I believe that ancestral veneration and belief in nature as an entity is the universal "religion", the original religion. It exists everywhere, and I'm so glad that these customs and ways of life is making a resurgence over organised religion. I lost my mum earlier this year, and these customs and rituals have helped me heal. I'm so glad my mother (by example) passed on our traditions. I'm so fascinated by how similar we are as humans when we go far back in time.
I believe the reason we are so much alike is that we all came out of the same city of Mesopotamia. We practiced the same traditions there for a very long time. A lot of the symbols from then we still have now; for instance, the all-seeing eye; which has always been used in almost every culture as protection from evil-just named differently by each group.
I respect your beliefs, but different groups of people have different stories as to where their people came from. The story of the Mesopotamians is just one.
In most Native Canadian cultures they say the spirits and ancestors can't taste or drink: but they can smell. So planting strawberry bushes to appease them, or offering fragrant foods is common so they can share by smelling. I think it's a lovely view of the spirit world and I think it could work well for any ancestor offering.
Thank very much!! This was incredibly helpful. It helped me contextualize, and formulate in a concrete way, what I've been feeling and trying to do. While simple, this advanced my practice!! I look forward to more videos on the ancestors, as well as land spirits.
Couldnt agree more brother - I just came across your channel and it’s rare and only literally a “couple” of heathen channels I’d watch the rest are not authentic to me - so I’m going to check out the rest of your videos and it’s nice to see a modern heathen making videos actually I feel I completely agree with good night people who just want to be Vikings and all that other type of unnecessary bullshit because they’re not really genuine heathens at heart, they are about it for all of the wrong reasons and I see right through them immediately and it sad what I feel is there much more people un-authentic than like yourself. So much respect your brother and look forward to checking out more of your videos . Shout out from Baltimore and be safe and take care brother .
Thank you so much ive practiced ancestral worship for years, however it never fell in line with traditional confucius practice as i try to follow greeko roman ancestral practice. this video has given me great comfort thank you.
thank you so much.i practice ancestral worship. i know it was practiced in greek and roman history thats what i focused on however your discussion of whiskey really helped
For those of us that have terrible relationship with the recent ancestors we must go back to those whose names are forgotten and ask them to help us and those ancestors that are unwell.
While most people wonder how to start working with ancestral spirits, I am looking for a way to completely separate myself from them and all human spirits (I only want to have other non-human beings with me)
You mention giving offerings to ancestors as a way to repair that relationship, as I understand it. But what about ancestors that exhibited dishonor, or wickedness, or some such? How do you incorporate the ancestors that brought shame into the family line, into your practice?
How would you handle yourself if you did something so wicked & dishonerable? When you know that you could proberbly copy paste that onto your ancestors. Our ancestors are not so diffrent than us afer all. I hope that that awnser was usefull…
I'm indian so my family's story's a tad different to white people and all but we used to worship our ancestors once. The story goes is the one we worshipped in the past was the first devout sikh in our family and the first one to comver to Sikhism. He instead of getting married died defending my families village. So in his name we became Sikhs. Overtime we have forgotten why we prayed to him hell this story was a guess. All we know is there's a white dome in India on my familys land where once my family worshipped. Supposedly buried beneath that is his body. We'd say sikh prayers in his name of course defeating the purpose of them but I've been in conflict over this whole tradition this worship and now that I know my parents and their parents and their parents never knew about this nor were taught about this. I feel a deep regret to losing this way of life in my family and honestly I'm planning on restarting it. Should I start my own tradition or should I revive the old one is a question I'm running in my mind now constantly
Is there a specific way you would do this? Would you speak to them as you're making an offering, is the space you put the offering in set up as an offering space - am I complicating it?
Alcohol is used to open your mind for communication with the spirits and the spirits in return are attracted to an open mind., The spirits do not drink the alcohol 😂
I am honestly not behind this word worship. Honor and respect for knowledge from deities and ancestors feels more correct for me. Maybe it is a Christian background of that flavor of worship or my atheistic past. But I have not felt called to worship so much as commune and respect through nature.
I feel that 100%. I had a strong Christian upbringing, and even though I'm pagan and speak and do things of favor type nature for deities/ancestors, and I can only do it from the mindset of a friendship/alliance type relationship as opposed to how I used to treat the Christian god, which was more like a slave/master. So I personally don't use the term "worship" myself, since my definition of the word doesn't fit my relationship or even intention. Others will grow up with different uses and exposures to words from us, but you can usually tell what they mean if you listen to how they talk about it, or you can always ask. But don't let their use of the word wreck your flow. They do them, you do you, and we are at peace
the ancestors are not only you dad, but they are also from your moms side. if you dont have a mom and dad, you can look in a mirror to see where you are from and who are kin. you kin are somewhat family. you cana lso see what culture you based on. mongol, African or what ever. sorry if my English is bad
How would do you go about healing a wound reform parental trauma that is being repeatedly reopened because they are becoming incompetent due to mental illness and a degenerative disorder?
1 - om meer mensen te kunnen bereiken 2 - ik zou graag wat er hier gebeurt, bouwen van de tempel enzo willen laten zien aan de pagans uit engeland frankrijk en amerika. 3 - 80% van de volgers van de dutch pagans instagram pagina komen uit amerika. Velen hebben hebben familie of ancestors in holland. 4 - eigenlijk zou ik willen dat de hindu’s ook zien wat hier gebeurd. dwz the return of polytheism.. dat gaat allemaal makkelijker als ik engels lul..
Ancestors will never be able to do what Jesus can do. I understand that some people truly believe in connecting with dead things. I don’t judge them, I have sympathy for them because they’re seeking fulfillment in the old and not the new. There’s no good reason to seed, water or plant anything dead. It won’t grow. Therefore, there’s no good reason to communicate with, put faith or hope in anything that’s now dead including your ancestors. There’s no growth. It’s okay to value their memory but there’s no life in worshipping, and reverencing the dead. Please read the bible and ask Jesus to give you a real authentic experience with him as the LIVING word. Once you know the living word, you’ll understand how this is just strange teaching.
10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. 11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. 12 But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.
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I believe that ancestral veneration and belief in nature as an entity is the universal "religion", the original religion. It exists everywhere, and I'm so glad that these customs and ways of life is making a resurgence over organised religion. I lost my mum earlier this year, and these customs and rituals have helped me heal. I'm so glad my mother (by example) passed on our traditions. I'm so fascinated by how similar we are as humans when we go far back in time.
I believe the reason we are so much alike is that we all came out of the same city of Mesopotamia. We practiced the same traditions there for a very long time. A lot of the symbols from then we still have now; for instance, the all-seeing eye; which has always been used in almost every culture as protection from evil-just named differently by each group.
I respect your beliefs, but different groups of people have different stories as to where their people came from. The story of the Mesopotamians is just one.
This guy is spiritually free
In most Native Canadian cultures they say the spirits and ancestors can't taste or drink: but they can smell. So planting strawberry bushes to appease them, or offering fragrant foods is common so they can share by smelling. I think it's a lovely view of the spirit world and I think it could work well for any ancestor offering.
Thank very much!! This was incredibly helpful. It helped me contextualize, and formulate in a concrete way, what I've been feeling and trying to do. While simple, this advanced my practice!! I look forward to more videos on the ancestors, as well as land spirits.
Every society does. The Honor Guard in Washington DC, stands Guard at the unknown soldiers tomb. Even if its raining on him. He stands guard unmoving.
Thanks. My maternal line is from Gelderland. I'm American. Good to see the old ways are respected in NL.
My answer is the ancestors will take it or not it's their will.
But that I offered it will make them happy
Couldnt agree more brother - I just came across your channel and it’s rare and only literally a “couple” of heathen channels I’d watch the rest are not authentic to me - so I’m going to check out the rest of your videos and it’s nice to see a modern heathen making videos actually I feel I completely agree with good night people who just want to be Vikings and all that other type of unnecessary bullshit because they’re not really genuine heathens at heart, they are about it for all of the wrong reasons and I see right through them immediately and it sad what I feel is there much more people un-authentic than like yourself. So much respect your brother and look forward to checking out more of your videos . Shout out from Baltimore and be safe and take care brother .
Thank you for those heartfely words brother.
There is no cosplaying here
I just try to balance the old ways with the here & now.
A very good video. This is the best advice I've seen so far from your channel. Heil and blessings to you and your ancestors.
Thank you so much ive practiced ancestral worship for years, however it never fell in line with traditional confucius practice as i try to follow greeko roman ancestral practice. this video has given me great comfort thank you.
Looks like I need to add this to my worship. Thanks for the insight!
thank you so much.i practice ancestral worship. i know it was practiced in greek and roman history thats what i focused on however your discussion of whiskey really helped
I came here to figure out why I was worshiping my ancestors. Thanks for making it clear to me that there is a reason.
There's nothing wrong with ancestor worship
Thanks for worshipping me
Echt goed gezegd, heel mooi bedankt voor deze mooie woorden. Ga zo door
i love your explanation! thank you! I just started 😌
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Hele goede video. Dankjewel
I shared this video on mewe, I think it's great advice.
Thanks for that little push❤️
And i’m also gonna check mewe out.
@@dutchpagans Feel free to send a friend request when you do!
Well said, my brother. You speak directly and simply...but it rings loudly of TRUTH.
For those of us that have terrible relationship with the recent ancestors we must go back to those whose names are forgotten and ask them to help us and those ancestors that are unwell.
I appreciate that you tackle the hard questions.
Love this
While most people wonder how to start working with ancestral spirits, I am looking for a way to completely separate myself from them and all human spirits (I only want to have other non-human beings with me)
Thank you for the video
Great Answer dear
You mention giving offerings to ancestors as a way to repair that relationship, as I understand it. But what about ancestors that exhibited dishonor, or wickedness, or some such? How do you incorporate the ancestors that brought shame into the family line, into your practice?
How would you handle yourself if you did something so wicked & dishonerable?
When you know that you could proberbly copy paste that onto your ancestors.
Our ancestors are not so diffrent than us afer all.
I hope that that awnser was usefull…
I'm indian so my family's story's a tad different to white people and all but we used to worship our ancestors once. The story goes is the one we worshipped in the past was the first devout sikh in our family and the first one to comver to Sikhism. He instead of getting married died defending my families village. So in his name we became Sikhs. Overtime we have forgotten why we prayed to him hell this story was a guess. All we know is there's a white dome in India on my familys land where once my family worshipped. Supposedly buried beneath that is his body. We'd say sikh prayers in his name of course defeating the purpose of them but I've been in conflict over this whole tradition this worship and now that I know my parents and their parents and their parents never knew about this nor were taught about this. I feel a deep regret to losing this way of life in my family and honestly I'm planning on restarting it. Should I start my own tradition or should I revive the old one is a question I'm running in my mind now constantly
mooi gesproken.
Is there a specific way you would do this? Would you speak to them as you're making an offering, is the space you put the offering in set up as an offering space - am I complicating it?
Absolutely
Alcohol is used to open your mind for communication with the spirits and the spirits in return are attracted to an open mind., The spirits do not drink the alcohol 😂
What is the intro song please?
Danheim - besikir
I am honestly not behind this word worship. Honor and respect for knowledge from deities and ancestors feels more correct for me. Maybe it is a Christian background of that flavor of worship or my atheistic past. But I have not felt called to worship so much as commune and respect through nature.
Veneration is mabye a more accurate word
I feel that 100%. I had a strong Christian upbringing, and even though I'm pagan and speak and do things of favor type nature for deities/ancestors, and I can only do it from the mindset of a friendship/alliance type relationship as opposed to how I used to treat the Christian god, which was more like a slave/master. So I personally don't use the term "worship" myself, since my definition of the word doesn't fit my relationship or even intention. Others will grow up with different uses and exposures to words from us, but you can usually tell what they mean if you listen to how they talk about it, or you can always ask. But don't let their use of the word wreck your flow. They do them, you do you, and we are at peace
@@theunshelter Its reverence and awe, not servitude, more like a relationship.
Christians acknowledge that prayer isn’t worship. Sacrifice is worship
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We jats in North India worship our ancestors..we made samadhi on there honor !!
Are you from rajasthan
How do you contact etc ancestors if you do not know who your father was not even a last name?
the ancestors are not only you dad, but they are also from your moms side. if you dont have a mom and dad, you can look in a mirror to see where you are from and who are kin. you kin are somewhat family. you cana lso see what culture you based on. mongol, African or what ever. sorry if my English is bad
How would do you go about healing a wound reform parental trauma that is being repeatedly reopened because they are becoming incompetent due to mental illness and a degenerative disorder?
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Dag, waarom alle video's eigenlijk in het Engels?
1 - om meer mensen te kunnen bereiken
2 - ik zou graag wat er hier gebeurt, bouwen van de tempel enzo willen laten zien aan de pagans uit engeland frankrijk en amerika.
3 - 80% van de volgers van de dutch pagans instagram pagina komen uit amerika.
Velen hebben hebben familie of ancestors in holland.
4 - eigenlijk zou ik willen dat de hindu’s ook zien wat hier gebeurd. dwz the return of polytheism.. dat gaat allemaal makkelijker als ik engels lul..
Maybe this is too profound. I bring flowers and two cream sodas.
Ancestors will never be able to do what Jesus can do. I understand that some people truly believe in connecting with dead things. I don’t judge them, I have sympathy for them because they’re seeking fulfillment in the old and not the new. There’s no good reason to seed, water or plant anything dead. It won’t grow. Therefore, there’s no good reason to communicate with, put faith or hope in anything that’s now dead including your ancestors. There’s no growth. It’s okay to value their memory but there’s no life in worshipping, and reverencing the dead. Please read the bible and ask Jesus to give you a real authentic experience with him as the LIVING word. Once you know the living word, you’ll understand how this is just strange teaching.
Hope you are good?
Please follow Jesus, God loves you
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John 8:12(KJV)
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@Deorbeorht Every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus is Lord to the glory of the Father
10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
12 But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.