TOP 10 Cards MASTER DUEL Should TAKE OFF THE BANLIST!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2024
- Konami unban them pls
credit to @fafnirymd and @DuellinksAce for some small snippets
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Farfa's gonna watch this video and get a heart attack
I think the real issue with master duel is the lack of variety in game modes. If this last week proved anything, it’s that the master duel community is wide and varied in what we want.
Give us a casual and ranked mode for the following formats:
-GOAT
-Edison
-TCG
-OCG
Then the MD official format can be this Wild West of sorts where things like elf, and yes- maxx c, are still around. And the people who prefer those other formats get what they want to.
This would end up making Konami a ton of money long term as people would be buying up packs for the format they like the most and they would likely start trying the others as well.
& it would bring in new & old players, it's not like it's the hardest thing to do
Add tag dueling
Maxx c should still be banned. In that hipotetical univesre, you should just play the ocg mode.
I 100% agree with you on the pendulum cards. The main issue with pendulum is you can't play handtraps, so giving back astrograph would just improve the ceiling of pendulum while doing nothing to stop of the issue of auto-losing if you go second. With that in mind, bring back electrumite to 3.
Electrumite to 3 might be a bit too strong for future pend decks
You could first semi-limit Electrumite and then if it's fine, then unlimit it
Pendulum decks can already reuse Electrumite multiple times. At least make them work for it.
@@mrpkmnfrkpendulum will never be too strong lmao
I’ll keep 1 and 1 tbh, at least for MD.
Fenrir back at 2 are a Hell no
Its one of the Best card, yet when you summon him, it immidiately drops a heavy pressure on the opp with no cost.
Plus they have the field spell at 1, potentially having 3 fenrir when in semi limited as an Engine.
Then they should compensate the kashtira archetype. Fenrir being at 1 because everyone likes to splash it isn’t fair. Put the field spell to 2 or 3.
@@drewsky1121maybe Konami should've thought about that before they designed the cards XD. Not hating or nothing, but they had to have known this would be an issue.
Fenrir could Come back at 3 and should come back at 3. Jsut because you lost to the card doesnt mean its broken. Its a card thats healthy for the game and it will stay healthy for the game
Ohh and i forgot to add, fenrir is even more healthy in a Format where MAXX C IS ALLOWED.
@@yesohxdlol640 Hard disagree, both maxx c and fen are bad for the game, fen coming back wpuld just limit deck diversity even more because now players would feel forced to put a kash engine in their deck just cause its so good like maxx c, and would lead to players being forced to put more cards in thier deck to deal with it like ash and called by for maxx c, limiting even more spots in their deck
I hate how they always forget that they banned or restricted some cards..
Like harp horror wasn't unbanned until two montgs ago, or the dragon rulers, or electrumite, master piece.....
Also Infernity Launcher. Even with triple Launcher the deck will do nothing compared to SHS.
@@dudono1744Do it please
Bro what? The TCG and OCG still has them hit. If anything, MD’s banlist is better at un-hitting cards since they actually unbanned these cards.
@@ultimate_capper3643 that's what I said
@@yuseifudo6075 Who is “they” in your comment?
Fenrir is a card that I understand being at 1. Yes, it can lift up a lot of decks, but it being ubiquitously useful also hurt many rogue decks that depend on a normal summon effect starters.
It also baited interaction by being able to search itself, which is the biggest issue with the card imo.
I love Fenrir personally, but I totally get the limit.
I agree with every point except for two, which I half agree on:
1. Fenrir - I dislike that Fenrir searches itself and a ton of games I played would devolve into “Fenrir control,” rather than the actual decks that were being played. I did however like that meta in the sense that old staples like Book of Moon became more important because of Kashtira and Purrely being the best decks at the time. I think it’s just slightly too soon for Fenrir to go back to 3, but once there are better/more consistent options to out it, I say release him.
2. Runick - I agree with the quick play spells getting unlimited, the only frustration is that you can lose entirely off of having a key engine piece getting banished. The part I heavily disagree with is Fountain needs to stay at 1. The fact that Runick players could draw up to 3 cards multiple times per turn was just excessive.
Hard disagree one fountain. Most Runick players that aren’t stun use the deck to draw into the rest of their playable cards. Wasting resources to double search with fountain requires your hand to be incredibly lucky and it doesn’t happen anywhere near as often as people try to make it sound.
That play also literally dies to a single ash, which you are pretty likely to resolve.
Fountain at 1 is just a very bad hit in general. A single banish (which Runick has almost no power to stop btw) means that you just auto-lose the game.
If the deck was some all powerful winning machine, that might be fair, but it’s literally just not.
For me fenrir at 1 or ban is the best option a card with no real restrictions that can search it self is a little to toxic, mermaid on the other hand i find eblee is the problematic card really, and for dragoon... I don't like it but i tink verte and the deck fusion cards are clearly the problem, the low resources free boss monsters are a awful idea that Konami keep doing.
Baronne anyone? That card's been the bane of my existence since I started playing.
@@mikefrost5575 i agree, also i tink Konami need to ban generic negates, and as a pend player i also tink that make pend decks evolve and recibe playable boss monsters.
@mikefrost5575 Baronne is such a baffling card. I think the intention was that you were supposed to use the negate and then have to re-summon it to refresh it, but due to how it's worded, it's a free negate every turn instead. So it's just everywhere, because there's no real downside to having it.
@MysticKenji2 exactly. Every synchro deck needs to run Baronne, or you're just missing out on a Hella good boss monster that can singlehandedly win you the game on its own. It boggles the mind that Konami thought that a 3k beater with an Omni-Negate AND Pop-Effect, while also being completely generic, was a-okay.
@@mikefrost5575 and is a recycler for lvl's lower than 10... Yeah is a busted card.
You lost me at Fenrir.... especially while complaining about Diabell / Snake-Eyes.
Like Dia, the card is legitimately a staple in fucking everything UNLESS it's a 1 of do to it being able to self-search and remove a garnet from the deck, much like how Dia and Wanted Poster can create 3 times draw cycle.
Mermaid is extremely dangerous due to U linking your opponent with iblee on board is mostly an FTK for some decks..
Ib has been unbanned in paper formats for a few months now. I think that's enough focus testing. We can handle her in MD.
Runick naturia is what got me thru tearlaments meta, man.
Naturia's constant milling of cards makes the recycling of spells from Runick Fountain yield much more valuable card due to deck thinning.
agree on dragoon, disagree on kash, kash literally does so much for free, and before people complain about dragoon, you have to run 2 vanilla cards to get the good effect, unlike kash that can special summon a billion level 7 monsters with removal for free
no one is talking about kash they can hit that deck some other way fenrir is just a good staple that helps many rogue decks have a chance going second
Fenrir at 2-3 would probably be pretty healthy in a meta where going 2nd is so bad. It'd have to be balanced by limiting Unicorn though
@@ccjl9160 limiting Unicorn is only fair if we in turn get Wraitsoth at 3, Unicorn semi-limit = 2 Wraitsoth, Unicorn full limit = unlimited Wraitsoth.
I'm not sure I agree with some of these. In no particular order:
1) Yes Spright will play toad again, but not just spright, decks that can make bahamut shark like tear will also play it and any future decks that can make either.
2) mermaid you said you are not sure about but you would be right it is possibly the worst idea. Even a deck as bad as pure scareclaw can make trihart searching their trap that prevents link monster effects summoning while also iblee locking. Any deck that does not link summon will auto lose but even among those who do there are ways to prevent that from happening either by doing a u link like the good old days or searching a card that restricts link in some way like the scareclaw trap graveyard effect. The scareclaw trap being searchable by the relatively generic visas armitrage sychro monster.
3) the zoodiac ratpier unban. The reason why the deck only ends on drident now is because they have 1 ratpier. 2+ ratpier is where zoodiac becomes a combo deck again ala 2017 style. Not sure how good it would be but tbh I would surprised if it wasn't at least tiered as they have their extender spell and the rank 3 enablers like terrotop for mx saber invoker again. Zoodiac is basically the original small main deck engine does insane combo and the rest being staples.
I think you are right about the rest though. They either won't have a meta impact or are funny regardless. The runick hits to me are particularly the most annoying ones considering that as you said, konami should just ban all the stupid floodgates already.
The current Iblee lock is bad because either you need hard draw it or the decks that can play the Iblee lock have some kind of restriction that makes their play "weak". The mermaid will give more consistent Iblee lock without any restriction.
someone help me out
Raigeki is to Harpie's Feather Duster, as
Dark hole is to Heavy Storm, as
Mystical Space Typhoon is to...?
Closest would be Offering to the doomed, but that skips your next draw
Fissure or soul taker. Back then it would have been tribute to the doomed
I’d like to see Ratpier be put to 3. If it’s really that problematic they can put it back to 1 we don’t really lose anything
At one it does nothing most of the power behind Zoodiac was Norden and Broadbull.
The rat is questionable but it wouldn't make it the best deck overnight.
@@IC-23
Brodboul just make bridge between zoo and other beast, but ratpear will give more advantage if at 3.
Fenrir at 3 would be awful. It’s just maxx c, you have to play it because it’s free and easy. Causes the opponent alot of problems with no downside at all.
1000% agreed on Toad
UNBAN MY SONS THEY LITERALLY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING
I'm sorry sir, him or spright elf.
Spright elf is a stupid card it needs to go
dudw love the vid and the jokes, also pend best deck
I knew someone would have to LOL
Thanks to the ban list I lost my Kashtira deck by making Fenrir and Birth at 1 so I swap that deck for Snake-Eyes
honestly Kashtira is still pretty good tbh, i play it as a going second deck filled with board breakers and it does well
My brother, Paleos have their own awesome boss monster 👀 ive been mainig pure paleos since they were called Burgesstomas in the OCG, ive been keeping them updated for the modern era and Transaction Rollback is absolutely insane for them! If you want my list i just posted master duel gameplay on my channel! Its tricky to learn but is absolutely viable!
why is snake eyes allowed to go plus 1 billion off of one poplar but I'm not allowed to have 3 engage in my blind 2nd sky striker deck?
I totally understand hornet drones being limited since it enables dumb shit, but engage to 2? no, decks these days are FULL of 1 card combos that set up disgustingly OP boards and I'm not allowed to have 1 more copy of a searcher I need to push through said busted ass boards?
I'm cool with engage staying hit, not for any logical reason I just hate playing against striker. It could come back without any worry to the meta or game
@@BreadBoyWeeb lots of people hate on SS because of the bad reputation it gained in the past, but in master duel, stun SS isn't even a thing since the only legal floodgate that works well with it is kaiser colosseum (and even with kaiser at 3 NOBODY is playing stun SS), I understand the hate for SS in the past, but now? Absolutely not, people have to move on and understand that SS isn't the deck it used to be anymore.
Because komoney are cowards that refuse to hit clearly broken cards until they have fully left the shop so they can make the most money
I agree some of them can come of the banlist like the pend and master peace but some are straight up funny.
- Fenrir just isnt a fun card to deal with in a maxx c format (speaking from ocg experience) also ariseheart is still a thing so…
- Runick will forever be a stun strategy sorry (even with mentioned floodgates ban) people will find a way to make this miserable to play against just look at all the random cards hit in the list
- Mermaid is generic af and it could probably come off the list if iblee is banned, i can see snake eye orcust could be real lmao
Bro master piece? You gotta be kidding. I don’t want him back but your tales are pretty good.
Master piece sucks especially now with floodgates limited
I agree with everything. Konami should release cards from the bablist more often... And ban more floodgates. They have no place in a BO1 format.
I want my Tri-Brigade back. Is it back? Is it not? I spend all my time into building this deck and shortly after it, they hit it so hard it was not playable anymore and I don't get it why. They had already decreased the consistency of the deck so much that you needed a lot of skill to compete, and there were two other decks that were better and, above all, more annoying.
Sillva, Warlord of Dark World
i miss playing it with my OG dark world deck
Is not like they hit Ceruli or something... Not only isn't needed but handrip, specially turn 1 is toxic
Or just imagine if they hit Grapha instead? Now that would be a complain
I agree at least put Silva to 1.
Everything I agree besides Fenrir they need an errata to unlimit the card, like in cannot search itself. What makes Fenrir a terror and can't be compared to Pank is because of its method of removal banishing cards facedown is a death sentence and not to mention him being able to replace himself and be special summoned if he gets destroyed is not cool and to add he can be played on your end board turn one or act as a board breaker turn 2 and in MD there is a unique interaction with him you can have a good read at your opponent handtraps if you activate his search
They should unban Pot of Greed
Wdym cup of ace is already legal
No
@@metalsoniczx16 cup of ace always heads
Red-Eyes Dark Dragoon getting unbanned and limited to 1 copy would be interesting. I mostly use Red-Eyes in Master Duel because its my favorite archetype and well, it's the only one I can understand. I know it's not the strongest archetype but with some good support, it can be quite surprising in a duel
I agree with everything you've just said. Although I don't have a problem with flood gates
I got around the choke points with my Odd-eyes/performapal deck. Played through TWO Ashes. Also found out that Predaplant monsters work well in the deck. Since they also rely on pendulum and dark monsters. And i certainly agree with Dark Dragoon. Also the fact that konami adds cards to Master Duel just to immediately ban them and not let us have them is stupid. And Maxx C being okay to use and arguably far more broken in today's game and Pot of Greed not being limited to 1 is just another reason why Konami sucks at making banlists.
Dragoon needs to be unbanned for just all the lower tier decks that need a good boss monster. No tiered deck will ever play Dragoon because you're running 3 bricks and an ED space to make it and every deck worth it's salt would prefer a playset of HTs over a dragoon line.
I would love to try playing Runick with Master Peace.
I'm okay with fenrir at 1, the others I agree with. I also want heavy storm to 1 and snatch steal back :)
Yeah main problem with fenrir for me was the fact it can search another copy of itself meaning you have to guess whether it searching a potential kashtira key piece or just searches another fenrir.
@@derpyquagsire6678 To be fair if you're facing Kashtira its a sigh of relief compared to the rest of the format, so letting it search isn't that bad
Besides all you said, Galaxy-Eyes Dark Matter Dragon should be JUST limited since it becomes just a 2x 4000 atk on monsters after its summoned. Yes, it is super strong, but Snake-eyes exist and I find so stupid to have a card that only works great with dragons absolutely banned
I agree with all of them, espascially runick and spright engine, ban the problem card wich is elf and than unban the other stuff.
As well as toad
I don’t think Elf needs a ban. To his actual point, with the other frogs being hit, the more broken plays aren’t even really possible if you do revive with Elf.
But I’m biased and like Elf as a tool in various rogue decks so I don’t want to see it hit regardless
@@Kintaku but Elf Is generic and abusable in other decks that's the problem ... Already Broken in fire decks and it's gonna be even more Broken in the future
@@zakariaelhimer1325 I mean the Elf has done way worse in the past than reborn a negate/enable synchro plays.
But also, Snake Eye is super busted without Elf. I won’t disagree that Elf is too generic, but I would argue it uplifts way more rogue decks than meta ones.
I just don’t think in MD right now the card is really doing enough to justify being banned. But also I’m biased, as already stated lol
if they ban elf my spright gishki will gonna die
I want Dragoon because I want more options for both my red eyes and dark magician decks. I would love to have Draco master peace
Pls bring back toad so i can play Kragen again :(
Where my stealth crackers at?
● Maybe they will unban Kirin when new Majespecter support is released on MD
● Toad, Prank-kids, and Elf: "Beleive me guys, this is toadtally fair card."
● Fenrir is too flexible, while Pankratops is only good for 2nd, or Dino deck. Just play Pankratops, Fenrir will make the turn 1 more annoying, and don't forget this will ruin some "non-meta" matches up in low ranked.
● About Runick, between MST and the funny Pink card, the problem is Hugin...
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Those floodgates are enough at 1, because they're like "boss monsters" for backrow. And they're very inconsistent as unsearchable limited card, and very situational. Because most monster bosses have very consistent methods to summon, with various effect, and sometimes floodgates too. And when I see the decks on that DCup. Almost all of them didn't have backrow removal. Imagine if someone refuses to play the Books in Purrely/Kash format, I believe most people will blame the player for not running the Books, not the decks.
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Limit Hugin, and backrow removal will be more impactful to beat them. Also, this will make their access to field spells less consistent.
There is 0 chance mermaid can come back dude.
Agreed. That card might be fine now but it can easily break the game depending on the format.
2:50 someone else who plays Paleo? honestly i just play it pure at this point when i can get away with it, and hope for more cards i can use in it because i don't see actual support ever coming.
4:59 *maniacal laugh* Please do return ratpier to 3. just for the chaos, I want to see how it would hold up.
7:31 OOOH BOY your going to get haaate for this one. I'm totally on board. it's my pet deck of pet decks, I'd like it back please.
8:05 it's to alter boardstates and as a format assessment id argue. if your deck has an out to them, you can trample right over any given stun/stall defensive line, but at the cost of usually being weaker to other decks who play the way far more often do, otherwise you have to find a route to wriggle out of it. Ill agree that Best of 1 complicates this, but the fact is floodgates aren't usually complained about to the same extent unless they are backrow because they aren't as easy to tackle for the average player.
8:33 personally I prefer to play the deck the way I wanted to- high risk mill, it's what i waited for it for. the problem is hitting all those cards like they did in MD forces your hand into either Engine or Stun, especially with fountain at one. I just don't have enough names to play it the way i want to. and ill be frank, Runick as an "engine" has not gone supremely far away, because in those situations your mostly just using every last card as an "instant fusion with a drawback" copy. Runick as an engine has been a thing for sometime, and it barely got hurt at first from all the cuts. I'm just not a fan of it for that purpose.
I agree with almost everything you said, especially Dragoon. But I completely disagree with your takes on Fenrir and Runick. Fenrir doesn't even need explanation to why is ridiculous and the Runick cards are not limited just because the Stun variant, is also because the mechanic of banishing your deck and the deck out strategy. Nevertheless, great video.
I agree with you, except for the Runick cards:))))
I wouldn't mind cyber jar coming off of the ban list, at least to 1, it may give some decks extra gas for getting out synchros/links, but at 1 I can't see it doing anything that other cards cant do and often do far better than it, especially with how rampant getting out 8k worth of damage in one turn is these days, not to mention how easy it would be to stop it.
I agree for most of the cards you mentioned exept the runick cards randomly banishing your deck is not fun and fenrir should be ban hate that card
tbh dragoon could be made with one less garnet as the destruction effect is a once per turn per normal monster used to make it, so if you use any effect dragon you could dump a good grave effect dragon instead of the vanilla red eyes and you would only lose 1 pop if they don't remove the dragoon and it goes back to your turn
Kashtira and Snake-Eyes have this annoying habit of locking us out of Pendulum Summoning thanks to Shangri locking the zone and by putting a non-pendulum monster in our Pendulum Zone.
For snake eyes is it Diabelize
@@BreadBoyWeeb
Sinful Spoils of Subversion and flamberge
@@BreadBoyWeeb Just flat-out says you can't use pendulums. Unban Plushfire I dare you
(Hint: please don't, that is the one pend card I think should stay banned)
I really want toad and master peace back. But master peace will entice the floodgates you despise so much lol
I want rhe adventure stuff to be unlimited so I can finally play Adventure Prank-Kids again now the Meow-mu is back
2 and 2 is still playableish, right? Idk for sure
Wasn’t the adventure pack already semi limited when they first dropped in MD the whole deck is basically back to normal aside from Todally or DPE
A card in MD barely cost any money. Not to mention that UR points is refundable. At worst, if the card once again proves to be too much of an issue just send them back to jail.
Last one on the list is a must, I bought one last year just waiting for it to come back and to be used on my true dracos
also snake eyes says "lmao nice scale Shure would be a shame if i put a monster there"
Snake-Eyes is the most blatant middle finger to pendulums since Master Rule 4. They aren't even trying to hide how much they hate the mechanic and people who play it anymore.
Kirin not unbanned in the TCG is a sin. I also hard disagree with Fenrir that card is completely fine at 1 no one likes to see it on the opponent's field.
Destiny Hero Celestial should’ve been taken off since you have to have a hand of 0 to draw 2 cards and wait a turn and you can ash or called by it
When knightmare mermaid comes back, I am returning to yugioh
Ive been saying for the past year that they need to unban Dragoon, and replace him with Verte. Verte is the only reason that card is 10/10 broken, on top of Verte just being a busted ass card anyway. Either ban it and free Dragoon, or Errata it's materials so Predaplants don't miss out on Verte. I would love nothing more than to splash Dragoon in a DM deck, but can't because of the snek.
Also, just a note: i would also love for Masterpeace to be unbanned, but i dont think it's a good idea. The amount of floodgates that he can abuse is insane, and i just don't think it'd be healthy for the game if he came off. Maybe at 1, but thats as far as i would take it. But, hey, what do i know?
Runick can stay where it is, having the ability to banish my cards from the top of my deck in a format where you have to build you deck to prepare for everything and draw to 6 cards using the fur hire engine plus have the ability to activate cards from the hand because of fountain is a bit too much for master duel.
Dude Runick is nowhere near the top of the food chain this format. How are you even surviving with Fire decks everywhere if you're worried about Runick killing you that hard.
@@UncleMerlin The reason I don't mind the fire deck as much as runick is because they are predictable though i admit that they are very strong, the reason why the fire decks are strong is because of their sustainability and the multiple approaches it had to get to it's end boards, but runick is like running into a battlefield blind, since they have so much interruptions during my turn, which are their ability to draw into multiple random handtraps, plus their runick spell effects, plus the other on board interruptions, plus their ability to technically activate multiple kashtira reinheart and please don't forget that fountain is a soft once per turn.
Nah as long as the field spell is at 1 the rest can come back not problem
i will say no for the runick, because banishing cards from top of deck is really annoying strategy
The video was good and respectable till you came to Runick. Runick being basicly dead in Master Duel is the only reason why I might come back to Master Duel in.. 5 years. If it's still alive then.
I really don't want to deal with runick again, specially with no side deck. the ratios they have are fine right now, or ban fountain but release everything else would also be fine.
free Masterpiece. There are A LOT more broken and annoying bossmonsters around these days. Plus, True Draco is massacred by Konami at this point, completely unviable..
Yes runick did nothing wrong, its a cool deck building option also a great value way for a free to play player to create multiple decks since they are useable in a ton of decks.
Also ratpier to 3 will do nothing because we dont have bull and norden.
But the card I want off the ban list is glow up bulb, fuckin halq the reason its banned is banned its just great synchro support or a techcard in most meta decks to give more access to bodies.
Why do you think the live action avatar show was garbage. Honestly for me it’s been pretty good. Also I agree with most of these except runick and a little to masterpiece cuz I hate true Draco. I don’t like the idea of banishing from my deck regardless of if it’s combo or stun. I really agree with fenrir. Being able to play around maxx c and gain some card advantage while being good disruption felt amazing to put in most of my decks. Some cards I’d like off the banlist besides the ones in this video would be FBG, chaos ruler, union carrier (errata to unions), and Infernity launcher.
The live avatar fundamentally misrepresents the characters in a way that changes them for the worse. Zuko is not supposed to be so kind and caring for Iroh until like book 2 at earliest. He is a dick and learns from this and regrets his actions. Katara lacks her fierce and motherly character for the cast, she felt way more like Sokkas little sister than a powerful outspoken member. The VFX and combat was really well done but I could go on for a while on how bad it is
@@BreadBoyWeeb Understandable. Yeah I agree with Katara. Her personality seems to be lacking and I honestly forgot zuko may not have been as nice to iroh as I remember early on. I guess the show wanted to portray the characters a little bit differently than in the animated show like with Bumi for example, but for characters like Katara they didn’t really show it well. Thanks for sharing your opinion on it.
Dragoon getting unbanned would be cool for Dark Magician, but not necessary nor ideal right now. The only viable way this occurs is when Konami drops a banlist that simultaneously Forbids Verte & Unbans Dragoon.
Would verte Dragoon really be a big deal in our current format? idk about that
Verte is already a problem with DPE, I see no issue in banning it
My tinfoil hat conspiracy theory is that because Fenrir plays unreasonably good into Maxx C so Konami wanted to make the roach even better by taking out one if it's soft counters (because Fenrir and some Handtraps pass js usually good enough to at the very least not die)
Well the game is probably directed to the otk route so I think I see why they did it, honestly f Fenrir, stupid card could be played in literally any deck, good riddance
@@emanuelstornello8009ok but it literally can’t. Before the banlist: dragon link didn’t play it, mathmech didn’t play it, branded didn’t play it, purrely and labrynth rarely played it
Where my real ones who cut out timaeus united in their tcg decks?
001DMG; decklist on dueling nexus
I disagree with at least 2 of these.
Fenrir is honesty fine at 1 copy. That card is too easy to summon and it’s powerful effect has no cost; it also searches itself.
Runicks as much as i don’t like them, i can hear the argument, except for Fountain. People work hard for a draw 1 or 2 and this thing draws 3 cards almost every turn. That gets annoying really quickly.
As a Penguin player, the loss of Toad was crushing. Free my boys.
As long as bahamut is leagal you can cheat out toad.
Not an argument, just a fact
Ya that's fine. In the TCG sharks were able to consistently end on 2 toads 1 UDF and that was never an incredibly dominant strategy. Not an argument, just a fact
@@BreadBoyWeeb true.wasn't arguing the point, just pointing out that toad was usable in more than just spright🤣
@@supsup335 True true. But I really want to those decks to have it back. I just miss the silly frog my guy I bought the mate and every time I look at it I shed a tear LMAOOOOOOOO
I'm down to overlay 2 reinohearts for bahamut make toad then spright elf lol
@@crimsonvolt8357 that’s completely fine. That’s not super consistent and sharks were ending on 2 toad UDF for a long time without causing any issues
Yeah the unhits to runic are just an L. At least ban fountain if you wanna let the other ones live. This engine is already too splashable and is just incredibility irritating to be on the other side of. Knowing your already dead but the other player takes more turns than they have too. As for the stun issue, kill those too. Skill drain, tcboo, gozen, hell even kill royal decree just out of spite. None of these cards are healthy, while mst by itself isn't good, the fact fountain turns any runic spell into an instant fusion, a hand trap and a graceful charity without the discard is just something i'd expect to be banned since like 2004, not something that's still legal. Every other take is a W except knightmare Mermaid and master piece, i think those are sketchy on different sides of that line. Personally keep mermaid banned and master piece limited would be my take but i think either of those being banned or limited are more than defaceable.
Runick itself is an extremely powerful engine already. So even if we can forever kill off the Stun cards, some type of hit is still deserved.
As for the Adventure Package, I personally wouldn't mind them going the OCG route and outright banning Gryphon Rider, in favor of Illegal Knight. I personally like the push against all omni-negate this. Omni-negate that.
Also, I loathe Pendulums Summons. So anything to make them suffer is fine to me.
Pendulums are already barely alive. You don't need to ask for more hits. Just play Snake-Eyes, some of their upcoming support completely locks out pendulum players lmao
Ya Runick Bystial didn’t get to work in MD cuz of all the hits
Bystial runick just sucks in general imo
The bystial hits sucks so much. In this fire format surely they can unlimit the bystials? If they are worried about branded then they can keep saronir at 1 but unlimit the rest of them at least.
I can see Dragoon being played in ladder a ton tho
As long as Verte is around.
DPE, the better version, is at 3 and doesn't see play. Why would everyone suddenly pivot towards Dragoon?
because dark magician BAAAT@@AxSKamikaze
yeah gold and below where dark magician players set their camps right next to with blue eyes players
All I can think of is Muddy Mudragon bringing it on the board or Swamp King shenanigans but besides that idk. Pretty sure cards like Chengying still just instantly remove it.
(This invalidates the effect btw so, ????)
((Nevermind just one of these, it is still an Omni Negate Mechaba))
Tearlaments Merrli
Just limit one at least, I want all my waifu to be together.
Man wants Merrli back with Elf around lmao
It's either merrli or kitkalos you can't have both
Knightmare mermaid is a huge problem card
Merrli can and should come off the banlist. Tears got hit way too hard.
isnt it hilarious that toad is banned but has a mate?
I do not understand why people don't like fenrir, in my opinion it is an extremely healthy card, as a matter of fact any card that's good both going first and going second like imperm, talents etc. In a best of one format cards like these are extremely needed, and in a format filled with certain earth insects, it's great that you have a card that can sometimes be an end-board on it's own. I understand that people dislike kashtira, but hitting a card like fenrir is not the answer to that
People don’t like it because of the exact reasons you said. A card that drops itself on the field for no cost and can be, as you said, “an end board on it’s own” is not a healthy design.
Most times it demands your full attention along with taking on what ever strategy your opponent sets up.
It’s basically a way more accessible Draco Berserker, but that card is balanced by being a synchro monster. Fenrir can also search itself, so you can’t even say you are dealing with just 1.
The card is fine limited to 1. Doesn’t need to be banned but limited is quite fine. And Kashtira is still one of the better decks in the game even with it at one copy.
@@CasualKeem Heavy disagree, especially for a best of one format, cards that are good going first and second should be the main design point. Playing going second blowout boardbreakers sucks when you draw them going first, and when you draw none of them going second you lose badly because you can't play through the board your opponent set up. Cards that are good both going first and second should be the main design focus.
I dont know how they pre hit a lot of strategies but snake eyes comes out full power.
it is shameless, and we haven't even gotten bonfire yet
Im a bit iffy on the runick cards because BO1 format and all that i agree there should be some unhits and the total eradication of all floodgates but im not sure if fountain should be unlimited.
And i don't think i agree with the knightmare mermaid point when it comes to the iblee lock scenario. Sure it's not good for now because of the tier 0 deck but once we're out of that where there's variety in the format and some decks are locked into specific summoning types for example branded, iblee just creates non games there (irony in being able to lock out a branded player lmao) I feel like if we were to bring back mermaid I'd probably want iblee banned and though some decks can already do it mermaid makes it far more accessible to decks that can stack it on top of a combo board rather than specifically cyberse piles.
But on another note
ADVENTURE ENGINE TO THREE THE SYNCHRONS ARE GOING ON AN ADVENTURE SPREE
Mathmech has been able to do the iblee lock since circular, and it hasn't been doing it at all. Ya I should have clarified with Runick I want to see literally all those floodgates banned I should have elaborated further. And we getting the adventure engine back Honest I believe. Though I genuinely believe if we banned all flooddgates the game would get better
@@BreadBoyWeeb I mean yeah Mathmech has been able to do it and it hasn't but that's because it trades for a part of the endboard. If they went for the Iblee lock I don't think they'd be able to reach their normal endboard that they normally do but if mermaid was unbanned what's to stop a deck like SHS from using it? I dunno I think it's a bit iffy because instead of just specifically cyberse piles having access to the lock it's any deck and would benefit ones which could put up a few extra bodies to spare for the lock
Getting the adventure engine back would definitely be helpful cause adventure synchron is probably my favorite deck of all time to play (wombo combo player alert) and yeah at this point floodgates don't really bring anything interesting to the table anymore and are way more impactful than they were 20 years ago at this point they just make games frustrating so I definitely would like them gone (so I can have an excuse to play no floodgates Labrynth)
Fenrir should be banned in the TCG. A FREE quick effect facedown banish on a main deck level 7 with no restrictions on its special summon is ludocrous.
I am all for bringing mermaid back! Orcust needs all the help it can get
As a branded player, i would love to see fusion go back to 3 and puppet and the other lock cards go to 0. Seriously, one ash still shuts you down, and the meta has moved on. So can i please not have to worry if the sixth opponent in a row drops ash on my fusion? I prop die anyway to lab or snakeeye, so might as well give me a chance.
Branded is still considered one of the best decks in the game right now... Lol BF can stay at 1. Cards that fuse from the deck are silly and limit future card design
I agree. In the TCG its at 3 and its fine. Sometimes I just go on Omega to play it at full power
Ah master peace ❤❤❤
Back then I used to make decks around that card ...
Yes! Please give me Master Peace!! True Draco was one of my favorite decks.
I subbed due to toadally awesome vid.
Ban floodgates AND Runick cards. Neither should exist. Stop touching my deck.
Bruh i was on board with you up until you mentioned runicks. The runick archetype is the single most frustrating and boring deck to play againts. They never attack you or do anything they just stall and grind out. Nobody wants to play that kind of game. Even if you ban all floodgates and stun cards runick is still anyoying as fuck to play againts. All runick cards should remain banned.
No
Runick stun sucks, but variants that use their monsters and adapt their effects to go through boards are a different story
I was a pure Runick, and ended with Fabled Runick of all things till they masacred it
@@gaaraofthefunk265 Nice arguments brother.
@@YuruYuriYuruah so you ignore the comment that goes against what you said with actual logic lol
Can I please get Chaos Ruler back (and Saronir to 3)? Like, he wasn't even the nail in the coffin for d-link. Wyverburster is the hit that mattered.
I just wanna play P.U.N.K. Bystial or Orcust again...
Just unhit dragon link, the deck did not deserve to get hit that hard
Konami PLEASE ban all the floodgates so I can use runick as an engine. Also let spright live pls, those level 2 bois have been hit too hard
Please take Dragoon off the list, Ive never used it 😩
They can't unban Dragun because it's the most powerful single summon you can make through a Maxx C. And we can't have our precious little Maxx C be bothered now, can we?
It's not. Both DPE and Mirrorjade are better and are just as generic
@@shakeweller You're allowed to be wrong, just don't bother me in the process
Yeah we need the toad back, we need a good bahamut shark target again!
You lost me at Runick. Nah im fine with that deck being guttered.
If frog comes back tear will get a big boost. They can make toad and wit elf still legal they can just do what Spright would do, oh yea and kit is still in game so yea, don’t bring toad back. Fenrier ain’t in hell going back to 3 unless the macro body is banned. No one wants kash back.
I assume you’re talking about Bahamut shark to make toad in tear. Getting 2 waters on the field is not consistent
@@BreadBoyWeeb i mean it isn’t that hard though, certainly wasnt’ hard in tcg and we don’t have kit. Rhino still at 3, and Mudragon can be made pretty easily if you mill a name so making bahamut shark is super easy. There’s also a level 4 water that when milled can special itself.
It's not that big of a boost as you rarely get to a position where you can make bahamut especially these days and it costs valuable ed space
@@jimtsap04 i mean in tcg it was done a lot.
@@AndrewUdal yeah with 3 reino 3 scheiren terra and 3 total fuse effects per turn
Verte in master isnt much of problem since dragoon is banned. If fact the time i have playing master duel bearly anyone uses it. Unbanning dragoon will make verte a problem and or dtagoon a problem
Dragoon does nothing though. Its worse DPE and it just gives mid and low tier decks ab omni.
No player worth their salt in high ladder will play it because you need to run min 2 and mostly 3 bricks to get it running. That's literally 3 HTs worth of space that could've been used and been live on turn 1 instead of bricking your hands or requiring engine lines to go into.
Just ban the damn snake. Its own deck can't even use it, it's just a problem in any (other) deck that can use fusion at all.
I say this as someone who loves Predaplants and Verte's art. It's a badly designed card. It either needs a hefty errata or to just be banned.
Unban Chaos Ruler. Its ban killed my chaos pile
Well what about merrli? 🤨
Bro idk pendulum leaves such a weird taste in my mouth. That’s probably just cope from a salty galaxy eyes player so who knows😅
Pendulums will never be as strong as they were in MR3. Let us have a few nice things, Konami has made it clear how much they hate our guts