The Lover Within | How Moonlight Relates to ALL Men
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An analysis of the struggle with the masculine identity in Barry Jenkins' Best Picture winning film Moonlight using Robert Moore and Douglas Gillette's book King, Warrior, Magician, Lover.
Sources:
Robert Moore and Douglas Gillette - King, Warrior, Magician, Lover: amzn.to/2HfYEiZ
Filmclips, in order of appearance;
Moonlight
Fight Club
The Wolf of Wall Street
Goodfellas
The Thin Red Line
Intouchables
Creed
Brokeback Mountain
Captain Fantastic
Dead Poets Society
Into the Wild
Cloud Atlas
Silence
The Shawshank Redemption
The Tree of Life
Demolition
Fences
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You brought me to tears man, tears.
Same
me2
Me too
I swear man...bawling like a little baby
Thought i was the only one
I could relate to the dreamer and it hurts
It's time for you to embrace the realised form of the archetype, and the best and happiest version of yourself th-cam.com/video/TrTlIsrmYcY/w-d-xo.htmlm33s
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I felt the same way
Anthony Gerling Then the same applies to you, doesn't it?
Then change, it's difficult but you can do it. I know you can do it!
I noticed that at 8:00, where his phone is shown, although his mothers phone number is saved as Paula, he has a picture, presumably of himself and his mother on his nightstand. For me, this indicates that he is torn between refusing to acknowledge Paula as her Mother and wishing her to be the mother she is supposed to be. For me, this shot shows that deeply, he wishes for his mothers love but he himself is suppressing his wish. I would really like to hear what others think about this thought
Great observation! Now I feel bad for not noticing that :P
Yeah, I've noticed the same... It's a psychological mechanism : pretending to himself that he doesn't need the love of her Mother and that he doesn't love her, so he can't feel the pain of being rejected. What is so true about the scene with his mother is that : it's only when he allows his pain to be expressed that he reconnects with what he really feels for his mother - not only love, but also the anger of being rejected by the only person who was supposed to love him, that's why he's angry "To whom mom ?" (i.e you were never there for me, so I couldn't listen to you) - which in turn allows also her mother to realized her own feelings...
...maybe
this movie makes me feel so much. I relate with his story so much. Especially the mother aspect.
@@trixiepackk same
I'm a 22 year old guy, and I've been a disconnected dreamer since I was a little boy. I don't just shy away from connecting with people in real life, I hardly ever leave comments on the internet, and I've gotten rid of social media as well. Frankly, I feel as though I died at 18, and I often wrestle with thoughts of completing that process completely. I just can't see a way out.
I feel with you man. Just keep on fighting!!!!!!
I feel you brother. Rediscover your creativity and write your story all the way through to the end and then a new beginning will continue on. Only you can make the choices and take the actions to feel life fully again. The pain is apart of life just as much as the joy. We know one because of the other. Reconnect with what ignites your soul and allow it to illuminate the darkness you hide in so that you can perceive your life in a new light expanding your views so that you see the world outside you is of the world inside you.
TreyDay 1018 That was some beautiful advice you gave there brother, I hope he finds some meaning in it.
Well, the fact that you’re still alive means you can change your circumstances. If you’re bullied learn how to fight. If you’re poor get a job and save and open a business it’s all possible
Thats the modern mid-life crisis of the early 20s. Im 27 and just now getti g out of it. You are not alone this is all too common. It helps to connect with others going through the same shit as you and also You should increase your testosterone and workout everyday, take magnesium threonate, lions mane, and 3g of fish oil a day. Stop drinking smoking and doing drugs, listen to akira the don and david goggins. Youve got this. Its time to be who you are and transcend your Suffering
As A 29 Yr Old Black Man From Oakland California Rediscovering My Way. This Was & Is Enlightening!!✨✨ Blessings!! Thank You!!!!!
Good luck on your journey my friend, all the best!
Stay on the path
SO HAPPY FOR YOU
@@andrearomero4028 I Love The Love! Keep Shining Your Light!✨
& Thank You!
@@orchidmusic3556 Will Do! Blessings⛅
I've been in a deep shadow for over a year now and I thought that I was okay for a time but this video has wrenched out all of my pain and laid it bare before me.
There's so much pain...but so much potential. Thank you, LSOO. You have stirred my soul.
Enthios How are you feeling today?
Catherine Fernandez
This is a few months late but I'm much, much better. I've settled into my responsibility; working towards a degree, building friendships, focusing on weightlifting, reading more, and overall just striving for a better tomorrow.
At this point I just don't think about the source of my pain and I try to work beyond it. There are still bad days. But I'm so much better and it means so much that you cared enough to ask. Truly.
Enthios
I know this doesn’t mean much as an internet stranger, but I’m proud of you friend!
We all seem very different on the outside, but we are all united by that source of pain. I know how that feels as well. Let it pummel you to the ground when it needs to, but paradoxically let it make you stronger.
I’m glad you are growing and expanding. Good luck with school and I hope you meet good people along the way!
I believe Nietzche said, “he who has a why to live can bear almost any how”.
I appreciate the update! :)
Enthios I'm damn proud of you' buddy! Keep at it!
@@_Cato_ ❤❤❤ i hope youre still doing well !! The world needs you😊❤
This is quickly becoming one of my favorite film analysis series. All of them are incredibly well balanced studies of film theory and human behavior/philosophy.
I'm a female and this applies to me. I cried. I hate to admit it, but I cried.
Catherine Fernandez
You have a good soul, Catherine. Don't ever let that flame die.
i cried too Catherine. I cried too.
You are very sweet, Enthios. Same to you. Big hug. Let's all remember some tender humanity. Heaven knows how this world tries to break us from it.
Thanks for making me feel less alone with the feeling. Best to you.
very true. the lover is for both men and women although a woman's struggle with the lover energy is likely to be different from a man's.
Hey Tom, that tickled my brain! Thanks for helping me learn somethin' new.
Thank you Will, glad you enjoyed it!
I did not come onto youtube to cry.....but, this connected with me so much
This is the only analysis of Moonlight ever! I want to cry. Broken down perfectly. Made me see some things in myself that were relevant to the subject at hand. The only thing I disagree with is that this movie is at all about race. I think for white audiences it's about race because white people are not the central focus. It's not about race when it's only one race dealing with it's own internal bullshit. Black people have issues all to our own and white people are not the cause of all of them. His issues had nothing to do with race but African-American cultural values which favor masculinity and toughness.
It's not only cultural is also educational. I live in latin-america, and here the education treshold is really shallow. So people are less propense to open their minds and see the world in a different way as how it has been shown to them by their ancestors. Masculinity and toughness is really a must here if you want to survive. That's why our culture is so violent, it even permiated into the maternal way of thinking. If your child isn't the macho archetype most mothers would hate their children. As a man who grew in a fatherless family and with a loveless relation with my mother I understand this movie really deeply. And I had never noticed that detail about the name of his mother in the phone but it hit me hard when I saw it in this video because I have my mothers full name on the phone as her ID. That was really deep and interesting. Also you said is not about race but imagine changing the skin tone of the protagonist to white, latino or any other... It wouldn't change that much the story, would it?
It wouldn't change the story so much but it IS refreshing to see this story being told with black people because it's typical to show homosexual stories with white people. In Europe this film was also interpreted as something racial but generally no one is really accepting towards homosexuality, everyone says they're okay with it but when it comes down to it they don't want their own children to be different because they know it will give them problems in the future. Luckily things are changing slowly and perhaps in 10-20 years we won't care so much about these things anymore :)
Judy Apelsin Idk I think it has something to do with race bc usually, there are people who are like “Black men aren’t gays! It’s something that the Jews or white people have implanted into our black men’s heads, they’re not truly like that!” Or something like that.
For more reference on this issues read "Things Fall Aprt"
Agreed.
Dude, I've been struggling with major depression and affective problems for a long time now. Your channel came to me in a very fortuitous moment. Your videos hit me on a very personal and therapeutic level. Thank you so much.
I did not come onto youtube to cry.....but, this connected with me so much
this was an amazing video
All my friends who are melencholic souls, who are betrayed and who are in grief!! Please know that Universe takes care of u! Keep moving!! Show must go on!!
I think my mom and I have to have a long conversation that I'm ready to have. Thank you.
I couldn't help noticing your TH-cam name. It is divisive and creates unnecessary fear and defensiveness. I urge you to change it.
@@TheLoveMonkey I don't understand, communists are not people
@@TheLoveMonkey also, don't be a whiney bitch.
@@commies.are.not.people dehumanizing your enemy makes you incapable of fighting them because you cannot empathize or understand their motive.
I'll take a commie who sees me as a human being over a capitalist who sees me as inhuman any day
Excited to share this new video on one of my favorite films of last year, so glad it won the Oscar for Best Picture!
Like Stories of Old I absolutely love this film. 👍💝
I have seen it 8 times.
+Like Stories of Old- Recently discovered your channel. That Tree of Life video was amazing! It'd be pretty cool if you made a video on a Lynch film (that is if you're a fan).
Thank you so much for these videos! I love the breakdown of the King Warrior Magician Lover Motifs. I will say, that unlike the King and Magician videos, by focusing on one film, the full range of the Lover archetype was lost and it became more about Moonlight than it was about the Lover. I also think, if we are talking about the Lover in moonlight, we have to begin with Juan, who acted as both a Lover and Magician in spite of the oppressive setting. It is too simplistic to say that Chiron simply replicated the behaviors of a drug dealer when referencing Juan. That relationship was both foundational and atypical. Thanks for these videos. They are lovely.
@Like Stories of Old.
It makes sense that you would use a gay man to make an unbiased look at the Lover archetype. Given that men who look at the spiritual side of things, tend to worship women, using a hetero sexual pairing would inevitably mean demonizing the male in order to uplift the female aspect of love.
That was like the most powerful thing I've ever watched. I loved Moonlight immensely but you've given me a far deeper appreciation now, thank you
This archetype has shown me where my trauma resides. Thank you for the whole series. It might not heal immediately, but it clears a vision of what to do
thanks for writing this comment, my own experience resonates with what you have written.
Damn. When you started talking about the dreamer, I felt like every point was a punch straight to the heart. I knew exactly what you would cite as the next atribute of the dreamer as if I had read or rehearsed ot before. I started tearing up at the bus stop and had to just cower away in a crevice and quickly sort myself out.
On a more positive note, i've now watched all of your KMWL archetype videos, and they are hands down some of the best pieces of analysis on TH-cam. Well done!
This video made my eyes water, my fist clench, my head bow. Thank you.
This... Is literally a depiction of my life. Some of the things you've described, I've felt for years, I thought it was just me being broken.... Thank you...
I really enjoyed your more academic approach to video essays. As someone else said here, I like the balance of brains and heart that you present. Thanks for a new perspective on Moonlight.
I love this video. Six years have passed and it still inspires me like the first time.
Same
Thank you, i’ve been really struggling lately with a lot of pain. This movie spoke to me, more than I like to admit. Your analysis not only added to my experience of what I got out of this film, but heightened/amplified it. Made me cry out of frustration that I didn’t see these things in my first viewing all those years ago. I’m grateful for this channel, I come back to your videos often. Thank you man.
Excellent video, keep at it and you're going to be a lot bigger in no time.
Thanks! Let's hope so!
Wow...he has more subs than u now
@@LikeStoriesofOld you did
I bought the book after I watched your videos. It was a life-changing experience. As many, I had grown up in a fatherless home, and this has truly helped me to find my own path to manhood, real manhood. Thank you so much!
You have some beautiful and inspiring videos on this channel. I love the mixture of head and heart in your style.
This is a great companion piece to Moonlight, as you put into words some of the concepts that weren't quite solidified in my mind after watching it. Your video has also propelled me to explore the King, Warrior, Magician, Lover archetypes further.
Thanks, I read the King, Warrior, Lover, Magician book years ago and love watching movies through that lens, I was always surprised that no one else applied them to film (that I know of). I might do some more in the future if an interesting movie comes along :)
Beautiful. Just like the Masculine. I am rooting for the masculine to reconnect, to heal, to take his place … as a Man … in whatever way plays out the meaning and purpose of this Rising, for him (or the masculine within women). It's time. Rise and Shine.
That was beautiful ❤
I love Moonlight. I loved Chirone as if he was my own child and the entire movie I was so fucking scared for him and just wanted to protect and show him that he is worthy of love. The ending is probably when I was the most scared for him and when it ended I deflated into my chair. So fucking relieved. It's such a masterpiece and criminally underrated.
I often wondered why we grow up not being able feel to be our true self, persistently not welcoming or accepting our own openness. You have given the name to what I lived more than a third of my life with, the Flatten Effect (which I had called the cursed emotion). Also, I was the dreamer from an early age too; and I am still working away from it despite my late internal growth from my father's death 4 years ago. Your video raise some internal emotions that I realize I continue to repress and ignoringly postpone, because I still don't know how to deal with them.
Thank you LSOO, i had a hard time expressing to myself why I love this film but through you essays I see and experience what layers cover stories and what layers I discover in the inner self. Do continue
This video changed me forever. Thank you so much. This video was my reassurance to my being. Everything is connected and happens for a reason.
I love your input so much! Glad I found this channel!
Truly exceptional! As a Jamaican-Canadian of mixed racial heritage who is gay, I especially appreciate the representation you brought to your channel- of a perspective that is surely unlike your own- yet you put yourself in these shoes; your articulation allow many others to likewise see thru an open heart-mind. Thank you Brother Man 🙏🏾 #LSO #OneCircle #OneTribe #OneLove
I feel deeply moved by this video essay. Thank you for this, Like Stories of Old. Really.
Wow! Thank you for that. That's so relatable in so many ways. Amazingly put.
You literally take my breath away with your videos. Sometimes I can barely breathe with so much emotion.
Bless you for keeping us connected and reminding us of the beauty within, despite so much resistance outside of us. 🪔🌺🌸🪔 NAMASTE 🙏🏻
All these years later and this film and your video still helps me and brings me to tears. Thank you.
Your videos are eloquent, sensitive, poignant and uplifting. Thank you!
Not only is the video itself incredibly well made in terms of editing and pacing, the analysis and commentary are clear and full of heart and wisdom. It is because of your channel that I’ve begun to read King, Warrior, Magician, Lover and I can’t thank you enough for introducing these concepts and that book into my life
Your work is needed in this world, thank you for your service 🙏
OMG
Im so grateful to come across this channel. I found you in the comment section of an eternalised video.
I broke down when you started talking about the dreamer
Resonates with my upbringing, always isolated and disconnected.
Thank you
Wow that offered deep insights into some of my favorite films that helped me understand why they are so powerful and meaningful to me. Great job! Thank you for making this.
This is beautiful work. Such a powerful film, and given such a respectful and complimentary treatment here, too. Bravo. From a very happy Patreon supporter.
Hello Tom, you have touched my heart buddy. I feel a ton lighter after watching this video, much love and gratitude :)
Thankyou so much for helping us all learn about the differents facets of our own psyche! Amazing subject well explained!
Great job, man. You certainly have a knack for this.
Finally finishing KWML and this video series has been a really huge deal for me. I've never been much of a reader. It's hard for me to focus on books unless they *really* enrapture me. I first watched your video essay on the King last year and it inspired me to buy the book. I've only just finished the book (after owning it for about a year) and I can positively say that you've helped me get back into reading, especially nonfiction philosophy and psychology. Thank you SO much. I have and will continue to recommend your channel to every one of my friends because you're just that wonderful as a content creator. Every one of your videos, without fail, brings me to tears of joy and hope. NEVER give up this passion of yours. I can tell it means a lot to you and it means a lot to many people. From the bottom of my heart, thank you.
These videos have really helped me. I think I've cried a good 8-10 times watching them. I first watched these for characters I'm writing in books, but they've helped me see so much into myself as well. Thankyou for making these.
Hey new sub here. I have to tell you man. You are not a critic of movies. You are a channeler . You are expressing the true human emotion found in film, which is another form of channeling. You do it so well. Your speech is great and so fluent. Your words alone reach our souls. And everyone who watches your "channel" knows what I am speaking about. Up until 2 years ago I would have over looked the real meaning in most films. Part of the awakening in all of us. You my friend are assisting others in finding the deep part inside us all we are so desperately trying to remember.
This may be the most beautiful video I've ever seen. Thank you so much.
Yea, I cried. You hit my emotions with the visuals. Thank you. It was a long needed release. I can move forward.
One of the best books of all time; the lover is the last form to master in my opinion
If people become obsessed with their inner magician, then warrior, then king/queen, it becomes a lot easier to fulfill the lover archetype
Wonderful. You are really amazing. This is really amazing. Just wow.
This video is so beautiful, thank you for opening me up to Moore and Gillette. And thank you for your beautiful videos
God man this one and the one you did on the movie The Grey brought me to tears. You are a phenomenal analyst. Thank you.
My! I can not even say how much I like the approach of this chanel. So beautiful, great content: smart and touchful.
This was truly beautiful!
all four videos made me cry man, fricking all of them
thank you.
Wow! Really enjoying your videos. Informative and reflective. Thank you. xx
This is absolutely beautiful. Thank you.
I've been waiting to watch this video for a few weeks now. The title was enough to make me go get the movie and watch it before diving into this one. I watched the movie last night, slept on it, and then watched your analysis this morning with some coffee. Thank you for your work! Now it's time to go do mine.
Brilliant. Thought I couldn't appreciate the movie anymore and find myself appreciating it more after this. Bravo good sir.
Subscribed and I can't wait to see the content you put out. Seriously, amazing work.
I love these videos. Thank you for gifting them to us all.
Every time I watch this I choke back the tears, fantastic content !
i always watch your videos to go to sleep. not because they’re boring but there’s just something nice about going to sleep hearing your analysis on movies. it’s 3 AM and i’m barely heading to bed so i’m gonna watch this. happy late New Year everyone:)
I don't think I've ever been so emotional from watching a TH-cam video before. Thank you for that gift.
Thank you so much! Your description and dissection of the movie on manhood greatly touched my heart
Beautiful video. You are an incredible orator.
your all videos are the best on youtube! your deep analysis, music, selections of shots all are very well synchronized . two thumbs up
Reading the comments is very emotional. You made a video that allowed people to be vulnerable together and open up ❤
This is so beautiful! *sobbing*
That was great, beautiful. Thank you. I love your channel ;)
Really great analysis, got choked up watching it.
Your voice is really soothing and your messages are really enlightening.
What a magical analysis. Thank you.
Wow. I need to rewatch Moonlight. Thanks for this
Bless you for the incredible job that you're upto!
Very beautifully done!
Your video made me cry. Beautiful analysis for a beautiful movie.
You have an amazing style with your videos. They are touching and inspiring in many ways. Thank you for thath. Keep up the good work!
This video is everything I needed. Thank you so much
Thanks so much for making this. I cried.
This is incredible. Every bit as spectacular as the movie. Thanks so much. Please keep doing what you're doing!
This is a great channel...Thank you for your deep insights...
absolutely loved the video. thanks for so many insights, i do feel enlightened.
your video atmosphere is so gentle and calming
Still find myself returning to this, this is probably the only time an analysis of anything has made me feel something, if only that it's very hard not to relate from where I'm from. If I'm honest to myself, there are feelings of resentment related to every aspect of my life that I bottle up inwards and let out in private. I don't feel at home in the gender role I'm in, but it's so hard to branch out when everyone is policing each other.
Have you considered distancing yourself from the toxicity in your life and start over? I did something like that and it vastly improved my quality of life. I don't know your situation or your age of course, but if you someday get the opportunity to start over and start finding people who accept you for who you are, I highly recommend it. It might even help mend some toxic older relationships if you put some distance between you and them? I hope you find your way through this patch ❤
@@plantemor Really good advice, thanks a lot!
your review touch deep into the heart man. i shed a tear watching your analysis. you are a talent bro. keep that up
Damn man, that's not the first video of yours that makes me cry
Your channel is amazing, I am hooked. So much amazing information in your video essays, please keep making more great content!
This is beautiful. Thank you.
I watched all your other videos. But this one is the most beautiful.
truly amazing videos!!! keep up the good work man.
Real enlightening. That was beautiful
Wow. A very well made discussion on this topic. I look forward to your videos in the future.
Thanks! Already working on the next one! ;)
This video was great! I loved Moonlight so much and have watched it many times since it came out but I really enjoyed this perspective and what an emotional video. Great Job.
Thank you for this video.
such a beautiful movie. I tear up every time I see that final scene. great analysis
I needed to hear this.
Thank you.
I'm so glad I found your channel.