The REBEL In The Steroid Era
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ม.ค. 2022
- Pedro Martinez, the REBEL during the infamous "Steroid Era"
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Is Pedro Martinez the GREATEST pitcher of all time?
Yes, no questions asked
Yes
@@LouieOcean2 a give me the best during a specific period, by a lot, over a stat compiler any day
@@LouieOcean2 Who did if it wasn't him?
@@LouieOcean2 bro the crap u talking about? No one has a perfect overall career, you can’t just say he’s not the best when he got a little worse when he got older, look at Jon Lester, look at David wright, look at Andrew mcutchen, look at don sutton. And there’s SOOO many more names I could go over.
I was in the Boston Children’s Hospital waiting room during the ‘03 season. I was in and out of it but I realized just by voice alone, I was sitting next to Pedro Martinez! I was really shy but I really looked up to him and asked for a signature. He was really kind and signed the back of my “medical history” paper and told me to “hang in there.” As a 9-year old now 28, I’m still so grateful for such a small act of kindness!
Glad you got through that. Wish you good health going forward.
Senior plunk!
Funny when he 1st came to the big leagues he wasn’t even the best pitcher in the family..His brother Ramon”The stick man” Martinez was really good for the Dodgers for a while
And considering his dad was a pro pitcher, that family has baseball in their DNA
Ramon was terrific before he hurt his arm.
Cheddar...correct. Both Martinez brothers were in AAA Albuquerque Dukes for years. LA Dodgers were always trying to turn Pedro into a short relief man. Pedro's big break was when he got traded to the Expos for Delino DeShields, a 2B.
He did solid for my red Sox too
I used both on same team in old MLB games
Foolish Baseball’s deep dive on this really shows how strong these numbers are. His ERA+ is absolutely insane.
That video is a great watch
I believe that piece came out when people were talking about how dominant Jacob deGrom was and how he was having the most dominant pitching season ever. Video pretty much settled the debate!
@@llydrsn Jacob's number in the modern day and context has my respect as well. As a Soxs fan tho...Pedro will always have my bias
@@kevinso187 ah yes, I am a Sox fan myself so there is no question who had the better season. Although I don't think it's a stretch to say that facing today's 3 true outcomes type of hittter would yield a more impressive stat line from Pedro than even his 1999 and 2000 seasons.
@@kevinso187 his numbers are insane, and they STILL don't match Gibson, Maddux, Tom Seaver.
Seaver pitched 4783 innings to Pedro's 2827 innings and Seaver has a LOWER career ERA.
Seaver also had a 1.76 ERA and 20 wins when the mets scored 588 runs and Pedro at 18 wins and a 174ERA on a boston red sox team that scored 838 runs
What Pedro did during the steroid era was phenomenal. He owned the opposing teams. And did so in dominating fashion. His ERA from 97 to 2003. Wow.
i don't know. i'm not sure steroids would have made Brett, Boggs, Tony better hitters from a "making contact" and getting a hit perspective.
You don't think Pedro did steroids? Bless your heart
@@edwardsmith8575 that's his point...what he did AGAINST roided up hitters
@@RobertMJohnson he was a roider. Pedro definitely benefitted from using steroids.
@@edwardsmith8575 i wasn't aware he had. i guess i shouldn't be surprised
1999-2000 Pedro was the best 2 year run of any pitcher ever
Your probably right..Although Sandy Koufax may have something to say about that
In the jacked up American league east too.
5'10 and 170 pounds no steroids just pure talent.
That’s a hungry athlete there
@@simpleagain1 Lmfao!!
I got to meet Pedro at an Astros game. My dad went to school with Bobby Cuellar who was the Expos pitching coach. We went down to the visitors bullpen to talk with Bobby, and Pedro walked up and rattled something off in Spanish to Bobby. Bobby introduced us to Pedro, we shook hands, and Bobby said this guy will be a huge star with his stuff. Boy was he right.
Pedro had arguably the best season by a pitcher in MLB history in one of the most dominant offensive seasons in MLB history (2000)
He is the exclusive club of pitchers with more strikeouts than innings pitched for a career, Nolan ryan, sandy Koufax, and randy Johnson the others.
Dominican players blow my mind.
Interviewer: You grew up hitting orange seeds with a GI Joe arm and the only pro baseball you ever saw was on a tv assembled from 8 other tvs with Coke bottles for a screen. It's quite remarkable.
Dominican player: :smiles:: Yes
Gotta be something in the water down there. MLB players seem to just grow on trees
@@Blake-cb8gu we love baseball like it’s literally in our veins
@@Xenlacasa45 there's definitely something in Dominican players veins...😁
@@stevengallant6363 yup Guererro, tatis, Soto. Young players at the elite level 🇩🇴 must sting don’t it 😁
@@Xenlacasa45 Dominican players get away with it because juicing is legal in their country I think it should be allowed in all sports
Probably the best circle change up of all time. 15-20 mph slower than his 4 seam, came in hot and just dropped on the batter at the last second with so much movement.
Wish I was old enough to watch all of those seasons. Cant imagine someone putting up peak Kershaw/Degrom numbers in the middle of the steroid era. Unreal.
He movement on his pitches are insane. His all star game performance was a event. Even for a inning or less.
Can we talk about the framing of Jason Varitek? ELITE!!!!!
Tbh, I think what makes Pedro most special is where and when he did it. Dude pitched in a teeny AL stadium during the height of the steroid era. Insane!!!’
The 62 home run record was actually broken 6 times. Sosa and Mark during the race, Sosa and mark again the following year, and bonds and Sosa during bonds 73 year. Everyone forgets Sosa broke it 3 times and never led the league in home runs. Insane stat in my opinion
But he got ejected for using cork bat
Used corked bats and juiced to the gills.. his testosterone was what was insane.
Got nothing for these cheaters
Actually none of them broke it bc their numbers were all artificially enhanced. Aaron judge is the home run king.
My favorite pitcher of all time, legend vote for pedro
Fantastic presentation! He truly was one of a kind. The bummer in baseball at that time was you couldn't watch games outside of your local broadcast so much. Lots of us couldn't watch his freak of nature, God given Pedro show. One thing I've noticed nowadays because he's on pre/post-game shows is he's such a humble guy and really fun personality. When he pitched he was fiery.
Bro, as a Met's fan - the fact that HE and Tommy Glavine were BOTH WELL past their primes - and STILL pitched like a couple of modern day aces - is absolutely crazy. Had we had a bunch of young aces like 2015 - your videos would be speaking about a Mets WS championship in the 2000s.
You didnt mentioned Pedro pitched 10innings without allowing a hit nor a walk, he didnt got the perfect game due to the Expos didnt support Pedro not even scoring in the game
Pedro was an artist, Maddux was a professor, and Johnson was a freak (in the best of ways, of course.) What a time to be a fan!
Those few slurves you saw pitched on this video, made me giggle with how good they were. Miss 90s to early 2000s baseball
They're so satisfying to watch
@@iTalkStudios right? Just the movement is so satisfying
my first Sox game was September 21, 1999. Pedro got his 300th strikeout and pitched a complete game. He also lost his aunt prior to the game and wrote "Tia Maria" on his hat. Four days before my 21st birthday. It was awesome.
Easily the GOAT major league pitcher to wear the Jheri curl, Pedro rocked that like a boss!
I played baseball with some kids in the Dominican and it's no wonder they're so good. Looked exactly like the B-roll shown too. We used broom sticks and bottle caps in a little park space where these 7yo kids were crushing nearly full speed pitches. I was a decent year round baseball player growing up and still only hit about half as many pitches. They just had crazy good coordination and literally nothing else to do for fun except the games they'd make up. Even just making it to highschool league baseball is a huge accomplishment, it takes far more than just talent.
Elaborate please muchaco.
@@philithegamer8265 pretty sure he did stupido
Thisi s one of the coolest videos I've ever seen on youtube related to sport heroes. I remember when I was a kid I was obsessed with Pedro and I loved watching him play - little did I know he was doing it at the height of the steroid era. Your video made me cry bc I now understand why he was my hero as a kid more than any other baseball player at the time.
...but he did steroids dude lol
Pedro, Randy Johnson and Roy Holladay are my favorite pitchers of all time.
Pedro was like a magician out there. Definitely one of the best to ever step on a mound.
I love to see how much bigger your channel has become! Keep up the quality and your numbers will surely rise!
Wathing Pedro pitch are some of the happiest memories I have
ken grefffery was also 3rd that year and had the HR lead until aug that should get more love seeing as Jr didnt cheat like the other two
Ryan braun was just as skinny as Griffey. No one knows for sure who did what.
One thing regarding his 17 strikeout complete game against the Yankees - he only gave up one hit, a solo home run to Chili Davis, and walked none. He was one bad pitch away from a perfect game.
A great tribute to Pedro! I love just watching him mow down the opposition with all the highlights on screen. It would be great, though, to have a graphic of the many statistics you rattle off verbally either overlaid off to the side of the highlights or just cut to a graphic where we can read the numbers along with your narration so that we don’t have to miss the strikeout action. It’s just very difficult for the average viewer to ingest and comprehend all of these audible numbers rattles off in rapid succession.
all time rotation:
1. Martinez
2. Gibson
3. Feller
4. Ryan
5. Johnson (either one)
All-time rotation of starters:
1. Koufax
2. Gibson
3. Kershaw
4. Maddux
5. Martinez
I think Jerry Remy perfectly summed up how good Pedro is/was. He said Pedro could go up to you, tell you what pitch he was gonna throw, throw it, and you would still miss it. RIP RemDawg.
I think Pedro probably understood that anything gained by steroids would actually have been a detriment to his pitching. He was so effective because of the movement on his pitches, achieved by the whip like action of his arm and wrist. Over-developing those muscles would have probably flattened out his fastball. You want an example of what I'm taking about, watch some of the few clips of Mark Fidrych in his rookie year. That lanky fella had just crazy movement on his pitches, even when they were down in the zone. That's a god given gift that steroids can only hinder, not help.
I always had more movement in the bottom third of the strike zone than the top
Untrue.
That's just not how the body works
He def coudl fi took recovery steroids only to help him self pich evey 3 days instead of 6
He did not but he should pf
Great Video! I always love seeing a new video pop up
And I always love seeing your comments. They made my day!
Feeling privileged to have seen Pedro pitch at Shea Stadium back in the day
MLB Power Pros Pedro Martinez Is Just Filthy
Well deserved recognition for one of the greats
Baseball is the king of sports in the Dominican Republic.
It was an event when Pedro pitched, so much so there was a self-imposed national curfew.
We didn't get to see Juan Marichal but we saw Pedro.
Boca de chivo, my nickname for him alluring to his goatee mustache.
We love him, he can eat for free any house in the DR
His delivery seemed to be SO flexible, and take so much advantage of a long motion to whip the ball up there. And he could repeat it!
Super underrated in baseball history. He was a pitcher in an era known for offense and he was absolutely unbelievable.
My favorite player all-time. He was so good and absolutely hilarious.
Wonderful clip. Wonderful narration and analysis. Aces all the way. Thank you.
When Pedro pitched, it was an event. Every fifth day you knew you would see something special.
Pedro’s trick were his humongous fingers and his heart. He is by far the best pitcher I have ever seen.
Pedro needs to be a pitching coach come on cubs pay that man whatever he wants
I just love your channel. It makes me happy.
This comment just made my day❤️
Love these vids
thank you!!!
1999 guy had an era just above 2 with over 300ks to 37 walks while winning 23 games. Then there's 97 where he torched baseball with a sub 2 era, 14 complete games, over 300ks. But I agree with most, 2000 was special his whip was .74 with a 1.74 era simply was near unhittable
I think Pedro is probably the only dominant pitcher during the steroid era who would've had less success in the '80s facing teams like Cardinals, Dodgers, or the Mets, teams that manufactured runs. Imagine Pedro facing hitters like Mattingly, Gwynn, Boggs, Henderson during the '80s, it would have been a lot of fun.
Pedro was straight Beast Mode.
amazing video, love Pedro
Pedro was much watch tv during that period, just fantastic
Grew up in Boston and i got to see pedro in his prime. I even saw him pitch at Fenway a few times. I'll never forget that 99 all star game performance. In my eyes, that was Pedro (to the detriment of his own health) going 150% in an exhibition game just to watch those gigantic , juiced up, 60+ HR hitting goons whiff to a fastball thrown by a 5 foot 8 dude in front of the Fenway crowd. Still one of my favorite sports moments.
Pedro had that “get the fuck outta here” look after a strikeout
These are gold more Pedro Martinez and Manny Ramirez videos !
Greatest of all time. Won’t hear any other answer
Big fax. His numbers alone are incredible. Add in context and he’s in a god tier of pitchers
it's debatable. Maddux, Bob Gibson, Koufax, Johnson, Guidry, Clemens, Gooden all in contention for "best season ever". Technically it's Bob Gibson hands down.
@@RobertMJohnson Clemens took steroids bruh
@@blitzkrieg634 ya but Clemens is probably the only guy that woulda been Hall of Fame with or without the steroids…
So, i heard "mom works a lot and dad couldnt even scrounge up a baseball"
Saw him in Montreal awesome stuff
The steroid rebel was Greg Maddux. Dudes fastball used to max out around 92, and most of his changeup strikeouts were around 75 mph.
He was anti-strength. Martinez was just not big. He could still rear back and toss a 99 by you. And no, not saying Pedro was on roids, but he had the tools to fight power.
Maddux did not. Yet still had insane numbers in that era as well.
He was great, his location was spot on he could hit the corners like I never seen a pitcher do and you right only 92 at most still was dominant and no nonsense pitcher he came right at you!
Pedro was most likely on roads at least one year with Red Sox
I remember him showing up one year for spring training and he'd put on 15+ lbs of lean muscle mass in the off season
It may have been 2002 coming off his injury in 2001
It was definitely noticeable
Maddux used to get fastballs off corner called strike, he wasn't only one, but Braves pitchers, in particular, I remembered that. Pedro had nasty curve and great change up to go along with 97 mph fastball. Major league hitters can hit 97 mph pitches
yup, neck and neck. both were great.
Yep. That's a great video. Loaded with facts and arriving at fair conclusions from them. Great job.
¡ Qué clase 'e pitcher !
I thought that little kids sign said “want more money ??? I’ll give you my allowance if you DONT SUCK!!” Which would of been by far the best sign ever
I love Pedro one of my favorite athletes of all time not too mention he brought Brady to Boston as well as Big Papi!!
He had nothing to do with Brady going to the Patriots. He did help bring Big Papi, though.
When you watch him pitch its incredible good luck lol him and Bob Gibson were in my eyes the greatest to play the game
They had to change the rules for Gibson. What a stud.
Love the new intro
As a Dominican I can tell you that the doll head statement is fact, real baseballs were very rare, unless you were playing organized league.
In Canada saying so poor it was mangoes for dinner doesn’t have the same impact. That shits expensive.
I think he was probably the most dominant pitcher in mlb history in his prime.
Pedro’s Change-Up… my goodness
So satisfying
No one ever, was like Pedro!
I love your diligent research and love 💕 that Pedro never juiced. Truly worthy of praise.
LOOOOL He did.
@@radiobemba5519prove it
and you know what's funny and incredible at the same time, when they show the video of the area Pedro grew on , that's like 2019 or 2020's videos..... just IMAGINE that same videos but in the 70's and 80's....
I love Pedro!!!!
one sign that pedro didnt take peds is that his velocity and endurance fell off quite fast after those two seasons
My favorite player ever. Such a little
Beast!
And Ramon was a HELL of a pitcher before Pedro.
It's not ironic that the 61 record was set in '61. It's coincidental.
Let's talk about that it seems like no one in the AL did it for example Maris hit 61 homeruns in a season back like what was 50s or 60s as of 2 day that record still stands and also the Royals team record of only 35 homer in a season by 1 player was back in the 80s it was only broken like what after 2010s
'61 also so two player chasing Ruth's homerun record. Mickey Mantle was in the hunt as well before an injury took him out of contention.
Ouch! Yeah I remember that
I believe Pedro wasn’t on PEDs, but in general an athlete being really skinny doesn’t automatically mean he isn’t on PEDs. Any athlete can for instance take testosterone and if they aren’t into lifting weights, their physical appearance won’t alter much but they will still get performance enhancement in pretty much any physical activity.
Is that factual?
@@TH-camsucks777 yes
Pedro trained with the guy who gave steroids to Sammy Sosa and Juan Gonzalez at the same same time as they did. He's at the very least guilty by association.
I'm a Yankees fan and one of Pedro's daddy's.
I love my son. He's the greatest ever
The goat by far!!
When u see a professional miss a fastball that bad u know he's in there head
The goat, yes his career didn’t last as long as others but pedro put up historic numbers. Had all time great seasons arguably some of the best during the steroids era the most offensive hitter friendly era ever. This without a doubt puts him high on that list. He’s my goat
There’s definitely something, I have a friend who played rookie ball for the padres and a lot of those guys he played with came in with their arms juiced from home.
Lol
@@frankwest7995 it’s true man, even had pictures.
Pedro is like a king in Boston
All Pedro's records were earned legally
All the other records were too.
Came as soon as I saw the noti. Didn’t think to comment till just now tho 😂
hahaha that means you were invested in the video! I love it.
@@iTalkStudios yessir! Can’t beat great content
Funny how for being a team thanksgiving I have a high dislike for, the Red Sox sure do have/had several players that I respect and/or admire. Not just for baseball reasons either. Another really great player and human being. I’m not sure if he’s the greatest pitcher, but this definitely makes a good case.
I'd say for about a 6 or 7yr span Pedro was among the greatest pitchers of all time but he kind of fell off hard really fast after the 2004 world series and then he left the red sox and he kind of just seemed to fall to irrelevancy until his retirement
@@BendyDH Agreed, but he was on a scoreless inning streak with the Mets one time. His greatness hung on for a bit.
@@BendyDH Others had better careers because of length but Pedro is the best to ever do it imo. I'm a long time Red Sox fan and got to watch nearly every start Clemens and Pedro ever made for the Sox. At their peaks Pedro was the better pitcher and it's not even close really.
@@BendyDH I mean I think you’re assessment and memory of Pedro after 04 are really off. He only played 4 more years after that, the first 2 years he was an all star with the Mets in 05 and 06. The first year he was 15-8 with a 2.82 era and 210 strike outs. In 06 he started strong but battled injuries and had to be put on a strict innings count and ended the year 9-8. He was hurt the years after that with the Mets and Phillies and basically didn’t really play
@@BendyDH He was already starting to break down from the heavy innings load he had during his Red Sox tenure. On top of that, I think things apparently got to his head a bit. According to stories from that time, he had a HUGE entourage that followed him around everywhere, even in the Red Sox clubhouse. I think his laser-sharp focus wavered at least in part from that.
Oh i found a new channel on this stuff i love.. is this better than baseball doesnt exist?
Big fan of Pedro .
And also please give some credit for Ichiro Suzuki playing in steroid Era. By the way They are good friends.
He just showed that if there is a will there is a way. He went against the biggest hitters and sent them to the bench.
His fastball had vicious movement on it.
Wow it need to be say and you just did it 🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿
Pedros games were an event, in Boston.
Ol Pedro, the kid that played baseball with sticks and oranges and came from a shack In the Dominican republic got paid around 454,000 dollars a game while at the red Sox.
If you ever heard of stupid money, that's stupid money.. imagine coming from that to this
"It wasnt everything as these guys were already talented major league players." Me watching the McGwire homer vs the Reds: Well the steroids accounted for something