Turandot - In questa reggia, The Riddles - Ghena Dimitrova, Nicola Martinucci - Arena di Verona
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00:00 In questa reggia
06:18 Straniero, ascolta
11:14 Gelo che ti dà foco
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Arena di Verona, 1983
Ghena Dimitrova, Nicola Martinucci, Cecilia Gasdia, Gianfranco Manganotti
Conductor: Maurizio Arena
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From a NY Times article about Ghena Dimitrova:
Dimitrova also performed at the famous Verona Arena, where, as she told Opera News, she had to adapt her technique to singing outdoors. In a theater, she sings legato, producing an unbroken line of melody. But: ''To be understood in the open air . . . the words have to be more clearly enunciated, so there is less true legato, but you compensate in the thrust of the voice.'' - เพลง
What a voice!!!!
what volume!!!
Grande Dimitrova!
In questa reggia dove regnava La Dimitrova .
Una voce unica nella sua bellezza artistica .
23 scale separavano la voce di Martinucci da quella della Dimitrova ...
Questa sera la voce della Dimitrova regnava durante tutta la recita per la gioia del pubblico .
Era una sera indimenticabile .
Divina La Dimitrova .
il vecchio
Un torrente in piena ed impetuoso di suono! Quella sera l’ ancoraggio del suono rimase PERFETTO per tutta la recita. Una omogeneità unica difficile da mantenere nell’aria “figlio del cielo” dove la stanchezza per la lunga e terrificante parte di prima mette in difficoltà chiunque. I 2 Do sovracuti con orchestra e coro al massimo risultano come due uragani.
Incredible!! All the authority and power of Turandot is in the voice and gestures of Ghena, and it surrounds us from beginning to end!
I totally agree. One of the best Turandot's in history. Her intense shimmery vibrato only adds to the coldness she feels in her heart. Like icy shivers......
@@jimbuxton2187c’est une opinion poétique que vous exprimez mais qui contraste avec les recommandations d’un phoniatre ou d’un oto-rhino-laryngologiste. Son registre aigu est saturé et elle est contrainte à basculer la tête en arrière pour décompenser la pression sous glottique. Regardez Gwyneth Jones dans ce rôle et vous verrez la différence de technique. GJ a chanté des rôles lourds jusqu’à la fin de sa carrière. La Dimitrova a été une étoile filante 🌠 qui s’est éteinte trop vite ❤
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Amazing! Love no crown. This aria is about purity.
Sung magnificently here by a gorgeous soprano who brings the libretto to life.
A revelation. BRAVII
DIVA!
Dimitrova is astounding, absolutely breathtaking - - the perfect Turandot.
This is what I love about Ghena’s Turadot. She is imposing, stoic, icy yet passionate and has a huge voice. She doesn’t seem stressed or strained when she sings. She’s the perfect Turandot.
Unfortunately, there are very few who can truly feel it like you...
She tried to overpay not 100, but 1000% in every role and sympathized with her soulfully, It's a pity that her impeccable discipline and rich soul was not understood...... And she cannot be understood by people without a soul. ...
Well said, a wonderful performance
Grandissima, vocalità insuperabile era perfetta x l arena
Voce Immensa ! Meravigliosa Turandot ❤️
Какой близкий звук! Восхитительно!
I adore this
Shine bright in the sky Gena, you will be remebered!
Yes, she is "Turandot" 👍👍
Assurément une des plus grandes Turandot.Vocalement époustouflant. !!!
La plus grande sans l'ombre d'un doute
Ghena Dimitrova, quasi tre ottave di estensione. Una voce tutta sul fiato che parte dal registro di mezzo-soprano per arrivare agli estremi della tessitura di soprano con grande sicurezza e precisa intonazione. Va detto che il lavoro ch'ella ha fatto con la nostro impareggiabile soprano Gina Cigna, deve esser stato sicuramente importante e decisivo per giungere a tale traguardo. Ma l'energia, il senso del teatro, l'incredibile presenza scenica, la stupenda musicalità, erano già in lei quando è partita dalla sua Bulgaria per tentare la fortuna nella nostra Italia (paese fino qualche anno fa patria indiscussa del melodramma e del belcanto).
Senza gli "strani esseri" dalla magica voce che chiamiamo cantanti, credo che il destino di quest'arte si faccia sempre più incerto. E sopperire al problema usando "effetti speciali" quali regie pirotecniche, scenografie spettacolari e/o computerizzate, conductor-star, pompaggio pubblicitario o altro, credo funzioni solo per metà.
Siamo in molti ad augurarci che l'Italia dedichi più attenzione a questo suo profondo tesoro culturale; e il fatto che recentemente si sia scelto di candidare l'Opera Lirica all'UNESCO, come patrimonio immateriale dell'umanità, potrebbe essere un passo in questa direzione.
Anche la mia insegnante era una studentessa di Gina Cigna…
Senza nulla togliere alla meravigliosa Gina Cigna,ghena Dimitrova conobbe la Cigna solo quando uscì dalla Bulgaria,cantava gia' da 15 anni,prima da mezzo soprano e subito dopo da soprano lirico spinto( così si definiva Lei stessa) la voce era gia' " perfetta" e con Gina Cigna studio' il personaggio non la vocalita',io so questo perche' ero collega e amico della piu' straordinaria delle Turandot Abigaille lady Macbeth e molti altri ruoli
Fantastici, indimenticabili.
Dimitrova Sara siempre Superva. Bravisssima...
What a legendary voice, it is a pity they are gone nowadays. Such artists are missed so much!
per fortuna Martinucci ( calaf )e' ancora tra noi cosi come la Gasdia ( liu')
@@francodegrandis870 I mean the new artists are far inferior to the ones of the past.
Perfection. Period. Bravissima, Dimitrova!
Ghena’s Turandot is magnificent, she does power, iciness and passion to perfection
THE VERY BEST TURANDOT!!!!
Grande Ghena Dimitrova! My most beloved soprano! My biggest inspiration and teacher alongside Maria Guleghina and Franco Corelli!
It’s funny you mention Corelli, who I love also, but in fact he had very little formal voice training, just a natural gorgeous voice.
One the best Turandot
Absolutely Mind blowing singing, such a astonishing voice and presence.
Seing the ridiculous jokes on Met's stage in this grandeous piece, I can't help feeling the literal pain from Ghena's absence. There's noone like her, and nobody ever did it that way, not Birgit Nilson, not Eva Marton - nobody. But they all belonged to a generation where ABILITY was A MUST before even touching any of these roles, not to mention step on these theatres' stage.
Ghena was the best in Turandot among them all.
It's good that there was her.
❤❤❤❤Así es, extrañamos a Ghena en ese rol, era maravillosa. Saludos cordiales
Quanti anni son passati, fu una serata memorabile. Poi l'ho risentita e vista al San Carlo di Napoli. Una meravigliosa voce!
un fenomeno vocale che ho avuto la fortuna di avere come collega e amica come il grande Martinucci e il grande direttore
Merveilleuse Ghena !
Grandissima
Great performance by Ghena Dimitrova from Bulgaria.Thank you!
Not having been able to see her perform live is one of my biggest regrets.
Meravigliosa Ghena 🧡
Maravillosa. Se me eriza la piel
When in the glorious Arena di Verona singers used to sing without the help of microphones
Es una prima de la opera per tutta la vita
La Dimitrova in queste recite all'Arena di Verona ha creato la migliore Turandot di tutti i tempi e non solo per la vocalità strepitosa ma anche per il fraseggio incisivo ed espressivo.
I was fortunate enough to be at this performance. It was truly incredible. I got to see Dimitrova sing Turandot 3 times, once here and twice at the Met in NYC.
Could you describe how big was it sir? Maybe it's like she sang next to us or like she used the mic!!??
@@Mariahwhatsgood-mo9lk dimitrova is like the most powerful female opera singer of all time, at least opera soprano
@@Matthew9.__ may be she is #2 'cause i think Flagstad is a little bit better.
@@Mariahwhatsgood-mo9lk nilsson?
Smaller than Dimitrova and Wagner for sure, her voice's just bright and big to a certain degree
Mamma Mia la Dimitrova!!!!!
This is opera at its finest!! B
Indimenticabile Dimitrova👏👏👏👏👏
Amazing! Gorgeous voice, great power! Today no one can sing this. The last great Turandot.
Performed by Ghena Dimitrova from Bulgaria.R.I.P.,great singer
❤❤❤muy cierto, fue la última Turandot. Saludos cordiales
Oooof ! C'est magistral. LA voix pour ce rôle
The last legitimate dramatic soprano
Word 👑💙 🇫🇷 Arnuad Bourbon Amaral
¿Y Anna Cerquetti?
@@Pachinanonim not a dramatic soprano
@@Pachinanonim mi dispiace la Cerquetti magnifica cantante non fu un mai soprano drammatico come non lo fu la Dimitrova ( sicuramente piu' drammatica della Cerquetti,anche perche' cantava da mezzo soprano!) La Dimitrova si definiva soprano lirico/ spinto! ( Sentita piu' volte dirlo da lei con le mie orecchie!) Forse l' unico o uno dei pochissimi drammatici fu bruna rasa cui Mascagni chiamo' sempre per cantare Santuzza in cavalleria rusticana ( non ascoltate le voci stravolte dei dischi o in meglio negli ultimi 70 / 80 anni o in peggio precedentemente,purtroppo noi non sapremo mai la vera voce di Caruso eccetera, così come di bruna rasa,la Dimitrova questo perche' sentito con le mie orecchie fu la voce di soprano piu' impressionante forse della storia ,perche' il mio maestro che canto' con Birgit Nilsson e alla scala per 15 anni quando senti in Turandot la Dimitrova mi disse: questa e' più impressionante della nilsson!!! e ' tutto grazie ( io in questa Turandot ero il mandarino e avevo 23 anni
da brividi, bravissima
Fabulous
So sublime both voices😍!
GRANDE GHENA RIMMARRAI INDIMENTICABILE
Ah God a God given power. A Force of Nature!
Ah the biggest dramatic soprano I have ever heard! Resonant God given force of nature. Thanks for this!! Ah I feel relieve of all stress listening to her!
Martinucci too! A great great Calaf! He matches her in temperament fabulous duo! The best! They are the drama in voice and presence!!
Oh my god. 16.55. What a voice.
PUCCINI PER SEMPRE PUCCINI
She was unbelievable!! I keep watching this video weeks after weeks months after month years after years! 😍😍😍 #Perfectdramaticsoprano
When I listen to her all my stress goes away. Martinucci is my favorite calaf !!!!! So passionate big big voice. They are the best match up for this opera!! He is so handsome too wonderful presence and profound vocal quality!
Renaud Jean. I feel the same !
WOW ! - wish I had been there !!!!
Exciting
Muovevo i primi passi sentimentali per questo meraviglioso genere musicale. Cosa che mi ha portato ad iniziare a studiare canto lirico e a vivere personalmente questo mondo in prima persona. Assolutamente impagabile!
Un giorno, trovo la trasmissione televisiva di questa meraviglia: per me è semplicemente una edizione iconica 💓!!!
Sono quelle prime cose che ti fanno andare fuori di testa. Assolutamente memorabile Cecilia Gasdia, con la sua voce atipica e preziosissima, che ho avuto il grande piacere di sentire anche dal vivo.
Maurizio Arena è perfetto!!!
Altre epoche. Altre atmosfere. "Altre" sensazioni.
I mean this as a compliment. The look is very vampire horror movie, including the blueish lighting, white shroud and Crystal Gayle-length wig. Add to that the incredibly powerful vocals echoing through the theater. It’s all rather frightening in a wonderfully, ambiguously satisfying way. I suspect I’m going to have very loud nightmares after watching this.
"...ambiguously satisfying way" is probably the most poignant definition of the entire experience. She's scary as hell on so many levels and I am always surprised by Martinucci who manages to sing so confidently after being subjected to "so, straniero, ti sbianca la paura..." from such a distance :)
Indeed. Gloria Holden in "Dracula's Daughter" (1936) vibes.
@@whatsup4004 What a great reference! I’m going to have to watch “Dracula’s Daughter” again. It’s been years.
@@stevers62 Yeah, it's not brilliant, but has that one wonderful seduction scene.
Ghena Dimitrova ho avuto la fortuna di ammirarla tante volte all Arena di Verona.
La sua Turandot areniana resterà indelebile nell orizzonte mondiale della lirica
Grazie di ❤
❤❤❤❤Brava!!!!!Ghena…inigualable!!!!!!!!
I apologize to you all... But... "FUCKING YEAH"!!!!!
THAT'S IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I attended Turandor at the MET, 1987, she was scary loud!
They are both great, the soprano and the tenor (Dimitrova is always amazing and I don't understand people saying the tenor is frail, he delivers quite well). A very good production of one of my favourite scenes. Eskerrik asko!
il tenore era poderoso e fantastico la Dimitrova un fenomeno
@@francodegrandis870 É vero
I’m a big fan of Dimitrova…. Last week I’ve been to the Sydney opera house to listen to Turandot and the dramatic soprano was ANNA-LOUISE COLE she was very good! Amazing singing and acting too!!
I’m going to go in the next days a second time!!
Ai tuoi piedi ci prostriam, Luce,
Re di tutto il mondo!
Per la tua saggezza,
per la tua bontà ci doniamo a te,
lieti in umiltà,
a te salga il nostro amor!
Diecimila anni
al nostro Imperatore!
A te, erede di Hien-Wang
noi gridiam:
Diecimila anni al nostro Imperatore!
Alte, alte le bandiere!
Gloria a te! Gloria a te
Arena conducting in an open-air arena. Fabulous sound from everyone thanks for the upload!
How wonderful💌💌
I'm lucky enough to have seen her in this role - stunning! I also saw Gwynneth Jones too. I slightly preferred Jones (she can act!), but both were LOUD.
These are 100% of Turandot. The Turandot. Noone else ever did this before or after her!
Wow !!!
why am I crying? I'm so stupid omg haha
Well, you're not stupid :) Tears come not only from sadness, they come also in the presence of greatness.
Probably because you have a heart and a soul. Crying with you.
Bravisimaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm worried for Calaf too, she might eat him!! But seriously folks this is a great performance, she's no oil painting to look at this point in the show either, but happily, it gets better.
WOW
No good dramatic sopranos left. Everyone sucks. NO one can hit high notes. Singing in tune is a big ask these days. :( Makes me so sad. Ghena forever. This is the best recording-incredible metal in the voice. Her Lady Macbeth and Abigaille are also unsurpassed.
Sondra Radvanovsky. I have heard her live, although sadly not as Turandot. Voice wise at least the equal of Ghena. She was putting out high notes that almost had you ducking in your seat, but to no avail, because they just ricocheted off the back wall of the opera house and got you in the back of the head. Still, no one has equaled Ghena in becoming this character dramatically and owning it. This was the ultimate performance of that role and it was a treat seeing her expressions and imtense expressiveness close-up in addition to hearing that voice.
@@Palaemon44 you mean she uses amplifier in order to stop sing??
ESCALOFRIANTE ¡ La ultima gran soprano dramática….
What a fantastic production Dimitrova was superb but who was the scene stealer the dancer witg the sword he added so much to the production ---who was he ?
6:23 is beyond even fantasy…
We don't hear voices like this anymore. I wonder why....
Voices like this happen probably once in 50 or 100 years, but yes... this kind of sound is becoming a lost art.
@@jassenjj ❤❤Tienes toda la razón. Saludos cordiales
@@jassenjjyou like Matteo Lane and the classic opera singers. You have great taste! 😉
@@MichaelDG2023 Obviously, the same is valid for you, buddy, given that you've reached this depth of comments :)
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Senza lampadari sulla testa come alla Scala....può aggiungere al suo canto sfumature ..,....da brividi....inoltre la serata era magica di suo...e Martinucci....non sfigurò.
Come pure la Gasdia....sulla linea Ricciarelli...ma ebbi la fortuna di ascoltare anche la recita di Maria Chiara come Liù...le due artiste poi concordarono di Cantare un 'Aida dove la Dimitrova si levò lo sfizio di interpretare un' Amneris...di Lusso....la regia fu di Montaldo che usò i costumi sobri ed elegantissimi del suo Marco Polo televisivo?....Maurizio Arena ottimo ...come sempre attento ai cantanti...ricordo diretta da lui una bellissima Butterfly con una splendida Kabaiwanska....
I love the staging, especially the Sadako Turandot :D
Hahaha!..Sadako..😂
놀랍다 소리
e nel 2021 i Netrebkos microfonati. mah.
And during this year's Verona festival we have heard The Netrebkos with microphones etc. OMG.
I'm sorry, but for me only DIMITROVA 🥵😍🥰❤️🌹🌹💐💐
Almost sounds Wagnerian..the Music is cool and declarative..befitting the Ice Queen!
It's usually sung by a soprano who would sing Isolde, or Brunhilde. Turandot is considered as difficult as Isolde to sing especially when starting with In Questa Reggia.
@@nicholasprakash3411 I think Callas was one who said that Wagner roles like Isolde were more singable than Turandot.
@@joshuafurtado-mendes9327 Wow, ok. Isolde and Brunhilde seem much difficult, especially in length. 3 to 4 1/2 hrs.
이게진짜 드라마틱이지!!!
I’m worried for calaf
Spaventosa 😱 !!!
Spaventoso tu cerebro
Turandot the Princess is doing what Sphinx of Egypt demanded to Oedipus.
Egypt?? Wrong country.
@user-it1ig8fn1r I didn't say that Turandot is about Egypt. Please don't misunderstand me.
She was the Met operas last great Turandot. No one today can fill her shoes not even draped in a Ukranian flag!!!
Liudmyla Monastyrska was fantastic, Ghena seemed to be singing songs, Liudmyla was performing Turandot.
What a strange derogatory comment, so misplaced and inappropriate, tells more of the poster than anything else.
The Met has put forth the worst Turandots. The last one I heard was the worst. Small voice, with a wobble on every note, very out of tune. The worst. The voice despite the mic was very small.
Draped in an Ukrainian flag..... You say that As in that People will Love her more Only for being Drapoed in that Stupid Flag from that Neo Nazi Country?
you watched too much RT before your sleep, aren't you? How idiots like you didn't extinct?@@devonripley7862
Where can I get the whole opera? With Dimitrova, of course.
There are a few places, one is in the description of the video, just follow the link. The DVD is region-locked to region 1, so if you're outside US, Canada or Bermuda, you'll need some advanced tech skills to read it.
@@jassenjj I am, unfortunately. And I don’t have any special tech skills. (Sighing). So I will never get it. Unless some kind soul will make a mp4 file...
@@sonate10 Try Amazon. I get most of my DVDS from them. 💙🇫🇷🎻🎹🎶🎼 Arnold Bourbon AMARAL
@@arnoldamaral7406 the problem is that “DVD is currently unavailable” on Amazon. But I found it on Alibris.
@@sonate10 Get the brand name of your DVD player and Google how to unlock regions with that name. It is simply a matter of a few key presses on your DVD remote, after that. I have done it twice.
Turandot and Salome would make an interesting girlfriends on the dating scene.
Haha! You mean between themselves or...?
@@jassenjj Both looking for male suitors Not lesbian. If you add Carmen and Lulu that would be a interesting take on the women from Sex and the City.
Si on entend moins bien le ténor que Mme Dimitrova c'est aussi dû au fait qu'il a moins de voix. Renata Tebaldi disait de la Dimitrova que c'était une "force de la nature"! On observera que bien que situé en tout premier plan il est dominé de bout en bout, sans même parler de l'autre soprano (Liu). A bon entendeur salut!!!!
Thank you! This is exactly what I meant - Martinucci's voice, although being one of the best Calafs I have ever heard and with great presentation, is indeed not as big as Dimitrova's voice. In the recording though the 2 voices have equal volume but modern sound equipment seriously cuts his volume due to spikes in a lower register triggering feedback circuits, typical for not-really HiFi systems. I can hear his full power only through single ended tube amplifier coupled with high sensitive state-of-the-art column set.
Au moins le ténor a fait le contre-do, "no, no, principessa altera, ti voglio arrrrdeeeeeeenteee d'amor" hé hé, ce type a des couilles, la ou d'autres se contentent de chanter la misérable ligne alternative. J'ai eu la chance d'entendre Dimitrova au MET dans ce rôle. C'était terrifiant.
@@loiseaunoir1021 il avait eu surtout Marcelo del Monaco comme professeur. Ghena Dimitrova est un phénomène UNIQUE dans l'histoire de l'opéra
That poor tenor could'nt quite match her power lol. What a fantastic, huge voice!
😅
I've noticed that the tenors have generally smaller voices than the Turandots. I don't really know the specifications of the score, but I remember the case of Eva Marton and Carreras or Domingo.
@@ErnestoValt Both High C's are sung Forte... however, the Dramatic Soprano's High C however, will ALWAYS overpower a Dramatic Tenor's High C... the frequency and the output power
@@baritoneblazzin1965not necessarily. In acoustics the voice carries in a different way. No matter higher or lower
Expected it would be thrilling but to me it is shrilling...
12:12
sadako sings
:D
She reminds more Yuki-onna for me
17:19 No no pricipessa altera
oh lord Calaf why u sounded like that. that figlio del cielo literally fked up bcoz of u T^T
唱歌我还行，跳舞身体就不行了，都是伤
That giant voice bounces off too many surfaces at fortissimo, hence a weird multy-echoey effect..
"bounces off too many surfaces"? "weird multy-echoey effect"?!
@@malenasheytanova9967
I mean, if you can't hear it I can't help you can I..
Sing in a small empty room with no carpet, that's the sound you'll likely get.
Her Nabucco there was recorded much better and this reverb was avoided.
Oh and also: manners !?
You really can hear an impressive echo. Good description.
Just listened to Sutherland sing this aria, La Stupenda!
Hi Jonathan! Sutherland and Dimitrova deliver performances which are practically incomparable. The 2 singers are very different, neither the former nor the latter are typical Turandots, Sutherland's recording is from studio, Dimitrova's is a live performance from the largest open-air theater for opera. What are your impressions?
@@jassenjj my impression is that Sutherland sang the role to technical perfection, Dimitrova sang the role as would a tyrannical queen. To vastly different interpretations. Sutherland’s voice is incomparable, her interpretation may not have been as forceful as what I think was expected, like Nilsson for instance. I love Sutherland hitting the high notes, it’s so easy and natural. So I would have to say, I go for the purity of the voice, over the interpretation!
@@jonathanstephenson3513 Sutherland said that Turandot was not a great role for her. She stated that while the high notes and their projection was 'easy' for her, she would have pushed for the notes in the center and low register. Sutherland's recording of Turandot is great one, especially due to Caballe's fragile Liu.
Dimitrova was born to singer Turandot and Abigaille. Live her voice was a force of nature.
@@Wotan123456789 I agree, I had the recording of Dimitrova singing this at La Scala and cherished it, much preferred it to Nilsson’s interpretations, but Sutherland high notes soar so easily, and her always perfect pitch is impressive. You can tell she would struggle on the low end, it is a demanding piece of music. I actually have not heard this entire production of Turandot with Sutherland singing this role!
Sutherland's is a studio recording - complete Mehta recording of Turandot with Pavarotti and Caballe ( perhaps the best recorded Liu ).
Sutherland coud never tackle the part of Turandot on stage. Dmitrova has the required power and is very good.
However, please listen to Gina Cigna ( 1938 complete recording) or Birgit Nilsson (all studio and live recordings). These two ladies were THE Turandots and have not been replaced so far...
Great, if you've never heard or seen Birgit Nilsson, or Leone Rysanik, or Caballe, or Eva Marton, or or or . . .
il mio maestro ha cantato con la Nilsson salome ruolo erode e mi parlava spesso della Nilsson e quando alla Scala nei 1983 ascolto' la Dimitrova mi disse che era superiore alla Nilsson be...non vedo cosa centri la Caballe magnifica voce e magnifica belcantista con la potenza spaventosa della Dimitrova, uno dei pochissimi tenori che poteva cantargli insieme era lo splendido Martinucci lascio a voi i confronti tra loro,cantare con la Dimitrova era come cantare tu senza microfono e lei col microfono...che a differenza di molti non aveva ,la Marton era fantastica e solo la Dimitrova aveva piu' volume di lei e forse la Gulin
Dimitrova is Great but Nilsson made this role her own in her day!
Zefireli....Marton Éva....mindenek felett...