It was never in the dark. CODESA was an open betrayal, but because the African are easily lied to, to accept mediocre arrengement, this then sounds like a Holy Grail. Just like the very same blackmail you are accepting today, that the market will fall if the ANC makes a coalition with the EFF or MK. Let the market fall, let them go, if their aim is to let the African child poor for more than 400 yrs. Why are South Africans prefare to be in perpertual political and economicl ICU, rather than start afresh?
Will you please get someone to translate you speech Mr. This speech need to be heard by all of us . In our languages not English only..AS IT'S I FEEL LIKE 😭😭
The sell out was deployed by the NP and white monopoly capital.Whites invested in cyril Ramaphosa for their own protection, Ramaphosa became a chief negotiator of the ANC through back door as per.plan of white monopoly capital. Ramaphosa is a deployed by white monopoly capital and is achieving his objective of reversing the gains of the liberation struggle.
If that is situation from the begining, then the Anc NEC should force Cyril to resign from the office of the President, to make way for a new leadership in the ANC.
They have been bought long time ago and then given the influencial positions in the ANC,,, your Mavuso Msimang,,Thabo Mbeki,,Tokyo Sexwale and many more who have shares in white owned companies
Concern citizen is not saying anything, and people who were in jail for long time how are they going to run government successful without any faults or failures. If Nelson Mandela gave Winnie Mandela a position in government most people would have said something negative.
Mandela in his wisdom tried to defeat the WMC's strategy when he denied Cyril to ascend to presidency but Zuma ANC made the same mistake of bringing him back in Mangaung. Today anc is going down abused by very DA in front of all of us all, its sad but good😂😂😂
For me this does not make sense, Mandela could not defeat the whole of the ANC. I mean Tambo, Hani, Niehaus, Zuma, etc. What made the rest of the ANC allow to be defeated by Morobe, Mandela and Ramaphosa? I mean this is not new in Africa, that is why there are wars and spits when a political party does not adhere to the revolutionary programme. The very same Mbeki is a sellout right now, claiming the land belongs to whote people. Niehaus is not telling the whole truth, the only voice we knew resisted the CODESA in the ANC , was that of Hani nad Winnie, the rest parised it. Niehaus pretends that there was only the voice of the ANC in the country, AZAPO and the PAC raised thier lonly voice against the betrayal of the struggle for the land and tye economy and none in the ANC supported them. Niehaus is the struggle history revisionist, you can gather all the videos where he praised the negotiations, where he praised the ANC nad its keaders, where he stood against the PAC nad AZAPO’s clarion call. He was the spoke person of Mandela. They all batrayed the masses, because the ANC had twice, more than needed votes to change the status of our people, at that time the very same Malemas were wearing R500 000 Rolex watches, the Kenny Kunenes eating sushis on the semi naked bodies of the Africans daughters. Niehaus is as guilty as Ramaphosa, so is Malema and Zuma. People forgot that the first mass murder of the workers in a democratic South Africa was done under the presidency of Zuma, Zuma even defended the police for killing his voters, using a lie that the very same mine bosses and the police used to justify the murder of the rightful owners of this land and the economy, the Marikana Mine Workers, that they were attacking the police. When the fact was that they were moving away from the Koppies as agreed upon by the police and the mine workers, through the negotiations held between the AMCU boss, cde Mathunjwa and the Senior Police incharge. Today even the EFF conviniently blames Ramaphosa for that massacre and not the then president and his police minister, as it is traditionally has been done all the years of our struggle. Yes Ramaphosa had a very significant role in the death of the Marikana workers, but not as significant as that of the then sitting president and his police minister, they were the authorities who gave the word and defended the massarce. Ramaphosa was not even in the government then, Zuma and Mthethwa could have ignored his email. The Marikana Massacre is a good example how South Africans are willing to allow those in leadership allow what they saw with their eyes be revised, no wonder you all fall to the tintilized verson of Niehus as a holy grail, when he picks and choses facts and not tell us what his role and benefits were during the collective sell-out. We only heard of Niehaus’s voice of opposition during the ANC,s faction fights, choosing the side that took a former taxi assistance, Khulubuse Zuma to become an owner of mines, just because he is a nephew of the then president. The side whose leader vehemently confesses that he was no different to other corrupt leaders of the ANC, “…ngenzeni engenziwanga ngabanye…” All these parties that today claims to be fighting for the African child, your EFFs and your MKs are the product of the very same leadership that is directly and indirectly guilty of betraying the struggle. ‘Now because they were not part of the invited people in the dinner table that serves South Africa in a platter, pretends to be better than Ramaphosa. The leaders of the EFF and the MK are part of the past selling out of our struggle, they agreed with Ramaphosa, Mandela, Mbeki in not negotiating for the land and the economy in CODESA. Stop pretending that this was not the collective sell-out programme. The only two leaders that were vocal against the sell-out were Hani and Winnie Mandela, trust them at your own peril.
Yes but now we need cainch and these people like zumas malemas they want to correct for there mistakes the only way to make it right is to come forward and tell the truth and there will be forgiveniss but to go on with it can now destroy the anc as you guys admit that is truth no matter they was part of it but the truth will set us all free one day and the time is now so anc you know what you were doing was wrong so pls come together all these small black partys came from you if ramaphoza didnt listen to the majority then he must go how can he be one of south africa richest now you all must face it every uneducated person will know the truth if these people goes on with shellout the anc its very bad its like they know the anc will fall because the capitalis payed you to destroy the anc you must call a general meeting to short out this mess to safe the anc or otherwise there will be nomore anc and there will be no other choice for the shellouts but to rather join the oppressors that they called gnu they also have enoght now and dump the poor this sound bad but theres still time maybee days ours to make this right
How are black people to blame when they are kept in the dark. Politicians playing games with our lives, and you are here blaming black people for the election results. FOH
What is hidden in the dark will come to light. You have done a great job in unmasking this rat/agent in the ANC.
It was never in the dark. CODESA was an open betrayal, but because the African are easily lied to, to accept mediocre arrengement, this then sounds like a Holy Grail. Just like the very same blackmail you are accepting today, that the market will fall if the ANC makes a coalition with the EFF or MK.
Let the market fall, let them go, if their aim is to let the African child poor for more than 400 yrs. Why are South Africans prefare to be in perpertual political and economicl ICU, rather than start afresh?
Pretending that they are fighting. Done deal😂😂😂
Will you please get someone to translate you speech Mr. This speech need to be heard by all of us . In our languages not English only..AS IT'S I FEEL LIKE 😭😭
Nothing more than this truth.
This is truth words
Nangu umlungu wakhuluma ekhuluma indaba enkulu kunjalo wemalungu
💔💔💔😭😭😭😭
Wow 😮
Ramaphosa was groomed to be a puppet, now we know the truth.
I have always thought that President Ramaphosa had been planted within the ANC.
He was groomed for this mission.
True long planed strategy
Mandela was the weakest link
Truth hurts
The sell out was deployed by the NP and white monopoly capital.Whites invested in cyril Ramaphosa for their own protection, Ramaphosa became a chief negotiator of the ANC through back door as per.plan of white monopoly capital. Ramaphosa is a deployed by white monopoly capital and is achieving his objective of reversing the gains of the liberation struggle.
Actually Ramaphosa is working with DA through ANC to privatize Government its all about business they rule everthing even the law we are sold
If that is situation from the begining, then the Anc NEC should force Cyril to resign from the office of the President, to make way for a new leadership in the ANC.
Bayamoyika
Why is the ANC veterans and NEC members not recalling him? Are they bought as well?
Good point!👍
That is indeed the case.
They have been bought long time ago and then given the influencial positions in the ANC,,, your Mavuso Msimang,,Thabo Mbeki,,Tokyo Sexwale and many more who have shares in white owned companies
Concern citizen is not saying anything, and people who were in jail for long time how are they going to run government successful without any faults or failures.
If Nelson Mandela gave Winnie Mandela a position in government most people would have said something negative.
Mandela in his wisdom tried to defeat the WMC's strategy when he denied Cyril to ascend to presidency but Zuma ANC made the same mistake of bringing him back in Mangaung. Today anc is going down abused by very DA in front of all of us all, its sad but good😂😂😂
Ramaphosa was brought by anc executive to Zuma and was fed Ramaphosa till accepted him since Zuma was still looking for the DP.
Wow, black blood shaded for nothing. JZ is the legitimate president of South Africa, JZ is the true revolutionary
Old people voted ANC
Old people kahle bo laphi khona?
ungadlali ngathi wena I ANC ayisafunwa ngisho izinkukhu lezi
It is good to work together.
How can an opposer advice a ruler 😮
Keep on breaking SA.....
Btw Mr Nohouse should drop his DA accent!
😂
Sellout
For me this does not make sense, Mandela could not defeat the whole of the ANC. I mean Tambo, Hani, Niehaus, Zuma, etc. What made the rest of the ANC allow to be defeated by Morobe, Mandela and Ramaphosa?
I mean this is not new in Africa, that is why there are wars and spits when a political party does not adhere to the revolutionary programme. The very same Mbeki is a sellout right now, claiming the land belongs to whote people.
Niehaus is not telling the whole truth, the only voice we knew resisted the CODESA in the ANC , was that of Hani nad Winnie, the rest parised it.
Niehaus pretends that there was only the voice of the ANC in the country, AZAPO and the PAC raised thier lonly voice against the betrayal of the struggle for the land and tye economy and none in the ANC supported them.
Niehaus is the struggle history revisionist, you can gather all the videos where he praised the negotiations, where he praised the ANC nad its keaders, where he stood against the PAC nad AZAPO’s clarion call. He was the spoke person of Mandela.
They all batrayed the masses, because the ANC had twice, more than needed votes to change the status of our people, at that time the very same Malemas were wearing R500 000 Rolex watches, the Kenny Kunenes eating sushis on the semi naked bodies of the Africans daughters. Niehaus is as guilty as Ramaphosa, so is Malema and Zuma.
People forgot that the first mass murder of the workers in a democratic South Africa was done under the presidency of Zuma, Zuma even defended the police for killing his voters, using a lie that the very same mine bosses and the police used to justify the murder of the rightful owners of this land and the economy, the Marikana Mine Workers, that they were attacking the police.
When the fact was that they were moving away from the Koppies as agreed upon by the police and the mine workers, through the negotiations held between the AMCU boss, cde Mathunjwa and the Senior Police incharge.
Today even the EFF conviniently blames Ramaphosa for that massacre and not the then president and his police minister, as it is traditionally has been done all the years of our struggle.
Yes Ramaphosa had a very significant role in the death of the Marikana workers, but not as significant as that of the then sitting president and his police minister, they were the authorities who gave the word and defended the massarce. Ramaphosa was not even in the government then, Zuma and Mthethwa could have ignored his email.
The Marikana Massacre is a good example how South Africans are willing to allow those in leadership allow what they saw with their eyes be revised, no wonder you all fall to the tintilized verson of Niehus as a holy grail, when he picks and choses facts and not tell us what his role and benefits were during the collective sell-out.
We only heard of Niehaus’s voice of opposition during the ANC,s faction fights, choosing the side that took a former taxi assistance, Khulubuse Zuma to become an owner of mines, just because he is a nephew of the then president.
The side whose leader vehemently confesses that he was no different to other corrupt leaders of the ANC, “…ngenzeni engenziwanga ngabanye…”
All these parties that today claims to be fighting for the African child, your EFFs and your MKs are the product of the very same leadership that is directly and indirectly guilty of betraying the struggle.
‘Now because they were not part of the invited people in the dinner table that serves South Africa in a platter, pretends to be better than Ramaphosa.
The leaders of the EFF and the MK are part of the past selling out of our struggle, they agreed with Ramaphosa, Mandela, Mbeki in not negotiating for the land and the economy in CODESA. Stop pretending that this was not the collective sell-out programme.
The only two leaders that were vocal against the sell-out were Hani and Winnie Mandela, trust them at your own peril.
Yes but now we need cainch and these people like zumas malemas they want to correct for there mistakes the only way to make it right is to come forward and tell the truth and there will be forgiveniss but to go on with it can now destroy the anc as you guys admit that is truth no matter they was part of it but the truth will set us all free one day and the time is now so anc you know what you were doing was wrong so pls come together all these small black partys came from you if ramaphoza didnt listen to the majority then he must go how can he be one of south africa richest now you all must face it every uneducated person will know the truth if these people goes on with shellout the anc its very bad its like they know the anc will fall because the capitalis payed you to destroy the anc you must call a general meeting to short out this mess to safe the anc or otherwise there will be nomore anc and there will be no other choice for the shellouts but to rather join the oppressors that they called gnu they also have enoght now and dump the poor this sound bad but theres still time maybee days ours to make this right
Exactly, but miraculously, Ramaphosa does.
Black people are the ones who voted & love DA.So how is Ramaphosa a sell out..We are the ones bringing apartheid back into being by voting them
How are black people to blame when they are kept in the dark. Politicians playing games with our lives, and you are here blaming black people for the election results. FOH
SLIMA ESLIMELE
What about voteriggng
Mandela is not our God, and don't tell us about your made up Mandela
Why now? He also knows SOMETHING about everyone, so please stop acting like you are clean
PERIOD!