Barry Bonds - A BROKEN Legacy
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- Barry Bonds, a BROKEN legacy.
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Does Barry Bonds belong in the hall of fame?
Nah
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No
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If you cut off his career after the 99 season when he supposedly started roiding, he was still an all time great. He was his own worst enemy
not the greatest tho.
No question, he would have been in Cooperstown by now.
No where near the greatest not even better then Griffey or Frank Thomas,if those 2 juiced they would’ve been on bonds level,Griffey probably better
@@Ninjersey1 After 1999, Bonds had 3 MVPS, was a 40/40 guy, 8 gold gloves, over 90 WAR and established the 400/400 club. He was the best player of the 90s
That's the saddest part. He and Clemens both were 1st ballot HOFers and probably among the top five or ten position players and pitchers all time respectively without roids.
The thing is bond was already hall of fame material before taking ped, dude was insane
Griffey jr was better though.
@@jrljr69maybe if bonds didn’t do roids, but bonds is better is basically everything
i was at a Braves/Giants game in Atlanta in 2001, in the midst of Bonds’ 73HR season, and when he came up to bat, 40,000 people booed, but it was like they were cheering, almost an ecstatic boo, never seen a vibe like that in sports 😂
anyway he cranked a home run and everybody booed even harder
He just gave everyone what they wanted….all the baseball purists wanted it…their infantile dream…and then it was crushed by their stupidity
Yes! I had a similar experience at Wrigley when Bonds was chasing 755 HR. Bonds steps up to the plate...and the booing was surreal; it was so intense...that it really glorified his greatness. The focus every person had on the man was unparalleled...it was like a scene from the Mighty Casey. Then he proceeded to hit a ball so hard...that it looked like a pop-fly to right, and it kept rising and rising, and it simply got lost in the sky...we couldn't see it land! And like you said, the boos got even more intense as he rounded the bases...but so did the gasps of disbelief and amazement! Barry was already an all-time great; but big-head Barry was, cheating and ass-holery notwithstanding, the greatest single-player show in modern baseball history...better than McGwire, better than Bo, better than Reggie, better than anyone...
HR #70 on the road in Houston
Listen for the boos 😅
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@@pdubbs13 definitely wasn’t that game, cause the game i went to was daytime, hot and sunny
@@SeenGod Bonds hit 6 HR’s in ATL in 2001… All in the same series, May 18th - 20th… 1 on Fri, 3 on Sat night and 2 more on Sun afternoon. After HR #6 in the 7th vs Mike Remlinger, the ATL fans gave him a standing ovation. There were 33K+ tickets sold for the game at Turner field that day and they were amazed and appreciative of what they had seen. Braves won 11-6, so the home town fans were ever more accepting of what Bonds had done. What you’re describing simply did not happen in 2001.
As an old man, Ty Cobb allegedly said “ If I had it to do all over again I would have had more friends.” Got to wonder if an old Bonds will think the same thing. It’s really hard to cure arrogance.
And Ty Cobb used to sharpen his baseball spikes throughout his career. Look out for turning two at second base 😆
You'd be arrogant too if you were just simply better than every one around you lol.
@@matbettez3495 Hank Aaron wasn’t. How about Mike Trout? Barry Sanders?
@@alvinwagner6085 Your not actually comparing Trout to Barry bonds are you.........? SMH lol
@@thekanthalkid4273 No I was just mentioning some players that were “ better than everyone around them” and yet not arrogant like Bonds.
A Maryland native, in the early 1990's I sent a note to the Orioles front office explaining what a fan my 12 year old son was of Cal Ripken Jr. I requested that if they could send him an autographed Cal baseball it would send my boy to the moon. I sent the request in and enclosed a twenty dollar bill to cover their costs. About 3 weeks later we received an autographed Cal ball in the mail, gave it to my son and the look on his face was worth a million bucks.
3 days later we received another box from the Orioles, this one a bit larger, and opened it to find another Cal Ripken signed ball but with some wonderful extras. It was inside a beautiful clear jeweled box, a hand written note to my son from the man himself, two box seat tickets on the third base line to an upcoming Orioles-Red Sox game and my twenty dollar bill back. My boy came undone with joy! Later I had a frame made for the note from Cal, the 20 dollar bill and the two ticket stubs from the game. My boy still has the frame and ball to this day, displayed on the mantle piece at his home.
I will never forget the kindness and generosity from the Orioles front office and certainly Cal Jr. What a class act!
I just hope at least once while a player Mr. Bonds went out of his way to fill a young boy's heart with joy as well.
Barry Bonds is nothing compared to Cal Ripkin Jr. sir. If any kid looked up to Bonds as a kid they definitely should of learned their lesson by now about the person he was on and off the field. MLB isn't doing it right with the steroids testing still. An 80 game suspension is absolutely fucking laughable to these guys making $40M a year. Cal is one of the most respectable baseball players of all time. Bonds is an absolute disgrace. Yes we've all made our mistakes, but most of us own up to them and pay the price. Guess Bonds' father was an absolutely disgrace as well if he drove onto the College Baseball field and threatened the coach himself. We need Dana White and USADA in the MLB or Dana White needs to hold a seminar for all managers of the MLB, NBA & NFL. Although I think the NFL and the NBA do it right most of the time.
Damn that’s badass. I’m sure that autograph is worth thousands now
@@Jop278 Dana White is a bigger sleaze bag than Bonds/ is that really your choice to clean up the sport? He let Jon Jones fight a title fight after popping dirty by simply moving the fight last minute to a different state with a separate athletic commission...
I sent barry a letter when i was like 10 years old and he sent me an autographed baseball card back. Bonds is the greatest hitter of all time
@@butchdabayboss7073 Nope. He is one great drug addict, though. If Ruth had 'Roids. 1200 homers. Williams also a better hit. Plus Mays.
I was at PetCo when he hit the tie home run. Someone threw a large injection turkey baster (looked like a massive syringe) on the field. The ball landed in the stands above the Padre bullpen, but someone in the bull pen grabbed a warm-up ball and threw that on the field to make it look like no one wanted it. There's no warm feelings in San Diego for Barry.
NIIIICE 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I mean, when you have a father who defends his 20 year old son like he’s a 13 yo girl, Entitlement and arrogance will always follow.
Agreed, Bonds is a first class jerk.
Tell your father to stop defending you then.
It's not really even about what his father did. It's the fact that the kid takes full advantage of it... because the kid knows he can get away with it.
I *expect* that a parent will defend their child. But when their child isn't a real child... more like an an adult child... then I'd consider him an entitled momma's boy.
There are steroid users who are inducted into the hall of fame. And Barry is not one of them. While I won't pretend to know why that is... I would think that there are some mitigating circumstances that the 'rules for induction' have been overlooked. Perhaps the reason he hasn't been inducted lies within those perimeters?
I don't like cheaters. But maybe their circumstances are not nearly as serious or baseball-life-altering as Barry's. I don't know, as I haven't researched it. Let's face it, though.... the home run crown is pretty much the holy grail of sports achievements. Perceived cheating for that kind of bling WILL have the court of public opinion looking for torches & pitchforks.
Jerk. Ban him for life
What people fail to take into consideration is that Barry Bonds grew up in an era that was not so kind to men of his fathers era.
The attitude and behavior of the public and media was brutal. The front office was just as vicious.
Personally, I don’t blame Barry Bonds or any other professional athlete in their era for not being so trusting or friendly with the public or media.
It’s easy for judgmental types to cry about what Barry Bonds and others did or did not do…But, how many of you have a clue of what these men were forced to endure. Most of you would certainly crumble under the pressure.
He was awesome to watch and I loved his swing.
Had a little league baseball team that was invited to Coors field back some years ago . Colorado was playing SF in a day game and the kids were excited to possibly meet Barry Bonds . We were standing by the dugout when the players took the field to warm up . As Bonds approached , I asked him if he could say ‘ hello ‘ to the kids and maybe some words of encouragement . He looked at me as if I had asked him to donate a kidney . Didn’t say anything , warmed up 10 feet from the kids and never acknowledged them . As we were led off the field , I sarcastically said ‘ Thanks for your time , Superstar ‘ , he looked over and shot me the bird . What a world-class Ass -Hole !
That's the real Barry bonds
He was but he is the goat
You call him an asshole only because he did not do what you wanted. Who the hell are you?
If your head is stuck up your own ass…all you can do is see and smell your own crap!
The man did his job. Sure, some professional athletes go out of their way to do all of the ‘right’ things on occasion. That is wonderful! At the end of the day, no professional athlete gets paid to ensure you or your kids are given special treatment. They get paid to entertain you by playing the sport at the highest level of knowledge and skill possible. Without question, Barry Bonds played at the game at highest level possible.
You think that is bad my friend is a life long Giant fan at a game he and a bunch of people asked for an autograph Barry shoved my friend and said why don't all of you people get a fucking life.
We shouldn't meet our heroes with expectations they will be nice. When I was kid, Yankees wouldn't stop for autographs except couple guys. Got Rickey Henderson autograph, he was nice guy to fans
If I was his coach, his dad driving onto the field and threatening me would have gotten him kicked off the team.
This. And if I'm being honest, that whole "you mess with my son and I'll own this school" would have very likely gotten Bobby Bonds messed up right then and there.
No doubt. You could also toss in a visit to Bobby's house by the local police for uttering threats.
@@mage1439 Truth.
Bonds was the most intimidating hitter I ever witnessed.bonds was baseball.
Bonds, McGwire, and Sosa where baseball.
@@azul_6.5-cf7dm ,bonds was baseball.
@@azul_6.5-cf7dmonly Bonds
He was a base head for sure with all the roids in his system
Ken Griffey Jr. would’ve been the home run king if he didn’t get injured
I would have made the major leagues if I had a passion for T Ball growing up
Having a bad attitude has nothing to do with his playing career on the field. It doesn't help.. but to me he's the absolute Goat!
Watching this video just reminds me of how fucking awesome Ken Griffey Jr. is.
Yeah, right he ant no berry bonds dude now stop it..
I didn't run to the TV to watch ken Griffey fucking jr dude and neither did you... we ran to watch berry hit
Griffey was great but Barry Bonds is better! Bonds wasn't the easiest guy to get along with & that's the difference. That's why Griffey is in the HOF period!
@@joemcreynolds9150 You're wrong on that one, Griffey has a bigger butt and it stands out, just like in women the bigger but always WINS. Sorry, barry but not enough ass.
Griffey couldn’t carry Barry’s jock strap
I’d have to disagree about Mike Schmidt considering he only used amphetamines. He never used a drug that increased his longevity as a player beyond that of a mere mortal.
Frank Thomas admitted using amphetamines as well during the early days of his career when the schedule was more relentless
Noone ever doubted his legitimacy.
Greenies boosted their performance too. It increased their focus and made the ball look fat. Darryl Strawberry stated this. Said he could see the stitches on the baseball
@@ibrahimkhalif83 exactly straw said he saw the ball in slow motion when he took them and felt naked when he didnt
BIG difference between the two. The Giants had to get Bonds different sized caps and helmets because his head grew during the off season. That doesn’t happen naturally or with amphetamines.
Sure amphetamines are a performance enhancer but on no where near the level of steroids. And Bonds probably took greenies too. Team docs gave them out like candy from the 50's til the 90's.
I'm 44 years old, so I got to see most of Barry's career. I didn't like him even before the steroid scandal. He always seemed to have a really bad attitude.
Sounds like another Tim Anderson.
I remember watching a clip of Barry visiting the Pirates clubhouse when he was with the Giants. Nobody on the Pirates team even acknowlaged him. Catcher Mike Lavallier and a few others were playing cards and wouldn't even look up at him.
I remember a video of him lambasting a Pirates employee for some crap ass deal.
Just look to his peers if you want to know the man. When they ignore him, disparage him, dislike him…they have every reason to support him as his contributions help the team, but they don’t support him…that tells you what a poor human being he is, let alone a poor teammate. Rotten from his father, pampered by his employers, he’s a bad seed from his college days on. He’s a grown man and his daddy drives onto the field to threaten the manager? He’s a cancer on whatever team he’s associated with. Good riddance and yes, keep him out of the Hall Of Fame and toss out the other cheaters. Their statistics cannot be compared to those who didn’t cheat. Forever tainted…by his OWN actions. Lay in the bed you made, cheater.
Well I guess the Pirates were a bunch of A-holes then, right?
That's cus he was supposed to be a giant, the pirates underrated him and bobby bonilla, they were the killer bees and best players on the pirates..but Andy van slyke was getting paid more and treated like mr. Pittsburgh
Pirates suck anyway
Bonds was his own worst enemy. Burn your bridges behind you and you cannot get back.
I say no, but your arguments are completely valid. Great video and well written.
Also: the “C” in the word indicted is silent. 🤪
Yep. In dick-ted sounds perverted.
no no no
Greatest hitter in history? Probably Ted Williams.
Why isn't Bonds in the HOF? For the same reason Lance Armstrong officially has won zero Tours de France.
Williams didn't have 3000 hits never had 200 hits in a season and struck out about 2 times more than Dimaggio. Yet many people agree with you.
Explain Jeff Bagwell and Ivan Rodriguez being in the HoF.
Bagwell was the All-American white guy and the face of the franchise. How Ivan and Big Papi were able to fly under the radar for suspicious use of steroids remains a real head scratcher.
You know who really won the years Armstrong was disqualified '99-05'...........NOBODY !! BECAUSE 20/21 rider's who would of been top 3 we're WERE EITHER BUSTED BEFORE OR IN A SCANDAL,OR INVESTIGATION at the time. I don't feel it's cheating if 80% the field is using. I think the Lance Armstrong deal is b.s. ....in a combat sport I think drugs have no place at All. But if the majority of competition is doing it and this is how you feed your family. I could understand how and why they did it
People can say what they want about Bonds. I don't like him but The Man can hit anything, He has great hand eye coordination. Steroids don't make your eyes better. Live with it! He's the best. By the way I'm a Red Sox fan.
PED's create incredible strength which allows for much better bat control, bat speed, and much faster reaction to the pitch with the bat. Bonds and all the others put up all those remarkable numbers because of PED's. Are you dumb enough to think all the remarkable offensive numbers during the steroid era are just a coincedence? Are you dumb enough to think it's just a coincedence all those offensive numbers severly declined after testing began in 2007?
Except Nolan Ryan.
1000% correct 👍👍👍
Wish we could ask Hank Aaron, just learned today on mlb network that he didn’t like bonds the person not bonds the player. His character was completely opposite of his talent
Hank Aaron was Barry’s Godfather
Yeah right and that is why we dong a story on boring Hank Aaron, got you.. and he was not juiced up Yeah right... and Babe Ruth was a drunk and smoker - Your point
@@bnzstheboy6520 Hank Aaron boring? Maybe you should get half a brain to match the half you lost. This man was fearful of his life for the audacity of being good enough to break Babe's record.
And Babe himself was the greatest player who ever lived on hot dogs, alcohol, cigars, and women. If he'd had PEDs and the desire to train he'd have hit 2000 home runs.
@@AnthonyVlahovic that was willie mays
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It’s NOT boring Hank Aaron, it’s HAMMERIN’ Hank.
I heard somewhere that Barry Bonds apparently during annual spring training in Arizona (I think this was during his time with Giants), would go out of his way to avoid fan interactions.
So would I.
Funny enough the last spring training game I went to, Clemens did the same thing He was with the Asstros at the time. Berkman did his best to avoid all the fans as well. Pettitte however came over and talked with the fans and signed some stuff for some of the other kids there
@@zitofan4life you make an excellent point. Maybe baseball players are just like real people or something 🤔. Some folks (like me) get nervous when surrounded by people. Some are friendly. Some want to be left alone. Some need fans to feel good about themselves. Some don't.
Good, he owes us nothing.
Maybe fans should avoid interactions by not buying any tickets to the games.
I bet that it could cause an attitude adjustment.
I had a friend who was with a buddy of his when they came across Barry in public. They approached him politely, and each asked for an autograph. He signed one item and told them “now you guys decide which one gets it.” They both had items he could have signed but refused to sign both. Die hard Giants fan, but will forever remember poorly of Barry.
They lucky to have gotten 1. He didn't owe they ass shit
Because they were tryna collect on case in the future the ball be worth a lot
Why is Mike Schmidt on your list of steroid users? His career ended well before that era. Lumping him in with the others seems unfair.
Exactly, Mike Schmidt shouldn´t be mentioned.
If anything Schmits era was that of amphetamines and cocaine not steroids.
I'm not saying Schmidt did or didn't take steroids, but steroids in sports started in the 50's. Just because you never heard of it or knew anything about it doesn't mean it magically started when baseball juiced up the ball and players broke some homerun records. So no, his career definitely did not end before the era of steroids in baseball, pretty sure he played between 1955 and today.
@@craigjohnston5781 Yeah, you're wrong. If you're going to call greenies "steroids", then you're delusional. Pep pills are a far cry from the performance enhancing drugs that are available now.
@@ralphus44 I never once called greenies "steroids". Nor would I as that would be a demonstrably false statement. They are by definition a performance enhancing drug, but definitely not a steroid.
“Indicted” is pronounced “in-DIE-ted”.
Lol I noted that as well.
Lol... reading words you don't know from a script you didn't write is a youtube norm. 😆
thank u bro shit was eating up at my soul I was hoping someone caught that
You also have to remember that near the end of his career he left the MLB Players Union so he could profit from all of his merchandise sales and not have to just get a cut along with all the other current and retired MLB Players. This is why you did not see him in any video games near the end of his career and saw a player named Jim Dowd in his position on the Giants. MLB will get the last laugh. Personally I think he should be in because probably 60% of the league were on either HGH, Steroids or Greenies(x10 the strength of adderall)
Every once in a while being an asshole has consequences.
Not often enough in sports.
Totally agree with your assessment. He was the best hitter of a steroid filled era. The era should be the one with the asterisk! Let’s never go back to an MLB that throws players under the bus after turning a blind eye to something they knew about. Let Barry in or take the others out!
There doesn't need to be an asterisk for the players who juiced because all steroids do is increase strength and stamina. Yes stamina is a big deal because of the 162 game season but strength is not that important for being a great player. Steroids do not increase hand eye coordination which is everything in baseball. Proof Barry didn't need juice to be great. As a pirate before the juice he is still the only player who is in the 40/40 club 40 home runs and 40 stolen bases so all the steroids did was increase his strength which he already had and slowed him down. So in my opinion he became a more powerful hitter and a less productive base runner. Regardless his choice to use he's a hof'er no matter what
@@jt8038 the drugs also improves hand eye coordination ... steroids isn't the only thing he took ;-)
You're just naive about PEDs.
It's well known that HGH improves eye sight. It cures nearsightedness in some cases.
Runforpeace2020
Just took a quick look around the internet and it looks like you are correct in your assertion that HGH improves eyesight
@@jt8038 before steroids, already had hand eye coordination. Once he added power, he added unfair advantage. Some hr he hit with Giants would have been deep fly outs before he juiced.He may not be only player, but when you shatter records by cheating, you become focal point of era. Loved steroid era, but can't deny it harmed game. If baseball is too boring, don't watch. Hr are just one part of game.
They should have a special steroid hall without the HOF, sort of like chamber of horrors in wax museums 💉🧛♂️🧟♂️
Take time to also look up the stats for his father Bobby Bonds, who in 1973, came close to 40/40 (39 hrs. and 43 sbs)! A great player as well!
Excellent Point, Bobby Bonds was Awesome Also and was Muscular in Built Along with His Base Stealing and Home Run Power with Willie Mays, Willie McCovey and the San Francisco Giants.
i watched his dad play for the angels. a talented hitter and fielder with a troubled career, enter the son.
Apple does not fall far from the tree. Like father like son.
He's part of why baseball became unwatchable. There was a tradition, honor and humility in baseball before Bonds, Maguire and Canseco. Now guys flip bats and stand around admiring home runs. That's fine for people who want to go to a ballgame to watch the between innings scoreboard boat race, but for older fans, the former number one sport in America has become a joke.
Thank you! Haven’t watch this phony game in years and Bond as home run leader is a disgrace
It is the modern era, welcome from 1985 bud.
@@graysonbyass-rascoe4326 modern to you,dark ages to me
Ok boomer
Love the soft Star Wars st in the background
Aaron is the home run KING!
JOSH GIBSON IS THE THR HOMERUN KING
@@shabba3450 your absolutely right! I was thinking more along the lines of MLB BUT! The Negro Leagues was a major league, Josh Gibson is the HR King.
@@eddierivera1860 Yeah man. I read something not too long ago that said negro league records are now recognized by the MLB.
@@shabba3450 I'm really happy,its about time.
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According to the Negro Leagues, it was actually Mule Suttles.
Hank Aaron is still the true homerun king
True.. but we all do respect.. But ..Hank Aaron using Amphetamines.
Alot of those old players ruth included used some ped
@@dontrellmayfieldjr2868 he did one time before it was illegal and he said it made him sick 😆. He wasn’t an habitual user like Bonds hard to even compare
@@Moose1032 But still relevant.. Hank Aaron use Amphetamines. Babe Ruth is an alcoholic.. it's funny he use a cork bat once.
@@dontrellmayfieldjr2868 lol he corked his bat that’s crazy old school cheating 😆. Aaron said his teammate told him there was a pill that would help keep him away for the game he tried it got sick. In essence Aaron didn’t even know it was a drug and at that time wasn’t illegal, Bonds did know it was a PED plus it was illegal and he used it for years is the point I’m making. Aaron’s trying that pill 1 time had no effect on his records you can’t say the same about Bonds. That’s the only point I’m trying to make.
A super talent with character issues also see McGuire,Sosa,Rodriquez,Palmiero , Canseco to name a few . Babe Ruth , Henry Aaron and now Albert Pujols did it the right way .
He's A CHEAT! ENOUGH SAID!
Originally drafted by the San Francisco Giants in 1982 but opted out and waited till 1985 and was drafted again by the Pittsburgh Pirates. Eventually, he would be traded to his original team, the SF Giants.
Don’t believe he was traded. McGowan signed him as a free agent.
My favorite player by far. I remember seeing him many times as a kid and he was amazing in person.
Where do you get he was an amazing person from? He beat his wife, he threatened to cut his girlfriends breasts off, his teammates couldn't stand him, his coaches didn't like him. So just curious....where's the "amazing person".....
@@danimal097521 the focus was always his on the field effort. As a child why would I think about who he is off the field?
@@joshuacarter2928 Okay let's focus on the on the field effort....
He was known for half assing in left field. He was KNOWN for that as far back as his Pittsburgh days....
He fought his own teammate in the dugout to the point that they had to be pulled apart and separated....right for all the fans to see
And if you paid to see a game, don't even try to say anything to Bonds (much less get an autograph) there at the ballpark. He was much to important to bother. I saw this first hand at multiple games.
Just 2 examples that immediately come to mind. I'm not faulting you for being a fan. I defended the guy on the roids thing (it wasn't banned, so I don't think anyone should be punished for using pre-ban).....but I spent alot of time in SF during the Bonds days. He wasn't liked....but his own team's fans for the most part.
He was a fantastic player (even before roids)....but he was also an absolute prick. I couldn't care less about the steroids either way. He had no need to be that level of prick to teammates and fans. NONE.
@@danimal097521 I’m not reading this he’s the greatest ever
@@joshuacarter2928 bro don’t listen to him bonds is the greatest to ever play
Great players lead their teams to championships, they don't poison their environments
What's poisonous about separate parts of the clubhouse for entitled superstar divas?
Complete horse crap. Coaches lead teams. Players play. It's not "The Hall of Good Teammates".....
@@franram7426 - no not really. Jeter - all time Yankees hit leader. Not a day on roids!!! Now that is a TRUE Leader!!!!
Best mechanics in baseball. Watch his batting stance and motion towards the baseball but also watch how he approached the ball on D.....
What about Griffey….
Nah lol stop it,plenty of players with better mechanics,natural Barry is not even a top 10 player ever
@@Ninjersey1 natural Barry was a clearly better player than Griffey and anyone else who picked up a bat since atleast the 70s
@@MoneyMan6969 no the phuck he wasn’t you’re delusional lmao Griffey better on defense and offense before Barry transformed into a mutant 😂
@@MoneyMan6969 casual statement
If he does not have a great legacy he can thank himself for it. He self destructed.
Just Like How Ken Griffey Jr Self Destructed Baseballs When He Hits Them LOL
Bagwell was never mentioned in the Mitchell report for steroid use but I would assume he used them. He got pretty jacked too.
Can't assume. Only have to go off facts.
but, dont the facts show bonds never failed a drug test ?
Henry Aaron is the true homerun king. He didn't need anything to change his swing
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Absolutely right they all took steroids on purpose.
Except those little pills all players took back then sitting in a giant bowl in every clubhouse. Greenies
@@caligrinding8314 they took steroids on purpose it's their fault nobody else. Why does everyone think these guys don't have personal responsibility for anything. I could have taken drugs but I chose not to.
@@caligrinding8314 that was speed. It is overall bad for concentration and muscle control. Steroids help with injury recovery and muscle development, little different
Greatest player who ever lived .7 MVPs .No one close
He cheated... How do you feel knowing you rooted for a juiced up guy? He didn't just cheat the game he cheated the history books. He's not better than babe Ruth. He's a cheater and liar he should be serving prison time
Bonds has every possible accolade. Except a ring. And I think that perfectly sums up Barry.
So true.
Sums up his shit teams and opposition that capatilized.
Yep, because rings are for teams.
The Bambino has 7.
Babe Ruth also won the HR crown as a PITCHER.
Fun fact, the 1992 NLCS that the pirates lost ended on a close play at the plate. To Barry Bonds, who made a terrible throw.
Yep. According to Andy Van Slyke, who was playing center field in that game, he was told from the bench to tell Bonds to shade in in left and he refused. Had he been a yard further in, Sid Breem would have been out at the plate and that game would have gone to extra innings.
According to Van Slyke, when he told Bonds to move over, Bonds responded by giving him the... How did he word it... "International Peace Sign."
The middle finger, in other words.
Did he actually do this or is Van Slyke just throwing gas in the fire? I have no idea. Given what I know about Bonds' character, it would not surprise me if he did. But who knows?
Remember how they intentionally walked him a lot? Maybe because he wore a suit of armor on his right side and a pitcher couldn’t throw inside to brush him off the plate, plus everyone knew that he was roided up to the max.
That's Just an Excuse. They were Scared of Barry Bonds Bat, Stop it.
Dude thank you for taking your time on a video. Your contact is so good I hope to see more videos like this with some length👍🏻
Since Jose Canseco has been blackballed from baseball after he revealed that he and among others took steroids during their playing careers, I think should be fair that Barry Bonds and Mark McGwire, who would later admit steroids, and others should not be involved I baseball.
When did Barry admit he used steroids? 🤔
@@williammaheia3116 I was only referring to McGwire. However, Barry's only "admission" was that he claimed that he "unwillingly" took steroids.
Ok, he didn’t admit taking them. So lying about it makes it ok? Answer this: what workout machine makes your head bigger?
do not put Mark Mcgwire name with barry bonds dude
@@wilburt57 The "ego inflater" 😉
My last message. Barry Bonds has been and always will be a loser. He treated people like losers, so he is King Barry The Loser. That is what the title of this video should have been called.
Great player, even without steroids. If he doesnt get in, nobody from the steroid era should get in. If being a douchebag keeps you out, then he doesnt stand a chance.
There is a good chance he was probably on roids since the early 90s.
@@standepain lol he was 180lbs in the early 90s. How old are you?
@@PapaShongo25 How old are you? Lance Armstrong and Ben Johnson were 165 lbs and were both on roids and Johnson was juiced to the gills. Roids only make you big if you lift to get big. If you train for explosiveness and strength you'll look like a sprinter but still be strong as hell as well.
Barriod who could have been a great five tool hall of fame, instead he used steroids, was hated by teammates and alienated himself.
Jealousy, pride, and stubbornness caused his downfall. If he stayed clean and aged normally, people would be saying, "Imagine how good he would have been if he used steroids." That would put him in the GOAT discussion.
People often say that it's self-evidently stupid that MLB's greatest hitter and HR champ is not in the HOF. But they amazingly fail to recognize that his status as the GOAT is a complete sham. So this fact combined with his poor character completely justifies his exclusion in the Hall, and all but demands it.
Few people seem to realize that Bonds started lowkey becoming Super Barry in 1999, a year in which he missed the first two months due to having surgery on his left elbow/triceps tendon. Amazingly he came back alight, still finishing 34/83 power numbers. Bear in mind he is already 34 years old at this time.
At this time I could see he was suddenly better than he ever was and was impressed, but wasn't suspicious, seeing as Bonds did not hitherto have the physique of a typical steroid user. But he had just witnessed two inferior hitters, McGwire and Sosa, captivate the nation and 'resurrect the game' from the post-strike malaise or whatever people say.
Over the next two years following the 99 comeback, he quickly ascended towards the most astonishing offensive run in baseball history between 01 and 04.
What separated Bonds' career arc from most everyone else is that he reverted to putting up black ink numbers in his late 30s. As with everyone else, his 30s started out with a 5 year lull, where he was no longer leading the league in major offensive categories. It is basically unquestionable that without PEDs Bonds doesn't successively set career highs in HR in his mid 30s, and instead slowly or sharply declines a bit around the turn of the century. Depending on how sharply, it is conceivable, not least due to his attitude, that he flames out with the Giants and warrants a 'change of scenery' trade to resurrect his career, or simply fades into obscurity.
In other words the reason everyone considers Bonds the GOAT hitter, or least no worse than Babe Ruth (the two are tied in WAR) is that he used steroids to annihilate the natural decline of age. It is pretty clear that he started using steroids no later than '99 when he suddenly began hitting HR at a higher clip than ever immediately after having elbow surgery. That just doesn't happen. Without PEDs, Bonds isn't even remotely close to Babe Ruth.
This is why he's not in the HOF in spite of being 'the best hitter ever.' He's not in fact the best hitter ever, so the objection that his exclusion taints the HOF is completely daft and worthless. Had he never used PEDs at all - in other words, had he actually flamed out in his early 30s - he would have still been a run-of-the-mill HOF outfielder, but the ethical element really demands that he be punished.
We have been seeing a wide variety of cheating scandals since the 94 strike, and steroids began at least in the mid 80s with the Bash Brothers. Arod was juicing literally since high school, when he became a power hitter overnight. His career is likewise tainted, and the HOF is not tainted by ignoring his great numbers, just as with Bonds.
Consider the career arc of a similar freak talent like Mike Trout. You can already see Trout's black ink potential starting to sail away from him as he approaches age 30. He has recently had 2 years cut short due to injury in '21 and that absurd virus situation in '20. Based on historical precedent and the way the human body works, he's most probably done leading the league in OPS and the question of whether he is at last the GOAT ballplayer is up to his desire and work ethic, that is to say, whether he can approach in his 30s what he did in his 20s. If he starts using PEDs, it would be a fluke if he didn't.
So there you go. Stop respecting video game numbers that are complete and utter bull****.
Not a huge sports fan, but am in Atlanta. I consider he stole an irreplaceable trophy from a groundbreaking man of superlative character - Hank Aaron. Aaron endured what’s African Americans who made a way for Barry, indescribable racism & disrespect. But he carried himself with quiet dignity & a smile in times of celebration & greeting others. Barry had to have great talent to see & contact the ball as he did. However, his cheating stole more than extra cash or games. He actually stole a humble heroes incomparable historical honor. A kind of sports stolen valor. But one difference in this type of valor stealing, is that it’s not just raising oneself to an undeserved position, but it is also lowering the “valor” of others. In my mind, that can never be overlooked .
@@paulthomas5860 I remember Hank talking about how he couldn't even really enjoy his 715th HR because he thought someone would pop out and either knife or shoot him right there on the field, and to cheat and take the crown away from him? No, will never sit right and never should.
Barry was a great athlete before Balco. But Balco pushed him to a level that made him look exceptional. I'm glad that Barry didn't make the HoF mainly due to his PED use, but also his arrogance.
@@BST-lm4po clueless
@@at2130 - same thing with aroid!
7 MVP awards is insane, but Bonds should definitely have 1 more. In '91, Bonds finished 2nd in MVP to Terry Pendleton (who had a great year). Their basic stats were really similar in totals (HRs, runs, RBIs). Pendleton had a solid advantage in AVG, but he didn't even hit .320.
Bonds blew him away in SBs, walks, OBP. And Bonds won a GG while Pendleton didn't (though he was a good fielder). Pendleton wasn't even an all star that year.
Bonds lost that MVP for 2 reasons: First, he had won the previous year and that automatically gets your current performance discounted, and Second...people hated the guy. If you have to chose between a jerk and a nice guy (with everything else being equal) you'll kick the jerk to the curb.
I got to watch Barry in his prime almost every game. The dude is just different than any other player. Forget the juice/power. That man knew what pitch was coming every time. This is not an overstatement.
But didn't average 300 , and struck out too much .
He struck out 100 times once. Batted over .300 half of his 22 years and finished at .298
I wouldn’t say that’s striking out too many times and not hitting .300
He's not an anti-Hero, he's a villain.
If he retired instead of starting up on the juice, he would be in the hall right now.
I have never seen someone's dome grow like his did. Bonds is the poster boy for roids because he is the most obvious case of it.
So you're saying he was hall of fame worthy before even ALLEGEDLY juicing. Why tf would an already all time great start using steroids during the prime of his career? Because he didn't, legally it was found that he didn't. Believe what you want but every all time great has been accused of cheating, even when obviously false.
@@AntiContradiction There's no alleged to it. A man- normal man- doesn't grow muscles and his head doesn't expand 3 hat sizes in his late 30s like Barry Balco* did.
@@AntiContradiction - never ever heard of hank Aaron, Ken Griffy, and others ever juicing! I hope this POS NEVER sees the hof!!!
Totally agree. He should be in the HOF. Put an asterisk. Take a vote of when everyone thinks he juiced. Asterisk those years.
has a “broken” legacy yet holds all the post Ruth batting records and gets 65% of the hall of fame vote. still a legend in the eyes of 65% of the voters and a higher percentage of baseball fans. fth
I love you Barry Bonds..Your absolutely one of the best....
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Take away the roids does he get 755. Be honest
@@doublepoet7852 no shot. Honestly, because I watched him play…he would have been a first ballot hall of fame had he never touched juiced…BUT when S F built one of the biggest parks in mlb and with diminishing power into late 30s, a lot of them would have been warning track. He was an asshole too but that’s separate
@@NoNameNo.5 so we should say he was one of the best players but not the homerun king
Gee, it’s almost like if you treat people like garbage, they remember that! Barry’s woes are all self inflicted. Does he deserve to be in Cooperstown? Yes. Will the writers be the ones to vote him in? Not likely.
I met Barry once, randomly, at a driving range. He could not have been any nicer. I don’t know how he interacts with other people, but in my personal experience, he was first class.
Clearly, you caught him on a good day.
Barry Bonds created his own image. No matter what ever else he did, Sammy Sosa always looked happy and smiled a lot. Barry came across as angry and sullen
@@mstob1969 stop calling me “clearly”. 😉
Its not the Hall of Fame for people that get along with everyone. Its the Baseball Hall of Fame. Baseball has been notorious for having funny stuff happen since the beginning of the sport. You can hate him all you want. Bonds was the greatest Baseball player of his generation. The dude should be in. Clemens should be in and any other player from that generation that has the numbers.
He cheated
Babe Ruth hit his homeruns drunk and against greased baseballs.
There's No Telling what Ruth was Doing.
12:52 fun fact: barry bonds is actually in mlb the show 16 but was put under the name "reggie stocker" because of it
Reggie Stocker hit 756 homers.
I'm not even into baseball and I enjoyed this video. That's how you know it's good :) 😀
Greatest cheater ever😂. Forget the records...I watched him in a 5yr span go from a beanpole 150lb shrimp to his head being as big as a tire. Watching this told me call I needed to know to hate him and baseball for praising him. You guys are delusional if you think hes the greatest athele of anytime. The guy was a jerk which he learned from his dad and he cheated..Glad hes been blackballed from baseball but why is A-roid I mean A-rod accepted. He was a jerk and a cheater too
That "beanpole" was neck and neck with Jr. competeting go be the greatest player alive. We in Seattle knew the only reason Grif didn't take steroids was that he was too lazy to lift weights.
I agree with you. These people who disagree have a lack of character and do not know it since they were brought up without morals. Only a person who has been around long enough to see the generations change with morals (right and wrong) can know that. This is just a microcosm of what goes on in nearly every venue of life in order to win at all cost. Thank you for speaking the truth. P.S. Hank Aaron who did not cheat and was treated poorly by a lot of racist fans, had more class in his little finger than Bonds had in his whole body!!!!!!
Bonds Sosa and McGuire was some of the best baseball I watched. A lot of people used steroids but couldn’t do what they did
Even Yankees fans hate A-rod. The only thing propping him up at this point is the media and the players union
5 years? You're a clown. He gave up on stealing bases, and went from 215 in 1998 to 235 in 2000. The 1-2 dozen doubles off the wall became home runs.
He was a jerk though, so much so that people assume he cheated without a single failed test. Even a multi year FBI inquiry never found evidence of steroid use, and he was acquitted of perjury. The guilty charge was on Obstruction, and so ridiculously frivolous, it was thrown out on appeal.
I’m a dodger fan and I still think he should be in the hall of fame. His stats are better than most peoples road to the show character
Still can't believe 5'11 ,170 lb chain smoking Rodger Maris hit 61 HR's *MLB RECORD* in a season.. 141 RBI's .. If Rodger was juiced up like Bonds was there is absolutely no doubt he would have hit 80 in 1961 .
I think Babe Ruth is #1 because he was also a great pitcher and if he didn’t pitch he’d have 800+ home runs but Bonds is obvious #2 and definitely hof
Ruth only played against half the competition due to segregation.
The problem with that philosophy is that it is significantly harder to be a good position player and a good pitcher combined in the modern era of baseball as opposed to when Ruth did it. There is a reason why Shohei Ohtani is such a savant of baseball. He is doing what just about nobody has been able to do in the last 80+ years.
I completely agree he still had higher ops and slugging even after bonds crazy 2000s where he should’ve been declining not putting up 1300 ops
Babe Ruth the goat. But I don’t think he’ll put up the numbers in today’s baseball opposed to his historic numbers put up in the 20’s and 30’s. He will still be very good just not as dominant
He pitched for like 3 years
Rodger Clemens, Jose conseco, Alex Rodriguez, Sammy Sosa, David Ortiz and a lot of other players used roids, but didn't get scrutiny like Bonds did
This is equivalent to not putting Tom Brady in the hall of fame for cheating. Both are insanely absurd
Tru but Berry bonds is not the goat and Brady’s cheating didn’t even enhance his stats it just got him a Super Bowl win
Odd comparison. Brady's 'cheating' is extremely insignificant compared to the extent to which Bonds roided up for all those years.
Put Barry in the HoF, fine I can see that. Just as long as there's always a giant asterisk next to his name every single time it's printed to differentiate his dirty career from much cleaner HoF players.
Brady has since been vindicated
I would love to see Barry Bonds crowding the plate against Bob Gibson.
Or Early Wynn.
@@rentslave Don Drysdale also.
He didn't fare well against Nolan Ryan.
Bob Gibson........he would have made Bonds his little bitch.
He’s the single season home run king. These baseball writers are sad and pathetic. I could care less what they think and about their personal dislikes for the man. Barry binds cannot be denied.
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Barry Bonds was outwardly arrogant - but realize that some of the most beloved players were just as awful, but covered it up better. Pete Rose, Keith Hernandez, Steve Garvey fooled a lot of people to be celebrated as oh, such good guys.
I grew up around Pete Rose and saw him in social situations a lot. I don't think he realized how much of a dick he really was, but believe me, he was a total dick.
Keith Hernandez has not done anything that would be very alarming
I saw Keith Hernandez at a grocery store in Los Angeles a few years back. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything. He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?” I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
Hernandez at least has mellowed in recent years tho for what its worth. 🤷🏾♂️
My cousin played in the majors for the Giants for 4 seasons before getting an arm injury which caused him to pack it in at age 26. I won't mention his name but it was a well known fact that if players then did not use performance enhancing drugs then you would lose any competitive edge you had. As simple as that. The only difference is that they focused on the most popular players and not the everyday average ones. You still need to be able to see & hit the ball ... drugs or not.
What a concept, living with consequences.
Cheaters don't get into hall of fame.
Unfortunately they actually do
What's amazing is all those accolades you named, you still missed that he had a 30/50 season, a 40/40 season, is the only player in MLB history to hit 400 HR and steal 400 bases (did all this before roids)... and THEN as if that wasn't enough is the only 500/500 player on top of that. The dude doesn't just belong in the Hall of Fame, he defines what the Hall of Fame should be. It's the Hall of FAME, not the Hall of LIKEABILITY.
Pete Rose should be in the HoF too, btw. These "rules" need to be abolished. There are pricks and cheaters that are in the HoF already, so what are they even protecting? Smh.
No it’s the Hall of Fame not the Hall of Juicers. None of his accomplishments are valid because they were aided with performance enhancing drugs. It’s not about him being a dirtbag it’s about him being a cheater.
Barry Bonds As a hitting coach” so you put this needle right here and presto big league”
ruth did it on hot dogs and beer
And on facing pitchers that threw 70-80mph. Back then pitchers threw 200+ pitches a game and they pitched every other day. If you look at most of the pitchers stats they had more BBs then Ks. Just in the past 5 yrs the avg FB has gone up 5mph just think how much it's gone up since 1930s lol. Babe Ruth wouldn't be near as good today as he was then.
@@jayboley9683 ruth still did it on hot dogs and beer bonds did it on roids
@@greysongaming0845 still waiting for a positive test on that. Roids don't give you hand eye coordination and that's what you need to hit a ball. He had power since college days so that's already known he has always had. His last yr playing while being tested every week put up better numbers then at 42yrs old then Harper in his prime MVP numbers last yr. Ruth is nothing but a softball player in today's age.
@@jayboley9683 Why, since you're so adamant on this "no proof" bullshit, do you think his head grew and he went from a declining player to a monster at the age he should have been declining far more sharply?
And since you want to belittle Babe Ruth, how about the fact that the fences were farther back in his day and the ball was harder to hit long distances?
@@jayboley9683It’s not fair to compare eras. The only fair way to judge them is by their time period.
If Barry had retired before he broke Hank Aaron's homerun
record I would have some respect for him. As it is now...none.
I don't know who to believe. On the one hand, you have a woman who was zero physical threat to Barry. On the other hand, you have a guy who's injecting rage virus directly into his brainstem, an inability to control his anger in public, and the moral character to throw his teammates under the bus after he was caught cheating. I'd say it's probably 50/50.
The guy did more steroid cycles than a Maytag washing machine ! Will only be know as the steroid king not the HR king what a shame .
U sound foolish steroids doesn't help u hit home run's hand and eye coronation dose
Your mom is also known as the "sausage queen" and people still love and respect the whale.
Mark should not either then
Bonds and A-rod have hurt the record books everytime pujols adds to his legacy his name is put next to theirs. A place neither belongs Albert has always done it the natural way
Albert was on the juice too my friend look it up
@@caligrinding8314 Of course he was , him and Mcguire were birds of a feather
Lol, Pujols has roids leaking out of his ears!!!
There are more important things in life than being inducted into the hall of fame. How about just being a halfway decent human being.
He is a decent human being people are just mad because he did everything better than everyone else
@Steve Onice I'm not a Giants fan I'm a Yankees fan but Barry Bonds was the greatest player ever
@Steve Onice you cannot over look what he did his numbers were off the chart he's a 7x league MVP
@Steve Onice every player has used them from Ty Cobb to Hank Aaron to A Rod to Babe Ruth so kid you have NO argument
@Steve Onice Babe Ruth used steroids all athletes use them why can't you get that through your liberal brain every baseball player has to use them
Thank you for naming the other ped users. It irratates me when MLB talks about the hard work they put in, but then villify guys like Barry. Makes absolutely no sense.
Screw all the cheats but those guys admitted to it unlike bonds who still lies to this day
@@Ninjersey1 So being a cheater, but confessing years after the fact, makes it okay with you???? That's some special logic you've got there.😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😆😆😆😆😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
@@lesliesmith1797 better then still lying to this day like he was natural lol what a joke.Guy transformed into Luke Cage 😂
@@Ninjersey1 facts! I’m sick of hearing gotta let Bonds in but not the other roid users! He is a lying piece of crap, we all know he used.
@@oneofmanyte3321 many other roid users ARE in...go check
Bonds was amazing in that World Series. He got on base 21 times in 30 plate appearances with 4 HR in 17 at bats. Such a shame that they blew that game 6 lead.
That's what roids will do!!!
and damn imagine how good the braves would have been with bonds in the 90s
They would have been worse because he would have destroyed them.
Character,integrity thing’s like that mean a lot. He’s not the only guy who’s lacking in that category but it seems to overshadowed his accomplishments in baseball. Following the golden rule is best no matter if you’re a baseball great or a regular person. If he ever meets Jesus he’ll be a different person.
what does being a nice guy have to do with entertaining the HOF when credentials are meet.
Derek Jeter didn’t have the most ability, but the man’s leadership anchored the greatest dynasty I got to see. Meanwhile, Bonds had all the stats, all the tools, and couldn’t be on a World Series winning team because he couldn’t lead. I’ll take a Derek Jeter a million times over a Barry Bonds, Bryce Harper, or Manny Machado even. Winning requires intangibles and raw talent and stats is not the end all be all.
Barry Bonds "owning up to it" means very little when you consider that, before doing so, he had nothing more to lose in the baseball world. He himself said he felt like he had a "death sentence," so if you continue that metaphor, it's a guy on death row admitting to doing it since he's doomed anyway and is just looking for mercy.
Astros still have their WS title even after it was proven they had cheated. So I see no reason as to why Bonds shouldn’t be in the Hall and Pete Rose unbanned from baseball
Good point
Ted Williams would like a word about batting and not taking steroids
Actually a very informative video. I for one still think Bond's body armor helped him more than Balco. Bonds was using body armor prior, but got approved in 2001 by mlb by medical clearance to use a higher grade of armor. MLB only granted this to a few players, mostly star players.
Hell--" Is getting injured by a 100 mph pitch part of game of baseball". Sounds stupid to me.
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The point is... It should be allowed for everybody...or no one at all.
I was wondering why all players were not doing that.
Bonds is my favorite athlete of all time but that elbow shield was massive hahahah looked like a robot arm..
Biggest cheater in baseball history! Aaron is the true homerun king! F@@k bonds!
Like Maguire and Sosa, had great hands and timing. His power only came after he started using major steroids.
He is not hated by baseball, he is a hitting coach,
Say what you will about BB… growing up in SF.. having him play in our city… we loved it!!
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