Why RuneScape's Best Dungeon Got Deleted (OSRS)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ส.ค. 2024
- Its rare that a piece of content in OSRS actually gets deleted entirely. Especially if that piece of content is well loved. Today we take a look at why RuneScape's biggest and best slayer dungeon got deleted by Jagex.
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If it isn't the cockroach cave with the 2x 5000 xp lamps, that drop rune scimitars for f2p players in 2010, then it is not the best dungeon. I'm sorry.
Oh yess many hours were spent in the stronghold of safety.
Dude ahhhhhhhhh
I completely forgot about that shit yo, so many hours down there
memories are flooding back holy shit
What?
Spent most of my days in this cave on main. Looks like it came straight out of a private server looking back on it. Weird to think there are now nostalgic days in OSRS.
I’m one of the few young ppl who got into RuneScape I was 14 in 2018 i think I spent 6 months straight playing osrs def nostalgic from those times
@@liiillllliiilllliilllliii9461 your still 11 years to late
Bro I’m 26 and still hop on every now and then just to remember the good old days when I first started playing in 4th grade
Broo, I had this exact same thought, at the time it was like ah nice new update, looking at it now, deff gives you a massive private sever feel
@@moe3120 It was fing boring doing the same tasks over and over. I maxed Melee doing slayer and spent my life in there. Now my main is like 200k from 99 and the variety compared to the variety days is insane!
Crazy that we’re looking back on nostalgic times in OSRS. Time flies.
I think about this a lot. Nostalgia based off of nostalgia
Especially when wasting your life away on osrs lmfao
at this point osrs is older than runescape was in 2007
God, I'm getting old. Just had my 25th birthday last month and it seems like last week 😳😭🎂
@@gravity3268 Right I turn 25 in a month or so myself 😭
I remember coming back to osrs and wondering if I had gone insane when I couldn't find the same monsters in that cave!
lol it was all a fever dream
Lmao I had the same moment
it was a great dungeon; made pvming with people more enjoyable imo. i remember killing abby demons in that small area and people saying gz a lot when you announce you got a whip lmao
We’ve bitched about Jagex since 99’ and we’ll continue to bitch. But they brought back our childhood game and have kept it alive for us to enjoy as adults. There’s merit to that.
I still think it's funny how OSRS players call Slayer a "real skill", but Dungeoneering is "just a minigame that combines all other skills", whereas Dungeoneering atleast still includes puzzles. (similar to how CoX works and stuff.)
I'd actually prefer if slayer masters assigned things from their own area, removes most of the flavor of the different slayer masters, get a task in morytania then have to trek over to al karid. Of course each slayer master would need to scale in level. That was always my biggest disappointment with slayer.
Honestly this is such a good idea. I'm not sure if the logistics of it would make it really possible but it would be so cool to have to go to different masters for different high level tasks. I mean, konar being the only way to get hydra is the only thing like this I know of (granted I'm only 71 slayer so ya boi don't know too much) but it would be a way to be able to have value at every master rather than just Duradel, Konar, and Nieve (until you are 100 cb).
Plus it just makes sense thematically. Like why would a dude in the tropics send you to kill some weird troll things on a largely frozen island in the north.
I’m so old I remember when the slayer skill was first released. I got 99 slayer when this cave was around. I love this game. Long live old school!
Man I was so geeked for slayer when I first became a member back in middle school , I miss these rs times man
@@drunkenmmamaster419 I remember getting hypes for colored outfits and snail helms. Ah fuck 2004 is almost 20 years away.
18 years on RuneScape, time really does fly. On a break, but still one of my favorites.
I'm 27 and I remember loggin in to RS on miniclip ✌We gettin old
I had no idea it was this OP. Slayer is actually one of my least favorite skills in OSRS and I didn't spend too much time training the skill inside the cave or outside.
Huh. I don't think I was active in osrs at this point in time. I was still playing rs3, and had no idea about any of this. I had no idea that the stronghold slayer dungeon was that massive before! Thanks for the amazing video my dude! Loved it!
When i recently came back I was so confused at how small it is now
@77z member
Damn I remember this dungeon just barely. Was a noob then. I could kill gargs tho. I miss it.
@@lukemorris4065 bruh same lmfao 😂😂😂😂
they really missed an opportunity with adding in a GE next to the entrance of this cave
".. people spent all their time doing the same tasks in the same cave .."
Sounds like Castle Wars before Ancient Magicks came into existence. Ironically, I loved it beyond the mere nostalgia since items were so limited, even having high stats didn't give people and edge and even a single mid-level player could make a difference.
The introduction of Ancient Magicks changed it up a bit and the freeze effect had a great negative impact but it still lasted for a while. Ice Burst and Ice Blitz weren't the worst but Ice Barrage really ruined the fun with its high freeze, high damage, and area of affect all working together-though not everyone had Ice Barrage on release so it had a few months before the fun chilled out completely.
That was in a time where the mentality of rs was very different too, looots of people played veeery casually. A lot of cwars players just outright left and never came back because they never expected to have a high enough magic level for barrage.
If you didn't have barrage, you couldn't compete. That spell RUINED castle wars for most of its players.
By the time I was high enough to barrage cwars was so dead that I couldn't find a single game on any world :p
Not going to lie. When I got my Qp cape on Rs3 the lore was etched in my mind. The quests leading to Guthix dying were amazing. When I got my qp cape on osrs I breezed thru spamming space bar.
Spoiler alert
Spoilers?
@@CatnamedMittens sorry spoiler alert for a quest that came out with a world event about the gods dying.
That's a damn shame then because quests like Sins of the Father, and A Kingdom Divided are really excellent quests. Having played both games and knowledgeable in the Lore for both games, I did not like the direction RS3 took post Rituals of the Mahjarrat (starting with The World Wakes). Having direct divine contact and intervention and having the character be the "chosen one" in a way feels derivative and derails the established story and lore. This is supposed to be a time of mortals held by the fragile balance imposed by the edicts of Guthix. The remnants of the past you discover provide enough mysticism and grandness while still grounding the story to the multitude of storylines affecting the races of Gielinor in their individual conquests, liberations, and schemes. That's my opinion though.
@@LifeForAiur it's also just illogical that there are 100,000s of chosen ones
The history behind Nieve caught me off guard, great vid
Thank you! :D
this isnt the top ten thighs in runescape wtf
LMAOOO
wise old man still beating everyone in that category
Pretty sure gargoyles didn't have their loot buff yet when they went in the cave, I remember them pretty much just dropping granite mauls
If you think about it they really never fixed the exploration for slayer since you are still just going into a cave but it has the exact monsters only then you kill close to 200 then getting another task and maybe going to a slightly retextured cave
I've come back to the game recently and was extremely confused by the changed cave
Good old days of the massive slayer dungeon. Rest in peace my childhood friend
I got so confused when I came back to runescape and my friends were talking about this. I thought they were talking about the old waterfall slayer dungeon in RS2 lol
I would love to see a “history of pvp polls” video
I always knew nieve was hot
I played on release and hell yeah i remember all of this, the nostalgia again strikes :v
It had like 75%-80% of the slayer monsters... and i remember getting my first dfs there from the 2 iron dragons near the lava lol.
Bro me too lmao sold my vissy for 23m back at that point
Dude, I feel like I’ve commented this so much, but DAMN as someone who had no choice but to miss all of this, this is FASCINATING! I mentioned today while streaming that I knew nothing about the old Stronghold Slayer cave cause I never saw it but thought “it must not have been too much different than Catacombs right?”
Damn this was broken 😂😂 great video man and also love the aspects like how the community is sensitive to power creep, et cetera, so funny to see how this unfolded. It was SO broken.
Hahah that's awesome! Also ikr, I was pretty shocked with how broken it became, especially when they expanded it. Thanks for watching!
how is it possible that jagex didnt think that osrs wouldnt last 6 months when the whole reason it came back in the first place was the intense demand for it back and noone was playing the other one.
Iv not played in quite a few years and I loved that cave made everything so convenient but I get why they would change it.
I got 99 slayer in that cave, good memories....
Fantastic video! I've been playing Runesecape since 2003 and I actually learned a lot from this one video :)
I think there are two main reasons slayer was people's favorite skill even when it was terrible and slow:
people used to combat being the main way they interact with games;
staggered reward/randomness leads to more of a dopamine response, it's gambling without needing to put much risk in.
Yeah RuneScape is a lot of that Skinner box stuff. Grinds so long and so brainless that people literally do it on like 5 accounts at a tile because that’s goes little game is in this game.
I really like the quests, the lore, and even a lot of the mechanics are really cool but exp rates are just too glacial in osrs for my 26 year old self to ever see most of that in osrs.
I think RuneScape players may be borderline rеtаrdеd
I've spent a lot of time with Nieve, and never have I ever realized she had a hook for a hand.
I don't play anymore, but I really enjoy your content! This is bringing back memories of the ferocious dungeon in rs2. Smacking gargoyles with my trusty Bunyip
I remember doing partner slayer here with my buddy. Good times, but I'm glad they reworked the slayer caves. It just felt weird to have all of these creatures in the same cave.,
So many cannons...
Very true, seeing icefiends right next to abyssal demons was really odd.
I wish we could get fresh osrs servers
Then they went on and did the same thing in Zeah but this time with a multiarea so you could barrage every creature, far surpassing nieves cave in terms of powercreep bringing along exp/h rates for slayer never before seen almost rivaling those of rs3. Yet nieves cave was the problem I guess... just jagex logic. And the community seem fine with Zeah cave for some reason.
Man I hated that dungeon. Everything being spread out across the world is better.
Wow completely forgot Slayer helm was locked behind a quest called Smoking Kills that brought me back
this is where i trainned to 99 slayer on my main , using cannon /blowpipe , back when blitzing your task wasnt a thing :)
That J1mmy cameo when quests were discussed xD
Damnn IRL Neive is hot, I see you Mod Ash
Ah the nostalgia! Slayer will always be the best skill! I liked this slice of OSRS history! Awesome vid!
Thank you! :D
@@ColonelloRS No u
13:00 is a good point even today. Slayer is "everyones favourite skill" but everyone complains if they dont get a burst or cannon task or a specific monster they can kill for drops. It always seemed to me to be one of those things that everyone says they love it because theyre supposed to say they love it or you get picked on(see also: beer) but they actually think its boring and grindy just like everything else.
i'll be honest i've never met anyone who actually enjoys slayer, it's most people's least favourite skill in my experience
I spent so much time slaying in this dung as a noob when osrs first released. Was sad to see it go. I get a huge hit of nostalgia just looking at it
The most unbelievable part of this video is that Colonello thought anyone enjoyed slayer.
It was and still is the absolute worst designed skill.
This dungeon was the best thing in the game. Ill always remember it because i got my draconic visage in there from an iron dragon on my ironman who was level 71 back in the day. No antifires and poking it with a leaf bladed sword. Good times…
Also dont forget gargoyles only started to become profitable after the slayer monster buff in like 2017. Before that no slayer monster dropped alchables as they do now, gargoyles included.
5:59
* blocks task *
It was convenient but made a lot of surrounding content, and other dungeons obsolete.
Asking about RuneScape lore is so broad though. I mean hundreds of races and species and areas to cover with so much detail
Broo, I remember having to use "the trading post" before they put the g e back in game.
10:25 Reach out. Mod Reach. Get it?
Right at my lunch break… perfect timing! Awesome videos man, excited to watch this.
Woo! Glad to hear that :D
I haven’t played for about 2 years but tried to keep kinda up-to-date on the game. However, I didn’t even know the slayer cave got removed… lmao
Once you max slayer it all seems meaningless, I had to liquidate my account just so I had a reason to "Rebuild" 💀
Yep
Its disgusting how you can have 400k views but only 125k subs.
This guy is one if the few you need to sub to.
I bet these people are sub to people like solo and dino...
I started osrs in 2019 and had absolutely no idea this abomination existed. Well done video.
If it were me I'd bring it back as a holiday event for like a weekend a year or something.
You could call it the Caveday celebration
So Neive exists because he is in the friend zone literally.
I remember coming back to runescape since 07 and watching a guide for slayer, went in the cave and was so confused as everything was different to the video I was watching 😕
I just used 100 points to block that task
Edit: glad you liked it.
man so many things happened in the years i wasnt playing osrs lol. i didnt even know they removed it
2:16 “eat rotten potato “
13:04 it started to become too much like real life.
I remember it getting pretty crowded as you say, especially at gargs/abby demons. I wouldn't necessarily say that nerfing the dungeon "made slayer more fun", I mean in the end you're still killing the same monster just in a different area lol. But it was definitely a needed change cus of the crowding
I was killing Guards for Medium clues while watching this, first step on the one that dropped was to talk to Nieve
Coincidence? I think not
Love the videos! I was wondering have you ever thought of posting your videos in a podcast format to like Spotify or Apple Podcasts? That way your audience can listen to your videos while driving or working. Originally I asked the same question to rswillmissit but thought your content would be great as a podcast as well.
Interesting idea! I’ll definitely look into it :)
Something that I think should be noted is how incredible that early content was with reused assets.
That got removed but everything shifted to zeah but zeah dung is better anyways for everything.
Slayer is actually my least favorite skill in osrs. One of the reasons i hate most other MMOs is because their "quests" are "the big bad evil guy is amassing an army! Go thin out their numbers!" AKA... kill 25 slugs. it was just so boring fighting the same monster over and over again.
Not everything was possible to kill with a Cannon, the aby demon area was Close to a Lake,and when u tryd to set Ur Cannon there you would got a mssg that the floor is to soft for putting Ur cannon there, great old times
Not only do quest cape people not know lore neither did the OS devs lmao. RS actually has a good story that the devs severely messed up when DS2 came out. (Dragonkin shouldn't be involved until after the "while Guthix Sleeps quest" And the stone of Jas is taken by a Mahajarrat "forgot his name")
Real nieve is fucking adorable
Man, I feel old. I actually played osrs when this happened lol
Originally Gargoyles didn't have a good droptable. The poll for that was poll 47.
What makes the slayer helmet "elusive"?
what I don't get is the whole "it's close to neive and a bank" argument.
as large as this dungeon was, you'd be running quite far either way
I was there for that cave and rememeber the day of Diverse Dungeons update. That update was definietely needed since the original dungeon was way too overpowered.
I remember this dungeon but my memory must serve me wrong, because I thought it was a private server lmao
now it's replaced by the catacombs of kourend
They killed Nieve the stronghold will never be the same😢😭
Catacombs of Kourend is the modern day equivalent of this
"But first I gotta pay my bills!" Great Segway into an advertisement 😂
Hahah thank you!
I kinda wish osrs had like a little dungeoneering thing from rs3 melted into the slayer skill
I thought this dungeon was a wierd fever dream. Glad to know I wasnt fucking insane lol
tbh, i think a detailed list of all tabs and it's assigned resources should be a standard in every webbrowser, like a little taskmanager for webbrowser tabs. a tabmanager. it is the one single reason i would consider using opera gx.
Can Confirm, was 75 percent of the tasks. Sometimes the new cave or the cave now seems odd to me.
i missed out completely on the cave because i knew it was packed so I never went
I'm still salty they put krakens all the way in fucking nowhere after this
They're literally next to a fairy ring
I lost my main account and could never play Runescape again after that over 10 years! rip.
Gotta say, the subscribe plug was 10/10. I subscribed, but where are my slayer points?
I did not know that the cave was taken away
Got 99 slay in the old slayer cave. Would spend literal months never leaving the area except for supplies. Rip Nieves atrocity
"Players who are extremely against any kind of powercreep."
That lasted a few months, those people left. Nearly every update passes polls, and every powercreep update passes. OSRS was taken over by RS3 players who think 2010-12 is the golden age of RS long ago. Mat K was right.
i started playing recently again after a few years, this is how i found out the best slay dungeon was... deleted?...
Got 99 slayer there and scored tens in millions whip from Abby tasks. I miss those days
I like how RS3 did their slayer cave in that it didnt have all the tasks making it way smaller and you couldnt cannon in there so it only really offered some ease of competition / better access to annoyingly placed monsters.
That cave absolutely FUCKED every other cave in the game. It was so nice. I also miss the stronghold of safety back in the RS2 days. Those cockroaches were killer xp and dropped so many alchables.
Want to add mouse wheels? Nah, to easy. A great cave? "remove it!"
I miss this cave! It was so awesome
To train slayer and I'm sad I didn't grind 99 on it
"First, I gotta pay my bills"
Great segway lmao
i remember this lmao. Just came back after a 6 year leave.