I will also add an old band trick, which is to end the song with a hard hit on the first beat of a measure… On the one… Count the 2,3,4 in your head, and start the next song on the one. The next song does not have to be at exactly the same tempo, close is better. It’s an odd myth, in electronic music that all songs must continuously run into each other. This doesn’t have to be the case. Although there are some bands that play 45 minute medleys, it’s much more likely that a band would start a song play it and then finish it to keep momentum in a set live musicians start the next song. and I think one way to do this, just to make sure that the songs have distinctive endings and starts……..
Definitely! It also depends on the vibe you're going for with a set, and whether it's live audience, recorded or a set for socials/youtube. Seamless transitions are a nice way to keep the flow going, but live there's also merit to giving some breathing room like a band.
There is also another method that I like. This is by taking your stems and chopping your stems into sections. Typically it song may have four sections: an introduction; verse;chorus ; and an outro, for example. I think having four stems (kick,drums, bass, melodics) makes a lot of sense, and allows you to create a lot of variation, and also affect different parts of your song with different effect buses. Then, if you put all of these pads into one shot mode, you can use very simple patterns to start them in pattern mode. This, of course, allows you to vamp on any part of this song that you would like, by muting parts, and switching between sections. The advantage of launching via pattern mode is that it is quantized by the length of the pattern so for example, you can trigger your outro pattern and then once it gets started. And then, at the right time triggered the intro pattern for the next song. The big advantage that the pattern sequencer gives you, is it it gives you time before it launches the next pattern. And even when it does lunch, the samples from the old song will play on, so for example, you can bake in a long fade out in the outro of the first song and then use a fax to bring in the next song. Well, the first one slowly starts to fade out.
Great job! Thank you for taking the time to do this. I was wondering if you have also noticed that the sound quality of the samples/stems drops a bit once you load them into the SP? Also, have you tried controlling bus 2 and master fx with the digitakt's midi tracks? I always wanted to try it but I suck at midi :P
Cheers! What do you mean by sound quality, like a bit rate reduction? I've never noticed any negative impact when moving stems to the SP. If anything, the Bus 3 & 4 fx makes it a little more pleasantly saturated and warm... though that's also due to the fx I use on 3 & 4. Regarding digitakt midi cc, I haven't yet, but that's something I was discussing with the chat in my latest livestream. It's definitely on the agenda to look into and cover! I'm a bit backed up with videos due to having the flu for the last week, but it's definitely something I'll be covering in the next 1-2 months :)
Yeah I mean like bit reduction. I'm surprised not many people are noticing it. Maybe it's just me.. anyways, looking forward to your next videos! Wish you get well soon. Thanks again for contributing to the community :)@@sunwarper
I really enjoy this perspective on the 404. I think the conversation should shift towards it being used as a live performance tool instead of a groovebox.
The thing I love about the SP is it's rather versatile and can do pretty much whatever you want on it. For beatmaking, the sequencer might be limited at times, but it's still quite powerful and definitely awesome for adding in fx and what not. It's definitely an amazing sampler for live performance as well.
I think chromatic mode has a dedicated midi channel. so with a midi keyboard set to this channel you have easy access to the chromatic mode of the active pad. seems like a good way to integrate some additional hardware to a live-set.
That would be huge, I'm actually not sure if chromatic has a dedicated MIDI channel, I'll look into it and cover it in an updated video or short at some point with my findings. Thanks for mentioning it!
@@sunwarper I tried it out and it works! Midi channel 16 is the chromatic mode. and the last pad you entered into chromatic mode on the sp stays assigned to the midi channel 16. Meaning you can exit the chromatic mode on the sp and play other pads while still being able to play chromatic mode from the external midi keyboard. It‘s awsome🔥
Question! I'm very new to the SP404. If i want to use this live for backing tracks and a click, I understand i can send the signal out to the PA to be heard (I assume there is an opportunity to only have the click track play through my headphones and not also the PA? I believe the SPD One wav pad allows this...) But thats not my main question! lol... The question is, would I be able to have a sound guy run the audio (live vocals, guitar, etc.) into the SP404 and then into my headphones so I could also hear whats going on live and not just the backing tracks and click? Essentially trying to find a way to play to a click with backing tracks, have the click in my ears only and not through the PA, and be able to just plug my in ears into the sp404 and hear the backing track, click, AND the live sounds from the PA... :)
There's a few questions there, so 1: yes you can send the click through the headphone only. I talk about it a bit in this video on the new looper they added on the SP (basically it's in the "click" setting in the utility menu): th-cam.com/video/7IkmlAMuicA/w-d-xo.html 2: Regarding your main question, I'm not exactly sure what it is you're trying to achieve, sorry. You can have sound come in through the line in, but to hear it and to have it go out, you'd have to have the external source enabled. There's no way to send specific sounds to just headphones or something. Not sure if that answers the question, If not, email me at the email in my bio if you're looking for lessons about the SP and all of the things it can do.
I will also add an old band trick, which is to end the song with a hard hit on the first beat of a measure… On the one… Count the 2,3,4 in your head, and start the next song on the one. The next song does not have to be at exactly the same tempo, close is better. It’s an odd myth, in electronic music that all songs must continuously run into each other. This doesn’t have to be the case. Although there are some bands that play 45 minute medleys, it’s much more likely that a band would start a song play it and then finish it to keep momentum in a set live musicians start the next song. and I think one way to do this, just to make sure that the songs have distinctive endings and starts……..
Definitely! It also depends on the vibe you're going for with a set, and whether it's live audience, recorded or a set for socials/youtube. Seamless transitions are a nice way to keep the flow going, but live there's also merit to giving some breathing room like a band.
Great video, thanks mate!
Cheers, hope it helps 😄
a lot of very useful tips. thanks bruv
Cheers, hope it helps!
There is also another method that I like. This is by taking your stems and chopping your stems into sections. Typically it song may have four sections: an introduction; verse;chorus ; and an outro, for example. I think having four stems (kick,drums, bass, melodics) makes a lot of sense, and allows you to create a lot of variation, and also affect different parts of your song with different effect buses. Then, if you put all of these pads into one shot mode, you can use very simple patterns to start them in pattern mode. This, of course, allows you to vamp on any part of this song that you would like, by muting parts, and switching between sections. The advantage of launching via pattern mode is that it is quantized by the length of the pattern so for example, you can trigger your outro pattern and then once it gets started. And then, at the right time triggered the intro pattern for the next song. The big advantage that the pattern sequencer gives you, is it it gives you time before it launches the next pattern. And even when it does lunch, the samples from the old song will play on, so for example, you can bake in a long fade out in the outro of the first song and then use a fax to bring in the next song. Well, the first one slowly starts to fade out.
That is brilliant, it's a nice combination of track sample chop, stem separation and patterns!
@@sunwarper sorry about the voice translation. 🙄
Thanks for the tips Sunwarper! always very good work and very good music, greetings!
Thanks for watching my friend, hope it helps :)
Great Video. Inspired some good ideas!
Cheers, happy to hear it helped 😄
Great job! Thank you for taking the time to do this. I was wondering if you have also noticed that the sound quality of the samples/stems drops a bit once you load them into the SP? Also, have you tried controlling bus 2 and master fx with the digitakt's midi tracks? I always wanted to try it but I suck at midi :P
Cheers! What do you mean by sound quality, like a bit rate reduction? I've never noticed any negative impact when moving stems to the SP. If anything, the Bus 3 & 4 fx makes it a little more pleasantly saturated and warm... though that's also due to the fx I use on 3 & 4.
Regarding digitakt midi cc, I haven't yet, but that's something I was discussing with the chat in my latest livestream. It's definitely on the agenda to look into and cover! I'm a bit backed up with videos due to having the flu for the last week, but it's definitely something I'll be covering in the next 1-2 months :)
Yeah I mean like bit reduction. I'm surprised not many people are noticing it. Maybe it's just me.. anyways, looking forward to your next videos! Wish you get well soon. Thanks again for contributing to the community :)@@sunwarper
I really enjoy this perspective on the 404. I think the conversation should shift towards it being used as a live performance tool instead of a groovebox.
The thing I love about the SP is it's rather versatile and can do pretty much whatever you want on it. For beatmaking, the sequencer might be limited at times, but it's still quite powerful and definitely awesome for adding in fx and what not. It's definitely an amazing sampler for live performance as well.
Fire. Thanks dude
Appreciate it, hope it helps :)
great videos!
Cheers!
I think chromatic mode has a dedicated midi channel. so with a midi keyboard set to this channel you have easy access to the chromatic mode of the active pad. seems like a good way to integrate some additional hardware to a live-set.
That would be huge, I'm actually not sure if chromatic has a dedicated MIDI channel, I'll look into it and cover it in an updated video or short at some point with my findings. Thanks for mentioning it!
@@sunwarper I tried it out and it works! Midi channel 16 is the chromatic mode. and the last pad you entered into chromatic mode on the sp stays assigned to the midi channel 16. Meaning you can exit the chromatic mode on the sp and play other pads while still being able to play chromatic mode from the external midi keyboard. It‘s awsome🔥
Ps great video and super helpful. I’m a member now because of it!
Awesome! Thank you! 😊
You should do a video like this but teaching different types of workflows to create a track. Greetings from colombia
Cheers! That's a great idea and definitely something I'm planning to cover in the next few months 😄
Question! I'm very new to the SP404. If i want to use this live for backing tracks and a click, I understand i can send the signal out to the PA to be heard (I assume there is an opportunity to only have the click track play through my headphones and not also the PA? I believe the SPD One wav pad allows this...) But thats not my main question! lol... The question is, would I be able to have a sound guy run the audio (live vocals, guitar, etc.) into the SP404 and then into my headphones so I could also hear whats going on live and not just the backing tracks and click?
Essentially trying to find a way to play to a click with backing tracks, have the click in my ears only and not through the PA, and be able to just plug my in ears into the sp404 and hear the backing track, click, AND the live sounds from the PA... :)
There's a few questions there, so 1: yes you can send the click through the headphone only. I talk about it a bit in this video on the new looper they added on the SP (basically it's in the "click" setting in the utility menu): th-cam.com/video/7IkmlAMuicA/w-d-xo.html
2: Regarding your main question, I'm not exactly sure what it is you're trying to achieve, sorry. You can have sound come in through the line in, but to hear it and to have it go out, you'd have to have the external source enabled. There's no way to send specific sounds to just headphones or something. Not sure if that answers the question, If not, email me at the email in my bio if you're looking for lessons about the SP and all of the things it can do.
Hello! I really like your videos but please you've got so many device, could you use a mic 😊?
Glad you’re digging the videos. I use a blue yeti🎙️