Never forget the person that helped end the war was then also imprisoned himself after his help for being gay. Being gay was a crime everywhere, not just an awful Nazi crime. It is a dark past we all share.
I'm sorry but I don't consider imprisoning people for pederasty to be "dark" and in fact most well known cases of homosexuals imprisoned purely for homosexuality in the West (I'm referring to the UK specifically though) were, in fact cases involving pederasty and young male prostitutes or men in positions of power grooming boys, school teachers for example. Pederasty is the original form of the orientation, you know "Greek Love"? People of mutual age and social status hooking up isn't even 100 years old.
@@CandiceGoddard That's nonsense. Homosexuality has always been with us, and sexual relations between consenting adults is nothing new. Where did you get the ridiculous idea it's only 100 years old? Further, homosexuality and pedophilia are not the same thing. Some homosexuals may engage in sex with underage boys and/or girls, but then some heterosexuals also engage in sex with underage boys and/or girls. Sexual abuse of minors, by straight or gay people, is illegal. What consenting adults choose to do in the privacy of their own home should be THEIR business and no one else's.
@@CandiceGoddard No, that's just entirely historical revisionism. You've created an entire fiction, and thats not what happened. The pink triangle was a collective designation for all men deemed sxly abnormal. Grown men with men, and men with boys, and boys with boys had the same labeling. I think you should look into classifications before making such abhorrent statements.
Yes, you are absolutely right there. I read the story of a ‘pink triangle’ prisoner not being released from the German prison system till 1950 (5 years after the end of the Nazi regime).
@@tomflendodo7297 It is a well known fact. The Allied powers believed that the crimes that gay people had been imprisoned for were legitimate and they were transferred from concentration camps to legitimate prisons to serve the remainders of their original sentences.
The pink triange is still used now by gay and bisexual men, and transgender women as a symbol of pride and resilience. The black triangle (iirc) is still used by lesbians, bisexual women and transgender men.
@@abbatrouble Sure, I think they use it as a very direct symbolic representation of resilience against adversity. That is always something to be proud of though.
@@TriciaVarney-to4od No, you don't understand the history and culture behind these symbols. There are many Christian people who still use these symbols as LGBT Christians. It means "I am here, I am alive, I am Christian, and I thank the Lord for the life Ive been given".
I think many of the accusations were false or at least unproven given that many were raped when they were imprisoned. It reminds me of how in the UK even into the 70s (when the paedophile information exchange started openly lobbying for equal rights for paedophiles) boys were often sent to young offenders prisons or put into care and then farmed out or abused in those facilities by pederasts in the church, police, entertainment, the care workers themselves, etc. It seems like opportunistic abuse of vulnerable people who were slandered (or not) to make them less sympathetic. Even today when we hear about homosexuals being raped in prison by supposedly straight men, it's actually a closeted homosexual raping an openly gay man because a heterosexual simply doesn't rape a member of their own sex...
I do have one question? What stopped them from switching shirts with those who had passed away, avoiding the stigma and violence? There were so many different badges and combinations of badges used. The prisoners would have all looked the same to the guards. I know there were roll calls everyday, did they also check the badges etc?
1.they did not have acces to the dead...the dead were dealt by other prisoners... 2.each barack had a kapo (a prisoner that in exchange for better food woud be the informant and boss of the barack) 3.they all suffered the gays,the jews,the priests,the political german prisoners...there was no escape...but trough death....
There was no avoiding the violence during the Nazis reign of terror. Especially if you were in a camp… pink triangle, yellow star…. You’re going to be getting a death sentence or worse: a living hell in the camp whatever badge you had. The Nazis were incredibly “efficient” in there gen0cide and approached it with German organisation. Roll call was MEGA strict and took hours, prisoners froze to death waiting to be counted, you would 99.9% get caught there if you initially even managed it. They didn’t want anyone escaping did they…. There were also seperate barracks, it wasn’t a general population mingling. There were kappos ie prisoners who collaborated with guards for food and privileges so they would know or find you out and report you. Instant death. Instant. They had a fake family camp in one, which himmler let the Red Cross inspect, as soon as they’d been he rounded every one up and-well you know where they went! I could go on but I’m already being boring…. Never. Forget.
The guards knew exactly who the prisoners were. There was no point in trying to hide it anyway. If they tried it to outsmart the guards they would have been shot and put on display to terrify the other prisoners. No win situation.
Duty of remembrance is important. We have to question History. Culture is a perpetual questionning. Some sort of mysterious puzzle to solve. Feelings and emotions are not enough. Curiosity is not a bad vice. Why...why...Why...
I knew about the purple traiangles as I had the video,but not these. The purple were Jehovahs Witnesses who were known as Bible Students then. After the war, they changed their name to make Gods name known.
Never forget the person that helped end the war was then also imprisoned himself after his help for being gay. Being gay was a crime everywhere, not just an awful Nazi crime. It is a dark past we all share.
I'm sorry but I don't consider imprisoning people for pederasty to be "dark" and in fact most well known cases of homosexuals imprisoned purely for homosexuality in the West (I'm referring to the UK specifically though) were, in fact cases involving pederasty and young male prostitutes or men in positions of power grooming boys, school teachers for example. Pederasty is the original form of the orientation, you know "Greek Love"? People of mutual age and social status hooking up isn't even 100 years old.
@@CandiceGoddard That's nonsense. Homosexuality has always been with us, and sexual relations between consenting adults is nothing new. Where did you get the ridiculous idea it's only 100 years old? Further, homosexuality and pedophilia are not the same thing. Some homosexuals may engage in sex with underage boys and/or girls, but then some heterosexuals also engage in sex with underage boys and/or girls. Sexual abuse of minors, by straight or gay people, is illegal. What consenting adults choose to do in the privacy of their own home should be THEIR business and no one else's.
@@CandiceGoddard No, that's just entirely historical revisionism. You've created an entire fiction, and thats not what happened. The pink triangle was a collective designation for all men deemed sxly abnormal. Grown men with men, and men with boys, and boys with boys had the same labeling. I think you should look into classifications before making such abhorrent statements.
May I ask who was the gay person who helped end the war?
@@A2D4 Turing.
The pink triangle prisoners were kept imprisoned by the allies after the nazis were defeated.
HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT ??????
@@tomflendodo7297 I was told so by a tour guide at a concentration camp that housed pink triangle prisoners.
Yes, you are absolutely right there. I read the story of a ‘pink triangle’ prisoner not being released from the German prison system till 1950 (5 years after the end of the Nazi regime).
@@tomflendodo7297 It is a well known fact. The Allied powers believed that the crimes that gay people had been imprisoned for were legitimate and they were transferred from concentration camps to legitimate prisons to serve the remainders of their original sentences.
Let's remember all 6 million that were murdered!! Ok? Gypsies, Priests, Nuns. All of them!!!
Often forgotten and rarely mentioned...😢 We should never forget😢😢😢
My dad has a neighbor who wears a pink triangle earring thanks for sharing I didn’t know where it came from
Our. Lesson. Is. NEVER. FORGET 🌼🙏🏻💜🙏🏻💙🌼
Hasn't even been a hundred years and it is now happening again in the US.
The pink triange is still used now by gay and bisexual men, and transgender women as a symbol of pride and resilience. The black triangle (iirc) is still used by lesbians, bisexual women and transgender men.
It may not be something to be ashamed of but it also is not something to be proud of!
@@abbatrouble Sure, I think they use it as a very direct symbolic representation of resilience against adversity. That is always something to be proud of though.
It is only a symbol of rebellion to Gods word.
@@TriciaVarney-to4od No, you don't understand the history and culture behind these symbols. There are many Christian people who still use these symbols as LGBT Christians. It means "I am here, I am alive, I am Christian, and I thank the Lord for the life Ive been given".
😂😂😂😂😂
Can't say.
It might be false accusation against these men. Because every body knows, how cruel the nazis were.
I think many of the accusations were false or at least unproven given that many were raped when they were imprisoned. It reminds me of how in the UK even into the 70s (when the paedophile information exchange started openly lobbying for equal rights for paedophiles) boys were often sent to young offenders prisons or put into care and then farmed out or abused in those facilities by pederasts in the church, police, entertainment, the care workers themselves, etc.
It seems like opportunistic abuse of vulnerable people who were slandered (or not) to make them less sympathetic.
Even today when we hear about homosexuals being raped in prison by supposedly straight men, it's actually a closeted homosexual raping an openly gay man because a heterosexual simply doesn't rape a member of their own sex...
I do have one question? What stopped them from switching shirts with those who had passed away, avoiding the stigma and violence? There were so many different badges and combinations of badges used. The prisoners would have all looked the same to the guards. I know there were roll calls everyday, did they also check the badges etc?
1.they did not have acces to the dead...the dead were dealt by other prisoners...
2.each barack had a kapo (a prisoner that in exchange for better food woud be the informant and boss of the barack)
3.they all suffered the gays,the jews,the priests,the political german prisoners...there was no escape...but trough death....
There was no avoiding the violence during the Nazis reign of terror. Especially if you were in a camp… pink triangle, yellow star…. You’re going to be getting a death sentence or worse: a living hell in the camp whatever badge you had.
The Nazis were incredibly “efficient” in there gen0cide and approached it with German organisation.
Roll call was MEGA strict and took hours, prisoners froze to death waiting to be counted, you would 99.9% get caught there if you initially even managed it. They didn’t want anyone escaping did they….
There were also seperate barracks, it wasn’t a general population mingling.
There were kappos ie prisoners who collaborated with guards for food and privileges so they would know or find you out and report you. Instant death. Instant.
They had a fake family camp in one, which himmler let the Red Cross inspect, as soon as they’d been he rounded every one up and-well you know where they went!
I could go on but I’m already being boring….
Never. Forget.
Each prisoner had a number as well. I wish it was as easy as you suggest...
I mean that exact train of thought is why those horrible tattoos existed.
Plus the dead were delt with separatey obviously by the authorities.
The guards knew exactly who the prisoners were. There was no point in trying to hide it anyway. If they tried it to outsmart the guards they would have been shot and put on display to terrify the other prisoners. No win situation.
NEVER FORGET!!!
Duty of remembrance is important. We have to question History. Culture is a perpetual questionning. Some sort of mysterious puzzle to solve. Feelings and emotions are not enough. Curiosity is not a bad vice. Why...why...Why...
JUST WANT TO CLARIFY ITS NEVER GREY/BLACK WHEN THEY CALL IT PINK
escape from sorbibor too never forget that
I knew about the purple traiangles as I had the video,but not these. The purple were Jehovahs Witnesses who were known as Bible Students then. After the war, they changed their name to make Gods name known.
So sad
Oh god here we go
😢😢
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Im hlad fór that Théy need to do that every where
What lack of Parental Supervision does to an 8 year old:
Sounds like this could happen here😢
Oh, no, it does not 🙄
What as awful thing to say @mattricck you have clearly learnt nothing!!!
Spoken by someone who has never really dealt with hate
IT WILL HAPPEN HERE !!!!!! JUST A MATTER of TIME !!!!!!!!!!!❤
I really hope so
Never ever forget. Vote blue.
NEVER EVER Forget all of the prisoners vote RED TRUMP 2024
every vote red or blue goes to the 🧃