ReignBot you just made me realize why I'm so interested in true crime. Somewhere around 5:30 when you begin talking about the increasing coverage of high profile murders/serial killers in the early 90s...I was a kid when all that was happening. There was no internet/cell phones/cable for most people. It seemed as though the news was always on and because of it I found out what a rape and murder were at a VERY young age. P.S. I grew up in Milwaukee.
ReignBot MAKE A VIDEO ON THIS GIRL who killed a little girl, who was like the angsty emo teen, and there are lots of fan videos of her on FB/YT as if they see her as a female Jeff The Killer. SMH th-cam.com/video/Z9pTlCC7ovI/w-d-xo.html There are tons of videos Aylssa Bustamante
but these women will never have children. they will only settle for school shooters and serial killers, a normal guy with a nine to five job isn't good enough for these wackos lol.
I don’t condone dropping your unwanted elderly relatives at a home but if I heard a family member or even friend say that: I would put them away, that shit’s not okay, and if someone showed me their tattoo of a serial killer’s name/symbol/etc and fantasize to me about how they love them and want them in bed. That’s one phone call away to the nearest facility, I have an interest with true crime, but I don’t wanna have rough sex with Charles Manson. There’s a big difference with having an interest and being all out crazy on the true crime side of things.
It's not too weird or weird at all. My sister in law has a tattoo of Charles Manson and no one has ever asked her why. I just think most of the people on TH-cam or very sheltered and can't understand people who didn't trap themselves in the house growing up and have street knowledge
Imagine being murdered and instead of people being remorseful towards you and angry about it they just want to talk about how hot and tortured the murderers are.
If I would be the murderer, I would just tell them that they’re creepy, and I don’t love them at all. I wonder how they would react when their “idol” says they’re disgusting.
@GGR Makes bro just use the heavenly dream powers to slowly kill them in the dream because I’m pretty sure you can do that have you heard the stories of people’s kids who met their dead relatives in dreams like that’s what I want to do just say “yo heaven’s real dawg praise the lord and time goes by super fast, by the way here’s a comic book I wrote you can do that here it’s called battle for mythique, based off of previous projects I had on earth, by the way is Timmy doing good tell him I said hi ok”
my aunt had one of her best friends killed by Ted Bundy. i will never understand people who could stan that, not after seeing the pain she still goes through.
They say they can empathize with these people more, portray themselves as more empathetic than the normal person, but at the same time they can't empathize with the actual victims of their actions.
@@johndotcue exactly. idk f you know but theres this school shooter, Devon Erickson and long story short he was wronged in court and he's getting hate when he was coerced into helping in a school shooting, drugged, then threatened. I don't like what they both did they're obviously shiit people but devon was musically talented and had a life ahead of him that he could've done a lot with but Alec and him met and thats when it went downhill. But I also don't like Devon because he would make school shooting threats ( he would stand close to you and tell u not to come to school then laugh, etc. ), bully other kids to the point where the guy he bullied was going to the school EVERY WEEK to report bullying, not mention I heard that he choked a student in 8th grade and touched underage girls asses at concerts. I also feel really bad for Kendrick Castillo he died when he got shot. he jumped and saved other people along with 2 students when nobody else would, man had to do what he had to do. See how I'm able to empathize and see his point of view but at the same time hold him accountable and NOT romanticize or like him...? i wish those columbiners could do that smh
My mom and I were watching The Ted Bundy Tapes the other night and we got into the subject of women sending him letters. My mom laughed and said "On the day of his execution my friends and I turned off our power so the jail could have more electricity for the chair." She lived in Florida during college and apparently lived near where he was being held.
I went on a date with a girl who was into this stuff. I had no idea at first, but she brought it up and I was like “oh yeah, that stuff is interesting” then she told me she was actually obsessed with the Columbine guys and wanted to have two sons one day and name them after the the shooters. She knew everything about them and it was creepy. Needless to say, that was our only date.
My dude, I hope she doesn't know where you live. She's going to snap one day. I remember my senior year (2010) Tumblr was relatively new and I saw so many girls like this. It makes me wish I could look up how many of them went on to actually become violent criminals themselves. It's been almost ten years since then so I'm sure that's plenty of time to lose your mind.
This is actually disgusting. They weren’t fictional characters, they were real people who killed real people Whatever problems they had it’s not an excuse
I had a girl in my forensics class that talked about the Columbine shooters like they where the popular boys, she straight up said to the teacher that they where cute and miss understood.
@Oliver Von arx see how long they'd be "into it" if they became the victims of the attacks. "Oh I loooove Ted Bundy" until you get in his car and that's the last time you're seen alive. Fucking crazies.
I want to die same, ik im not gonna havr a child for a few years but i have made up the decision that im never putting my child in any sort of school im going to home school my child cus tbh i dont feel safe putting a child in a school anymore
JLynnEchelon here a tip be more scared of the pistol than a rifle since they are smaller also you are more likely to die from a stab wound than a gun shot. Last but not least you are not likely to be involved in a school shooting as the odds are similar to being hit by lighting
I'm so sure that the Tumblr users claiming to desire the affections of the Columbine shooters would be scared shitless if they were put in a room with them.
Damn that's what I was thinking all this time. Pretty sure the killer would even hate them or find them as very annoying. Theres a spanish saying that in english means "Raise ravens and they will pluck out your eyes" and it applies to this perfectly
Right...I don't understand the mentality of "oh if they had known me, maybe we could've prevented the shooting, because we would've had each other" like these dudes were probably disliked for a reason...I'm not saying they deserved to be bullied but if you're not liked and don't have a relationship then maybe you're doing something wrong? Idk..
@@TemptRose Yeah this type of people dont care about anyone, they dont care about your life even if you were nice with them since day 1. Its so pathetic seeing people trying to justify their actions and defending such assholes that would take innocent lives just for fun
@@te6607 So all 13 people they murdered and 21 they tried to murder bullied them? Every single one of those 33 students and teachers directly bullied these "heroes"? It's one thing to take the life of only your abuser, but to gun down innocent people in the name of some twisted idea of revenge is inexcusable and indefensible.
While the nicknames seem od, I have seem a fair number of Nazi fangirls on sites like Deviantart, most of the focus being placed on Goebells and Mengele. It's truly an odd world out there.
I mean, I have a big interest in serial killers for how their brains worked and stuff like that. But to start romanticizing them is just plain scary, unhealthy and extremely dangerous.
Same here, I wish there were communities I could speak/discuss about the psychology behind the killers but I can't find any that don't touch on the romantic/fetish side of things
I wonder if it’s some really deep lizard brain reflex for some people- if someone is dangerous, and much stronger than you, you can either bite the bullet and fight them, avoid them, or figure out how to ally yourself with them.
Dude, same. I’m like a very empathetic person and I always try to find a way to understand them and what’s going on in their heads even though i can’t relate to them but serial killers are interesting. But it’s so uncomfortable when you think about people who romanticize serial killers and say school shooters are their idols. I as a student am very terrified of people like them.
yeah like, if eric and dylan were "sooo different" and "sooo misunderstood" why dont you go talk to the quiet kid who sits by himself at lunch? it just seems like theres only sympathy for the ones who commit atrocities rather than the ones who are actually suffering from bullying.
LMAO EXACTLY!! When these peoples’ classmates agree to ignore someone/some people, do they participate or do they actually talk to those people-risking themselves getting added to the ignore list? Chances are they participate to ignoring, even if reluctantly.
It's like "Oh he killed several innocent children who've never seen the world but he's cute." He's not cute, he's a terrible person who killed children. Or "he shot up a theatre filled with innocent people but he's cute". What goes in there sick head to make them love over a shooter/murderer
fun fact: the reason marilyn manson named himself that was because of the medias habit of making murderers as famouse as actors and singers. of course you had marilyn monroe who was a famous actress (good kind of fame) then you had charles manson serial killer (bad fame). so the point of his name was the whole ying yang type thing its made up of 2 famous people but for drastically different reasons. this also goes along with his persona of being a hero to some and villain to others.
Thanks for letting me know. I think that Marilyn Manson came up with his stage name is because he had been influenced by M. Monroe (the good side of being famous) for a pretty long time, and the deceased C. Manson (bad side of fame), and saying that everyone can be positive & negative at the very same time.
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When people sympathise with murderers because they were bullied or abused as a child. Yet this does not excuse murder. I remember after the Florida shooting, the kids were standing up for themselves and when the police stated that the shooter was bullied the kids went to Twitter and stated 'so was I, but he shot at me'. Nothing excuses murder, rape, or any type of crime. Not mental health. Not bullying. Not abuse.
While it does not excuse it, nobody's brain work the same. I do not support or excuse what they did, but it's important to understand that their motives were because of this type of thing. It is important to see these flags to try to prevent this from happening again.
It's not an excuse, but everyone draws the line somewhere. One guy might fight over being pushed, and another guy might let himself get beaten so he doesn't have to fight.
the "he was a normal teenager just like everyone else!" and "he was bullied!" defenses are so gross. yeah, he had a life like any other and yet he chose to murder tons of innocent people. theres nothing to sympathize with. wheres the sympathy for bullied kids that didnt slaughter dozens, or is your sympathy only for murderers? disgusting.
Hell as someone whos dealt with mental illness, abuse, and general bullying i havent even THOUGHT about committing something like a school shooting, and even if i did itd be an intrusive thought that id refuse to act upon bc i know thats not what i want. These people are just evil and disgusting
Phil DeFranco makes a valid point when he says the best thing for the media to do regarding these killers is to not air their names or faces, and to instead focus on the case itself and the victims. If they aren't made famous, it's more difficult to form a fandom around them.
Or just make their media names different. Nobody will want to simp over 'The diarrhoea plagued Masker' or 'The micro-penis machete killer'. I swear the names they give killer's are half of the appeal.
I'm fascinated by serial killers and the like, but the true crime fandom is just embarrassing... Like calm the fuck down, Jeffrey Dahmer isn't your dad and Dylan & Eric are definitely not your husbandos, they're disgusting people who commited atrocities and took the lives of innocent people.
It's just super disgusting. I read through comments on crime documentaries and I am just so shocked at what I am reading. What type of sick person fan girls over people who killed other people.
Anime Lover Believe it or not, there is a rare orientation where people are sexually attracted to a person who has committed a crime, whether it be petty theft or mass murder.
Anime Lover I don't know. The people themselves are, as I said, very rare; sadly, many...groupies in this fandom also claim to have this orientation or would like to claim that they do.
i want one of those fuckers to date a serial killer, think they're going to "ChANGe HiM" like hes fuckin kevin levin or sasuke, only to get tortured painfully and die; realising their stupidity in their final moments.
I looked up the hybristophilia tag on tumblr and now I feel sick. I am interested in true crime and serial killers, yes. But do I romanticize or idolize them? No. These people are messed up, truly messed up.
Also, I understand bullying. I have been bullied. I understand that in most cases, murderers/serial killers/criminals have a terrible past. However, I do NOT believe that is an excuse at all. I can sympathize Dylan and Eric for what they went through, but the sheer terror that they caused nearly blocks that out entirely. I am not a ‘Columbiner,’ despite my interest in the psychology behind criminals.
I actually watched My Friend Dahmer for the first time last night. The way that Ross Lynch portrayed Jeffrey actually made me really uncomfortable, as well as second hand embarrassment at those scenes where he made the weird noises. But to hear someone who know and/or was close to Jeffrey say that Lynch actually did a really haunting job at playing the titular serial killer himself, was what really made me impressed. To be able to act to the point where someone who knew the character you play as say that you were just like them, is insane. Ross is an amazing actor, and I hope he gets more roles like this in the future. You *know* he'll put his all into it.
Yeah same, him 'doing a Dahmer' or how it's called made me uncomfortable but Ross is a really good actor and I think no one else could play this roll as good
He didn't get enough credit for that role imo but I have go agree the movie fell kind of flat. Replay value is about 5%... lol. He really did play the shit out of that part though!!!
Alyson Lima I don’t think it was a bad movie. I think it gave you a lot of insight on who Jeffrey was and to me that was pretty interesting. I get it, he didn’t kill anybody and there was no plot twist but that’s just because John Backderf wanted it to be the real story and not some kind of dramatic horror thriller.
People obsessed with any kind of killer in a romantic or sexual way really confuses me and grosses me out, like I love true crime and find it very interesting to read but I can’t even read and learn about true crime without some weird fanfic coming up or some girl posting a picture edited with hearts, I don’t see the appeal it’s very weird and quite concerning.
They're the same creepy people that idolize convicts and want to marry serial killers that are behind bars. Deeeeeep seated psychological issues abound in those folks.
It scares me that people can be so.. enamored with serial killers, etc. It truly makes me question their mentality. Hell, it makes me question humanity in general.
Someone can have emotions while still empathizing with killers. It doesn't even mean that they condone them killing people, it could just mean that they relate to the killers and understand their motives.
I can totally understand being interested in them from a psychological and mental perspective, learning what creates these types of people can teach us a lot about humanity in general and how to prevent cases like them from happening in the future. But when interest turns into worship, it becomes an even bigger problem.
Ok, when I was a teenager I've met a girl who was really obsessed over Columbine shooters. She was bullied a lot on school and at home (yeah, her mind probably was not a good place to be at that time). She was totally into this till the day our country woke up with the news of our own first school mass shooting. She was terrified... She used to be someone who don't care about those kind of victims and suddenly they're "nearby" and she got very sad and upset. She was really frightened. So she made a bold move (considering her emotional patterns) and went to some psychological evaluation. Today I think that when a mass murder happened "near" her, probably she got the real instance of the horror that was perpetrated in Columbine. Well, one year later I remember she was starting to show some confidence to other people and was more focused on studying. I've lost contact with her since we graduated, but I just checked her Facebook page and apparently she's doing well now, she seems smiley and do have some friends. I think she was able to "erase" these things from her head. Good for her. Maybe in her case she wasn't bad person, but instead a very confused and alone girl who wanted to get some revenge because her life wasn't the way she thought it should be? I honestly don't know but she seems great now and I feel relieved for her.
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Some women like gay men, its a fetish. In the case of Dahmer there is a fetish within fetish. But it is all normal. Most people are just not open minded enough to understand female sexuality.
@@mirianakovachevic748 ...Nothing to do with female sexuality. Even we women call them stupid and mentally unstable (which is the worst combination). Don't turn this into a feminist thing because even the most hardcore feminist wouldn't defend that type of behaviour, it goes against everything women fought for and still fighting for. To lust/love men who objectified, abused, raped and murdered women is the worst offence you can do as a member of the same sex.
As someone from Broward County, someone who's had friends cry for days over friends who they won't get to see again, seeing anyone fawn over Cruz makes my blood boil
ballooj Too late for that. :/ I went through posts about the shooting maybe a few days after it happened, hoping to find more people who were dealing with a similar situation to mine. Lo and behold there were already posts talking about how "hot" Cruz is and how they want him to be their valentine.
As a person who is interested in true crime, I would like to say, we are not all like this. I enjoy learning and researching the psychology of the killers, the forensics on how they caught them and the biography of the victims and killers. However, I do not like school shootings, and most people who research true crime, aren’t interested in school shooters. Mainly because it is boring. No forensics. No hunt for the killer. Nothing that makes them stand out. The backstory is always similar. I try to keep it respectful when researching cases. It’s something my dad, my mum’s best friend and I have a DEEP fascination for. We have debates about unsolved cases, go to talks and conferences from criminologists and psychologists on killers and why they kill, we watch documentary’s together, and I have even set my goal in life to become a homicide detective, in order to put my interests and skills I have learnt to good use. Sometimes my grandma (who also watched documentaries on things like that) joins in. She can’t always because of her bad legs and back. She can’t stand for long. Bless her. In fact, my MAW is going to be to ‘solve a murder with the police’. These people are nothing more then horny 15 year olds who lust after boring people who killed a lot of innocent victims. I would like to say rest in peace to all of those who have passed from someone evil, whether they be serial killer, murderer, mass murderer or any other act of violence.
You put this so well into words! I’ve been interested in true crime since I was a kid, but mass shooters never caught my interest for the exact reasons you listed. Good luck with your future career.
I know, I hate it but it was so insightful and new to me. The *_"tOrTuReD sOuL"_* shit, despite being of good intentions, intersects with sexuality, devolves into obsession, and results in betting the metaphorical house of her life on lottery-winning odds; hoping that her devotion will pay off and magically *fix him* emotionally; all that bullshit I can kinda believe them saying, no matter the actual success rate, and have heard of, I just forgot about it until it was brought up here, but the _"perfect boyfriend"_ shit?! Damn, that's one of many possible examples that may be combined with the other explanations and motives, and it has a sort of Lawful Evil genius to it, like, holy fuck, I *hadn't* heard or thought of that until seeing this; eerily illuminating to find out that being one of the pieces of the puzzle. 😨
Being interested in Crime as a whole, from a Psychological and Sociological standpoint, crime affects us from the community downwards, I love studying crime as gives me a story behind all the data, I abhor these crimes like normal people would, but I hate being lumped in
There was a girl at my school who had three of these columbine accounts. She loved Dylan, it was gross. Let’s just say... She got kicked out of our school
@Reb and Vodka TM Call me Ella lol your 10? Look kid you got time to figure out your life so please do it before you become even more of a messed up person
Reb and Vodka TM Call me Ella lol dude in the Florida shooting there were kids who were bullied and abused they told him he knew and yet they said I quote “he still shot at us”
Yeah i dont like making fun of people who think like that cuz theyre usually kids who dont properly know how to express themselves but ffs they need a serious reality check omg (and ur probably right lmao)
@Username I'm into some weird shit but snuff fetishes, bestiality and pedophilia aren't weird. They're straight up a destructive problem. That shit ruins people's lives.
I was as well actually only 2 days ago which is mainly why I watched this video. I didn't find out until I slept over at her house. I found her sketch book under her bed (I was sleeping on the floor and spotted it) and because her room is fairly clean most of the time, I thought it was weird so I pulled it out. I regret it because though she is a good artist, her sketches were sexually graphic. I simply got up before her at 6 am, informed her parents, and left. Haven't heard from her since but I think shes being sent somewhere for health. Mental health that is..
I feel disgusted that there are people like you who are so close minded that they don't realize how it would be nearly impossible for people like this to not exist.
In my country there was this one school shooting many years ago. And about an year ago a late teen girl was arrested for planning another one. Turned out this girl was madly in love with this shool shooter and visited his grave constantly. She even took some of the gravel from the grave to her home and had altar for him. She believed she was in relationship with this shooter. It was shocking really. Luckily people found out about her plans and she was arrested before she could do anything. Edit. This happened in Finland. U want source? Pretty much all are in Finnish bc outside world dont seem to rly care what happens here so they dont write about. This was all over Finnish news papers while ago. Edit edit. One lovely person got u couple English sources down in the comments. Rest of the source are in finnish and there are not much info in English
That's rookie style, invent the matrix and put them in a simulation tweaked just enough so they feel the need to repeat their actions but have it set up in such a way they'll mentally unallow themselves. Nothing beats torture like torture of the mind. Welp, no more I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream followed by TH-cam at 2am for me.
I’m in the “lock them away and forget they exist” camp. Making a spectacle or getting moral satisfaction out of the punishment is exactly the fuel that feeds the fires in these killers’ bellies. It’s an almost religious devotion to raining fire and brimstone on your enemies, that keeps the cycle going. Imagine what would become of these perverts who idolize these kinds of people, if anyone who committed these types of violent acts simply got locked away and basically erased from society. They’re no longer a “bad boy”, no longer a “tortured soul”, anyone who does these things just gets erased from public consciousness into total blackness (metaphorically, materially I just mean simply locked away with no fanfare and no media exposure). Their names never mentioned, their faces forgotten, their fantasy of “SHOWING THE WORLD THE MONSTER IT CREATED MWAHAHA” totally subverted by deleting their presence. Gone, no identity, just collecting dust, being truly a nothing-person.
Sadly. I knew someone, who was very very very close to me. He basically knew everything about me, and we considered ourselves family. I actually lost contact with him, and i was lurking in a group chat i was part of, and someone mentioned him. Someone saw on this guys instagram (the friend that id lost contact with) that he made Vent art of the Columbian Shooters, and even cosplayed them. He also told another one of my friends that he wanted to bomb snd shoot up his school. I immediately blocked him. And havent talked to him for a few months. The scary thing is, i was talking to a future school shooter. And the fact he knows such personal information scares me.
@@patochantk I don't have any updates, and he was reported to the school. I still don't have any contact with him, but I'll see if he posted anything else. He's done a lot more than I listed, which, I'll be happy to reveal.
chibiyaten15 If information comes out that he was bullied or an outcast they will. And he's alive so he'll get more coverage. More books, etc. Hold onto your butts.
oh there’s been a fanbase for him since like, the day it happened. there’s all these girls making picture edits of him with like some stupid blushing effects or whatever and then they’re like “what a cutie!! uwu” and they’re sympathetic towards him, so obviously history repeats itself, especially in the tcc
Exactly! It’s completely normal to be interested in crime, that’s why the Discovery ID channel is so popular. I’m interested from a psychological view because I can’t wrap my head around how someone can kill another person like they’re a fly. But these weird fuckers turned interest in crime into fetishizing murderers which is so wrong on so many levels.
@@rahulsolanki857 I’m a true crime fan, but these people are insane, judging by these people and how far gone they are, they probably pour the milk first.
PEOPLE ARE DIFFERENT. Some individuals obsess over movie stars & celebrities while other individuals obsess over school shooters & mass murderers. Trey Sesler is a perfect example of this. His hobby was Anime but his obsession was school shooters. And look what he did and look how he ended up with in the end.
Raging Artist There was a school shooting threat at my school on the last day and I was scared to death, I stayed home and cried so hard thinking about what could’ve happened to my friends.
I live around 15 minutes from parkland and we had a shooting threat and a bomb threat in the same week, during that week the fire alarm went off shortly before the last period and my teacher was physically upset because she thought she might be leading us to our death but she had to make a decision, this is scary, and it’s real and not some sort of fan fiction
As a person that was involved in a shooting which basically ruined my fucking life I get so fucking angry at those angsty thots that want to hop on a shooters dick. Why the FUCK would you want to fuck a dude that killed several innocent students? I really don't understand, jfc.
Ember D&T I'm alright talking about it, don't worry. There really isn't much to tell though. It was the school shooting on March 11th 2009 in Germany, Winnenden. I was in 5th grade in the classroom and suddenly we heard loud noises from above and a few minutes later how people were falling down from above. The class next to us ran outside, telling us to run since someone is shooting up there. Half my class (including me) ran out the window to the public swimming pool since it was the only building near us where we could get help and the others went there too. The other students stayed in the classroom but ended up meeting us hours later at the pool as well. When we arrived at the pool we saw lots of older students (from the classrooms above) wounded and covered in blood. I got taken to a friends house where my mom picked me up and hours later I got told what exactly had happened. The realization hit days later and I am so glad nothing happened to me or my mom since she took the same route as the shooter and me and my class ran out the building the same time the shooter did. I don't want to sound dramatic and I don't want pity but it was terrible and I wish this upon nobody. It fucks up your life. I am constantly scared when in a school, I always sit close to the window and never with my back to the door due to the fact the students got shot from behind. The guy wanted to shoot up the whole school, he even had a backpack full of ammo in the restroom next to our classroom. Seeing girls getting wet over people like that makes me so mad.
As someone who wants to go to school to become a Criminal Psychologist; these people disgust me and really need to find help. Having an interest in true crime (like you said) is completely fine and honestly it’s an interesting topic to follow. But the people who give these criminals any positive feedback for what they did isn’t okay. They aren’t a celebrity! Edit: I accidentally typed “in” instead of “an”
Kiui They don’t have to change anything. They’re looking in to what makes the killers want to do this; what warrants them to make these incredibly chilling actions. They are fully allowed to be disgusted with the things that are done. But it’s also going to be their field of work so I see where you’re coming from.
Sounds like a bunch of egdelords to me. Or those types of girls who think they can change these type of people with their love and care like in those movies or whatever.
I’ve always found that people who feel broken gravitate toward people they see as needing “fixing,” myself at a younger age included. Young girls or women who feel the world doesn’t get them and that they’ll never fit in (which is sadly a lot) want to find that one person who sees them for who they really are. This sometimes manifests as looking for people who they see as being “broken” too, and they want to fix them and live happily ever after. It also manifests and finding someone who also doesn’t fit in and being each other’s whole world. That’s what I see what I hear about the TCC. It’s sad to me because I know where they’re coming from, doesn’t excuse the behavior but I still get it a little bit. Fixing the broken and taming the wild don’t mend what’s going on inside, it just causes more pain. Hopefully the girls that get wrapped up in all this realize that one day.
Bro I don't like these Hybristophilias anymore than you do but the interview-y isnt have a crush oh these murders,, but she sympathies with how they were mistreated. She understands what they did was absolutely terrible. She shamed them for that. But cant you understand how shitty it is to be degraded like that? It's okay to like the story of murder's and feel bad for what they went through. On the other hand its absolutely not okay for them to brush off their crimes and say they didnt do anything wrong.
People. Mental health. Is. Not. An. Excuse. Bullying is also not an excuse. There is no excuse for murder or rape. Those kids who took the life of other kids, they're murderers. Cold. Hearted. Murderers. I mean, look at me. My mental health is really frigging bad and I was bullied and still being bullied. And what exactly am I doing? Taking a gun and shooting innocent kids at my school? no. Because their lives are not in my hands, and their fate is not mine to decide. Nothing is an excuse for murder. NOTHING. You can learn from the mistakes of murderers on how NOT to become like them, NOT ADMIRE THEM. And you know why? Because they are cold hearted murderers. They would probably murder you if you were at their school at the time of the shooting. They don't care who you are, they want to kill, and find themselves excuses to do so, but those excuses are nothing more than lies. It's like killing your cat or dog because "the Earth is over populated." And I will repeat. Mental health or social status is not an excuse for a crime. Thank you for sticking through to the end.
@@bunnyfreakz you leave school at 18 and can choose to go to university/college most of the people there are young middle schoolers it's like being a minor dating an older person. Sad for you to say this honestly.
Lara • 2019 years and Yeah ofc those are, definitely crimes, but you can’t blame young people for being attracted to older people (you know, hormones, and just being young and stupid in general). If the older person acts on it and uses the young person’s attraction to their advantage, now that’s the problem. I mean, if anyone uses someone’s attraction to their advantage to manipulate them, it’s a problem, regardless of age. But you can’t blame the person for being attracted, they are the victims. And besides, do they students know better, if they do get into a relationship with the teacher? You just can’t blame the students here, blame the teacher, they’re supposed to teach and protect, not take advantage.
I don't see that many "groupies" or fetishists now (~5 years ago when I ran an informational true crime Tumblr I did lol), but I do see a HELL of a lot of girls on TH-cam nowadays who do true crime and are extremely disrespectful to the victims and their families, and treat it like it's a GRWM video or some shit lmao. Bubbly, cute music, makeup all on, cute outfit, bright, floral background, barely any research, and talk about people losing family members while giggling and smiling. To me, that kind of insensitivity can be just as cringe.
Rachy Stogner true but tbh I only ever watch Kendall Rae and another TH-camr and they’re completely respectful tbh, the other TH-camr even took a video down because a parent didn’t like it, so I don’t think it’s right to group them all together. Also an afterthought why can’t a girl wear makeup or look presentable in a video if it’s a murder case, unsolved mystery, a Jane doe case. Sorry for being presumptive, it just seems that you put looking presentable in a negative light.
I know what you mean, they treat these cases in such a detached way like it's a scary ghost story rather than something tragic that really happened to an actual person. There are only a few channels I will watch for true crime stories. Cayleigh Elise is one of my favorites, her channel respectfully covers unsolved murder & missing person cases. You can tell she truly cares and is fully aware these are real people she's reporting on, her videos are always properly researched and well put together.
I've always been interested in death and gore. As a very young child I would watch all the best crime shows from NCIS to Rizzoli & Isles. I would also watch the Investigation Discovery channel and the news, just to hear about all the latest and oldest crimes! I was also fascinated by surgical mishaps and disasters. This is what is currently leading me on my pursuit to become a Medical Examiner/Coronor. I've always wanted to examine corpses of those who've died in unknown ways that way I can find out what killed them, help solve crimes, and give the victim's family closure. I keep quiet about my career goals because whenever I tell people, they cringe and say "Oh...that's weird." However, I do not support the "crazy" side of the True Crime Community, they honestly disgust me how they sexualize serial killers and rapists. I'm part of the TCC but only for the mysteries and actual psychological side of criminals. I only want to know why and how they did it. I do not want to have sex or form a relationship with ANY killer or any criminal. I think anyone who DOES want to do that needs some help, maybe therapy or a break from the Internet and the ION tv channel.
Oh god this is exactly like me, I want to become a coroner and help find out how people died. I haven’t told anyone because who the fucks wants to be a coroner???
SR Brant I have been watching Vikings for years now. Last year I fell in love with Ivar the Boneless, the cruelest Viking in the world. I’m STILL writing letters to him even though I know he can’t reply. My crush on and attachment to him is lasted a year and is still very strong. I identify with him because even though we’re disabled in different ways, we still suffer from society’s attitudes towards disabled people and how we’re mad at the world for it. I’m pretty sure I’d be the only one able to calm him down when he gets upset or in a rage, and I know he’d always protect me. Now here I am feeling amazed and dumbfounded at how extreme and far THESE people have fallen. So sad.
Lmao they’re killers they don’t care about anyone but themselves.They’d slaughter these “fans” if they had a chance without remorse it’s actually kinda sad if you think about it.
Not really.... There was this documentary about a guy, i forgot his name, he was a serial killer and married. His wife was shooked, and told the police that she had no idea like, her husband was the perfect kind, sweet and all. They all have standards i think, if i am not mistaken, Dahmer standard of killing was young male.
@@jackpreacher3514 well yes they all have their MO but the point is that they wouldn’t hesitate to take the life of someone else. If the fans of the Columbine shooters were at their school that day they wouldn’t hesitate to shoot everyone in their way.
i remember being in a kik group with one of those "columbiners" she was so damn annoying and would keep going on and on about eric and Dylan she even wore shirts that quoted them and would always send pictures- removing her wasn't an option since the mod was friendly with her so i bailed
I think this is some sort of kink. Maybe one of those weird psycho kinks that some girls had back on those edgy anime image boards where they'd talk about murderous fantasies with murderer anime characters. Maybe it's like that but with real people?
I think its them being unable to process the crimes. They mentally are unable to process it to the point that they try to find the logic of why, and are unable to find it so they turn to romanticizing them. It's easier to look at them as a troubled man with a horrible past then a cold blooded murderer. From there that romantization turns to I could have stopped them I could have changed and fixed them. I could have helped them realize what they did wrong. When it's not truely been found how to help or "cure" these disorders.
Ooh me, me! I'm one of those girls!! It is similar, but most of us (who are old enough to know better...) have a hard line in the sand we draw. For me personally it's like a switch flips with fictional vs real events, to the point that I'm straight up confused when other chicks are into that Ted Bundy shit. The idea that someone would want to bang legit, real-world, unregulated crazy does not compute.
A person that I followed on Instagram used to romanticize the columbine shooters in such a creepy way to the point of making edits of them. Thankfully she realized it was super fucked up of her to be in the community and now she’s doing better than ever
I wrote a loooong ass paper on columbine in high school (I want to go into criminal psych) and after researching and finding out about the whole "fandom" aspect I wanted to write the whole paper about that since it was so shocking to me. Shit's crazy
Well the columbiners will be happy to know that they can go to any highschool, find a socially awkward guy who gets picked on, and save them like they would have Eric and Dylan. Except that in reality, like the girls in the school, they would find themselves unattracted to them.
I wonder if you people said the same thing if he did it with any other animal, one that usually isn't a pet, like a farm animal, or do only pet lives matter?
@@PinkiePie45838283734666o9 animals however the species must be defended and loved. However condemning them to starvation and over population by discouraging hunting and consumption is a greater evil than eating them. I stated the case facts. Had he abused any other animal, domestic or farm animal, it would have been the same result. Don’t come at me because you are out to prove to the world your stupidity. Thank you very much.
I love True Crime (I thank my late Grandma for getting me into shows like America's Most Wanted and 48 hours for my love of it), but I am not going get wet over pictures of Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, Jeffery Dahmer, Ted Bundy, or Richard Ramirez. They are monsters who don't deserves this type of admiration. It disgusts me that people use the #TCC as a cover for their disgusting fetish, they are monsters not icons.
It's kinda a fruitless turn on, putting aside they both dead. It's been proven that they were sexually involved with each other. The bullying of their homosexuality or presumed bullying in response to them being "outted" may have factored into what they did.
Jerrod Schembs Are you referring to the Columbine killers? If so it's never been proven that they were sexually involved with one another. Out of all the myths,rumors and speculation surrounding them that's something that has zero evidence to support it. I've been researching Columbine pretty much since the week it happened and the only times I've come across that is in some awful fan fictions written by people on Tumblr.
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P.S. I grew up in Milwaukee.
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There are tons of videos
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You need to narrate audio books or something. xD
imagine asking your grandma “what does that tattoo mean nana?” and she says “it’s just the name of serial killers i’m obsessed with”
but these women will never have children. they will only settle for school shooters and serial killers, a normal guy with a nine to five job isn't good enough for these wackos lol.
I don’t condone dropping your unwanted elderly relatives at a home but if I heard a family member or even friend say that: I would put them away, that shit’s not okay, and if someone showed me their tattoo of a serial killer’s name/symbol/etc and fantasize to me about how they love them and want them in bed. That’s one phone call away to the nearest facility, I have an interest with true crime, but I don’t wanna have rough sex with Charles Manson. There’s a big difference with having an interest and being all out crazy on the true crime side of things.
@@kevinbaconwasntinfootloose1742 Maybe he's too good for those wackos.
It's not too weird or weird at all. My sister in law has a tattoo of Charles Manson and no one has ever asked her why. I just think most of the people on TH-cam or very sheltered and can't understand people who didn't trap themselves in the house growing up and have street knowledge
Imagine getting a tattoo of a killer
Imagine having a family member die, just to have the killer praised online.
Absolutely disgusting 😞
It's disgusting I feel bad for the family and friends of the victims.
Dr. Jasontheman That is disgusting as hell. I would literally kill said killer, and wait until the day that those fangirls/fanboys die.
I'd go apeshit crazy there's no other choice
@Ah mommy you’re too tight For me! that's the only option
Imagine being murdered and instead of people being remorseful towards you and angry about it they just want to talk about how hot and tortured the murderers are.
If I would be the murderer, I would just tell them that they’re creepy, and I don’t love them at all. I wonder how they would react when their “idol” says they’re disgusting.
@@wyv_3rn literally though, like the killer they worship could care less about them.
@Lauren P. I’d be in heaven like “hey god maybe we should start the apocalypse again maybe we can have a successful apocalypse
@GGR Makes bro just use the heavenly dream powers to slowly kill them in the dream because I’m pretty sure you can do that have you heard the stories of people’s kids who met their dead relatives in dreams like that’s what I want to do just say “yo heaven’s real dawg praise the lord and time goes by super fast, by the way here’s a comic book I wrote you can do that here it’s called battle for mythique, based off of previous projects I had on earth, by the way is Timmy doing good tell him I said hi ok”
@@wyv_3rn they would kill themselves.
my aunt had one of her best friends killed by Ted Bundy. i will never understand people who could stan that, not after seeing the pain she still goes through.
I know, it's really questionable.
They say they can empathize with these people more, portray themselves as more empathetic than the normal person, but at the same time they can't empathize with the actual victims of their actions.
@@johndotcue they're as psychopathic as the murderers they're in love with
@@johndotcue exactly. idk f you know but theres this school shooter, Devon Erickson and long story short he was wronged in court and he's getting hate when he was coerced into helping in a school shooting, drugged, then threatened. I don't like what they both did they're obviously shiit people but devon was musically talented and had a life ahead of him that he could've done a lot with but Alec and him met and thats when it went downhill. But I also don't like Devon because he would make school shooting threats ( he would stand close to you and tell u not to come to school then laugh, etc. ), bully other kids to the point where the guy he bullied was going to the school EVERY WEEK to report bullying, not mention I heard that he choked a student in 8th grade and touched underage girls asses at concerts. I also feel really bad for Kendrick Castillo he died when he got shot. he jumped and saved other people along with 2 students when nobody else would, man had to do what he had to do. See how I'm able to empathize and see his point of view but at the same time hold him accountable and NOT romanticize or like him...? i wish those columbiners could do that smh
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My mom and I were watching The Ted Bundy Tapes the other night and we got into the subject of women sending him letters. My mom laughed and said "On the day of his execution my friends and I turned off our power so the jail could have more electricity for the chair." She lived in Florida during college and apparently lived near where he was being held.
This actually so interesting and should be top comment just saying. Your mom is awesome too!
@@bluedabadee8997 lol thank you 💖 I love my mom and I thought it was cool to share.
This comment is so underrated, I snorted 😂
Lol, your mom is amazing.
☆Faith☆ dang your mom sounds awesome
I went on a date with a girl who was into this stuff. I had no idea at first, but she brought it up and I was like “oh yeah, that stuff is interesting” then she told me she was actually obsessed with the Columbine guys and wanted to have two sons one day and name them after the the shooters. She knew everything about them and it was creepy. Needless to say, that was our only date.
Close call man, damn
My dude, I hope she doesn't know where you live. She's going to snap one day. I remember my senior year (2010) Tumblr was relatively new and I saw so many girls like this. It makes me wish I could look up how many of them went on to actually become violent criminals themselves. It's been almost ten years since then so I'm sure that's plenty of time to lose your mind.
You dodged a bullet there
Rename yourself to Neo, because by GOD you dodged one helluva bullet-
@@user-co9sm6qq4b i think you read wrong
This is actually disgusting. They weren’t fictional characters, they were real people who killed real people
Whatever problems they had it’s not an excuse
ForAReason agreed 100% the problems they had were simply reasons, explanations even- but NOT an excuse because nothing can excuse those crimes.
evil people have MOTIVES
a motive is not a justification
people need to learn the difference
exactly. people like this sicken me.
As a Smart Man once said: "Once you cross that line I stop caring about how you got there."
@I gRape Babies there isn't any justification for murdering innocent people
I had a girl in my forensics class that talked about the Columbine shooters like they where the popular boys, she straight up said to the teacher that they where cute and miss understood.
“I’m not like other girls, I think murder is hot”
Ah yes shooting up a whole school is so misunderstood ❤
@Oliver Von arx see how long they'd be "into it" if they became the victims of the attacks. "Oh I loooove Ted Bundy" until you get in his car and that's the last time you're seen alive. Fucking crazies.
@@blame7121 or Richard Ramirez
Dude, I think you need to change schools. ;~;
As a student, nothing scares me more than the people who obsess over school shooters
I want to die same, ik im not gonna havr a child for a few years but i have made up the decision that im never putting my child in any sort of school im going to home school my child cus tbh i dont feel safe putting a child in a school anymore
As a teacher, same.
JLynnEchelon here a tip be more scared of the pistol than a rifle since they are smaller also you are more likely to die from a stab wound than a gun shot. Last but not least you are not likely to be involved in a school shooting as the odds are similar to being hit by lighting
What about the school shooters?
@@arcticmonke7661 I don't worry because I'm in a country where only military and police have guns.
I'm so sure that the Tumblr users claiming to desire the affections of the Columbine shooters would be scared shitless if they were put in a room with them.
Damn that's what I was thinking all this time. Pretty sure the killer would even hate them or find them as very annoying. Theres a spanish saying that in english means "Raise ravens and they will pluck out your eyes" and it applies to this perfectly
who the fuck even thinks they're attractive? one of them literally looked like a horse
@quack quack quack
"No críes cuervos, o arrancaran tus ojos de sus cuencas"
Right...I don't understand the mentality of "oh if they had known me, maybe we could've prevented the shooting, because we would've had each other" like these dudes were probably disliked for a reason...I'm not saying they deserved to be bullied but if you're not liked and don't have a relationship then maybe you're doing something wrong? Idk..
@@TemptRose Yeah this type of people dont care about anyone, they dont care about your life even if you were nice with them since day 1. Its so pathetic seeing people trying to justify their actions and defending such assholes that would take innocent lives just for fun
Why can't y'all be attracted to legos like normal people
I can only get so errect 😩😩😩
Thats what I thought...Like, watch Ninjago
It's Lego. No s...
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"Of course, if you spend any time on the internet-"
It's okay, you can say Tumblr
Twitter's got a problem with it too, from what I've seen. Or maybe the worst of Tumblr is just migrating as that stuff is tolerated less.
And twitter 👀
ew
They all flocked to twitter now unfortunately.
@@powpowouchy5good, they can stay there
I got bullied and beat up every day, but I didnt shoot anyone. Can I have a fanbase please?
We shall be known as niconians
Amen brother!
Yes, because you are not a sicko.
Boi you deserve it
I'm joining ya fan base right now
Miffed Akko not cute enough NEXT
When you said “Zodiac Killer, Ted Bundy” I thought you were going to say “the Zodiac Killer, Ted Cruz” and I almost pissed myself
Maddie Fossett lmao 😂
Wait a minute, who is Ted Cruz again?
@@Kuriboh1008 I think he's a Senate?
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suicune boy 15 the zodiac killer
$12,000
Could’ve gone to charity, someone in need
But instead it went to a cold blooded killer i-
"All right! I've just been paid! I could buy food or pay my taxes, but this cannibal necrofile is just too hot!"
We all spend money on dumb things. If those women wanted to waste their money on a killer, then whatever.
imagine your fucking co-worker tells you about donating 12k dollars to a murderer I-
The human race suuuuuckkksssss
@@zombiegirlfriend it wasn't 1 individual who donated all 12K
Most of the people probably donated less than 500 each
They really wanna be Harley Quinn so bad
I was thinking the same thing! Sounds like these women suffer from "Harley Quinn " syndrome.
Even harley got over that phase and yet these crazy bitches still can't
Except Harley learnt that joker was toxic
Poison ivy for president
@@theatermx she'd kill us all
Imagine being the guy who has to tattoo Dylan and Eric on some chicks body
Alicia S. I think 90% of principled tattoo artists would refuse to do it
I was wondering how she got it bc why would any sane person enable that behavior
@@MercurialSaturnian prolly cause one of them happens to be a tattoo artist or something of the sort
I'd refuse it. School shooter tattoos fall under "symbols of hate" for me.
I would have straight up refused and told her to get her psycho-ass out of here.
Nice to see someone finally took notice of these true crime romanticists, interest is one thing but to romanticize them is something else.
Ne-tan nobody cares
Ne-tan not even lmfao. This is the kind of shit they want
Grizmark you do clearly
The Doctor you do clearly
The Doctor no u
Pretty sure Eric or Dylan would just use them as target practice if they saw them.
@GGR Makes Pretty sure the bullet would go through their heads way faster
@@Km-qo6ex the original comment made me laugh but your addition made me wheeze
Km I was gonna say the same lol
Quite literally
@@te6607 So all 13 people they murdered and 21 they tried to murder bullied them? Every single one of those 33 students and teachers directly bullied these "heroes"? It's one thing to take the life of only your abuser, but to gun down innocent people in the name of some twisted idea of revenge is inexcusable and indefensible.
Calling yourself a "Columbiner" is about as classy as calling yourself an "Auschwitzer" or a "Gulager".
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@@Jzara4 well you know he did have a troubled childhood and he was a really good painter......
(Obviously joking)
@@keysereneivok5312 lol
Stalin is Gulag Daddy
While the nicknames seem od, I have seem a fair number of Nazi fangirls on sites like Deviantart, most of the focus being placed on Goebells and Mengele. It's truly an odd world out there.
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gotta represent
"The Columbine community"
I want off this planet
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@Damaris Ramirez Mind if I join?
That community is just sick in the head. It also means teacher crush community, and I don't know why. I just think it's disturbing.
@@Spookythereaper3 just like youre account kid :\\\\\\\\
Same here mate.
I mean, I have a big interest in serial killers for how their brains worked and stuff like that. But to start romanticizing them is just plain scary, unhealthy and extremely dangerous.
Exactly i think ted bundy is super interesting but i’m not in love with him
Same here, I wish there were communities I could speak/discuss about the psychology behind the killers but I can't find any that don't touch on the romantic/fetish side of things
I wonder if it’s some really deep lizard brain reflex for some people- if someone is dangerous, and much stronger than you, you can either bite the bullet and fight them, avoid them, or figure out how to ally yourself with them.
Dude, same. I’m like a very empathetic person and I always try to find a way to understand them and what’s going on in their heads even though i can’t relate to them but serial killers are interesting. But it’s so uncomfortable when you think about people who romanticize serial killers and say school shooters are their idols. I as a student am very terrified of people like them.
Bruh, I'm pretty sure those same girls wouldn't acknowledged Dylan or Eric's presence if they went to the same high school.
Exactly. They only like killing.
Nailed it.
yeah like, if eric and dylan were "sooo different" and "sooo misunderstood" why dont you go talk to the quiet kid who sits by himself at lunch? it just seems like theres only sympathy for the ones who commit atrocities rather than the ones who are actually suffering from bullying.
LMAO EXACTLY!!
When these peoples’ classmates agree to ignore someone/some people, do they participate or do they actually talk to those people-risking themselves getting added to the ignore list?
Chances are they participate to ignoring, even if reluctantly.
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I freakin love that clip. I use it on the daily 😂😂
Lol
It's like "Oh he killed several innocent children who've never seen the world but he's cute." He's not cute, he's a terrible person who killed children. Or "he shot up a theatre filled with innocent people but he's cute". What goes in there sick head to make them love over a shooter/murderer
I agree, they are incredibly sick they are mass murderers for fucks sake
Being cute is about look. Being a terrible person has nothing to do with how someone looks like. Get your facts straight.
PotatoHead Gaming they feel like their crimes give them a bad boy vibe. Gross
I don’t get it either!
Axel Drans as I agree there is something not right with them, but to say they’re worthless to society is not right
fun fact: the reason marilyn manson named himself that was because of the medias habit of making murderers as famouse as actors and singers. of course you had marilyn monroe who was a famous actress (good kind of fame) then you had charles manson serial killer (bad fame). so the point of his name was the whole ying yang type thing its made up of 2 famous people but for drastically different reasons. this also goes along with his persona of being a hero to some and villain to others.
Thats a fact.
Thanks for letting me know. I think that Marilyn Manson came up with his stage name is because he had been influenced by M. Monroe (the good side of being famous) for a pretty long time, and the deceased C. Manson (bad side of fame), and saying that everyone can be positive & negative at the very same time.
I saw an interview where he talked about this. I love him, and how he loves to shock the public 😂
i actually knew that lol
Didn't Marilyn Manson abuse his wife tho
“that smile”
he’s literally just staring angrily the delusion in these people is frightening
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When people sympathise with murderers because they were bullied or abused as a child. Yet this does not excuse murder.
I remember after the Florida shooting, the kids were standing up for themselves and when the police stated that the shooter was bullied the kids went to Twitter and stated 'so was I, but he shot at me'. Nothing excuses murder, rape, or any type of crime. Not mental health. Not bullying. Not abuse.
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While it does not excuse it, nobody's brain work the same. I do not support or excuse what they did, but it's important to understand that their motives were because of this type of thing. It is important to see these flags to try to prevent this from happening again.
It's not an excuse, but everyone draws the line somewhere. One guy might fight over being pushed, and another guy might let himself get beaten so he doesn't have to fight.
You combine a kid with a short "line" and mental illness, then you got a problem.
Wrong mental health could have a big affect. Nobodys brain works the same.
That chick with the columbine tattoo is gonna have some regrets
Sphinx Money she was raped and murdered
@@dootdoot94xo44 The fuck you mean, nope? Weird ass
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Sphinx Money fuck outta here groupie😂💀
@@KrazzyKittyy Probably that if she was stupid enough to get that tattoo, she is probably stupid enough to not regret it.
the "he was a normal teenager just like everyone else!" and "he was bullied!" defenses are so gross. yeah, he had a life like any other and yet he chose to murder tons of innocent people. theres nothing to sympathize with. wheres the sympathy for bullied kids that didnt slaughter dozens, or is your sympathy only for murderers? disgusting.
agreed. being bullied doesnt mean you're entitled to taking someone else's life.
Hell as someone whos dealt with mental illness, abuse, and general bullying i havent even THOUGHT about committing something like a school shooting, and even if i did itd be an intrusive thought that id refuse to act upon bc i know thats not what i want. These people are just evil and disgusting
Right?! I was bullied, and I've never killed anybody
often they're not even bullying victims.
they only like them 'cos they attractive (at least to them)
I think the fact that media coverage of shootings portray the perpetrator as a sort of anti-hero may have some responsibility too
TheDoctorThrax I just said this to my husband about the El Paso shooting.
The fame and attention given by news sorts of plays towards the shooters plans, that's why they do it.
Phil DeFranco makes a valid point when he says the best thing for the media to do regarding these killers is to not air their names or faces, and to instead focus on the case itself and the victims. If they aren't made famous, it's more difficult to form a fandom around them.
Or just make their media names different. Nobody will want to simp over 'The diarrhoea plagued Masker' or 'The micro-penis machete killer'. I swear the names they give killer's are half of the appeal.
@@quinntrbl omg lol XD
@@quinntrbl holy shit dude..😂😂
They can just look the names up on the internet. This isn't 1995.
@@quinntrbl truuuue
I'm fascinated by serial killers and the like, but the true crime fandom is just embarrassing... Like calm the fuck down, Jeffrey Dahmer isn't your dad and Dylan & Eric are definitely not your husbandos, they're disgusting people who commited atrocities and took the lives of innocent people.
I’m really disgusted by those types of people. I couldn’t believe that people fan girl over shit like this.
It's just super disgusting. I read through comments on crime documentaries and I am just so shocked at what I am reading. What type of sick person fan girls over people who killed other people.
Anime Lover
Believe it or not, there is a rare orientation where people are sexually attracted to a person who has committed a crime, whether it be petty theft or mass murder.
Oh my god! Why!?!?
Anime Lover
I don't know. The people themselves are, as I said, very rare; sadly, many...groupies in this fandom also claim to have this orientation or would like to claim that they do.
I never understood girls thirsting over Damer. Like 1) it's super wrong and 2) he was gay
Nothing wrong with being gay. He just wouldnt be interested so theres no need to "try" for him
@@jadestone5160
There's a lot of wrong with being gay.
@@NOU-iw3gb I dont quite agree but I'm sure you have your reasons
@@NOU-iw3gb I took a shower so idk what you mean
@@jadestone5160
By you I meant gays
Yeah she's going to regret that tattoo when she gets older.
Nah, she's going to be in jail when she's older.
Let's hope so
Nah let’s hope she never makes it to jail if y’know what I mean
i want one of those fuckers to date a serial killer, think they're going to "ChANGe HiM" like hes fuckin kevin levin or sasuke, only to get tortured painfully and die; realising their stupidity in their final moments.
It can be covered
I looked up the hybristophilia tag on tumblr and now I feel sick. I am interested in true crime and serial killers, yes. But do I romanticize or idolize them? No. These people are messed up, truly messed up.
Also, I understand bullying. I have been bullied. I understand that in most cases, murderers/serial killers/criminals have a terrible past. However, I do NOT believe that is an excuse at all. I can sympathize Dylan and Eric for what they went through, but the sheer terror that they caused nearly blocks that out entirely. I am not a ‘Columbiner,’ despite my interest in the psychology behind criminals.
They were never bullied though
Tumblr is a DARK place man
Tumblr: your one stop destination for murderer supporters and pedophile apologists.
serendipity ♡
P EDO APOLOGISTS??????
im outta tumblr.
I actually watched My Friend Dahmer for the first time last night. The way that Ross Lynch portrayed Jeffrey actually made me really uncomfortable, as well as second hand embarrassment at those scenes where he made the weird noises. But to hear someone who know and/or was close to Jeffrey say that Lynch actually did a really haunting job at playing the titular serial killer himself, was what really made me impressed. To be able to act to the point where someone who knew the character you play as say that you were just like them, is insane. Ross is an amazing actor, and I hope he gets more roles like this in the future. You *know* he'll put his all into it.
Shitty movie though..
Yeah same, him 'doing a Dahmer' or how it's called made me uncomfortable but Ross is a really good actor and I think no one else could play this roll as good
Alyson Lima gotta disagree with you on that one. I thought it was really good personally.
He didn't get enough credit for that role imo but I have go agree the movie fell kind of flat. Replay value is about 5%... lol. He really did play the shit out of that part though!!!
Alyson Lima I don’t think it was a bad movie. I think it gave you a lot of insight on who Jeffrey was and to me that was pretty interesting. I get it, he didn’t kill anybody and there was no plot twist but that’s just because John Backderf wanted it to be the real story and not some kind of dramatic horror thriller.
“We don’t condone their actions!” Congratulations on doing the bare minimum omg !!
People obsessed with any kind of killer in a romantic or sexual way really confuses me and grosses me out, like I love true crime and find it very interesting to read but I can’t even read and learn about true crime without some weird fanfic coming up or some girl posting a picture edited with hearts, I don’t see the appeal it’s very weird and quite concerning.
That's why I prefer podcasts.
Alyssa MM
agree 100%
I am so confused by both the girls who love Eliot Rogers and the reddit incels who idolise him
They're the same creepy people that idolize convicts and want to marry serial killers that are behind bars. Deeeeeep seated psychological issues abound in those folks.
K Mocks definitely
yup
one side are weird girls who idolize serial killers, and the other side is jutst taking the piss out of him
Katsu no, the incels are completely serious
It scares me that people can be so.. enamored with serial killers, etc. It truly makes me question their mentality. Hell, it makes me question humanity in general.
You should watch MindHunters
rae L. That escalated quickly.
Someone can have emotions while still empathizing with killers. It doesn't even mean that they condone them killing people, it could just mean that they relate to the killers and understand their motives.
I can totally understand being interested in them from a psychological and mental perspective, learning what creates these types of people can teach us a lot about humanity in general and how to prevent cases like them from happening in the future. But when interest turns into worship, it becomes an even bigger problem.
It aint that bad lol
Ok, when I was a teenager I've met a girl who was really obsessed over Columbine shooters. She was bullied a lot on school and at home (yeah, her mind probably was not a good place to be at that time). She was totally into this till the day our country woke up with the news of our own first school mass shooting. She was terrified... She used to be someone who don't care about those kind of victims and suddenly they're "nearby" and she got very sad and upset. She was really frightened. So she made a bold move (considering her emotional patterns) and went to some psychological evaluation. Today I think that when a mass murder happened "near" her, probably she got the real instance of the horror that was perpetrated in Columbine. Well, one year later I remember she was starting to show some confidence to other people and was more focused on studying. I've lost contact with her since we graduated, but I just checked her Facebook page and apparently she's doing well now, she seems smiley and do have some friends. I think she was able to "erase" these things from her head. Good for her.
Maybe in her case she wasn't bad person, but instead a very confused and alone girl who wanted to get some revenge because her life wasn't the way she thought it should be?
I honestly don't know but she seems great now and I feel relieved for her.
Let her know.
so why do good girls like school shooters i had this question for a really long time
Instead of shooters how about killers
No Face but 'shooters' still a bad thing. When someone says shooters you already know that they're killers, it's just a synonymous.
FRITZLITZ I don't think they are good girls in any way. Someone who likes murderers are always bad and with almost nothing of empathy, y'know.
@@ghoot r/woooosh
@Lassi Kinnunen r/wooooosh
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Me:I fear no man but that
*points at people who romanticize school shooters*
Me:that thing scares me.
No No I'm not talking about that freak!
"One shudders to imagine what inhuman thoughts lie behind that Tumblr account"
@@lucario4lif682 "DO YOU BELIEVE IN EMBER'S GHOST SQUAD?"
Your pfp is amazing.
Don't say things like that
These sickos LOVE the fact your fear them, it makes them feel good about themselves
But i got the reference lmao
Obsessed women sending dahmer love letters not knowing he was gay lmao
Its hilarious 🤣🤣
I mean, if they’re crazy enough to Stan a killer they probably think they can change his sexuality. Lol
Some women like gay men, its a fetish. In the case of Dahmer there is a fetish within fetish. But it is all normal. Most people are just not open minded enough to understand female sexuality.
@@mirianakovachevic748 ...Nothing to do with female sexuality. Even we women call them stupid and mentally unstable (which is the worst combination). Don't turn this into a feminist thing because even the most hardcore feminist wouldn't defend that type of behaviour, it goes against everything women fought for and still fighting for. To lust/love men who objectified, abused, raped and murdered women is the worst offence you can do as a member of the same sex.
@@LordThulhu Dahmer did not rape or murder women.
The fact that someone got a tattoo of that makes me feel ill , that’s not ok
Yeah I actually cringed so hard. That sh*t is disgusting
why didn’t the artist say no...? it’s obviously extremely offensive..
petrichør
“ *sigh* I can’t believe I’m doing this shit but I’m late on rent so I have to ditch my dignity”
I think it's a badass tattoo
ill?
As someone from Broward County, someone who's had friends cry for days over friends who they won't get to see again, seeing anyone fawn over Cruz makes my blood boil
ballooj Too late for that. :/ I went through posts about the shooting maybe a few days after it happened, hoping to find more people who were dealing with a similar situation to mine. Lo and behold there were already posts talking about how "hot" Cruz is and how they want him to be their valentine.
ballooj Yeah, it really messed me up
As a person who is interested in true crime, I would like to say, we are not all like this. I enjoy learning and researching the psychology of the killers, the forensics on how they caught them and the biography of the victims and killers.
However, I do not like school shootings, and most people who research true crime, aren’t interested in school shooters. Mainly because it is boring. No forensics. No hunt for the killer. Nothing that makes them stand out. The backstory is always similar.
I try to keep it respectful when researching cases. It’s something my dad, my mum’s best friend and I have a DEEP fascination for. We have debates about unsolved cases, go to talks and conferences from criminologists and psychologists on killers and why they kill, we watch documentary’s together, and I have even set my goal in life to become a homicide detective, in order to put my interests and skills I have learnt to good use. Sometimes my grandma (who also watched documentaries on things like that) joins in. She can’t always because of her bad legs and back. She can’t stand for long. Bless her.
In fact, my MAW is going to be to ‘solve a murder with the police’.
These people are nothing more then horny 15 year olds who lust after boring people who killed a lot of innocent victims.
I would like to say rest in peace to all of those who have passed from someone evil, whether they be serial killer, murderer, mass murderer or any other act of violence.
Well said
I wish I could do all that too. What you said is very encouraging of using what you've learned. Well done.
Couldn't have said it better. Hope you get your dream job
I like watching buzzfeed unsolved so call me “Sherlock Holmes”
You put this so well into words! I’ve been interested in true crime since I was a kid, but mass shooters never caught my interest for the exact reasons you listed. Good luck with your future career.
I need a water appreciation fandom as nobody seems to appreciate water quite the same way as me 😔😔
i appreciate water and your profile picture 😼
Some people just like being thirsty when they have bottle of water right in front of them.
✨💧✨Water superiority✨💧✨
Yes, we need to stan water. After all, the power of water is its ability to take any shape.
Also, I like your profile picture. Kaeya supremacy.
Yeah and clean air
r/hydrohomies 😁
The "perfect boyfriend" theory is the creepiest to me because there's a cold rationality to it
You're right. This one really made me feel uneasy
On the contrary - at least you know where he is.And no one is gonna rip when you come back from the club at 5am intriguing.
Lol women
@@ergaberga8356 love your name
I know, I hate it but it was so insightful and new to me. The *_"tOrTuReD sOuL"_* shit, despite being of good intentions, intersects with sexuality, devolves into obsession, and results in betting the metaphorical house of her life on lottery-winning odds; hoping that her devotion will pay off and magically *fix him* emotionally; all that bullshit I can kinda believe them saying, no matter the actual success rate, and have heard of, I just forgot about it until it was brought up here, but the _"perfect boyfriend"_ shit?! Damn, that's one of many possible examples that may be combined with the other explanations and motives, and it has a sort of Lawful Evil genius to it, like, holy fuck, I *hadn't* heard or thought of that until seeing this; eerily illuminating to find out that being one of the pieces of the puzzle. 😨
Being interested in Crime as a whole, from a Psychological and Sociological standpoint, crime affects us from the community downwards, I love studying crime as gives me a story behind all the data, I abhor these crimes like normal people would, but I hate being lumped in
There was a girl at my school who had three of these columbine accounts. She loved Dylan, it was gross. Let’s just say... She got kicked out of our school
Edgy And weird it’s a no from me
Hope she didn't shoot up the school
Reb and Vodka TM Call me Ella lol
What the fuck.
@Reb and Vodka TM Call me Ella lol your 10? Look kid you got time to figure out your life so please do it before you become even more of a messed up person
Reb and Vodka TM Call me Ella lol dude in the Florida shooting there were kids who were bullied and abused they told him he knew and yet they said I quote “he still shot at us”
These Tumblr girls are the same type of people to think that having depression or being suicidal is an ✨aesthetic✨
Yeah i dont like making fun of people who think like that cuz theyre usually kids who dont properly know how to express themselves but ffs they need a serious reality check omg (and ur probably right lmao)
yeah, blech. Also cool Sunny pfp!!!
one time a "columbiner" reblogged my art. needless to say, i blocked and reported her immediately
dr. shrunk's child 🙄🙄
@Gene damnnn aight I see u
@Jesus Christ It's not like they're rare to find, or that reblogging goes against murder fandom code.
Username Imagine being someone who’s attracted to murderers
@Username I'm into some weird shit but snuff fetishes, bestiality and pedophilia aren't weird. They're straight up a destructive problem. That shit ruins people's lives.
i feel sick and uncomfortable, knowing there are people like these
+Gerry Buckets, It's this very existence of these fandoms and individuals that inspire "copycat" killings, it's horrific.
I hear ya. I unfortunately was friends with a Columbiner for a bit. Ugh.....
I was as well actually only 2 days ago which is mainly why I watched this video. I didn't find out until I slept over at her house. I found her sketch book under her bed (I was sleeping on the floor and spotted it) and because her room is fairly clean most of the time, I thought it was weird so I pulled it out. I regret it because though she is a good artist, her sketches were sexually graphic. I simply got up before her at 6 am, informed her parents, and left. Haven't heard from her since but I think shes being sent somewhere for health. Mental health that is..
Jeez....... my condolences to you....... sounds horrifying....
I feel disgusted that there are people like you who are so close minded that they don't realize how it would be nearly impossible for people like this to not exist.
"mAmA iM inLOVe wiTh A cRimInaL"
Sang this in the tune to I'm in love with a stripper
there are two types of ppl in this world
And this type of love isn't rational, it's physical.
That’s a good sing.
*plays flute horribly to the tune of the song*
In my country there was this one school shooting many years ago. And about an year ago a late teen girl was arrested for planning another one. Turned out this girl was madly in love with this shool shooter and visited his grave constantly. She even took some of the gravel from the grave to her home and had altar for him. She believed she was in relationship with this shooter. It was shocking really. Luckily people found out about her plans and she was arrested before she could do anything.
Edit. This happened in Finland. U want source? Pretty much all are in Finnish bc outside world dont seem to rly care what happens here so they dont write about. This was all over Finnish news papers while ago.
Edit edit. One lovely person got u couple English sources down in the comments. Rest of the source are in finnish and there are not much info in English
✿MJF✿ holy crap
Sounds horrifying. May I ask where you're from?
✿MJF✿ oh my fucking god.
✿MJF✿
Oh god that’s fucking disgusting
larp detected
i'm in the "hitting mass shooters and serial killers in the stomach with spiked baseball bats" fandom.
pink rat I’m in the throw mass shooters and serial killers into a volcano while strapped to a nuke fandom
wow I’m in all of these fandoms
That's rookie style, invent the matrix and put them in a simulation tweaked just enough so they feel the need to repeat their actions but have it set up in such a way they'll mentally unallow themselves. Nothing beats torture like torture of the mind.
Welp, no more I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream followed by TH-cam at 2am for me.
I’m in the “lock them away and forget they exist” camp. Making a spectacle or getting moral satisfaction out of the punishment is exactly the fuel that feeds the fires in these killers’ bellies. It’s an almost religious devotion to raining fire and brimstone on your enemies, that keeps the cycle going. Imagine what would become of these perverts who idolize these kinds of people, if anyone who committed these types of violent acts simply got locked away and basically erased from society. They’re no longer a “bad boy”, no longer a “tortured soul”, anyone who does these things just gets erased from public consciousness into total blackness (metaphorically, materially I just mean simply locked away with no fanfare and no media exposure). Their names never mentioned, their faces forgotten, their fantasy of “SHOWING THE WORLD THE MONSTER IT CREATED MWAHAHA” totally subverted by deleting their presence. Gone, no identity, just collecting dust, being truly a nothing-person.
I’m in the “.38 special to the head for the whole lot of these lowlifes” fandom
Sadly. I knew someone, who was very very very close to me. He basically knew everything about me, and we considered ourselves family.
I actually lost contact with him, and i was lurking in a group chat i was part of, and someone mentioned him. Someone saw on this guys instagram (the friend that id lost contact with) that he made Vent art of the Columbian Shooters, and even cosplayed them.
He also told another one of my friends that he wanted to bomb snd shoot up his school. I immediately blocked him. And havent talked to him for a few months.
The scary thing is, i was talking to a future school shooter. And the fact he knows such personal information scares me.
Report him????????
Did you tell the police?
Wow that does sound scary. You never really know what's hiding inside of someone.
Updates???
@@patochantk I don't have any updates, and he was reported to the school. I still don't have any contact with him, but I'll see if he posted anything else.
He's done a lot more than I listed, which, I'll be happy to reveal.
Why can't y'all just be attracted to shrek like normal people?
BASED
Damn, Shrek will be my crush forever
Shrek is unironically hot though
But We are SHREK
i'm probably going to implode if people start romanticizing the parkland shooter tbh
chibiyaten15 If information comes out that he was bullied or an outcast they will. And he's alive so he'll get more coverage. More books, etc. Hold onto your butts.
chibiyaten15 dude’s instagram history says he was part of a white supremacist group. edgy bitches incoming.
That trainwreck is already going
oh there’s been a fanbase for him since like, the day it happened. there’s all these girls making picture edits of him with like some stupid blushing effects or whatever and then they’re like “what a cutie!! uwu” and they’re sympathetic towards him, so obviously history repeats itself, especially in the tcc
i hate people
I'm so sad that #tcc is mainly used for stupid fangirls, it should be used for the general interest in crime and how it happens and works
Exactly! It’s completely normal to be interested in crime, that’s why the Discovery ID channel is so popular. I’m interested from a psychological view because I can’t wrap my head around how someone can kill another person like they’re a fly. But these weird fuckers turned interest in crime into fetishizing murderers which is so wrong on so many levels.
Thank you.
It is perfectly fine to like villains
BUT NOT REAL LIFE CRIMINALS
:Paulinich not like but be interested in yeah
@@drake9572 no, fictional villains like voldemort which is absolutely ridiculous because HES IS ONE OF THE UGLIEST THINGS IVE SEEN
@@cloudii8976 I- Beauty is in the eye of the beholder (But I wholeheartedly agree)
Admiration of a fictional character has no victims. Victims are what makes it immoral
Yes
Why can’t y’all be obsessed with food like normal people?
They could just love cereal instead of serial killers, smh! 😶
@@rahulsolanki857 I’m a true crime fan, but these people are insane, judging by these people and how far gone they are, they probably pour the milk first.
Right?! My fatass is obsessed over chocolate looool
@@gabrielasarertnoc9885 Same, though? I just cannot get enough of it.
PEOPLE ARE DIFFERENT. Some individuals obsess over movie stars & celebrities while other individuals obsess over school shooters & mass murderers. Trey Sesler is a perfect example of this. His hobby was Anime but his obsession was school shooters. And look what he did and look how he ended up with in the end.
There were several shooting threats on my school today, and I was scared as hell. I have no clue why anyone would want to romanticize that...
Raging Artist There was a school shooting threat at my school on the last day and I was scared to death, I stayed home and cried so hard thinking about what could’ve happened to my friends.
I live around 15 minutes from parkland and we had a shooting threat and a bomb threat in the same week, during that week the fire alarm went off shortly before the last period and my teacher was physically upset because she thought she might be leading us to our death but she had to make a decision, this is scary, and it’s real and not some sort of fan fiction
As a person that was involved in a shooting which basically ruined my fucking life I get so fucking angry at those angsty thots that want to hop on a shooters dick. Why the FUCK would you want to fuck a dude that killed several innocent students? I really don't understand, jfc.
Bittersweet Sodapop id ask for more details on what happened but don't wanna upset you
Ember D&T I'm alright talking about it, don't worry. There really isn't much to tell though. It was the school shooting on March 11th 2009 in Germany, Winnenden. I was in 5th grade in the classroom and suddenly we heard loud noises from above and a few minutes later how people were falling down from above. The class next to us ran outside, telling us to run since someone is shooting up there. Half my class (including me) ran out the window to the public swimming pool since it was the only building near us where we could get help and the others went there too. The other students stayed in the classroom but ended up meeting us hours later at the pool as well. When we arrived at the pool we saw lots of older students (from the classrooms above) wounded and covered in blood. I got taken to a friends house where my mom picked me up and hours later I got told what exactly had happened. The realization hit days later and I am so glad nothing happened to me or my mom since she took the same route as the shooter and me and my class ran out the building the same time the shooter did. I don't want to sound dramatic and I don't want pity but it was terrible and I wish this upon nobody. It fucks up your life. I am constantly scared when in a school, I always sit close to the window and never with my back to the door due to the fact the students got shot from behind. The guy wanted to shoot up the whole school, he even had a backpack full of ammo in the restroom next to our classroom. Seeing girls getting wet over people like that makes me so mad.
As someone who wants to go to school to become a Criminal Psychologist; these people disgust me and really need to find help. Having an interest in true crime (like you said) is completely fine and honestly it’s an interesting topic to follow. But the people who give these criminals any positive feedback for what they did isn’t okay. They aren’t a celebrity!
Edit: I accidentally typed “in” instead of “an”
Ravyn Conway omg same! i am also an aspiring criminal/forensic psychologist !!
@M481M it's Lydia Deetz from the Beetlejuice cartoon
Cheesy mic Squeezy lmao yeah stick to your little highschool classes for now
You will have to change your way of thinking then. "They disgust me" is not a comlon thought among professionals.
Kiui They don’t have to change anything. They’re looking in to what makes the killers want to do this; what warrants them to make these incredibly chilling actions. They are fully allowed to be disgusted with the things that are done. But it’s also going to be their field of work so I see where you’re coming from.
Sounds like a bunch of egdelords to me.
Or those types of girls who think they can change these type of people with their love and care like in those movies or whatever.
Basically
The type of girls who call themselves psychopaths but are too scared to ask for ketchup at a restaurant
Imagine being at school, not wanting to be there, just to end up getting killed.
by your classmate...
then find out people glorify your killers.
@@pot.8327that never gave back your fav pen
@@ddqio7774 NOOOOO GRRRRRRR
When i was in school, i never even had a thought of it.. today, i dont want my future kids to go to school havin to worry about this.
I'm fascinated by serial killers, but the fandom seems so twisted. I'm glad I don't understand it.
agreed.
The fact that this kind of fandom exists and encourages crime makes me absolutely sick.
Also the pic at 9:24 pissed me the fuck off.
I’ve always found that people who feel broken gravitate toward people they see as needing “fixing,” myself at a younger age included. Young girls or women who feel the world doesn’t get them and that they’ll never fit in (which is sadly a lot) want to find that one person who sees them for who they really are. This sometimes manifests as looking for people who they see as being “broken” too, and they want to fix them and live happily ever after. It also manifests and finding someone who also doesn’t fit in and being each other’s whole world. That’s what I see what I hear about the TCC. It’s sad to me because I know where they’re coming from, doesn’t excuse the behavior but I still get it a little bit. Fixing the broken and taming the wild don’t mend what’s going on inside, it just causes more pain. Hopefully the girls that get wrapped up in all this realize that one day.
Welp. Commented this partway through, pressed play, and you said it right after 😅 Should’ve waited.
Emily White I’m in the TCC. Thank you for this beautiful writing
"I relate to them because of their backstory/because they were bullied" bruh thats why you get bullied💀
What?
@@picopico7114 the reason the girl that got interviewed is being bullied is probably because she relates to serial killers
Bro I don't like these Hybristophilias anymore than you do but the interview-y isnt have a crush oh these murders,, but she sympathies with how they were mistreated. She understands what they did was absolutely terrible. She shamed them for that. But cant you understand how shitty it is to be degraded like that? It's okay to like the story of murder's and feel bad for what they went through. On the other hand its absolutely not okay for them to brush off their crimes and say they didnt do anything wrong.
THIS COMMENT IS TOO FUNNY
@@picopico7114 awww 🥺 too bad
People.
Mental health. Is. Not. An. Excuse.
Bullying is also not an excuse.
There is no excuse for murder or rape. Those kids who took the life of other kids, they're murderers. Cold. Hearted. Murderers.
I mean, look at me. My mental health is really frigging bad and I was bullied and still being bullied. And what exactly am I doing? Taking a gun and shooting innocent kids at my school? no. Because their lives are not in my hands, and their fate is not mine to decide. Nothing is an excuse for murder. NOTHING. You can learn from the mistakes of murderers on how NOT to become like them, NOT ADMIRE THEM. And you know why? Because they are cold hearted murderers. They would probably murder you if you were at their school at the time of the shooting. They don't care who you are, they want to kill, and find themselves excuses to do so, but those excuses are nothing more than lies. It's like killing your cat or dog because "the Earth is over populated."
And I will repeat.
Mental health or social status is not an excuse for a crime.
Thank you for sticking through to the end.
While I agree it is not an excuse, it is important to recognize it as motives to try to prevent these things, is it not?
100% agreed. Well said my friend, you need more likes for that.
Except for "Lol I was bored"
Lol no1 is mentally stable we all have sick thoughts almost everyday its part of being human some of us just have shitty impulse control
Mental health is not an excuse. It is a reason. A good one.
The TCC tag (at least on tumblr) is also used for Teacher Crush Community, so uhh. That tag, be careful man. There’s a bit of confusion in there.
Both are equally disturbing
@@letsnotdothat975 Why the fuck having crush on teacher is disturbing. Teacher are human, some probably good looking.
@@bunnyfreakz you leave school at 18 and can choose to go to university/college most of the people there are young middle schoolers it's like being a minor dating an older person.
Sad for you to say this honestly.
bunnyfreakz do you not know what fucking Pedophiles and Underage Dating is?
Lara • 2019 years and
Yeah ofc those are, definitely crimes, but you can’t blame young people for being attracted to older people (you know, hormones, and just being young and stupid in general). If the older person acts on it and uses the young person’s attraction to their advantage, now that’s the problem. I mean, if anyone uses someone’s attraction to their advantage to manipulate them, it’s a problem, regardless of age. But you can’t blame the person for being attracted, they are the victims. And besides, do they students know better, if they do get into a relationship with the teacher? You just can’t blame the students here, blame the teacher, they’re supposed to teach and protect, not take advantage.
I don't see that many "groupies" or fetishists now (~5 years ago when I ran an informational true crime Tumblr I did lol), but I do see a HELL of a lot of girls on TH-cam nowadays who do true crime and are extremely disrespectful to the victims and their families, and treat it like it's a GRWM video or some shit lmao. Bubbly, cute music, makeup all on, cute outfit, bright, floral background, barely any research, and talk about people losing family members while giggling and smiling. To me, that kind of insensitivity can be just as cringe.
Rachy Stogner true but tbh I only ever watch Kendall Rae and another TH-camr and they’re completely respectful tbh, the other TH-camr even took a video down because a parent didn’t like it, so I don’t think it’s right to group them all together.
Also an afterthought why can’t a girl wear makeup or look presentable in a video if it’s a murder case, unsolved mystery, a Jane doe case. Sorry for being presumptive, it just seems that you put looking presentable in a negative light.
I know what you mean, they treat these cases in such a detached way like it's a scary ghost story rather than something tragic that really happened to an actual person.
There are only a few channels I will watch for true crime stories. Cayleigh Elise is one of my favorites, her channel respectfully covers unsolved murder & missing person cases. You can tell she truly cares and is fully aware these are real people she's reporting on, her videos are always properly researched and well put together.
Predatorhousepet OMG YES
Well said dude I’m sick of finding those types of videos.
Could you tell me the names of some of those youtube channels you talk about?
They just read too many mafia fanfics on wattpad lol
Girl I- 🤣💀
Too many "Jeff the killer X reader" stories.
@@quaiful7487 Who The Hell Finds That Creature Attractive
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theres a lot of creepypasta fanfics, i remember being in that ✨phase✨ when i was 11
@@zephyr2851 Funny How I Never Went Through That Phase
I've always been interested in death and gore.
As a very young child I would watch all the best crime shows from NCIS to Rizzoli & Isles.
I would also watch the Investigation Discovery channel and the news, just to hear about all the latest and oldest crimes!
I was also fascinated by surgical mishaps and disasters.
This is what is currently leading me on my pursuit to become a Medical Examiner/Coronor.
I've always wanted to examine corpses of those who've died in unknown ways that way I can find out what killed them, help solve crimes, and give the victim's family closure.
I keep quiet about my career goals because whenever I tell people, they cringe and say "Oh...that's weird."
However, I do not support the "crazy" side of the True Crime Community, they honestly disgust me how they sexualize serial killers and rapists.
I'm part of the TCC but only for the mysteries and actual psychological side of criminals.
I only want to know why and how they did it.
I do not want to have sex or form a relationship with ANY killer or any criminal.
I think anyone who DOES want to do that needs some help, maybe therapy or a break from the Internet and the ION tv channel.
Yeah, I like learning about killers and love seeing the pictures of what they've done, not sure why but I love it.
Oh god this is exactly like me, I want to become a coroner and help find out how people died. I haven’t told anyone because who the fucks wants to be a coroner???
@@Mundane_InTheMembrane idk about.. the love part, chief..
oh... thats weird.
It’s not weird to wanna give closure and help solve crime in my opinion, sure it’s a dead body but you are helping people in the process
Rip to all victims :((
You need to stop.
Can you not do the stupid face please
hold up
Reb and Vodka TM Call me Ella lol why are u here
Omg shut the fuck up... you're just saying that just to gain likes
Boy do I feel normal.
preach, bro
Honestly same, and I ship landmasses
Not My Austria Lmao what
*_Helltalia_*
SR Brant I have been watching Vikings for years now. Last year I fell in love with Ivar the Boneless, the cruelest Viking in the world. I’m STILL writing letters to him even though I know he can’t reply. My crush on and attachment to him is lasted a year and is still very strong. I identify with him because even though we’re disabled in different ways, we still suffer from society’s attitudes towards disabled people and how we’re mad at the world for it. I’m pretty sure I’d be the only one able to calm him down when he gets upset or in a rage, and I know he’d always protect me. Now here I am feeling amazed and dumbfounded at how extreme and far THESE people have fallen. So sad.
Lmao they’re killers they don’t care about anyone but themselves.They’d slaughter these “fans” if they had a chance without remorse it’s actually kinda sad if you think about it.
Not really....
There was this documentary about a guy, i forgot his name, he was a serial killer and married. His wife was shooked, and told the police that she had no idea like, her husband was the perfect kind, sweet and all.
They all have standards i think, if i am not mistaken, Dahmer standard of killing was young male.
@@jackpreacher3514 well yes they all have their MO but the point is that they wouldn’t hesitate to take the life of someone else. If the fans of the Columbine shooters were at their school that day they wouldn’t hesitate to shoot everyone in their way.
this is absolutely sickening. i've seen stuff about that on tumblr and i felt like throwing up. i can't believe there are people like this.
Holy shit! I was actually informed by yt that you posted a video
Yes, it can be. As there are lighter forms of liquid. Which can "wet" the water
Web Fungus right right right
for the first time in forever
I can't like this because you're at 404 likes. I just CAN'T
Jake Pringle The dark side of the force is one that leads to a pathway that many would consider to be unnatural.
Columbiners sound like Edgy JakePaulers
Lmao yeah
They really do
Iacen Reapre1172 it’s every day bro with that trench coat digest flow
Lol
They really do.
That Columbine blogger chick needs to learn the difference between the words empathize and emphasize.
LMAOOO i was just thinking that
Everyone mispronounces stuff once in a while...
Joanna Mysluk just shooting the shit, really.
Good 🐱🐱🐱
She talks like she is completely normal, she has a lot of growing up to do
that sketch of richard ramirez activates my fight or flight response
i remember being in a kik group with one of those "columbiners" she was so damn annoying and would keep going on and on about eric and Dylan she even wore shirts that quoted them and would always send pictures- removing her wasn't an option since the mod was friendly with her so i bailed
I think this is some sort of kink. Maybe one of those weird psycho kinks that some girls had back on those edgy anime image boards where they'd talk about murderous fantasies with murderer anime characters. Maybe it's like that but with real people?
So like... Doki Doki literature. Club 😂👌
Hybristophilia
I think its them being unable to process the crimes. They mentally are unable to process it to the point that they try to find the logic of why, and are unable to find it so they turn to romanticizing them. It's easier to look at them as a troubled man with a horrible past then a cold blooded murderer. From there that romantization turns to I could have stopped them I could have changed and fixed them. I could have helped them realize what they did wrong. When it's not truely been found how to help or "cure" these disorders.
Ooh me, me! I'm one of those girls!! It is similar, but most of us (who are old enough to know better...) have a hard line in the sand we draw. For me personally it's like a switch flips with fictional vs real events, to the point that I'm straight up confused when other chicks are into that Ted Bundy shit. The idea that someone would want to bang legit, real-world, unregulated crazy does not compute.
The definition of groupie low key sounds like stalking.
Sasaeng is basically that
In a way you're correct.
I thought it was another word for orgy when I was younger
A person that I followed on Instagram used to romanticize the columbine shooters in such a creepy way to the point of making edits of them. Thankfully she realized it was super fucked up of her to be in the community and now she’s doing better than ever
Not subbing to Reign bot is a true crime.
Ibrahim Hassan speak English pls
No, subbing to reign bot is true crime
You are a wordsmith.
Spider web trash bag *please
agreed
I wrote a loooong ass paper on columbine in high school (I want to go into criminal psych) and after researching and finding out about the whole "fandom" aspect I wanted to write the whole paper about that since it was so shocking to me. Shit's crazy
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you sound like a passionate, intellectual person!
@@deadinside7750 wait, is this a joke because I swore so much in this comment? If not thanks haha
@@bebitter it was genuine ahahahah hope you're doing fine!
@@deadinside7750 they do sound really smart
Well the columbiners will be happy to know that they can go to any highschool, find a socially awkward guy who gets picked on, and save them like they would have Eric and Dylan. Except that in reality, like the girls in the school, they would find themselves unattracted to them.
The TCC tag also belongs to the "Teacher Crush Community" for people who have crushes on their teachers.
In a nutshell, if the community is called TCC it's fucked up
TheLegendarySuperSandwich Basically. There's definitely a gap between liking your teacher and liking a serial killer, though.
We need a *clean* TCC.
-The Cuddle Club
-Totally Cute Cats
-Three Cool Cucumbers
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DeadMemes AreDelicious editing Liking men
Y’all really sleeping on the fact that Luka Magnotta abused a series of cats which got him caught by a group of people online
Oh god I remember going to that website..
i read all about it. his case is sooo fucked. when he was mentioned my blood ran cold.
I wonder if you people said the same thing if he did it with any other animal, one that usually isn't a pet, like a farm animal, or do only pet lives matter?
@@PinkiePie45838283734666o9 animals however the species must be defended and loved. However condemning them to starvation and over population by discouraging hunting and consumption is a greater evil than eating them. I stated the case facts. Had he abused any other animal, domestic or farm animal, it would have been the same result. Don’t come at me because you are out to prove to the world your stupidity. Thank you very much.
@@emilyn.6854 Triggered meat eater. Just because it tastes good doesn't mean it's right.
I love True Crime (I thank my late Grandma for getting me into shows like America's Most Wanted and 48 hours for my love of it), but I am not going get wet over pictures of Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, Jeffery Dahmer, Ted Bundy, or Richard Ramirez. They are monsters who don't deserves this type of admiration. It disgusts me that people use the #TCC as a cover for their disgusting fetish, they are monsters not icons.
*gets wet*
It's kinda a fruitless turn on, putting aside they both dead. It's been proven that they were sexually involved with each other. The bullying of their homosexuality or presumed bullying in response to them being "outted" may have factored into what they did.
Jerrod Schembs Are you referring to the Columbine killers? If so it's never been proven that they were sexually involved with one another. Out of all the myths,rumors and speculation surrounding them that's something that has zero evidence to support it. I've been researching Columbine pretty much since the week it happened and the only times I've come across that is in some awful fan fictions written by people on Tumblr.
Screw you, they are better than you!
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@@callmekai97 I think you got some electric shock for a moment hope you ok now