For story 3 update: The last four words of each of the previous 4 paragraphs are: Just so you know. He will read this. Love alone isn't enough. And sometimes involves divorce. My interpretation: She doesn't want to directly say she'll divorce him because there's a chance he will read/hear about it. This is probably because of either safety reasons for her and her daughter or because she wants to get her ducks in a row legally before presenting him with divorce papers. Or both.
Story 3: Ok, so watching the video and hearing the story for the second time made me think of something: Could he be stealing and taking some of her meds? When the details of him organising her meds, and having dropped whole bottles on the floor, could be a deliberate act to excuse some of the pills going missing. With the kind of injuries and the condition OP describes, I think we can assume she is on some pain meds, if not hefty pain meds like opiates.
THIS!!! IMO I think he wants to hurt his daughter or at least is willing to because he desperately wants to hurt OP as much as possible in every way possible. I think he is willing to risk putting the child in danger or the possibility of danger so he can hurt/torment OP… for example him leaving the door open when the child is old enough to get up and walk out I think he did that because he’s hoping that he would see that and it would do exactly what happened… give her pretty much a panic attack over the “What if” and he is so willing to hurt her that he’s also OK with the situations possibly not being a what if and actually happening… which is horrifying. I personally believe if he didn’t mean this, or this wasn’t a motivator, that he would also be extremely upset and angry with himself… he takes his video games and streaming on TikTok live more seriously than he takes his daughters safety and life
The guy LITERALLY just wants to get the money, he just wanted to play safe until literally he got the chance to not care anymore and even cause her harm. He actually uses Weaponized Incompetence to make her life MISERABLE, sometimes things don't have to be beneficial for him, just fucked up FOR HER. I'm very scared for her life 😢.
Story 3. Something is up.. i honestly think that man is on drugs or drinking. He is hiding in that garage, he is checked out of his relationship, and he seems resentful of his partner tbh.
Or he resents her for being successful. She has a well-paid job and a house. He makes "mistakes" only with her stuff or their daughters stuff. I would even say that he is trying to hurt her. The medicines, the door, the diary, and the pot on the stove are dangerous situations.
I think he’s resentful, he doesn’t act like he loves his daughter. He wants a divorce, but since he can’t get anything from it, he knows that its the most plausible to manipulate op into divorcing him and guilt trip her into giving him something. He wants to divorce her, because as she said, she will eventually need a wheelchair, and he doesn’t want to be stuck as the provider/care giver. He wants to take what he can and move on to the next victim.
As someone chronically ill, story 3 is my BIGGEST nightmare. To have someone say something along the lines of "I'm messed up in the head for choosing to love you" would kill me as I'm afraid of being a burden or a regret for my partner
Yes its ironic how he sees her as the liability, while he as far as we know) suffers zero difficulties, but she supports him & their child anyways. Yes mistakes do happen, but it was someone’s careless mistake that changed her life forever. Why must she have to accept more careless mistakes on top of that. If it can’t be explained by a medical professional, there’s something darker going on. She’s supporting him like a pet that’s always chewing up her slippers, and he barely even acknowledges her existence.
That really wrecked me hearing him say that to her. It sounded like he was on the right track to reconciliation, them he emotionally crashed his car into the garage. I'm sorry. If it was me, I'd immediately end it with him after that. Medical issues or not, that level of disrespect cannot stand.
@ikigaime3158 if my husband ever said that to me, I'd end it immediately. I have chronic pain do to degenerative disc disease. I have multiple herniated discs, arthritis, chronic fatigue syndrome, and deal with depression from all of those issues. My drs have been begging me to quit teaching dance because it's so hard on my body. But I refuse because it's the only thing that keeps me sane, and it makes me feel like I'm contributing to the household. If hubby ever commented on my health, it would absolutely crush me.
that third guy saying “let me pay back $11,000 with $50 a month… he just signed himself up for staying in OPs house for longer because he’s “working” on paying everything back😬🤦♀️ i’m not done with this story but i genuinely hope she leaves him. this feels manipulative
For the third story, someone in the comments was saying that he was probably going back to the store multiple times to buy more alcohol, people were theorizing he has an alcohol problem and that his carelessness was actually him being drunk
That’s what I was thinking! Either a brain issue (tumor, etc) or an addiction issue. It’s just such a rapid attitude/behavior change that I can’t imagine it being something else
Story 3: Unwilling to communicate and unwilling to go to the doctor. Kick him out, lock the doors TONIGHT. Divorce. He could litteraly make a fatal mistake, towards you and your daughter.
The whole story didn’t make me angry bc after the first few examples I was already done. Idk how op survived this long especially when it comes to her and her baby’s health. Just, absolutely not. Not tolerating incompetence
@@rachelprose400 maybe make him get a job before going for a divorce so she can pay less. And if they don't touch the settlement money and she gets the custody she can get by pretty well
@@bunjistee omg it reminds me of the story of the guy that gets conveniently clumsy around his girlfriend and only his girlfriend ans turns out he was doing it on purpose when a friend tried to “stop” him
story 4: As the oldest daughter i can 100% say that the sister shielded her brother. Not only that but when her parents were drunk and high, who was taking care of OP? Yes exactly she was. She gave up her childhood to be mom to her little brother and for that she is angry with her parents. He is proud of them for being clean but he had a much easier childhood than his sister who had no one taking care of her or comforting her. She didn’t find that until she met the professor and now the one person who took care of her and comforted her and protected her is gone. I feel so bad for his sister because she didn’t have the opportunity to be a little girl but her brother did because she gave that to him. She will probably need therapy to let go of the hurt that she has but if her parents dont acknowledge the damage they have caused, they will never have a relationship. Wishing nothing but healing for all the oldest daughters of the world. Your work does not go unnoticed ladies. You are appreciated. Somehow writing this post has been therapeutic because these are words I needed to hear
crying reading this as an oldest daughter.. you are so right about everything. OP’s sister never had anyone to protect her and love her. she did all the protecting. She has all the right to not want a relationship with the people who neglected her
I was hoping to see a comment about it. It also bugs me how the brother fails to think about it and understand the situation. Ofc not his fault the sister needed to become an adult so too early but damn, just take a sec and think
Wanting a natural diamond over a lab grown one has always been weird to me. They’re the same thing but lab grown diamonds don’t have the ethical concerns mined diamonds do.
I don't like diamonds for all the issues that come with it but I would see why someone would want the natural thing. It's more special, thinking about its history, how it was formed and everything it went through. It is a story I would be curious to know
@@RBB-lb1zdthat "special history" is modern slavery and child labor which is why lab grown diamonds were invented in the first place. Specifically wanting to own something that required so much violence and oppression to acquire is ... bizarre at best.
Story 3: this man is literally trying to kill his wife and daughter. Like framing it as accidental and forgetful things so there’s plausible deniability but this feels so purposeful.
Story 3: Lorren popping off is my own reaction irl, OP really is out here being a single mother with that partner, are we sure he didn't baby trapped her? He seems really comfortable with her money when he's not keeping up with his role as a partner and as a parent
My ex baby traps everyone. Me, the girl who had his kid before me, the girl after me ×2, and a couple others. No one seems to stick around too long to endure his manipulation and abuse 🤷🏽♀️ no wonder he's resorted to dating his cousin, again 😂😂😂 guys like this will do anything yet still cheat and lie and be lazy AF
I have 3 sister and we always say “my mom” instead of “our mom”. I notice a lot of people say it like that as well. I don’t see anything wrong with that.
not really, in my country for example is normal to say "my mom" "my brother" "my son" instead of ours, also sometimes but more jokingly we say "your mom/dad/sister etc". that's definitely not the problem of the story
the first story was heartbreaking. i would sob if my future husband MADE MY RING?! are you kidding me? and the sentimental value of your future father in law cutting the adorning gems? i could imagine giving the ring to our future daughter. that’s a family heirloom. she doesn’t deserve him.
Exactly this. My dad was a jeweller and made most of my mum’s gold jewellery that she still wears more than 32 years later. It’s sentimental and will definitely be something I will turn into a family heirloom.
Agreed. My husband made my ring and the stone was from a necklace my mother in law had (it had fallen out and insurance had replaced it, then she found the stone). I love it and would never ask for anything different.
You're so right- two kids can have a completely different view of their parents. My younger brother was mad and didn't understand when my parents split; he was really angry (especially at my mom). I saw and heard her crying so often through years of abuse. My brother doesn't know I've had to call the cops on my dad multiple times and I won't tell him since he loves my dad, who is in recovery. Eldest daughter things, I guess.
I don't think not telling him is a good idea or for his best. He should be able to have all the information and then make a decision for himself. Especially cause he will definitely find about it one day and then might never fully trust you again for deceiving him. You are putting a bigger burden on yourself than you have to.
@@bunjisteeto be fair I’m honest with my younger brother and out can be hard for them to fully understand if they weren’t there and have already put them on a pedestal. Sometimes it’s not as easy as telling them
the first story….. WHAAAAAAATTTTT😭😭😭😭😭😭 i would literally be sobbing if my boyfriend MADE ME an engagement ring with not only my birthstone (mine is also garnet) but a DIAMOND TOO?!?!?!?! she seems soooo ungrateful omg. i’d feel the same way as he does!!
Not to mention literally there is NO difference between lab-grown and 'natural' diamonds. At all. Them saying it's fair for her to want a 'natural' diamonds is bs imo, they are literally the exact same.
And natural diamonds usually have a lot of ethical or moral issues associated with them due to the labor and where they are being mined. Like a lab grown diamond is cheaper, high quality, and you can know exactly where it came from and what has happened to it. Like you can get a much bigger lab grown stone than natural@SamIAmWich
@@carissazrimsek1073At first, I thought you meant uncut diamonds when you said natural. I think the raw diamonds are more ethnicity sourced aswell but not 100% sure.
Story 3 just made me really sad. Like, not even mad, just sad. When OP mentioned what her husband said about how he must be mentally ill because he chose to marry her...that's just sad. It's a cruel and awful thing to say, but it didn't even evoke any anger from me, which is rare; it just gave me second-hand depression. There's something so melancholy about trying to love a guy and give him enough grace to save the relationship, yet he fights back against it with the most out-of-pocket and unnecessary offenses that cut deeply. I don't know what will become of him, but he is his own demise.
The story with the girl who lost her mum genuinely made me tear up 😭 the step mum sounds like such a lovely, understanding woman. They are gonna have the best relationship 🥰
It’s awesome bc you can clearly see that the step mom does truly want the daughter to love her and will take any place in her life to get that. She is a good mother already even if the step daughter can’t see her this way
Yes! I feel like the stepmom did the closest thing to what a mother would do. She protected that girl. Her real mom appreciates it in spirit, I’m sure.❤
For story 4, I can confirm that when you're the older child in a situation with one or more parents battle with an addiction, you often end up sheltering your younger siblings as much as you can. My dad had a drinking problem and he got clean when I was almost 15, my brother is 3.5 years younger than me and when we were children, I often took the responsibilities of keeping him away from the truth of what was happening to our dad, it doesn't mean he didn't see anything or didn't experience trauma from living with our dad, but our perception of this time is so different because we were at different ages and we had different "responsibilities" towards it, and it still impacts how we both approahc our relationship to our dad now that we are older
My jaw DROPPED and I immediately got goosebumps when I seen the “example ring” from story 1. I can’t imagine looking my husband in the face and nit picking any piece of that. What a thoughtful, priceless gift and gesture of love and affection. I would’ve been broken and reconsidered the engagement if I were him as well.
Story 4: I’m SO glad Morgan brought up the fact that the daughter was not only the oldest, but the oldest daughter as well. As an older sister who shielded my younger sister from a lot of trauma, it DOES take a toll on a person. The sister undoubtedly went through a lot and saw the “messier” side of their parents…the side he probably never really saw. I would understand if there was more resentment rather than forgiveness towards her parents right now.
Story 3: "He never whoopsied his own things," yet has wasted and destroyed OPs and child's things all these time. Wow. OP knows the right thing to do here. She just needs the push to be free from Mr. Weaponized Incompetence.
To be completely fair it's entirely possible for OP to have this perception but for it to not be true. Shit like that happens in real life all the time.
@@hayamirin6795 Human memory is incredibly fallible and imperfect. It's also incredibly impacted by our emotional state, which is why we remember high-emotional-intensity moments such as weddings or traumas or birthdays or that perfect say in the park you had with a loved one, way better than we remember the mundane. It's entirely possible OP's husband broke his own stuff but because these things weren't disruptive to OP, because maybe she didn't see them, maybe she was exaggerating a little when saying "never" like humans tend to do. There's many reasons that can lead people to develop an incorrect perception of a situation. It doesn't mean someone's lying or dumb when what happened and what they say happened are different things. Humans by nature are very bad at being objective.
I recently reached out to my grandma and asked why she is so close to my cousins and not me. She blamed me completely and said "I've always lived in the same house". I was orphaned at a young age and had always hoped for someone to help me. I see her attending graduations, commenting on pictures, making visits with my cousins but has pretended I didn't exist my whole life. My guess is she doesn't want to associate with the broken family members. Hearing Morgan affirm that it is the adults job to be there for the children in the family gave me a great deal of comfort and relief. The guilt and shame I feel for not being able to create a relationship with the adults in my life has burdened me until I'm almost 30. Never again. I now focus on building a relationship with my child and my nieces/nephews or kids in my family so they never feel like they are without someone supporting or loving them. I will always be there.
Would you expect your children and nephews/nieces to be responsible for keeping up your relationship? I guess you wouldn’t because that is a ridiculous expectation to have for a child. Why then would that be any different for you and your grandmother?
Story 4: I was literally singing Mama's boy, Mama's boy. Ofc the golden child doesn't understand why their relationship isn't as good. Sister is very lucky to have found a healthy, genuine relationship with a person who actually cared about her. I'm really sorry about her loss, Prof was clearly a very important person, and they sound like they were a wonder to be around.
I will say me and my brother are in the same boat with our mother. Only grew up with mom. She spoiled my brother and mistreated me. It’s a long story. But we have always had two different versions of our mother. But something I will say as the sister that was treated poorly. I don’t feel it’s right to convince my brother my mother isn’t a good mom. She was to him and that makes me happy at least. I love my brother and we went through enough with our dad. Even though he’s the oldest I still will protect my brother. And as long as she is good to him then there’s no reason for me to put him in the middle. As a kid I did envy him. When I was 16 I blew up one day telling him how spoiled he was and how I was treated like nothing. It ended in him crying and me storming off. And honestly it made me feel terrible. Because he wasn’t the issue! Don’t direct your anger to the wrong person. I learned to be happy for my bother and patient with my mother. Because I have a little brother as well now and he loves my mother too. Even though I raised him once I left she did put in the effort to make him happy. And as much as I don’t like my mother I love her for loving my brothers. But I know many others will disagree with me. But I feel it’s the most mature thing to do. My brother knows I’m not as close to our mom. But he also knows he can share good memories about her to me and I can share bad memories about her to him. Without arguing which story is the real version of our mom.
@@layladavis02the brother could’ve also just let it be. The sister has her version of the mom he has his. It’s a tattoo on her body. The parent is the one who needs to do internal work and not continue to demonize the daughter in front of the brother affecting their relationship. Everything else you said I agree with. But the brother isn’t a young teen who just saw a situation and was trying to help. This is grown people having a conversation making something tragic the daughter went through, and the brother deciding his version of mom is right and invalidating everything she went through.
@@layladavis02Just know this one thing: her spoiling your brother is still abuse. Look into narcissists and the golden child is what I would suggest. But you are right to not blame your brother.
Story 4: She was leaving shortly after they got sober, he had years with them in the same house as sober, active, involved parents. Had her parents put effort into building a relationship while she was in college, really celebrated her achievements, maybe she would feel more connected. But instead she had to get that from another person. Someone else was her comfort, her inspiration, her cheerleader, her mom.
I would like to know what kind of rehab they went to cause being told to make amends is a big thing and she should have been the first stop on redemption road.
the third story….. HAS to be weaponized incompetence. like i’m so pissed just listening to this i can’t even imagine actyally living with a man like that!!! like how do you 1.) forget the hot pot on the stove 2.) THEN put it in the sink on top of plastic 3.) THENNNNNNNNNN. PUT THE HOT POT ON THE COUNTER TOP???? 4.) THENNNN!!!!??!?! PUT A CUP ON THE HOT BURNER?!?!?!?!
I read this story when op first posted. People asked if she was that desperate to have a man to stay with him after everything he’s done & continues to do. Was he making these mistakes before they had a baby?? She mentioned all of this happened after their baby was born. He definitely started acting stupid so she can be the one to DO IT ALL
That was my thought at first but then it went too far. Like weaponized incompetence is something like not ever changing the diaper correctly to get out of changing diapers. But ruining two cars? There’s no benefit in that for him. So that’s why I felt there was something more!
1:48:17 as someone who in 6th grade had to sit through an explanation of how my teacher had just had a miscarriage due to a hole in the babies heart after another student decided to ask her if she was pregnant. never ask someone if someone is pregnant.
I was going to say it sounds like he’s on drugs or something. My ex hid a pill addiction from me for like 6 months left a pot on the stove for like 3 hours burner on no water
That ring was the sweater curse. (Knitters know what I mean) He spent so much time an effort and all she ended up caring about is the stone. It’s a real diamond!!!! It being grown in a lab is the only way to guarantee it’s not a blood diamond no matter what a supplier of mined diamonds will claim.
I haven't heard that term aside from a red diamond. What is the meaning behind that? I've connected it to how dangerous it is to mine, environmentally and physically.
@@Gabitronia Britannica describes them like this: "Blood diamond, as defined by the United Nations (UN), any diamond that is mined in areas controlled by forces opposed to the legitimate, internationally recognized government of a country and that is sold to fund military action against that government"
1:18:55 she is getting divorced. She’s already talked to an attorney in what his rights are to her assets. “Just so you know, he will read this, love alone isn’t enough and sometimes involves divorce.” She added these after the fact and told us thereafter to read between the lines for the hidden meaning.
She wrote the post cryptic so that he doesn't find out that she is divorcing him. Must have been abusive towards her after reading the post and the comments. She posted the edit when she was sure that his hatred for reddit had peaked and he wouldn't check the post again. I feel very bad for her. She is afraid. But hopefully her preparation will help her survive this shitstorm. I just hope she wins!
Good call on the whole pregnancy topic at the end. As an echo tech in a hospital I saw a coworker take in a patient for get a cardiac ultrasound and my coworker looked at her and saw she looked 8 months pregnant or so. Immediately congratulated her when taking her back and she said ,”yea no, not pregnant, I’m in end stage liver failure…so yea I get that a lot.” My coworkers was immediately embarrassed.
Story 3! As a mother to a young toddler, all I could hear is, "This person is a danger to that child!" Spilled medication, hot elements, driving accidents, creating a potential safety risk with our transportation, and doors left open! Absolutely not! He could seriously hurt that child or worse! I flat out told my husband that if he were to start doing things that caused him to be a danger to our daughter, I'm calling the proper channels to remove the danger until it's solved or identified! And that I expect him to do the same if it were me!
Story 4: Honestly, OP and his parents seem self-involved. Like they didn't even try to connect with their daughter/sister and then act shocked when she makes a family for herself with her friends/professor. Edit: yeah OP buried the lead by saying his parents are former addicts who probably ruined their daughter's high school experience with their actions.
It's even more confusion. The story says they aren't that far apart age wise, so they both experienced it, op was ready to support them and strengthen relationships when the parents overcame their addiction, the older sister held resentment, I want to know how they are personality wise, because this doesn't sound like an issue of golden child syndrome or op being self involved, people can see personal situation and see it differently
No, it definitely sounds like golden child vs scapegoat. The Mom is at least a narcissist. She cares so much about her kids hurting her feelings. She is playing the victim. Covert narcissists do this. I have experience with this. OP sounds like he is turning into a covert narcissist as well. He is playing it off as being understanding and mature, but he said she was cruel. He is taking sides and trying to support his Mom making his sister the villain.
The professor and her husband are awesome for showing her she is worth love and care, btw. I feel so much for the sister, losing probably the closest person to her.
@@mangopyximy mother is a narcissist/ sociopath. I was kinda adopted by my friends parents. My uncle and aunt. My parents didn't go to my graduation. I had to save money up for glasses so i could see the chalkboard.
@@dream6562you’ve clearly never been an older sibling trying to shield a younger sibling from the awful realities of abuse. When you care about your little sibling you try everything you can to keep them distracted from what’s really going on, even if the younger sibling may know things were bad, there is a very good chance that he was shielded from things his sister wasn’t, and the brother clearly now has a golden child type relationship with the parents because he never saw them the way she did.
The story with the husband making mistakes especially after the birth of his daughter: the couple of lines that got me was dropping drugs and not getting all of them, and that he frequently brings her grapefruit juice with her medication. You aren’t supposed to have anything grapefruit when you have medication. It can really affect the efficacy of medications. Almost make them ineffective! Is that actually right there malicious?
Ngl part of me felt like this was the beginning of a true crime case, like he was intentionally trying to kill op and their daughter, cause he realized he didn't wanna be a dad, but would lose money if they divorced
The girlfriend in the first story wanting a natural diamond is a huge red flag by itself... being upset at the price, not appreciating the time and work that went into it, AND wanting a blood diamond?? Yuck.
@@hayamirin6795if you read anything about natural diamond mining ever you’d not want one. Asking for a new natural diamond is definitely a red flag. What popped into my mind is it’s like asking for elephant tusks as a gift, it’s something obtained through inhuman suffering. But in the case of diamonds it’s people being exploited.
@@hayamirin6795Even indirectly supporting an industry that deals in child and slave labor is a big red flag to many. There are alternatives that are ethical that also also coincidentally cheaper.
@@hayamirin6795Yes it is, lmao. Do you not know how "natural" diamonds are mined, and who ends up doing the actual labor? A lot of the times, actual legit slaves.
@@hayamirin6795 Um, yes. A lab-produced diamond is the exact same thing as a mine-produced diamond. The only difference is that one requires horrific levels of child slave labor and the other does not. If my partner values a diamond based on the amount of human suffering it took to produce; then yea that's a red flag.
Story 4: idk if this is other peoples experience or not, but as a oldest sibling, I've noticed me and my sister do tend to view our parents differently, thankfully we both have a good relationship with them, but I definitely saw a lot more of the not so great sides of my parents than my little sister did, idk if that was because with me they were just learning to be parents and with her they knew a little bit, or if it was because i did try and shield her from that kind of stuff when we were younger Edit to add: also just heard the parentification part, THIS! Im so happy morgan talked about how this happens to older siblings and especially oldest female siblings. That definitely feels like what happened
My husband made my ring. It's not perfectly round, but he created his own Damascus ring. I got to see it as a random piece of metal before it became my ring. It's crazy to me to judge a ring your partner freaking MADE for you and prioritizing material over the actual labor of love.
I was 8 months along and VERY visibly pregnant. A sweet lady asked when I was due and I was feeling spicy that day and said "excuse me? I'm not pregnant." She kept trying to sputter out an apology and I eventually had to tell her I was just kidding and was due the next month, lol. She was so relieved 😂😂😂
Me starting off the third story with 'Is something medically wrong here? ;;;' then hearing his unmatched dedication to his own shit then legitimately ENDANGERING HIS FAMILY with the door debacle and the stove??? And I didn't even hear him ever apologize to her, just excuses????? BIG fucking nope...
Story 3 reminds me of the reddit story of the friend who was suspicious of her friends boyfriend who kept on having "accidents" that only affected and hurt her friend it started with spilling drinks on her then falling on her, then accidentally giving her something she's allergic too. Then falling and causing her harm.
Story 4 YTA. This such a beautiful way of memorialising a very special person in her life. This has nothing to do with mum and how she feels! This is ALL about this sister and her grief 😢
Story 3: he deffffffff has a drinking problem. that makes everything make sense - the forgetting things, dropping things, driving car into the garage, multiple trips to store. def a closeted alcoholic
You can smell the alcohol and someone though extremely easily.. especially as a married couple, all she has to do is go near him or have a face-to-face conversation with him and she’s going to smell the alcohol immediately
@@baileyspeltbeefy1768alcoholics are very good at hiding they’re alcoholics. if he’s hanging out in the garage all day while she’s working, she most likely will not be able to smell it, especially if he is covering it with something.
@@baileyspeltbeefy1768 I used to deal with substance abuse and I was scared as hell that someone is going to notice. I brushed my teeth obsessively. I don’t say he does the same thing but it COULD be a possibility.
@@tarakranzelic3549 I hope you are doing better now, that is a hard thing to struggle with and I’m assuming by “used to” that means you are sober so I just want to start by saying that’s really wonderful and something to be very proud of! I was more so meaning like even if you can’t smell it on someone’s breath for a reason like you mentioned, the body like “sweats it out” and I’ve dated and just known multiple people who struggled with alcohol abuse, and that was something that they all had, and no matter how good they’re hygiene was, how many showers they took, or much cologne/perfume they wore you could just smell it on their body Especially if it’s near the beginning of the day so that’s why I feel it would be hard for his wife to miss since she lives with him and is someone who is just intimately close to him Like when it was my ex, I immediately knew just because was around them all the time, and I was constantly close to him He would think that if you showered and himself in cologne the point where it gave me a headache because he thought that hid it but I could still smell it on him when I hugged him Really it’s the hugs or just going in to do something where you’re that close with them where it would be impossible not to notice just in my experience
For story 5 I totally agree that people shouldn’t ask or spread pregnancy rumors until the person is ready to tell you. I had a similar thing happen to me, my fiancés whole family ended up knowing (when I didn’t even know for sure yet I was still waiting for the ultrasound appointment to confirm I was pregnant) I asked my fiance not to tell anyone until we knew for sure I was pregnant and there wasn’t any complications or problems, but he told 2 people which turned into everyone knowing. It was insane and stressful. It is the worst feeling having your medical information spread around without your consent.
Okay so Lauren is a genius for that decipher! Also, Lauren’s reaction to “they got close immediately” until it states that it’s a mother/daughter style relationship🤣🤣 she’s all of us listening
50:07 this IS weaponized incompetence. He has to go back to the store 5 times for the right items. He doesn’t mix the bottles right. He doesn’t put the diapers on right. You’re forgetting all of the things that he gets wrong when it comes to chores that has already been said.
With story 4 Morgan hit the nail on the head with the parentifcation comment. I'd bet money the sister shielded him and basically had to raise him while her parents struggled with addiction. Then she had maybe one year of sober parents before she moved out. One year of sober parents can't heal the years of hurt, and frankly, the sister isn't obligated to fix her relationship with them. The parents are the ones who should be putting in the work, which clearly they aren't if they can't even give her flowers at graduation.
As someone who's been to AA with a family member, it's sad to hear cause they are not working their steps. Sounds like it just easier (a cop out) to deal with the younger sibling cause they don't know the damage that was actually done. They may be sober, but they don't want to face their demons, and older sibling knows them.
the third story is SUCH weaponized incompetence. seriously would rather bash my head through a wall than live with someone like that-and i almost did just listening to it lmao
Honestly, the stepdaughter introducing her step mom as a friend is such a win. The dad and his parents massively overreacted. She views her as a safe person, and that's the goal!
It was life changing when I realized that my sister and I experienced two different upbringings even though we grew up in the house together and she is four years older.
For story 5, I feel so sad that you feel bad for saying genuine truths about the world. She's honestly lucky she didn't do this with someone who did get bad news or she could've had an HR issue on her hands. You were well-spoken and honest, and you did it with grace. You didn't yell at her or belittle her. You made it clear that this isn't something that we should accept in the world, nor is it something to be joked about. Even getting pregnant comes with complications and fears, that's why people wait to announce 🙄
Alright Morgan, wedding advice here from a man coming up on three year anniversary. Biggest suggestion I can have is to get a wedding planner. It’s a ton of work even when you have a planner helping out. Communicate with your fiancé first and foremost and don’t worry if something doesn’t go as planned because it’ll make a great story later! Get pics done early in the night so you don’t have to worry about them from there on and don’t skimp cost on photographer because they can add or detract a lot from the experience. Seating charts take a long time so start those early if you’re doing assigned seating. You guys seem like a sturdy couple so just keep up the communication lines and enjoy the experience because it’s so much fun!
YES. I didn’t think we needed a wedding planner but my mother gifted us the fees for a really good one. So wonderful so necessary and both my wife and I are neurospicy.
story 3 - He is only breaking things that “aren’t his”. none of his things are mysteriously being broken and he is careful with his things but not shared or hers.
Absolutely sobbed when you started talking about it’s the parents responsibility to mend the relationship. I’ve worked through this in therapy so much with the relationship with one of my parents. Thank you thank thank you for saying it all out loud.
Ring story brings back old memories lol. 7 years ago when I was 19, I was proposed to by my then boyfriend. Loved the ring. We were on a very fixed income, didn't have extra money to spend at that time. I found out the ring had real dimonds and was very expensive. Was pretty upset that he took a loan out to buy a RING. We fought about it a lot. Ended up returning the ring, and we bought another one at Walmart for a fraction of the price. We are no longer married, but I still have the ring, still beautiful as ever even though it didn't have "real" stones.
Story 3: As someone who's lived with multiple alcoholics he is 100% an alcoholic. I don't think the OP even knew when she made her original post genuinely, based on her description of her health it seems like it would be very easy for someone to sneak around her. Especially someone she trusted so deeply. By her updates it seems like she knows now but that explains every one of his actions down to leaving the stove burner on. I think the "fake wine" comment was about his guilt showing so now the only time he was visibly drinking in front of her is now covered. It's actually an insane perspective to alcoholism because it happened right under her nose and she genuinely thought something was wrong with him, him being an alcoholic didn't even cross her mind. Normally people in the alcoholic's lives, such as spouses, see the decline in front of their eyes so it's not a surprise it's more of a denial. She's not in denial she just had absolutely no idea.
Also I know morgan tweaks over the comments so please don't be upset, but for a lot of alcoholics 0% beer is a trigger and not a solution. Totally cool that you guys are sponsored by them sometimes, they are a good alternative for people with medical conditions or the elderly. But they are not really a recommendable solution for most people with alcohol addiction.
Story 1 - NTA. I can’t believe OP worked on it for 3 months and she had the audacity to nitpick the diamond. Also she didn’t seem to have a problem with the design of it, she had a problem with the VALUE of the diamond. That is so telling into the person she is. I would’ve sobbed after working on something for 3 months just for it to be critiqued. All she cares about is the money he spent, not the blood sweat and tears he put into the gesture.
That’s what I was thinking the whole time, like I didn’t even care what my fiancé spent on my ring and the only time I found out how much it really was, was when I needed to get it cleaned and I needed the receipt to take it in and honestly I was RELIEVED he only spent like 300 on it because I don’t know how people feel comfortable wearing thousands of dollars worth of a ring it gives me anxiety, my man could have proposed with a ring pop and I would have still said yes 😂
1:24:19 I will die on the hill that parents are supposed to go out of their way for their kids. If you want to bond with your kid, you go out of your way to find out that she wants flowers. That’s it. Or you don’t get to be angry or resentful. I grew up relating to Matilda and I’ll tell you that it does so much more for you, to feel seen then to have family. Sometimes family doesn’t see you.
Story 3: Those are NOT accidents, and it's NOT medical. Because if that were the case he'd have those "accidents" in every part of his life not just when it related to the things that belonged to his wife and child. But no, HIS stuff is safe. Way more likely that in the process of getting more active on the internet he's gotten sucked into the Andrew Tate black hole. So no, he's just been mentally torturing his wife so that he wouldn't have to be responsible for any kind of housework or childcare (and with that open door thing even endangering his wife and child in order to mentally torture her). This story absolutely DOES call for divorce.
A tip I learned in wedding planning is, if you can not mention it's for a wedding do it. Once vendors or businesses hear the word wedding, they will up the charge for the same product/service. Even if that service or product doesn't change regardless of the guests amount.
Story 2: my mom died when I was 18, and 20 years later, I miss her everyday still. My dad married my stepmother when I was 11, and she is the most amazing mother. She was one of my biggest support person through losing my mother, an amazing grandmother to my kids, and though i still call her by first name (mainly just out of habit) she calls me her daughter. I say this to say there are amazing step parents out there.. people who have no problem loving their kids, even the ones they didn't conceive, and I hope the teen in story 2 is able to open her heart and know it's okay to have 2 moms. If I died tomorrow, I would hope my kids would find someone that loved them as much as I do, because they deserve it. It wouldn't be a disrespect of my memory, us mothers want our kids to have as much love as possible. And love is not a finite resource, you don't max out on it.
Yeah but the step mom is being very respectful towards the daughter's wishes, she's not forced to call her mom, the husband and in laws are the problem here, they truly despised the mom and do not care that she died, but the daughter CARES, THAT WAS HER MOM and she has the final word on how she refers to her step mom
Nah, the gf in the first story is shallow. He spent months on making a ring that fits her taste and it was apparently perfect, minus the lab-diamond. If her point of contention was value and not the look or fit, then yeah it IS materialistic. If I spent months making something for my bf and he said “it’s not good enough for me” I would also rethink our relationship. She can be materialistic if she wants, just not with that man who worked so hard to make something beautiful for her.
So the stepmom story had me crying, I am a step mom myself. I've been in my stepdaughter's life since she was two, so I've always been mom to her. Her mom was struggling with mental health and addiction, she's now sober and has limited contact with my daughter. They are building a relationship, but I am still mom to her, even though she knows the truth, I try to help her have a healthy relationship with her mother. It warms my heart so much to see that stepmom advocate for the stepdaughter and what she wants, no matter how hard it may be as well.
11:37 okay but it is the STRAW the point of the straw that broke the camels back is that it’s a small thing but it’s the thousands of small things that have built up over time so this is THE STRAW.
I'm pretty sure parasite cleanses don't work! I would verify with a doctor that you actually have a parasite because the multivitamins for the parasite cleanse is super expensive
hi! Not American but living in America now. In nearly every other country I’ve been to, and the country I’m personally from, parasite cleanses are normal and encouraged periodically based on certain symptoms (frequent bubble guts/IBS being one). It’s common to get parasites from many things but especially if you eat meat of any kind. Almost guarantee that you’d expel some nasty worms 🪱 if you have never done one. Also, morgan & loren/lauren? So sorry if I messed up the spelling 😣 but look into candida overgrowth. This is something 1 in 3 women struggle with and can cause SO many issues for us. Hope this helps anyone who may be struggling as well❤ Edit to add: purchasing wormwood and making your own tea is not too pricey, but paraguard will clean you out for a decent price! Great, natural ingredients
parasites aren't that common either! if you think you have one you should def see a doctor about it. if you're struggling with your stomach, eating more fiber and amino acids and taking pro and pre biotics is a great place to start
Lauren travels a lot so it really could be that. In Mexico we’re recommended to do one about every six months, I don’t know if they’re ineffective in the US but they’re definitely effective in Mexico.
last story: I’ve been in too many situations where a friend tells me that they’re pregnant and i first ask “you want to have it?” and then i react depending on the answer mostly bc i want them to feel im a safe place and they can really tell me if they don’t want it so i can help and support them whatever they answer is
Story #3. She has put up with sooo much. I would've snapped before but after calling/ considering him a liability. Divorce. You do not trust this man and he is showing you actively that he doesnt care about you or your daughter. I would've said "pack your bags. Call your mom. We're over. "
The stepmom in story 2 is doing an awesome job of listening to her stepdaughter and respecting that poor girl’s wishes and boundaries and it’s so sad the dad (who presumably also went to those therapy sessions?!??) isn’t doing the same thing.
as someone who’s familiar w addiction and loved many ppl w problems relating to drugs, alcohol, and mental health- i immediately called it that there was drugs involved.
Story two...what a good step mom. Letting step daughter guide the relationship, knowing therapy was important to help find the right dynamic, accepting whatever relationship made the child safe, and then defending her to her actual biological family for belittling her. Eff the dad and in laws, step mom is being the best for step daughter and protecting her best
The first story in the beginning I immediately thought he’s wrong for the fact that since I was a child I had an idea of the ring I wanted and I’d be disappointed if I got proposed to with a ring that’s not my dream ring (the one I picked out is about $100. But after I got to the middle I actually got mad… at her and he is the most thoughtful person ever
Story 3 I just do not think it's medical because he doesn't break his own stuff. If he was breaking his stuff and being careless with his stuff, then maybe it's medical or something, but if it's decreased fine motor skills it would effect his stuff too, not just hers.
I can't remember if Morgan has read it, but if it's not medical, story 3 reminds me of the guy who kept having targeted "accidents" towards his girlfriend. Where he was clumsy but only in ways that physically harmed his girlfriend and never in any other circumstance. Edit because I hadn't heard the whole story yet: Where's the "Make It a Fair Fight" girl from TikTok when you need her? From the sounds of it, OP makes at least triple what I make but I'll pay the entire expense. Holy shit.
Story 3 - girl, i know being a single parent sucks, but you've got a supportive mom at the very least, and your husband IS a liability, very likely more than you know. At the very very least, he does not respect you, and there is no real love without respect. Kick his worse than useless ass out before your child is hurt, your house is burnt to the ground, or worse.
my sister and i were at the nail salon together, she was about a year or two post partum from a c. the nail lady finished her nails, stood up and reached across the table, jiggled her belly and said ‘oooh how far along?!’. 😭😭 my sister was so shocked and she was like ‘excuse me???’ and the lady just nervous laughed and was like ‘oh’ and walked away 😭😭😭 genuinely my jaw was on the flooooor
No, NO WAY is the 3rd story a medical issue. It could be if it was happening with everything but it is ONLY when he is doing something for the wife and daughter. Milking his wifes money and not respecting her at all. I would kick him out so fast
Exactly 🤦🏻♀️ I can’t believe how everything gets swept under “oooh mental health issues” and I’m saying this as a person currently medicated for depression. Cuz even if it was, we all have to take responsibility for our actions! Also, there’s no way his mental health only affects him when it comes to doing things for them.
@@kiarar.1219 yk when you have a brain tumor or other neurological issues a sudden change in personality is very common. So it's not only about the "mental health issues"
@@Mariam-do6jq you guys talk about that as if it was so common. And of course, that could be a reason, there could be a thousand reasons other then what you and I said… but what’s more probable? I’ve seen lots of cases where men start acting up after the wife gives birth because they’re jealous of the baby. And from what I understood, mind you, I was working at the same time so maybe understood wrong, he started acting up around the same time they had the baby 🤷🏻♀️ that’s why I think it’s on purpose Omg just finished the update now, and I’d love to know your take on that “medical fragile” comment he made 👀
The natural diamond would be a a huge no for me, like you'd rather have a person possibly a child mine and maybe even die than buy me a cheaper and ethically sourced lab grown diamond? Do you even know me?
Can we just have an episode of you and Lauren talking?? Like just talking. No Reddit stories (unless you want, your podcast) but kind of like a "girls night" vibe. Viewers could get their wine and snacks (juice for the youngins) and just feel like we're all having this one big girls night/family night thing. I looooove hearing Lauren's voice and experiences. I love hearing her open up about her thoughts and I just love how you, Morgan are so supportive of her. You have such a great friendship it'd be really cool to see you two just talking like we've all known each other our while lives ❤❤
I understand what Morgan was trying to explain. I think price is the indicator word. Something that doesn't have an astronomical price can be THE most valuable thing in the world. I think the fiance equates price to value.
Story 3 I a year ago was in a serious accident like that and I really get what she means about permanent physical impairments and how function can vary day to day ( I was in a wheelchair a long while before I became well enough to not be. I am in my mid 20s and likely will forever walk slower and with a wobble). Existing in a wheelchair is hard at first. I cant imagine navigating that with a kid and non-present partner. I feel so sorry that she doesnt have support at home. We cant really help much with that but we are here for the emotional support.
YES THANK YOU!!! It honestly makes me wanna pull my hair out every time someone in the story is objectively just a bad person/a huge asshole and instead of just acknowledging that the host of this podcast, somehow always thinks they just have mental health issues… honestly the amount of stuff she chalks up to “they must be struggling with mental health… they are probably so depressed and them being a major AH is just making them so much more depresssed..🥺” like please come on now. Like I swear, someone could post “My husband set our house on fire cause I told him he can’t quit his job to focus on his video game obsession… AITA?” And instead of her saying “No.. your husband is a monster RUN FOR YOUR LIFE. This is the only answer in this situation.” She would probably say that there are a few possibilities and the second one would be her trying to claim the reason he wanted to quit his job and focus on video games was because he’s so depressed and the reason he burnt his house down instead of talking to his wife about it was because he’s too embarrassed to admit he struggling…🙄
Regarding story 1: There’s a ton of history on wedding rings over time. I believe that diamonds are valued for their perceived rarity, but in truth, there are so many that some are even discarded in the ocean to maintain their value. I agree with one of the comments about caring more about the person you love and not the value of the ring. My husband made my ring, and it’s my absolute favorite. It feels incredibly special knowing that no one else has a ring like mine, especially since part of it came from his grandmother’s jewelry. We’re celebrating 4 years of marriage this month and 9 years together, giving birth to our second baby this Saturday ❤
Honestly Morgan, going to your first wedding dress appointment by yourself can be GREAT. I did that and ended up picking some options that I liked with zero pressure or outside opinions killing my vibe. I only brought people for appointment #2 when I already had some options I liked. That way there were no bad options, and I didn't end up wasting people's time or felt pressure to pick a dress on the first day.
Story 4: If I'm griefing someone really important and the only thing my brother/mother care abt in that moment is that "it hurts her feelings" and "am I not good enough of a mother for you" I literally dont care abt their feelings. Like? Thats exactly why she is distant with them.
1:59 sorry wait @Morgan are you concerned and think you have parasites in your GI system? (I assume that’s what you mean with “parasite cleanse”) Because if so, then go to a doctor! In general, most of those “detoxes” and “cleanses” are basically unnecessary. Your organs should already be detoxifying and removing anything harmful from your system. If you’re genuinely concerned that something is wrong and that that’s not happening, then I highly recommend speaking with a doctor rather that doing a cleanse suggested by the internet 😅 too many fake internet doctors out there now too recommending “remedies” that won’t actually do anything or (depending on what they’re saying you have to do) could potentially harm your system instead
It’s like the people that recommend taking laxatives everyday to “stay regular”. What they forget to mention is that our GI system adapts and eventually you’ll be completely reliant on the laxative to go at all. If there’s an issue, talk with a doctor and only take things as prescribed 😅
@Lauren Also your GI tract should have its own healthy gut microbiome already (unless you’re taking antibiotics or something else that would potentially limit/ harm the microbiome. Probiotics are good in that situation, but typically unnecessary the rest of the time if your GI tract is functioning properly. Again see a doctor if you’re concerned. If they recommend a brief round of probiotics then go for it But longer term it can be a waste since your body typically just filters out anything that’s in excess. And actually taking too much probiotic can cause you GI to have more issues since it’s trying to process things that it doesn’t need/ shouldn’t be there. Too much probiotic can literally lead to build up of gas and Bloating (LAUREN) and diarrhea Love you girlies but also maybe chill with the instagram health remedies 😂 our bodies are capable of doing so much on its own, so maybe just research more before blowing money on something that isn’t actually necessary 😅
Biggest wedding planning tip that helped sooo much was to have a wedding planner, or bridesmaid you can chat with about your ideas/plans who can take notes and break those ideas into a checklist for you to do later. Decision paralysis is so real and this really helps to have someone helping you from idea to action. 💛 great episode and hope this helps!
Story 3 sounds like my husband😭 he won’t clean the area when he starts cooking and has burned/melted a bunch of kitchen towels and plastics around the stove while cooking. He will do things wrong w our kids and house stuff like. I lost my shit several times because there was no legit excuse for him to be so careless and has been stepping up lol
I had to come here to leave a comment because the liability story has me screaming out loud. He is 100% medically fine. The fact that he can keep his stuff nice means he knows what it means to be able to take care or pride in something. His major tell was the passive aggressive comment about "Its not like we don't have the money." I feel like he's jealous of her money. He is purposefully doing things to her and her daughters things and not his. He needs therapy and if I was OP I would kick him out. People are so much more manipulative than people realize. I'm a nurse and I agree there is a small chance something medical is going on but unfortunately in this day and age its infinitely more likely he is being petty and immature.
For story 3 update:
The last four words of each of the previous 4 paragraphs are:
Just so you know. He will read this. Love alone isn't enough. And sometimes involves divorce.
My interpretation: She doesn't want to directly say she'll divorce him because there's a chance he will read/hear about it. This is probably because of either safety reasons for her and her daughter or because she wants to get her ducks in a row legally before presenting him with divorce papers. Or both.
thank you for interpreting and relaying this information. i was so stressed out for her while they were reading
Damn even hiding it like that very sad
damn. thanks for the info
Yes. I feel they have very special connection which nobody can understand.
Still, he’s been too much.
He crossed the line in my opinion.
I made a recommendation on the post to check the garage for carbonmanoxide. It could be the cause of his delusion
Story 3:
Ok, so watching the video and hearing the story for the second time made me think of something:
Could he be stealing and taking some of her meds?
When the details of him organising her meds, and having dropped whole bottles on the floor, could be a deliberate act to excuse some of the pills going missing.
With the kind of injuries and the condition OP describes, I think we can assume she is on some pain meds, if not hefty pain meds like opiates.
STORY 3 WAS DRIVING ME INSANEEE, does he want to kill his daughter, leaving the stove on, pills on the floor AND LEAVING THE DOOR OPEN WHATTTT
THIS!!! IMO I think he wants to hurt his daughter or at least is willing to because he desperately wants to hurt OP as much as possible in every way possible.
I think he is willing to risk putting the child in danger or the possibility of danger so he can hurt/torment OP… for example him leaving the door open when the child is old enough to get up and walk out I think he did that because he’s hoping that he would see that and it would do exactly what happened… give her pretty much a panic attack over the “What if” and he is so willing to hurt her that he’s also OK with the situations possibly not being a what if and actually happening… which is horrifying.
I personally believe if he didn’t mean this, or this wasn’t a motivator, that he would also be extremely upset and angry with himself… he takes his video games and streaming on TikTok live more seriously than he takes his daughters safety and life
The guy LITERALLY just wants to get the money, he just wanted to play safe until literally he got the chance to not care anymore and even cause her harm. He actually uses Weaponized Incompetence to make her life MISERABLE, sometimes things don't have to be beneficial for him, just fucked up FOR HER. I'm very scared for her life 😢.
@@breakeable4631 He drives me so angry! Such a loser.
Story 3. Something is up.. i honestly think that man is on drugs or drinking. He is hiding in that garage, he is checked out of his relationship, and he seems resentful of his partner tbh.
Or he resents her for being successful. She has a well-paid job and a house.
He makes "mistakes" only with her stuff or their daughters stuff.
I would even say that he is trying to hurt her. The medicines, the door, the diary, and the pot on the stove are dangerous situations.
I think he’s resentful, he doesn’t act like he loves his daughter. He wants a divorce, but since he can’t get anything from it, he knows that its the most plausible to manipulate op into divorcing him and guilt trip her into giving him something. He wants to divorce her, because as she said, she will eventually need a wheelchair, and he doesn’t want to be stuck as the provider/care giver. He wants to take what he can and move on to the next victim.
As someone chronically ill, story 3 is my BIGGEST nightmare. To have someone say something along the lines of "I'm messed up in the head for choosing to love you" would kill me as I'm afraid of being a burden or a regret for my partner
Yes its ironic how he sees her as the liability, while he as far as we know) suffers zero difficulties, but she supports him & their child anyways. Yes mistakes do happen, but it was someone’s careless mistake that changed her life forever. Why must she have to accept more careless mistakes on top of that. If it can’t be explained by a medical professional, there’s something darker going on. She’s supporting him like a pet that’s always chewing up her slippers, and he barely even acknowledges her existence.
Real ASF. As a fellow chronically I'll person, that shit would absolutely devestate me
That really wrecked me hearing him say that to her. It sounded like he was on the right track to reconciliation, them he emotionally crashed his car into the garage. I'm sorry. If it was me, I'd immediately end it with him after that. Medical issues or not, that level of disrespect cannot stand.
@ikigaime3158 if my husband ever said that to me, I'd end it immediately. I have chronic pain do to degenerative disc disease. I have multiple herniated discs, arthritis, chronic fatigue syndrome, and deal with depression from all of those issues. My drs have been begging me to quit teaching dance because it's so hard on my body. But I refuse because it's the only thing that keeps me sane, and it makes me feel like I'm contributing to the household. If hubby ever commented on my health, it would absolutely crush me.
As she was reading I said --- HE'S ON DRUGS!
that third guy saying “let me pay back $11,000 with $50 a month… he just signed himself up for staying in OPs house for longer because he’s “working” on paying everything back😬🤦♀️ i’m not done with this story but i genuinely hope she leaves him. this feels manipulative
I understood it the opposite that he was getting 300 a paycheck but now he gets 50 so the other 250 is "paying back his debts".
250 a month is what he isn't getting aka the pay back. But yes he's locking himself in
For the third story, someone in the comments was saying that he was probably going back to the store multiple times to buy more alcohol, people were theorizing he has an alcohol problem and that his carelessness was actually him being drunk
That’s what I was thinking! Either a brain issue (tumor, etc) or an addiction issue. It’s just such a rapid attitude/behavior change that I can’t imagine it being something else
& Here I was thinking his doing it on purpose, so she stops asking him for help 😂
That was my first thought. Seems like substance abuse for sure.
If it's substance abuse then what about the impeccable detail he was taking with his set pieces ?
@@LydiaTaylorMusicamphetamines…
Lauren you really shouldn’t be so worried about your takes, you have the most considerate, well rounded, mature reactions. I’m very inspired by you!
This means so much to me! Thank you Kate 🩷 🥹
Story 3: Unwilling to communicate and unwilling to go to the doctor. Kick him out, lock the doors TONIGHT. Divorce. He could litteraly make a fatal mistake, towards you and your daughter.
The whole story didn’t make me angry bc after the first few examples I was already done. Idk how op survived this long especially when it comes to her and her baby’s health. Just, absolutely not. Not tolerating incompetence
Divorce for sure. It just sucks that she'll prob have to pay him alimony.
@@rachelprose400 maybe make him get a job before going for a divorce so she can pay less. And if they don't touch the settlement money and she gets the custody she can get by pretty well
The fact that he never breaks anything of his own lets me know everything I need to know about him. Wish they talk about that part more.
@@bunjistee omg it reminds me of the story of the guy that gets conveniently clumsy around his girlfriend and only his girlfriend ans turns out he was doing it on purpose when a friend tried to “stop” him
story 4: As the oldest daughter i can 100% say that the sister shielded her brother. Not only that but when her parents were drunk and high, who was taking care of OP? Yes exactly she was. She gave up her childhood to be mom to her little brother and for that she is angry with her parents. He is proud of them for being clean but he had a much easier childhood than his sister who had no one taking care of her or comforting her. She didn’t find that until she met the professor and now the one person who took care of her and comforted her and protected her is gone. I feel so bad for his sister because she didn’t have the opportunity to be a little girl but her brother did because she gave that to him. She will probably need therapy to let go of the hurt that she has but if her parents dont acknowledge the damage they have caused, they will never have a relationship. Wishing nothing but healing for all the oldest daughters of the world. Your work does not go unnoticed ladies. You are appreciated. Somehow writing this post has been therapeutic because these are words I needed to hear
crying reading this as an oldest daughter.. you are so right about everything. OP’s sister never had anyone to protect her and love her. she did all the protecting. She has all the right to not want a relationship with the people who neglected her
I was hoping to see a comment about it. It also bugs me how the brother fails to think about it and understand the situation. Ofc not his fault the sister needed to become an adult so too early but damn, just take a sec and think
Bawling as the oldest, who is not close with my family.
Wanting a natural diamond over a lab grown one has always been weird to me. They’re the same thing but lab grown diamonds don’t have the ethical concerns mined diamonds do.
I don't like diamonds for all the issues that come with it but I would see why someone would want the natural thing. It's more special, thinking about its history, how it was formed and everything it went through. It is a story I would be curious to know
@@RBB-lb1zdthat "special history" is modern slavery and child labor which is why lab grown diamonds were invented in the first place. Specifically wanting to own something that required so much violence and oppression to acquire is ... bizarre at best.
It's because diamonds are a status symbol. People want "natural" diamonds because they want to flaunt disposable income.
To add to this, natural diamonds are practically worthless. The markup on them is insane, and yeah they’re pretty much just a status symbol
Exactly!
If he hadn't told her, she would never have known🤬
The entitlement and ungratefulness are insane!
Story 3: this man is literally trying to kill his wife and daughter. Like framing it as accidental and forgetful things so there’s plausible deniability but this feels so purposeful.
Story 3: Lorren popping off is my own reaction irl, OP really is out here being a single mother with that partner, are we sure he didn't baby trapped her? He seems really comfortable with her money when he's not keeping up with his role as a partner and as a parent
He is probably waiting till her money runs out
My ex baby traps everyone. Me, the girl who had his kid before me, the girl after me ×2, and a couple others. No one seems to stick around too long to endure his manipulation and abuse 🤷🏽♀️ no wonder he's resorted to dating his cousin, again 😂😂😂 guys like this will do anything yet still cheat and lie and be lazy AF
For real. I don’t have the patience for that nonsense. And if my mom would defend that behavior I’d send him to her garage.
Now he's mad he's not the center of attention and this is how he gets it back.
@@alexemerson9886that’s what I said!!!
Story 4: op constantly referring to their mom as "my mom" instead of "our mom" says everything i need to know about the dynamic
I have 3 sister and we always say “my mom” instead of “our mom”. I notice a lot of people say it like that as well. I don’t see anything wrong with that.
@@gracielaherrera4676it’s a Latino thing for sure, I say my mom too
not really, in my country for example is normal to say "my mom" "my brother" "my son" instead of ours, also sometimes but more jokingly we say "your mom/dad/sister etc". that's definitely not the problem of the story
@@lisaespinoza123I thought it was just me 😭😭. My boyfriend be asking me why we do that I fr don’t know
It’s a Hispanic thing
the first story was heartbreaking. i would sob if my future husband MADE MY RING?! are you kidding me? and the sentimental value of your future father in law cutting the adorning gems? i could imagine giving the ring to our future daughter. that’s a family heirloom. she doesn’t deserve him.
ESPECIALLY since she literally didn't find anything wrong with it until the cost wasn't up to her standards 🙄
Scream cry for sure
Exactly this. My dad was a jeweller and made most of my mum’s gold jewellery that she still wears more than 32 years later. It’s sentimental and will definitely be something I will turn into a family heirloom.
For real! I don't even care if it wasn't done in a professional way, even if it was just a metal ring I'd be so happy ❤ so long as it doesn't hurt 😂😅
Agreed. My husband made my ring and the stone was from a necklace my mother in law had (it had fallen out and insurance had replaced it, then she found the stone). I love it and would never ask for anything different.
You're so right- two kids can have a completely different view of their parents. My younger brother was mad and didn't understand when my parents split; he was really angry (especially at my mom). I saw and heard her crying so often through years of abuse. My brother doesn't know I've had to call the cops on my dad multiple times and I won't tell him since he loves my dad, who is in recovery. Eldest daughter things, I guess.
Eldest daughter things, indeed.
Yup can confirm. 30 years later I'm finally reconciling my strained relationship with my mom and sister
I don't think not telling him is a good idea or for his best. He should be able to have all the information and then make a decision for himself. Especially cause he will definitely find about it one day and then might never fully trust you again for deceiving him. You are putting a bigger burden on yourself than you have to.
This!!
@@bunjisteeto be fair I’m honest with my younger brother and out can be hard for them to fully understand if they weren’t there and have already put them on a pedestal. Sometimes it’s not as easy as telling them
the first story….. WHAAAAAAATTTTT😭😭😭😭😭😭 i would literally be sobbing if my boyfriend MADE ME an engagement ring with not only my birthstone (mine is also garnet) but a DIAMOND TOO?!?!?!?! she seems soooo ungrateful omg. i’d feel the same way as he does!!
i just the said the same thing!! she’s so ungrateful! he dodged a bullet.
Not to mention literally there is NO difference between lab-grown and 'natural' diamonds. At all. Them saying it's fair for her to want a 'natural' diamonds is bs imo, they are literally the exact same.
And natural diamonds usually have a lot of ethical or moral issues associated with them due to the labor and where they are being mined. Like a lab grown diamond is cheaper, high quality, and you can know exactly where it came from and what has happened to it. Like you can get a much bigger lab grown stone than natural@SamIAmWich
@@carissazrimsek1073At first, I thought you meant uncut diamonds when you said natural. I think the raw diamonds are more ethnicity sourced aswell but not 100% sure.
Like he took 3 months that's so much better than going to a shop for 1 day and getting the ring
Story 3 just made me really sad. Like, not even mad, just sad. When OP mentioned what her husband said about how he must be mentally ill because he chose to marry her...that's just sad. It's a cruel and awful thing to say, but it didn't even evoke any anger from me, which is rare; it just gave me second-hand depression. There's something so melancholy about trying to love a guy and give him enough grace to save the relationship, yet he fights back against it with the most out-of-pocket and unnecessary offenses that cut deeply. I don't know what will become of him, but he is his own demise.
The story with the girl who lost her mum genuinely made me tear up 😭 the step mum sounds like such a lovely, understanding woman. They are gonna have the best relationship 🥰
I love that it was the step mom that went We need to go to therapy so we are both okay
Especially seeing the way the stepmom defended her, ugh op sounds so wonderful
Literally made me cry.
It’s awesome bc you can clearly see that the step mom does truly want the daughter to love her and will take any place in her life to get that. She is a good mother already even if the step daughter can’t see her this way
Yes! I feel like the stepmom did the closest thing to what a mother would do. She protected that girl. Her real mom appreciates it in spirit, I’m sure.❤
For story 4, I can confirm that when you're the older child in a situation with one or more parents battle with an addiction, you often end up sheltering your younger siblings as much as you can. My dad had a drinking problem and he got clean when I was almost 15, my brother is 3.5 years younger than me and when we were children, I often took the responsibilities of keeping him away from the truth of what was happening to our dad, it doesn't mean he didn't see anything or didn't experience trauma from living with our dad, but our perception of this time is so different because we were at different ages and we had different "responsibilities" towards it, and it still impacts how we both approahc our relationship to our dad now that we are older
My jaw DROPPED and I immediately got goosebumps when I seen the “example ring” from story 1. I can’t imagine looking my husband in the face and nit picking any piece of that. What a thoughtful, priceless gift and gesture of love and affection. I would’ve been broken and reconsidered the engagement if I were him as well.
Just listening to the description of it, it's such a sign of love. I don't know how anyone would be able to nit pick something so intentional
The first story is actually fake. If you find it on Reddit, other users have found out that this OP posts a lot of fake relationship type stories.
Right?! I took a screenshot & sent it to my BF 🤣 I was like "your loss my gain"
Story 4: I’m SO glad Morgan brought up the fact that the daughter was not only the oldest, but the oldest daughter as well. As an older sister who shielded my younger sister from a lot of trauma, it DOES take a toll on a person. The sister undoubtedly went through a lot and saw the “messier” side of their parents…the side he probably never really saw. I would understand if there was more resentment rather than forgiveness towards her parents right now.
10000%
Story 3:
"He never whoopsied his own things," yet has wasted and destroyed OPs and child's things all these time. Wow.
OP knows the right thing to do here. She just needs the push to be free from Mr. Weaponized Incompetence.
It's financial and psychological abuse...I guarantee you he's waiting for her money to run out.
To be completely fair it's entirely possible for OP to have this perception but for it to not be true. Shit like that happens in real life all the time.
@@KETimiko How?
This this thiiissssssss!!!!
@@hayamirin6795 Human memory is incredibly fallible and imperfect. It's also incredibly impacted by our emotional state, which is why we remember high-emotional-intensity moments such as weddings or traumas or birthdays or that perfect say in the park you had with a loved one, way better than we remember the mundane.
It's entirely possible OP's husband broke his own stuff but because these things weren't disruptive to OP, because maybe she didn't see them, maybe she was exaggerating a little when saying "never" like humans tend to do. There's many reasons that can lead people to develop an incorrect perception of a situation.
It doesn't mean someone's lying or dumb when what happened and what they say happened are different things. Humans by nature are very bad at being objective.
I recently reached out to my grandma and asked why she is so close to my cousins and not me. She blamed me completely and said "I've always lived in the same house". I was orphaned at a young age and had always hoped for someone to help me. I see her attending graduations, commenting on pictures, making visits with my cousins but has pretended I didn't exist my whole life. My guess is she doesn't want to associate with the broken family members. Hearing Morgan affirm that it is the adults job to be there for the children in the family gave me a great deal of comfort and relief. The guilt and shame I feel for not being able to create a relationship with the adults in my life has burdened me until I'm almost 30. Never again. I now focus on building a relationship with my child and my nieces/nephews or kids in my family so they never feel like they are without someone supporting or loving them. I will always be there.
Would you expect your children and nephews/nieces to be responsible for keeping up your relationship? I guess you wouldn’t because that is a ridiculous expectation to have for a child. Why then would that be any different for you and your grandmother?
Story 4: I was literally singing Mama's boy, Mama's boy. Ofc the golden child doesn't understand why their relationship isn't as good. Sister is very lucky to have found a healthy, genuine relationship with a person who actually cared about her. I'm really sorry about her loss, Prof was clearly a very important person, and they sound like they were a wonder to be around.
I will say me and my brother are in the same boat with our mother. Only grew up with mom. She spoiled my brother and mistreated me. It’s a long story. But we have always had two different versions of our mother. But something I will say as the sister that was treated poorly. I don’t feel it’s right to convince my brother my mother isn’t a good mom. She was to him and that makes me happy at least. I love my brother and we went through enough with our dad. Even though he’s the oldest I still will protect my brother. And as long as she is good to him then there’s no reason for me to put him in the middle.
As a kid I did envy him. When I was 16 I blew up one day telling him how spoiled he was and how I was treated like nothing. It ended in him crying and me storming off. And honestly it made me feel terrible. Because he wasn’t the issue! Don’t direct your anger to the wrong person. I learned to be happy for my bother and patient with my mother. Because I have a little brother as well now and he loves my mother too. Even though I raised him once I left she did put in the effort to make him happy. And as much as I don’t like my mother I love her for loving my brothers. But I know many others will disagree with me. But I feel it’s the most mature thing to do. My brother knows I’m not as close to our mom. But he also knows he can share good memories about her to me and I can share bad memories about her to him. Without arguing which story is the real version of our mom.
@@layladavis02the brother could’ve also just let it be. The sister has her version of the mom he has his. It’s a tattoo on her body. The parent is the one who needs to do internal work and not continue to demonize the daughter in front of the brother affecting their relationship. Everything else you said I agree with. But the brother isn’t a young teen who just saw a situation and was trying to help. This is grown people having a conversation making something tragic the daughter went through, and the brother deciding his version of mom is right and invalidating everything she went through.
exactly! it’s also very telling that he cared more about mom’s feeling rather than his sister’s feelings who is grieving.
Side note Love that songgggg 😂
@@layladavis02Just know this one thing: her spoiling your brother is still abuse. Look into narcissists and the golden child is what I would suggest. But you are right to not blame your brother.
Story 4: She was leaving shortly after they got sober, he had years with them in the same house as sober, active, involved parents. Had her parents put effort into building a relationship while she was in college, really celebrated her achievements, maybe she would feel more connected. But instead she had to get that from another person. Someone else was her comfort, her inspiration, her cheerleader, her mom.
I would like to know what kind of rehab they went to cause being told to make amends is a big thing and she should have been the first stop on redemption road.
the third story….. HAS to be weaponized incompetence. like i’m so pissed just listening to this i can’t even imagine actyally living with a man like that!!! like how do you 1.) forget the hot pot on the stove 2.) THEN put it in the sink on top of plastic 3.) THENNNNNNNNNN. PUT THE HOT POT ON THE COUNTER TOP???? 4.) THENNNN!!!!??!?! PUT A CUP ON THE HOT BURNER?!?!?!?!
Literally sounds like he’s on something
I read this story when op first posted. People asked if she was that desperate to have a man to stay with him after everything he’s done & continues to do. Was he making these mistakes before they had a baby?? She mentioned all of this happened after their baby was born. He definitely started acting stupid so she can be the one to DO IT ALL
He’s probably having an affair.
I'm thinking affair, drugs, or a neurological issue.
That was my thought at first but then it went too far. Like weaponized incompetence is something like not ever changing the diaper correctly to get out of changing diapers. But ruining two cars? There’s no benefit in that for him. So that’s why I felt there was something more!
1:48:17 as someone who in 6th grade had to sit through an explanation of how my teacher had just had a miscarriage due to a hole in the babies heart after another student decided to ask her if she was pregnant. never ask someone if someone is pregnant.
Story 3 - my partner was EXACLTY like this until he got sober.
I was going to say it sounds like he’s on drugs or something. My ex hid a pill addiction from me for like 6 months left a pot on the stove for like 3 hours burner on no water
I was coming here to say he’s definitely on drugs or something
When he said he was going to put grape juice in his wine bottle is when I knew 😭
That ring was the sweater curse. (Knitters know what I mean) He spent so much time an effort and all she ended up caring about is the stone. It’s a real diamond!!!! It being grown in a lab is the only way to guarantee it’s not a blood diamond no matter what a supplier of mined diamonds will claim.
I haven't heard that term aside from a red diamond. What is the meaning behind that? I've connected it to how dangerous it is to mine, environmentally and physically.
@@Gabitronia Britannica describes them like this:
"Blood diamond, as defined by the United Nations (UN), any diamond that is mined in areas controlled by forces opposed to the legitimate, internationally recognized government of a country and that is sold to fund military action against that government"
1:18:55 she is getting divorced. She’s already talked to an attorney in what his rights are to her assets. “Just so you know, he will read this, love alone isn’t enough and sometimes involves divorce.”
She added these after the fact and told us thereafter to read between the lines for the hidden meaning.
She wrote the post cryptic so that he doesn't find out that she is divorcing him. Must have been abusive towards her after reading the post and the comments.
She posted the edit when she was sure that his hatred for reddit had peaked and he wouldn't check the post again. I feel very bad for her. She is afraid. But hopefully her preparation will help her survive this shitstorm. I just hope she wins!
Good call on the whole pregnancy topic at the end. As an echo tech in a hospital I saw a coworker take in a patient for get a cardiac ultrasound and my coworker looked at her and saw she looked 8 months pregnant or so. Immediately congratulated her when taking her back and she said ,”yea no, not pregnant, I’m in end stage liver failure…so yea I get that a lot.” My coworkers was immediately embarrassed.
Story #3
-is either on substances
-Is using her as a free ride and doesn’t care
-Or has something medically wrong
-could Possibly be all three 😅
Door #1
@@annedoll1360 was my first thought 😅
And brain tumor was thrown out there first 🤔
How are you and I the only ones getting this? ITS DRUGS!
Drugs and medical conditions don’t make you destroy everyone else’s things and never your own.
Story 3!
As a mother to a young toddler, all I could hear is, "This person is a danger to that child!"
Spilled medication, hot elements, driving accidents, creating a potential safety risk with our transportation, and doors left open! Absolutely not! He could seriously hurt that child or worse!
I flat out told my husband that if he were to start doing things that caused him to be a danger to our daughter, I'm calling the proper channels to remove the danger until it's solved or identified! And that I expect him to do the same if it were me!
Story 4: Honestly, OP and his parents seem self-involved. Like they didn't even try to connect with their daughter/sister and then act shocked when she makes a family for herself with her friends/professor.
Edit: yeah OP buried the lead by saying his parents are former addicts who probably ruined their daughter's high school experience with their actions.
It's even more confusion. The story says they aren't that far apart age wise, so they both experienced it, op was ready to support them and strengthen relationships when the parents overcame their addiction, the older sister held resentment, I want to know how they are personality wise, because this doesn't sound like an issue of golden child syndrome or op being self involved, people can see personal situation and see it differently
No, it definitely sounds like golden child vs scapegoat. The Mom is at least a narcissist. She cares so much about her kids hurting her feelings. She is playing the victim. Covert narcissists do this. I have experience with this. OP sounds like he is turning into a covert narcissist as well. He is playing it off as being understanding and mature, but he said she was cruel. He is taking sides and trying to support his Mom making his sister the villain.
The professor and her husband are awesome for showing her she is worth love and care, btw. I feel so much for the sister, losing probably the closest person to her.
@@mangopyximy mother is a narcissist/ sociopath. I was kinda adopted by my friends parents. My uncle and aunt.
My parents didn't go to my graduation.
I had to save money up for glasses so i could see the chalkboard.
@@dream6562you’ve clearly never been an older sibling trying to shield a younger sibling from the awful realities of abuse.
When you care about your little sibling you try everything you can to keep them distracted from what’s really going on, even if the younger sibling may know things were bad, there is a very good chance that he was shielded from things his sister wasn’t, and the brother clearly now has a golden child type relationship with the parents because he never saw them the way she did.
The story with the husband making mistakes especially after the birth of his daughter: the couple of lines that got me was dropping drugs and not getting all of them, and that he frequently brings her grapefruit juice with her medication. You aren’t supposed to have anything grapefruit when you have medication. It can really affect the efficacy of medications. Almost make them ineffective! Is that actually right there malicious?
Ngl part of me felt like this was the beginning of a true crime case, like he was intentionally trying to kill op and their daughter, cause he realized he didn't wanna be a dad, but would lose money if they divorced
@@laureng.3785 THIS IS HOW I FELT ABOUT THE LEAVING THE DOOR OPEN WITH THE LOUD GAMING NOISES
The girlfriend in the first story wanting a natural diamond is a huge red flag by itself... being upset at the price, not appreciating the time and work that went into it, AND wanting a blood diamond?? Yuck.
Um, no. Wanting a natural diamond isn't a red flag by itself
@@hayamirin6795if you read anything about natural diamond mining ever you’d not want one. Asking for a new natural diamond is definitely a red flag. What popped into my mind is it’s like asking for elephant tusks as a gift, it’s something obtained through inhuman suffering. But in the case of diamonds it’s people being exploited.
@@hayamirin6795Even indirectly supporting an industry that deals in child and slave labor is a big red flag to many. There are alternatives that are ethical that also also coincidentally cheaper.
@@hayamirin6795Yes it is, lmao. Do you not know how "natural" diamonds are mined, and who ends up doing the actual labor? A lot of the times, actual legit slaves.
@@hayamirin6795 Um, yes. A lab-produced diamond is the exact same thing as a mine-produced diamond. The only difference is that one requires horrific levels of child slave labor and the other does not. If my partner values a diamond based on the amount of human suffering it took to produce; then yea that's a red flag.
Story 4: idk if this is other peoples experience or not, but as a oldest sibling, I've noticed me and my sister do tend to view our parents differently, thankfully we both have a good relationship with them, but I definitely saw a lot more of the not so great sides of my parents than my little sister did, idk if that was because with me they were just learning to be parents and with her they knew a little bit, or if it was because i did try and shield her from that kind of stuff when we were younger Edit to add: also just heard the parentification part, THIS! Im so happy morgan talked about how this happens to older siblings and especially oldest female siblings. That definitely feels like what happened
My husband made my ring. It's not perfectly round, but he created his own Damascus ring. I got to see it as a random piece of metal before it became my ring. It's crazy to me to judge a ring your partner freaking MADE for you and prioritizing material over the actual labor of love.
I was 8 months along and VERY visibly pregnant. A sweet lady asked when I was due and I was feeling spicy that day and said "excuse me? I'm not pregnant." She kept trying to sputter out an apology and I eventually had to tell her I was just kidding and was due the next month, lol. She was so relieved 😂😂😂
Me starting off the third story with 'Is something medically wrong here? ;;;' then hearing his unmatched dedication to his own shit then legitimately ENDANGERING HIS FAMILY with the door debacle and the stove??? And I didn't even hear him ever apologize to her, just excuses?????
BIG fucking nope...
Right? I was like “He must have a brain tumor to be this careless” but the fine with his own stuff? Nah that’s on purpose.
Story 3 reminds me of the reddit story of the friend who was suspicious of her friends boyfriend who kept on having "accidents" that only affected and hurt her friend it started with spilling drinks on her then falling on her, then accidentally giving her something she's allergic too. Then falling and causing her harm.
For story 3: yeah I’d be changing the WiFi password… it’s not like he pays for it anyways
Story 4 YTA. This such a beautiful way of memorialising a very special person in her life. This has nothing to do with mum and how she feels! This is ALL about this sister and her grief 😢
Story 3: he deffffffff has a drinking problem. that makes everything make sense - the forgetting things, dropping things, driving car into the garage, multiple trips to store. def a closeted alcoholic
You can smell the alcohol and someone though extremely easily.. especially as a married couple, all she has to do is go near him or have a face-to-face conversation with him and she’s going to smell the alcohol immediately
You'd be surprised partners will often ignore alcohol issues. @@baileyspeltbeefy1768
@@baileyspeltbeefy1768alcoholics are very good at hiding they’re alcoholics. if he’s hanging out in the garage all day while she’s working, she most likely will not be able to smell it, especially if he is covering it with something.
@@baileyspeltbeefy1768 I used to deal with substance abuse and I was scared as hell that someone is going to notice. I brushed my teeth obsessively. I don’t say he does the same thing but it COULD be a possibility.
@@tarakranzelic3549 I hope you are doing better now, that is a hard thing to struggle with and I’m assuming by “used to” that means you are sober so I just want to start by saying that’s really wonderful and something to be very proud of!
I was more so meaning like even if you can’t smell it on someone’s breath for a reason like you mentioned, the body like “sweats it out” and I’ve dated and just known multiple people who struggled with alcohol abuse, and that was something that they all had, and no matter how good they’re hygiene was, how many showers they took, or much cologne/perfume they wore you could just smell it on their body
Especially if it’s near the beginning of the day so that’s why I feel it would be hard for his wife to miss since she lives with him and is someone who is just intimately close to him
Like when it was my ex, I immediately knew just because was around them all the time, and I was constantly close to him
He would think that if you showered and himself in cologne the point where it gave me a headache because he thought that hid it but I could still smell it on him when I hugged him
Really it’s the hugs or just going in to do something where you’re that close with them where it would be impossible not to notice just in my experience
For story 5 I totally agree that people shouldn’t ask or spread pregnancy rumors until the person is ready to tell you. I had a similar thing happen to me, my fiancés whole family ended up knowing (when I didn’t even know for sure yet I was still waiting for the ultrasound appointment to confirm I was pregnant) I asked my fiance not to tell anyone until we knew for sure I was pregnant and there wasn’t any complications or problems, but he told 2 people which turned into everyone knowing. It was insane and stressful. It is the worst feeling having your medical information spread around without your consent.
I lost it at "sir... you don't have a job!!"🤣🤣 ily morgan lmao
Okay so Lauren is a genius for that decipher!
Also, Lauren’s reaction to “they got close immediately” until it states that it’s a mother/daughter style relationship🤣🤣 she’s all of us listening
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50:07 this IS weaponized incompetence. He has to go back to the store 5 times for the right items. He doesn’t mix the bottles right. He doesn’t put the diapers on right.
You’re forgetting all of the things that he gets wrong when it comes to chores that has already been said.
With story 4 Morgan hit the nail on the head with the parentifcation comment. I'd bet money the sister shielded him and basically had to raise him while her parents struggled with addiction. Then she had maybe one year of sober parents before she moved out. One year of sober parents can't heal the years of hurt, and frankly, the sister isn't obligated to fix her relationship with them. The parents are the ones who should be putting in the work, which clearly they aren't if they can't even give her flowers at graduation.
As someone who's been to AA with a family member, it's sad to hear cause they are not working their steps. Sounds like it just easier (a cop out) to deal with the younger sibling cause they don't know the damage that was actually done. They may be sober, but they don't want to face their demons, and older sibling knows them.
the third story is SUCH weaponized incompetence. seriously would rather bash my head through a wall than live with someone like that-and i almost did just listening to it lmao
Gave me flashbacks to some of my roommates.
Honestly, the stepdaughter introducing her step mom as a friend is such a win. The dad and his parents massively overreacted. She views her as a safe person, and that's the goal!
It was life changing when I realized that my sister and I experienced two different upbringings even though we grew up in the house together and she is four years older.
For story 5, I feel so sad that you feel bad for saying genuine truths about the world. She's honestly lucky she didn't do this with someone who did get bad news or she could've had an HR issue on her hands. You were well-spoken and honest, and you did it with grace. You didn't yell at her or belittle her. You made it clear that this isn't something that we should accept in the world, nor is it something to be joked about. Even getting pregnant comes with complications and fears, that's why people wait to announce 🙄
Alright Morgan, wedding advice here from a man coming up on three year anniversary. Biggest suggestion I can have is to get a wedding planner. It’s a ton of work even when you have a planner helping out. Communicate with your fiancé first and foremost and don’t worry if something doesn’t go as planned because it’ll make a great story later! Get pics done early in the night so you don’t have to worry about them from there on and don’t skimp cost on photographer because they can add or detract a lot from the experience. Seating charts take a long time so start those early if you’re doing assigned seating. You guys seem like a sturdy couple so just keep up the communication lines and enjoy the experience because it’s so much fun!
YES. I didn’t think we needed a wedding planner but my mother gifted us the fees for a really good one. So wonderful so necessary and both my wife and I are neurospicy.
story 3 - He is only breaking things that “aren’t his”. none of his things are mysteriously being broken and he is careful with his things but not shared or hers.
the third story is making me feel like a wild animal. he is doing this on purpose
Absolutely sobbed when you started talking about it’s the parents responsibility to mend the relationship. I’ve worked through this in therapy so much with the relationship with one of my parents. Thank you thank thank you for saying it all out loud.
Ring story brings back old memories lol. 7 years ago when I was 19, I was proposed to by my then boyfriend. Loved the ring. We were on a very fixed income, didn't have extra money to spend at that time. I found out the ring had real dimonds and was very expensive. Was pretty upset that he took a loan out to buy a RING. We fought about it a lot. Ended up returning the ring, and we bought another one at Walmart for a fraction of the price. We are no longer married, but I still have the ring, still beautiful as ever even though it didn't have "real" stones.
Story 3: As someone who's lived with multiple alcoholics he is 100% an alcoholic. I don't think the OP even knew when she made her original post genuinely, based on her description of her health it seems like it would be very easy for someone to sneak around her. Especially someone she trusted so deeply. By her updates it seems like she knows now but that explains every one of his actions down to leaving the stove burner on. I think the "fake wine" comment was about his guilt showing so now the only time he was visibly drinking in front of her is now covered.
It's actually an insane perspective to alcoholism because it happened right under her nose and she genuinely thought something was wrong with him, him being an alcoholic didn't even cross her mind. Normally people in the alcoholic's lives, such as spouses, see the decline in front of their eyes so it's not a surprise it's more of a denial. She's not in denial she just had absolutely no idea.
Also I know morgan tweaks over the comments so please don't be upset, but for a lot of alcoholics 0% beer is a trigger and not a solution. Totally cool that you guys are sponsored by them sometimes, they are a good alternative for people with medical conditions or the elderly. But they are not really a recommendable solution for most people with alcohol addiction.
Story 1 - NTA. I can’t believe OP worked on it for 3 months and she had the audacity to nitpick the diamond. Also she didn’t seem to have a problem with the design of it, she had a problem with the VALUE of the diamond. That is so telling into the person she is. I would’ve sobbed after working on something for 3 months just for it to be critiqued. All she cares about is the money he spent, not the blood sweat and tears he put into the gesture.
That’s what I was thinking the whole time, like I didn’t even care what my fiancé spent on my ring and the only time I found out how much it really was, was when I needed to get it cleaned and I needed the receipt to take it in and honestly I was RELIEVED he only spent like 300 on it because I don’t know how people feel comfortable wearing thousands of dollars worth of a ring it gives me anxiety, my man could have proposed with a ring pop and I would have still said yes 😂
i think this story is probably ragebait for those exact reasons
Story 3: this guy hates his wife. He probably resents her for functioning properly as an adult even after the accident.
1:24:19 I will die on the hill that parents are supposed to go out of their way for their kids. If you want to bond with your kid, you go out of your way to find out that she wants flowers. That’s it. Or you don’t get to be angry or resentful. I grew up relating to Matilda and I’ll tell you that it does so much more for you, to feel seen then to have family. Sometimes family doesn’t see you.
I kinda got this feeling as I listened. It sucks that OP’s sister isn’t close to their mom but that’s on their mom.
Story 3: Those are NOT accidents, and it's NOT medical. Because if that were the case he'd have those "accidents" in every part of his life not just when it related to the things that belonged to his wife and child. But no, HIS stuff is safe.
Way more likely that in the process of getting more active on the internet he's gotten sucked into the Andrew Tate black hole.
So no, he's just been mentally torturing his wife so that he wouldn't have to be responsible for any kind of housework or childcare (and with that open door thing even endangering his wife and child in order to mentally torture her).
This story absolutely DOES call for divorce.
A tip I learned in wedding planning is, if you can not mention it's for a wedding do it. Once vendors or businesses hear the word wedding, they will up the charge for the same product/service. Even if that service or product doesn't change regardless of the guests amount.
Story 2: my mom died when I was 18, and 20 years later, I miss her everyday still. My dad married my stepmother when I was 11, and she is the most amazing mother. She was one of my biggest support person through losing my mother, an amazing grandmother to my kids, and though i still call her by first name (mainly just out of habit) she calls me her daughter. I say this to say there are amazing step parents out there.. people who have no problem loving their kids, even the ones they didn't conceive, and I hope the teen in story 2 is able to open her heart and know it's okay to have 2 moms. If I died tomorrow, I would hope my kids would find someone that loved them as much as I do, because they deserve it. It wouldn't be a disrespect of my memory, us mothers want our kids to have as much love as possible. And love is not a finite resource, you don't max out on it.
Yeah but the step mom is being very respectful towards the daughter's wishes, she's not forced to call her mom, the husband and in laws are the problem here, they truly despised the mom and do not care that she died, but the daughter CARES, THAT WAS HER MOM and she has the final word on how she refers to her step mom
Nah, the gf in the first story is shallow. He spent months on making a ring that fits her taste and it was apparently perfect, minus the lab-diamond. If her point of contention was value and not the look or fit, then yeah it IS materialistic. If I spent months making something for my bf and he said “it’s not good enough for me” I would also rethink our relationship. She can be materialistic if she wants, just not with that man who worked so hard to make something beautiful for her.
So the stepmom story had me crying, I am a step mom myself. I've been in my stepdaughter's life since she was two, so I've always been mom to her. Her mom was struggling with mental health and addiction, she's now sober and has limited contact with my daughter. They are building a relationship, but I am still mom to her, even though she knows the truth, I try to help her have a healthy relationship with her mother. It warms my heart so much to see that stepmom advocate for the stepdaughter and what she wants, no matter how hard it may be as well.
35:16 I had to take a break, I had to get up and scream in my kitchen, hot pots DON’T GO ON THE COUNTERHAHBRBRJWJEBJ 🤬
Omg it just kept going I was like truly what are the odds of making 6 mistakes in a row like that
11:37 okay but it is the STRAW the point of the straw that broke the camels back is that it’s a small thing but it’s the thousands of small things that have built up over time so this is THE STRAW.
I'm pretty sure parasite cleanses don't work! I would verify with a doctor that you actually have a parasite because the multivitamins for the parasite cleanse is super expensive
They’re definitely a scam, if you believe you have a parasite see a doctor!
hi! Not American but living in America now. In nearly every other country I’ve been to, and the country I’m personally from, parasite cleanses are normal and encouraged periodically based on certain symptoms (frequent bubble guts/IBS being one). It’s common to get parasites from many things but especially if you eat meat of any kind. Almost guarantee that you’d expel some nasty worms 🪱 if you have never done one.
Also, morgan & loren/lauren? So sorry if I messed up the spelling 😣 but look into candida overgrowth. This is something 1 in 3 women struggle with and can cause SO many issues for us.
Hope this helps anyone who may be struggling as well❤
Edit to add: purchasing wormwood and making your own tea is not too pricey, but paraguard will clean you out for a decent price! Great, natural ingredients
parasites aren't that common either! if you think you have one you should def see a doctor about it. if you're struggling with your stomach, eating more fiber and amino acids and taking pro and pre biotics is a great place to start
Lauren travels a lot so it really could be that. In Mexico we’re recommended to do one about every six months, I don’t know if they’re ineffective in the US but they’re definitely effective in Mexico.
last story: I’ve been in too many situations where a friend tells me that they’re pregnant and i first ask “you want to have it?” and then i react depending on the answer mostly bc i want them to feel im a safe place and they can really tell me if they don’t want it so i can help and support them whatever they answer is
Story #3. She has put up with sooo much. I would've snapped before but after calling/ considering him a liability. Divorce. You do not trust this man and he is showing you actively that he doesnt care about you or your daughter. I would've said "pack your bags. Call your mom. We're over. "
The stepmom in story 2 is doing an awesome job of listening to her stepdaughter and respecting that poor girl’s wishes and boundaries and it’s so sad the dad (who presumably also went to those therapy sessions?!??) isn’t doing the same thing.
as someone who’s familiar w addiction and loved many ppl w problems relating to drugs, alcohol, and mental health- i immediately called it that there was drugs involved.
Where is this weeks episode? I’ve been checking every day
Lmaoo me too
Story two...what a good step mom. Letting step daughter guide the relationship, knowing therapy was important to help find the right dynamic, accepting whatever relationship made the child safe, and then defending her to her actual biological family for belittling her. Eff the dad and in laws, step mom is being the best for step daughter and protecting her best
Exactly!!
The first story in the beginning I immediately thought he’s wrong for the fact that since I was a child I had an idea of the ring I wanted and I’d be disappointed if I got proposed to with a ring that’s not my dream ring (the one I picked out is about $100. But after I got to the middle I actually got mad… at her and he is the most thoughtful person ever
Story 3 I just do not think it's medical because he doesn't break his own stuff. If he was breaking his stuff and being careless with his stuff, then maybe it's medical or something, but if it's decreased fine motor skills it would effect his stuff too, not just hers.
I can't remember if Morgan has read it, but if it's not medical, story 3 reminds me of the guy who kept having targeted "accidents" towards his girlfriend. Where he was clumsy but only in ways that physically harmed his girlfriend and never in any other circumstance.
Edit because I hadn't heard the whole story yet: Where's the "Make It a Fair Fight" girl from TikTok when you need her? From the sounds of it, OP makes at least triple what I make but I'll pay the entire expense. Holy shit.
Story 3 - girl, i know being a single parent sucks, but you've got a supportive mom at the very least, and your husband IS a liability, very likely more than you know. At the very very least, he does not respect you, and there is no real love without respect. Kick his worse than useless ass out before your child is hurt, your house is burnt to the ground, or worse.
my sister and i were at the nail salon together, she was about a year or two post partum from a c. the nail lady finished her nails, stood up and reached across the table, jiggled her belly and said ‘oooh how far along?!’. 😭😭 my sister was so shocked and she was like ‘excuse me???’ and the lady just nervous laughed and was like ‘oh’ and walked away 😭😭😭 genuinely my jaw was on the flooooor
No, NO WAY is the 3rd story a medical issue. It could be if it was happening with everything but it is ONLY when he is doing something for the wife and daughter. Milking his wifes money and not respecting her at all. I would kick him out so fast
@@KayJoyy I’d bet MONEY it’s an affair and he’s trying to drive her away so he doesn’t have to end it.
Exactly 🤦🏻♀️ I can’t believe how everything gets swept under “oooh mental health issues” and I’m saying this as a person currently medicated for depression. Cuz even if it was, we all have to take responsibility for our actions!
Also, there’s no way his mental health only affects him when it comes to doing things for them.
Yeah he doesn’t break any of his stuff
@@kiarar.1219 yk when you have a brain tumor or other neurological issues a sudden change in personality is very common. So it's not only about the "mental health issues"
@@Mariam-do6jq you guys talk about that as if it was so common. And of course, that could be a reason, there could be a thousand reasons other then what you and I said… but what’s more probable?
I’ve seen lots of cases where men start acting up after the wife gives birth because they’re jealous of the baby. And from what I understood, mind you, I was working at the same time so maybe understood wrong, he started acting up around the same time they had the baby 🤷🏻♀️ that’s why I think it’s on purpose
Omg just finished the update now, and I’d love to know your take on that “medical fragile” comment he made 👀
"His 3 twitch followers.." Girl I laughed so hard!!!
Lauren episodes are the best. She should be in every episode along since with the other guests but she should be apart of every show.
agreeee
The natural diamond would be a a huge no for me, like you'd rather have a person possibly a child mine and maybe even die than buy me a cheaper and ethically sourced lab grown diamond? Do you even know me?
never clicked so fast bc i saw lauren on the thumbnail
Yes! Same. I love lauren sm ❤
Love you guys sm 🥰🥰
Can we just have an episode of you and Lauren talking?? Like just talking. No Reddit stories (unless you want, your podcast) but kind of like a "girls night" vibe. Viewers could get their wine and snacks (juice for the youngins) and just feel like we're all having this one big girls night/family night thing. I looooove hearing Lauren's voice and experiences. I love hearing her open up about her thoughts and I just love how you, Morgan are so supportive of her. You have such a great friendship it'd be really cool to see you two just talking like we've all known each other our while lives ❤❤
This would be so neat! I’m down!!
I second this, I love Lauren and Morgan together. Lauren is my favorite co-host
@@flowergleamandglow9317 I adore Lauren. She's so sweet ❤️
I understand what Morgan was trying to explain. I think price is the indicator word.
Something that doesn't have an astronomical price can be THE most valuable thing in the world.
I think the fiance equates price to value.
Story 3 I a year ago was in a serious accident like that and I really get what she means about permanent physical impairments and how function can vary day to day ( I was in a wheelchair a long while before I became well enough to not be. I am in my mid 20s and likely will forever walk slower and with a wobble). Existing in a wheelchair is hard at first. I cant imagine navigating that with a kid and non-present partner. I feel so sorry that she doesnt have support at home. We cant really help much with that but we are here for the emotional support.
there’s no way i caught this at 15 seconds of being uploaded?? i love it
Delay in new episode, so unlikely 😮 hope everything is okay morgan, take care.
story 3- he is absolutely a narcissist, yall are giving him too much credit
okay after the update- HE ABSOLUTELY IS
YES THANK YOU!!!
It honestly makes me wanna pull my hair out every time someone in the story is objectively just a bad person/a huge asshole and instead of just acknowledging that the host of this podcast, somehow always thinks they just have mental health issues… honestly the amount of stuff she chalks up to “they must be struggling with mental health… they are probably so depressed and them being a major AH is just making them so much more depresssed..🥺” like please come on now. Like I swear, someone could post “My husband set our house on fire cause I told him he can’t quit his job to focus on his video game obsession… AITA?” And instead of her saying “No.. your husband is a monster RUN FOR YOUR LIFE. This is the only answer in this situation.” She would probably say that there are a few possibilities and the second one would be her trying to claim the reason he wanted to quit his job and focus on video games was because he’s so depressed and the reason he burnt his house down instead of talking to his wife about it was because he’s too embarrassed to admit he struggling…🙄
Yeah she's alwaya catering to political correctness, never has an original idea
@@boredagain7545 🎯
Regarding story 1: There’s a ton of history on wedding rings over time. I believe that diamonds are valued for their perceived rarity, but in truth, there are so many that some are even discarded in the ocean to maintain their value. I agree with one of the comments about caring more about the person you love and not the value of the ring. My husband made my ring, and it’s my absolute favorite. It feels incredibly special knowing that no one else has a ring like mine, especially since part of it came from his grandmother’s jewelry. We’re celebrating 4 years of marriage this month and 9 years together, giving birth to our second baby this Saturday ❤
Honestly Morgan, going to your first wedding dress appointment by yourself can be GREAT. I did that and ended up picking some options that I liked with zero pressure or outside opinions killing my vibe. I only brought people for appointment #2 when I already had some options I liked. That way there were no bad options, and I didn't end up wasting people's time or felt pressure to pick a dress on the first day.
That is an excellent suggestion 😊
Story 4: If I'm griefing someone really important and the only thing my brother/mother care abt in that moment is that "it hurts her feelings" and "am I not good enough of a mother for you" I literally dont care abt their feelings. Like? Thats exactly why she is distant with them.
1:59 sorry wait @Morgan are you concerned and think you have parasites in your GI system? (I assume that’s what you mean with “parasite cleanse”)
Because if so, then go to a doctor!
In general, most of those “detoxes” and “cleanses” are basically unnecessary. Your organs should already be detoxifying and removing anything harmful from your system. If you’re genuinely concerned that something is wrong and that that’s not happening, then I highly recommend speaking with a doctor rather that doing a cleanse suggested by the internet 😅 too many fake internet doctors out there now too recommending “remedies” that won’t actually do anything or (depending on what they’re saying you have to do) could potentially harm your system instead
It’s like the people that recommend taking laxatives everyday to “stay regular”. What they forget to mention is that our GI system adapts and eventually you’ll be completely reliant on the laxative to go at all. If there’s an issue, talk with a doctor and only take things as prescribed 😅
@Lauren Also your GI tract should have its own healthy gut microbiome already (unless you’re taking antibiotics or something else that would potentially limit/ harm the microbiome. Probiotics are good in that situation, but typically unnecessary the rest of the time if your GI tract is functioning properly.
Again see a doctor if you’re concerned. If they recommend a brief round of probiotics then go for it
But longer term it can be a waste since your body typically just filters out anything that’s in excess. And actually taking too much probiotic can cause you GI to have more issues since it’s trying to process things that it doesn’t need/ shouldn’t be there. Too much probiotic can literally lead to build up of gas and Bloating (LAUREN) and diarrhea
Love you girlies but also maybe chill with the instagram health remedies 😂 our bodies are capable of doing so much on its own, so maybe just research more before blowing money on something that isn’t actually necessary 😅
Biggest wedding planning tip that helped sooo much was to have a wedding planner, or bridesmaid you can chat with about your ideas/plans who can take notes and break those ideas into a checklist for you to do later.
Decision paralysis is so real and this really helps to have someone helping you from idea to action. 💛 great episode and hope this helps!
Story 3 sounds like my husband😭 he won’t clean the area when he starts cooking and has burned/melted a bunch of kitchen towels and plastics around the stove while cooking. He will do things wrong w our kids and house stuff like. I lost my shit several times because there was no legit excuse for him to be so careless and has been stepping up lol
I had to come here to leave a comment because the liability story has me screaming out loud. He is 100% medically fine. The fact that he can keep his stuff nice means he knows what it means to be able to take care or pride in something. His major tell was the passive aggressive comment about "Its not like we don't have the money." I feel like he's jealous of her money. He is purposefully doing things to her and her daughters things and not his. He needs therapy and if I was OP I would kick him out. People are so much more manipulative than people realize. I'm a nurse and I agree there is a small chance something medical is going on but unfortunately in this day and age its infinitely more likely he is being petty and immature.