I appreciate the fact that their mechs have custom loadouts. To me it signals that their machines are old, and have been upgraded and personalized over the course of their life
They are old. Some machines are known to be passed down in families. Most designs are hundreds of years old, having variants that have had to adapt to the loss of technology
Yeah. Also, they are mercs - no standardized logistics to guarantee the right replacements or force them to stick to the official loadout. Note that each mech is also altered in a way that makes it less reliant on support from others - the rifleman is still the team sniper, with the gauss, but the offside has a RAC/UAC for that crit/pierce mix and keeping the hurt up as distance closes. The hunchie is still the up close brawler, but has AMS, MG's for keeping the infantry away, and an AC10 instead of the big old 20.
@@Eserchie I always felt the loadouts were intended to reflect a lack of long distance logistical support. Hence why the Rifleman has two different guns with two different ammo types.
Or better summed up with the SAME principle as Catapult Variant making: -If it Fits? It Works! -If it Works? DO IT. -Fuck you it's a Catapult -YOU'RE NOT MY MOM, I DO WHAT I WANT.
Tex is a private guy. He doesn't see him self as anything but a whiskey aged voice in the choir. His head is average size, and not over inflated. Its part of why we love him. He is an everyman, a calming voice in the storm, and level headed. @RenegadeHPG talked to the hired steel guys and got some insight, along with a watch party with the thosew two and a producer on the old BattleTech cartoon, Sam Lewis.
They're meant to be mercs, which means their 'mech loadouts are mainly determined by what they can afford, what is available, and what works. If it fits, it works. If it works, then it's not stupid.
I gotta say, i really like the "slower" intros of Hired Steel, especially the ones that give you some interesting details - such as the fact that in Episode 1 we could see who Equis Lanceis working for - the Lohengrin.
I think the Shadow Hawk is meant to be a UAC, as can be seen in its lower rate of fire and the UAC name when in cockpit view. Likely just reusing assets
The thing I loved about this series is the military jargon they added. Too many of these fan films of war games leave that out. The other funny thing is I think I disagreed with every climatic take you had on the movie 😄
All of Eques lance have custom builds 1 the shadowhawk is Ultra 5, 2x SRM6, 2x ML, AMS 2 the Catapult is I think 2x LRM20 and a bunch of vehicular grenade launchers for smoke 3 the Rifleman runs Gauss and Ultra 5 plus 2x medium lasers 4 the Hunchback has AC10, 2x machine guns, 2x medium lasers, some kind of oneshot ams flak launcher, and possibly ferro fibrous armor and/or claws I'm pretty sure at least a couple of them have to be running XL engines to fit all that equipment.
Possibly endo steel and double heatsinks as well. Hard to say. The Helm Memory Core was discovered in 3028 and if I remember right this series takes place in 3041 so that's 13 years to start producing SLDF tech. Plus you never know what merc companies discover as they go from place to place. Especially when a merc company has a generous gm and lets them come across an sldf cache once or twice before that stuff starts getting produced again.
A few points my slime bro: 1. The prologue introduces us to the mechs and equis lance. Ep. 1 is simply the start of the story, if you will. 2. The lizard and grasshopper scene in ep. 2 was, imo, foreshadowing (much with the quote about the atlas in ep 3). 3. All the mechs seem to be custom builds.
Thanks for doing the reaction video for the Hired Steel series. The company making it deserves the attention and the attendant business opportunities. They recently got hired to do a promo trailer for the MW 5 Clan expansion, it looks great. I'm patiently waiting for #4.
@@nerdyOveranalyzed thanks. I’ve been practicing painting on some Wildspire fantasy figures I got last year for Christmas before I start painting Battletech Mech, but I can’t wait to get some. Thinking about the Commstar Command level II pack, because of the Black Knight and the Krab. I also want to get a Hunchback eventually.
Small correction but the Rifleman seems to be running a Gauss Rifle (you can tell by the shape of the barrel and by the effect when it fires) and either a UAC or RAC (as you stated).
One more thing I realized that I appreciate is the older Thunderbolt has MechWarrior 3 sound effects, while the newer mechs have more recent sound effects
Fun collab! Have you showed her the opening cutscenes for the older Mechwarrior games? Fuusushi would like the two openings from Mechwarrior 3 or the Mechwarrior 4: Vengeance cinematic
With that opening speech in part 3, I'm honestly theorizing that the next part or so that we'll be seeing a glimpse of the Atlas or perhaps the King Crab, which was another Mech requested by Kerensky. Either Mech would make for an amazing encounter.
Have her watch the intro do the HBS battletech... history of the rise and fall of the Star League and the beginning of the succession wars in under 5 min!
Pretty sure the Shadowhawk is rocking a UAC 5 and not a RAC. As for the Rifleman, I'm fairly certain that it's got a RAC 2 or poss. a RAC 5 and a Gauss Rifle in the other 'arm'. Hunchie is probably a AC/10 and some AP machine guns to go with the arm mounted Medium Lasers.
Just FYI, the autocannon on the Shadowhawk was misidentified. TMC said that it was a RAC, or ROTORY autocannon, and yes, the one in the rifleman's right arm was probably a RAC2, but that's pretty much a reinvention of the IRL 20mm Vulcan cannon as the main gun equipped to modern fighter jets. Rather, I think that the cannon in the shadowhawk's shoulder is a UAC5, as it hit with a greater impact, fired in a 3-round burst, and only had 3 barrels, while MWO (MechWarrior Online) shows a RAC2 as having 6 barrels and a RAC5 as having 4. I was also wishing that Baradul would be in this, and he's Eques 3, the Rifleman pilot. Most of what he makes is BattleTech related content, like modded lets plays of the BattleTech turn-based game and MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries, along with an MWO match that highlights the strengths of a crazy mech build. You can probably tell that it's him because of the combination of his distinctly German accent and a nearly 40cm long beard that's been styled to have every 5cm gathered and bunched up into a sort of bead made out of hair.
I’m pretty sure that the mechs use IS lostech and that the ACa are UAC5s, instead of RAC5s. MW5 and MWO ultra autocannons look like that, and I think the Shadow Hawk and Rifleman don’t have the tonnage for RACs
Pretty much all the autocannons have different variables depending on manufacture and model. Caliber, velocity, weight of projectile, number of projects per salvo, etc. The game abstracts all these variables into the four class with single values. This is one of the reasons why mechs use the same manufacture the same weapon class on a unit. To keep the performance consist.
I don't remember where exactly, but I'm pretty sure I remember seeing one of the creators of hired steel being asked about the AC/RAC question and stating that it was supposed to be a a UAC/5
That's not a RAC. In the board game lore, ACs are rapid-fire by design. The RAC is a beefed up version of that. Don't let the video games fool you! And, Mechs should be a little more nimble than being depicted, too.
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I appreciate the fact that their mechs have custom loadouts. To me it signals that their machines are old, and have been upgraded and personalized over the course of their life
They are old. Some machines are known to be passed down in families. Most designs are hundreds of years old, having variants that have had to adapt to the loss of technology
Yeah. Also, they are mercs - no standardized logistics to guarantee the right replacements or force them to stick to the official loadout. Note that each mech is also altered in a way that makes it less reliant on support from others - the rifleman is still the team sniper, with the gauss, but the offside has a RAC/UAC for that crit/pierce mix and keeping the hurt up as distance closes. The hunchie is still the up close brawler, but has AMS, MG's for keeping the infantry away, and an AC10 instead of the big old 20.
@@Eserchie I always felt the loadouts were intended to reflect a lack of long distance logistical support. Hence why the Rifleman has two different guns with two different ammo types.
Or better summed up with the SAME principle as Catapult Variant making:
-If it Fits? It Works!
-If it Works? DO IT.
-Fuck you it's a Catapult
-YOU'RE NOT MY MOM, I DO WHAT I WANT.
Tex is a private guy. He doesn't see him self as anything but a whiskey aged voice in the choir. His head is average size, and not over inflated. Its part of why we love him. He is an everyman, a calming voice in the storm, and level headed.
@RenegadeHPG talked to the hired steel guys and got some insight, along with a watch party with the thosew two and a producer on the old BattleTech cartoon, Sam Lewis.
IIRc, Sam really enjoyed the short especially with some of the newer tech like the AMS missiles and the UAV
They're meant to be mercs, which means their 'mech loadouts are mainly determined by what they can afford, what is available, and what works.
If it fits, it works. If it works, then it's not stupid.
I gotta say, i really like the "slower" intros of Hired Steel, especially the ones that give you some interesting details - such as the fact that in Episode 1 we could see who Equis Lanceis working for - the Lohengrin.
I think the Shadow Hawk is meant to be a UAC, as can be seen in its lower rate of fire and the UAC name when in cockpit view. Likely just reusing assets
The thing I loved about this series is the military jargon they added. Too many of these fan films of war games leave that out.
The other funny thing is I think I disagreed with every climatic take you had on the movie 😄
All of Eques lance have custom builds
1 the shadowhawk is Ultra 5, 2x SRM6, 2x ML, AMS
2 the Catapult is I think 2x LRM20 and a bunch of vehicular grenade launchers for smoke
3 the Rifleman runs Gauss and Ultra 5 plus 2x medium lasers
4 the Hunchback has AC10, 2x machine guns, 2x medium lasers, some kind of oneshot ams flak launcher, and possibly ferro fibrous armor and/or claws
I'm pretty sure at least a couple of them have to be running XL engines to fit all that equipment.
Possibly endo steel and double heatsinks as well. Hard to say. The Helm Memory Core was discovered in 3028 and if I remember right this series takes place in 3041 so that's 13 years to start producing SLDF tech. Plus you never know what merc companies discover as they go from place to place. Especially when a merc company has a generous gm and lets them come across an sldf cache once or twice before that stuff starts getting produced again.
10:21 while most units do have parade colors. They very rarely go into battle with them. In combat, they will use appropriate camouflage.
The establishing Shops of hired Steel are great. They let you dive in to the universe way more than instant action.
A few points my slime bro:
1. The prologue introduces us to the mechs and equis lance. Ep. 1 is simply the start of the story, if you will.
2. The lizard and grasshopper scene in ep. 2 was, imo, foreshadowing (much with the quote about the atlas in ep 3).
3. All the mechs seem to be custom builds.
yeet! I didn't know there was a prologue! I still think for TH-cam its better to be very clear. Might be okay with a movie setting thing though.
The prologue started with the dropship and the mechs and the Rifleman has a Gauss Rifle.
Ahhh!
Tex is always a treat.
"Tex is a Lanceleader in a Hunchback ?" XD you shall not blindly trust the Chat ^^
Thanks for doing the reaction video for the Hired Steel series. The company making it deserves the attention and the attendant business opportunities. They recently got hired to do a promo trailer for the MW 5 Clan expansion, it looks great. I'm patiently waiting for #4.
As someone who just got into Battletech last week, and just watched Hired Steel two days ago, this is a heck of an awesome coincidence.
Ayy, welcome to the hobby!
@@nerdyOveranalyzed thanks. I’ve been practicing painting on some Wildspire fantasy figures I got last year for Christmas before I start painting Battletech Mech, but I can’t wait to get some. Thinking about the Commstar Command level II pack, because of the Black Knight and the Krab. I also want to get a Hunchback eventually.
Small correction but the Rifleman seems to be running a Gauss Rifle (you can tell by the shape of the barrel and by the effect when it fires) and either a UAC or RAC (as you stated).
Pretty sure it's a uac. I think this is post-helm but pre-clan
Edit: beginning of part 1 says 3041
Oh okay!
According to Baradul, the Rifleman has a Gauss Rifle and a Rac 5.
The Shadowhawk has an UAC5 and SRM 12 tubes.
These collab streams are always really great :)
I always have fun with them!
One more thing I realized that I appreciate is the older Thunderbolt has MechWarrior 3 sound effects, while the newer mechs have more recent sound effects
2's opening was a reference to the previous episode. It was not a moth, but a locust being eaten.
Oh lol. I seeeee
@@nerdyOveranalyzed Not the most observant today, are ya? :P
Fun collab! Have you showed her the opening cutscenes for the older Mechwarrior games? Fuusushi would like the two openings from Mechwarrior 3 or the Mechwarrior 4: Vengeance cinematic
Mechwarrior 3 slapped hard. It had one of the most realistic briefings from not only a Mechwarrior/Battletech game, but military games in general.
Now i really would like you to play a Megamek narrative campaign were Sushi plays the Protagonists and you the OpFor Otto!
lol. Maybe mechwarrior 5 or something. We'd have to see!
With that opening speech in part 3, I'm honestly theorizing that the next part or so that we'll be seeing a glimpse of the Atlas or perhaps the King Crab, which was another Mech requested by Kerensky. Either Mech would make for an amazing encounter.
Given this is all over an old Star League depot. Could be there's an Atlas II in there being brought online.
Have her watch the intro do the HBS battletech... history of the rise and fall of the Star League and the beginning of the succession wars in under 5 min!
IIRC Iron Land is Apollo Province former Rim Worlds Republic, its right next to butte hold on the Lyran Border. EDIT: Part 1 says its 3041
Pretty sure the Shadowhawk is rocking a UAC 5 and not a RAC. As for the Rifleman, I'm fairly certain that it's got a RAC 2 or poss. a RAC 5 and a Gauss Rifle in the other 'arm'. Hunchie is probably a AC/10 and some AP machine guns to go with the arm mounted Medium Lasers.
The Catapult and Rifleman I recognized immediately the first time I saw this, are the other two mechs they use both Hunchbacks?
Just FYI, the autocannon on the Shadowhawk was misidentified. TMC said that it was a RAC, or ROTORY autocannon, and yes, the one in the rifleman's right arm was probably a RAC2, but that's pretty much a reinvention of the IRL 20mm Vulcan cannon as the main gun equipped to modern fighter jets. Rather, I think that the cannon in the shadowhawk's shoulder is a UAC5, as it hit with a greater impact, fired in a 3-round burst, and only had 3 barrels, while MWO (MechWarrior Online) shows a RAC2 as having 6 barrels and a RAC5 as having 4. I was also wishing that Baradul would be in this, and he's Eques 3, the Rifleman pilot. Most of what he makes is BattleTech related content, like modded lets plays of the BattleTech turn-based game and MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries, along with an MWO match that highlights the strengths of a crazy mech build. You can probably tell that it's him because of the combination of his distinctly German accent and a nearly 40cm long beard that's been styled to have every 5cm gathered and bunched up into a sort of bead made out of hair.
I’m pretty sure that the mechs use IS lostech and that the ACa are UAC5s, instead of RAC5s. MW5 and MWO ultra autocannons look like that, and I think the Shadow Hawk and Rifleman don’t have the tonnage for RACs
So you'd take on that thunderbolt from range? Good idea. Might be a good idea to disable it's LRMs first.
lol, thanks for letting me know!
From the looks of that Rifle man, one gun arm is with a RAC 5 and the other one may be a light gauss rifle not an AC5.
It's not a RAC. Regular Autocannons have always been burst fire weapons in lore and if the game treats them as single shot weapons.
Pretty sure it says RAC on it.
have they?
@@nerdyOveranalyzedAC5s definitely; Riflemen and Dragons fire five-round bursts, Wolverines fire three
Pretty much all the autocannons have different variables depending on manufacture and model. Caliber, velocity, weight of projectile, number of projects per salvo, etc. The game abstracts all these variables into the four class with single values. This is one of the reasons why mechs use the same manufacture the same weapon class on a unit. To keep the performance consist.
I don't remember where exactly, but I'm pretty sure I remember seeing one of the creators of hired steel being asked about the AC/RAC question and stating that it was supposed to be a a UAC/5
Regarding the year, the opening says it is 3041.
wat D:
Deadly combo, Nerdy and Sushi.
:)
Nice video reaction!!!
Nerdy, you skipped episode zero, where their dropship brings them down to the planet.
Slime advisor on head, could be good except the mechwarrior wouldn't be able to wear a neurohelmet.
I'll sit in a small cup next to your coffee!
Or you could start with the actual first episode
no
Opening few seconds - I am far more triggered by the claims that a black templar is battletech than by any presence of furries
I mean, Canopus exists after all and they got some cybernetic shenanigans that'd impress even Night City
That's not a RAC. In the board game lore, ACs are rapid-fire by design. The RAC is a beefed up version of that. Don't let the video games fool you! And, Mechs should be a little more nimble than being depicted, too.
... You skipped the prologue.
... oops
Lmao I can see my own messages 💀💀
too can I sometimes!
@@nerdyOveranalyzed lol sorry just waking up forgot to put see