Bro!! Your arm is lightning fast!! I was the upper 90, triple-digit guy myself and I can tell you first-hand that, that initial drift is pivotal. Think of it as getting permission to get a running start and punch somebody. You wouldn't load back and then take off running. You would get a running start and then hop back to punch. Great video buddy!!
I really appreciate that you are straight forward and don't waste time in what you are communicating with silly stories, dropping names of clients or yucking it up with your buddies. You seem very knowledgeable and desirous of helping others. Oh, and, THAT POOR CATCHER! LOL!
I’m watching this 4 years later and the video u showed of degrom might be a revelation for me. Currently a high school senior who throws 80-83 and ready to try this and see if it helps with both command and velo
you can think about it in terms of loading from your front leg, pushing into your back leg , while not moving your back leg , this will allow the weight shift to be more explosive when coming forward, as you transfer more energy into your back leg, from your front leg
... comes up to some guy spinning a sign outside Little Ceasar's. "Hey, bub. You wanna second job - earn some more cash?" "Sure - what do you need me to do?" "It's simple - just catch some baseballs while we get some film." "I'm in - lets go!"
the best way that helped me stay back was just starting with my weight is my back leg and staying like that. even out of windup i would start with my right leg flexed and my shoulders tilted. also have a hunch like Nola or Halladay really helped too.
Interesting concept. Having coached high school baseball for 30 years and been a balance point teacher I feel this is for the very upper level high school athlete or the college player. Most young pitchers have a hard enough time walking and chewing gum at the same time.
You still shouldn't teach the young players to come to a balance point. Don't hurt a player's long term development for short term development, nobody cares how many JV games they win and it's selfish coaching.
@@ryanredsox3475 yup...and it's systemic, coaches generally won't take risk or won't try to maximize the individual players, they'll simply do whats needed to keep their jobs...the standard is too low, like parenting, there's no accountability for most coaches, since most people watching don't have a clue either
That was a near death experience to say the least. Lefty catcher, no cup, no thumb guard and a side-arm 97 mph fastball from 56' away. Just glad I lived to tell the tale. Hahah. -Coan
Throwing out an idea here. Something I’ve worked a few kids on. Stretch mechanics out of the wind-up. Standing at a 45 degree angle on the rubber, but instead of a rocker step, go straight into a leg lift and pitch as if it was the stretch. I’m utilizing equal and opposite reaction. The straight on feeling made it easier to drift towards the target and it also force the pitchers to get some counter rotation in their upper body if they wanted any velo on the throw. What do you think?
Question I’ve always taught my pitchers to maintain level shoulders when I’m the mound. Unless there is flexion on the back leg because the front leg is on the slope. Are you suggesting maybe keeping that tilt instead of intentionally trying to keep the shoulders level. This would seem to me to assist with momentum with the drift.
Can we say that we are not putting any weight on the outside of the rubber foot when we go into the leg lift? Are we keeping the weight on the inner part of the foot that’s engaged on the rubber?
Sorry, the word "drift" was used by Bill Thurston, Pitching Consultant, ASMI in his article long before you "coined" the term, "drift". He used in his book, "Coaching Youth Baseball" in 2000-04-19.
I'm curious about your thoughts on holding runners. Rodney's move is faster to the plate but presumably sacrificing the 3mph you pick up with a more aggressive Lincecum-esqu drift. I find that I want to be more deliberate to home for pitching effectiveness but with a base stealer on first feel like I have to modify my mechanics.
We actually discussed the concept of tempo down the mound and its correlation with velo around the 12:18 mark in our Edwin Diaz breakdown. Check it out here: th-cam.com/video/vG6WM7FfQvI/w-d-xo.html
@@treadathletics ooh, can't wait to watch that entire video. But yeah, good point, you have to weigh the trade offs, and if you throw that much better being slow to the plate then be slow and make up for it with the other ways of keeping runners honest. Thanks!!!
I am 13 trying to find a better weight transfer to power my hips, so i tried drifting but it makes the rest if my mechanics feel rushed because i am leaning towards the plate as soon as i lift my leg. Any tips?
Step backs are great to gain stability with it. You also may be over drifting. It's a subtle move of only a few inches, you shouldn't feel like you're falling forward.
I think a great example of the "drift" is Yoshinobu Yamamoto of Orix Buffalos in NPB. He's only 5f7 but throws max 97 and average 95. He has a javelin style mechanic which greatly shows the "drift". th-cam.com/video/fxnvlET-AJ4/w-d-xo.html Go to 57seconds if anyone wants to see him pitch and his "drift".
Pitching and releasing from probably 55 or 54 feet. Yes I see it going around 95. Folks that one pitch is what a 95 mph fastball looks like. It's fassssst.
Bro!! Your arm is lightning fast!! I was the upper 90, triple-digit guy myself and I can tell you first-hand that, that initial drift is pivotal. Think of it as getting permission to get a running start and punch somebody. You wouldn't load back and then take off running. You would get a running start and then hop back to punch. Great video buddy!!
Byron Embry what do you drift with and how do I feel this
ahh gimme a few years ill get there too
6 months and i can say gimme a few years and ill be there.
I really appreciate that you are straight forward and don't waste time in what you are communicating with silly stories, dropping names of clients or yucking it up with your buddies. You seem very knowledgeable and desirous of helping others.
Oh, and, THAT POOR CATCHER! LOL!
I’m watching this 4 years later and the video u showed of degrom might be a revelation for me. Currently a high school senior who throws 80-83 and ready to try this and see if it helps with both command and velo
Did it work
How’d it go?
How hard now?
you can think about it in terms of loading from your front leg, pushing into your back leg , while not moving your back leg , this will allow the weight shift to be more explosive when coming forward, as you transfer more energy into your back leg, from your front leg
Was doing video analysis on myself very happy I found this video!!!
My 12 yr old does an aggressive postierier body rock 9:54 but is pitching very well. Is this something that should be corrected? thanks!
... comes up to some guy spinning a sign outside Little Ceasar's.
"Hey, bub. You wanna second job - earn some more cash?"
"Sure - what do you need me to do?"
"It's simple - just catch some baseballs while we get some film."
"I'm in - lets go!"
To be fair it was 96-98 from 58 feet away. But yes we give him a hard time for these clips!
3mph jump in the intro!...yep i'll be watching the whole 17 minutes
the best way that helped me stay back was just starting with my weight is my back leg and staying like that. even out of windup i would start with my right leg flexed and my shoulders tilted. also have a hunch like Nola or Halladay really helped too.
Interesting concept. Having coached high school baseball for 30 years and been a balance point teacher I feel this is for the very upper level high school athlete or the college player. Most young pitchers have a hard enough time walking and chewing gum at the same time.
You still shouldn't teach the young players to come to a balance point. Don't hurt a player's long term development for short term development, nobody cares how many JV games they win and it's selfish coaching.
@@ryanredsox3475 yup...and it's systemic, coaches generally won't take risk or won't try to maximize the individual players, they'll simply do whats needed to keep their jobs...the standard is too low, like parenting, there's no accountability for most coaches, since most people watching don't have a clue either
Love the step back windup throws!!!
That poor catcher lol
That was a near death experience to say the least. Lefty catcher, no cup, no thumb guard and a side-arm 97 mph fastball from 56' away. Just glad I lived to tell the tale. Hahah. -Coan
@@treadathletics That surely didn't look like 60' 6".
Extraordinarily well explained and thought through!
You make great videos for elite pitchers
Throwing out an idea here. Something I’ve worked a few kids on. Stretch mechanics out of the wind-up. Standing at a 45 degree angle on the rubber, but instead of a rocker step, go straight into a leg lift and pitch as if it was the stretch. I’m utilizing equal and opposite reaction. The straight on feeling made it easier to drift towards the target and it also force the pitchers to get some counter rotation in their upper body if they wanted any velo on the throw. What do you think?
Interesting - I'd have to see more to have an opinion.
Who is that catcher? You were killing him 😂😂😂
Excellent video.
Good stuff Ben
Question I’ve always taught my pitchers to maintain level shoulders when I’m the mound. Unless there is flexion on the back leg because the front leg is on the slope. Are you suggesting maybe keeping that tilt instead of intentionally trying to keep the shoulders level. This would seem to me to assist with momentum with the drift.
Some good info, but hard to follow without using a mound and rubber.
Can we say that we are not putting any weight on the outside of the rubber foot when we go into the leg lift? Are we keeping the weight on the inner part of the foot that’s engaged on the rubber?
Sorry, the word "drift" was used by Bill Thurston, Pitching Consultant, ASMI in his article long before you "coined" the term, "drift". He used in his book, "Coaching Youth Baseball" in 2000-04-19.
The honest here is unusual. Great video
I'm curious about your thoughts on holding runners. Rodney's move is faster to the plate but presumably sacrificing the 3mph you pick up with a more aggressive Lincecum-esqu drift. I find that I want to be more deliberate to home for pitching effectiveness but with a base stealer on first feel like I have to modify my mechanics.
We actually discussed the concept of tempo down the mound and its correlation with velo around the 12:18 mark in our Edwin Diaz breakdown. Check it out here: th-cam.com/video/vG6WM7FfQvI/w-d-xo.html
@@treadathletics ooh, can't wait to watch that entire video. But yeah, good point, you have to weigh the trade offs, and if you throw that much better being slow to the plate then be slow and make up for it with the other ways of keeping runners honest. Thanks!!!
Great info!
God Bless you guys!
The catcher in this video is like fu*k this sh*t! 🤣🤣
I am 13 trying to find a better weight transfer to power my hips, so i tried drifting but it makes the rest if my mechanics feel rushed because i am leaning towards the plate as soon as i lift my leg. Any tips?
Step backs are great to gain stability with it. You also may be over drifting. It's a subtle move of only a few inches, you shouldn't feel like you're falling forward.
Thanks!
who was the pitcher at 5:20
Tim Lincecum
Lincecum used enough momentum and weight shift to help him but he had a live arm. Ran out of bullets at 10 years as a pro.
great info and great video.
Is it your theory that pitchers shouldn’t triple extend through their back side?
Thx!
Would u be able to break down one of my pitching videos?
Where are yall located?
-Michael Clemens
Charlotte, NC
11:30
Could you try this in a pool? I think so
I really feel bad for that catcher
09:11
I think a great example of the "drift" is Yoshinobu Yamamoto of Orix Buffalos in NPB. He's only 5f7 but throws max 97 and average 95. He has a javelin style mechanic which greatly shows the "drift".
th-cam.com/video/fxnvlET-AJ4/w-d-xo.html
Go to 57seconds if anyone wants to see him pitch and his "drift".
He's filthy!
I can't drift. I don't even have a driver's license yet- oh wait this is baseball video never mind.
3 mph jump c'mon man lol
ACCEPT JESUS AS YOUR LORD AND SAVIOR
Ur poor catcher😭
How about you try throwing form 60ft 6 inches. Anyone can throw 95 from 25 ft away.
You dont pitch faster when your closer thats not how it works
that’s not how radar guns work, dipshit.
This has to be the dumbest comment I’ve ever seen.
You are an idiot.
Pitching and releasing from probably 55 or 54 feet. Yes I see it going around 95. Folks that one pitch is what a 95 mph fastball looks like. It's fassssst.