Elizabethan Pavans

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    Oleg Timofeyev, a Russian-born American lutenist, brings together a personal collection of some of his favourite Elizabethan pavans, each carefully chosen from lute books or unpublished manuscripts, spanning the length of Queen Elizabeth I’s reign. What intrigues Timofeyev is the special status that the pavan held during this time, and how it morphed from a simple dance to a slow, grand, fantasy-like composition. This album showcases this fascinating development; from two pavans inspired by Elizabeth’s predecessor, King Henry VIII, the first of which includes a marvellous ‘fanfare’ section, to a collection of anonymous pavans that utilised common harmonic progressions for the first time, delighting the post-Renaissance listener. The famous John Dowland features on this release, with his tongue-in-cheek ‘Semper Downland semper dolens’ (a complaint that he neverheld a position at Elizabeth’s court), as well as Daniel Bacheler and John Daniel, whose eccentric, almost decadent style brought the art of the pavan to its highest degree of sophistication.
    Oleg Timofeyev is a lutenist, guitarist, musicologist and documentary film director.
    Since arriving in America in 1989, he has studied with the likes of Hopkinson Smith and Peter Williams, and has gone on to record dozens of CDs. He has been responsible for the revival of the seven-string Russian guitar, and in 2008 together with his wife he made a compelling documentary about his former guitar teacher, Kamill Frautschi.
    The Pavan is an ancient Spanish-Italian Dance form, solemn, slow and stately. It gained great popularity in Renaissance England, in which it developed from a straight dance form in the time of Henry VIII to a highly sophisticated composition of a slow, rhapsodic and fantasy-like nature, in which the composer expressed his often melancholy emotions. The composers featured are Cotton, Ferrabosco, Philips, Johnson, Mason, Robinson, Dowland, Daniel, Bacheler and several Anonymi. Oleg Timofeyev is a highly respected lutenist, guitarist, musicologist and documentary film director. He wrote the excellent liner notes for this release.
    Artist: Oleg Timofeyev lute
    00:00:00 Kyng Harry the VIIIth Pavyn
    00:01:58 The Kinges Pavane
    00:03:43 Pavan
    00:06:31 Quadro pavan
    00:08:48 Anthony pavan
    00:11:06 Passamezzo pavan (Marsh Lute Book)
    00:14:41 Pavan
    00:18:07 Quadro Pavan (Willoughby Lute Book)
    00:20:10 Pavana cromatica
    00:23:37 Spanish pavan
    00:28:28 Philips pavan
    00:31:48 Mason pavan
    00:36:03 Lachrimae pavan
    00:40:53 Spanish pavan
    00:43:57 Semper Dowland semper dolens
    00:47:14 Sims pavan
    00:52:06 Pavan (Cozens Lue Book)
    00:54:58 Pavan
    01:00:14 Rosamund
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ความคิดเห็น • 162

  • @shin-i-chikozima
    @shin-i-chikozima ปีที่แล้ว +20

    It's like watching a 16 th century processional dance
    This wonderful and beautiful and comfortable music is unrivaled, and promotes peace and serenity of the soul

  • @center1581
    @center1581 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    this album is a certified banger.

    • @MegaCirse
      @MegaCirse ปีที่แล้ว

      Just turn it on

    • @excelsior999
      @excelsior999 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's quite a compliment, mate.

  • @dominiquelarueenchantez-vous
    @dominiquelarueenchantez-vous 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thanks for sharing. I love the first one with the little drum on the wood of the lute.

  • @jayakumarkaarikuzhy4713
    @jayakumarkaarikuzhy4713 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I had noticed this on my phone many times but ignored it as very old music. This is absolute magic, indescribable and I have enjoyed it in one go . To me, this music is apt for meditation and I have meditated. What a pleasure to 'listen to ' an indescribable and astounding 'magic'! I have heard about listeners becoming asleep, but meditating while hearing the music? I have learned by experience. Great music. Gracias.

    • @BrilliantClassics
      @BrilliantClassics  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad you enjoy it!

    • @monb.2017
      @monb.2017 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You are old.

    • @Timofeyev63
      @Timofeyev63 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      As the performer of this collection, I am very happy that you find it enjoyable. Keep meditating, it's a great use of this beautiful repertoire.

    • @jayakumarkaarikuzhy4713
      @jayakumarkaarikuzhy4713 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Timofeyev63 Thanks very much.

    • @jayakumarkaarikuzhy4713
      @jayakumarkaarikuzhy4713 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@monb.2017 To some extent the purpose behind your query is correct: generally, one enjoys what is virtue, what is sublime,etc., when one becomes old. But there's exception to this rule; nowadays even some young people are increasingly discarding what is superfluous and delve deep into many arts, including music, to quench their thirst for knowledge. Sadly you are the only old-timer among young folks happy with what you have. Start hearing all kinds of music and then naturally you will become an aficionado.

  • @pamtime22
    @pamtime22 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Elizabeth I probably was rockin to this music. It's beautiful, relaxing and very emotionally moving.

    • @petebondurant58
      @petebondurant58 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I doubt that Queen Elizabeth spent much time at relaxation.

    • @JudgeJulieLit
      @JudgeJulieLit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Gavin MacNeish In the slow petrifaction sense.

  • @GodeCynningaz5386
    @GodeCynningaz5386 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Brilliant, Mr Timofeyev.

  • @kevinsherwinguitar
    @kevinsherwinguitar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Gorgeous, and one of the most moving Lachrimae Pavans I've heard.

  • @MegaCirse
    @MegaCirse ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Je perds la tête depuis un assez long temps mais cette musique ensoleillée, m'aide à flotter & garder la tête hors de l'eau💥

    • @Timofeyev63
      @Timofeyev63 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Je suis si heureux que mes humbles sons aient aidé -- bonne chance !

  • @thomasc390
    @thomasc390 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🎄Thank you!🎄

  • @sherpah
    @sherpah 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    love it, makes me travel to a mysterious world with some legendary kings ^^

  • @ColetteLeCouteur
    @ColetteLeCouteur 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Need to write an essay on Hamlet for my masters right now, this music is really getting me in the right mood!

  • @wakanavkirachel8068
    @wakanavkirachel8068 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    SPOT ON!!!! I have been looking for THIS set of type of instruments and style for a looooong time!!!! I have been downloading lutes and mandarins [spelling?], and the etc.. and HERE was what I was looking for, for 4 years!!! THANKS!!!! Buying the album!!! and you introduced me to this fella.. I am gleeful

    • @jenelosedire
      @jenelosedire 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Mandolins? ;-)

    • @wakanavkirachel8068
      @wakanavkirachel8068 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      YYYYYeeeppp! Lol! figured the true spelling of it later, then, you caught it and sent... THAT is the one!!

    • @steveegallo3384
      @steveegallo3384 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      No...you were right the first time: Chinese MANDARINS of pre-modern Ming antiquity espoused the musical arts over all others and wielded the mandolin and lute with formidable technique and zeal

    • @wakanavkirachel8068
      @wakanavkirachel8068 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oh my!!! Sometimes a word INSISTS it be.. and you just proved it as an example.. you made me laugh.. Thanks!!!!

    • @JudgeJulieLit
      @JudgeJulieLit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Mandarins played mandolins.

  • @xyzabcc56
    @xyzabcc56 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Really Amazing

  • @fernandovera2045
    @fernandovera2045 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Maravillosa música.

  • @lisaowens5070
    @lisaowens5070 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Such grace and beauty!

  • @daxfitzgerald8847
    @daxfitzgerald8847 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think I like this cause it takes me to a place where I can forget the the electric guitar was ever invented

  • @claudiapinho-memorias
    @claudiapinho-memorias 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Grata por nos presentear músicas tão belas de um passado cuja atmosfera ainda nos impressiona e deleita.

    • @Timofeyev63
      @Timofeyev63 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ¡Gracias por tus cálidas palabras! Si quieres un ambiente más inusual del pasado, busca en youtube "Russian Guitar 1800-1850" - este es otro lanzamiento que tuve en colaboración con Brilliant Classics. ¡Ese es más de SIETE horas!

  • @pkrones
    @pkrones 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I don't really know what pavan is, but I love it! Such uplifting peaceful music ❤

    • @brianbahneman4294
      @brianbahneman4294 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      a slow dance or the music thereof... also a Hindu God idk

    • @Davmm96
      @Davmm96 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Slow introductory dance, often used to walk onto the dance floor. So one can imagine the bal getting ready to start, then people form couples to take place in the hall when the pavan starts. The dance basic form is : step, pause, step, pause, 3 quick steps, pause. So i'd say one ends up covering 3 meters each 4 mesures.
      In Canadian french we still use the verb "pavaner" , mostly to say that someone is going around while showing off a bit.

  • @shin-i-chikozima
    @shin-i-chikozima 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This has a healing effect, and a healing exilir

  • @danawinsor1380
    @danawinsor1380 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Bravo! Beautiful playing.

  • @heymul25
    @heymul25 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Smile, Henry. This is really great stuff.

    • @darrenhirst9900
      @darrenhirst9900 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He looks like he wants to go down the pub and gets that look off the wife 😁

    • @hedgemist691
      @hedgemist691 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@darrenhirst9900 Edward doesn't look too pleased either.

    • @darrenhirst9900
      @darrenhirst9900 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hedgemist691 No he doesn't dose he?

  • @maguelonneherault8181
    @maguelonneherault8181 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    A great periodin England History. Excellent

    • @Ganpignanus
      @Ganpignanus 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      unless you were one of the wives of henry viii or crossed him...

    • @excelsior999
      @excelsior999 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Ganpignanus ... or unless you were Sir Thomas More. Hank thought of him as his best friend. St. Thomas More, a devoted Catholic, was beheeaded under the reign of Henry VII, essentially because he wouldn't join Henry's new religion - The Churchh of England.
      Thanks to Henry, King Charles (who was just hoping & praying that he wouldn't die before his mum) is now the head of the C.of E..

  • @cardioforme
    @cardioforme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful!

  • @dimitrigoldobine3408
    @dimitrigoldobine3408 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bravo, dear Guru !

  • @jenelosedire
    @jenelosedire 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant, love it!

  • @carlosmontes6568
    @carlosmontes6568 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A delight for senses! ,.. Thank you.

  • @colinhazell6259
    @colinhazell6259 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super!

  • @MedievalRichard
    @MedievalRichard 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Splendid.
    MR

  • @DavidA-ps1qr
    @DavidA-ps1qr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's a lovely compilation. Lovelier still if someone had taken the time and trouble to couple the composers to the pieces we are listening to instead of just listing some of them in the synopsis. I like to know from whose pen doth music comes.

    • @Timofeyev63
      @Timofeyev63 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very true, for that I can send you a signed copy of this CD of mine ))

  • @anibal5284
    @anibal5284 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    milady , vuestra merced, me concede este baile,grant me this dance, llovio pero salio el sol, It rained but the sun came out

  • @Ganeshatc51
    @Ganeshatc51 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Esta noche llovizna y todo está pacífico a mi alrededor. Solo las pavanas de fondo. No hace falta (casi) nada más

  • @irinameshkova2832
    @irinameshkova2832 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Пожалуй, джазу и року, которые всегда у меня фоном, придётся потесниться.😊

    • @Timofeyev63
      @Timofeyev63 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Спасибо, дорогая Ирина, за тёплые слова о моих скромных "Паванах." Ещё в студенчестве я задумал такую программу, и всё думал, делать/не делать. Тогда ещё не было большого опыта. Но сейчас я очень рад, что мне удалось поделиться этой музыкой с Вами! Джаз и рок подождут, их и так хватает в пространстве ))

  • @youtubegame8911
    @youtubegame8911 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    J’adore très ludique

  • @raw3040
    @raw3040 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good work 😊😊😊❤

  • @realityslidersmandelaeffec6594
    @realityslidersmandelaeffec6594 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have touched the actual real picture you are showing with the music

  • @suzyhill9544
    @suzyhill9544 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Why is the pic of Henry? The Elizabethan era didn't start until Elizabeth ascended the throne. She was only a kid when this portrait was done.

    • @JudgeJulieLit
      @JudgeJulieLit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@marcinpyt Teen Elizabeth's stepfather also mornings tried to bed romp wake, seduce her as a potential successor to his wife, Henry 8's widow Catherine Parr. This fueled her lifelong distrust of male suitors.

    • @darrenhirst9900
      @darrenhirst9900 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JudgeJulieLit So many buildings had secret passages and tracing bloodlines would be interesting don't you think?

  • @josianeguedes2972
    @josianeguedes2972 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Boa noiteeeeee gente linda bjsss 😍

  • @alanhigh8125
    @alanhigh8125 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This would be ideal, playing softly in the background; on a crisp Autumn day; the trees in full colour, surrounded by friends and family round an outdoor hearth, sipping your favorite adult beverage.

  • @marlenemontooth4760
    @marlenemontooth4760 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Lovely music, but I cannot deal with the constant advert interruptions.

    • @nobus2meg211
      @nobus2meg211 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Ads won't show up if you download AdBlocker on your browser👍

    • @Pavanesound
      @Pavanesound 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nobus2meg211 What about on You tube premium? That would get rid of the ads I think. Is this available as a CD?

    • @nobus2meg211
      @nobus2meg211 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Pavanesound Yeah, but you have to pay for the premium service. Have no idea about the CD. I guess if you download this video via TH-cam video downloader websites and put the file in the CD?

    • @Benn61
      @Benn61 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Pavanesound I would do that if they did not force me to buy alot of junk next to the two things i want from premium (no ads and screen off while playing video for phone).

    • @Pavanesound
      @Pavanesound 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Benn61 O! I haven't tried it...didn't know that.

  • @joycebarber3879
    @joycebarber3879 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The picture is of Edward and his mother Jane Seymour, wife #3.

  • @gummygoo2
    @gummygoo2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I love this painting of Henry, Edward and Jane.
    Why?
    Because its not accurate! Jane died when Edward was newly born. So her being in this family portrait when she wasn't even alive, is kind of cute!

    • @Millie-fs5ew
      @Millie-fs5ew 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gummygoo so they sort of added her into the painting for a family portrait?That’s such a sad but sweet notion!

    • @theodoravonwied5441
      @theodoravonwied5441 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Actually, such a thing was not uncommon at the time. There is a famous painting of Emperor Maximilian 1st's family from around the same time, and it also shows his deceased wife. This is because these paintings are not meant to be mere "happy family" depictions, but political statements: They represent the dynastic continuity of kingship. So this portrait means: "Here is the King of England, and his wife the Queen, and their legitimately born heir the Prince of Wales. The future of the crown is safe."

    • @xr6lad
      @xr6lad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It is a homage. Henry always wanted or needed a son to succeed him as King and he loved Jane the most because she gave him the son that two failed marriages hadn't. Henry viewed Jane as his 'truest' wife and the this is why he was also buried with her and not any of the other even later wives. That's why he had this picture painted.

    • @m.p.2534
      @m.p.2534 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Or maybe the painter just saw the ghost of Jane behind the two others and told himself "Meh. Why not ?" XD But jokes aside, it's a really sweet gesture to put them all together as a family.

    • @yakuzachicharron
      @yakuzachicharron 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      What puzzles me is why they chose to illustrate Elizabethan music with a painting of Elizabeth's father.

  • @dinnerstein
    @dinnerstein 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wonderful. It would be helpful to add the names of the composers--if known. I recognized the Ferrabosco pavan as well those by Dowland. Was the Anthony Pavan by Holbourne?

    • @Timofeyev63
      @Timofeyev63 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for your nice words! This is a physical CD, put on youtube courtesy of Brilliant Classics. If you buy the real album, you will get much more information that what is known about the composers. In the meantime, Anthony Pavan is attributed by some to Anthony de Countie, but some even claimed Antonio Antonio de Cabezón. In any case, certainly not Holborne ))

  • @johnries5593
    @johnries5593 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    "Elizabethan Pavans" is the title, but Henry VIII takes center stage on the album cover?

    • @MrJafredderf
      @MrJafredderf 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cause even dead he could kick butt...lol

    • @andyjeanmacondo
      @andyjeanmacondo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That guy was only showing off

    • @walt325
      @walt325 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Henry VIII was her father.

    • @selfote44
      @selfote44 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes, it is a contradiction. It's as if this king was still, to this day, the main character of the time. At least for the person or groups of people who designed the cover.

    • @michaelepp6212
      @michaelepp6212 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      People can't seem to get enough of Hank.

  • @jude999
    @jude999 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Pavane

  • @davidjohnzenocollins
    @davidjohnzenocollins 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of the commenters asked, "What is a PAVAN?" Well, a pavane is something lovely you do for a dead Princess. Beyond that, I have no idea.

    • @alvindimes4729
      @alvindimes4729 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      David Collins, A Pavan is a medieval dance.

    • @orchidsarepretty1422
      @orchidsarepretty1422 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alvindimes4729 or pavan and pavane the same thing? Just spelled differently

    • @sinsemilia70
      @sinsemilia70 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      it is written in the description, so you could read it, isn’t it?!

    • @dennissullivan2954
      @dennissullivan2954 ปีที่แล้ว

      A pavan is a lovely slow dance people of all ages could dance to and that
      Was it's purpose.

    • @crcaicedo
      @crcaicedo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Pavan or pavane or pavana, was a slow, stilysh and refined dance, especially into European courts. But I find music called pavane is not so slow, specially in the epoch that depicts the album.
      Ravel's Pavane pour une infante difunte, is something different, far more inspired on a romantic idealization of Medieval images and is elegiac and slow and sad than the original dance music, I find it more related to Faure's Pavane 🤔

  • @rebeccajackson4984
    @rebeccajackson4984 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    But Elizabeth isn't in the artwork...

  • @tomfurgas2844
    @tomfurgas2844 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seems odd to have a picture of Henry for music of the Elizabethan period. 🤔

  • @EricDickersonGuitar
    @EricDickersonGuitar ปีที่แล้ว

    Which Manuscript is Kyng Harry the VIIIth Pavyn in?

  • @Pavanesound
    @Pavanesound 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is this available as a CD?

    • @BrilliantClassics
      @BrilliantClassics  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hi! Check out our website for more information, www.brilliantclassics.com/articles/e/elizabethan-pavans/

    • @Pavanesound
      @Pavanesound 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BrilliantClassics Thank you I shall.

  • @jessicastinemusic4066
    @jessicastinemusic4066 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    23:00

  • @carolsmall992
    @carolsmall992 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lovely music but strange choice of album cover; isn’t that Henry VIII with his son Edward Vi and wife Jayne Seymour? After Edward VI came Jane, Mary I and Phillip, and then Elizabeth I.

  • @youtubegame8911
    @youtubegame8911 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Je vous conseille Ludvic

  • @michaelletellier218
    @michaelletellier218 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The picture would be of himself with his two heirs, Edward and Mary.

  • @petebondurant58
    @petebondurant58 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I often wonder what if...Edward VI had lived a full life.

    • @lawrencebrown3677
      @lawrencebrown3677 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have often wondered about that. In the Midlands there are quite a few Edward VI grammar schools, one of which I am familiar with at Stourbridge. He was committed to the Protestant faith. It is is impossible to speculate rationally about what might have been if he had lived longer, but I am sure that there would have been more schools, perhaps even an Edward VI college at Oxford and/or Cantab.

    • @alexandermackay-smith2364
      @alexandermackay-smith2364 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What if, indeed. What if Arthur had lived, and Henry had never been more than a younger prince, who had to be kept out of trouble? What if both of them had had children, who spent the 16th C plotting against one another? A game of thrones.

  • @papagen00
    @papagen00 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    this is antithesis to today's pop music that's all surface glitter and little substance.

  • @daxfitzgerald8847
    @daxfitzgerald8847 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It sucks? Yes but the thing is they were dancing and having fun. We on the other hand make recordings of contemporary music that has bass and contrast and then we sit at home and listn. No dancing. Sort of sucks.

  • @baroqueman1
    @baroqueman1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Gives a lift up away from material cares.

  • @Anonymousforest
    @Anonymousforest ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well I mean he is the father lol

  • @alexandermackay-smith2364
    @alexandermackay-smith2364 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    You kids need to actually listen to the music, not just let it flow over you. The inner structure of polyphony, the way completely distinct lines of music move together to make harmony, is European culture’s unique achievement, what we developed beyond any other world music. The 16th century was the highest peak of this technique, as heard in the massive choral works like Tallis’s Spem in Alium. The lute was the only instrument that let one player keep three, four and even more melodic lines interacting the way a chorus could. Western music since then has degenerated back to a simple melody with a few chords banging away underneath. Easier to write. Fun for the soloist. Doesn’t demand too much from the rest of the band. ’steeth! We used to be better than that. Open up your ears to something real.
    Good album, though. Some unusual items.

    • @alexreik424
      @alexreik424 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      who you?lots of booshee

    • @alexandermackay-smith2364
      @alexandermackay-smith2364 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Oh well. Ignorance is bliss, I guess.

    • @FrankieParadiso4evah
      @FrankieParadiso4evah 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Excellent point, but the PC Brigade always ignores the truth...

    • @gunnarkaithorsen9831
      @gunnarkaithorsen9831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "You kids need to actually listen to the music, not just let it flow over you."
      1. You seem to imperiously assume that the "kids" here don't "think".
      2. Sorry, but the Elizabethans, whose music this was, DID "just let it flow over" them, and there's nothing shallow about that. With the exception of certain Elizabethan composers, they didn't analyze their music, they LIVED it, were one with it, be it the music of court, the Church, the street, a tavern, or a harvest festival. An intellectual dissection of music is well and good, but you seem to be totally involved in the "intellectual" at the expense of the human condition and experience.
      Just as we do today, Elizabethans of all classes responded to music of all kinds, with joy or other emotions, by humming, singing, laughing, weeping, dancing, courting, flirting, tapping their toes, clapping their hands, pondering, praying, etc. Music for them was experienced in the here and now, but it also had a social dimension and connected them to their families, friends, and ancestors. You can study and dissect music until you are blue in the face, but at the end of the day, an uneducated person who nevertheless "feels", can experience music the same as you do, or even more fully than you do in some sense, because they become one with it via heart and soul, and it is those two things after all which intellect - and music - rightly serve.

    • @inco9943
      @inco9943 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@FrankieParadiso4evah why always a need for you type of people to drag in the fictional enemy of the 'PC brigade'....

  • @BlackHermit
    @BlackHermit 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This music is good, but in a way it sucks! I can't explain it, sorry.

    • @steveegallo3384
      @steveegallo3384 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      No problem! Let me add only that there is nothing wrong with you that a little Prozac and a polo-mallet wouldn't cure....

    • @Gaul1748
      @Gaul1748 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Black Hermit: It is understandable. This is from another world and another time. It would be like King Henry VIII coming to our century and trying to understand Rap or Rock N' Roll. These people did not live in the fast life like we do. No television, no cell phones, no radio, no recordings. Cool.

    • @steveegallo3384
      @steveegallo3384 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Objection, Your Honor! Inference that BlackHermit is not "Cool" is hearsay, rumor....not dispositive

    • @johna6767
      @johna6767 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Black Hermit: I was actually thinking something similar. This music is very pretty, but it's also ... I dunno ... boring? It has no drama to it, it doesn't really do anything or go anywhere, it's just kinda ... *there*. Like Gregorian Chant for the lute. But that's OK, sometimes you just want pretty background music.

    • @MrPuros
      @MrPuros 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Gaul1748 I think some heads of those 'nowaday people' would be seen on the Tower

  • @gillianrobb3223
    @gillianrobb3223 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yes , these several compilations of early music are most appealing but the times and the images provided don't always match...a small matter though , with such excellent music to make amends