So that's what it looks like, I've only ever done it in the clag! P.S recently came accross your shop, pointed my wife there when she asked what I wanted for Christmas, those small manta cams made me nostalgic for my 3CUs of yesteryear.
It's stunning when the weather is good! As it happens, I still use an old red 3CU cam, which my dad bought just before I was born. Might be getting retired soon for a Manta or Permon equivalent though in the near future. - Rob
Thanks for the support!! Comments like this really are appreciated. We have two more videos in the pipeline and a ton of ideas, however Lucy tore her ACL about 3 months ago, and had ACL reconstruction surgery literally yesterday, so we are finding it really tough to actually film currently. Stay tuned, videos will start coming faster in the near future!
@@danh2310at the ledge before the crux chimney go down left about 2-3 metres and go up the gulley 5-10 metres and then come back up right to bypass it. You’ll join the ridge back just after the main pinnacle you see in all the photos and then it’s an okay top out path. Probably making the route grade 2
Thanks for the feedback! Yeah, audio is the main thing we would change about this video ourselves, working on it & hopefully future videos will have better audio quality! - Rob
It's not too bad, if you're a confident climber you can do it without a rope (which Rob did), but I opted for a rope just to be on the safe side. It's quite short though and over very quickly!
No, I don't think PR is the hardest scramble in England. Easy Terrace and continuation on Dow, Ill Crag SE Face and Thor's Buttress in Upper Eskdale, Sandbed Gill in St. John's in the Vale, Kirk Fell Gill, Striddle Crag Buttress and Honister Crag are all harder and more serious than PR. But I do think that PR is the BEST scramble in England.
Rob here. That's a fair take! The title was posing a bit of a rhetorical question as "scramble" is a bit of a nebulous term. For example, would personally class Giant's Crawl on Dow as a 3S/3+ scramble as it fits my definition a route on steep rock that's possible (although not necessarily advisable) without a rope, although others would consider it firmly a climb and think of doing it without a rope an "easy solo" rather than a scramble. Equally on the other end of the scale - is striding edge really a scramble? Or just an exposed walk? Given the above, I doubt that there is objectively a "hardest" or "easiest" scramble - if you chose the hardest line on PR, e.g. taking the crux slab direct rather than via the corner, then the technical difficulty might surpass the easiest lines up the routes you mentioned. Equally you might class that line as "PR with VD variation on the crux pitch". Either way, it is definitely the most alpine of the scrambles in the lakes I have done and that 100% puts it in contention for the "best"!
@@SgurrClimbing Yep, interesting topic of discussion. All "definitions" of anything empirically real are "fuzzy" around the edges. I'd say Striding is an easy scramble, right at the bottom of the scrambling spectrum. At the other end of the scale, I'd go for your second take on Giant's Crawl - it's a low-grade climb that many competent climbers would be prepared to solo (same goes for Corvus). I don't think this can serve as a consistent criterion for classifying such climbs as scrambles, since a lot of climbers, including myself, are prepared to solo much harder climbs than that. My hardest solo was Kransic Crack Direct (HVS) on Shepherd's. I don't think that brings KCD into the realms of scrambling. Take it to the extreme and you have Alex Honnold soloing Freerider on El Capitan. To the vast majority of climbers that remains a very hard climb. It doesn't become a scramble just because someone has proved it is possible to solo it.
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Ohmygosh that looks quite a challenge!
I love the background music. Having some throughout the video will help (it is very powerful). Lucy's commentary is very good👌
Love this! Keep it uppp
Yous make it look like a walk in the park 😂 slab and notch looks on another level
So that's what it looks like, I've only ever done it in the clag!
P.S recently came accross your shop, pointed my wife there when she asked what I wanted for Christmas, those small manta cams made me nostalgic for my 3CUs of yesteryear.
It's stunning when the weather is good!
As it happens, I still use an old red 3CU cam, which my dad bought just before I was born. Might be getting retired soon for a Manta or Permon equivalent though in the near future.
- Rob
THAT'S WHERE IT WENT! Grrr
New to your channel, keep the videos coming
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Well done guys. I've done Jack's Rake and Sharp and Striding edges, but that Pinnacle ridge looks a cut above! Especially if you wear hiking boots?!
I don't think it looks too bad apart from that last bit. Apparently there's bail out options if you don't feel confident.
@@danh2310at the ledge before the crux chimney go down left about 2-3 metres and go up the gulley 5-10 metres and then come back up right to bypass it. You’ll join the ridge back just after the main pinnacle you see in all the photos and then it’s an okay top out path. Probably making the route grade 2
@@Reece111 thanks mate
Not sure if it's just me but make sure the audio is panned out properly. Good video over all though
Thanks for the feedback! Yeah, audio is the main thing we would change about this video ourselves, working on it & hopefully future videos will have better audio quality!
- Rob
You made that look easy, im planning on St Sunday this summer. How was the Crux section?
It's not too bad, if you're a confident climber you can do it without a rope (which Rob did), but I opted for a rope just to be on the safe side. It's quite short though and over very quickly!
Fantastic video!
How long did the journey take you end to end?
In total it took us 9hrs car to car - just under 20km and 1,400m of elevation!
Amazing video - some quality climbing/travelling/hiking content! :) What approach shoes do you use for scrambling?
Thank you so much! I use Scarpa Mojitos (which are nearing 9 years old now) and Rob uses the La Sportiva Boulder X shoes :)
No, I don't think PR is the hardest scramble in England. Easy Terrace and continuation on Dow, Ill Crag SE Face and Thor's Buttress in Upper Eskdale, Sandbed Gill in St. John's in the Vale, Kirk Fell Gill, Striddle Crag Buttress and Honister Crag are all harder and more serious than PR. But I do think that PR is the BEST scramble in England.
Rob here. That's a fair take! The title was posing a bit of a rhetorical question as "scramble" is a bit of a nebulous term. For example, would personally class Giant's Crawl on Dow as a 3S/3+ scramble as it fits my definition a route on steep rock that's possible (although not necessarily advisable) without a rope, although others would consider it firmly a climb and think of doing it without a rope an "easy solo" rather than a scramble. Equally on the other end of the scale - is striding edge really a scramble? Or just an exposed walk?
Given the above, I doubt that there is objectively a "hardest" or "easiest" scramble - if you chose the hardest line on PR, e.g. taking the crux slab direct rather than via the corner, then the technical difficulty might surpass the easiest lines up the routes you mentioned. Equally you might class that line as "PR with VD variation on the crux pitch".
Either way, it is definitely the most alpine of the scrambles in the lakes I have done and that 100% puts it in contention for the "best"!
@@SgurrClimbing Yep, interesting topic of discussion. All "definitions" of anything empirically real are "fuzzy" around the edges. I'd say Striding is an easy scramble, right at the bottom of the scrambling spectrum. At the other end of the scale, I'd go for your second take on Giant's Crawl - it's a low-grade climb that many competent climbers would be prepared to solo (same goes for Corvus). I don't think this can serve as a consistent criterion for classifying such climbs as scrambles, since a lot of climbers, including myself, are prepared to solo much harder climbs than that. My hardest solo was Kransic Crack Direct (HVS) on Shepherd's. I don't think that brings KCD into the realms of scrambling. Take it to the extreme and you have Alex Honnold soloing Freerider on El Capitan. To the vast majority of climbers that remains a very hard climb. It doesn't become a scramble just because someone has proved it is possible to solo it.