I've been begging for Angela to come on since Shayne was here. Angela and Morgan would get along so well! They're really similar too, like the way that they mix up sayings (in cute ways, that was not a criticism)
I will say tho as a mom to a 2yr old it is almost IMPOSSIBLE to find a babysitter. I’ve had to have my husband take my brother to so many concerts or just not go to events because everyone says no.
@ why would the husband not go with? I know in my personal situation I don’t feel comfortable going to big events like that by myself because I have anxiety induced seizures & never know when I’m going to have an episode. he can usually see before I get to bad & can remove me to a safe spot.
as someone whose parents shouldn't have stayed together, I really hope we shift to "LEAVE for the kids" mentality. sometimes staying with a partner is the worst option for everyone involved.
Hell yes!! Some people don't realize that they're modeling to their kids what a relationship is supposed to look like, no matter how dysfunctional. Also, a lot of people say that but what they really mean is that they don't want to share custody &/or pay child support. Either way, it's pretty damn selfish.
For story 6: I've been the leftover friend before and it really takes a toll on your mental health. I found out my friend group of 6 years had an "og night" without 2 of us. Noticed they had a separate group chat too. Realized no matter what I did, how much I showed up for them, the many trips we went on that were highly discounted (nearly free) because of my connections meant nothing. I would always come home crying thinking why do I have so many friends and still feel sad, but never realized until that moment it was subconsciously because I knew they didn't like me. Anyway, I cut them off immediately and have never been happier.
My husband was the last of his friends to marry. We invited those close to us. We got yes's from about 200 people. We had less than 70 show up. He was hurt by it and i didnt fully understand for a while. Once i did i never trusted those people again. The wedding was local, kid friendly and essentially just an open house. Yet all of them have reached out to my husband over the years trying to get him to do things for them; repairing things, working events, showing up for their things all for free or with a gift in hand. We don't go and i just dont have the energy to care about those that dont care about me.
I read a comment on the original post saying they needed her to attend so that others would attend and honestly I find this the most convincing argument. Since they're in a small town, I'm SURE word has gotten around about how the couple got together and there's some social curse lingering above them. So if she attended the wedding, it would lift the curse, so to speak.
I always love when Ian is so humble about Smosh. He literally denied being called the brain like he wasn’t one of the creators who started in their living rooms lol
Him and Anthony definitely created it. But I don't think he wants to take the credit for a teams worth of work. Smosh in its current state would not exist if not for many of the others in front of camera or lots of the others behind the scenes.
Story 3 has me SO worked up. No warning, no time for her to plan for another support person he straight up abandoned her AND didn’t come until the next day?? I’d be done, like if you can’t be here with me on the most vulnerable moment of my life, you don’t deserve me in any other moment period.
I’m also sooooo angry. He pulled the nurse aside for a “private conversation” so the NURSE would tell his wife he’s leaving. Then tried to kiss and go “ok so see ya!” In the middle of the birth I would’ve realized that the marriage is over. I don’t think men (Ian included, sorry) realize how traumatic and scary and lonely birth can be even during a healthy pregnancy and for the husband to completely disappear is so beyond words on the depth of betrayal and abandonment that even for naturally forgiving and understanding people, it would be extremely difficult to come back from. Most woman, when our trust is gone, it’s gone.
I couldn’t imagine ever trusting him again. If our child is with him and breaks a bone?? What is he going to do run away? And the fact he never communicated with her before what else are you lying to me about
Exactly!! But also kind of bugs me that Ian is saying “I wouldn’t jump directly to cheating”… how would you not? Even the wife is saying that she doesn’t buy that he went home and fell asleep. Women trust your intuition!! If your gut is telling you something is off then it is. He made so many good points but I think he gave the crappy husband too much leniency.
That last story really hit home for me. As someone who is AuDHD, it’s so hard to make friends and it’s even harder to cope with the fact that even if you’re the nicest person in the world, even if you have known people for a long time, sometimes they just don’t like you or never actually cared for you. And with my disability, it’s harder to notice the signs that people are uninterested in me. I really hope OP is able to focus on her wedding and the friends/family who actually show up for her and can feel loved and celebrated!
As an autistic girlie, I often feel like the least favorite friend. I’ve been forgotten by friend groups at different times in life and it never really gets less hurtful. The biggest difference in each case was my reaction and the length of time I mourned the loss of each friendship. Stay strong out there, fellow forgotten/third wheel friends!
I feel you. I want friends and I'm usually the one reaching out to people but I'm also the least likely to be remembered by said friends. If you're down, would love to connect as online friends and just have casual convos
This is how I always feel but with my siblings, I don’t really have any friends lol. My siblings always hangout with each other and never invite me. It truly makes me feel so horrible about myself like I must just suck to be around or something. We all live within 25 min of each other so there’s just no reason to not even send me a text like they do with each other.
I can relate to that so much! I moved countries to live with my partner and made friends with his friends and family, but I’m never the one they reach out for as there’s no space for me there since everyone sticks to their besties etc. I’ve never quite pinned the feeling I’d get whenever I think about this but being the “least favourite friend” kinda nails it. I’m sorry to anyone who is in this situation. It’s isolating and disappointing and it sucks.
For story 3: 🚩changing passwords weeks before the baby is born🚩leaving the hospital. Women get cheated on the most when they’re pregnant and there is no excuse for leaving the hospital
Story 6: I’m that friend. I’ve been to soooo many friend’s weddings. And planned a huge party to celebrate getting my PhD. I STRUGGLED to get friends to come or even RSVP for the event. I had one group of friends for a full 15 years and only one of them showed up and left early. I’ve skipped the Halloween party this year. Will skip the Friendsgiving party and the Christmas get together. And haven’t invited them to my usual winter event. I’m tired of trying to be a friend.
Damn girl sounds like you deserve better, lots of people are in need of a friend like you who’d show that appreciation. Do your friends even thank you for setting up these events?
To the last story: I was the least favorite person in one of my friend groups. It hurt a lot and I remember often going home crying because the more we saw each other the more open they seemed to show their hostility to me. They never listened to me, would interrupt me when I was talking, would stand up in the middle of a sentence I said without saying anything and leaving the room etc. In the end I would sit there the whole evening not saying anything and just listening to them talking and also realising they would talk openly about doing stuff without me like its nothing. Would invalidate my feelings and than blame me and attack me for not watching what I do or say and therefore not "validating" their feelings. I'm now ghosting them since I am not a confrontational person and they won't even realise I'm gone anyway.
Nah for the last story, i don’t think she an unreliable narrator. She’s in a different stage of life than the rest of her “friends” and they left her in the dust because whatever life event she’s going through, they already went through and think it’s unimportant now. They are not her friends and are showing her crystal clear that she’s not a priority
@@ESPHMacD yes but if you consider that they are german it seems more likely that they would insult her based on a canadian stereotype than use a really specific and niche English word like hokey. Plus the "addict" insult comes out of nowhere if its not attached to "hockey"
For story 5, I just got a reduction this year. I was a 34ff, which is equal to a 34g. I’m 5’2, and I was 135lbs before the surgery. They HURT. I couldn’t even do dishes for thirty minutes without pain, the back pain is unimaginable for those without the experience. She is NOT the asshole
Absolutely agree. It is horrible. I will never understand why the itty bitty titty committee are wishing for this burden. I would be so happy to be part of it and have been dreaming of a reduction surgery since I was a teen. I am losing weight currently and once that journey is over if these things are not gone, I'm spending whatever money is necessary. Will save a fortune on bras after that, so it's ok.
For the childbirth one, the husband should have told the wife right away that he was worried about being there for the birth. He could have gotten into therapy to deal with his fear/anxiety. They could have coordinated with the medical team to make a plan to alleviate any issues. And if he truly couldn’t handle it, they could have plans ahead of time for someone else to be with her. And he definitely shouldn’t have left!
This! Either therapy or if it's not at all possible, make all the arrangements with family/friends/doula to make sure the one giving birth is as supported as can be. I can see there being some rare cases where it's not possible to overcome in time, but to not communicate that and do your absolute best to support from the sidelines. Like, make a full birthing playlist, record messages of support, sit in the car with food ready. There are ways to show you're supporting to the utmost of your limits while not doing it traditionally. What was happening in this story was NOT that
That's what drove me crazy! If he had mentioned it she could have planned accordingly and gotten someone else to be her support person. But he just abandoned her and made a nurse tell her!
On the breast size talk, my mom for years struggled with her breast size. Lots of back pain. When she finally had her surgery. They took off a total of 9lbs!
For that first story, when her husband said that he didn't think she'd be mad about him bringing her underwear, um...why didn't she hear about it from him then?? Why didn't he ask first? He knew she would be (rightly) upset, and hoped she wouldn't find out, and now he's trying to cover his ass. Nice seeing Ian on your channel, btw. It's awesome. :)
Never trust anyone who's excuse was "I didn't think you would mind" because that's just a cop out for the fact they knew you would mind and didn't ask to avoid you telling them not to do whatever it is. If you truly know someone isn't going to care, you let them know because you know it won't be an issue.
Ignoring the whole "coworkers" weirdness for a bit, I have had relationships in the past where my girlfriend and I would not mind that "game" and both enjoy the humor in it. But you know what? Even though I knew 100% my partner would be fine with it... we would still talk about it - to check in with each other BUT ALSO because we would have our own fun and jokes picking out what underwear to bring in. Might even bring in my hottest pair. Because there is a big difference between "I didn't think you would complain" and "OMG honey you're going to laugh your ass off at this".
The last story broke me. I am that least fav friend. When I graduated hs I went to everyone’s grad party. And when it was my turn to have one nobody showed up. It was really upsetting to me. It has been ten years and I’m still upset when I think about it too long. I am seriously considering eloping because at least then it’s my choice that nobody shows up
Solidarity for this one. I had no one show up to my 18th birthday, not even my best friend at the time. I called a few people and everyone “forgot.” My best friend and one of my other friends came over but only after I called, but it’s stuck with me for 17 years.
I got married privately with my husband obviously and his daughter. Partly for this reason. I am always there for other people but they are never there for me. So I made it about us 3. Best decision ever. We are celebrating 2 years tomorrow. ❤
My parents had a wedding with one guest. They've never had a 'friend group' in that sense, or even close family connections. That's okay. Screw the people who don't wanna come! Have fun yourself :)
Hey there! I feel for you ❤ In case you or anyone reading is interested: What I personally have found to really make a difference in meeting people I actually vibe with is attending meet-ups or groups (online or local) that share interests or hobbies. Because you already have one important thing in common and that often goes hand in hand with sharing more similarities. Don't give up hope, you might still find your people ❤ This is coming from an AuDHD person who's very familiar with feeling or being left out and has made some better connections in the last few years. ❤
I get the last story. As someone who feels like the least favorite friend, she isn’t upset about the money she’s upset about the EFFORT. Most Reddit stories with weddings have a bridezilla, but in this case- she is being accommodating. Having stuff in town, telling them really far in advance so they can prepare BECAUSE SHE KNOWS THEY HAVE KIDS It doesn’t make sense, I feel like there might be an underlying reason. Like why would THEY have HER in THEIR WEDDINGS if they didn’t like her?!?! It might be the husband…..? Or some situation she didn’t realize stuck with them. If you have a problem, don’t let it fester. Talk it over
Story 6: That's me. I have ADHD and I've always been the weird friend that gets the pity invite to things. When I had to move away because of finances, everyone stopped replying to me. After that I tried to make new friends, but people always get this "you're weird" look in their eyes. So now I just don't even try. I'm in my 40s and have one friend who lives on the other side of the continent. The person I talk the most to is my toddler. I'm a single mum. So I get it. I was always the friend who tried the hardest. Who gave the most thoughtful gifts. Only to realise that I was the pity invite all along.
Hey there! I feel for you ❤ In case you or anyone reading is interested: What I personally have found to really make a difference in meeting people I actually vibe with is attending meet-ups or groups (online or local) that share interests or hobbies. Because you already have one important thing in common and that often goes hand in hand with sharing more similarities. Don't give up hope, you might still find your people ❤ This is coming from an AuDHD person who's very familiar with feeling or being left out and has made some better connections in the last few years. ❤
Story 1: it sounds like Valerie is doing her best to survive in a boys club environment. I wouldn’t be surprised if the men were lying to their wives about them being not invited.
she's also a victim of those men. She got a black eye because a man was climbing on top of her and being inappropriate. Does that absolve her of potential bad behavior? No, but it certainly explains and shifts perspective about what she's probably enduring at work.
Story 3…. My husband is squeamish. He was there the whole time. Helped deliver our kid. He says it was the most powerful thing he ever experienced. That man in the story cheated himself from a sacred moment. Whose to say that man wont abandon his son at important childhood moments and award ceremonies. Leave him.
This is my husband too. Forget squeamish, my husband is a downright baby when it comes to medical stuff and he CAUGHT MY FIRSTBORN. It wasn’t even a 100% calm environment, baby had mild shoulder dystocia, but there he was, doing what was asked of him. I chose a specific type of birth team. I love my husband, but he made plenty of mistakes during my labor and delivery…but I knew him and planned ahead and had the right interventions in place. He wouldn’t have missed it for the world.
Story 3 is an open and shut case. OP: the woman did what was best for her. As the husband, Jake should have been by his wife's side during this painful experience. Feeling squeamish and can't handle witnessing the birth of a child? Don't freakin' leave the hospital. Be outside the operating room. Give her assurance that you're gonna endure this incredible moment together in some capacity. That's a loss of trust which will never be taken back. Using Sims logic, Jake turned the relationship from green to red instantly.
Hot take, I literally DGAF about his crybaby feelings. Why does she have to go through while he waits in the waiting room? 😂 Dudes are so weak, I swear.
@@victorywalkingtours8843 I personally would RATHER my partner stay in the room and pass out instead of wait outside - I need him there with me, no chance I’m in excruciating pain and he’s outside because “I struggle with blood and medical stuff” He needed to grow up and step up, even if it means it’s terrifying to be there, because it’s terrifying giving birth for the first time too.
The last story was so sad! I just have to say she’s got a solid guy there. My husband had actually reached out to my friends when I’m going through tough times, good men try to fix things just remind him sometimes he doesn’t have to fix everything, just listen and be there. They can be very overwhelming sometimes 😅 also YES always celebrate friends who took longer paths to love! My cousin JUST got married at 37 and I was thrilled to be there to celebrate.. and was also the only cousin invited because of the support and genuine happiness I showed.. I only found out at the wedding so it doesn’t go unnoticed ❤
Story 3 is heart breaking. Every woman deserves to have support and love while giving birth. To have someone just ghost you while you are delivering THEIR child is insane. I hope she finds someone who will be by her side through everything. Without my husband, I would have been a nervous wreck giving birth. But he surrounded me with so much love and support that I was extremely calm. I will forever be grateful for him.
I would LOVE to see Damien Haas on an episode! OH! One with Tommy would be an amazing episode too! Omfg SPENCER! I think he would have so many open-minded takes!
ugh that last story hurt as someone who has been the least favorite friend. sometimes you genuinely don’t realize that your other friends are closer to each other than they are to you and it feels like a punch to the gut when you find out. i feel for op, in my case it almost felt like i had been lied to, and imagining my other “friends” talking about me behind my back made me sick. it’s really awful.
that last story hit home hard !! 😢. that happened at my wedding too almost none of my “ friends “ came and had excuses months in advance, and the ones that did show gave no gifts 🎁 not that it’s about the gifts but it opened my eyes over the past 8 years that they weren’t true friends and i’ve walked away from those relationships ❤
Hey there! I feel for you ❤ In case you or anyone reading is interested: What I personally have found to really make a difference in meeting people I actually vibe with is attending meet-ups or groups (online or local) that share interests or hobbies. Because you already have one important thing in common and that often goes hand in hand with sharing more similarities. Don't give up hope, you might still find your people ❤ This is coming from an AuDHD person who's very familiar with feeling or being left out and has made some better connections in the last few years. ❤
Being the least favourite friend messes with your self-esteem and self-confidence so much, especially when you are young. From kindergarden to primary school, I was constantly bullied, and when I finally had a real friend group in secondary school, I think I definitely was the least favourite in the group. The fact that they all stayed in touch with each other after high school but not really with me proves it. At university, I found real, truly kind friends. It's perfectly alright that people click much better with some than with others, but if you have the feeling that they reject you for not really good reasons (for example if I had been a mean, cruel, petty, vain or unpleasant person) but for petty reasons (you're not "cool" enough in their eyes, because your interests are not considered hip, you're awkward and insecure, and whatever else) that really hurts. Thanks to the bullying in my childhood and always feeling inadequate in my teenage years, it took me years and years to work through all the low self-esteem and low confidence, anxiety and awkwardness all this had caused. Now, nearing 30, I finally feel pretty great and confident all around. But being the least favourite friend is really hard for a teenager.
Story 6: if she’s not as close as she says - why has she been at every one of their life events? Not just invited but part of the bridal party, expected to spend money, involved with their children, etc? Even if I wasn’t super close to someone, I’d be at the bachelorette dinner if they had come to mine. I’ve been to weddings of acquaintances and bought a $40+ gift still. They’re trying to send a message
My guess is that since she has no children, she has more money. She did mention spending thousands of dollars on them and since she sees herself as an aunt to their children, she might get expensive gifts for them and were willing to put up with her until now
Exactly!! My husband and I were BOTH unemployed at the time of a couple birthdays and we spent $50 on each of their gifts! This is a WEDDING, she came to their weddings, and they’re not unemployed!! They are definitely not her true friends though.
It’s more than the dollar amount. it’s the thought, time and effort that OP put into celebrating them. I believe that OP is the giver type, to a fault, and if she considers you a friend, she will go above and beyond for you. She may also be the type to see the good in people and miss red flags. OP will do herself a massive favor by cutting the all off and focus on healing from being an afterthought, whatever the friend group’s reasons are, valid or not.
10:12 Love this comment from Ian about it being strange OP seems to solely be blaming Valerie. She seems to be, unfortunately, stuck with trying and fit in with a bunch of finance-bros. Not saying she's justified, but definitely far from the only problem here.
Yes! When Morgan went onto the Smosh Reddit video, I wish they paired her up with Angela instead of Tommy. I think they're chemistry would've been amazing
Holy sht, good on the husband-to-be in the last one. That confession of the one friend on phone seals it for me. Having someone I though was a close enough friend to commit to seeing every month go "I don't care to come to your wedding because it'll be no different than any other wedding I've already been to" would break my heart in an existential manner. The way these people treat this woman is vile and fundamentally ungrateful. She's literally saying she doesn't see value in celebrating HER FRIEND'S WEDDING at all, it's literally done and dusted for her as if the OP isn't an individual person at all. Having lost so much time and money in service of these "friends" would feel like a genuine betrayal, beacause this is the sort of situation where they've shown their true colors. It's not about the money, it's clearly not about lacking opportunity due to familiar responsibilities - that's just excuses. It's about respect and being seen as an individual worthy of celebration and EFFORT. Listen, it is completely valid for people's lives to change and their capacity for extra events to decrease after marriage and kids, that's fine. Those are the kinds of things you should be open and direct about and that people should apply compassion and space for you in dealing with. But kids and marriage are NOT decent enough excuses to treat people THAT devoted to your friendship like this! Marriage and kids are not excuses to turn your back 180 or to freeze your heart to what other people still got going on in their lives. You haven't graduated life, for fcks sake, you aren't better than people not yet in the same life situation. These people CLEARLY think they've achieved some progress trophy permitting them to clock out from participating in the milestones in their loved ones' lives. God, I wish I'll never have to deal with this sort of stuck up self important "adults"... As someone behind in life in more than one aspect and very self conscious about it, being treated like this would fcking destroy me.
I related to story 6 as far as realizing you’re the least favorite friend. One story that sticks out was one time a friend reached out and invited me to watch a Dodger game at his house, he was gonna have our group over. I was the first one there, and chillin on the couch and a group of girls walks in. The girl who was my best friend at one time for over ten years saw me and with an attitude said “I didn’t know YOU were gonna be here until didn’t see YOU on the group chat” My heart dropped. I realized then I was a pity invite. That was the last time I saw those people and my life has been so much better since then!
Ugh it hurts my heart. I was always the pity invite and then when you stop talking you never hear from them again…. Hurts a bit. I wish they could just be honest with her rather than treat her differently
Story 6: how much do you want to bet that the “friends” meet up more regularly than the arrangement of once a month? I know that I usually hang out with friends who I am definitely more closer to but I still try to even everything out and try to hangout with everyone. It’s sad when friends part ways but WORSE when friends decide to part away from one person 🥺
Story 3: not the A-hole. We give men way too much credit when their actions loudly indicate that they don’t give af about you. Carrying a baby for a man for 9 months and going into labor alone is sad. I hope OP moves and recovers from being let down.
Story 5: as a fellow H cup sister I can attest that the people who have made me feel the worst about my body were other women. It’s wild to me how other women have often sexualized me more than men do and try to shame me for something beyond my control. This girl blasting OP clearly has major insecurities in herself and in her relationship. Just making herself and others miserable, so sad 😞 P.S. when they were talking about how much a boob that size weights I believe 6 pounds would be each breast. Someone I know who got a reduction from a G to a C and ended up having 7 pounds removed to get to that size.
Fr, it is mostly women who shame other women's bodies, especially when big breasts are involved. Small breasted women don't understand the discomfort. It's like when women who dont have period cramps think women who do are exaggerating.
45:51 how tf does he not get cheating vibes from that husband? He withdraws from his partner weeks before she gives birth, leaves the hospital basically as soon as she goes back to deliver their CHILD, is gone for an entire day and doesn’t answer at all, and on the way to the hospital he kept checking his phone? Like I’m sorry I wouldn’t even need any confirmation after that. I’d be gone
I’m getting red pill vibes. Some morons in the internet probably convinced him that he shouldn’t be in there and he realized how much he fucked up when she left him at the hospital. I’d leave him. I wouldn’t be coming back from that. I don’t have kids either, so my opinion isn’t “clouded” by post pregnancy hormones. He’s kind of proven he can’t be relied on.
I know I keep commenting but story 6 really gets my goat. I was a late bride in two of my important social circles and that was sincerely when I learned how much I really did mean to my friends. I cannot imagine how this poor girl must feel. I now live 3000 miles from them and every time I come home they throw a celebration! When I finally got married they all told me not to invite their kids, they didn’t want to bring them, and every last one of them showed up. I just can’t imagine this.
16:22 sounds to me like they are feeling guilty and want to look as if they’ve had your blessing/ what they did isn’t a big deal to other wedding attendees. Like “what we did wasn’t so horrible, see she even came to the wedding!” I had an ex gf leave me for my older sister. We all lived together. Fun times. But watching them try to save face with other people about how they ended up together was wild.
I’m bewildered that nobody’s talking about how he sounds EXACTLY like Justin. If I didn’t know it wasn’t Justin, I would absolutely think it was him the entire episode if I was only listening. Someone pls validate me
smosh guests are my favorite! (along with the afualo sisters of course) i definitely need a double date episode with you and justin and shayne and courtney.
I feel the story about being the least favorite friend. I was in an opera for children with my singing group (basically an easier version of an opera with songs interspersed by narration) and I was the lead, which was super exciting for me and incredibly special. My friend group were supposed to come see it, my parents were even driving them so no real effort on their part. The first one cancelled cause she had to plan her birthday party (weird that she thought about that the day of but alright). The second one was "too hungover". And then the third cancelled cause "well if the others aren’t coming I‘m not gonna either". Thanks, I feel so cherished. I was just sitting on the kitchen floor crying while my mom consoled me after hanging up the phone. I knew from that point they were not the ride or die friends they always pretended to be. I remained in the friend group cause we went to the same class, but I felt different about them from that point on. Never saw them again after finishing school either. Funnily enough I had a friend that lived really far away and she travelled over 10 hours to come see and support me. If they want to, they‘ll put the effort in. But it‘s really tough to find out people care so much less about you than you do about them. It‘s kinda fucked me up for life so that I will always question that with the connections I made since. And I still think about it over a decade later.
They’ve probably told their friends who have asked “no were on good terms, she’s even going to be at the wedding!” And now they realize they can’t convince her
Story 3 is so upsetting!!! My daughter needed emergency surgery when she was born. They whisked my partner off to sign forms and make crucial decisions I wasn’t capable of at the time. If he had acted like Jake, he would have left my daughter alone in a life and death situation. This is heartbreaking
When I had my son the nurses had smelling salts taped all around the room. My partner barely can watch scenes on tv cause he can’t handle it. That moment made us stronger. He held my hand and focused on me. He even cut the cord - even though he didn’t want to at first. He did have a panic attack and went home for a couple hours to try and relax while I was in the hospital. But he set his alarm and was back before a woke up. (His panic attack was from some complications and unknown with our son) our son is now 8 - my partner can now handle A LOT more. Becoming a parent does change you in ways you don’t even think of.
I’m soooo happy that Ian is on the show! I genuinely love his insights on Smosh’s Reddit stories and having him on here is a perfect chance to see him shine a bit more LOL. Love how cozy he looks Story 3: The fact that the husband did not communicate with his wife that he didn't want to be in the room is one thing, it is another thing to LEAVE THE HOSPITAL AND FALL ASLEEP. If he had planned on not being in the room OP could've planned to have someone else with her during the childbirth so she wasn't ALONE. I don't think I could stay with someone who had so little concern for my wellbeing, not to mention the wellbeing of our child. A million things could go seriously wrong during childbirth and he wasn't even answering his phone. This to me is unforgivable for a partner Edit to add: Morgan I need your grandma on the podcast
33:55 My first pregnancy was very difficult. I was in and out of the hospital practically every month. I went into preterm labor multiple times and the final one the doctors couldn't stop the contractions anymore so I had to give birth a month early. When they brought me into the delivery room, it was very chaotic and they asked my husband to stay outside. He was terrified and alone. He called his mom and asked if he could go to her house because there was nothing he could do but wait in the hospital lobby. His mom said, "if you leave that hospital I will disown you." So he stayed. I had forgotten about this until I heard this story.
My husband also hates going to the doctors, blood, and especially needles. I also had a complicated pregnancy and I had to have an amnio, this is getting a small amount of amniotic fluid extracted from the uterus with a very large very long needle. He was there with me, held my hand, and kept the vibe very chill. I was so proud of him lol The next day, he told me he almost passed out when he saw the needle they used. And I quote: "IT LOOKED LIKE A FUCKING WHALE HARPOON!" 😂😂😂 I would have never ever known he was panicking. I love this man.
1:37:54 this gives the energy of one of them saying “oh hey ill just buy her an air fryer” and everyone else just said “good idea say its from all of us” i doubt they even cared about the money as much as it has been implied, I think it was far less effort
i think ian was actually a super level headed guest with rational opinions. i enjoyed watching both of you cozy and reading the little gossip stories. ❤
1:08:18 I'm sorry, I am that person.😭 But I really can't hear Czechoslovakia, we are not one country since 1993 now it's Czech Republic (or at least Czechia) and Slovakia.🙈 I never thought I would be the person who needs to say that and I'm sorrry but I can't leave it be😭🤣
yeah i think its been long enough now 😅 i just yelled Hey! in the direction of my laptop from across the room, figured something needs to be said here :D
Story number 3: ummm no. I’ve had 5 kids and I have so many thoughts. lol first of all, if he knew he was going to have to leave the room he should have addressed it ahead of time so she could have someone else in the room with her like her mom or bff so she wouldn’t be ALONE! Many times labor with your first is your longest one and that’s a long time to be alone during labor (mine was 22 hours long). Also the majority of labor does not involve blood and everything. And anytime it does it would be very easy to leave the room or just stay by mom’s head. I am so confused by his excuses!! And for him to not even be worried about his wife during labor enough to literally leave and be unreachable is ridiculous. I wouldn’t be able to stay with someone who doesn’t care enough about me to at least be sitting outside the door if he couldn’t be with me. My mind is blown!
Right?!? It’s almost like he had no idea what birth was like, just blood and pushing, and figured he could meet his son another day??? Totally ludicrous!
Story 3: I can totally see that the husband is cheating, and that his side chick told him that she would leave him or out him to his wife if he stayed in the delivery room. I don’t know if I’ve been watching too many dramas, but this is giving me manipulative mistress energy.
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I could also see him all of a sudden regretting becoming a dad, deciding to leave his wife and child and then regretting it and turning back, it doesn't make him any less of a dick, but I feel like thats a possibility
For story 3, it's also hard. Even if she didnt have proof, post partum depression or post partum anxiety could be the culprit behind her spiral. I hope OP gets the support she needs. 💜
Story 5: am I crazy? Bc resting your boobs on the table is incredibly normal even for people who don’t have huge boobs, like is that not an incredibly not-unique experience? I get Ian is a guy and probably never noticed or knew about this but like I swear every person with boobs has done that idk why they’re acting like it’s insane
Literally what I was thinking! Granted I am also 5’4”, 158lbs and ALSO have a 34H bra size, but I do this constantly if the table ends up being chest height when sitting. Why not get a little pressure off my back while I’m relaxing! If I sit on the couch and cross my arms I still grab the girls and give them some extra support😂 it’s just a thing people with boobs do!
I’m an H myself (i teeter on an I) and it’s just something i do without thinking. It’s more comfortable… and i honestly think it takes some pressure off my back and shoulders. I don’t do it intentionally, but i just do it because they get in the way otherwise. I genuinely don’t think I’d even notice it if another girl did… i think we all kinda do that sometimes.
I’m an F and I do it all the time. Don’t even realize I’m doing it. Also if you’re 5’4 or 5’5 that’s just where the table hits, not a whole lot you can do it about. Also like someone above mentioned I always cross my arms when standing and I only recently realized that I was subconsciously doing fit to take some pressure off my back. Tig ole bitties are NOT all they’re cracked up to be. That dnd table sounds awesome though, other than the boob issue
I am 5'6 with size H and if someone is complaining about this they have no idea how much constant pain a lot of us big boobied girlies are in. If i have any opportunity to rest my bobbers on anything that is not my own body i take it can't lie LOL
Morgan making the "funeral" for the reduction surgery statement reminds me of that time that Smosh read a story about something similar and Ian did the same thing. They think so much alike. Great episode!!
Story 1: My husband works in tech sales and he's seen his fair share of drug use, wedding rings coming off, and other sketchy shit. However, I've met the small circle of coworkers he hangs out with and they're all really genuine and kind people who dip when things get weird (plus, the spouses are invited to hang out). So even at a workplace with a toxic culture, you can find your people. OP's partner clearly condones all that behavior. But yeah, all of the stereotypes of silicon valley tech bros / finance bros are true and probably worse than you think LMFAO
That sucks, I'm sorry that happened to you. If my husband had to play along with that kind of thing for the sake of his career I could be OK with it if he included me in the act. Like tell me beforehand what the game is and how stupid he thinks it is. It sounds like OP's husband is very much part of that toxic work culture
Last one definitely resonates with me. Sadly I've lost a lot of "friends" who were not really interested in my time but kept hiding it. Be honest with people and let's stop making excuses. No one deserves that.
1:30:27 "I think everyone should have their funeral before they die." "We should make that a new trend." Meanwhile Smosh has been doing that with their cast for years, lol.
Morgan will not stop until all of Smosh has appeared on her channel
mwhahaha
Collecting them like infinity stones lol
Morgan and Chanse would be such an iconic duo. And Morgan and Tommy. Okay. Just bring all of Smosh on!!
And we're here for it 😊
And I will be here for ALL of it!
Ian looks so cozy😂😂 he's just out here wiggling his feet and listening to stories wrapped up in a blanket😌
That was literally my though the MOMENT the camera showed him. His sweater, the blanket and the foot wiggle was just so wholesome.
@@Caelinus Same!
It's a wholesome kind of turned on a have for Ian
Ian “bummer” Hecox saying “are they in love? … that’s awesome!” about Morgan’s grandma and her husband was the cherry on top. So sweet. 🥹
Ian is so cute!!
Morgan is slowly completing her smosh Pokédex and I’m here for it
I hope the next entry is either Angela (her reactions are wild) or Damien (he’s hilarious and I love him lmao)
@@TheAdriftYESSSS
need amanda on
I've been begging for Angela to come on since Shayne was here. Angela and Morgan would get along so well! They're really similar too, like the way that they mix up sayings (in cute ways, that was not a criticism)
Damien, Spencer or Tommy for me!
“AITA for storming Normandy beach” 😭😂😂 that did not get the reaction it deserved lmao
I came here looking for this comment cause that was funny asf
Comment from Mussolini: “YTA.”
It was so good, I spat my water
1:32:35 "giiiiirrl they are not your frieeennds" he was not lying about loving wedding drama 😂
This dude looooves relationship drama. He watches so many dating shows, including other countries!
I will say tho as a mom to a 2yr old it is almost IMPOSSIBLE to find a babysitter. I’ve had to have my husband take my brother to so many concerts or just not go to events because everyone says no.
@@leeannspencer2952Why can't the husband take care of his own child while you attend a friend's wedding? Especially if it's local
@ why would the husband not go with? I know in my personal situation I don’t feel comfortable going to big events like that by myself because I have anxiety induced seizures & never know when I’m going to have an episode. he can usually see before I get to bad & can remove me to a safe spot.
as someone whose parents shouldn't have stayed together, I really hope we shift to "LEAVE for the kids" mentality. sometimes staying with a partner is the worst option for everyone involved.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Hell yes!!
Some people don't realize that they're modeling to their kids what a relationship is supposed to look like, no matter how dysfunctional.
Also, a lot of people say that but what they really mean is that they don't want to share custody &/or pay child support. Either way, it's pretty damn selfish.
Agreed 😤
1000%
Yup
Seeing Ian cozied up with a blankie is something I never knew I needed
Watch the cooking with Nana videos he did after the defy smosh shutdown. Ultimate Ian wholesomeness.
@@kristina4894 Was just watching those yesterday because I needed a pick-me-up lol
Me too! When he got all comfy and settled and shifted the blanket at the beginning of story 4 was so cute and fun.
I knew i needed it but never thought id get it 😅❤️🔥
No literally I wanna cuddle him
FIRST SHAYNE THEN COURTNEY AND NOW KING IAN???? Morgan you are truly blessing us 😻
I think Morgan and Amanda would be hilarious, I pick her next!
@@Hellosavvyy I want Angela on as well
I'm waiting on Shane,Courtney,Morgan&Justin "Double Date" podcast. It'd be so good!
@@JustMyOpinion40 "Two Hot Dates"
@cyber_akroma 🤩🤩🤩 How the HELL did I not see that?! It was RIGHT THERE! 🤣 Yes I Love it!!! Hope someone from the team sees this!!!
For story 6: I've been the leftover friend before and it really takes a toll on your mental health. I found out my friend group of 6 years had an "og night" without 2 of us. Noticed they had a separate group chat too. Realized no matter what I did, how much I showed up for them, the many trips we went on that were highly discounted (nearly free) because of my connections meant nothing. I would always come home crying thinking why do I have so many friends and still feel sad, but never realized until that moment it was subconsciously because I knew they didn't like me. Anyway, I cut them off immediately and have never been happier.
Good for u!!! Protect ur mental health ❤
My husband was the last of his friends to marry.
We invited those close to us.
We got yes's from about 200 people.
We had less than 70 show up.
He was hurt by it and i didnt fully understand for a while.
Once i did i never trusted those people again.
The wedding was local, kid friendly and essentially just an open house.
Yet all of them have reached out to my husband over the years trying to get him to do things for them; repairing things, working events, showing up for their things all for free or with a gift in hand.
We don't go and i just dont have the energy to care about those that dont care about me.
Story 2: if she goes to the wedding, it means all is forgiven and OP has given her blessing. They don’t deserve it honestly
Sounds like a setup lol. Like they’ll sacrifice her on an alter to have a good marriage. The way they were so insistent…..
Don't give them the satisfaction
Yeah they want her there to feel absolved and look good even though everyone knows what happened
This @@DiMagnolia
I read a comment on the original post saying they needed her to attend so that others would attend and honestly I find this the most convincing argument. Since they're in a small town, I'm SURE word has gotten around about how the couple got together and there's some social curse lingering above them. So if she attended the wedding, it would lift the curse, so to speak.
I always love when Ian is so humble about Smosh. He literally denied being called the brain like he wasn’t one of the creators who started in their living rooms lol
Him and Anthony definitely created it. But I don't think he wants to take the credit for a teams worth of work. Smosh in its current state would not exist if not for many of the others in front of camera or lots of the others behind the scenes.
I was literally thinking this
@@JakeyBaby6 also true
Story 3 has me SO worked up. No warning, no time for her to plan for another support person he straight up abandoned her AND didn’t come until the next day?? I’d be done, like if you can’t be here with me on the most vulnerable moment of my life, you don’t deserve me in any other moment period.
I’m also sooooo angry. He pulled the nurse aside for a “private conversation” so the NURSE would tell his wife he’s leaving. Then tried to kiss and go “ok so see ya!” In the middle of the birth I would’ve realized that the marriage is over. I don’t think men (Ian included, sorry) realize how traumatic and scary and lonely birth can be even during a healthy pregnancy and for the husband to completely disappear is so beyond words on the depth of betrayal and abandonment that even for naturally forgiving and understanding people, it would be extremely difficult to come back from. Most woman, when our trust is gone, it’s gone.
I couldn’t imagine ever trusting him again. If our child is with him and breaks a bone?? What is he going to do run away? And the fact he never communicated with her before what else are you lying to me about
Is anyone noticing he was focused on his phone while driving to the hospital? Is anyone else thinking he’s cheating?
Yeah there would be no going back for me on that one. Didn’t even give a chance to find someone else?!
Exactly!! But also kind of bugs me that Ian is saying “I wouldn’t jump directly to cheating”… how would you not? Even the wife is saying that she doesn’t buy that he went home and fell asleep. Women trust your intuition!! If your gut is telling you something is off then it is. He made so many good points but I think he gave the crappy husband too much leniency.
I love that Ian started with a disclaimer that he might act like himself during this video lol
That last story really hit home for me. As someone who is AuDHD, it’s so hard to make friends and it’s even harder to cope with the fact that even if you’re the nicest person in the world, even if you have known people for a long time, sometimes they just don’t like you or never actually cared for you. And with my disability, it’s harder to notice the signs that people are uninterested in me. I really hope OP is able to focus on her wedding and the friends/family who actually show up for her and can feel loved and celebrated!
Honestly as someone with ADHD, this story is lowkey triggering my anxiety.
ADHDer here too that last story brought me back to high school so bad 😩
As an autistic girlie, I often feel like the least favorite friend. I’ve been forgotten by friend groups at different times in life and it never really gets less hurtful. The biggest difference in each case was my reaction and the length of time I mourned the loss of each friendship. Stay strong out there, fellow forgotten/third wheel friends!
I feel you. I want friends and I'm usually the one reaching out to people but I'm also the least likely to be remembered by said friends.
If you're down, would love to connect as online friends and just have casual convos
This is how I always feel but with my siblings, I don’t really have any friends lol. My siblings always hangout with each other and never invite me. It truly makes me feel so horrible about myself like I must just suck to be around or something. We all live within 25 min of each other so there’s just no reason to not even send me a text like they do with each other.
I can relate to that so much! I moved countries to live with my partner and made friends with his friends and family, but I’m never the one they reach out for as there’s no space for me there since everyone sticks to their besties etc. I’ve never quite pinned the feeling I’d get whenever I think about this but being the “least favourite friend” kinda nails it. I’m sorry to anyone who is in this situation. It’s isolating and disappointing and it sucks.
Same
Hi fellow autistic girlie who found out she was the C-list friend! ❤
For story 3: 🚩changing passwords weeks before the baby is born🚩leaving the hospital.
Women get cheated on the most when they’re pregnant and there is no excuse for leaving the hospital
You are correct! This needs to be more widespread. Ladies - men are statistically more likely to cheat during pregnancy
It's also the most lethal time for a woman, especially in DV relationships.
I think there might be drugs involved
Ian rubbing his feet together under the blanket LMAO he’s in his element
He locked tf into his "watching Love is Blind" cozy energy.
I'm surprised more guests don't do this. This show gives off such cozy vibes.
Story 6: I’m that friend. I’ve been to soooo many friend’s weddings. And planned a huge party to celebrate getting my PhD. I STRUGGLED to get friends to come or even RSVP for the event. I had one group of friends for a full 15 years and only one of them showed up and left early. I’ve skipped the Halloween party this year. Will skip the Friendsgiving party and the Christmas get together. And haven’t invited them to my usual winter event. I’m tired of trying to be a friend.
Damn girl sounds like you deserve better, lots of people are in need of a friend like you who’d show that appreciation. Do your friends even thank you for setting up these events?
This will be me this spring/summer and anticipate a similar result ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
To the last story: I was the least favorite person in one of my friend groups. It hurt a lot and I remember often going home crying because the more we saw each other the more open they seemed to show their hostility to me. They never listened to me, would interrupt me when I was talking, would stand up in the middle of a sentence I said without saying anything and leaving the room etc. In the end I would sit there the whole evening not saying anything and just listening to them talking and also realising they would talk openly about doing stuff without me like its nothing. Would invalidate my feelings and than blame me and attack me for not watching what I do or say and therefore not "validating" their feelings. I'm now ghosting them since I am not a confrontational person and they won't even realise I'm gone anyway.
Story 3: I would have taken him off the visitation list at the hospital and contacted a divorce lawyer IMMEDIATELY
And full custody of the baby.
Based on OPs recent other posts, I think it might be fake. Honestly, best case scenario
@@medz32I too looked at OPs post and they seem to be a sex addicted man 😂
@@medz32 I came to the comments looking for this... I saw those newer posts, too
What are these newer posts people are alluding to that make them think it’s fake?? I’m fascinated!
Nah for the last story, i don’t think she an unreliable narrator. She’s in a different stage of life than the rest of her “friends” and they left her in the dust because whatever life event she’s going through, they already went through and think it’s unimportant now. They are not her friends and are showing her crystal clear that she’s not a priority
This. There’s definitely another group chat she’s not a part of too.
Very smart
Completely agree
Agree, yeah they have different lives etc but if you considered her a friend you will do everything in your power to go to her wedding
1:01:17 guys its HOCKEY!!! She meant HOCKEY ADDICT!! Cause shes CANADIAN😭😭
OMG, UR SO RIGHT! This needs to be pinned. Hokey is hockey without the "c." Wow 😂
Came to the comments for the explanation ty 😅
It definitely could be hokey, the definition of it for sure fits for how you would describe someone you think is well below you and "weird".
@@ESPHMacD yes but if you consider that they are german it seems more likely that they would insult her based on a canadian stereotype than use a really specific and niche English word like hokey. Plus the "addict" insult comes out of nowhere if its not attached to "hockey"
Omg! You cracked the code!!
I thought something was lost in translation.
For story 5, I just got a reduction this year. I was a 34ff, which is equal to a 34g. I’m 5’2, and I was 135lbs before the surgery. They HURT. I couldn’t even do dishes for thirty minutes without pain, the back pain is unimaginable for those without the experience. She is NOT the asshole
Absolutely agree. It is horrible. I will never understand why the itty bitty titty committee are wishing for this burden. I would be so happy to be part of it and have been dreaming of a reduction surgery since I was a teen. I am losing weight currently and once that journey is over if these things are not gone, I'm spending whatever money is necessary. Will save a fortune on bras after that, so it's ok.
Hi from Czechoslovakia,
Unfortunately, we broke up about 30 years ago. It's Czech and Slovakia now.😉
Came here to find this correction 😀
reddit break up story from the perspective of the soviet union please
dude i can't handle these smosh collabs.....Amanda & Angela next PLEASE 😭
imagine together 😭😭😭🙏
PLEASE
@@yurilover13that would be epic
@@itsbelela specifically the duo 😩😩
I know, right??
For the childbirth one, the husband should have told the wife right away that he was worried about being there for the birth. He could have gotten into therapy to deal with his fear/anxiety. They could have coordinated with the medical team to make a plan to alleviate any issues. And if he truly couldn’t handle it, they could have plans ahead of time for someone else to be with her. And he definitely shouldn’t have left!
This! Either therapy or if it's not at all possible, make all the arrangements with family/friends/doula to make sure the one giving birth is as supported as can be. I can see there being some rare cases where it's not possible to overcome in time, but to not communicate that and do your absolute best to support from the sidelines. Like, make a full birthing playlist, record messages of support, sit in the car with food ready. There are ways to show you're supporting to the utmost of your limits while not doing it traditionally. What was happening in this story was NOT that
I understand but it takes two to make a baby? The mother has literally no choice but to deal with the situation, the partner just has to buckle up
Yeah, I'm also uncomfortable with blood and medical procedures. I'm uncomfortable with a baby going through my vagina, can I run away too??
@@hernameispekka_Rebecca Oh my god, you're so right, there are so many things that could have been done that HE DIDN'T TRY!!
That's what drove me crazy! If he had mentioned it she could have planned accordingly and gotten someone else to be her support person. But he just abandoned her and made a nurse tell her!
I feel like this is one of the rare times Morgan feels comfortable and open enough to share her personal story time
On the breast size talk, my mom for years struggled with her breast size. Lots of back pain. When she finally had her surgery. They took off a total of 9lbs!
1:13:40 IAN LMFAOOOOO
“Am I the asshole for storming Normandy beach” MY WHOLE FAMILY SCREAMEDDDD 💀💀💀💀😭😭😭😭
For that first story, when her husband said that he didn't think she'd be mad about him bringing her underwear, um...why didn't she hear about it from him then?? Why didn't he ask first? He knew she would be (rightly) upset, and hoped she wouldn't find out, and now he's trying to cover his ass.
Nice seeing Ian on your channel, btw. It's awesome. :)
It’s giving swinger vibes 😬
Exactly, he knew it would upset her and that’s why he didn’t tell her
Never trust anyone who's excuse was "I didn't think you would mind" because that's just a cop out for the fact they knew you would mind and didn't ask to avoid you telling them not to do whatever it is. If you truly know someone isn't going to care, you let them know because you know it won't be an issue.
Ignoring the whole "coworkers" weirdness for a bit, I have had relationships in the past where my girlfriend and I would not mind that "game" and both enjoy the humor in it.
But you know what? Even though I knew 100% my partner would be fine with it... we would still talk about it - to check in with each other BUT ALSO because we would have our own fun and jokes picking out what underwear to bring in. Might even bring in my hottest pair.
Because there is a big difference between "I didn't think you would complain" and "OMG honey you're going to laugh your ass off at this".
The last story broke me. I am that least fav friend. When I graduated hs I went to everyone’s grad party. And when it was my turn to have one nobody showed up. It was really upsetting to me. It has been ten years and I’m still upset when I think about it too long. I am seriously considering eloping because at least then it’s my choice that nobody shows up
Solidarity for this one. I had no one show up to my 18th birthday, not even my best friend at the time. I called a few people and everyone “forgot.” My best friend and one of my other friends came over but only after I called, but it’s stuck with me for 17 years.
I got married privately with my husband obviously and his daughter. Partly for this reason. I am always there for other people but they are never there for me. So I made it about us 3. Best decision ever. We are celebrating 2 years tomorrow. ❤
My parents had a wedding with one guest. They've never had a 'friend group' in that sense, or even close family connections. That's okay. Screw the people who don't wanna come! Have fun yourself :)
Hey there!
I feel for you ❤
In case you or anyone reading is interested:
What I personally have found to really make a difference in meeting people I actually vibe with is attending meet-ups or groups (online or local) that share interests or hobbies. Because you already have one important thing in common and that often goes hand in hand with sharing more similarities.
Don't give up hope, you might still find your people ❤
This is coming from an AuDHD person who's very familiar with feeling or being left out and has made some better connections in the last few years. ❤
PLEASE make Ian a regular!! y’all have such good energy and back-and-forth chemistry, this is officially one of my favorite vids of yours
I thought that too are they both single?
@@bloomingnut23 no. Morgan is engaged. I’m not sure about Ian though.
@timmer13 bummer
I get the last story. As someone who feels like the least favorite friend, she isn’t upset about the money she’s upset about the EFFORT.
Most Reddit stories with weddings have a bridezilla, but in this case- she is being accommodating. Having stuff in town, telling them really far in advance so they can prepare BECAUSE SHE KNOWS THEY HAVE KIDS
It doesn’t make sense, I feel like there might be an underlying reason. Like why would THEY have HER in THEIR WEDDINGS if they didn’t like her?!?!
It might be the husband…..? Or some situation she didn’t realize stuck with them.
If you have a problem, don’t let it fester. Talk it over
Story 6: That's me. I have ADHD and I've always been the weird friend that gets the pity invite to things. When I had to move away because of finances, everyone stopped replying to me. After that I tried to make new friends, but people always get this "you're weird" look in their eyes. So now I just don't even try. I'm in my 40s and have one friend who lives on the other side of the continent. The person I talk the most to is my toddler. I'm a single mum.
So I get it. I was always the friend who tried the hardest. Who gave the most thoughtful gifts. Only to realise that I was the pity invite all along.
Hey there!
I feel for you ❤
In case you or anyone reading is interested:
What I personally have found to really make a difference in meeting people I actually vibe with is attending meet-ups or groups (online or local) that share interests or hobbies. Because you already have one important thing in common and that often goes hand in hand with sharing more similarities.
Don't give up hope, you might still find your people ❤
This is coming from an AuDHD person who's very familiar with feeling or being left out and has made some better connections in the last few years. ❤
Story 1: it sounds like Valerie is doing her best to survive in a boys club environment. I wouldn’t be surprised if the men were lying to their wives about them being not invited.
she's also a victim of those men. She got a black eye because a man was climbing on top of her and being inappropriate. Does that absolve her of potential bad behavior? No, but it certainly explains and shifts perspective about what she's probably enduring at work.
@@danaslitlist1 100%
I would want a 1:1 conversation with her. she is probably the only one who could out their drunken secrets.
Or ganged up on husbands who did not mind. Otherwise they'd have to wriggle out of explicitly saying they did not want her there and why
YES! It felt crazy that the OP labeled her a pickme
Story 3…. My husband is squeamish. He was there the whole time. Helped deliver our kid. He says it was the most powerful thing he ever experienced. That man in the story cheated himself from a sacred moment. Whose to say that man wont abandon his son at important childhood moments and award ceremonies. Leave him.
150% leave him.
This is my husband too. Forget squeamish, my husband is a downright baby when it comes to medical stuff and he CAUGHT MY FIRSTBORN. It wasn’t even a 100% calm environment, baby had mild shoulder dystocia, but there he was, doing what was asked of him. I chose a specific type of birth team. I love my husband, but he made plenty of mistakes during my labor and delivery…but I knew him and planned ahead and had the right interventions in place. He wouldn’t have missed it for the world.
Story 3 is an open and shut case. OP: the woman did what was best for her. As the husband, Jake should have been by his wife's side during this painful experience. Feeling squeamish and can't handle witnessing the birth of a child? Don't freakin' leave the hospital. Be outside the operating room. Give her assurance that you're gonna endure this incredible moment together in some capacity. That's a loss of trust which will never be taken back.
Using Sims logic, Jake turned the relationship from green to red instantly.
Hot take, I literally DGAF about his crybaby feelings. Why does she have to go through while he waits in the waiting room? 😂 Dudes are so weak, I swear.
@@victorywalkingtours8843 I personally would RATHER my partner stay in the room and pass out instead of wait outside - I need him there with me, no chance I’m in excruciating pain and he’s outside because “I struggle with blood and medical stuff” He needed to grow up and step up, even if it means it’s terrifying to be there, because it’s terrifying giving birth for the first time too.
@@stuffystuffsityas6302 Yeah, going to the waiting room would be divorce worthy for me
@@victorywalkingtours8843 Thisssss. She can't opt out - neither can you.
I love the sims logic😂
The last story was so sad! I just have to say she’s got a solid guy there. My husband had actually reached out to my friends when I’m going through tough times, good men try to fix things just remind him sometimes he doesn’t have to fix everything, just listen and be there. They can be very overwhelming sometimes 😅 also YES always celebrate friends who took longer paths to love! My cousin JUST got married at 37 and I was thrilled to be there to celebrate.. and was also the only cousin invited because of the support and genuine happiness I showed.. I only found out at the wedding so it doesn’t go unnoticed ❤
Story 3 is heart breaking. Every woman deserves to have support and love while giving birth. To have someone just ghost you while you are delivering THEIR child is insane. I hope she finds someone who will be by her side through everything.
Without my husband, I would have been a nervous wreck giving birth. But he surrounded me with so much love and support that I was extremely calm. I will forever be grateful for him.
"am I the asshole for storming Normandy Beach" absolutely unhinged
Classic Ian humour 😂
NTA lollll
I wish Morgan would of laughed harder bc that was so funny
I would LOVE to see Damien Haas on an episode!
OH! One with Tommy would be an amazing episode too!
Omfg SPENCER! I think he would have so many open-minded takes!
@@JosenDuff Everyone here should watch Perfect Person. He has had Spencer, Angela, Damien, Courtney, and Shayne and Amanda.
@@MomoBobathanks for my next 🐇 🕳.
Yes! Damien is always great with breaking down crazy human behavior😊
And Arasha. She and Damien always have the most empathetic advice in the Reddit videos
YES
ugh that last story hurt as someone who has been the least favorite friend. sometimes you genuinely don’t realize that your other friends are closer to each other than they are to you and it feels like a punch to the gut when you find out. i feel for op, in my case it almost felt like i had been lied to, and imagining my other “friends” talking about me behind my back made me sick. it’s really awful.
that last story hit home hard !! 😢. that happened at my wedding too almost none of my “ friends “ came and had excuses months in advance, and the ones that did show gave no gifts 🎁 not that it’s about the gifts but it opened my eyes over the past 8 years that they weren’t true friends and i’ve walked away from those relationships ❤
Hey there!
I feel for you ❤
In case you or anyone reading is interested:
What I personally have found to really make a difference in meeting people I actually vibe with is attending meet-ups or groups (online or local) that share interests or hobbies. Because you already have one important thing in common and that often goes hand in hand with sharing more similarities.
Don't give up hope, you might still find your people ❤
This is coming from an AuDHD person who's very familiar with feeling or being left out and has made some better connections in the last few years. ❤
Being the least favourite friend messes with your self-esteem and self-confidence so much, especially when you are young. From kindergarden to primary school, I was constantly bullied, and when I finally had a real friend group in secondary school, I think I definitely was the least favourite in the group. The fact that they all stayed in touch with each other after high school but not really with me proves it. At university, I found real, truly kind friends. It's perfectly alright that people click much better with some than with others, but if you have the feeling that they reject you for not really good reasons (for example if I had been a mean, cruel, petty, vain or unpleasant person) but for petty reasons (you're not "cool" enough in their eyes, because your interests are not considered hip, you're awkward and insecure, and whatever else) that really hurts. Thanks to the bullying in my childhood and always feeling inadequate in my teenage years, it took me years and years to work through all the low self-esteem and low confidence, anxiety and awkwardness all this had caused. Now, nearing 30, I finally feel pretty great and confident all around. But being the least favourite friend is really hard for a teenager.
Story 6: if she’s not as close as she says - why has she been at every one of their life events? Not just invited but part of the bridal party, expected to spend money, involved with their children, etc? Even if I wasn’t super close to someone, I’d be at the bachelorette dinner if they had come to mine. I’ve been to weddings of acquaintances and bought a $40+ gift still. They’re trying to send a message
My guess is that since she has no children, she has more money. She did mention spending thousands of dollars on them and since she sees herself as an aunt to their children, she might get expensive gifts for them and were willing to put up with her until now
Thank you! I didn’t like his response to it. He doesn’t understand girls lol
@@i_watch_youtube997that’s a good point
Exactly!! My husband and I were BOTH unemployed at the time of a couple birthdays and we spent $50 on each of their gifts! This is a WEDDING, she came to their weddings, and they’re not unemployed!! They are definitely not her true friends though.
It’s more than the dollar amount. it’s the thought, time and effort that OP put into celebrating them. I believe that OP is the giver type, to a fault, and if she considers you a friend, she will go above and beyond for you. She may also be the type to see the good in people and miss red flags. OP will do herself a massive favor by cutting the all off and focus on healing from being an afterthought, whatever the friend group’s reasons are, valid or not.
10:12 Love this comment from Ian about it being strange OP seems to solely be blaming Valerie. She seems to be, unfortunately, stuck with trying and fit in with a bunch of finance-bros. Not saying she's justified, but definitely far from the only problem here.
Shane, Courtney, and Ian?? We need Angela next, Her reactions are so wild 🤣
Yes Angela or Noah. I love when Noah is on he is so funny and blunt
Omg! I love Angela she'd be funny😂
Yes! When Morgan went onto the Smosh Reddit video, I wish they paired her up with Angela instead of Tommy. I think they're chemistry would've been amazing
@@AmburAlert90 oh...not the genocide supporter...
@@ollie3746 Noah is pro Israel?
Holy sht, good on the husband-to-be in the last one. That confession of the one friend on phone seals it for me. Having someone I though was a close enough friend to commit to seeing every month go "I don't care to come to your wedding because it'll be no different than any other wedding I've already been to" would break my heart in an existential manner. The way these people treat this woman is vile and fundamentally ungrateful. She's literally saying she doesn't see value in celebrating HER FRIEND'S WEDDING at all, it's literally done and dusted for her as if the OP isn't an individual person at all. Having lost so much time and money in service of these "friends" would feel like a genuine betrayal, beacause this is the sort of situation where they've shown their true colors. It's not about the money, it's clearly not about lacking opportunity due to familiar responsibilities - that's just excuses. It's about respect and being seen as an individual worthy of celebration and EFFORT. Listen, it is completely valid for people's lives to change and their capacity for extra events to decrease after marriage and kids, that's fine. Those are the kinds of things you should be open and direct about and that people should apply compassion and space for you in dealing with. But kids and marriage are NOT decent enough excuses to treat people THAT devoted to your friendship like this! Marriage and kids are not excuses to turn your back 180 or to freeze your heart to what other people still got going on in their lives. You haven't graduated life, for fcks sake, you aren't better than people not yet in the same life situation. These people CLEARLY think they've achieved some progress trophy permitting them to clock out from participating in the milestones in their loved ones' lives. God, I wish I'll never have to deal with this sort of stuck up self important "adults"... As someone behind in life in more than one aspect and very self conscious about it, being treated like this would fcking destroy me.
1:13:44 Ian has me dead. “Am i the asshole for storming Normandy Beach?” 😭😭😂
I related to story 6 as far as realizing you’re the least favorite friend. One story that sticks out was one time a friend reached out and invited me to watch a Dodger game at his house, he was gonna have our group over. I was the first one there, and chillin on the couch and a group of girls walks in. The girl who was my best friend at one time for over ten years saw me and with an attitude said “I didn’t know YOU were gonna be here until didn’t see YOU on the group chat”
My heart dropped. I realized then I was a pity invite. That was the last time I saw those people and my life has been so much better since then!
Ugh it hurts my heart. I was always the pity invite and then when you stop talking you never hear from them again…. Hurts a bit. I wish they could just be honest with her rather than treat her differently
Damn, I remember always hearing “I guess she can come too”, yeah no thank you, I’m fine not going.
It makes me kind of sad that was like somehow blaming the OP in that story though. Like how is it? Her fault that these people are just rude.
Been here. Felt super shitty. I’m sorry you had to go through that.
@@Autumn_Victoriahe was reaching so hard to blame her in some way it gave former snake vibes
Story 6: how much do you want to bet that the “friends” meet up more regularly than the arrangement of once a month? I know that I usually hang out with friends who I am definitely more closer to but I still try to even everything out and try to hangout with everyone. It’s sad when friends part ways but WORSE when friends decide to part away from one person 🥺
Story 3: not the A-hole. We give men way too much credit when their actions loudly indicate that they don’t give af about you. Carrying a baby for a man for 9 months and going into labor alone is sad. I hope OP moves and recovers from being let down.
So true! He had 9+ months to communicate that discomfort, the way it happened she had no choice but to accept that pain.
Story 5: as a fellow H cup sister I can attest that the people who have made me feel the worst about my body were other women. It’s wild to me how other women have often sexualized me more than men do and try to shame me for something beyond my control. This girl blasting OP clearly has major insecurities in herself and in her relationship. Just making herself and others miserable, so sad 😞
P.S. when they were talking about how much a boob that size weights I believe 6 pounds would be each breast. Someone I know who got a reduction from a G to a C and ended up having 7 pounds removed to get to that size.
Fr, it is mostly women who shame other women's bodies, especially when big breasts are involved. Small breasted women don't understand the discomfort. It's like when women who dont have period cramps think women who do are exaggerating.
45:51 how tf does he not get cheating vibes from that husband? He withdraws from his partner weeks before she gives birth, leaves the hospital basically as soon as she goes back to deliver their CHILD, is gone for an entire day and doesn’t answer at all, and on the way to the hospital he kept checking his phone? Like I’m sorry I wouldn’t even need any confirmation after that. I’d be gone
Unfortunately if you go to the OPs profile it doesn't matter, just a fake story 😢
I’m getting red pill vibes. Some morons in the internet probably convinced him that he shouldn’t be in there and he realized how much he fucked up when she left him at the hospital. I’d leave him. I wouldn’t be coming back from that. I don’t have kids either, so my opinion isn’t “clouded” by post pregnancy hormones. He’s kind of proven he can’t be relied on.
@@HA-lg1lcIt is??
2 hours of Ian?? Bless you for this Morgan! 🥹
I know I keep commenting but story 6 really gets my goat. I was a late bride in two of my important social circles and that was sincerely when I learned how much I really did mean to my friends. I cannot imagine how this poor girl must feel. I now live 3000 miles from them and every time I come home they throw a celebration! When I finally got married they all told me not to invite their kids, they didn’t want to bring them, and every last one of them showed up. I just can’t imagine this.
You are a lucky woman 😊
cozy ian kicking his lil tootsies under the blanket is a vibe
16:22 sounds to me like they are feeling guilty and want to look as if they’ve had your blessing/ what they did isn’t a big deal to other wedding attendees. Like “what we did wasn’t so horrible, see she even came to the wedding!” I had an ex gf leave me for my older sister. We all lived together. Fun times. But watching them try to save face with other people about how they ended up together was wild.
Lol should’ve watched for a couple more seconds. What they said 👌🏼
I’m bewildered that nobody’s talking about how he sounds EXACTLY like Justin. If I didn’t know it wasn’t Justin, I would absolutely think it was him the entire episode if I was only listening. Someone pls validate me
i really hope Damien gets invited as a guest one day omg
I do too!! Or Tommy!! I loved their vibe together on Morgan's episode on Smosh!
U should watch Perfect Person. He has had Spencer, Angela, Damien, Courtney, and Shayne and Amanda.
@@MomoBoba wow really?? What's his podcast about??
Yes please!!! Damien is a FAVE!
Ian snuggled up in that blanket, but also the same person that PBL'ed Shanye is crazy
What do you think the blanket's there for?
Smosh /THT reddit is becoming my favorite. I need Damien, Angela, Tommy, Amanda, Chanse and Spencer on here next !!
smosh guests are my favorite! (along with the afualo sisters of course) i definitely need a double date episode with you and justin and shayne and courtney.
I feel the story about being the least favorite friend. I was in an opera for children with my singing group (basically an easier version of an opera with songs interspersed by narration) and I was the lead, which was super exciting for me and incredibly special. My friend group were supposed to come see it, my parents were even driving them so no real effort on their part.
The first one cancelled cause she had to plan her birthday party (weird that she thought about that the day of but alright). The second one was "too hungover". And then the third cancelled cause "well if the others aren’t coming I‘m not gonna either". Thanks, I feel so cherished. I was just sitting on the kitchen floor crying while my mom consoled me after hanging up the phone.
I knew from that point they were not the ride or die friends they always pretended to be. I remained in the friend group cause we went to the same class, but I felt different about them from that point on. Never saw them again after finishing school either.
Funnily enough I had a friend that lived really far away and she travelled over 10 hours to come see and support me. If they want to, they‘ll put the effort in. But it‘s really tough to find out people care so much less about you than you do about them. It‘s kinda fucked me up for life so that I will always question that with the connections I made since. And I still think about it over a decade later.
The way Ian forgot about the episode where the office worker with the camera in her office updated and found out that smosh read her story
I was thinking the same thing!
Story2: They are definitely downloading apps to get new numbers to text from. It is probably the couple pretending to be the guests of the wedding.
That's what Im thinking
They’ve probably told their friends who have asked “no were on good terms, she’s even going to be at the wedding!” And now they realize they can’t convince her
"am i the asshole for storming normandy beach?" classic ian hecox there, babyyy
Story 3 is so upsetting!!! My daughter needed emergency surgery when she was born. They whisked my partner off to sign forms and make crucial decisions I wasn’t capable of at the time. If he had acted like Jake, he would have left my daughter alone in a life and death situation. This is heartbreaking
When I had my son the nurses had smelling salts taped all around the room. My partner barely can watch scenes on tv cause he can’t handle it. That moment made us stronger. He held my hand and focused on me. He even cut the cord - even though he didn’t want to at first. He did have a panic attack and went home for a couple hours to try and relax while I was in the hospital. But he set his alarm and was back before a woke up. (His panic attack was from some complications and unknown with our son) our son is now 8 - my partner can now handle A LOT more. Becoming a parent does change you in ways you don’t even think of.
I’m soooo happy that Ian is on the show! I genuinely love his insights on Smosh’s Reddit stories and having him on here is a perfect chance to see him shine a bit more LOL. Love how cozy he looks
Story 3: The fact that the husband did not communicate with his wife that he didn't want to be in the room is one thing, it is another thing to LEAVE THE HOSPITAL AND FALL ASLEEP. If he had planned on not being in the room OP could've planned to have someone else with her during the childbirth so she wasn't ALONE. I don't think I could stay with someone who had so little concern for my wellbeing, not to mention the wellbeing of our child. A million things could go seriously wrong during childbirth and he wasn't even answering his phone. This to me is unforgivable for a partner
Edit to add: Morgan I need your grandma on the podcast
“Thats a weird thing to do with your coworkers.” Coming from Ian is wild
Like we don’t remember the “submissive and breedable” video
@@Imjustkendall Honestly I was thinking of the breast milk saga
Big difference between doing something on camera that was agreed to beforehand and is clearly a bit than sniffing your coworkers' wives' underwear 🤨
NO WAYYYYYY OMGGGG!!!!!!!! Morgan ur toooo kind ! WE NEED AN EPISODE WITH BOTH AMANDA AND ANGELA AT THE SAME TIME NOW
YES I was just thinking this!!
YES
Here to add. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT
33:55 My first pregnancy was very difficult. I was in and out of the hospital practically every month. I went into preterm labor multiple times and the final one the doctors couldn't stop the contractions anymore so I had to give birth a month early. When they brought me into the delivery room, it was very chaotic and they asked my husband to stay outside. He was terrified and alone. He called his mom and asked if he could go to her house because there was nothing he could do but wait in the hospital lobby. His mom said, "if you leave that hospital I will disown you." So he stayed. I had forgotten about this until I heard this story.
1:52:18 “Finance people, are you okay?”
No. No we’re not. 😂
My husband also hates going to the doctors, blood, and especially needles. I also had a complicated pregnancy and I had to have an amnio, this is getting a small amount of amniotic fluid extracted from the uterus with a very large very long needle. He was there with me, held my hand, and kept the vibe very chill. I was so proud of him lol The next day, he told me he almost passed out when he saw the needle they used. And I quote: "IT LOOKED LIKE A FUCKING WHALE HARPOON!" 😂😂😂 I would have never ever known he was panicking. I love this man.
His comment is hilarious and his support warms my heart. Love that for you & your family 🥰
Ok so THT is officially part of the Smosh Universe now!
Morgan and Ian being such pals was not on my bingo card but it's awesome!!
Right? I saw them in some pictures recently at an event with Shayne so just assumed it was regular creator schmoozing. But playing Catan together?
1:37:54 this gives the energy of one of them saying “oh hey ill just buy her an air fryer” and everyone else just said “good idea say its from all of us” i doubt they even cared about the money as much as it has been implied, I think it was far less effort
i think ian was actually a super level headed guest with rational opinions. i enjoyed watching both of you cozy and reading the little gossip stories. ❤
52:20 the worst part for me: seems certain that her father treated her mom the same way. The mom saying she is overrreacting is heartbreaking.
1:08:18 I'm sorry, I am that person.😭 But I really can't hear Czechoslovakia, we are not one country since 1993 now it's Czech Republic (or at least Czechia) and Slovakia.🙈 I never thought I would be the person who needs to say that and I'm sorrry but I can't leave it be😭🤣
Ikr 😂😂😂😂 I was like that so old... It's not called that for like decades
I hoped to find this comment! At least I’m not alone being frustrated with it. I live in Slovakia
yeah i think its been long enough now 😅 i just yelled Hey! in the direction of my laptop from across the room, figured something needs to be said here :D
@@alexzhukova7637 ikr 😅
meanwhile I'm crying in "she... didn't think east germany just means, like, near the border... right?" 😭
Story number 3: ummm no. I’ve had 5 kids and I have so many thoughts. lol first of all, if he knew he was going to have to leave the room he should have addressed it ahead of time so she could have someone else in the room with her like her mom or bff so she wouldn’t be ALONE! Many times labor with your first is your longest one and that’s a long time to be alone during labor (mine was 22 hours long). Also the majority of labor does not involve blood and everything. And anytime it does it would be very easy to leave the room or just stay by mom’s head. I am so confused by his excuses!! And for him to not even be worried about his wife during labor enough to literally leave and be unreachable is ridiculous. I wouldn’t be able to stay with someone who doesn’t care enough about me to at least be sitting outside the door if he couldn’t be with me. My mind is blown!
Right?!? It’s almost like he had no idea what birth was like, just blood and pushing, and figured he could meet his son another day??? Totally ludicrous!
I would not put his name on the birth certificate!!!!
@robynvanhorn I was thinking the same thing. His names not going on the certificate and I'd divorce him immediately
I am loving the two hot takes x smosh collabs 😍 would love to see Amanda or Damien on here next
"i think about dying daily"
"oh, don't do that"
@ 1:30:06 really made me cackle 😂
morgan and ian have the perfect dynamic to talk about the weird things they talk about. all those freaky facts and stories lmao
Story 3: I can totally see that the husband is cheating, and that his side chick told him that she would leave him or out him to his wife if he stayed in the delivery room. I don’t know if I’ve been watching too many dramas, but this is giving me manipulative mistress energy.
I could also see him all of a sudden regretting becoming a dad, deciding to leave his wife and child and then regretting it and turning back, it doesn't make him any less of a dick, but I feel like thats a possibility
Ian is so chill and calming honestly. The type of guy you feel safe around 🤗
For story 3, it's also hard. Even if she didnt have proof, post partum depression or post partum anxiety could be the culprit behind her spiral. I hope OP gets the support she needs. 💜
One day little Charles gonna be like “mommy where aunty OP she gave the best presents.”
morgan i need you to realize you posted this on the same day smosh posted an hour long “who memed it” video … i am ALIVEEEEEE
Story 5: am I crazy? Bc resting your boobs on the table is incredibly normal even for people who don’t have huge boobs, like is that not an incredibly not-unique experience? I get Ian is a guy and probably never noticed or knew about this but like I swear every person with boobs has done that idk why they’re acting like it’s insane
Literally what I was thinking! Granted I am also 5’4”, 158lbs and ALSO have a 34H bra size, but I do this constantly if the table ends up being chest height when sitting. Why not get a little pressure off my back while I’m relaxing! If I sit on the couch and cross my arms I still grab the girls and give them some extra support😂 it’s just a thing people with boobs do!
I’m an H myself (i teeter on an I) and it’s just something i do without thinking. It’s more comfortable… and i honestly think it takes some pressure off my back and shoulders. I don’t do it intentionally, but i just do it because they get in the way otherwise. I genuinely don’t think I’d even notice it if another girl did… i think we all kinda do that sometimes.
I’m an F and I do it all the time. Don’t even realize I’m doing it. Also if you’re 5’4 or 5’5 that’s just where the table hits, not a whole lot you can do it about. Also like someone above mentioned I always cross my arms when standing and I only recently realized that I was subconsciously doing fit to take some pressure off my back. Tig ole bitties are NOT all they’re cracked up to be. That dnd table sounds awesome though, other than the boob issue
I’m 5’3 and between H and I. It’s crazy they’re acting like size H is insane! And I have rested my chest on a table since I was a size C or D…
I am 5'6 with size H and if someone is complaining about this they have no idea how much constant pain a lot of us big boobied girlies are in. If i have any opportunity to rest my bobbers on anything that is not my own body i take it can't lie LOL
Ok, love Ian. But I NEED some spooky Reddit stories 😭👻
Next weeeeek :)
Watch Damien be the guest
Damien!
Morgan making the "funeral" for the reduction surgery statement reminds me of that time that Smosh read a story about something similar and Ian did the same thing. They think so much alike. Great episode!!
Ian’s comment on story 2. “You fell asleep sir?” Anyone else get friends vibes of Rachel “ YOU FELL ASLEEEEP?!”
From 2 employees straight to the boss is crazy lol. Thank you so much doing these fun collabs 😄
Story 1: My husband works in tech sales and he's seen his fair share of drug use, wedding rings coming off, and other sketchy shit. However, I've met the small circle of coworkers he hangs out with and they're all really genuine and kind people who dip when things get weird (plus, the spouses are invited to hang out). So even at a workplace with a toxic culture, you can find your people. OP's partner clearly condones all that behavior.
But yeah, all of the stereotypes of silicon valley tech bros / finance bros are true and probably worse than you think LMFAO
7:33 I was just passed on a promotion at work because I "don't join in with out-of-work activities". I don't like joining other men in these "games".
That sucks, I'm sorry that happened to you. If my husband had to play along with that kind of thing for the sake of his career I could be OK with it if he included me in the act. Like tell me beforehand what the game is and how stupid he thinks it is. It sounds like OP's husband is very much part of that toxic work culture
Were you actually told that? If so id be looking into employment laws in your area. In many places that’s illegal.
Last one definitely resonates with me. Sadly I've lost a lot of "friends" who were not really interested in my time but kept hiding it. Be honest with people and let's stop making excuses. No one deserves that.
1:30:27 "I think everyone should have their funeral before they die." "We should make that a new trend." Meanwhile Smosh has been doing that with their cast for years, lol.