I did try to cover a lot of churches, but even this isn't everyone in the UK (E.g. sorry, Reformed Presbyterian Church of Scotland.) There's no easy way to cut things off , but I hope it gives a good and broad overview. This video is also the one that has taken me the longest to make of any video on my channel. (It took months). If you want to see me be able to keep working on projects like this one, please consider supporting my work by signing up for a membership at readytoharvest.com
Good overview, but it would be worth pointing out that the Scottish Episcopal Church has independent origins. It is part of the Anglican Communion, but unlike the Church of Ireland and the Church in Wales, it did not break off the Church of England. (It did however take over a couple of Church of England congregations within Scotland, and a lot of (religious) English people who move to Scotland end up attending it, but those are other matters.)
I looked at the comments. Some were happy that their splinter was mentioned and some were disappointed that their fragment was not. Nobody thought this balkanized heretic religious landscape was a scandal.
I would've mentioned the Presbyterian Church in Ireland (PCI). They are the largest Protestant denomination in Northern Ireland, larger than that of the Free Presbyterian Church which you mentioned.
Wow, kudos for making this, can hardly imagine the amount of work that went into it. I kinda got used to the extraordinarily high level of being informative that this channel has in general, but you managed to surpass yourself.
Whoa! This was A LOT... I finished after two separate viewings. I appreciate the depth. I'm sure this is highly valuable to those in study or research. I particularly enjoyed learning about the Afro ➡️ UK denominations.
It was lovely to see the United Reformed Church mentioned in one of your videos, traiditonally though our merger denominations were the Presbyterian Church of England, English and Welsh Congregationalists (1972), Churches of Christ (1981) and Scottish Congregationalists (2000). Thank you for covering British denominations, Joshua.
From Italy. Thank you for this video. I am currently reconstructing my early life in England, where I was born. I was baptised and later married as a Roman Catholic, but I also had close links with the Church of England in two periods, one of which it was with Anglo-Catholics, and later with a mainline Methodist church. Thanks again!.
Wow! I had no idea how many denominations the US had with the UK. I would love to see more videos on foreign denominations. Maybe a video comparing all the denominations in other English speaking countries such as Australia, New Zealand, and Canada would be nice.
As a UK subscriber looking forward to watching this! Will come back and edit this after watching. EDIT: What a great summary! I’ve been interested in discovering new denominations/fellowships in the UK and quite a few of these I didn’t know about before! What’s particularly interesting about Wales (and similar churches in England) is that due to the congregational polity many churches belong to/interact with more than one fellowship. The church I grew up in is part of AECW, EMW (not listed in this video), FIEC and Evangelical Alliance. Many Evangelical churches in the UK are part of these networks for fellowship and training as opposed to submitting to an authority.
Also the language issue. In many Welsh towns there seems to have been a Welsh language and an English language chapel for each group, and the Welsh language congregations of some of them work together.
As an Anglophile who has never been to England, I really enjoyed this episode. While it answered many questions, you mentioned many denominations of which I never heard. You did a great job of stating the positions of different denominations, but the recitation was too rapid to take in really. I shall have to rewatch it several times or perhaps consult the transcript.
A rather informative video, ta, as while I knew of many of the denominations listed, there were a few I didn't. I'm pleased to see the Unitarains and Quakers mentioned, which are the groups I'm affiliated with. I also know that there are many more denominations that weren't listed, like the Liberal Catholic Church and C3.
He got the vast majority. African churches are now ten a penny in British cities...and he did delve into that a bit. Many have wild names. R(h)ema was one he didn't mention that springs to mind. Also Sedevantists/Catholic Traditionalists. The biggest one he didn't mention was the mainstream Presbyterian church in Ireland.
thank you for this video, I’m looking to move to the UK in a couple of years (I currently live in the US) and not much info is out about UK and christianity
The most significant characteristic of the Church of England is that it is the Established Church in England - effectively, it is part of the UK Government. Anglican bishops sit in the House of Lords and can vote on legislation, whether or not that legislation has anythin to do with church matters. The Queen is the Supreme Governor of the Church. Church of England 'Measures' - how the church is run - are defined by law, and changes must be approved by Parliament. The Church of Scotland is the established Church of Scotland, but it doesn't have the same legislative powers.
Would have liked to see a mention of the Liberal, Old and Ecumenical Catholic Churches (i.e. the Independent Sacramental Movement). Glad the British Orthodox Church got a mention. Oh well, they're usually really small groups, and you have to draw the line somewhere. Excellent video as usual, well done.
Saying we (EO) pray to saints is a little misleading. We ask the saints to pray for us. I saw your previous video about orthodoxy earlier and you covered it very well, just a suggestion for this video
Some years ago the Kirk of Scotland was discussing online rites. A newspaper claiming to cover the story asked the moderator of the Free Presbyterian Church (derisively known as "Wee Frees" for comment. This was something like asking the Westboro Baptist Church to explain actions by the SBC.
There's a lawyer running ads on Facebook claiming abuse in the SBC. The lawyer doesn't seem to know or is counting on other people's ignorance that the SBC is basically a confederation.
With regard to the Quakers, British Yearly Meeting is the umbrella body for English, Scottish, Welsh, Manx and Channel Island Meetings; Northern Ireland is part of Ireland Yearly Meeting. Our meetings don't just start in silence but are mostly silent with a few moments of vocal ministry. It is not unusual for there to be no spoken ministry. I know of no Meetings which have water baptism or communion. I doubt that there are any, although some Friends may have dual membership with a religious group that does. You didn't mention Equal Marriage, which is a shame as we were, probably, the first majorish British denomination to push for our right to hold same sex weddings.
I think you would find it very hard to find many 5-point Calvinists among Church of Scotland ministers today. The Church of Scotland no longer recognises the Westminster Confession as a subordinate standard of faith and they removed it from the Church website. Not surprising that the General Assembly gave approval for ministers to perform marriage services with two people of the same sex.
The Westminster Confession may not be on the Church of Scotland's website anymore but these are: "Statements of the Church's faith": "Our standards of belief are to be found in the Old and New Testament and in the Church's historic Westminster Confession of Faith." and in "Report of the Theological Forum May 2021": "It is still the principal subordinate standard of belief in the Church of Scotland, and ministers and elders still subscribe to it when ordained and, for ministers, when inducted to a charge."
Did you notice any trends based upon region in your research? I'd be interested in knowing whether a particular denomination's success is dependent on region or culture.
I can't answer for Ready To Harvest - but statistically and historically, Presbyterianism has dominated in Scotland, Anglicanism has dominated in England (with Methodism popular in Northern England), Wales has had a strong Non-Conformist and Methodist tradition amongst the working class (though Anglicanism remained the national church until the 20th Century), and Northern Ireland has a thesis-worth of notable things to say about the religion, culture and politics of the region - but, in short, an approximately equal 41% identify as Protestant (largest groups: Presbyterian, Anglican and Methodist) and 41% as Catholic. Interesting what you suggest about culture. I must say that the sometimes 'severe', 'stern' and 'austere' image that Scottish Calvinism (particularly in the Highlands) has perfectly matches our sometimes stark, bleak, hard-to-live-in landscape and weather and the 'dour' stereotype of the people. But then again, which came first? Did Calvinism give us a bleak stereotype, or were we naturally bleak to begin with and gave our flavour of Calvinism a bleak name 😜
"One-time salvation experience not taught" in the Church of England. I am sure this must be an exaggeration. It may be true in most parishes, but surely a proportion of the considerable number of churches which claim to be evangelical would teach that being born again happens at a specific time in a believer's life. I've never heard of Evangelical Anglicans being theologically isolated from other Evangelicals. Of course the whole "confirmation" thing may blur that with relation to those who were baptized as infants, but that can happen in many Reformed churches too (should I say "other Reformed churches" given that in most aspects the underlying teaching of the 39 Articles is Reformed?). The other question I have is in regard to the multiple sacraments. This is plainly being tolerated, but does it have any official status? I don't know. I've never heard that the Church of England has any doctrinal basis supplementing the 39 Articles which say "There are two Sacraments ordained of Christ our Lord in the Gospel, that is to say, Baptism, and the Supper of the Lord. Those five commonly called Sacraments, that is to say, Confirmation, Penance, Orders, Matrimony, and Extreme Unction, are not to be counted for Sacraments of the Gospel, being such as have grown partly of the corrupt following of the Apostles, partly are states of life allowed in the Scriptures, but yet have not like nature of Sacraments with Baptism, and the Lord's Supper, for that they have not any visible sign or ceremony ordained of God."
That's all part of a long-running failure to uphold the 39 Articles as a meaningful doctrinal standard, mainly because the Public Worship Regulation Act 1874 was a predictably dismal failure, but its failure led to its de facto being replaced by toleration of views outside the historic Protestant mainstream. We've just had two years of the bishops failing to uphold the 30th article in particular (Communion in both kinds), with us being actively prevented from using individual cups like all other mainline Protestant denominations on the pretext of not wanting to offend the sensibilities of those whose belief and practice diverges from the 28th (that the Lord's Supper is taken only after a heavenly and spiritual manner). As this is manifestly contrary to God's word written (Mt 26.27 "ye all"), it should be deemed unlawful under the 20th; and the bishops who condoned this abuse condemned with the Bishop of Rome under the 19th, and ascribe to them the same jurisdiction in this Realm as the Bishop of Rome under the 37th. Maybe Cromwell was right about the episcopacy after all...
@@charleshappold4637 Depends how you define sizable. There are certainly many high ones but they don't quite count. And a lot of ACs become RCs so a self-defeating movement.
Suspect that Calvinistic Methodists originated in the 18th century revival and that all revival movements at the time were referred to as Methodist (originally a pejorative term given by opponents, possibly starting in their less-than-evangelical beginnings in the "Holy Club" in Oxford?). Therefore they were not a breakaway from John Wesley's "Methodists" which were the Arminian branch of the movement.
There's definitely a link between the Holy Club and the Welsh Presbyterians, although it's George Whitefield more than John Wesley (although the Wesleys too visited Marmaduke Gwynne at Garth at some point).
@@nendwr I'm talking about the fact that some of the men in the Holy Club were living by their own self-imposed rules ("method") and that this was before they had a personal experience of the grace of God. But I have not looked at any books to see if my surmise is founded on a correct memory of what I have read, or not.
I think that the New Testament Church of God and Church of God of Prophecy are primarily Afro-Caribbean denominations which I believe came to UK from the West Indies rather than being UK missions from the mother denominations in Cleveland. The Church of God (Cleveland) has several mission congregations in Scotland which are not under NTCG or CGoP.
African churches are ten a penny in UK cities now. Some of them have amazing sounding names! "Christ Embassy" is one that springs to mind. Others have about ten words in their name.
@@thursoberwick1948 This is different, these denominations were around in my childhood 40+ years ago, and belonged to immigrants from the Caribbean. The influx from Africa and particularly (in the case of Christian denominations) from Nigeria is much more recent and brings new and hopefully in some ways beneficial dimensions to the black community (e.g. one might imagine, in terms of levels of qualification and work achievement, and in a stronger view of marriage). If I remember aright, according to Trevor Phillips, former head of the Commission for Racial Equality here in UK (in this fascinating discussion: th-cam.com/video/m7A-YbEm2Fk/w-d-xo.html ), around half of Caribbean-heritage children now have a white-British parent, and around half of black people in Britain are now of heritage direct from Africa and therefore without the heritage of slavery (or, I presume, indentured servitude, in some Caribbean countries).
@@peterreynolds6235 Correct, but that is not reflected in the government "handling" or whatever you want to call it. Scotland, for example, has never had a major Caribbean population but now has a significant African population. Very different dynamic.
Amongst U K. historic pentecostal churches, the Arminian Wesleyan influence is much less pronounced than the U.S. A good number of independent fellowships and most of the Elim churches affirm eternal security, especially in Northern Ireland. Some would even be Calvinistic to varying degrees in their view of election.
I think its worth mentioning the church of england mini splits: the society of Catholic priests ( priest who see the 7 sacraments and are liturgical very Catholic but affirming female ordination and would suport same sex marriage if the c of e would let them), Forward in faith or the society ( a group with in the church of england who have the only bishops called provincial episcopal visitors or flying bishops, they belive in male only priesthood, are very latin cathloic with the majority being anglo-papulists being they belive the pope not the Archbishop of Canterbury is the head bishop of the church), the evangelical alliance (also practice male only priesthood and have flying bishops - diffrent ones though - and are of a more baptist end of the spectrum), holy trinity Brompton ( a group of church of england mega churches with a modern student based central style - well khown for creating alpha - ) and finaly the open table network who a group 30 active , 15 developing churches of all donations who run lgbt congratulations
*watches just to see what random denominations aren't included so he can mention them* 😂 if you haven't done a video yet on the subject you could do one on the protestant denominations in the Irish Republic 🙂
It is interesting that King Charles has decided he is no longer the defender of the faith but rather the defender of all faiths. This seems like more than just semantics or a bending to the diversity, equity and inclusion agenda but instead a signalling of the diluting of unique values of Protestant Christianity that the Church of England is officially characterized. One could make the case that these values once served to provide a moral framework for Western societies which are now noticeably crumbling.
Why? I've met plenty. In rural Scotland, the Mormons tend to be English incomers though rather than Scottish. In Northern Ireland, they fall into an odd space, since they are associated with Protestants but rejected by them, and manage to annoy both Loyalists and Republicans in both parts of Ireland by various means, often because Americans run them. You forgot Wales though. Welsh Mormons helped set up the famous Tabernacle Choir.
@@thursoberwick1948 I didn’t know any of this. Mormonism has always struck me as a very American religion, something that has little presence outside the US, or their mission areas.
@@intergalactichumanempire9759 Mormonism is probably strongest in some of the Pacific Island nations, like Samoa and Tonga. There are also significant numbers in Chile, Brazil and Argentina. The LDS in the UK probably peaked about twenty or thirty years ago. The Osmonds were a big recruiting tool. Many early UK converts went to the USA, which meant that a Mormon community was not really built up anywhere until the sixties/seventies. Active attending membership is very low - under 10%. In Scotland and Ireland, the LDS is a very urban church. It hasn't established itself well outside the major towns and cities. Rural presence is very low.
@@intergalactichumanempire9759 Also Northern Ireland has about as many members as the Republic of Ireland. Most of the members in the Republic are in and around Dublin and east coast. Protestants are much more likely to convert than RCs - hence the Ulster/Dublin spresd.
@@thursoberwick1948 LDS missionaries were very active in Great Britain from the late 1830s onwards and saw (relatively) enormous church growth there for several decades; but the bulk of the converts ended up emigrating to Utah.
"Semites was a term for an ethnic, cultural, or racial group. The terminology is now largely obsolete outside the grouping "Semitic languages" in linguistics. First used in the 1770s by members of the Göttingen School of History, this Biblical terminology for race was derived from Shem (Hebrew: שֵׁם), one of the three sons of Noah in the Book of Genesis, together with the parallel terms Hamites, and Japhetites. Other members of the Göttingen School of History coined the separate term Caucasian in the 1780s. These terms were used, and developed by numerous other Scholars over the next Century. In the early 20th Century, In Archaeology, the term is sometimes used informally as "a kind of shorthand" for ancient Semitic-Speaking Peoples." "In the early 20th Century, the Racialist Classifications of Carleton S. Coon included the Semitic Peoples in the Caucasian Race, as similar in appearance to the Indo-European, Northwest Caucasian, and Kartvelian-speaking peoples. Due to the interweaving of Language Studies and Cultural Studies, the term also came to be applied to the Religions (Ancient Semitic and Abrahamic) and Ethnicities of various Cultures associated by Geographic and Linguistic distribution." "The terms "Anti-Semite" or "Antisemitism" came by a circuitous route to refer more narrowly to anyone who was hostile or discriminatory towards Jews in particular."
"An individual who should survive his physical death is also beyond my comprehension; such notions are for the fears or absurd egoism of feeble souls. I cannot conceive of a god who rewards and punishes his creatures." -Albert Einstein
It might be interesting to you to know that the gospel of Mark, which is believed to be the first of the gospels to be written, does not mention any of the events after the resurrection. Think what you want of that.
@@Thindorama True, but the Commonly accepted letters have limited information. Basically that he was resurrected and was seen by a number of people. No real details though so that could mean anything.
Not that this matters but salvation isn't guaranteed even though there are Protestants that believe once saved always saved. The Gospel as St. Peter would call it the words of life itself leads people to the Sacraments of the Church which saves them. Though the Sacraments of the Church one receives Sanctifying Grace from the Holy Spirit the giver of life and Sanctifying Grace itself is life the Son Himself in which the invisible is made visible through the Sacraments of the Church like our Lord. When our Lord said whoever eats the flesh and drinks the blood of the Son of Man has life within them the prefiguring of what would later be the Holy Eucharist. So as a Christian we are saved by our Baptism, and like what St. Paul said we work out our salvation with fear and trembling, and as our Lord said only those who endure until the end are saved. Basically salvation can be lost because of unrepentant mortal sin. Think of the time a person is given in this world what they had done or failed to do determins their final destination. Really how you spend that time whether a person is a Baptized Christian under God's Grace or an Unbaptized Non-Christian under God's Law ultimately it's the Holy Spirit Who decides who is saved and who is condemned.
No confessional, reformed, conservative Protestant with the most basic grasp of their own religion denies the mean of grace in the Sacraments, the working out of our salvation 'with fear and trembling' (indeed, to a fault - I've rarely found a more fearful, doubtful, questioning, lacking-any-assurance-of-salvation lot than those Protestants on the more Reformed end of things), the notion of 'enduring to the end', or frankly believes anything crudely called 'once saved always saved'. That some groups of evangelicals may or may not have persuaded themselves of this does not make this the position of either the Protestant Reformation, or the view of most religious, professing Protestants today or through history. Though, the fact that it clumsily and lazily ends up being ascribed by non-Protestants who really ought to know better as 'the Protestant position', when they probably wouldn't recognize historical confessional Protestantism if it hit them in the face with some German Bratwurst, is sadly not that surprising.
When will Protestants return to the faith of their ancestors, to the Roman Catholic Church, the Church founded by Christ and protected by the promises of Christ?
@Jamiehayn This is impossible, because there are several so-called Orthodox Churches, divided among them. For these Churches are too nationalistic, not Catholic (for all nations). They are therefore not faithful to the demands of Christ, the unity of disciples and disciples of all nations.
The church of the British Isles is the Orthodox Church. Churches and monasteries were brutalised and forced into the Latin rite after the Schism. You're not better than the protestants.
303 churches is enough to be the third largest church in Scotland? I'm so disappointed in these islands, including Ireland. Y'all have been blessed by God, so much, what happened to you?!?
You know Luther and Zwingli (and virtually all early reformers) had practically the same view on predestination as Calvin, right? “Calvinism” historically referred to Calvin’s view on the sacraments, a middle way of sorts between Zwingli and Luther. At least I’m assuming that’s why you’re calling him a heretic. The other reasons are usually that one is a Catholic or a Unitarian, neither of which are by and large Christian (definitely not, in the case of Unitarians).
@@EzeBall1710 "Cringe" is your reaction? That's an unintelligible response. If you deny what I say, debate me. I have the numbers to back up my statement.
The Gospel: Plain and Simple “But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.” - 2 Corithians 11:3 Ask someone today if they are saved and you will most likely hear responses like these: “I have accepted Jesus into my heart.” Or “I have made him Lord of my life.” “I’ve been baptized.” “I said a prayer.” Sounds all good and churchy don’t it; but it is difficult to de-termine whether or not a person actually knows the gospel that saves them. These useless phrases don’t describe a thing about what the gospel is and has left a devastating effect of people not knowing what it is that they are saved from nor how they are saved; which leaves a more serious effect of people questioning their salvation. Let’s not muddy the simplicity of salvation that is in Christ with vague church sounding phrases that do not communicate anything. But rather present God’s word with clarity and assuredness. So here is the gospel: plain and simple. Sin was passed upon all men by one man Adam, and death is a consequence of this sin (Rom 5:12). Mankind has an eternal destiny of condemnation and wrath - Hell - because of this sin (Rom 6:23). No matter what good works one might do we are still found sinners in the sight of our Creator God. And all unrighteousness and those who follow get indignation and wrath. We cannot be found righteous for by God’s law we are found sinners (Rom 3:19-20). If we have broken even one law we are found guilty. It is for this reason of not being able to create our own righteousness and being born in a sinful flesh that we need a savior (Titus 3:5). Christ is that Savior, God manifested in the flesh, sinless, died in our place on a cross 2000 years ago. Taking upon him the wrath and judgement that was intended for us sinners. And it is through his bloodshed, burial, and resurrection on our behalf that we are able to have peace with God and forgiveness of our sins (1 Cor 15:1-4, Col 3:14). This good news is unto all but only those that believe in it are made righteous in Christ (Romans 3:22). It is then after we have heard this good news of Christ’s righteousness available to us freely, that we are sealed with the Holy Spirit and we are now part of Christ’s body the church (Eph 1:13) There is nothing that we need to do, no good works that are required, and no bad works that can separate us from our new position in Christ (Romans 8:35-39). Faith and belief in this information from God’s word is the gospel. The gospel is not accepting Jesus into your heart. The gospel is not making him lord of your life, it is not saying a prayer and it is not being baptized with water. So next time someone asks you if you are saved. Give them the clear assured answer “Yes! And let me tell you why!” Find more free resources at: www.graceambassadors.com
I did try to cover a lot of churches, but even this isn't everyone in the UK (E.g. sorry, Reformed Presbyterian Church of Scotland.) There's no easy way to cut things off , but I hope it gives a good and broad overview. This video is also the one that has taken me the longest to make of any video on my channel. (It took months). If you want to see me be able to keep working on projects like this one, please consider supporting my work by signing up for a membership at readytoharvest.com
Does the Roman Catholic Church in the UK have the Ordinariate like the US?
@@jeffkardosjr.3825 Yes it does! www.ordinariate.org.uk/
Good overview, but it would be worth pointing out that the Scottish Episcopal Church has independent origins. It is part of the Anglican Communion, but unlike the Church of Ireland and the Church in Wales, it did not break off the Church of England. (It did however take over a couple of Church of England congregations within Scotland, and a lot of (religious) English people who move to Scotland end up attending it, but those are other matters.)
@@jeffkardosjr.3825 Yes, and there is an ordinariate in Australia as well! Canada comes under the same body as the American Ordinariate iirc.
I looked at the comments. Some were happy that their splinter was mentioned and some were disappointed that their fragment was not. Nobody thought this balkanized heretic religious landscape was a scandal.
"So Joshua, which denomination are we covering this week?"
"Yes"
I would've mentioned the Presbyterian Church in Ireland (PCI). They are the largest Protestant denomination in Northern Ireland, larger than that of the Free Presbyterian Church which you mentioned.
Forgot to say though, otherwise this is an impressive, in-depth list, nice work!
True! I live in NI there is always at least one in every settlement
@@In-Christ-Alone Nice to see a fellow NI person here! God Bless man
Wow, kudos for making this, can hardly imagine the amount of work that went into it. I kinda got used to the extraordinarily high level of being informative that this channel has in general, but you managed to surpass yourself.
I love this as a Northern Irish viewer of Presbyterian and Pentecostal background. Keep up the great videos
did you go from presbyterian to pentecostal or pentecostal to presbyterian?
@@user-bt3cn4xy8zNice question.
As a British person, this was an excellent overview of the different denominations of Great Britain
God and Her Majesty be with you.
Amen.
Whoa! This was A LOT...
I finished after two separate viewings.
I appreciate the depth. I'm sure this is highly valuable to those in study or research. I particularly enjoyed learning about the Afro ➡️ UK denominations.
It was lovely to see the United Reformed Church mentioned in one of your videos, traiditonally though our merger denominations were the Presbyterian Church of England, English and Welsh Congregationalists (1972), Churches of Christ (1981) and Scottish Congregationalists (2000). Thank you for covering British denominations, Joshua.
Wow, I can imagine how much research it took to make this video! I would love to see a similar video done on denominations of Canada.
You almost have a movie's worth of video right here.
Thanks for all the work you do man.
Wow. Loads of information ❗️
Fascinating
From Italy. Thank you for this video. I am currently reconstructing my early life in England, where I was born. I was baptised and later married as a Roman Catholic, but I also had close links with the Church of England in two periods, one of which it was with Anglo-Catholics, and later with a mainline Methodist church. Thanks again!.
Wow! I had no idea how many denominations the US had with the UK. I would love to see more videos on foreign denominations. Maybe a video comparing all the denominations in other English speaking countries such as Australia, New Zealand, and Canada would be nice.
Very informative! I would love similar videos like this for other nations, in particular Canada, Australia, and Germany.
Yes! I second this! US content while extremely interesting, is dominant. I would love to learn about denominations in those listed countries as well.
Loving this video. Keep the great videos coming.
As a UK subscriber looking forward to watching this! Will come back and edit this after watching.
EDIT: What a great summary! I’ve been interested in discovering new denominations/fellowships in the UK and quite a few of these I didn’t know about before!
What’s particularly interesting about Wales (and similar churches in England) is that due to the congregational polity many churches belong to/interact with more than one fellowship. The church I grew up in is part of AECW, EMW (not listed in this video), FIEC and Evangelical Alliance. Many Evangelical churches in the UK are part of these networks for fellowship and training as opposed to submitting to an authority.
Also the language issue. In many Welsh towns there seems to have been a Welsh language and an English language chapel for each group, and the Welsh language congregations of some of them work together.
@@thursoberwick1948 yes, my home church was built in the 1800’s as an English speaking option for migrants from England who couldn’t speak Welsh
Yay, a LONG video! I know what I'll be doing this afternoon!
This was amazing! Great work in covering all this.
As an Anglophile who has never been to England, I really enjoyed this episode. While it answered many questions, you mentioned many denominations of which I never heard. You did a great job of stating the positions of different denominations, but the recitation was too rapid to take in really. I shall have to rewatch it several times or perhaps consult the transcript.
I think this is one of your longest videos yet. Very good! I'd love to see more videos like this.
A rather informative video, ta, as while I knew of many of the denominations listed, there were a few I didn't. I'm pleased to see the Unitarains and Quakers mentioned, which are the groups I'm affiliated with. I also know that there are many more denominations that weren't listed, like the Liberal Catholic Church and C3.
He got the vast majority. African churches are now ten a penny in British cities...and he did delve into that a bit. Many have wild names.
R(h)ema was one he didn't mention that springs to mind. Also Sedevantists/Catholic Traditionalists. The biggest one he didn't mention was the mainstream Presbyterian church in Ireland.
thank you for this video, I’m looking to move to the UK in a couple of years (I currently live in the US) and not much info is out about UK and christianity
My head hurts...
Thanks for the compilation.
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Thanl you so much
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The most significant characteristic of the Church of England is that it is the Established Church in England - effectively, it is part of the UK Government. Anglican bishops sit in the House of Lords and can vote on legislation, whether or not that legislation has anythin to do with church matters. The Queen is the Supreme Governor of the Church. Church of England 'Measures' - how the church is run - are defined by law, and changes must be approved by Parliament. The Church of Scotland is the established Church of Scotland, but it doesn't have the same legislative powers.
Would have liked to see a mention of the Liberal, Old and Ecumenical Catholic Churches (i.e. the Independent Sacramental Movement). Glad the British Orthodox Church got a mention.
Oh well, they're usually really small groups, and you have to draw the line somewhere.
Excellent video as usual, well done.
Very helpful, thank you.
very good summary, I enjoyed this a lot
Thanks for mentioning the Free Church of England and REC.
Saying we (EO) pray to saints is a little misleading. We ask the saints to pray for us. I saw your previous video about orthodoxy earlier and you covered it very well, just a suggestion for this video
Some years ago the Kirk of Scotland was discussing online rites. A newspaper claiming to cover the story asked the moderator of the Free Presbyterian Church (derisively known as "Wee Frees" for comment. This was something like asking the Westboro Baptist Church to explain actions by the SBC.
There's a lawyer running ads on Facebook claiming abuse in the SBC.
The lawyer doesn't seem to know or is counting on other people's ignorance that the SBC is basically a confederation.
The Free Presbyterians are known as the ‘Wee Wee Frees’
@@bogsacheann240 By newspapers, perhaps?
Good grief, exhausting! I lived in the UK for 35 years and didn't know most of these
Sorry that you missed the Presbyterian Church in Ireland - the largest Protestant denomination in Northern Ireland.
With regard to the Quakers, British Yearly Meeting is the umbrella body for English, Scottish, Welsh, Manx and Channel Island Meetings; Northern Ireland is part of Ireland Yearly Meeting. Our meetings don't just start in silence but are mostly silent with a few moments of vocal ministry. It is not unusual for there to be no spoken ministry. I know of no Meetings which have water baptism or communion. I doubt that there are any, although some Friends may have dual membership with a religious group that does. You didn't mention Equal Marriage, which is a shame as we were, probably, the first majorish British denomination to push for our right to hold same sex weddings.
"Britain Yearly Meeting" not "British Yearly Meeting".
Yes, these videos are a creditable piece of work but they are whistle stop, and very much from the outside.
I think you would find it very hard to find many 5-point Calvinists among Church of Scotland ministers today. The Church of Scotland no longer recognises the Westminster Confession as a subordinate standard of faith and they removed it from the Church website. Not surprising that the General Assembly gave approval for ministers to perform marriage services with two people of the same sex.
The Westminster Confession may not be on the Church of Scotland's website anymore but these are: "Statements of the Church's faith": "Our standards of belief are to be found in the Old and New Testament and in the Church's historic Westminster Confession of Faith." and in "Report of the Theological Forum May 2021": "It is still the principal subordinate standard of belief in the Church of Scotland, and ministers and elders still subscribe to it when ordained and, for ministers, when inducted to a charge."
Did you notice any trends based upon region in your research? I'd be interested in knowing whether a particular denomination's success is dependent on region or culture.
I can't answer for Ready To Harvest - but statistically and historically, Presbyterianism has dominated in Scotland, Anglicanism has dominated in England (with Methodism popular in Northern England), Wales has had a strong Non-Conformist and Methodist tradition amongst the working class (though Anglicanism remained the national church until the 20th Century), and Northern Ireland has a thesis-worth of notable things to say about the religion, culture and politics of the region - but, in short, an approximately equal 41% identify as Protestant (largest groups: Presbyterian, Anglican and Methodist) and 41% as Catholic.
Interesting what you suggest about culture. I must say that the sometimes 'severe', 'stern' and 'austere' image that Scottish Calvinism (particularly in the Highlands) has perfectly matches our sometimes stark, bleak, hard-to-live-in landscape and weather and the 'dour' stereotype of the people. But then again, which came first? Did Calvinism give us a bleak stereotype, or were we naturally bleak to begin with and gave our flavour of Calvinism a bleak name 😜
"One-time salvation experience not taught" in the Church of England. I am sure this must be an exaggeration. It may be true in most parishes, but surely a proportion of the considerable number of churches which claim to be evangelical would teach that being born again happens at a specific time in a believer's life. I've never heard of Evangelical Anglicans being theologically isolated from other Evangelicals. Of course the whole "confirmation" thing may blur that with relation to those who were baptized as infants, but that can happen in many Reformed churches too (should I say "other Reformed churches" given that in most aspects the underlying teaching of the 39 Articles is Reformed?).
The other question I have is in regard to the multiple sacraments. This is plainly being tolerated, but does it have any official status? I don't know. I've never heard that the Church of England has any doctrinal basis supplementing the 39 Articles which say "There are two Sacraments ordained of Christ our Lord in the Gospel, that is to say, Baptism, and the Supper of the Lord.
Those five commonly called Sacraments, that is to say, Confirmation, Penance, Orders, Matrimony, and Extreme Unction, are not to be counted for Sacraments of the Gospel, being such as have grown partly of the corrupt following of the Apostles, partly are states of life allowed in the Scriptures, but yet have not like nature of Sacraments with Baptism, and the Lord's Supper, for that they have not any visible sign or ceremony ordained of God."
Correct. The CofE has many flavours in it but some are like that.
That's all part of a long-running failure to uphold the 39 Articles as a meaningful doctrinal standard, mainly because the Public Worship Regulation Act 1874 was a predictably dismal failure, but its failure led to its de facto being replaced by toleration of views outside the historic Protestant mainstream. We've just had two years of the bishops failing to uphold the 30th article in particular (Communion in both kinds), with us being actively prevented from using individual cups like all other mainline Protestant denominations on the pretext of not wanting to offend the sensibilities of those whose belief and practice diverges from the 28th (that the Lord's Supper is taken only after a heavenly and spiritual manner). As this is manifestly contrary to God's word written (Mt 26.27 "ye all"), it should be deemed unlawful under the 20th; and the bishops who condoned this abuse condemned with the Bishop of Rome under the 19th, and ascribe to them the same jurisdiction in this Realm as the Bishop of Rome under the 37th. Maybe Cromwell was right about the episcopacy after all...
Regarding 7 sacraments: Are Anglo-Catholics a sizable percentage of the Church of England?
@@charleshappold4637 Depends how you define sizable. There are certainly many high ones but they don't quite count. And a lot of ACs become RCs so a self-defeating movement.
@@thursoberwick1948 Would some Anglicans agree with Lutherans that private confession [Holy Absolution} is the 3rd sacrament?
Suspect that Calvinistic Methodists originated in the 18th century revival and that all revival movements at the time were referred to as Methodist (originally a pejorative term given by opponents, possibly starting in their less-than-evangelical beginnings in the "Holy Club" in Oxford?). Therefore they were not a breakaway from John Wesley's "Methodists" which were the Arminian branch of the movement.
There's definitely a link between the Holy Club and the Welsh Presbyterians, although it's George Whitefield more than John Wesley (although the Wesleys too visited Marmaduke Gwynne at Garth at some point).
@@nendwr I'm talking about the fact that some of the men in the Holy Club were living by their own self-imposed rules ("method") and that this was before they had a personal experience of the grace of God. But I have not looked at any books to see if my surmise is founded on a correct memory of what I have read, or not.
Where is the PResbyterian Church of Ireland? One of the biggest denominations in the british Isles.
I think that the New Testament Church of God and Church of God of Prophecy are primarily Afro-Caribbean denominations which I believe came to UK from the West Indies rather than being UK missions from the mother denominations in Cleveland. The Church of God (Cleveland) has several mission congregations in Scotland which are not under NTCG or CGoP.
African churches are ten a penny in UK cities now. Some of them have amazing sounding names! "Christ Embassy" is one that springs to mind. Others have about ten words in their name.
@@thursoberwick1948 This is different, these denominations were around in my childhood 40+ years ago, and belonged to immigrants from the Caribbean. The influx from Africa and particularly (in the case of Christian denominations) from Nigeria is much more recent and brings new and hopefully in some ways beneficial dimensions to the black community (e.g. one might imagine, in terms of levels of qualification and work achievement, and in a stronger view of marriage). If I remember aright, according to Trevor Phillips, former head of the Commission for Racial Equality here in UK (in this fascinating discussion: th-cam.com/video/m7A-YbEm2Fk/w-d-xo.html ), around half of Caribbean-heritage children now have a white-British parent, and around half of black people in Britain are now of heritage direct from Africa and therefore without the heritage of slavery (or, I presume, indentured servitude, in some Caribbean countries).
@@peterreynolds6235 Correct, but that is not reflected in the government "handling" or whatever you want to call it. Scotland, for example, has never had a major Caribbean population but now has a significant African population. Very different dynamic.
While this true the mother church sent missioners to the Caribbean to begin with
For what it’s worth, COGOP and NTCOG have “shook hands” since the 2000s. I attended the bi-annual General Assembly when they made the announcement.
Isn’t there an Every Nation church in the UK? I noticed that it was not included.
Has he done a video on or heard of a movement called "the local churches" (witness lee/watchman new)?
Churches in Communites (CiC International) is oneof the fastest growing UK denominations/networks. 300+ ministers/churches in 2023.
Interesting! Germany next? :)
Amongst U K. historic pentecostal churches, the Arminian Wesleyan influence is much less pronounced than the U.S. A good number of independent fellowships and most of the Elim churches affirm eternal security, especially in Northern Ireland. Some would even be Calvinistic to varying degrees in their view of election.
So, basically denominations are mix and match of various doctrines?
You missed Community of Christ. It would be nice to see this faith movement included in the list of denominations.
They only have a handful of congregations in the UK. None here in Scotland. I'm afraid they probably come behind some other groups
I think its worth mentioning the church of england mini splits: the society of Catholic priests ( priest who see the 7 sacraments and are liturgical very Catholic but affirming female ordination and would suport same sex marriage if the c of e would let them), Forward in faith or the society ( a group with in the church of england who have the only bishops called provincial episcopal visitors or flying bishops, they belive in male only priesthood, are very latin cathloic with the majority being anglo-papulists being they belive the pope not the Archbishop of Canterbury is the head bishop of the church), the evangelical alliance (also practice male only priesthood and have flying bishops - diffrent ones though - and are of a more baptist end of the spectrum), holy trinity Brompton ( a group of church of england mega churches with a modern student based central style - well khown for creating alpha - ) and finaly the open table network who a group 30 active , 15 developing churches of all donations who run lgbt congratulations
Hi. Can you help with a query? How prevalent is Calvinism in the C of E? Is it actively taught in churches? I am being told different things.
I’m agnostic and brought up in Newfrontiers but there is something incredibly distasteful in my eyes of the corporate-like logos
Could mistake many of these for a bank.
@@jeffkardosjr.3825 Indeed
Free Presbyterian church of Scotland font is 🔥 looks like Lord of the Rings!
True Jesus Church wasn't mentioned. Has 8 churches in England, 3 in .Scotland and 1 in Northern Ireland.
I have a video on TJC coming up in probably January or February.
Are there any Baptist Bride believers in UK
28:06 Annoying of the Sick??
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Awesome!!
You should do this video but for the Republic of irealand
International Presbyterian Church - name for visual should be "Schaeffer"
Welcome to the UK where we have lots of types of Christians. The Isle of Man is awesome and a great part of the British Isles.
How do JW know for sure who is in the 144k Special group?
Glad to see the Free Church of England included!
I'm in the REC and I was hoping they would be mentioned.
So whats the solution
*watches just to see what random denominations aren't included so he can mention them* 😂 if you haven't done a video yet on the subject you could do one on the protestant denominations in the Irish Republic 🙂
More denominations than followers... I don't think Jesus really meant a MLB franchize system when he mentioned his CHURCH.
Love to see NTCG on here. Which I’m a member of
It is interesting that King Charles has decided he is no longer the defender of the faith but rather the defender of all faiths. This seems like more than just semantics or a bending to the diversity, equity and inclusion agenda but instead a signalling of the diluting of unique values of Protestant Christianity that the Church of England is officially characterized. One could make the case that these values once served to provide a moral framework for Western societies which are now noticeably crumbling.
Forgot the Evangelical Presbyterian Church of Northern Ireland :)
Awesome. Now Australia, thanks :)
I find it very difficult to conceptualize a Scottish Mormon, or even an Ulster Mormon.
Why? I've met plenty. In rural Scotland, the Mormons tend to be English incomers though rather than Scottish. In Northern Ireland, they fall into an odd space, since they are associated with Protestants but rejected by them, and manage to annoy both Loyalists and Republicans in both parts of Ireland by various means, often because Americans run them.
You forgot Wales though. Welsh Mormons helped set up the famous Tabernacle Choir.
@@thursoberwick1948
I didn’t know any of this. Mormonism has always struck me as a very American religion, something that has little presence outside the US, or their mission areas.
@@intergalactichumanempire9759 Mormonism is probably strongest in some of the Pacific Island nations, like Samoa and Tonga. There are also significant numbers in Chile, Brazil and Argentina.
The LDS in the UK probably peaked about twenty or thirty years ago. The Osmonds were a big recruiting tool. Many early UK converts went to the USA, which meant that a Mormon community was not really built up anywhere until the sixties/seventies. Active attending membership is very low - under 10%.
In Scotland and Ireland, the LDS is a very urban church. It hasn't established itself well outside the major towns and cities. Rural presence is very low.
@@intergalactichumanempire9759 Also Northern Ireland has about as many members as the Republic of Ireland. Most of the members in the Republic are in and around Dublin and east coast. Protestants are much more likely to convert than RCs - hence the Ulster/Dublin spresd.
@@thursoberwick1948 LDS missionaries were very active in Great Britain from the late 1830s onwards and saw (relatively) enormous church growth there for several decades; but the bulk of the converts ended up emigrating to Utah.
16:57 in just one second they contradicted themselves
Bet you're all glad you're in the correct Denomination.
Church of God Seventh Day us there as well
The Independent Methodist Church has 69 congregations. Nice.
Very few keep the Sabbath of the LORD or the Passover of the LORD as Yeshua did.
Yeshua is not jesus is name that metratrons name 🤡
@@EzeBall1710 Really? Prove it please instead of making sweeping statements.
Reformed is capitalized.
"Semites was a term for an ethnic, cultural, or racial group. The terminology is now largely obsolete outside the grouping "Semitic languages" in linguistics.
First used in the 1770s by members of the Göttingen School of History, this Biblical terminology for race was derived from Shem (Hebrew: שֵׁם), one of the three sons of Noah in the Book of Genesis, together with the parallel terms Hamites, and Japhetites.
Other members of the Göttingen School of History coined the separate term Caucasian in the 1780s. These terms were used, and developed by numerous other Scholars over the next Century. In the early 20th Century,
In Archaeology, the term is sometimes used informally as "a kind of shorthand" for ancient Semitic-Speaking Peoples."
"In the early 20th Century, the Racialist Classifications of Carleton S. Coon included the Semitic Peoples in the Caucasian Race, as similar in appearance to the Indo-European, Northwest Caucasian, and Kartvelian-speaking peoples. Due to the interweaving of Language Studies and Cultural Studies, the term also came to be applied to the Religions (Ancient Semitic and Abrahamic) and Ethnicities of various Cultures associated by Geographic and Linguistic distribution."
"The terms "Anti-Semite" or "Antisemitism" came by a circuitous route to refer more narrowly to anyone who was hostile or discriminatory towards Jews in particular."
"An individual who should survive his physical death is also beyond my comprehension; such notions are for the fears or absurd egoism of feeble souls. I cannot conceive of a god who rewards and punishes his creatures."
-Albert Einstein
It might be interesting to you to know that the gospel of Mark, which is believed to be the first of the gospels to be written, does not mention any of the events after the resurrection. Think what you want of that.
@@darrylviljoen6227 Yes, such indications are interesting.
@@darrylviljoen6227Though Paul’s writings were before that to be fair.
@@Thindorama True, but the Commonly accepted letters have limited information. Basically that he was resurrected and was seen by a number of people.
No real details though so that could mean anything.
Not that this matters but salvation isn't guaranteed even though there are Protestants that believe once saved always saved.
The Gospel as St. Peter would call it the words of life itself leads people to the Sacraments of the Church which saves them. Though the Sacraments of the Church one receives Sanctifying Grace from the Holy Spirit the giver of life and Sanctifying Grace itself is life the Son Himself in which the invisible is made visible through the Sacraments of the Church like our Lord. When our Lord said whoever eats the flesh and drinks the blood of the Son of Man has life within them the prefiguring of what would later be the Holy Eucharist.
So as a Christian we are saved by our Baptism, and like what St. Paul said we work out our salvation with fear and trembling, and as our Lord said only those who endure until the end are saved. Basically salvation can be lost because of unrepentant mortal sin. Think of the time a person is given in this world what they had done or failed to do determins their final destination. Really how you spend that time whether a person is a Baptized Christian under God's Grace or an Unbaptized Non-Christian under God's Law ultimately it's the Holy Spirit Who decides who is saved and who is condemned.
No confessional, reformed, conservative Protestant with the most basic grasp of their own religion denies the mean of grace in the Sacraments, the working out of our salvation 'with fear and trembling' (indeed, to a fault - I've rarely found a more fearful, doubtful, questioning, lacking-any-assurance-of-salvation lot than those Protestants on the more Reformed end of things), the notion of 'enduring to the end', or frankly believes anything crudely called 'once saved always saved'. That some groups of evangelicals may or may not have persuaded themselves of this does not make this the position of either the Protestant Reformation, or the view of most religious, professing Protestants today or through history.
Though, the fact that it clumsily and lazily ends up being ascribed by non-Protestants who really ought to know better as 'the Protestant position', when they probably wouldn't recognize historical confessional Protestantism if it hit them in the face with some German Bratwurst, is sadly not that surprising.
Why is same sex marriage such a point that needs to be said
because its a good indicator of whether a church is truly Christian or not
You left out Morovians!
@CassKovaxx ; No they are mentioned at 41:53 😇 you're welcome!
When will Protestants return to the faith of their ancestors, to the Roman Catholic Church, the Church founded by Christ and protected by the promises of Christ?
latin schismatic
@Jamiehayn
The Church instituted by Christ cannot be schismatic.
Churches created by men are schismatic.
@@pimagema2620 just as well that the Church instituted by Christ is the Orthodox Church
@Jamiehayn
This is impossible, because there are several so-called Orthodox Churches, divided among them.
For these Churches are too nationalistic, not Catholic (for all nations).
They are therefore not faithful to the demands of Christ, the unity of disciples and disciples of all nations.
The church of the British Isles is the Orthodox Church. Churches and monasteries were brutalised and forced into the Latin rite after the Schism. You're not better than the protestants.
For LCiGB, same-gender marriages are decided per pastor and per congregation
303 churches is enough to be the third largest church in Scotland? I'm so disappointed in these islands, including Ireland. Y'all have been blessed by God, so much, what happened to you?!?
all of em milk toast! lol jk
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Calvin was a heretic!
Thanks for that wonderful "insight".
Still coping.
You know Luther and Zwingli (and virtually all early reformers) had practically the same view on predestination as Calvin, right?
“Calvinism” historically referred to Calvin’s view on the sacraments, a middle way of sorts between Zwingli and Luther.
At least I’m assuming that’s why you’re calling him a heretic. The other reasons are usually that one is a Catholic or a Unitarian, neither of which are by and large Christian (definitely not, in the case of Unitarians).
@@matthewsoules7193Catholics aren’t christians?
Not the time. Not the place.
It's good to talk about the different denominations in the UK, but never forget that England itself is now an Islamic Republic.
Cringe
@@EzeBall1710 "Cringe" is your reaction? That's an unintelligible response. If you deny what I say, debate me. I have the numbers to back up my statement.
All that heretics will burn in hell!
Considering how many are right and everyone is wrong. Looks like everyone is going to hell.
The Gospel:
Plain and
Simple
“But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent
beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your
minds should be corrupted from the simplicity
that is in Christ.” - 2 Corithians 11:3
Ask someone today if they are saved and
you will most likely hear responses like these:
“I have accepted Jesus into my heart.” Or “I
have made him Lord of my life.” “I’ve been
baptized.” “I said a prayer.” Sounds all good
and churchy don’t it; but it is difficult to de-termine whether or not a person actually
knows the gospel that saves them. These useless phrases don’t describe a thing about what
the gospel is and has left a devastating effect
of people not knowing what it is that they are
saved from nor how they are saved; which
leaves a more serious effect of people questioning their salvation.
Let’s not muddy the simplicity of salvation that is in Christ with vague church
sounding phrases that do not communicate
anything. But rather present God’s word with
clarity and assuredness. So here is the gospel:
plain and simple.
Sin was passed upon all men by one man
Adam, and death is a consequence of this sin
(Rom 5:12). Mankind has an eternal destiny of
condemnation and wrath - Hell - because of
this sin (Rom 6:23). No matter what good
works one might do we are still found sinners
in the sight of our Creator God. And all unrighteousness and those who follow get indignation and wrath. We cannot be found
righteous for by God’s law we are found sinners (Rom 3:19-20). If we have broken even
one law we are found guilty.
It is for this reason of not being able to
create our own righteousness and being born
in a sinful flesh that we need a savior (Titus
3:5). Christ is that Savior, God manifested in
the flesh, sinless, died in our place on a cross
2000 years ago. Taking upon him the wrath
and judgement that was intended for us sinners. And it is through his bloodshed, burial,
and resurrection on our behalf that we are
able to have peace with God and forgiveness
of our sins (1 Cor 15:1-4, Col 3:14). This good
news is unto all but only those that believe in
it are made righteous in Christ (Romans
3:22).
It is then after we have heard this good
news of Christ’s righteousness available to us freely, that we are sealed with the Holy Spirit
and we are now part of Christ’s body the
church (Eph 1:13)
There is nothing that we need to do, no
good works that are required, and no bad
works that can separate us from our new position in Christ (Romans 8:35-39).
Faith and belief in this information from
God’s word is the gospel.
The gospel is not accepting Jesus into your
heart. The gospel is not making him lord of
your life, it is not saying a prayer and it is not
being baptized with water.
So next time someone asks you if you are
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Persecutors of the Irish people.