he is none the less a monster. just like annakin who did great evil for love so did bode. he sold out everyone for his little girl and then even when she pleaded him to stop he wouldnt.
@@donpula6349Well he's trying to hold back full rage since he doesn't want to completely fall into the dark, and since Kata is there, he doesn't want to scar her blindly.
Actually, cal seems to understand but also is massively is disappointed in him. Bode was his best friend, so he wants to hear him out, but nothing will make Cal forgive him, and cal knows he is still using him even in that moment for his goal. He doesn’t want to kill him. He wants to give him another chance, but bode decides in the end that cal can’t better him. He made his choice.
Not going to lie, I like Bode better as an antagonist. He was fun as a companion but his love for his daughter turning him to the dark side is a fun rehash of Anakin’s fall. After losing his wife the thought of losing his daughter was too painful… if you’ve ever lost a loved one or had a child that will hit very hard.
I genuinely did not see that twist coming, and it does make you think. Even if Padme survived and he got to raise his kids, Anakin's family and attachments could've potentially still lead him to be exploited and turned to the dark side!
... That's why the concept of "No spouse, no children, no attachments" was reinforced in the Old Republic. It just made Jedi easier to fall to the Dark Side to protect everyone they love, even when it burned everything around them. Though, a couple of Sith got it right, and died of old age surrounded by the ones the love.
@@lumberluc But the constraints of forbidding personal relationships can also cause Jedi to fall to the dark side and turn that hate towards the order. That's why Luke encourages his new Jedi Order that it was ok to fall in love, get married, and start families (at least in the old Legends continuity, not sure about the current Canon). At the end of the day, Luke believed that if someone fell to the dark side, the Jedi just need to be willing enough to guide that person back to the side of the Force.
Man bode calling cal his best friend is just so powerful, it sounds like he really means it, and after finishing the game it just sad to hear him say "we had a fight, but we'll get things settled"
Exactly, Both being Jedi survivors they were like brothers even though Cal never knew. Best friends because they belonged to the same tribe and grew up together. It's so genuine when he says it because he means it. Cal is his best friend. A fellow Jedi in hiding who he can relate to. The Jedi Survivor being Bode not Cal is stunning. What a great game.
Bode used to be a good man and Jedi but after his wife died, he became blinded by the dark side. The Jedi Order weren’t completely wrong about forming attachments but it’s the way people form attachments that matters instead of just blocking off all attachments. Anyone agree?
The EU of Star Wars novels dealt with this very thing. Luke Skywalker used his positive emotion of love for Mara Jade to give him strength and power. But Luke also made it clear to his students that forming those kind of attachments create "pressure points" that the Dark Side can use. So he taught balance: using the positive emotions of love to move one to act selflessly and with focus, but also not giving into anger or hate when those you love get taken away from you. Bode did not master that last point, obviously
Cals rage is .... actually kinda scary. The fact he just zips about. Hacking enemies to bits. And the fact he just force chokes the officer in a unhinged state of anger...i dont know if its just me but when i saw this scene i got chills
After that I switched my saber to Purple( I was rocking Sentinel Yellow for most of the game) because I felt the change, we were not Light anymore, but we weren’t dark either, we were the middle, the balance
Guys, I wanted to share something I just discovered. Let’s see in Canon there are 3 classes of Jedi, Consular, Guardian and Sentinel. I consider the sentinel as the “Jedi detectives or agents” because they were sent to gather intel, assassinations, cover investigations, destroy underworld criminal cells, etc. They were as powerful in combat as a Guardian an as powerful in the force as a Consular, and since they covered up secret missions, they needed to be stealthy and hide their force powers to others and they didn’t use the traditional Jedi robes instead they dressed like normal civilians…. Bode mentions that the Council sent him and others to gather intelligence and that he used the skills he learned to survive, and he hide its powers from Cal, which is a complicated Skill since normally others force user would sense another one, Palpatine used it during the republic years to remain hidden from all those Jedi. Was Bode probably a Jedi Sentinel? It’s a concept that we haven’t seen in Canon and I would love to see more of this Jedi Class.
Basically Consulars are force oriented, guardians are lightsaber(and fight) oriented. And Sentinels rely on skills(and mix of both Consular+Guardian but very good at none)
Sentinels are a middle path with strong force and saber skills. But, their uniqueness is the usage of skills outside the order, that and their mission set being more unorthodox. So yes, he most definitely fits the jedi Sentinel mold. Personally I was kinda hoping he was a jedi shadow since he says he worked in gathering intelligence and used his skills to disappear.
Bode really was like anakin in so many ways. Willing to betray and take out anyone for the ones he cared about. The cal and bode fight made me see a little bit of that obi wan vs anakin banter on mustafar. It really was a shame. I liked bode. Seemed like a cool character but damn it got pretty intense in the end of the game. I liked that high republic character a lot more. But they kinda just threw him aside rather quickly. But hey this story was wild. The empire may have been on the sidelines this game but the biggest thing we all learned from this game is to stay true to yourself. And to understand what’s really important.
I would’ve liked to have seen more of Dagan because he was extremely awesome but he got plenty of screen time and 3 boss fights. The Bode twist was awesome and set the game up for a great final act.
I don't know about you... but if I was a stormtrooper and witnessed a jedi striking down like 20 other stormtroopers and officers in the span of like half a second... my response would be to drop my gun and be like "Nope. We're cool. You don't need to kill me. I don't even wanna kill you anyway. I want all of none of this. Bye." My response would definitely not be to charge in, thinking "Yeah, I can take that." Also, father of the year award goes to "Why stay with the good guys and save my daughter, when I could instead save my daughter by sacrificing thousands of innocent people?"
OK I need you to look at this in a narrative point because to him the empire was unbeatable he would not risk his daughter being put in the line of fire if it meant losing her. He doesn’t even wanna be a part of this conflict because his loyalties lie with family.
It’s more of “why stay with the good guys that MAY give me a chance of saving my daughter, when I COULD instead save my daughter by sacrificing thousands of innocent people?”
What I like about it, is the fact that it brings a lot more nuance to the dark side of the force, which is rarely ever explored because most users wind up being completely corrupted by it and the intense feedback loop of emotions. It's not the use of dark side force that's bad, but actively acting on the dark and evil desires that are reinforced by its use, which winds up corrupting you. Makes me wonder if Cal would start learning to dip into some dark side force in the 3rd game, but channeling it in a controlled and disciplined way, kinda like an even more badass version of Mace Windu.
@@emosgowoof I’ve always kinda thought that too. Starkiller used the dark side but was obviously serving the light, at the end of the game at least. Not canon anymore, I know.
@@bradkeen9760 it isn’t, but it is still the dark side. There’s a reason that Sidious felt the need to wipe the nightsisters out(yes, in the son of Dathomir comic, he saw Mother Talzin as a threat to his power and an equal in terms of dark side). So they do use the darkside, and they are all force sensitive, they just don’t practice the ideology of the Sith.
I understand why Bode’s scared of losing his daughter, but everything he did was out of fear, not love. He was willing to let thousands, if not millions, suffer from the Empire just so he can escape
No not true. Im adult and not understanding him a bit. If he wants to to good for his daughter he choose a very wrong path. He could have been honest to cal, especially because the empire killed his wife. No he plays both sides. He is just a selfisch asshole. If he had any morals he would have choosen cals side and be honest to him. That would also fullfill his goal to keep his daughter safe. And kata would still have a dad. "Understanding" comes not from growing up. There is nothing to understand in the first place.
I love that Cal's self righteousness is his biggest weakness. He's constantly judging the actions of others without considering their unique situation, and it's delivered not as some heroic trait but as something he needs to work on
to be fair with Cal, it’s not really his fault, he was pretty much raised by people who were so devoided of any kind of emotional attachment they had little to no empathy for others and were strict about that rule to the point of dogmatism plus he wasn’t really wrong about Bode
I mean, Bode used him all along, manipulated him, got Cere and Cordova killed (the last one in cold blood), and did not give a flying fuck about giving the entire Hidden Path list (full of innocents fleeing the Empire) to Darth Vader. Cal is entirely right - though Bode's motives are understandable, his actions are monstruous. He basically has no qualms killing and throwing under the bus thousands of people, including those who belonged to his family of Jedi, just to protect his own daughter.
I just realized there's a couple tells that Bode was a jedi throughout the story, while they are about to leave Coruscant, Cal says "Bode, may the force be with you." And it stunlocks Bode for a moment cus that's a saying he probably hasn't heard in a long time.
Anyone else notice that its cute his daughter has a little backpack, because her dad is always wearing a little jetpack and she wants to emulate him. Ive never noticed but its a nice detail. We look up to our parents so much. She wants a little backpack like her dad. Great game. Bode was a real highlight in the final act.
“This is my best friend.” Despite the horrible shit he’d done - ratting Cere and the Anchorites/the Path out the Empire, killing Cordova - you could tell he meant every word of it. That said… he had to go. Innocent people died during the battle for Jedha. In trying to save Kata, Bode sort of became Anakin - losing himself to the dark side, putting that one single attachment over the lives of many others.
A best friend doesnt Stab you in the back, rattling you out to your arch Enemy leading to many deaths including your Master and teacher, work against you, killing your rather Figure, Tries to Kill you and your friends. And he doesnt even show one tony piece of regret. This is not what a best friend does. Your actions have more weight than your words. And Bode is delusional. He gets whats coming for him
@@hel7695 hey, I agree with you. I said Bode lost himself. He did mean every word and still considered Cal his best friend, I think - which shows he lost his marbles, because if Bode actually knew Cal, he’d know the latter would never forgive him for this betrayal.
@@isaiahgeorge906 normie take. Game is amazing held back by performance issues. Gameplay is amazing and so is the story. It’s gonna sell regardless. We’re getting a trilogy.
Well, Obi-Wan did send out a distress beacon to warn all the remaining Jedi to do whatever it takes to survive when he and Yoda stormed the Jedi temple. Looks like it worked a lot better than people gave him credit for. Also, the Galaxy is ginormous.
When Cal embraced the dark side, I embraced the dark side. This game did such an incredible job of relaying anger and betrayal to the player. I feel heartbroken and betrayed now that the game is over.
4:20: Your actions are no excuse for what you did, Bode. If you had seen how many families that were being protected by the Hidden Path, you would understand that all of us, Jedi survivors and Force-Sensitive families and their friends, were in danger of being captured, tortured and murdered by the Empire. You were going to sacrifice thousands of innocent lives just to save one. Your daughter would never approve of what you had done. You betrayed everything the Order stood for, Cere Junda and Eno Cordova are gone because of you. And like Dagan Gera and Taron Malicos…you, Bode Akuna, you are no Jedi.
Honestly, Bode was straight up a mouth breather. He could have explained his backstory to Cal and then they could have rescued his daughter together, but nope he just had to snitch them to the Empire and result in the death of thousand innocent. I know he was played as a tragic character but I just cant feel sorry for him after this
Yeah, I feel sorry only for his daughter. Her father wanted her to live her life alone on isolated planet. If that's not domestic violence I don't know what it is
I think this was essentially was turned Bode's crystal red. He became more and more paranoid about losing his daughter until eventually just falling to the Dark Side.
It wasn't about rescuing Kata it was about keeping her hidden. Bode knows there's no fighting the Empire, in the long run they'll win eventually. He needed Tanalor and he needed as little people to know about it as possible, he was fine with the idea of Cal and his family joining but The Hidden Path was a giant risk to Kata's safety.
Cal shows here a very high degree of empathy, speaking to and trying to understand the view of somebody who just killed Master Cordoba and betrayed the whole crew which resulted to Ceres death....He also respects the little girl and the father-daughter relationship and tries not to escalate the situation while remaining totally honest. What a human being....Somebody else would definitely use the situation in his favor and take the little girl as hostage in order to get the compass back.
Hmm, nice touch on the Dark Side and its effects. You could feel how he could use more juice but also see him getting drained of his sanity (becoming more violent) as well.
This part in the game kind of turned Cal into more star killer I like it. It’s interesting how he uses the dark side of the force yet doesn’t fall to it… well almost does until Merrin brings him back.
This gives me Kill Bill vibes. Anyone else? When The Bride meets Bill but her daughter is present so they cannot kill each other. What a great scene developing Bode.
Since both of the games' stories are so good, I just have a bad feeling about the show they are going to do with Cal. I think they are definitely going to mess it up, or even ruin the background setup, and make the third game becomes very weird.
Basically, Bode believed giving Tanalorr to the Hidden path would make them vulnerable still. He either thought it would make them a bigger target or could invite spies to give it away and then it wouldnt be safe.
When she said “well I have to finish packing I can’t find my Mookie doll” I thought Cal was gonna help her find it and then pull a blaster on him lol. I don’t trust nothing that comes from Bode.
I understand bode situation. I would've burn the whole world to the ground if my wife life been taken away from me and i would do anything to keep my family safe, but it didn't justify what he did to the other people. You can always find a choice no matter the situation.
@@hel7695 that not what i meant. I would do anything to keep my family safe but i didn't said i would work for my enemy just to keep my family safe. Like i've said his action does not justify his reason. There are always choice you can make. I also don't understand how bode can work for the enemies that killed his wife.
@@magiclee8256 then allow me to give a quote given to someone who's family had in fact been murdered by an evil genocidal maniac: "Everybody's got dead people! That's no excuse to get everybody else dead along the way!"
I shattered much like Cal. All our hard work in helping people, gathering remnants of the Archives, trying to restore the Jedi Order, lost..........BECAUSE OF HIM!!!!!! Master Cordova, Cere, two of the last remaining Jedi in the galaxy, MURDERED, at his hand!
@@JohnG44 not exactly the order was implemented wouldn’t wouldn’t be used until Palpatine found his perfect apprentice. Because he wouldn’t risk a specimen, a potential apprentice, if you will to be killed.
@Sinful Adam nope that order was not waiting for anakin to turn it was waiting until all the jedi were far from coruscant if anakin hadn't turn it woundlt matter he would had been executed as well
While I don’t like Bode’s choice and all, I understand that you must be willing to save your family at any cost. Even if it means sacrificing yourself in the process.
It's one thing to sacrifice yourself, and another entirely to sacrifice thousands of innocent people who didn't ask for any of it and also have families of their own
One complaint with this game... They needed to leave either Bode or Dagan alive to eventually join us. Seems like a waste to off them both after one go.
Honestly do wish that they did more with Dagan. Him even seeing Tanalorr again, even if one last time as a good guy on the Mantis crew, would have been a nice conclusion to his arc. If they still had to kill him then at least make him die during Bode’s fight or something. That’s a complaint I share with you, but besides that I do like the game and story.
I think they're doing the best they can with the premise. The whole point of the Jedi series is that there's not a lot of them left. Having an entire crew of active Jedi sort of downplays why Luke is so important.
If Cal submits Bode’s idea of forgoing all the past, forget about salvation, He can start a new life with Merlin and his friends, live peacefully in Tantalorr.
I just don’t get it. Why Bode just didn’t ask Cal to help him right After they killed Dagan and get compass. Like. “Cal. Bud. We get your Compass back. Cordova gonna fix it. While he doing that Can you please help me to save my daughter and bring her to archives instead of fighting this 2 giant frogs over and over. It’s really important. Thank you” Happy End
Acting in this scene was out of control. Goddamn......... puts anything in Hollyweird to shame. Bode actor especially should be at least nominated for best actor or supporting actor for the video game awards, amazing performance.
At this point, it’s just sad! Cal has the power to survive from a lot empire attacks. But the people he call friends won’t be that lucky . They go on missions with him then die from the mission . What is the point to “save” the universe when the consequence is sacrificing the love ones .
“Your a monster Bode.”
“No, I’m a father.”
That’s a tough line.
It's rings true though. Love is a double edge sword. Many great things can come from it, but also, many dark things can as well.
@@S1D3W1ND3R015 Love can lead one to good, but also to evil. Love can both save or condemn, pretty much.
very similar to Joel in Last of Us
Man I hate bode for betraying Cal but man at the same time I can’t blame him.
he is none the less a monster. just like annakin who did great evil for love so did bode. he sold out everyone for his little girl and then even when she pleaded him to stop he wouldnt.
Cal has killed more surviving Jedi than all the inquisitors combined
It’s not like they gave him a choice
@@joshuawillis602
Talos Malicos
Dagren Gera
Bode Akuna
All turned on Cal
@@metal_fusion There was also Trilla, The Second Sister, and Masana Tide, the Ninth Sister [Both of which were Formerly Jedi]
It's kind of cool how the entire theme of the games is just how monstrous the Jedi can become in the name of survival.
Well most have fallen to the dark side
Cal looked like he was holding back so much murderous intent while Bode was explaining his past.
It was like watching a spy plea his innocence as you know he'll sell everyone out for his own skin
He is holding back because Cal doesn’t want Kata to lose her innocence.
"He's using the girl as a shield...THIS IS LOW, EVEN FOR YOU!!"
@@donpula6349Well he's trying to hold back full rage since he doesn't want to completely fall into the dark, and since Kata is there, he doesn't want to scar her blindly.
Actually, cal seems to understand but also is massively is disappointed in him. Bode was his best friend, so he wants to hear him out, but nothing will make Cal forgive him, and cal knows he is still using him even in that moment for his goal. He doesn’t want to kill him. He wants to give him another chance, but bode decides in the end that cal can’t better him. He made his choice.
Not going to lie, I like Bode better as an antagonist. He was fun as a companion but his love for his daughter turning him to the dark side is a fun rehash of Anakin’s fall. After losing his wife the thought of losing his daughter was too painful… if you’ve ever lost a loved one or had a child that will hit very hard.
I genuinely did not see that twist coming, and it does make you think. Even if Padme survived and he got to raise his kids, Anakin's family and attachments could've potentially still lead him to be exploited and turned to the dark side!
Mad at the end he fell so much into the dark side by the final his action put her in direct danger several times to save himself and her.
Bode nearly killed her daughter several times, Cal pretty much saved her at least once.
... That's why the concept of "No spouse, no children, no attachments" was reinforced in the Old Republic.
It just made Jedi easier to fall to the Dark Side to protect everyone they love, even when it burned everything around them.
Though, a couple of Sith got it right, and died of old age surrounded by the ones the love.
@@lumberluc But the constraints of forbidding personal relationships can also cause Jedi to fall to the dark side and turn that hate towards the order. That's why Luke encourages his new Jedi Order that it was ok to fall in love, get married, and start families (at least in the old Legends continuity, not sure about the current Canon). At the end of the day, Luke believed that if someone fell to the dark side, the Jedi just need to be willing enough to guide that person back to the side of the Force.
Man bode calling cal his best friend is just so powerful, it sounds like he really means it, and after finishing the game it just sad to hear him say "we had a fight, but we'll get things settled"
Exactly, Both being Jedi survivors they were like brothers even though Cal never knew. Best friends because they belonged to the same tribe and grew up together. It's so genuine when he says it because he means it. Cal is his best friend. A fellow Jedi in hiding who he can relate to. The Jedi Survivor being Bode not Cal is stunning. What a great game.
Sad thing is he does. He’s trying to survive too. But to say Bode went about it the wrong way is an understatement.
Literally the only time I felt remotely sorry for this asshole.
its sad that the majority of enemies cal has faced are all fallen jedi, most of them were just "survivors" of tragic situations
Bode used to be a good man and Jedi but after his wife died, he became blinded by the dark side. The Jedi Order weren’t completely wrong about forming attachments but it’s the way people form attachments that matters instead of just blocking off all attachments. Anyone agree?
It is the choices we put into actions that define us. I agree with you 100%
The EU of Star Wars novels dealt with this very thing. Luke Skywalker used his positive emotion of love for Mara Jade to give him strength and power. But Luke also made it clear to his students that forming those kind of attachments create "pressure points" that the Dark Side can use. So he taught balance: using the positive emotions of love to move one to act selflessly and with focus, but also not giving into anger or hate when those you love get taken away from you. Bode did not master that last point, obviously
Jolee Bindo says it best of how love would save and redeem someone not condemn them.
I agree.😔
@@dandewizzle2479 That’s why I miss EU Luke because his canon counterpart let history repeat itself and he later became a hermit
Cals rage is .... actually kinda scary.
The fact he just zips about. Hacking enemies to bits. And the fact he just force chokes the officer in a unhinged state of anger...i dont know if its just me but when i saw this scene i got chills
God help Denvik if Merrin wasn't there
That is what happens when you push a Jedi too far.
After that I switched my saber to Purple( I was rocking Sentinel Yellow for most of the game) because I felt the change, we were not Light anymore, but we weren’t dark either, we were the middle, the balance
That line, "This is my best friend... We had a fight, but we'll get things settled." it really sounded like he meant it, that hurt me, man...
Who’s here after Bode’s actor, Noshir Dalal, shared some cool insights about this scene on Twitter
Guys, I wanted to share something I just discovered. Let’s see in Canon there are 3 classes of Jedi, Consular, Guardian and Sentinel. I consider the sentinel as the “Jedi detectives or agents” because they were sent to gather intel, assassinations, cover investigations, destroy underworld criminal cells, etc. They were as powerful in combat as a Guardian an as powerful in the force as a Consular, and since they covered up secret missions, they needed to be stealthy and hide their force powers to others and they didn’t use the traditional Jedi robes instead they dressed like normal civilians….
Bode mentions that the Council sent him and others to gather intelligence and that he used the skills he learned to survive, and he hide its powers from Cal, which is a complicated Skill since normally others force user would sense another one, Palpatine used it during the republic years to remain hidden from all those Jedi.
Was Bode probably a Jedi Sentinel? It’s a concept that we haven’t seen in Canon and I would love to see more of this Jedi Class.
i think quinlan voss was similar to bode
Basically Consulars are force oriented, guardians are lightsaber(and fight) oriented.
And Sentinels rely on skills(and mix of both Consular+Guardian but very good at none)
Sentinels are a middle path with strong force and saber skills. But, their uniqueness is the usage of skills outside the order, that and their mission set being more unorthodox.
So yes, he most definitely fits the jedi Sentinel mold. Personally I was kinda hoping he was a jedi shadow since he says he worked in gathering intelligence and used his skills to disappear.
And the Classes in Legends?
@@mrbanditos3583 you played kotor ay?
This scene is beautiful it’s insane how much they improved from the first game
Bode really was like anakin in so many ways. Willing to betray and take out anyone for the ones he cared about. The cal and bode fight made me see a little bit of that obi wan vs anakin banter on mustafar. It really was a shame. I liked bode. Seemed like a cool character but damn it got pretty intense in the end of the game. I liked that high republic character a lot more. But they kinda just threw him aside rather quickly. But hey this story was wild. The empire may have been on the sidelines this game but the biggest thing we all learned from this game is to stay true to yourself. And to understand what’s really important.
That part in the final fight where they grab each others arms holding the lightsaber definitely gave me Obi-wan vs Anakin flashbacks
I would’ve liked to have seen more of Dagan because he was extremely awesome but he got plenty of screen time and 3 boss fights. The Bode twist was awesome and set the game up for a great final act.
6:56 Godamn cal
Cal buddy you need some therapy
Bro massacred all those imperial troops in anger💀
I don't know about you... but if I was a stormtrooper and witnessed a jedi striking down like 20 other stormtroopers and officers in the span of like half a second... my response would be to drop my gun and be like "Nope. We're cool. You don't need to kill me. I don't even wanna kill you anyway. I want all of none of this. Bye." My response would definitely not be to charge in, thinking "Yeah, I can take that."
Also, father of the year award goes to "Why stay with the good guys and save my daughter, when I could instead save my daughter by sacrificing thousands of innocent people?"
My thougths exactly, but remember that if u do that ur the one who has to talk with an Inquisitor or Vader of why ur team fail to protect the area.
OK I need you to look at this in a narrative point because to him the empire was unbeatable he would not risk his daughter being put in the line of fire if it meant losing her. He doesn’t even wanna be a part of this conflict because his loyalties lie with family.
It’s more of “why stay with the good guys that MAY give me a chance of saving my daughter, when I COULD instead save my daughter by sacrificing thousands of innocent people?”
And then Vader walks in and force chokes saying you impudent coward you dare defy me?
That's basically every game where the protagonist is able to take on dozens oor hundreds of enemies yet they continue to attack lol
He did master Cordova dirty
Cordova was asking for it.
Sidious probably watching Cal and his dark side moment, good my ginger friend , use the dark Side it makes you stronger,
Proceeds to start hurling Ginger insults to fuel Cal's anger and hatred 😂😂
“HURRY carrot top”
Gingers have no soul. No light or dark side. Only sunburn
His story sounds more like Shang Chi's father, who lost his wife and goes on a rampage, killing the Iron Gang.
Gotta love how Merrin, a user of dark side magic, is what stops Cal from turning to the dark side.
What I like about it, is the fact that it brings a lot more nuance to the dark side of the force, which is rarely ever explored because most users wind up being completely corrupted by it and the intense feedback loop of emotions. It's not the use of dark side force that's bad, but actively acting on the dark and evil desires that are reinforced by its use, which winds up corrupting you. Makes me wonder if Cal would start learning to dip into some dark side force in the 3rd game, but channeling it in a controlled and disciplined way, kinda like an even more badass version of Mace Windu.
@@emosgowoof I’ve always kinda thought that too. Starkiller used the dark side but was obviously serving the light, at the end of the game at least. Not canon anymore, I know.
@@emosgowoofhold on mace windu doesn’t have THAT kind of dark side
It’s just my opinion but I’d like to think Dathomirian magic is a different brand of dark side not truly accustomed to those practiced by the Sith
@@bradkeen9760 it isn’t, but it is still the dark side. There’s a reason that Sidious felt the need to wipe the nightsisters out(yes, in the son of Dathomir comic, he saw Mother Talzin as a threat to his power and an equal in terms of dark side). So they do use the darkside, and they are all force sensitive, they just don’t practice the ideology of the Sith.
"This is my best friend. We had a fight but we'll get things settled."
GOD that hurts.
As a kid you like the hero, and an adult you understand the villain
I understand why Bode’s scared of losing his daughter, but everything he did was out of fear, not love. He was willing to let thousands, if not millions, suffer from the Empire just so he can escape
No not true. Im adult and not understanding him a bit. If he wants to to good for his daughter he choose a very wrong path. He could have been honest to cal, especially because the empire killed his wife. No he plays both sides. He is just a selfisch asshole. If he had any morals he would have choosen cals side and be honest to him. That would also fullfill his goal to keep his daughter safe. And kata would still have a dad. "Understanding" comes not from growing up. There is nothing to understand in the first place.
Sort of but it doesn’t change most villains be , well, evil
@@hel7695what does that last quote mean?
@@JDog2656 momoshekar implies that Bodes actions are reasonable and right with the word "understanding" thats why i Put the symbols there
him being a jedi blew my mind like i did not expect that
I love that Cal's self righteousness is his biggest weakness. He's constantly judging the actions of others without considering their unique situation, and it's delivered not as some heroic trait but as something he needs to work on
Yeah it's a frustrating but admirable trait, that I hope is intentional.
I mean cal has his own dark side as well. Plus bode was completely in the wrong here
Isn't that basically the Jedi in a nutshell?
to be fair with Cal, it’s not really his fault, he was pretty much raised by people who were so devoided of any kind of emotional attachment they had little to no empathy for others and were strict about that rule to the point of dogmatism plus he wasn’t really wrong about Bode
I mean, Bode used him all along, manipulated him, got Cere and Cordova killed (the last one in cold blood), and did not give a flying fuck about giving the entire Hidden Path list (full of innocents fleeing the Empire) to Darth Vader. Cal is entirely right - though Bode's motives are understandable, his actions are monstruous. He basically has no qualms killing and throwing under the bus thousands of people, including those who belonged to his family of Jedi, just to protect his own daughter.
I think Kata would become Cal apprentice.
I just realized there's a couple tells that Bode was a jedi throughout the story, while they are about to leave Coruscant, Cal says "Bode, may the force be with you." And it stunlocks Bode for a moment cus that's a saying he probably hasn't heard in a long time.
“Rather you than lord vader” damn and the fact that he DID kill him eventually
Nice to see Charles' voice actor getting more roles.
i noticed it was the same guy right away and i geeked out ngl
Charles done a Micah
@@jpf7942 He's become the very thing he swore to destroy, being a rat
Anyone else notice that its cute his daughter has a little backpack, because her dad is always wearing a little jetpack and she wants to emulate him. Ive never noticed but its a nice detail. We look up to our parents so much. She wants a little backpack like her dad. Great game. Bode was a real highlight in the final act.
“This is my best friend.”
Despite the horrible shit he’d done - ratting Cere and the Anchorites/the Path out the Empire, killing Cordova - you could tell he meant every word of it. That said… he had to go. Innocent people died during the battle for Jedha. In trying to save Kata, Bode sort of became Anakin - losing himself to the dark side, putting that one single attachment over the lives of many others.
A best friend doesnt Stab you in the back, rattling you out to your arch Enemy leading to many deaths including your Master and teacher, work against you, killing your rather Figure, Tries to Kill you and your friends. And he doesnt even show one tony piece of regret. This is not what a best friend does. Your actions have more weight than your words. And Bode is delusional. He gets whats coming for him
@@hel7695 hey, I agree with you. I said Bode lost himself. He did mean every word and still considered Cal his best friend, I think - which shows he lost his marbles, because if Bode actually knew Cal, he’d know the latter would never forgive him for this betrayal.
4:54 “The first time I held her… I felt the entire galaxy in her eyes.”
I have a feeling that in the next game we will get a dark side and light side option with different endings.
I doubt it. Think Cal will definitely crossover to live-action so choice endings seem unlikely.
It might be like an Ezra type situation. Struggling between both light and dark because he wants to protect his friends.
That's if we get a third game, considering just how terrible the launch was for this game.
@@isaiahgeorge906 we will.
@@isaiahgeorge906 normie take. Game is amazing held back by performance issues. Gameplay is amazing and so is the story. It’s gonna sell regardless. We’re getting a trilogy.
Another Jedi? Well there was like 100 left
- oh right, this game is the definition of,
KILL EM ALL!
well hes dead
Well, Obi-Wan did send out a distress beacon to warn all the remaining Jedi to do whatever it takes to survive when he and Yoda stormed the Jedi temple. Looks like it worked a lot better than people gave him credit for. Also, the Galaxy is ginormous.
Order 66 apparently only means kill 66 Jedi and call it a day😂😂😂
Well a few hundred
I pegged bode from the beginning, but they still did a good job with his character.
I didn’t know he was into all of that. Feel bad for his daughter, but different strokes for different folks and all
@@D00dman😂
Ayoooooooo
You what?
When Cal embraced the dark side, I embraced the dark side. This game did such an incredible job of relaying anger and betrayal to the player. I feel heartbroken and betrayed now that the game is over.
I love that I said out loud no he's a father right before he said it
4:20: Your actions are no excuse for what you did, Bode. If you had seen how many families that were being protected by the Hidden Path, you would understand that all of us, Jedi survivors and Force-Sensitive families and their friends, were in danger of being captured, tortured and murdered by the Empire. You were going to sacrifice thousands of innocent lives just to save one. Your daughter would never approve of what you had done. You betrayed everything the Order stood for, Cere Junda and Eno Cordova are gone because of you. And like Dagan Gera and Taron Malicos…you, Bode Akuna, you are no Jedi.
Honestly, Bode was straight up a mouth breather. He could have explained his backstory to Cal and then they could have rescued his daughter together, but nope he just had to snitch them to the Empire and result in the death of thousand innocent.
I know he was played as a tragic character but I just cant feel sorry for him after this
Yeah, I feel sorry only for his daughter. Her father wanted her to live her life alone on isolated planet. If that's not domestic violence I don't know what it is
I think this was essentially was turned Bode's crystal red. He became more and more paranoid about losing his daughter until eventually just falling to the Dark Side.
@@TheAwesomeDarkNinja he has no crystal, he took Dagan's lightsaber
@@ekaf1735 this guy reads lore book.
It wasn't about rescuing Kata it was about keeping her hidden. Bode knows there's no fighting the Empire, in the long run they'll win eventually.
He needed Tanalor and he needed as little people to know about it as possible, he was fine with the idea of Cal and his family joining but The Hidden Path was a giant risk to Kata's safety.
Cal shows here a very high degree of empathy, speaking to and trying to understand the view of somebody who just killed Master Cordoba and betrayed the whole crew which resulted to Ceres death....He also respects the little girl and the father-daughter relationship and tries not to escalate the situation while remaining totally honest. What a human being....Somebody else would definitely use the situation in his favor and take the little girl as hostage in order to get the compass back.
The desire to do good, can also lead those down the Dark path
Cal going full Starkiller.
Its looks like cal's trilogy is gonna fell in dark side
Is it a Trilogy? EA will lose its Star Wars license this year.
@@diekrassekresse852 Lucasfilm could still strike a deal with EA/Respawn for a third game if this one does well.
@@diekrassekresse852 They only lost their exclusivity license. They can still make games, they just aren’t the only ones who can anymore
Smth I noticed while playing this is that the purge troopers start to kill the ISB officers (6:38)
Bode doesn’t have any excuse for what he did. But a father will do anything to protect his child.
Thats a Bad excuse. There is no justification for what he has done. Even if he has a child. He could done something different
You are a monster Zodd..I mean..Bode.
Hmm, nice touch on the Dark Side and its effects. You could feel how he could use more juice but also see him getting drained of his sanity (becoming more violent) as well.
This gave off huge Starkiller vibes
This part in the game kind of turned Cal into more star killer I like it. It’s interesting how he uses the dark side of the force yet doesn’t fall to it… well almost does until Merrin brings him back.
This gives me Kill Bill vibes. Anyone else? When The Bride meets Bill but her daughter is present so they cannot kill each other. What a great scene developing Bode.
After Order 66, Cal has met 8 Jedi/ former Jedi and only 2 of them were nice
Nice ones: Cere and Cordova. Not nice ones: Trilla, Ninth Sister, Vader, Fifth Brother, Dagan, Bode.
I swear Bode is being played by the same guy who played Charles in Red Dead II
He is
5:46 Cal:Get out of my way.
Okie but was destroying the R2 unit really necessary
Just because it looks innocent doesn’t mean it is. Remember R3 from the clone wars?
@@joshuawillis602 true, but that droid was just minding his own business, doing his job and suddenly, GINGER!
@@TheVossman-V2 it’s probably programmed to do things that will endanger many innocent lives. It’s an empire droid after all
@@TheVossman-V2
Err remember Choper?
@@metal_fusion what about chopper ?
Since both of the games' stories are so good, I just have a bad feeling about the show they are going to do with Cal.
I think they are definitely going to mess it up, or even ruin the background setup, and make the third game becomes very weird.
There is no confirmation that Cal will appear in live action, but people really want it
@@kikk276 I heard he's getting a third game He's going to have a trilogy
@@ShadowedSasuke yes we are for sure getting a third game, but live action is not confirmed. i do hope they make it happen.
BD looking for Kata’s doll is SO CUTE! ❤
I know she's just 3D but Kata's such a cute kid.
Arthur: "Charles? Is that you?"
3:31 imagine how ironic it would be if the Inquisitor sent to kill Bode and his family was the Second Sister
Bode is definitely a case of someone who has PTSD
Couldn't have Bode stayed with the anchorites and travel with them to Telanorr?
Basically, Bode believed giving Tanalorr to the Hidden path would make them vulnerable still. He either thought it would make them a bigger target or could invite spies to give it away and then it wouldnt be safe.
He was worried letting the hidden path set up would put a target on Tanalor
This scene and other cutscenes in this game work do well without the background music
That "my best friend" felt like a slap in the face after what he did. It must have taken all of Cal's restraint to keep from going for his throat.
When she said “well I have to finish packing I can’t find my Mookie doll” I thought Cal was gonna help her find it and then pull a blaster on him lol. I don’t trust nothing that comes from Bode.
wolf from sekiro
Wasn’t he supposed to reach a certain area before triggering that cut scene? It looks like he just teleported. 6:43 - 6:46
Cal is pretty powerful
6:36 How dare you slain this R2 unit 😢
Get outta my way to a whole room of emps goes hard
I understand bode situation. I would've burn the whole world to the ground if my wife life been taken away from me and i would do anything to keep my family safe, but it didn't justify what he did to the other people. You can always find a choice no matter the situation.
So you would Rattle your friends out to the people Who Took your wife and work for them? Wtf dude. You have to think logically
@@hel7695 that not what i meant. I would do anything to keep my family safe but i didn't said i would work for my enemy just to keep my family safe. Like i've said his action does not justify his reason. There are always choice you can make. I also don't understand how bode can work for the enemies that killed his wife.
If you burn the world to the ground, what life is there left to live?
@@JDog2656 there nothing left for me when everything i have is destroyed. You would understand if you in his situation
@@magiclee8256 then allow me to give a quote given to someone who's family had in fact been murdered by an evil genocidal maniac: "Everybody's got dead people! That's no excuse to get everybody else dead along the way!"
I shattered much like Cal. All our hard work in helping people, gathering remnants of the Archives, trying to restore the Jedi Order, lost..........BECAUSE OF HIM!!!!!! Master Cordova, Cere, two of the last remaining Jedi in the galaxy, MURDERED, at his hand!
Maybe don't put massive spoilers like that in the title, the day after release?
cry about it
@@danekiii8940gonna cry?
Just FYI, if Anakin hadn’t fallen in love with Padmé, none of this shit would have happened.
Would that stop order 66
Nope it would had happened order 66 the clone wars was all planned already
Natalie Portman will do that to a fella.
@@JohnG44 not exactly the order was implemented wouldn’t wouldn’t be used until Palpatine found his perfect apprentice. Because he wouldn’t risk a specimen, a potential apprentice, if you will to be killed.
@Sinful Adam nope that order was not waiting for anakin to turn it was waiting until all the jedi were far from coruscant if anakin hadn't turn it woundlt matter he would had been executed as well
That’s the day you call in sick
Bode is basically Micah from Red Dead but with understandable motivations yet you hate him at the same time.
Which is kinda funny because bode is voiced by charles voice actor
@@lifeimitatingart98 And he was the most honorable person in the Dutch gang.
No. Is see none understandable motivation
I can't really see how Bode is is similar to Micah other than the very basic narrative element of them both being traitors
Kata will make a great apprentice for Cal.
The road to the Dark Side is paved with good intentions. Such is a case for Bode.
"You don't work here do you?"
*DAMN IT! MY DISGUISE DIDNT WORK!*
A ginger jedi is a terrifying prospect. No soul means you van take the best of bith side
How messed up and ironic would’ve been if it were Trilla who killed his wife.
Is that, the lightsaber form Cal uses when he goes dark, is that Juyo? Cause it looks a lot like what I'd imagine
While I don’t like Bode’s choice and all, I understand that you must be willing to save your family at any cost. Even if it means sacrificing yourself in the process.
Its one thing to give your life, its another to condemn yourself and everyone else paying the price
He wanted to sacrifice his daughter's happiness. She would live all her life alone. Creepy as hell
It's one thing to sacrifice yourself, and another entirely to sacrifice thousands of innocent people who didn't ask for any of it and also have families of their own
So did what's-his-name literally make sure that any inquisitor/vader never got near enough to sense bode?
the droid did nothing dude
Is it me, or has Cal kinda become more self-righteous since the last game? The kind of self-righteousness that destroyed the Jedi in the first place.
It’s just you
CAL!! CHILL THE HELL OUT DUDE!!!😨😨😨😱😱😱
As soon as Bode betrayed us I was fine with making Kata an orphan.
One complaint with this game... They needed to leave either Bode or Dagan alive to eventually join us. Seems like a waste to off them both after one go.
Honestly do wish that they did more with Dagan. Him even seeing Tanalorr again, even if one last time as a good guy on the Mantis crew, would have been a nice conclusion to his arc. If they still had to kill him then at least make him die during Bode’s fight or something. That’s a complaint I share with you, but besides that I do like the game and story.
I think they're doing the best they can with the premise. The whole point of the Jedi series is that there's not a lot of them left. Having an entire crew of active Jedi sort of downplays why Luke is so important.
This scene reminds me of the intro scene from kill bill
Cal would make a fine inquisitor 😂
Who is the real Jedi killer Cal or Vader?
Vader. Because Cal killed those that gave him no choice.
@@joshuawillis602 what bout rick the door technician he was just doing his job
@@marquviousgreen4674 well technically Rick charged at him with the intent to kill so……..
@@joshuawillis602 like i said rick was just doing his job nothing personal, he has a family to take care of😭
If Cal submits Bode’s idea of forgoing all the past, forget about salvation, He can start a new life with Merlin and his friends, live peacefully in Tantalorr.
Yeah right. People can do to you what they want and you forgive them? Man thats bad
Charles Smith?
Yes
What outfit you wearing an where can I find it
Kata is Luke and Leia’s age here. Come to think of it this is around the same time as Obi-Wan and Solo.
I just don’t get it. Why Bode just didn’t ask Cal to help him right After they killed Dagan and get compass. Like. “Cal. Bud. We get your Compass back. Cordova gonna fix it. While he doing that Can you please help me to save my daughter and bring her to archives instead of fighting this 2 giant frogs over and over. It’s really important. Thank you” Happy End
Acting in this scene was out of control. Goddamn......... puts anything in Hollyweird to shame. Bode actor especially should be at least nominated for best actor or supporting actor for the video game awards, amazing performance.
Kata reminds me of Toph
I hate how I can't hear anything but Kotallo 😂
Also Charles from Red Dead Redemption 2.
And Detective Rama from Guild Wars 2: End of Dragons
At this point, it’s just sad! Cal has the power to survive from a lot empire attacks. But the people he call friends won’t be that lucky . They go on missions with him then die from the mission . What is the point to “save” the universe when the consequence is sacrificing the love ones .
Ngl i wish bode would of said "you turned her aganst me" then cal should of said "you have done that yourself"
Corny
My god that voice cannot be mistaken. What happened to you, Charles? Mashal Kotallo?
7:10 6:50 7:19
6:35 you killed an R2 unit!!