Maan, the American media sometimes overhype EU players, the dude did nothing but sit on bench in Europe, when he cameback from NBA he couldn't even make it in Euroleague, same thing happened with Darko Milicic, I think it's pretty clear that you need to use lotery picks only for youngsters dominating in Euroleague or any of the top leagues. Luka was always a safe pick, same as Wemby, if ur 18 and dominating against grown ass men that some even played in NBA, I think it's an easy decision.
@@prismatic9804 being a backups backup when you were a lottery pick is not a good look idc if you stayed in the league that's politics and a good repor keeping him around.Same thing with kwame brown he stayed around alot longer then he should have over politics not because he was actually productive
Luka was MVP and Euroleague champion. Bender was the worst player on a bad Euroleague team. Yet in the US they compared the two. even their playing style is not similar. It is like when it comes to Europeans all logic goes out of the window and every new guy gets the reputation of the last European guy that entered the league. Imagine picking up 5th some guy from Chicago, just because a year before some other guy from Chicago who has better stats and skills, had a great season.
I'm usually skeptical of the "jack of all trades, master of none" type of prospects. And that's exactly what Bender was. Never excelled at one particular thing, just showed flashes, and that combined with his size made scouts hype him up too much.
With busts, as well as steals, it’s almost always easy to diagnose with numbers and context. He was a bench-warmer who played i think less than 7 MPG on a team in Israel of all places, and because he was 7 feet tall and made a 3 pointer in a game before (even though I’m pretty sure his percentages weren’t good), he was a top-5 pick. Thanks to Kristaps, who himself was much more productive on a superior team.
Finally the video I’ve been waiting for! What about a series of “how good they could have been” you probably could come up with a shorter better title but guys like Archie Goodwin, James White, Jonathan Bender could be in that series possibly. Basically about guys who were hyped but weren’t necessarily busts but had massive potential as projects. There was another guy I forgot his name he played for Toronto and they called him “The Brazilian Kevin Durant” lmao
Every team Bender has been on goes on to the Finals after they get rid of him. The Bucks and Warriors won a ring after they dumped him, but only the Suns didn’t win a title after getting rid of him. Oh and it’s nice to hear Andy Hoops’ voice bit calling him a non factor. As a viewer of Andy Hoops’ videos, it sounded very familiar to me.
@@tremiller3988 Ohh okay, I see. But “Every team Bender has been on goes on to the finals after they get rid of him” is literally the first line of the original comment 😅
But did they get to the finals because of him lol lots of players end up on finals teams for many years but ride the bench and play no real part of the run it's just weird the team that wins ended up signing them to be a emergency player basically
Im so happy i found this channel, I've been watching now for about a month and you are one of the best sports you tubers out there. Keep it up bro, your gonna blow up soon!
It's interesting to compare the final-season stats of the three European stretch guys taken (or about to be taken) in the top-five of NBA drafts since 2015: *Wembanyama (France):* 21.7 PTS | 47% FG | 10.5 REB | 3.0 BLK | 2.5 AST | 0.8 STL *Porzingis (Spain):* 10.7 PTS | 47% FG | 4.8 REB | 1.0 BLK | 0.9 STL | 0.4 AST *Bender (Israel):* 5.5 PTS | 47% FG | 3.0 REB | 0.9 BLK | 0.8 AST | 0.6 STL There's a clear outlier there. Bender should NOT have gone 4th overall even in a weak draft. Worth noting that he was nearly a year younger than Wembanyama - and two years younger than Porzingis - before coming out and clearly needed that extra time to develop his game before heading to the US. He averaged a pretty strong 17.2 PTS/53 FG%/6.6 REB/1.1 BLK in 10 Spanish league games at 25-years-old before an ACL tear this season. If it were 20 years ago, when teams were comfortable bringing 'older' guys in from overseas, he might have got another shot in the league if he kept improving his game but with today's youth movement I doubt it unfortunately.
He has made big numbers in the spanish League this season and he´s 25. I think he´s a very unconsistent player with flashes of that might be... and let´s face, 7 footers who can do everything that he was expected to do (defend mutliple positions, pass and shoots three) are very unlikely to happen every draft. But as GM you don´t want to miss the chance. And for those who keep saying you don´t want to invest your picks on europlayers: Giannis, Jokic and Doncic, salute you.
jokic and giannis for sure. we have to stop acting like luka did something before he did something. giannis and jokic have actually gone and won a championship. glorifying luka and even putting him in the same sentence is overhyping him. bro could be MJ levels of talent and I wont care until he proves he can actually win.
Dragon Bender was a 7 ft 1 shooting guard who 1) couldn't rebound 2) couldn't hit open shots 3) couldn't get open despite the league barely guarding him 4) couldn't defend 5) couldn't really dribble, especially not in traffic. He was basically his generation's Nikoloz Tskitishvili. Basically people saw Porzingis and any big man with an outside shot was overrated.
Greetings from one coach from Croatia. Believe me,we ALL in bball culture in Cro were so surprised when we saw what draft place he landed. We all knew that after rookie contract he will be out. His coach Nikola Vujičić was Euro League legend,old school center position with no shooting,no passing,no jump shot,no driving to basket,just dunking and laying buckets underneath basket. And he schooled Dragan on his Euro League experience. That cant pass in NBA today.
Kojeg si ti nikolu vujcica gledao? Nikola je imao odlicnu post igru, igru ledima i sut sa poludistance cak i osjecaj za asistenciju malo je kasko u obrani ali je zato bio odlican u napadu. Pogledaj bilo koju tekmu sa ep 2006 ili makabija. Sto se tice bendera nikola ga je dobro ispromovirao s obzirom da je odigrao samo par tekma za makabi i prezentirao ga je kao novog porzingisa. .
I get it but Euroleague is much harder to score and much more physical than the NBA. We have handcheck amd 5 second paint. So him not doing great there wouldn't rule him out here tbh. Ya that's how bad the NBA rules are rn. But most people don't realize how bad it is here rn. We are a ft league. Our mvps minus giannis get like 15 a night from fts. It's pretty bad
dobro ti je čovjek napisao, gdje si ti to gledao Vujčića pa ga sad ovdje blatiš i lažno opisuješ i to na engleskom jeziku? Vujčić je bio fenomenalan all around centar i igrač u napadu. Imao je odličnu igru leđima prema košu, odličan midrange i solidan šut za 3 i bio je fenomenalan asistent sa sjajnim osjećajem za igru, posebno to vrijedi uzevši u obzir da je bio centar. Vujčić je uostalom i prvi igrač koji je ostvario triple double učinak u jednoj modernoj euroleague utakmici 2005. godine (11p, 12s, 11a), a imao je i godinu poslije opet triple double s 27,10 i 10. Mislim da samo taj podatak jasno govori o kakvom je igraču riječ i da je bio sve osim nekakvog jednodimenzionalnog scorera koji samo polaže i zakucava kakvim si ga tu opisao. Ako si zaista košarkaški trener savjetujem ti da malo istražiš i eventualno pogledaš koju Vujčićevu utakmicu u Maccabiju pa izmjeni ili izbriši ovaj komentar jer (svjesno ili nesvjesno) daješ potpuno krive informacije o nečemu o čemu očito nisi baš informiran
@@Mrcinaable to je stara skola stari moj. Nemoj molim te mi pričati, školovani sam trener i uskoro doktor košsrke po struci. To što je njega Vuja učio, to prolazi u Europi. Čak jako teško danas u vrunskoj Eu košarci. NBA košarka je nebo i zemlja u odnosu na Eu basket. Centri su brzi,okretni,asistenti, šutiraju 3-ce samo tako,BRZI SU,a Vuja ga je trenirao po svom starom sustavu koje on učio dok je bio mlađi i kasnije stariji. To nema veze sa današnjom košarkom. Pozdrav ✌️
Okay I’ve finally watched this in full after my comment yesterday. Fantastic video. One thing I’ll say is Dragan even today is still young and I think in both the nfl and nba today there is a level of impatience when it comes to developing super young talent if they aren’t nba ready. I’ll give a few examples that took a while to develop, Jermaine O’Neal (4 years) Steve Nash (4 years), Gerald Wallace (3 years) - I’m not saying give them a decade but sometimes it could take longer and I just think teams aren’t willing to put in that time anymore. Obviously phoenix gave Dragan three years but I think there’s something to “growing up in the system” phoenix had two head coaches in 2/3 years dragan was there. He could never get used to a system unfortunately.
I remember watching dude still in Summer League coming into year 4 and he just looked completely lost out there. Never seen anything like it. Even the worst role players should gain some sort of familiarity with that much experience.
Part of being a shooter is your ability to move without the ball and attack the rim since people won’t give you room to shoot. I’m sure he got away with it in Croatian/euro leagues but when you got the NBA with everyone having insane wingspans, the close outs are a lot quicker.
He did not get away with anything in the Euroleague. In fact, his Euroleague numbers exposed all you need to know about his actual abilities . He played for a single year and served as a role player coming off the bench and had issues on defense , with 10 mpg, shooting 2 ppg on 33% from the field and 25% from 3. NBA scouts simply fell in love with his potential and ignored everything else.
I like to pretend “Dragon Bender” is an attack in Dragon Ball, possibly by Omega Shenron. As a Suns fan I have to. The reality of using the 4th pick to get Bender is too harsh of a reality to face.
I remember him getting drafted all the hype he got! It’s a shame because he did look solid in the summer league but then I stopped hearing about him, regardless he still got the bag at least? Love watching your videos btw fam always love listening when I’m heading to work 🫱🏾🫲🏼keep it up!
you’re right about him being a casualty of the stretch big. he just needs space that no team wants to make plays for him. warriors might have been the answer though.
GMs just love 7ft mfs that are very mobile and versatile. The problem with MANY young versatile prospects is that they can show promises in multiple things but they just not consistent with it. They can do a Jokic pass and the next 5 plays they lose the ball; they can do a Mutombo block but they can get dunked on 3 times; they can hit back2back 3s but miss the next 10. Versatile (unless you average 20/10/7) and super athletic high energy 2 way prospects (Josh Jackson, Stanley Johnson, Winslow, Badley) are always risky
Every team keeps trying to find the next Durant, or some goofy ass reason, "Unicorn". KD is a guard like big that can score in ungodly amount of ways. Porzingis was the "unicorn" but let's be real, he's a KD0.5 and is permanently injured. Dragan Bender is just one of the casualties on the way. Wembanyama looks to be KD2.0 but with a subpar scoring percentage, I doubt it.
this is what happens when you put an overseas player who was aaaaalright into the nba and overhype him, even when he himself is saying hes not all that. im a life long suns fan but this is completely the scouts' fault
It’s simple it’s different playing in Croatia 🇭🇷 or BOSNIA🇧🇦 Then playing a bunch a Big aggressive Black American players . He was overwhelmed by the bigger stronger black players in the league . He should’ve been a 2 nd round pick at best. ( Yes in ✊🏿) But don’t mean it in a racist way by any means .
@@christianmendoza8107 they were pretty up and down. Look at Wemby's stats when he played in a better league than he is in now. Homie barely played cause of playing bad or an injury he suffered from the physicality and overall competition being better because his body is a twig.
Yah send him somewhere with a great g league team and great coaching on both NBA/league would of done wonders for him if he could of had a season or maybe 2 in the g league to really get into the NBA style of play got some weight on could of been a lot different
every year the nba attempts to hype up a really tall guy that is capable of "doing it all". we see it often. they see a 7 foot guy who does things a 7 footer doesnt do and they get overhyped. victor is the latest overhype guy of that elk. i dont think he's gonna have this amazing career everybody is already projecting him to have. there are far too many examples of a 6'10 or taller guy coming into the league with "guard skills" and they end up quickly becoming a bust or they just become okay. its a gamble and you hope that it translates to NBA competition. i personally wont be surprised to see victor disappoint many at least in the first few years of his career. he needs more weight and we need to see him against actual NBA competition. wouldnt we all just love to create the ideal 7 footer with great ball handling and is a shot creator type of player. thats what the nba looks for every draft. its why you see guys get drafted with similar profiles to that of a victor.
thon maker, bol bol, dragen bender and soon victor wembanyama.. all these guys were overrated for their height and skills but are not good enough. size does not equal dominance
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I swear bro was drafted for having a cool name
Nah fr
is pretty sweet though
like darko 😅😂
The 4 types of Benders: Water Benders, Air Benders, Earth Benders, and Dragon Bender.
nah the hype was for real
People always say these guys "handle the ball better than guards." No, they don't. It's nonsense.
Yeah it’s a stupid cliche. The only 7 footer with truly guard like skills is maybe KD.
@@xblfanatic360 and Jokic
@@xblfanatic360Dirk had some handles early in his career as well, there was a reason why K.D always got compared to him early on.
@@darknightmike10yearsagoFuck no.
@@SL-ld9tn Dirk a legend and had decent handle early on but nothing near kd tbh
Maan, the American media sometimes overhype EU players, the dude did nothing but sit on bench in Europe, when he cameback from NBA he couldn't even make it in Euroleague, same thing happened with Darko Milicic, I think it's pretty clear that you need to use lotery picks only for youngsters dominating in Euroleague or any of the top leagues. Luka was always a safe pick, same as Wemby, if ur 18 and dominating against grown ass men that some even played in NBA, I think it's an easy decision.
Wemby hasn't done anything close to Luka
@@stevechen1991 Facts. Luka is the generational talent.
@@stevechen1991 He never said that he did
Darko played NBA for a decade. I wouldn't compare him to this guy
@@prismatic9804 being a backups backup when you were a lottery pick is not a good look idc if you stayed in the league that's politics and a good repor keeping him around.Same thing with kwame brown he stayed around alot longer then he should have over politics not because he was actually productive
Luka was MVP and Euroleague champion.
Bender was the worst player on a bad Euroleague team.
Yet in the US they compared the two. even their playing style is not similar.
It is like when it comes to Europeans all logic goes out of the window and every new guy gets the reputation of the last European guy that entered the league.
Imagine picking up 5th some guy from Chicago, just because a year before some other guy from Chicago who has better stats and skills, had a great season.
luka still hasn't proven a thing so I mean euro league accolades mean nothing.
I'm usually skeptical of the "jack of all trades, master of none" type of prospects. And that's exactly what Bender was. Never excelled at one particular thing, just showed flashes, and that combined with his size made scouts hype him up too much.
Kinda star or bust if you can’t fit a role
With busts, as well as steals, it’s almost always easy to diagnose with numbers and context.
He was a bench-warmer who played i think less than 7 MPG on a team in Israel of all places, and because he was 7 feet tall and made a 3 pointer in a game before (even though I’m pretty sure his percentages weren’t good), he was a top-5 pick. Thanks to Kristaps, who himself was much more productive on a superior team.
Finally the video I’ve been waiting for! What about a series of “how good they could have been” you probably could come up with a shorter better title but guys like Archie Goodwin, James White, Jonathan Bender could be in that series possibly. Basically about guys who were hyped but weren’t necessarily busts but had massive potential as projects. There was another guy I forgot his name he played for Toronto and they called him “The Brazilian Kevin Durant” lmao
Bruno Caboclo was his name
Actually love this idea
Other guys I can think of are Kevin Knox and Emmanuel Mudiay. A lot of interesting physical attributes but very raw skills
Holy crap you could do Andrew Bynum in this series too
Every team Bender has been on goes on to the Finals after they get rid of him. The Bucks and Warriors won a ring after they dumped him, but only the Suns didn’t win a title after getting rid of him. Oh and it’s nice to hear Andy Hoops’ voice bit calling him a non factor. As a viewer of Andy Hoops’ videos, it sounded very familiar to me.
Suns went to the Finals
@@tremiller3988 yeah but they didn’t win which is what the comment is saying.
@@yennobli what i was saying since they got rid of him they went far
@@tremiller3988 Ohh okay, I see. But “Every team Bender has been on goes on to the finals after they get rid of him” is literally the first line of the original comment 😅
But did they get to the finals because of him lol lots of players end up on finals teams for many years but ride the bench and play no real part of the run it's just weird the team that wins ended up signing them to be a emergency player basically
Im so happy i found this channel, I've been watching now for about a month and you are one of the best sports you tubers out there. Keep it up bro, your gonna blow up soon!
Thanks brotha!!!
I hope good things come from your hard work my brother. You do amazing projects! Please keep grinding! ❤
It's interesting to compare the final-season stats of the three European stretch guys taken (or about to be taken) in the top-five of NBA drafts since 2015:
*Wembanyama (France):* 21.7 PTS | 47% FG | 10.5 REB | 3.0 BLK | 2.5 AST | 0.8 STL
*Porzingis (Spain):* 10.7 PTS | 47% FG | 4.8 REB | 1.0 BLK | 0.9 STL | 0.4 AST
*Bender (Israel):* 5.5 PTS | 47% FG | 3.0 REB | 0.9 BLK | 0.8 AST | 0.6 STL
There's a clear outlier there. Bender should NOT have gone 4th overall even in a weak draft. Worth noting that he was nearly a year younger than Wembanyama - and two years younger than Porzingis - before coming out and clearly needed that extra time to develop his game before heading to the US.
He averaged a pretty strong 17.2 PTS/53 FG%/6.6 REB/1.1 BLK in 10 Spanish league games at 25-years-old before an ACL tear this season. If it were 20 years ago, when teams were comfortable bringing 'older' guys in from overseas, he might have got another shot in the league if he kept improving his game but with today's youth movement I doubt it unfortunately.
He has made big numbers in the spanish League this season and he´s 25. I think he´s a very unconsistent player with flashes of that might be... and let´s face, 7 footers who can do everything that he was expected to do (defend mutliple positions, pass and shoots three) are very unlikely to happen every draft. But as GM you don´t want to miss the chance. And for those who keep saying you don´t want to invest your picks on europlayers: Giannis, Jokic and Doncic, salute you.
jokic and giannis for sure. we have to stop acting like luka did something before he did something. giannis and jokic have actually gone and won a championship. glorifying luka and even putting him in the same sentence is overhyping him. bro could be MJ levels of talent and I wont care until he proves he can actually win.
@@austinneveau9387The Mavs gotta put the talent around him so he can win lol
Dragon Bender was a 7 ft 1 shooting guard who 1) couldn't rebound 2) couldn't hit open shots 3) couldn't get open despite the league barely guarding him 4) couldn't defend 5) couldn't really dribble, especially not in traffic.
He was basically his generation's Nikoloz Tskitishvili. Basically people saw Porzingis and any big man with an outside shot was overrated.
Keep doing these bro
Greetings from one coach from Croatia. Believe me,we ALL in bball culture in Cro were so surprised when we saw what draft place he landed. We all knew that after rookie contract he will be out. His coach Nikola Vujičić was Euro League legend,old school center position with no shooting,no passing,no jump shot,no driving to basket,just dunking and laying buckets underneath basket. And he schooled Dragan on his Euro League experience. That cant pass in NBA today.
Kojeg si ti nikolu vujcica gledao? Nikola je imao odlicnu post igru, igru ledima i sut sa poludistance cak i osjecaj za asistenciju malo je kasko u obrani ali je zato bio odlican u napadu. Pogledaj bilo koju tekmu sa ep 2006 ili makabija.
Sto se tice bendera nikola ga je dobro ispromovirao s obzirom da je odigrao samo par tekma za makabi i prezentirao ga je kao novog porzingisa. .
vujicic with no passing? lol
I get it but Euroleague is much harder to score and much more physical than the NBA. We have handcheck amd 5 second paint. So him not doing great there wouldn't rule him out here tbh. Ya that's how bad the NBA rules are rn. But most people don't realize how bad it is here rn. We are a ft league. Our mvps minus giannis get like 15 a night from fts. It's pretty bad
dobro ti je čovjek napisao, gdje si ti to gledao Vujčića pa ga sad ovdje blatiš i lažno opisuješ i to na engleskom jeziku? Vujčić je bio fenomenalan all around centar i igrač u napadu. Imao je odličnu igru leđima prema košu, odličan midrange i solidan šut za 3 i bio je fenomenalan asistent sa sjajnim osjećajem za igru, posebno to vrijedi uzevši u obzir da je bio centar. Vujčić je uostalom i prvi igrač koji je ostvario triple double učinak u jednoj modernoj euroleague utakmici 2005. godine (11p, 12s, 11a), a imao je i godinu poslije opet triple double s 27,10 i 10. Mislim da samo taj podatak jasno govori o kakvom je igraču riječ i da je bio sve osim nekakvog jednodimenzionalnog scorera koji samo polaže i zakucava kakvim si ga tu opisao. Ako si zaista košarkaški trener savjetujem ti da malo istražiš i eventualno pogledaš koju Vujčićevu utakmicu u Maccabiju pa izmjeni ili izbriši ovaj komentar jer (svjesno ili nesvjesno) daješ potpuno krive informacije o nečemu o čemu očito nisi baš informiran
@@Mrcinaable to je stara skola stari moj. Nemoj molim te mi pričati, školovani sam trener i uskoro doktor košsrke po struci. To što je njega Vuja učio, to prolazi u Europi. Čak jako teško danas u vrunskoj Eu košarci. NBA košarka je nebo i zemlja u odnosu na Eu basket. Centri su brzi,okretni,asistenti, šutiraju 3-ce samo tako,BRZI SU,a Vuja ga je trenirao po svom starom sustavu koje on učio dok je bio mlađi i kasnije stariji. To nema veze sa današnjom košarkom. Pozdrav ✌️
Ayyyy let’s goooo new vid! 💪🗣️
Ey you're gonna blow up soon my dude. I enjoy your videos!
Thanks Adam!!
Good to see your views continuing to rise. I told you you had the stuff to make it 🤝🤝
Okay I’ve finally watched this in full after my comment yesterday. Fantastic video. One thing I’ll say is Dragan even today is still young and I think in both the nfl and nba today there is a level of impatience when it comes to developing super young talent if they aren’t nba ready. I’ll give a few examples that took a while to develop, Jermaine O’Neal (4 years) Steve Nash (4 years), Gerald Wallace (3 years) - I’m not saying give them a decade but sometimes it could take longer and I just think teams aren’t willing to put in that time anymore. Obviously phoenix gave Dragan three years but I think there’s something to “growing up in the system” phoenix had two head coaches in 2/3 years dragan was there. He could never get used to a system unfortunately.
Good insight
Love hearing Andy Hoops & Funky in the intro
Man the ad really killed the video.
Awesome video… Once again, you can’t do no wrong, Swish
My guy🤘
Love this video series
Back up for Joker. Would learn from a system ideal for him
He now is playing in Spain on mediacore team but that leauge is strong and he has beast stats so hope he can do return.
A little fun story: KD wears number 35 because of Dragan Bender.
Bender was so bad that even Maccabi was not able to used him after his return from the NBA. He's now playing in a small team in Spain
Dragan’s moment in Game of Zones is iconic. #sunkings
lmao that's the only thing that comes up to mind when I hear about Dragan
@@nuraby_9228 “DAN MAJERLE WAS TRASH, MAN!” - Vlade 😂
I remember watching dude still in Summer League coming into year 4 and he just looked completely lost out there. Never seen anything like it. Even the worst role players should gain some sort of familiarity with that much experience.
underrated channel
Was that Andy Hoops I hear in the beginning?
Heard him described as a 7 foot andrei kirilenko pre draft
Maybe if he was drafted to the spurs he would have had a decent development plan
Definitely thought this dude was going to be the next Kristaps Porzingis…you’re videos remind me why I’m not a scout lmao
Part of being a shooter is your ability to move without the ball and attack the rim since people won’t give you room to shoot. I’m sure he got away with it in Croatian/euro leagues but when you got the NBA with everyone having insane wingspans, the close outs are a lot quicker.
He did not get away with anything in the Euroleague. In fact, his Euroleague numbers exposed all you need to know about his actual abilities . He played for a single year and served as a role player coming off the bench and had issues on defense , with 10 mpg, shooting 2 ppg on 33% from the field and 25% from 3.
NBA scouts simply fell in love with his potential and ignored everything else.
covid shut down this dudes progress. he was finally getting a chance on a terrible warriors squad and he wasn’t playing horribly.
I like to pretend “Dragon Bender” is an attack in Dragon Ball, possibly by Omega Shenron.
As a Suns fan I have to. The reality of using the 4th pick to get Bender is too harsh of a reality to face.
drafting white big man at lottery is a gamble
You should do a video on Chris Andersen Birdman next
I remember him getting drafted all the hype he got! It’s a shame because he did look solid in the summer league but then I stopped hearing about him, regardless he still got the bag at least?
Love watching your videos btw fam always love listening when I’m heading to work 🫱🏾🫲🏼keep it up!
He didn't get no bag. He signed for league minimum both times after he was let go.
Ayo it’s Drake. Wassup
getting a lot of traction now. goodshit man
i think if he’s not on the disastrous suns, he becomes a rotation/spot starter
Wish this pick would’ve hit. Great vid Swish!
Bro maxed out all his stat points on his name, didn't even know that was possible
you’re right about him being a casualty of the stretch big. he just needs space that no team wants to make plays for him. warriors might have been the answer though.
The “How ___ was ___ actually” concept came from Kiiyon Kamaru!
the video is good, just makes my sleepy listening to your voice
Can you upload a How Bad Was Michael Olowokandi Actually?
can you make video for ron baker?
if they just had bender work out it could have fixed most of the problems with his game
He was good on 2k low key I remember him
please what is the beat of the beginning beat???????
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Do one on Ben Simmons
Damn i fergot all about these guy 🤦🏻♂️thanks for doing ya research bro
please do a Michael carter Williams one
All that height yet always settles for 3s and no solid post games to punish smaller players down low
35% from the floor at 7’… ouch.
I went to a suns game when I was like 10 and I thought he was really cool because of his name and he was wearing a mask that game
Not an air bender, but a dragan bender!
Hey brother just telling u that the ads turn people off on the video…
Everyone thought they were getting the next Porzingas in the next few draft classes and they were all wrong
A big that can't stretch the floor....
Tricked us all
I’m remember him in my franchise years ago
Markkanen became the player Bender should have become.
I forgot this guy existed and I forgot he was drafted so high.
Watch the Game of Zones episode about House SunKings.
Bro if he developed into an elite player, i can imagine every marketing team drooling to market this guy.
He really wasn't that bad. He was never given a consistent role or chance to grow.
WE MISS BLENDER IN MACCABI
GMs just love 7ft mfs that are very mobile and versatile. The problem with MANY young versatile prospects is that they can show promises in multiple things but they just not consistent with it. They can do a Jokic pass and the next 5 plays they lose the ball; they can do a Mutombo block but they can get dunked on 3 times; they can hit back2back 3s but miss the next 10. Versatile (unless you average 20/10/7) and super athletic high energy 2 way prospects (Josh Jackson, Stanley Johnson, Winslow, Badley) are always risky
yeah this actually makes sense. it seems like GMs only watch highlight reels
his emerald myteam card all time goated though
He was a stretch 4 who couldn’t shoot or defend on switches in the front court.
Total bust.
He was very skilled, youngest player drafted that year, was only a kid
Teams had not enough patience and it shattered his confidence
I used him in 2k and i was killing people in i think 2k18 when i played for the suns he averaged like 18
4 ppg & 2 rebounds can make you a lottery draft pick folks 🤣🤷🏾♂️
>mfw I drafted both Dragan and Thon Maker in NBA2K myGM
I made a calculated risk but man am I bad at math
Every team keeps trying to find the next Durant, or some goofy ass reason, "Unicorn". KD is a guard like big that can score in ungodly amount of ways. Porzingis was the "unicorn" but let's be real, he's a KD0.5 and is permanently injured. Dragan Bender is just one of the casualties on the way. Wembanyama looks to be KD2.0 but with a subpar scoring percentage, I doubt it.
Is this what’s going to happen to Victor Wembanyama?
No, Wembanyama isnt going to be anything less than exceptional defensively. That was never really Bender’s thing.
Hes still only 25. I hope he can turn things around
I think he's playing in one European leagues he fits the European game alot better
Dragan Bender is the reason the Suns didn't pick Luka. They were so scared of picking yet another euro bust.
Bro can you do monta Ellis? Dude was a bucket and still should be in the league
Made a pretty dog shit one on him a while ago you could check it out but it isn’t pretty lol
@@swishcountyproductions Bet. Gonna check that out
I warned you bro
@@swishcountyproductions Lmaoo bro your voice was mad different
I had this guy on my fantasy team 😭
NOw with Joker success, more and more “reaches” will appear
this is what happens when you put an overseas player who was aaaaalright into the nba and overhype him, even when he himself is saying hes not all that. im a life long suns fan but this is completely the scouts' fault
Gerald Henderson would be Dragan his balls across this guys face
It’s simple it’s different playing in Croatia 🇭🇷 or BOSNIA🇧🇦 Then playing a bunch a Big aggressive Black American players . He was overwhelmed by the bigger stronger black players in the league . He should’ve been a 2 nd round pick at best. ( Yes in ✊🏿) But don’t mean it in a racist way by any means .
I used to make this mf a 99 ovr simply bc his name was so fucking cool 💀💀💀
wemby can easily be the next bender but people dont want to talk about that
😂
Look at Bender stats before the draft. It was kinda miserable, same with Hezonja
@@christianmendoza8107 they were pretty up and down. Look at Wemby's stats when he played in a better league than he is in now. Homie barely played cause of playing bad or an injury he suffered from the physicality and overall competition being better because his body is a twig.
@@BrandonsFortune Wemby actually remind me of Bargnani imho.
@@BrandonsFortune i don't know if wemby will succeed in the nba but he is much better than dragan bender
All the talent in the world. But he always looked scared! Hes averaging 17 and 7 in Spain right now, so he might make it back to the nba
Bad situation. That Phoenix team was in hell. No coach, no system.
Yah send him somewhere with a great g league team and great coaching on both NBA/league would of done wonders for him if he could of had a season or maybe 2 in the g league to really get into the NBA style of play got some weight on could of been a lot different
every year the nba attempts to hype up a really tall guy that is capable of "doing it all". we see it often. they see a 7 foot guy who does things a 7 footer doesnt do and they get overhyped. victor is the latest overhype guy of that elk. i dont think he's gonna have this amazing career everybody is already projecting him to have. there are far too many examples of a 6'10 or taller guy coming into the league with "guard skills" and they end up quickly becoming a bust or they just become okay. its a gamble and you hope that it translates to NBA competition. i personally wont be surprised to see victor disappoint many at least in the first few years of his career. he needs more weight and we need to see him against actual NBA competition. wouldnt we all just love to create the ideal 7 footer with great ball handling and is a shot creator type of player. thats what the nba looks for every draft. its why you see guys get drafted with similar profiles to that of a victor.
I forgot about this guy
thon maker, bol bol, dragen bender and soon victor wembanyama.. all these guys were overrated for their height and skills but are not good enough.
size does not equal dominance
🤣🤣🤣🤣We call him Bandera (Lamppost) here, he was so bad.
Those leagues weren't very competitive
Lit Videos
The last Dragan Air Bender
The first Dragon Bender
I forgot about him holy shit 😭😭😭