I would suggest that his lack of "proper training" is his greatest strength. He is not hindered by what a Jedi CAN do, his driving force is "What does he NEED to do?" The traditional way of training a Jedi would be a handicap for Cal. Not knowing where the limits are supposed to be allows Cal to keep pushing without the concern of "will this be enough?" because it has to be enough.
Valid point. He's had no one telling him, "NO! That leads to the dark side." As a result, he seems to be able to tap into the dark side without fully giving himself over to it. Ironically, it's partly his attachment to Merrin that allows him to do that. She is his anchor in the light.
I agree with this fully. In fact it's pretty reminiscent to Luke's jedi from legends as Luke believed that hard work and dedication to the force and one's training, as well as embracing one's feelings of love for others is what brought out a Jedi's full potential. Luke also didn't believe in using midichlorian counts to measure his Jedi's potential either. Something that the prequal era of Jedi also did that limited their potential.
Its not a big deal, but you should replace your "CAN" with "SHOULD", since that's clearly what you meant in the context of the sentence. He isn't hindered by what a Jedi should(is supposed to) do. He does whatever he feels the situation requires. "Can" kinda ruins the whole statement lol, since he is most definitely utilizing everything a Jedi *can* do in order to achieve his goals.
I can sort of see this. The sequel Jedi: Survivor is called 'Survivor' for a reason, and Cal did what he had to do to survive from the Empire this entire time. I imagine Cal would have received additional training from Cere Junda, as he does recall training and lessons from both Cere and his former master as a Padawan, Jara Tapal, but obviously that time was cut short due to the pair (Cere and Cal) going their separate ways. I think Cal certainly had to learn from his experiences, he had no choice but to adapt if he was going to survive.
@@exile6688 While I agree that Cal is no slouch, putting him on par with the likes of Starkiller also doesn't feel right. Cal still exercises restrain. Marek rarely does, if at all.
I wasn’t expecting Cal to be *this* powerful. He’s certainly unorthodox. From using irregular force powers to using equally irregular lightsaber fighting styles. Mostly self taught. Even opponents with great experience will never have faced someone as versatile as him. After fallen order, I thought Cal was a pretty strong, just about average Jedi with some unique skills. But after Survivor… he’s no joke. But, in the end, I adore him because he’s such a good character. And him and Merrin’s relationship is my favourite romantic relationship in Star Wars. Honestly… Merrin seems really powerful too. She certainly knows handy some handy rituals and spells. Invisibility and teleportation… Wow. We’ve rarely seen nightsister tap into all this power, except for smother Talzin herself. Maybe it has something to do with Merrin being about the only nightsister that’s left. But maybe she too has some very underrated potential in the force.
Post Jedi Survivor we can expect that Cal and Merrins relationship will only continue to grow and develop and they are likely going to be training together in combat. Honestly if they both teamed up at full power I would not expect anyone alive in that era save for Vader or Palpatine to survive that.
I think that Cal might be so powerful because of his ability to sense information from objects. Almost like he's absorbing Jedi (and other force user) teachings whenever he's in contact with his history.
@@Cobiscrisp6476 He can learn fighting styles too by using that force hability, yeah that was also my point. if he learned a song just by touching the instrument, imagine in fighting skills what he learned with cere, malicos, ninth and mainly second sister, degon, bode and even Vader.
In canon it’s also suggested by the Grand Inquisitor that following order 66 and the near eradication of the Jedi, the force tried balancing things out by blessing the few remaining Jedi, with a major boost in force power. This would explain why characters such as Cere could grow to the point of nearly defeating Darth Vader or Cal being able to take on Dagan.
@@baki484 in the canon book Star Wars dark legends which has a story where the Grand Inquisitor reflects on one of his defeats against Jedi Padawan Kira Ventala who he originally remembered as being a weak padawan back at the temple.
Eh, I think that’s not really reliable. Ultimately we are just seeing outliers, but those outliers already were outliers. Almost any jedi can actually reach extreme danger levels, but most don’t prioritize combat. So the few that do (Kenobi/Windu/) or who posses a greater intuition to unlocking those skills, (also windu/anakin, yoda) are way ahead. Toss mace windu, kenobi, probably ahsoka and kit fisto, or yoda from clone wars into the same situations Cal was in, and they’d probably utterly dominate the situation. Most of his feats that seem impressive are aoe feats mostly useful against weak enemies, but loads of jedi don’t actually need that.
@@firstnamelastname9237you are talking about Jedi masters, and a grand master. Who have trained and been trained to the highest standards. Cal is just a young man who has very limited younglin training. Everything else is self taught through trials and tribulations. Put cal into the same environment and then chances are he would excel over most Jedi masters.
I perceive Cal as a younger human version of Yoda, someone who is at its core a force user with powerful consular like abilities but trained extensively or was exposed enough to lightsaber combat to be on par with above average duelists at the very least, given the characters he defeats. (yoda being much older however can even tackle Dooku/Sidious which is peak, but I mean you can't beat how ancient Yoda's race is really, tough Yoda's lightsaber skill is more intentional) As for Cal joining Luke's Jedi Order, one neat way to retcon him into it would be to put him into a position akin to Katarn's but throw him out into the wild on long term missions like scouring the galaxy for sith artifacts and holocrons, like jedi shadows used to, that might be a good way of saying "he was always there he just went unnoticed because he was out of camera" while giving an excuse to have a show with Cal and possibly Ahsoka and other new characters without having to literally rewrite cannon while still retconing it.
I definitely think Cal has unspoken consular qualities. He often tries to seek allies in people. And it worked wonders with Merrin. It took him going on his own journey, but he realised she was just another scared and scarred survivor, like himself. Of course, he also hears force echos in her story. I think it’s telling how much faith he puts in her, though, before fighting Malicos (a Jedi master, we should remind ourselves… Cal beat a Jedi master [with help]). He literally gives her his lightsaber. He may not have been told ‘this weapon is your life’, by Obi-Wan, but certainly he’s learned similar lessons. Besides, when his crystal broke… he had no choice but run for dear life to escape Dathomir. That weapon really was his life.
The creative director for both Jedi games left the company, and took a lot of senior we engineers with him, so I'm at least not holding my breath on the quality of the writing for the third game, but hopefully enough of it was outlined and enough of the original staff remains for it to be good.
I wish Cal would have an appearance in some other series. And in case something happens to him in the games, I only have one arm so I never got a chance to play them.
dont let it stop you my g! Master Jaro Tapal said: The path is difficult The obstacles in your path define the path What stands in your way becomes the way! The force will be with you my g!
I think one of Cal’s underrated feats was After restoring his connection to the force, he fought and pressured Taron Malicos in a light saber fight, Who was a former Jedi master who had turn to the Darkside and was being strengthened by the Darkside Nexxus of Dathomir. Though Cal was Inferior in the force department and needed help to defeat him.
All of the fights Cal goes in he's at a disadvantage. Against Trilla and 9th sister his connection was blocked Against Malicos he was in a darkside Nexus Against dagan he was hit with an illusion and out fenced him in the their second duel. Emotionally conflicted against Bode both times and showed superiority once no one got in his way.
Also the fact that (and no one seems to ever mention this) he stopped training in any fashion for 10 years and was separated from the force. And in the span of a few days, was able to defeat two inquisitors and a former Jedi master. Hell, the fact he didn’t just get instantly murdered by Vader should be proof alone
In Survivor he's still behind Cere's level, but still he's not at his peak. Hope they don't turn him a dark jedi, but rather continuing his arc which could absolutely merge with EU Luke's Jedi Academy and turning out one of the most proficient jedi (alongside the Dathomirian force user Merrin and their adopted daughter, biological seed of Bode - all this story fits so well in Luke's EU jedi academy)
@@Maddog-xc2zv nah id love him becoming the kind of jedi that aims to understand all sides of the force. I guess thats something that could fit in the EU academy
Any Jedi powerful enough to survive Darth Vader on multiple occasions is already enough to put someone up there with the most powerful masters of the era, even when disregarding his other feats.
Sounds like he was very similar to Luke, everything he pretty much had to learn on this own. That is the best part no dogma, learning from both sides, and learning from scratch even in the real world is better than learning from a book.
Respawn has definitely outdone themselves with Fallen Order, and Jedi Survivor. Can’t wait for the third installment (ps wish they’d make Titanfall 3. TF2 story was amazing as well)
I don’t know at what date Jedi Survivor takes place, but it should be around the battle of Yavin. It would be a great story if Cal became a member of GM Luke's New Jedi Order alongside Kyp Durron, Kyle Katarn etc. They share common values and philosophies (using dark side forces without being corrupted), Cal is very versatile in force skills, he takes leadership to secure the life of a group of force skilled people, he has fought against the inquisition for many years. He would fit perfectly into being a member Luke's New Jedi Order
If only Luke's Order wasn't doomed to bad writing that culminates in him becoming a hermit living on green milk. I think Cal would quickly exit stage left back to Tanalorr once he saw that happen.
@@The_Lucent_Archangel nah, I'm pretty sure EU Grandmaster Luke doesn’t like green milk. Please don't remind me of that Sequel 🗑️ , I suffered PTSD after watching that trash.
In regards to Cal’s lightsaber skills, I’ve always been under the impression that he combined his implied talent in Form VI Niman with the simplistic blade work of Form I Shii-Cho, given that Cal was a young Padawan when Order 66 was issued and the wide sweeping attack sequences he employed.
He was with Jaro for 3 years form 1 seems to be his fallback due to his lack of confidence with form 6 after being out of practice but by end he mixed them together.
This is great. Really great. No wonder why he's so powerful. He's facing stormtroppers all the time,Sith acolytes. Trauma of Order 66. Plus everything you mentioned. He's that and so much more. Have a phenomenal day too!
Personally hope there is no Vader cameo in the third one. They put him in everything for member berries at this point. If it's post-Empire, it might be fun to have him beat up Kylo Ren during a one-off encounter since he fancies himself the Dollar Store knock-off of Darth Vader. And he kind of deserves to get smacked around prior to his "redemption" for what he did to Han Solo. Not to mention Iden's hubby and others.
@@The_Lucent_Archangel Cal and Vader have history, plus he killed Cere. You don’t understand how storytelling works. Kylo Ren? I am greatful you have nothing to do with this series. What an awful idea.
@@dariyanvalentine3564 Vader has taken L’s before. Cal just can’t kill him. Which frankly would be a full circle for him showing he’s a true Jedi. Then we can put his arc with Vader to bed and move him into other stories. Unless they want him to die, which I am not a fan of. Especially when Disney is afraid to kill Ahsoka.
Cal is a Jedi who has learned to use his passion for good. And any sith would know that passion is power under the right circumstances of anger through the dark side. But Cal learned patience. The sith greatest downfall was being impatient. Truely, a powerful force user to reckon with
The fact he's faced off against Vader and a High Republic Jedi is just insane and probably means he could have easily made council but they probably would have tried killing him for using the dark side to amp his already impressive natural abilities.
Cal is someone i can relate too. He's also compassionate, and loyal to his crew, and always tries to do the thing. He makes mistakes sure but cal is still a true jedi.
You hit on the spot his story is new untold there's so much we do to new about his character that we are still diving into this was great breakdown video I cant wait to see what type of Jedi he becomes.
I think something else that's really important here, and I know there are many comments and someone has undoubtedly mentioned this: Cal had many journeys with both the night sister maren and Jedi Master cere Junda, who we already know has taught him things off screen, and while I know they don't show anything in relation to lightsaber training, I feel like she must have taught him a few things in relation to lightsaber technique, especially when you consider that their combat skills are largely similar; it's just that one of them is a Jedi master trained in the days of the Old Republic, when the Jedi were at the height of their power and skill, and the other is an incredibly powerful and didactic Jedi Knight. Super cool topic too btw; I love this game, and Star wars with a passion I cannot describe, and I'm sure everyone involved with this channel does as well, thank you so much for making this guys 😃
A couple things to keep in mind in this analysis: 1) Most of Cal's power is amplified for gameplay and narrative reasons. 2) His lightsaber style only incorporates pieces of actual jedi training but largely consists of him filling in the gaps himself. This leaves a lot of wiggle room for one of the trickiest things to power scale in these stories, which is narrative convenience. He will only ever be as powerful as the story allows him to be; sometimes he will appear very powerful, sometimes he will appear weak and unrefined. The safest way to scale Cal is based on what the story has told us, which is this: Cere, as a jedi master, knighted Cal formally as a jedi knight. So I would scale him for sure as a clone-wars era jedi knight, probably well past the stage at which he would take on a padawan of his own. His survival skills and force abilities are well above average, no question. But I suspect his formal lightsaber skills are roughly par at best, with their shortcomings being made up for with creativity and sheer grit. My evidence for this: he adapted a blaster into lightsaber combat- something any average jedi would never do, nor would they typically need to. It's an admission that he needs to kill in order to boost his chances of surviving an encounter.
Take in count that even before being knighted by Cere he was fighting Taron Malicos (with Merrin's help but he could still keep well), who was a jedi master that fall into the darkside. In addition, they were fighting in Dathomir. So by default Cal should a pretty strong jedi knight to do something like that. For the second game he fights enemies that aren't average, Rayvis and Dagan Gera have pretty good statements about their power. Then, even if we just limited to what the story tell us and leave aside the gameplay he still would be a pretty powerful jedi knight or maybe in the level of a jedi master or more.
I feel like Cal is such a wild card of a Jedi. That’s attributed to the game-ification of his character cuz he is, ya know, the player character. But I see him as kind of an experiment of a Jedi. What if a Jedi had a gun, what if a Jedi wasn’t restrained by the dogma of the Jedi code, and not taught what his master thought he needed, but he learned what he NEEDS to know to survive. It’s also a great diamond in the rough story.
When it comes to the survivor story, I think the mystery of bode's master may well come in the next installment, like sidious, bode was able to completely mask his mind from detection from nearby force users. He wasnt aligned at all with the inquisitors so it was likely somebody outside this realm. The rule of two is only so when the current sith lord cant detect any other sith around except for his apprentice. The star wars universe NEEDS more independant force users that arent aligned with the normally known factions, however hazardous it is for them to exist so.
I think Cal Kestis and Legends’ Luke were evidence that Jedi Order durning the prequel were largely wrong how they train their students. The Order were trying to making them into the prefect Jedi instead of the best the version of the Jedi they wanted to be.
@@thomasparque7834 Yeah the republic jedi were honestly kinda boring compared to all other timelines. I would love a show or game showing us what the jedi would look like at their peak
In my canon he indeed Joins Luke’s New Jedi Order and Becomes Its First True Jedi Weapon Master A.k.a The Next Vodo-Siosk Baas and he even befriends Starkiller (Galen Marek’s Clone)
If he continues to advance in power, and as rapidly as we've seen, I could see a very real chance of The Emperor giving Cal his personal attention. Which would be quite the show down.
its great to finally have cal's lightsaber form known what makes's it better is not alot of jedi mastered form 6 the only other one who mastered form 6 was exar kun
Cal is quite skilled in Force abilities and Lightsaber combat despite not finishing his Jedi training. I really like that he is able traverse multiple planets, take on multiple stormtroopers, purgetroopers and Inquisitors as well! Cal hadn't used any of his Force skills, as well as his lightsaber for five years. Through re-connecting with the Force, he was able to get what he needed to get done on each planet and access the Holocron on Bogano. He survived an encounter with Darth Vader. Not many Jedi can say that.
I really loved the way he crushes the droids like aluminum cans of softdrinks every time he embraces his darkness, if only he learns force lightning he'd be an even more formidable opponent against the empire
In the EU you need years in using the dark side of the force to be able to use force lightning also you need to let the dark side flow through you in anger and desire to inflict pain
Cal does not use any of the 7 lighsaber forms, the only one he was probably taught was form 1 as he was so early in his padawanhood. He has a self learnt style which suits him well. He uses form 1, 4, 5, 6-ish manouvers, but neither form in particular and adds a lot of unique. His greatest strength is his high force potential and talent to wield the force in so many ways.
He was made a padawan after the battle of Geonosis (attack of the clones). His strength lies in lightsaber combat. The art of the game book for JFO confirms this. Niman being his form makes sense. His ability to wield the force also in highly stressful situations is what Jaro taught him.
Yeah! He's powerful!! I turned him into a Purge Trooper killer and Bounty Hunter killer playing as him... Heck... All those gamers who do no-damage videos make Cal look like a force to be reckoned with...
Cal echo in the force ability allows him to learn with ever single character he changes paths with, like when he just started to play the music Cere's composed from the thin air. Same with fighting forms and other abilities of others he crossed blades with, including the ninth sister (although she seems a bit of pathetic and arrogant), 2nd sister, Cere, Bode, Malicos, Merrin (a powerful nightsister force user), Gera and even from the brief time he faced Vader
Cals power increase from fallen order to survivor is insane. Went from struggling against inquisitiors to killing them with ease. Not to mention killing rayvis and dagan
Stances were cool - but I found that the double lightsaber was basically the best. Heavy for some units and single for others, but majority the double lightsaber. I sweared a lot in this game at the controls, enemies spamming red attacks on you, and good luck healing during combat with slow command response. The powers you unlock also felt underwhelmed or insignificant 80% of the time. I'm like "you JUST learned this, why can't you use it - dumb game". Really takes the fun out of everything these game developers. Jedi Knight Outcast & Academy remain KING.
@@kaidorade1317 that's because EA was eager to profit from the game release also on PC. At the time the former Respawn (the bulk of all Jedi games - fallen order and survivor - in all chapters you might think of) CEO asked for a few months to make the game "perfect", but EA did what they do best: acting like EA.
Idiots mentioning Starkiller when the creators of the Force Unleashed said his canonical events are in the book, where he's no where near as powerful and the only reason he was so OP on the game was to make it more fun but he's not actually that strong. He never pulled a Star Destroyer out of orbit for example, he guided one that was falling. He didn't beat Vader in the Force Unleashed novelization, he lost quite badly. Star Wars fans don't even pay attention to the media they claim to love
Even in the force unleashed 2 the more powerful clone starkiller said the best he can hope for is a stalemate against Vader and was glad Vader opted to force a surrender instead of killing him outright.
Little late to the party, but this, this is the comment I was looking for. Even if Star Killer’s game power was cannon, I hate how people use Star Killer to diminish Cal’s feats
The novel is an afterthought to most fans. The games are Starkiller's main storyline, canon or not. So you can't blame people for saying Starkiller is OP when that's the primary representation of him in Star Wars.
I can't wait to see how powerful Cal Kestis will become in the third game especially since his powers are growing both in the light and dark side. I think in the third game the developers should have Merrin teach Cal how to properly channel the dark side without being corrupted by it because unlike the sith the nightsisters are in harmony with the dark side
i liked how the dark side was used in survivor, not necessarily bad, but easy to get carried away with. it is incredibly useful but also blinding. with training in using it with moderation, one could easily offset the drawbacks. that was the implication i got.
The way he plays in the two games makes you FEEL his increase in power betweem the two games. Dont get me wrong, he is no Starkiller, but he has the benefit of feeling powerful while retaining at least some belieability rather than force pulling entire star destroyers out of orbit and force crushing AT-ATs into the size of an Xbox One.
Starkiller guided an already falling star destroyer, which is still huge but not the same. Plus in canon books Starkiller is being nerfed as he was seen as much to OP in the games and got his ass kicked by Vader rather than the opposite. It's kind of a retcon, and while The Force Unleashed games are now EU, Kesti's games still canon
I'd love a live action movie starring Cameron Monaghan as Cal. Maybe not centered on Cal, but with him playing a significant role. I really enjoyed the character's journey from a scared ex-Padawan, to whom a couple of stormtroopers can be a life-threatening encounter (Fallen Order), to the new legend on par with Jedi Order's high-profile heroes (Jedi Survivor) who can stand up to the worst that the Empire, or anything else can throw at him.
EA has confirmed that a 3rd and final jedi game, it will be interesting to see the events after jedi survivor, and see him become even stronger than Cere Junda
Cal is very gifted. However, in the first game he is broken and hasn’t used the force in along time and having never finished his training he wasn’t taught to hold back as much especially cuz he was being trained during war time. And after he was rediscovered he had to continue to push the limits while still reacquainting himself with the force. On the fly. Cal is also extremely adaptable and doesn’t restrict himself to one combat style as he was trained by Jaro Tapal who was proficient in all forms of lightsaber combat and then by cere who was a force to be reckoned with by herself. Jedi Survivor showed just how much he had grown in the time jump between games. And frankly they are really top notch Star Wars games in my opinion and are on par with the force unleashed in my book but that is my opinion on the matter. I know not everyone will agree with my assessment.
Talked about this with a friend recently but the reason I like Cal is for the same reason I like Obi-Wan, he may not be as powerful as a Skywalker but he's still skilled and a survivor doing what needs to be done to survive he does not hesitate. Even going outside the Jedi Norm like using Blasters like Obi-Wan did when it was needed to survive. If you would to put classic Fantasy classes in Star Wars Obi-Wan and Cal I would put into the Rogue class, they are survivors and the most likely to walk away from the battle field alive, even if it wasn't a pretty get away and that Luck Stat is Maxed out.
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I would suggest that his lack of "proper training" is his greatest strength. He is not hindered by what a Jedi CAN do, his driving force is "What does he NEED to do?" The traditional way of training a Jedi would be a handicap for Cal. Not knowing where the limits are supposed to be allows Cal to keep pushing without the concern of "will this be enough?" because it has to be enough.
Valid point. He's had no one telling him, "NO! That leads to the dark side." As a result, he seems to be able to tap into the dark side without fully giving himself over to it.
Ironically, it's partly his attachment to Merrin that allows him to do that. She is his anchor in the light.
I agree with this fully. In fact it's pretty reminiscent to Luke's jedi from legends as Luke believed that hard work and dedication to the force and one's training, as well as embracing one's feelings of love for others is what brought out a Jedi's full potential. Luke also didn't believe in using midichlorian counts to measure his Jedi's potential either. Something that the prequal era of Jedi also did that limited their potential.
I agree with this. He's gone further because he hasn't been limited.
Its not a big deal, but you should replace your "CAN" with "SHOULD", since that's clearly what you meant in the context of the sentence.
He isn't hindered by what a Jedi should(is supposed to) do. He does whatever he feels the situation requires.
"Can" kinda ruins the whole statement lol, since he is most definitely utilizing everything a Jedi *can* do in order to achieve his goals.
I can sort of see this. The sequel Jedi: Survivor is called 'Survivor' for a reason, and Cal did what he had to do to survive from the Empire this entire time. I imagine Cal would have received additional training from Cere Junda, as he does recall training and lessons from both Cere and his former master as a Padawan, Jara Tapal, but obviously that time was cut short due to the pair (Cere and Cal) going their separate ways. I think Cal certainly had to learn from his experiences, he had no choice but to adapt if he was going to survive.
Cal is by far the best thing to come out of the current era of Star Wars imo
And the funny thing is, Disney didn’t exactly have a say. Respawn are the masterminds
Dude, the SWTOR RPG's still getting content. Besides let's face it, at the end of the day Cal's techically still just a Hero of Tython knock off.
@@exile6688 Ehh...I don't know. Many of the exploits of the Hero of Tython are rather OP. Cal's at least seem a bit more believable.
@@ThoraxetheImpaile100 Dude Cal's reminisant of Galen Marek force wise and you're calling SWTOR's characters OP.
@@exile6688 While I agree that Cal is no slouch, putting him on par with the likes of Starkiller also doesn't feel right. Cal still exercises restrain. Marek rarely does, if at all.
I wasn’t expecting Cal to be *this* powerful. He’s certainly unorthodox. From using irregular force powers to using equally irregular lightsaber fighting styles. Mostly self taught. Even opponents with great experience will never have faced someone as versatile as him. After fallen order, I thought Cal was a pretty strong, just about average Jedi with some unique skills. But after Survivor… he’s no joke.
But, in the end, I adore him because he’s such a good character. And him and Merrin’s relationship is my favourite romantic relationship in Star Wars. Honestly… Merrin seems really powerful too. She certainly knows handy some handy rituals and spells. Invisibility and teleportation… Wow. We’ve rarely seen nightsister tap into all this power, except for smother Talzin herself. Maybe it has something to do with Merrin being about the only nightsister that’s left. But maybe she too has some very underrated potential in the force.
Post Jedi Survivor we can expect that Cal and Merrins relationship will only continue to grow and develop and they are likely going to be training together in combat. Honestly if they both teamed up at full power I would not expect anyone alive in that era save for Vader or Palpatine to survive that.
Cal was able to bypass the Disney lightsaber nerf when he embraces the dark side. That’s pretty powerful.
Because Kathleen Kennedy didn't care about the games
Kennedy is like poison ☠️ when it comes to making good Star Wars
@@alsimmonshellspawn6021thank god she didn’t. We have one of the best characters since Luke
@skateboardin99amer22 nah there are alot of great characters in the old EU
@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 in my opinion
just the fact he is still alive shows his strength
When will we see a Cal Kestis Vs Darth Vader Duel Happen?
@@starkillerab1582 Maybe in jedi survivor sequel
@@starkillerab1582so starkiller you think Cal could have potential on par with you? LOL
Wdym mean me? I didn’t say Starkiller I said Vader
@@starkillerab1582if they do that it means he’s dying at the end of the game. No way he’s surviving two encounters with him
I think that Cal might be so powerful because of his ability to sense information from objects. Almost like he's absorbing Jedi (and other force user) teachings whenever he's in contact with his history.
a great deal, but not only. he's surely powerful in the force first hand. the rest he learned or relearned during the games evolution.
I suppose there could be truth to that. I mean he learned to play a song through psychometry
@@Cobiscrisp6476that and with the time period he’s in he has all the practice he needs to practice the lessons he’s gleamed from that ability
interesting theory. i like that.
gonna set this as canon, any objections?
@@Cobiscrisp6476 He can learn fighting styles too by using that force hability, yeah that was also my point. if he learned a song just by touching the instrument, imagine in fighting skills what he learned with cere, malicos, ninth and mainly second sister, degon, bode and even Vader.
I loved Cal’s stories from Fallen Order & Survivor
Jedi survivor might be the best star wars media we've gotten in the last decade.
It is!
It is! 😱
Fallen Order >
That's not a high bar though.
@@vivi44 It is, considering Andor exists.
In canon it’s also suggested by the Grand Inquisitor that following order 66 and the near eradication of the Jedi, the force tried balancing things out by blessing the few remaining Jedi, with a major boost in force power. This would explain why characters such as Cere could grow to the point of nearly defeating Darth Vader or Cal being able to take on Dagan.
Source?
@@baki484 in the canon book Star Wars dark legends which has a story where the Grand Inquisitor reflects on one of his defeats against Jedi Padawan Kira Ventala who he originally remembered as being a weak padawan back at the temple.
@@baki484 In OT, it is often referenced that the Force is "with" Luke. Thus this makes sense indeed.
Eh, I think that’s not really reliable. Ultimately we are just seeing outliers, but those outliers already were outliers. Almost any jedi can actually reach extreme danger levels, but most don’t prioritize combat. So the few that do (Kenobi/Windu/) or who posses a greater intuition to unlocking those skills, (also windu/anakin, yoda) are way ahead.
Toss mace windu, kenobi, probably ahsoka and kit fisto, or yoda from clone wars into the same situations Cal was in, and they’d probably utterly dominate the situation.
Most of his feats that seem impressive are aoe feats mostly useful against weak enemies, but loads of jedi don’t actually need that.
@@firstnamelastname9237you are talking about Jedi masters, and a grand master. Who have trained and been trained to the highest standards. Cal is just a young man who has very limited younglin training. Everything else is self taught through trials and tribulations. Put cal into the same environment and then chances are he would excel over most Jedi masters.
I perceive Cal as a younger human version of Yoda, someone who is at its core a force user with powerful consular like abilities but trained extensively or was exposed enough to lightsaber combat to be on par with above average duelists at the very least, given the characters he defeats. (yoda being much older however can even tackle Dooku/Sidious which is peak, but I mean you can't beat how ancient Yoda's race is really, tough Yoda's lightsaber skill is more intentional)
As for Cal joining Luke's Jedi Order, one neat way to retcon him into it would be to put him into a position akin to Katarn's but throw him out into the wild on long term missions like scouring the galaxy for sith artifacts and holocrons, like jedi shadows used to, that might be a good way of saying "he was always there he just went unnoticed because he was out of camera" while giving an excuse to have a show with Cal and possibly Ahsoka and other new characters without having to literally rewrite cannon while still retconing it.
I definitely think Cal has unspoken consular qualities. He often tries to seek allies in people. And it worked wonders with Merrin. It took him going on his own journey, but he realised she was just another scared and scarred survivor, like himself. Of course, he also hears force echos in her story. I think it’s telling how much faith he puts in her, though, before fighting Malicos (a Jedi master, we should remind ourselves… Cal beat a Jedi master [with help]). He literally gives her his lightsaber. He may not have been told ‘this weapon is your life’, by Obi-Wan, but certainly he’s learned similar lessons. Besides, when his crystal broke… he had no choice but run for dear life to escape Dathomir. That weapon really was his life.
I Can't wait to play the final game of cal kestis story
I don't even want to see any spoilers. I played fallen order as everyone did even non SW fans. Survivor is a tone more serious
It exactly AM also trying to avoid spoilers
I’m so excited and nervous it can be better than both previous
Just pray that Respawn continues to keep Disney out of it.
The creative director for both Jedi games left the company, and took a lot of senior we engineers with him, so I'm at least not holding my breath on the quality of the writing for the third game, but hopefully enough of it was outlined and enough of the original staff remains for it to be good.
I wish Cal would have an appearance in some other series. And in case something happens to him in the games, I only have one arm so I never got a chance to play them.
:(
I'm sorry for your lack of a limb.
ive seen people play both console and pc with one hand before, looks insanely difficult but youd be cool af if u managed
Let Dagan Gera be your inspiration
dont let it stop you my g!
Master Jaro Tapal said:
The path is difficult
The obstacles in your path define the path
What stands in your way becomes the way!
The force will be with you my g!
I think one of Cal’s underrated feats was After restoring his connection to the force, he fought and pressured Taron Malicos in a light saber fight, Who was a former Jedi master who had turn to the Darkside and was being strengthened by the Darkside Nexxus of Dathomir. Though Cal was Inferior in the force department and needed help to defeat him.
All of the fights Cal goes in he's at a disadvantage.
Against Trilla and 9th sister his connection was blocked
Against Malicos he was in a darkside Nexus
Against dagan he was hit with an illusion and out fenced him in the their second duel.
Emotionally conflicted against Bode both times and showed superiority once no one got in his way.
Also the fact that (and no one seems to ever mention this) he stopped training in any fashion for 10 years and was separated from the force. And in the span of a few days, was able to defeat two inquisitors and a former Jedi master. Hell, the fact he didn’t just get instantly murdered by Vader should be proof alone
I can’t wait to see how powerful Jedi Master Cal Kestis is
In Survivor he's still behind Cere's level, but still he's not at his peak. Hope they don't turn him a dark jedi, but rather continuing his arc which could absolutely merge with EU Luke's Jedi Academy and turning out one of the most proficient jedi (alongside the Dathomirian force user Merrin and their adopted daughter, biological seed of Bode - all this story fits so well in Luke's EU jedi academy)
@@Maddog-xc2zv nah id love him becoming the kind of jedi that aims to understand all sides of the force. I guess thats something that could fit in the EU academy
@@simonji2940 that's a great path and yes I agree is achievable in Luke's EU academy, not on Disney Universe for sure
Any Jedi powerful enough to survive Darth Vader on multiple occasions is already enough to put someone up there with the most powerful masters of the era, even when disregarding his other feats.
He survived Vader 1 time lol. Cere is the only one who fought him more than once, and she died her second time.
Cal aint seen Vader since Fallen Order
Cal didnt face Vader in survivor.
@@LimmeLimbo Not in person but he sees him through the force echos.
That and also she was a former Jedi master who cut off her connection to the force as well
Honestly he’s by far the best part of Disney Star Wars. Nothing shines brighter than him from this era and from EA no less
Sounds like he was very similar to Luke, everything he pretty much had to learn on this own. That is the best part no dogma, learning from both sides, and learning from scratch even in the real world is better than learning from a book.
Respawn has definitely outdone themselves with Fallen Order, and Jedi Survivor. Can’t wait for the third installment (ps wish they’d make Titanfall 3. TF2 story was amazing as well)
Good work on spotlighting Cal, definitely the most relatable SW char for me. Excited for more content featuring this char.
Starkiller and Cal are my two favorite non-main characters ever!!
Pretty sure Jedi Fallen Order & Survivor are both canon
@@damonedrington3453 yeah but they aren't "main" characters
@@aouyiu Uh yes they are- and both games literally talk about Cal’s journey
I’ve been meaning to add Cal to my collection but I’ve been putting it off for five years now. Hopefully I’ll be able to find him again one day
Why?? there’s nothing wrong with him
Oh no I’ve been putting off buying him because I’ve been focused on buying other things for my collection
I don’t know at what date Jedi Survivor takes place, but it should be around the battle of Yavin.
It would be a great story if Cal became a member of GM Luke's New Jedi Order alongside Kyp Durron, Kyle Katarn etc.
They share common values and philosophies (using dark side forces without being corrupted), Cal is very versatile in force skills, he takes leadership to secure the life of a group of force skilled people, he has fought against the inquisition for many years.
He would fit perfectly into being a member Luke's New Jedi Order
If only Luke's Order wasn't doomed to bad writing that culminates in him becoming a hermit living on green milk. I think Cal would quickly exit stage left back to Tanalorr once he saw that happen.
@@The_Lucent_Archangel nah, I'm pretty sure EU Grandmaster Luke doesn’t like green milk.
Please don't remind me of that Sequel 🗑️ , I suffered PTSD after watching that trash.
@@The_Lucent_Archangel If we're lucky they start considering the games non-canon, which could make for some awesome gameplay later down the line
It’s set during the same year as the Obi Wan Kenobi series
@@simonji2940 If they did that, they might as well make TFU III while they're at it. Or don't and make it anyway.
In regards to Cal’s lightsaber skills, I’ve always been under the impression that he combined his implied talent in Form VI Niman with the simplistic blade work of Form I Shii-Cho, given that Cal was a young Padawan when Order 66 was issued and the wide sweeping attack sequences he employed.
He was with Jaro for 3 years form 1 seems to be his fallback due to his lack of confidence with form 6 after being out of practice but by end he mixed them together.
This is great. Really great. No wonder why he's so powerful. He's facing stormtroppers all the time,Sith acolytes. Trauma of Order 66. Plus everything you mentioned. He's that and so much more. Have a phenomenal day too!
Solid video glad this was brought up, just played survivor this summer and by the end of that game cal is pretty damn op
He has to be strong enough to go toe to toe with Vader in the next game, so yeah. lol
Personally hope there is no Vader cameo in the third one. They put him in everything for member berries at this point. If it's post-Empire, it might be fun to have him beat up Kylo Ren during a one-off encounter since he fancies himself the Dollar Store knock-off of Darth Vader. And he kind of deserves to get smacked around prior to his "redemption" for what he did to Han Solo. Not to mention Iden's hubby and others.
@@The_Lucent_Archangel Cal and Vader have history, plus he killed Cere. You don’t understand how storytelling works. Kylo Ren? I am greatful you have nothing to do with this series. What an awful idea.
@@AzulApe yeah but Cal would still lose, unless they want to redo all canon.
@@dariyanvalentine3564 Vader has taken L’s before. Cal just can’t kill him. Which frankly would be a full circle for him showing he’s a true Jedi. Then we can put his arc with Vader to bed and move him into other stories. Unless they want him to die, which I am not a fan of. Especially when Disney is afraid to kill Ahsoka.
@@AzulApe Yeah theres multiple bosses in the game you fight without killing them, still makes for cool fights
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I hope Cal adapts like Mace Windu and uses the dark side of the force to his advantage without being corrupted by it.
Yeah I wish Cal would figure out form 8 Vapaad like Mace once did.
Actually playing through Jedi: Survivor today! I'm about 3/4 done.
So glad theory brought me back to brodie!!! Good star wars vibes!!!
Cant wait for more great content The Stupendous Wave!
Cal is a Jedi who has learned to use his passion for good. And any sith would know that passion is power under the right circumstances of anger through the dark side. But Cal learned patience. The sith greatest downfall was being impatient. Truely, a powerful force user to reckon with
The force stays in balance, when all the lightside users died in order 66 i bet cal is the cup all that extra potential got poured into
Cal is this powerful because video game logic. More fun to have more exxagerated powers of him and the enemies.
The fact he's faced off against Vader and a High Republic Jedi is just insane and probably means he could have easily made council but they probably would have tried killing him for using the dark side to amp his already impressive natural abilities.
One of my FAVORITE Star Wars characters. I adore the games and I'm dying to see a live action appearance.
The best Jedi ever created by Disney! Love the games!!!
Honestly one of the best original Disney Star Wars characters
Cal is someone i can relate too.
He's also compassionate, and loyal to his crew, and always tries to do the thing. He makes mistakes sure but cal is still a true jedi.
You hit on the spot his story is new untold there's so much we do to new about his character that we are still diving into this was great breakdown video I cant wait to see what type of Jedi he becomes.
KAL kestis could become a truly amazing Jedi master.
Awesome Jedi and awesome video on him
Literally my thrid favorite star wars character
I think something else that's really important here, and I know there are many comments and someone has undoubtedly mentioned this: Cal had many journeys with both the night sister maren and Jedi Master cere Junda, who we already know has taught him things off screen, and while I know they don't show anything in relation to lightsaber training, I feel like she must have taught him a few things in relation to lightsaber technique, especially when you consider that their combat skills are largely similar; it's just that one of them is a Jedi master trained in the days of the Old Republic, when the Jedi were at the height of their power and skill, and the other is an incredibly powerful and didactic Jedi Knight.
Super cool topic too btw; I love this game, and Star wars with a passion I cannot describe, and I'm sure everyone involved with this channel does as well, thank you so much for making this guys 😃
I hope we see more of new and all Jedi in the new Star Wars TV series and movies like mace windu and quinlan vos
I really like Cal. His skills are not to be underestimated
Cal in Jedi Fallen Order: Aang
Cal in Jedi Surviver: Could Strife
What a transformation exquisite. 😎
Galen: Yes, in time, you'll be a legend as well.
cal, like star killer, does not limit his emotionas much as the jedi at least
combined with the psychometry his ability to learn is insane
Jedi Survivor is so amazing. Replaying it soon.
That was the smoothest way to ask for a subscription ❤
Starkiller: "Hold my beer."
“Hold my Gorog”
”Hold my ewok.”
"hold my anime protagonist power fantasy"
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@@overknightacention39 right here
A couple things to keep in mind in this analysis: 1) Most of Cal's power is amplified for gameplay and narrative reasons. 2) His lightsaber style only incorporates pieces of actual jedi training but largely consists of him filling in the gaps himself. This leaves a lot of wiggle room for one of the trickiest things to power scale in these stories, which is narrative convenience. He will only ever be as powerful as the story allows him to be; sometimes he will appear very powerful, sometimes he will appear weak and unrefined.
The safest way to scale Cal is based on what the story has told us, which is this: Cere, as a jedi master, knighted Cal formally as a jedi knight. So I would scale him for sure as a clone-wars era jedi knight, probably well past the stage at which he would take on a padawan of his own. His survival skills and force abilities are well above average, no question. But I suspect his formal lightsaber skills are roughly par at best, with their shortcomings being made up for with creativity and sheer grit. My evidence for this: he adapted a blaster into lightsaber combat- something any average jedi would never do, nor would they typically need to. It's an admission that he needs to kill in order to boost his chances of surviving an encounter.
Take in count that even before being knighted by Cere he was fighting Taron Malicos (with Merrin's help but he could still keep well), who was a jedi master that fall into the darkside. In addition, they were fighting in Dathomir. So by default Cal should a pretty strong jedi knight to do something like that. For the second game he fights enemies that aren't average, Rayvis and Dagan Gera have pretty good statements about their power. Then, even if we just limited to what the story tell us and leave aside the gameplay he still would be a pretty powerful jedi knight or maybe in the level of a jedi master or more.
I would personally place Cal somewhere around Ahsoka Tano or Darth Maul level.
I feel like Cal is such a wild card of a Jedi. That’s attributed to the game-ification of his character cuz he is, ya know, the player character. But I see him as kind of an experiment of a Jedi. What if a Jedi had a gun, what if a Jedi wasn’t restrained by the dogma of the Jedi code, and not taught what his master thought he needed, but he learned what he NEEDS to know to survive. It’s also a great diamond in the rough story.
A new video about a new topic containing new content from stupendous wave? Its Christmas
When you're someone who has faced Vader multiple times and live to tell the tale, you know You're powerful.
or exceptionally lucky.
@@dariyanvalentine3564 That too. But mad skills played a part.
@@dariyanvalentine3564 without the skill youd be dead before you have time to realize, still a fuck ton of luck involved though
StarKiller has not only faced Vader twice, but has also defeated Vader twice. Sorry to say it, but Kestis wouldn't hold a candle to StarKiller
@@vegitoblack6321 Obviously. Starkiller was Palpatine level when using the force. I think Kal is probably Yoda level.
When it comes to the survivor story, I think the mystery of bode's master may well come in the next installment, like sidious, bode was able to completely mask his mind from detection from nearby force users. He wasnt aligned at all with the inquisitors so it was likely somebody outside this realm.
The rule of two is only so when the current sith lord cant detect any other sith around except for his apprentice. The star wars universe NEEDS more independant force users that arent aligned with the normally known factions, however hazardous it is for them to exist so.
I think Cal Kestis and Legends’ Luke were evidence that Jedi Order durning the prequel were largely wrong how they train their students. The Order were trying to making them into the prefect Jedi instead of the best the version of the Jedi they wanted to be.
One of handful lessons the Jedi failed to learn from Sith Order or had but quickly forget it as never really been taught
@@thomasparque7834 Yeah the republic jedi were honestly kinda boring compared to all other timelines. I would love a show or game showing us what the jedi would look like at their peak
3:52 🤣 in my head that fall is cannon
About time there was some more lore about the famous CAL.!!!!
In my canon he indeed Joins Luke’s New Jedi Order and Becomes Its First True Jedi Weapon Master A.k.a The Next Vodo-Siosk Baas and he even befriends Starkiller (Galen Marek’s Clone)
If he continues to advance in power, and as rapidly as we've seen, I could see a very real chance of The Emperor giving Cal his personal attention. Which would be quite the show down.
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Amazing video of Cal strength in the force and light saber fighting style in Star Wars
its great to finally have cal's lightsaber form known what makes's it better is not alot of jedi mastered form 6 the only other one who mastered form 6 was exar kun
What makes it better is that he managed to make an inferior form actually work for him so well, I'd say.
Revan was also one of the best users of Niman
@@ShadowGhost0117 starkiller's clone was also a master of niman
videogame force users are always the most powerful
The greatest boost to his power is the poncho, the poncho gives him an advantage that most force users don’t have in this era.
Cal is quite skilled in Force abilities and Lightsaber combat despite not finishing his Jedi training. I really like that he is able traverse multiple planets, take on multiple stormtroopers, purgetroopers and Inquisitors as well! Cal hadn't used any of his Force skills, as well as his lightsaber for five years. Through re-connecting with the Force, he was able to get what he needed to get done on each planet and access the Holocron on Bogano. He survived an encounter with Darth Vader. Not many Jedi can say that.
I really loved the way he crushes the droids like aluminum cans of softdrinks every time he embraces his darkness, if only he learns force lightning he'd be an even more formidable opponent against the empire
In the EU you need years in using the dark side of the force to be able to use force lightning also you need to let the dark side flow through you in anger and desire to inflict pain
Cal does not use any of the 7 lighsaber forms, the only one he was probably taught was form 1 as he was so early in his padawanhood. He has a self learnt style which suits him well. He uses form 1, 4, 5, 6-ish manouvers, but neither form in particular and adds a lot of unique. His greatest strength is his high force potential and talent to wield the force in so many ways.
He was made a padawan after the battle of Geonosis (attack of the clones). His strength lies in lightsaber combat. The art of the game book for JFO confirms this. Niman being his form makes sense.
His ability to wield the force also in highly stressful situations is what Jaro taught him.
Cal overall really uses Niman the most
i feel like he became a cannon version of kyle katarn from the old jedi outcast games
Yeah! He's powerful!!
I turned him into a Purge Trooper killer and Bounty Hunter killer playing as him...
Heck... All those gamers who do no-damage videos make Cal look like a force to be reckoned with...
Love you and theory. Great video. Keep it up
Cal uses Niman but his base is in Ataru, based on his agression and physicality. Same as Jaro Tapal
Cal echo in the force ability allows him to learn with ever single character he changes paths with, like when he just started to play the music Cere's composed from the thin air. Same with fighting forms and other abilities of others he crossed blades with, including the ninth sister (although she seems a bit of pathetic and arrogant), 2nd sister, Cere, Bode, Malicos, Merrin (a powerful nightsister force user), Gera and even from the brief time he faced Vader
Cal had that main character energy!
Cals power increase from fallen order to survivor is insane. Went from struggling against inquisitiors to killing them with ease. Not to mention killing rayvis and dagan
Stances were cool - but I found that the double lightsaber was basically the best. Heavy for some units and single for others, but majority the double lightsaber. I sweared a lot in this game at the controls, enemies spamming red attacks on you, and good luck healing during combat with slow command response. The powers you unlock also felt underwhelmed or insignificant 80% of the time. I'm like "you JUST learned this, why can't you use it - dumb game". Really takes the fun out of everything these game developers. Jedi Knight Outcast & Academy remain KING.
Hopefully we get to see Cal/Cameron Monaghan in live action one day maybe after the 3rd Jedi game
Imagine a Star Wars game with both him and star killer as playable characters 🤔. It’ll never happen but it’s nice to dream😎
I’m excited to see how Cal’s story concludes in his third game! It’s being worked on and will run on Unreal Engine 5
Oh god not UE5 the frame timing and stuttering would be so bad.
@@dariyanvalentine3564 especially since Survivor was barely playable at launch
@@kaidorade1317 that's because EA was eager to profit from the game release also on PC. At the time the former Respawn (the bulk of all Jedi games - fallen order and survivor - in all chapters you might think of) CEO asked for a few months to make the game "perfect", but EA did what they do best: acting like EA.
@@Maddog-xc2zv I’m not surprised…
@@kaidorade1317 it's playable now
Idiots mentioning Starkiller when the creators of the Force Unleashed said his canonical events are in the book, where he's no where near as powerful and the only reason he was so OP on the game was to make it more fun but he's not actually that strong. He never pulled a Star Destroyer out of orbit for example, he guided one that was falling. He didn't beat Vader in the Force Unleashed novelization, he lost quite badly. Star Wars fans don't even pay attention to the media they claim to love
There's a novel of the Force unleashed?
A graphic novel too
Even in the force unleashed 2 the more powerful clone starkiller said the best he can hope for is a stalemate against Vader and was glad Vader opted to force a surrender instead of killing him outright.
Little late to the party, but this, this is the comment I was looking for. Even if Star Killer’s game power was cannon, I hate how people use Star Killer to diminish Cal’s feats
The novel is an afterthought to most fans. The games are Starkiller's main storyline, canon or not. So you can't blame people for saying Starkiller is OP when that's the primary representation of him in Star Wars.
I liked the fluid saber style he used.
I can't wait to see how powerful Cal Kestis will become in the third game especially since his powers are growing both in the light and dark side. I think in the third game the developers should have Merrin teach Cal how to properly channel the dark side without being corrupted by it because unlike the sith the nightsisters are in harmony with the dark side
because hes from a game and needed to become strong to keep player emersion
That would be cool. They need him in a film. Same with Starkiller
i liked how the dark side was used in survivor, not necessarily bad, but easy to get carried away with. it is incredibly useful but also blinding. with training in using it with moderation, one could easily offset the drawbacks. that was the implication i got.
Straight up, I would be totally find with Cal turning to the darkside in the next game and us having to take him down
The jedi games are the only good thing to come out of the Disney era
Let’s go!!!!!
The way he plays in the two games makes you FEEL his increase in power betweem the two games.
Dont get me wrong, he is no Starkiller, but he has the benefit of feeling powerful while retaining at least some belieability rather than force pulling entire star destroyers out of orbit and force crushing AT-ATs into the size of an Xbox One.
Starkiller guided an already falling star destroyer, which is still huge but not the same. Plus in canon books Starkiller is being nerfed as he was seen as much to OP in the games and got his ass kicked by Vader rather than the opposite. It's kind of a retcon, and while The Force Unleashed games are now EU, Kesti's games still canon
I just hope the third game won’t be rushed so they have time to deal with bugs
I'd love a live action movie starring Cameron Monaghan as Cal. Maybe not centered on Cal, but with him playing a significant role.
I really enjoyed the character's journey from a scared ex-Padawan, to whom a couple of stormtroopers can be a life-threatening encounter (Fallen Order), to the new legend on par with Jedi Order's high-profile heroes (Jedi Survivor) who can stand up to the worst that the Empire, or anything else can throw at him.
I agree Jedi become stronger when put under pressure.
One word..... Blaster. Enough said
EA has confirmed that a 3rd and final jedi game, it will be interesting to see the events after jedi survivor, and see him become even stronger than Cere Junda
The lightsaber I made for him is a thing of beauty 😊
Nobody compares to starkiller, but I will say playing as cal is fun
Cal is very gifted. However, in the first game he is broken and hasn’t used the force in along time and having never finished his training he wasn’t taught to hold back as much especially cuz he was being trained during war time. And after he was rediscovered he had to continue to push the limits while still reacquainting himself with the force. On the fly. Cal is also extremely adaptable and doesn’t restrict himself to one combat style as he was trained by Jaro Tapal who was proficient in all forms of lightsaber combat and then by cere who was a force to be reckoned with by herself. Jedi Survivor showed just how much he had grown in the time jump between games. And frankly they are really top notch Star Wars games in my opinion and are on par with the force unleashed in my book but that is my opinion on the matter. I know not everyone will agree with my assessment.
Could you make a top 10 most powerful non-deities characters please, I would love that.
Talked about this with a friend recently but the reason I like Cal is for the same reason I like Obi-Wan, he may not be as powerful as a Skywalker but he's still skilled and a survivor doing what needs to be done to survive he does not hesitate. Even going outside the Jedi Norm like using Blasters like Obi-Wan did when it was needed to survive. If you would to put classic Fantasy classes in Star Wars Obi-Wan and Cal I would put into the Rogue class, they are survivors and the most likely to walk away from the battle field alive, even if it wasn't a pretty get away and that Luck Stat is Maxed out.