I think the first time I saw it was Super Monkey Ball: Banana Mania when they removed the Dole logo from any part of any levels that had it(including the bananas)
I think it helped that Nintendo went out of their way to get the license just to add nods to the players. Vs. movies and other games where the products' companies paid to have their product prominent everywhere or shoehorned unnatural into them.
gamers be like yes we hate advertisers, we're communists and antiwork but then complain about removal of ads because it loses an "important part" of the original game 😂😂
@maximemht1015 The advertisements in Pikmin 2 DO serve a purpose, they drive home the fact that we are on Earth, where humans once inhabited it. With that knowledge in mind, it would make sense if there were real human brands here, because they fit with the setting the game is set in.
I wouldn't be surprised. Studying graphic design history brings an understanding of stylistic evolution in all walks of life, be it at-the-time modernism or projected futurism that never happened. It's a helpful tool to use when creating content set in a time period and keeping to said era's authenticity.
Although the original product placement was fun, I'm just glad to see they put serious effort into a lot of the new designs. It isn't just entirely word art and flat colours. Like I love the little drawn peanut guys on the updated peanut butter jar treasure.
This game does it so well because it does not feel like an advertisement. The game shows you what the product is but never really elaborates on it, instead only giving you what the characters name it and what the sales pitch for it on an alien planet could be, and what a tiny little alien man would think of it and it’s origin. Still kinda upset they used a maple leaf this time around for that one treasure. : (
Nintendo couldn't gain the licensing to these brands as the license expired. They had a VERY difficult time doing so the first time. I understand why Nintendo didn't do this a second time. It would've been a nightmare all over again
I generally wonder what happened the first time since pikmkn 2 wii was heavily delayed in the US..tho the wiiu port was fine I assume. Only weird advertising that got cut was the nintendo website link in one of the emails
I'm impressed, these actually look like real generic brands. And they didn't have to totally change the object like when they changed it from Japanese to English.
Yeah. It strikes the perfect balance of things we would still recognize while avoiding the legal nightmare of branding. It’s the exact type of thing you’d find in a dollar store.
The new Hypnotic Platter design being a special design for that brand's 19th anniversary is actually a really clever nod to Pikmin 2 being 19 years old!
It is unfortunate that all the designs of the actual treasures have been changed, but all the new designs are so elaborate that they make you think you might have seen them before.
@@The_JzoliI get what you mean, looking at this the only brands I recognize are Duracell, 7up and Wilson, so I assume most of the other brands must be only US/Canada brands or some such
I like that, despite the texture changes, they kept the reference to Duracell Batteries in one of the names. Neat little nod of friendship considering that company contributed the first treasure players found in the original version.
Gonna miss the og textures. They really made the world feel real as though I could expect a tiny man with an army of plants walking through my backyard
But Hocotatians prefer vegetables and occasionally meats, not fruit, so the choice of fruit is a bit odd, vegetable themed stuff would’ve made more sense imo
Ironically enough if i hadn't seen this video and had purchased the pikmin 2 switch version i think 90% of these changes would have gone over my head, though Duracell would have been a huge red flag cause for some reason the big D battery in the first level is engrained into my memory of the game, and the bottle caps would have sparked some curiosity because i would have vague memories of product placement but no solid examples aside from the batteries. Still very interesting and all the new designs look professionally done and amazing feels like they hired a skilled graphic designer specifically for this xD
I distinctly remembered the pickle jar lid and it's absence is what made me stop and realize that they replaced everything with generics instead of the original product placement.
well actually☝️🤓 There are many treasures that change depending on the region on the GC & Wii version. The most famous being the MJ leaf, that has changed in the EU version for a maple leaf.
Honestly, all of the products they created as replacements are really well designed. They look like real products. Ribbon's Peanut Butter even has little peanut mascots.
Despite no longer being DIRECT references, a few of these still contain references. For example, the tennis ball cap "Activity Arouser" is labled "Tarai" which is an anagram of "Atari", who's more prominent early games was Tennis.
It's insane to me not only how real the replacement brands look, but also how perfectly they capture the spirit of 2000's brand design. That takes an insane level of self awareness to properly pull off they really nailed it
ive never played or really have been interested in pikmin, but the fact they had official licensed products to be found was like if you were actually exploring the real world and finding stuff around on the ground and i absolutely love that, such a freaking shame it's been changed, but i understand why
Alot of these new designs feel like I've seen them at a Dollar Tree store in the early 2000's, that's how of the time they feel. Especially the Batteries.
I saw the peanut butter while playing the game and thought to myself "Wait, did they not remove ALL of the product placement?" The little peanut characters make it look so much like an actual brand
Everyone keeps saying that Nintendo lost the licensing agreement for these brands, but I don't think that is the main reason for the de-branding of Pikmin 2. This was never an issue for the Wii or Wii U re-releases. I think it's more likely that the generic treasures had to be made for the new Korean and Chinese localizations, then the decision was made to use them for all regions since that is easier / cheaper than re-acquiring the licenses.
1. it never released on the Wii u as a Wii U edition 2. for the Wii version it came out only a few years later which means they still had the licence 3. its because if they released it with the brand names they would get sued a lot a lot. Edit: I changed number 1 because people keep saying it was released on the Wii U even though they are talking about the emulator that was released
@Fllook12 The WiiU wasn't like the Switch, you could actually buy previous gen games on it, including GBA and DS (GB/GBC where 3ds only and the GameCube library was never available for download). This included the Wii versions of Pikmin 1 and 2.
@@berry.1uvr Virtual console games are just emulated versions of older games, not remasters. Since they were just running old games they likely did not have to renew licenses for them.
Drought ender being a coconut water brand with a palm and water makes much more sense than Dr. Pepper since olimar's species might not know how to read English/human language, but could identify the picture. Same goes for flavor gate and the aloe balm. Having pictures explains how their species would get so close to the original meaning of the object
Thank God the replacements actually look good. Same weekend keep the product placement but I totally understand why and this helps the game have more longevity if for whatever reason it re-releases again
What really tickled me was that they even added nutrient facts to items which would naturally have them irl. They really didn't have to do it, but they made all of these feel like actual items you'd find in the real world, with the tiny little details on real packages and everything. This is the best possible outcome from a Pikmin 2 re-release imo. Now lets talk about that horrid squished font lmao
maybe it's because I'm not an absolutely soulless man-in-suit who runs a billion dollar company and yet can't fathom losing a single dollar, but I can't fathom why you WOULDN'T want your product in a NINTENDO GAME
These are literally the embodiment of that ‘mom can we get X?’ ‘We have X at home’ meme. It’s a shame to see the actual logos go since that added to the game’s charm, but its hardly game breaking and I fully understand why. At least now they have a version they can port over way easier to future consoles if needed. My only nitpick with the new designs is some of them have fictional brands while most don’t, leaving a lot of them looking more generic than others.
I got a feeling that the 19th anniversary orange juice bottle cap could also be talking about how its been 19 years since PIKMIN 2 was first brought out on gamecube. April 29th 2004, 19 years and about 3 months since it was first released
I was initially pretty upset about the product placement being removed, but i'd say at least half of the new ones are either just as good or in some cases better than previous. Also, it's only about 10% of the total treasure hoard, so it won't be too noticeable overall. My only complaint is that the change from carmex -> aloe vera cream changes the color of the item from yellow to green. In my opinion, the yellow carmex texture served a gameplay purpose, clueing in the player that this item can only be obtained with yellow pikmin, and is the first item in the game the player encounters that is locked behind yellows. This creates a subtle mental association with the color yellow and high places very early on in the game. I wish they had kept the yellow coloration when they changed the branding, but I suppose green is better than any of the other existing pikmin colors.
You can actually get that treasure with Purples too if you throw them with momentum into the right part of the wall there. I don't remember but you might even be able to do that with other colors too? But purple is easiest since you only need to do it once
@@pikmin937 It doesn't matter if you can jank the treasure down with other pikmin, the purpose is to associate the color yellow with treasures located in very high spots. This is about teaching the player game mechanics through environmental cues.
Most people playing 2 will likely have played 1 (and maybe even 3) and know about the yellow’s high throwing ability already, on top of the game mentioning it anyway. Not a huge loss
@IceBlueLugia yeah, plus you'd have to go through that area with a squad of yellows anyway in order to get to the electric gate barring the Blue Pikmin, so there's little chance of missing the item without a squad of yellows on hand.
we lost every major, food, drink, battery, and non consumable object in pikmin 2. RIP funny brand references. (on a side note. Alot of the new designs reminded me of store brand stuff, so solid job on their part)
Wow! I was aware of the Duracell battery and the 7up bottle cap as Pikmin treasures, but I didn’t realize how many other real-world products were featured in the series. Did they use the same brands across all different regions? I can't imagine Vlasic having the same level of recognition in Europe or Japan as in the United States.
I know the european version changed a lot of the treasures, not sure about the japanese one, but I'd highly reccomend checking the wiki to see all the differences across all the versions
Oh, they changed a LOT of treasures for the Japanese release. Some ones I know off the top of my head are that the Ancient Ad Series is completely gone, as is the Survival Series; the latter is exclusive to the American version. Interestingly, the Alien Billboard is still in the Japanese version, but it’s in the Odd Logo Series instead. There’s now an entire series dedicated to the little paper covers of Japanese milk cartons, called the Mystical Disc Series, which has I think 12 entries, each one a different brand. I also know that the Duracell batteries are completely gone, instead replaced by a different company in Japan. There’s actually six batteries in the Japanese version, not four. Those are just the changes I know off the top of my head. There’s WAY more where that came from.
I was initially a bit sad they had to change these, but whoever did the new textures in the Switch version did a great job making them believable, and not sticking out like a sore thumb
That Duracell was only good till March 2010 as seen on the label. Old batteries are dangerous to keep around, so they swapped it with a newer one. Nintendo looking out for us.
The removal of the Dr. Pepper cap, and the Ragu lid (while, for good reason) hurts my childhood soul... Playing Pikmin 2 while I was little, Ragu-made Pasta in one hand and Dr. Pepper in the other. Finding those treasures, made for a truly unforgettable experience. R.I.P 2004 Nintendo brand deals.
I understand why the changes were made. This isn't like keeping the Kawasaki brand in Wave Race 64, that's just one company. To get all the contracts and approvals from all the multiple companies could take forever.
I played Pikmin 2 for the first time in 2017 shortly after my dad's passing to get my mind off of things, but when I saw the Kiwi shoe polish and the Chap Stick (Items that my dad used back in his day), I chose to put the game down. It got a little uncomfortable that the game was reminding me of my late dad.😅 Just a weird coincidence I guess.
I wish they would’ve went for making up brand names instead of just mostly generic products descriptors. I adore stupid brand names and this was the perfect opportunity
It's not that devastating. Plus it didn't *HAVE* to be done like this, Nintendo most likely was just being greedy and didn't want to pay royalties, despite being a billion times richer than they where back then.
@@stanley8006One might say greed but they did just give literally everyone a 10% raise so idk lol. I think it was to save money but at least they're using that money for something other than dividends.
@@imselfaware419 Paying royalties? In the original release, it's the companies that paid Nintendo, they could easily allow everything again for free or even better, the original contracts should be valid for future rereleases.
Yep, I agree. Same for us here in Singapore where we received North American NTSC Nintendo stuff as part of what would merge to become the 'Middle East and Southeast Asia' system region during the Wii U and 3DS era.
Most of the jars lids and bottle caps are exclusive to the us release along with the survival series of treasures Japan's exclusive treasures are mostly tabs from the tops of milk bottles a popsicle stick and some kitchenware there's also less batteries and the few that are in the game use national hitop brand batteries instead of duracell
@@Exofrickit's actually the opposite, Japan had 2 more batteries, not less. But yah, a lot of Milk tabs for whatever reason. Even the bottle opener is specifically a milk bottle opener in Japan.
The curious thing about this, is how the new treasures look more like modern products rather than designs similar to products around the time Pikmin 2 originally released. Like that apple juice can, that looks like a present day product. This is actually really neat because if PNF-404 is post-apocalypse Earth, then of COURSE the items left behind that survived would be as modern as time got on Pikmin-Earth.
I was kind of wondering if this version of Earth actually faced some apocalyptic in the early to mid 2000s. In the Pikmin 4 trailer, we see a GBA SP. In Pikmin 3, the only phones we see are flip phones even though the game came out in 2013. I haven't watched all the Pikmin 4 trailers (I'd rather be surprised) but it seems that we haven't seen anything truly modern in any of these games yet.
I get why they couldn’t do the original treasures because of licensing, but I feel like it kind of defeats the point of what made the treasures special. It was to show that you’re really exploring earth with real life objects.
Never underestimate just how effective this kind of product placement can be. I was 11 when WipEout 2097 was released in 1996; it was one of my all-time favourite games and featured heavy product placement by Red Bull. Even to this day, nearly 30 years later, I am still brand loyal to RB because it featured so prominently in a cherished childhood game. I wonder how many people in their mid-to-late 20’s now feel similarly about the brands featured in this game?
It's interesting that all of the original branded treasures depict slightly vintage looking logos, and it's nice they continued that feel with many of the redesigns!
Had to check with the first battery as I thought they looked familiar, the red, gold, and black design seem to slightly resemble Maxell alkaline batteries! (I believe a primarily Japanese brand battery company)
@@CartoonPhreak aaaaaah makes sense. I noticed even some of the other batteries are blue, red and silver which are also a reference to them as well. Funny that it’s still not a product placement even though they went from (I’m assuming mostly) American brands to somewhat resembling Japanese brands or just generic stuff.
@@Heath_Rubbadubdub Yes but various films and TV shows also has product placement Enchanted (2007) - Sony and Coca-Cola The Flintstones (1994) - McDonald’s The Really Loud House - Apple (used briefly) The Magic School Bus (1994) - Microsoft Home (season 1) funding credit (PBS and Fox Kids versions) Holly Hobbie & Friends: Christmas Wishes (2007) - Holly Hobbie & Friends (Mattel) toy commercial (1st printing) (DVD only release)
I adore that the last treasure you find before the final boss (hypnotic platter) was changed to say 19th anniversary, since pikmin 2 is 19 years old. Also flavor gate from gherkin gate was a nice name change
idk if it's that the license "expired", i think it'd be more like "if we want to rerelease this game again, we have to work out another licensing agreement" and they either couldn't work it out or didn't care to
Very minor thing I noticed, in a few specific cases they actuallt changed what the object was, like with the Healing Cask which used to be Coldsore cream, and got turned into generic Aloe Very handcream in the Switch release. This doesn’t really mean anything I just find it kinda interesting
On one hand the fact that there’s a Nintendo game where you collect product placement is amazing. On the other these are less immersion breaking and now Nintendo can release Pikmin 2 without getting the rights to everything again.
2:53 Gherkin Gate is the only one they changed the name of, to Flavor Gate. But why? They could have just made a generic pickle lid instead of switching it to an orange jam lid.
I'd guess it's because the word "gherkin" isn't used for a pickled cucumber in parts of the English speaking world, so they wanted to make it more universal.
@@xsmallmusic2174 I never knew what gherkin was when watching the great British bake off but never bothered to Google it for whatever reason. Now I know lol
@@xsmallmusic2174 Yep, it's a pickle! I know Australians and English speaking countries in Europe use "gherkin", and I think it was sometimes used by older generations in North America.
Copyright and trademark laws are a bitch, many games that have similar licensing problems related to music, characters and celebrities, can never get a rerelease unless the game is heavily changed, all that companies had to do is demand a contract that applies to all future rereleases decades later and not just for a few years after the game is released, where even the original version can get pulled from stores. And here, Nintendo did not have to pay anything, it's the companies that paid Nintendo, why they didn't allow the license for future rereleases?
Also, changing games years after they were released is not that easy, especially when the source code was lost. The source code of Kingdom Hearts 1 for PS2 was lost, other versions are pretty much a remake.
It's cool to see how treasure products change and the evolution with Pikmin 2 from the GameCube to being ported to the Switch. I'm actually okay with this since I have the Wii version of the game. Glad the game still has the treasure names, even if it's silly at times lol
I miss the original products. They helped give the game an aspect of relatabiltiy, as a lot of us interected with the products depicted in our real lives. The artistic believability is lost a bit when you remove that.
10:53 found a mistake: the 9v battery labels the +/- with the same texture on both sides of the battery, resulting in the poles being mislabeled on one side of the battery
I love-hate this. They changed something about the old games I really enjoyed, but I also think it's nice that others can appreciate the redesigns and how authentic they feel.
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I like how the re-designed treasures looks like something you could find at Dollar Tree or any 99 cents store.
Or Canada.
My reaction to the battery was that it looks like a store brand. These are all nice replacements, even though the fun product placement is gone.
I worked at Dollar General for two years and can confirm.
I was thinking the same thing! Like "I'd laugh if the replacements were off brand equivalents"
Yeah lol
Whoever worked on the non-copyright textures in the rerelease honestly did a great job, they're really solid designs
i love the entire battery series
polyhex?? love ur games lol
I think they were already removed in the PAL version of pikmin 2
@@sam4gaming135 nope, they were replaced with entirely different treasures with different names and descriptions
I'll get used to these
Pikmin 2 on Switch is quite possibly the first time I've seen people be sad that advertisements got removed.
I think the first time I saw it was Super Monkey Ball: Banana Mania when they removed the Dole logo from any part of any levels that had it(including the bananas)
@@WohaoG I totally forgot about the dole sponsorship yeah that was a bummer
I think it helped that Nintendo went out of their way to get the license just to add nods to the players. Vs. movies and other games where the products' companies paid to have their product prominent everywhere or shoehorned unnatural into them.
gamers be like yes we hate advertisers, we're communists and antiwork but then complain about removal of ads because it loses an "important part" of the original game 😂😂
@maximemht1015 The advertisements in Pikmin 2 DO serve a purpose, they drive home the fact that we are on Earth, where humans once inhabited it. With that knowledge in mind, it would make sense if there were real human brands here, because they fit with the setting the game is set in.
Props to the designer of the new labels for making a believable early 2000's design for them
I wouldn't be surprised. Studying graphic design history brings an understanding of stylistic evolution in all walks of life, be it at-the-time modernism or projected futurism that never happened. It's a helpful tool to use when creating content set in a time period and keeping to said era's authenticity.
@@Echo81Rumple83nerd
They look exactly like the labels you'd find on store brand products sold in regional supermarkets.
Nah, should’ve just kept the old ones and paid the companies
@@DigimonVids I think it's more likely that the other companies paid Nintendo as that's normally how product placement works
Although the original product placement was fun, I'm just glad to see they put serious effort into a lot of the new designs. It isn't just entirely word art and flat colours. Like I love the little drawn peanut guys on the updated peanut butter jar treasure.
That one's my favorite, honestly. They just look so happy
omg rite that one actually improved imo
I love that it has a fake brand name as well. Some of the others feel a bit lacking without a brand
I would eat Ribbon’s peanut butter if it was real
@@Beelze_BubblesI would actually run to the Supermarket to get me a jar of Ribbon's Peanutbutter right now, if it existed!
One of the few games to ever do product placement right
What was wrong with Crazy Taxi?
@@sloppynyuszi "one of the few" means there can be more than one
It wouldn't surprise me if the developers or artists came up with the initiative first
This game does it so well because it does not feel like an advertisement. The game shows you what the product is but never really elaborates on it, instead only giving you what the characters name it and what the sales pitch for it on an alien planet could be, and what a tiny little alien man would think of it and it’s origin. Still kinda upset they used a maple leaf this time around for that one treasure. : (
Definitely a fan of the product placement in Yakuza as well.
Nintendo couldn't gain the licensing to these brands as the license expired. They had a VERY difficult time doing so the first time. I understand why Nintendo didn't do this a second time. It would've been a nightmare all over again
it's unfortunate though, I'd have loved for the game to have remained completely intact
That seems kind of weird to me because it's basically free advertisement, I would have called it a win-win
I generally wonder what happened the first time since pikmkn 2 wii was heavily delayed in the US..tho the wiiu port was fine I assume.
Only weird advertising that got cut was the nintendo website link in one of the emails
It's like free advertisement...
@@eatcarpetexcept not free
I'm impressed, these actually look like real generic brands. And they didn't have to totally change the object like when they changed it from Japanese to English.
Yeah. It strikes the perfect balance of things we would still recognize while avoiding the legal nightmare of branding. It’s the exact type of thing you’d find in a dollar store.
The new Hypnotic Platter design being a special design for that brand's 19th anniversary is actually a really clever nod to Pikmin 2 being 19 years old!
just started browsing the comments to see if anyone else had picked up on that!
It is unfortunate that all the designs of the actual treasures have been changed, but all the new designs are so elaborate that they make you think you might have seen them before.
Yeah but I do remember being a kid thinking wow it's like everyday stuff is in this game and it just made it that much more magical as a kid
@@johnathan2023yeah, I felt the same way. It really makes you feel like you’re on earth.
@@johnathan2023Not really magical when a lot of these brands weren't a thing in your country, so it's almost like nothing changed.
I mean, that IS the Earth
@@The_JzoliI get what you mean, looking at this the only brands I recognize are Duracell, 7up and Wilson, so I assume most of the other brands must be only US/Canada brands or some such
I like that, despite the texture changes, they kept the reference to Duracell Batteries in one of the names.
Neat little nod of friendship considering that company contributed the first treasure players found in the original version.
Alternate universe where its called the "Supercharged Power Cell"
Gonna miss the og textures. They really made the world feel real as though I could expect a tiny man with an army of plants walking through my backyard
What’s interesting is that a lot of these are more fruit-themed now, which aligns better with Pikmin 3’s pursuit of fruits
But Hocotatians prefer vegetables and occasionally meats, not fruit, so the choice of fruit is a bit odd, vegetable themed stuff would’ve made more sense imo
@@Messiah_Abelit took this comment for me to remember that the fruit lovers are the crew from Pikmin 3, who are from the planet Koppai.
@pkmn.sm20 in pikmin 2 your not collecting any of this stuff to eat. It is okay to be fruit related since your intention is just to sell it
@@katonnoractually, a couple times in the treasure log, Olimar and Louie are implied to try little bites of food they encounter.
@@batofdestinyThey may have happened on food, but they werent looking for food for food sake, only money sake.
Ironically enough if i hadn't seen this video and had purchased the pikmin 2 switch version i think 90% of these changes would have gone over my head, though Duracell would have been a huge red flag cause for some reason the big D battery in the first level is engrained into my memory of the game, and the bottle caps would have sparked some curiosity because i would have vague memories of product placement but no solid examples aside from the batteries. Still very interesting and all the new designs look professionally done and amazing feels like they hired a skilled graphic designer specifically for this xD
I distinctly remembered the pickle jar lid and it's absence is what made me stop and realize that they replaced everything with generics instead of the original product placement.
Big D tends to be very very memorable I agree🤔
Since I own the original, I’m secretly happy they did this.
Cuz now it’s like I get two different versions of Pikmin 2.
surprised i'm not the only one who had this thought
well actually☝️🤓
There are many treasures that change depending on the region on the GC & Wii version. The most famous being the MJ leaf, that has changed in the EU version for a maple leaf.
@@calvinalejandrox7143like it wasn't hidden that it was weed
You're not very good at keeping secrets
@@calvinalejandrox7143it wasnt meant to be weed it was actually a japanese thing or something that was just mistaken for weed by western audiences
Gherkin Gate to Flavor Gate is an undeniable downgrade.
Should have kept it as an off-brand pickle jar lid
They seriously couldn't come up with an adequate pickle brand design?! All it is is just one more page on the wiki that doesn't need to exist!
Welcome to flavor gate. Located in front of flavor town!
@@Nightlingboltit doesn't have to have it's own separate page, it can just redirect to the ghirkin gate page and have that page mention both.
Gherkin is a word for pickle, so it wouldn’t make sense on a lid that wasn’t for a pickle jar. But yeah they could have made a generic pickle jar lid.
The designers for the new treasures did a great job, they still look like actual products
I like how the hypnotic platter has a 19th anniversary advert on it, considering this year is the 19th anniversary of Pikmin 2
Honestly, all of the products they created as replacements are really well designed. They look like real products.
Ribbon's Peanut Butter even has little peanut mascots.
Despite no longer being DIRECT references, a few of these still contain references. For example, the tennis ball cap "Activity Arouser" is labled "Tarai" which is an anagram of "Atari", who's more prominent early games was Tennis.
Bit of a stretch imo
youre reaching big time
It's insane to me not only how real the replacement brands look, but also how perfectly they capture the spirit of 2000's brand design. That takes an insane level of self awareness to properly pull off they really nailed it
ive never played or really have been interested in pikmin, but the fact they had official licensed products to be found was like if you were actually exploring the real world and finding stuff around on the ground and i absolutely love that, such a freaking shame it's been changed, but i understand why
Alot of these new designs feel like I've seen them at a Dollar Tree store in the early 2000's, that's how of the time they feel. Especially the Batteries.
I swear ive legitimately seen half of these generic brands, theyre so well designed
Its the baking soda one that gets me the most
the apple juice (Fruit Guard) feels the most like ive seen it before.
I saw the peanut butter while playing the game and thought to myself "Wait, did they not remove ALL of the product placement?" The little peanut characters make it look so much like an actual brand
Everyone keeps saying that Nintendo lost the licensing agreement for these brands, but I don't think that is the main reason for the de-branding of Pikmin 2. This was never an issue for the Wii or Wii U re-releases. I think it's more likely that the generic treasures had to be made for the new Korean and Chinese localizations, then the decision was made to use them for all regions since that is easier / cheaper than re-acquiring the licenses.
1. it never released on the Wii u as a Wii U edition
2. for the Wii version it came out only a few years later which means they still had the licence
3. its because if they released it with the brand names they would get sued a lot a lot.
Edit: I changed number 1 because people keep saying it was released on the Wii U even though they are talking about the emulator that was released
@@BertfolomewThe New Play Control versions of both games were re-released on the Wii U as virtual console games💀
@@Bertfolomew I literally bought it on the Wii U bro.
@Fllook12 The WiiU wasn't like the Switch, you could actually buy previous gen games on it, including GBA and DS (GB/GBC where 3ds only and the GameCube library was never available for download). This included the Wii versions of Pikmin 1 and 2.
@@berry.1uvr Virtual console games are just emulated versions of older games, not remasters. Since they were just running old games they likely did not have to renew licenses for them.
the Hypnotic Platter having 19th Anniversary is a nice nod to how Pikmin 2's 19th anniversary is this year
Now I'm curious to see if the branding treasures exclusive to European and Japanese versions changed too, not just the American ones.
AFAIK, all versions removed the specific brands
@@skc4188 EU version is like to USA
Drought ender being a coconut water brand with a palm and water makes much more sense than Dr. Pepper since olimar's species might not know how to read English/human language, but could identify the picture.
Same goes for flavor gate and the aloe balm. Having pictures explains how their species would get so close to the original meaning of the object
They own spaceships that have what I assume are quite smart AIs in them, theres a chance they can also create a universal translator.
The new battery's look just like the ones my dad would bring kid me from his work It's really impressive how they hit that early 2000s feel
Thank God the replacements actually look good.
Same weekend keep the product placement but I totally understand why and this helps the game have more longevity if for whatever reason it re-releases again
All Treasures!
0:00 Courage Reactor
0:46 Quenching Emblem
1:16 Alien Billboard
1:46 Drought Ender
2:13 Survival Ointment
2:47 Gherkin Gate/Flavor Gate
3:16 Creative Inspiration
3:45 Patience Tester
4:14 Healing Cask
4:43 Salivatrix
5:13 Thirst Activator
5:42 Massive Lid
6:11 Happiness Emblem
6:41 Durable Energy Cell
7:10 Endless Repository
7:39 Pondering Emblem
8:08 Abstract Masterpiece
8:37 Optical Illustration
9:06 Activity Aroused
9:35 Proton AA
10:04 Drone Supplies
10:33 Fuel Reservoir
11:02 Fruit Guard
11:32 Nutrient Silo (Skippy Peanut Butter my beloved)
12:01 Yellow Taste Tyrant
12:31 Stringent Container
13:00 Hypnotic Platter
I also personally identify with "Skippy Peanut Butter my beloved" as I munch on my PB&J made with Skippy".
We have Kraft Peanut Butter over here.
What really tickled me was that they even added nutrient facts to items which would naturally have them irl. They really didn't have to do it, but they made all of these feel like actual items you'd find in the real world, with the tiny little details on real packages and everything. This is the best possible outcome from a Pikmin 2 re-release imo.
Now lets talk about that horrid squished font lmao
Honestly, the new brand designs are pretty fly!
The redone items look very nice for what they did!
I Love there redesign products. Now everyone are complaining about redesign treusure.
Honestly sad to see all the brands disappear. The Pikmin world going full-on Great Value mode...
maybe it's because I'm not an absolutely soulless man-in-suit who runs a billion dollar company and yet can't fathom losing a single dollar, but I can't fathom why you WOULDN'T want your product in a NINTENDO GAME
Max: And we still have plenty of generic orange soda mix left!
Sam: You always know how NOT to trample on a registered trademark, little buddy!
The fact they designed little peanut themed mascots for the made up peanut butter brand is adorable.
I love how detailed the replacement textures are. That and they're keeping with the era the game released. Pretty rad.
These are literally the embodiment of that ‘mom can we get X?’ ‘We have X at home’ meme. It’s a shame to see the actual logos go since that added to the game’s charm, but its hardly game breaking and I fully understand why. At least now they have a version they can port over way easier to future consoles if needed.
My only nitpick with the new designs is some of them have fictional brands while most don’t, leaving a lot of them looking more generic than others.
I got a feeling that the 19th anniversary orange juice bottle cap could also be talking about how its been 19 years since PIKMIN 2 was first brought out on gamecube. April 29th 2004, 19 years and about 3 months since it was first released
Some of these look so legit it makes me wonder if Nintendo hired professional product graphic designers
They did a really good job with the new textures they look right at home with really good attention to detail like nutrition facts
I was initially pretty upset about the product placement being removed, but i'd say at least half of the new ones are either just as good or in some cases better than previous. Also, it's only about 10% of the total treasure hoard, so it won't be too noticeable overall.
My only complaint is that the change from carmex -> aloe vera cream changes the color of the item from yellow to green. In my opinion, the yellow carmex texture served a gameplay purpose, clueing in the player that this item can only be obtained with yellow pikmin, and is the first item in the game the player encounters that is locked behind yellows. This creates a subtle mental association with the color yellow and high places very early on in the game. I wish they had kept the yellow coloration when they changed the branding, but I suppose green is better than any of the other existing pikmin colors.
You can actually get that treasure with Purples too if you throw them with momentum into the right part of the wall there. I don't remember but you might even be able to do that with other colors too? But purple is easiest since you only need to do it once
@@pikmin937 It doesn't matter if you can jank the treasure down with other pikmin, the purpose is to associate the color yellow with treasures located in very high spots. This is about teaching the player game mechanics through environmental cues.
Most people playing 2 will likely have played 1 (and maybe even 3) and know about the yellow’s high throwing ability already, on top of the game mentioning it anyway. Not a huge loss
@IceBlueLugia yeah, plus you'd have to go through that area with a squad of yellows anyway in order to get to the electric gate barring the Blue Pikmin, so there's little chance of missing the item without a squad of yellows on hand.
we lost every major, food, drink, battery, and non consumable object in pikmin 2.
RIP funny brand references.
(on a side note. Alot of the new designs reminded me of store brand stuff, so solid job on their part)
Back when Nintendo and radio shack had a partnership and you could basically only find game cube stuff there Best Buy and few other game stores
Wow! I was aware of the Duracell battery and the 7up bottle cap as Pikmin treasures, but I didn’t realize how many other real-world products were featured in the series. Did they use the same brands across all different regions? I can't imagine Vlasic having the same level of recognition in Europe or Japan as in the United States.
I know the european version changed a lot of the treasures, not sure about the japanese one, but I'd highly reccomend checking the wiki to see all the differences across all the versions
Oh, they changed a LOT of treasures for the Japanese release. Some ones I know off the top of my head are that the Ancient Ad Series is completely gone, as is the Survival Series; the latter is exclusive to the American version. Interestingly, the Alien Billboard is still in the Japanese version, but it’s in the Odd Logo Series instead. There’s now an entire series dedicated to the little paper covers of Japanese milk cartons, called the Mystical Disc Series, which has I think 12 entries, each one a different brand. I also know that the Duracell batteries are completely gone, instead replaced by a different company in Japan. There’s actually six batteries in the Japanese version, not four. Those are just the changes I know off the top of my head. There’s WAY more where that came from.
I was initially a bit sad they had to change these, but whoever did the new textures in the Switch version did a great job making them believable, and not sticking out like a sore thumb
That Duracell was only good till March 2010 as seen on the label.
Old batteries are dangerous to keep around, so they swapped it with a newer one.
Nintendo looking out for us.
The removal of the Dr. Pepper cap, and the Ragu lid (while, for good reason) hurts my childhood soul...
Playing Pikmin 2 while I was little, Ragu-made Pasta in one hand and Dr. Pepper in the other. Finding those treasures, made for a truly unforgettable experience. R.I.P 2004 Nintendo brand deals.
I understand why the changes were made. This isn't like keeping the Kawasaki brand in Wave Race 64, that's just one company. To get all the contracts and approvals from all the multiple companies could take forever.
I want to think the Duracell company are happy that there products are in Pikmin 2. Or at least they we're until the re-upload of 1 and 2
I miss product placement in my video games.
Nothing can beat seeing those familiar products in this charming game but I understand the change and it gives the same vibe.
I played Pikmin 2 for the first time in 2017 shortly after my dad's passing to get my mind off of things, but when I saw the Kiwi shoe polish and the Chap Stick (Items that my dad used back in his day), I chose to put the game down. It got a little uncomfortable that the game was reminding me of my late dad.😅
Just a weird coincidence I guess.
I wish they would’ve went for making up brand names instead of just mostly generic products descriptors. I adore stupid brand names and this was the perfect opportunity
I was just thinking that
Man, the treasures do lose a lot of their charm but the redesigns are really solid for what they are.
I like how you're able to tell when a treasure got retextured with how much sharper it looks compared to the unchanged treasures.
as sad as it was to see the changed treasures, it had to be done to get this game on switch.
It's not that devastating.
Plus it didn't *HAVE* to be done like this, Nintendo most likely was just being greedy and didn't want to pay royalties, despite being a billion times richer than they where back then.
@@imselfaware419nintendo has a sociopathic amount of money, I don’t see why they wouldn’t do the brand involvement again
@@imselfaware419 no it was just that the licenses expired
@@stanley8006One might say greed but they did just give literally everyone a 10% raise so idk lol. I think it was to save money but at least they're using that money for something other than dividends.
@@imselfaware419 Paying royalties? In the original release, it's the companies that paid Nintendo, they could easily allow everything again for free or even better, the original contracts should be valid for future rereleases.
To be fair, as an European myself, most of these brands are unknown to me, safe for Duracell, Haribo and a selected few.
Yep, I agree. Same for us here in Singapore where we received North American NTSC Nintendo stuff as part of what would merge to become the 'Middle East and Southeast Asia' system region during the Wii U and 3DS era.
Id 100% buy the rebranded products at the store
I wonder what brands the Japanese GameCube version had?
Most of the jars lids and bottle caps are exclusive to the us release along with the survival series of treasures Japan's exclusive treasures are mostly tabs from the tops of milk bottles a popsicle stick and some kitchenware there's also less batteries and the few that are in the game use national hitop brand batteries instead of duracell
@@Exofrickit's actually the opposite, Japan had 2 more batteries, not less. But yah, a lot of Milk tabs for whatever reason. Even the bottle opener is specifically a milk bottle opener in Japan.
The curious thing about this, is how the new treasures look more like modern products rather than designs similar to products around the time Pikmin 2 originally released. Like that apple juice can, that looks like a present day product.
This is actually really neat because if PNF-404 is post-apocalypse Earth, then of COURSE the items left behind that survived would be as modern as time got on Pikmin-Earth.
I was kind of wondering if this version of Earth actually faced some apocalyptic in the early to mid 2000s. In the Pikmin 4 trailer, we see a GBA SP. In Pikmin 3, the only phones we see are flip phones even though the game came out in 2013. I haven't watched all the Pikmin 4 trailers (I'd rather be surprised) but it seems that we haven't seen anything truly modern in any of these games yet.
I get why they couldn’t do the original treasures because of licensing, but I feel like it kind of defeats the point of what made the treasures special. It was to show that you’re really exploring earth with real life objects.
Blessed knowing I own the original
Blessed knowing I could just emulate both
Me too
@@DK19998oh look a poor person!
Never underestimate just how effective this kind of product placement can be.
I was 11 when WipEout 2097 was released in 1996; it was one of my all-time favourite games and featured heavy product placement by Red Bull. Even to this day, nearly 30 years later, I am still brand loyal to RB because it featured so prominently in a cherished childhood game.
I wonder how many people in their mid-to-late 20’s now feel similarly about the brands featured in this game?
It’s crazy how Nintendo was able to get ALL of those old licenses in the first place
It's interesting that all of the original branded treasures depict slightly vintage looking logos, and it's nice they continued that feel with many of the redesigns!
I never thought I’d be sad to not see product placement 😔
Dr. Pepper’s name “Drought Ender” actually sounds accurate, specially when drinking it in a hot summer day. 😂
Had to check with the first battery as I thought they looked familiar, the red, gold, and black design seem to slightly resemble Maxell alkaline batteries! (I believe a primarily Japanese brand battery company)
Exactly. Maxell also manufactures recordable media (VHS, DVD-R, CD-R, etc) which is referred to as the Japanese brand recordable media company.
@@CartoonPhreak aaaaaah makes sense. I noticed even some of the other batteries are blue, red and silver which are also a reference to them as well. Funny that it’s still not a product placement even though they went from (I’m assuming mostly) American brands to somewhat resembling Japanese brands or just generic stuff.
@@Heath_Rubbadubdub
Yes but various films and TV shows also has product placement
Enchanted (2007) - Sony and Coca-Cola
The Flintstones (1994) - McDonald’s
The Really Loud House - Apple (used briefly)
The Magic School Bus (1994) - Microsoft Home (season 1) funding credit (PBS and Fox Kids versions)
Holly Hobbie & Friends: Christmas Wishes (2007) - Holly Hobbie & Friends (Mattel) toy commercial (1st printing) (DVD only release)
@@CartoonPhreak yes, but I just meant for pikmin.
@@Heath_Rubbadubdub I know that.
I adore that the last treasure you find before the final boss (hypnotic platter) was changed to say 19th anniversary, since pikmin 2 is 19 years old.
Also flavor gate from gherkin gate was a nice name change
idk if it's that the license "expired", i think it'd be more like "if we want to rerelease this game again, we have to work out another licensing agreement" and they either couldn't work it out or didn't care to
I miss the OG designs, they really helped to sell the idea of this being earth
Very minor thing I noticed, in a few specific cases they actuallt changed what the object was, like with the Healing Cask which used to be Coldsore cream, and got turned into generic Aloe Very handcream in the Switch release. This doesn’t really mean anything I just find it kinda interesting
On one hand the fact that there’s a Nintendo game where you collect product placement is amazing. On the other these are less immersion breaking and now Nintendo can release Pikmin 2 without getting the rights to everything again.
2:53 Gherkin Gate is the only one they changed the name of, to Flavor Gate. But why? They could have just made a generic pickle lid instead of switching it to an orange jam lid.
I'd guess it's because the word "gherkin" isn't used for a pickled cucumber in parts of the English speaking world, so they wanted to make it more universal.
@@arkadehorrorTHATS WHAT THAT WORD MEANS? I was so confused lmao
@@xsmallmusic2174 I never knew what gherkin was when watching the great British bake off but never bothered to Google it for whatever reason. Now I know lol
@@xsmallmusic2174 Yep, it's a pickle! I know Australians and English speaking countries in Europe use "gherkin", and I think it was sometimes used by older generations in North America.
I find it really funny how Duracells still look exactly the same as they did in the 2000s.
Nintendo went from name brands to dollar store generic brands. 😂
Pikmin 2: cost of living crisis edition 😅
@@Snookeyboywell it is about paying off debt after all lol
I guess that people aren't the only ones living on a shoestring budget, so are companies.... 🫤
Mom: “No, we have Drought Ender at home.”
Drought Ender at home:
I honestly think a lot of the new designs are better
Pikmin, Brought to you by Duracell, 7-up, Dr. Pepper, ChapStick, Vlasic, RC Cola, Carmex, Dannon/Danone, TreeTop, and more
Alas, there was little that can be done, the licenses were expired.
I love that they kept "Durable Energy Cell" as a treasure name.
So Duracell batteries have different names in the GameCube version of the Pikmin universe. XD
P.S. Great job for the designer of the new textures. 👍🏻
This guy straight up replaced Wilson with an infinitely more recognizable brand that doesn't even exist, how do I get this kind of talent?
Damn, how am I Conan collect my jar of skippy’s creamy peanut butter now?
I remember being surprised they actually used real brands when I first played the Gamecube edition. So I’m not surprised they changed them.
Copyright and trademark laws are a bitch, many games that have similar licensing problems related to music, characters and celebrities, can never get a rerelease unless the game is heavily changed, all that companies had to do is demand a contract that applies to all future rereleases decades later and not just for a few years after the game is released, where even the original version can get pulled from stores.
And here, Nintendo did not have to pay anything, it's the companies that paid Nintendo, why they didn't allow the license for future rereleases?
Also, changing games years after they were released is not that easy, especially when the source code was lost.
The source code of Kingdom Hearts 1 for PS2 was lost, other versions are pretty much a remake.
That canned apple juice actually got me because it looked legit
It's cool to see how treasure products change and the evolution with Pikmin 2 from the GameCube to being ported to the Switch. I'm actually okay with this since I have the Wii version of the game. Glad the game still has the treasure names, even if it's silly at times lol
Ah sweet brand licenses, will you never not be inconvenient?
I miss the original products. They helped give the game an aspect of relatabiltiy, as a lot of us interected with the products depicted in our real lives. The artistic believability is lost a bit when you remove that.
10:53 found a mistake: the 9v battery labels the +/- with the same texture on both sides of the battery, resulting in the poles being mislabeled on one side of the battery
That's not a mistake. Those batteries have both poles on the same end.
I actually don’t think that’s a mistake
It's kinda cursed seeing product placements in a Nintendo game.
I’m curious how much Nintendo made with all these licensing deals
I love-hate this.
They changed something about the old games I really enjoyed, but I also think it's nice that others can appreciate the redesigns and how authentic they feel.
4:17 Yeah, no... yeah... no... yeah...
You can tell they work because when i saw a brand I didn’t know I had to look at the top right to figure out if it was original or not.
Didn’t the Japanese version also have product placement of their own? What do those differences look like in the retexturing?
It seems identical to the English version now. You can't find any Japanese words in the game anymore other than UI and subtitle.