for the 'Is It Worth It' before buying any mtg products 10/10

  • @Monsstrocity
    @Monsstrocity 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good morning Prof! Just got my coffee and about to enjoy the breakdown!

  • @Blizzardofizz
    @Blizzardofizz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Was I watching another Commander video on these decks when I got this notification? Yep. Did I also leave that video to come watch this one? Yep.

  • @shwaazi7765
    @shwaazi7765 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is such a bummer. I really loved the aesthetic of Kamigawa. Was hoping to see better commanders for it

  • @Omega_Orion
    @Omega_Orion 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the breakdown, also really dig the tie!

  • @nosrin1988
    @nosrin1988 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It was a good video prof, you guys did a great job. I'll watch it again later today just for you!

  • @1KamaronConClase
    @1KamaronConClase 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you as always for this kind of videos, I was thinking about some mechs, and this is valuable info. And now I will go and watch the hero video.

  • @munckee1
    @munckee1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    MAN! Guardianship or Swat with new commander art would be so sick! Great idea prof! Imagine ever few commander decks they reprint that cycle with the new commanders. Thatd be amazing!

  • @JoeGrzzly
    @JoeGrzzly 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love that you just kept yeeting the Gruul deck. X D

  • @cuccooverlord9812
    @cuccooverlord9812 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bought both already. Ready to play these days.

  • @SoloHare
    @SoloHare 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank youuu, love these tips saved me a buy and might check around for those kaldheim onesss

  • @pschulzdesign6147
    @pschulzdesign6147 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I''ve seen your last video. It was great and artwork is amazing :).

  • @AKru-hc9tp
    @AKru-hc9tp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    God bless you prof for bringing infinitely valuable information.

  • @TwoDudesandaSasquatch
    @TwoDudesandaSasquatch 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I appreciated the greatest heroes of magic video. I watched it the day it was released then watched it again when I got home with a friend. It was a well thought out video just like the villains video. I enjoy most of your videos actually and when I do get on to TH-cam you’re the first channel I look up.