I once tried to get a base estimate from a hospital. Lady told me it was illegal to give that information. And if a hospital gives terrible care there are no repurcussions.
In Hungary, besides the government hospitals, there are many many private clinics performing modern surgeries, and having fixed price lists. On a vacation I paid about $120 for a 15-minute scalpel local anesthesia outpatient surgery, had an appointment for the next working day after I called the first time, without being an "established patient". No insurance needed, no preapprovals. US doctors first look for unrelated illnesses like cancer, then maybe a few months later they examine me for the illness in the actual symptoms. Not them at the private clinics in Hungary.
had 3 surgeries in 1 day at his center you pay- they cut- your done pretty simple. all my doctors are young because I'm old and they are convinced they will not make any money if they go cash only or get sued to to death if something goes wrong. also most people have been brainwashed into thinking they have to have insurance. how many times have you heard people say "it was free because insurance payed for it"?
Lets go!! Love that you interviewed this man this is going to be one of my favorites o can tell. Everybody wants health care solutions and he is solving a portion of it!
If bread was distributed through insurance, it would cost $50 per loaf and there'd be a waiting list. Also, the baker wouldd decide what bread you need.
I know a lot of people are complaining about healthcare and the denials and delays etc… But I e if my main needs is that we, the patient have little to no control over anything other than paying the bill when it comes. For example, the anesthesia for my last colonoscopy was denied and I was handed a bill for $1600. Was there a different type of anesthesia the doctor could have used? If so, why did t the doctors office (who did the pre authorization for me) use the alternate method instead? If health insurance companies expect you to do procedures and surgery without anesthesia (considering it an optional luxury) then why was that I do not brought to my attention so I could choose not to do the procedure (since it was a screening only) so as not to get sacked with the large bill? It’s like we’re all sitting ducks paying into a system that uses and abuses us at will.
This topic as well as re-industrializing America are top subjects in our zeitgeist.. terrifs on foreign goods means we have to produce it ourselves.. 3D printing with AI help in durable materials is a super exciting field of study.. keep up the great work..
Fantastic interview Freedom-Doctors in Sturbridge Massachusetts is attempting similar things for primary care but finding issues not being able to refer for anyone with a HMO plan… hopefully there will be more options like this in our area.
Voluntary free markets always perform best. After all, in a free market, there's nothing to preclude a charity or coop or local government from creating a community health care center. If the local people vote to tax themselves for their own local care, that's fine. Like everything, the problem occurs when it gets too big and government controls too much and then all the alternatives that keep prices down and improve progress are lost.
Free market seems best for many things, but for the more rare conditions it seems like there would be much less incentive to research. But it's obvious the more centrally controlled, the less quality
capitalism is not the problem, Bob! My God, how could you listen to Keith and conclude so wrongly? As Keith said, the lack of a free market is the problem! This will be my last visit to your channel. Your have a turn left sign at the top of your brain's flow chart.
and he is the entire reason this conversation is happening right now. he sacrificed his freedom in the hope that Americans can go to the doctor again without worry. you are old and on Medicare, good for you. for the rest of us the system is trash, i got quoted $640 for a simple eye drop for my pink eye, it’s bullshit
Just goes to show the free market always finds a way...even amidst the government being obstinate. Any opinions out there how a model like this would translate to inpatient medicine (EM/HM/CCM). I am an intensivist and have been following Dr. Smith since I first heard about his model via Dr. Michel Accad. I have long wondered how we could implement a model like this on a large, inpatient scale for generally non-procedural services.
I interviewed with Dr. Smith. Didn't work out but one of the best interview experiences in healthcare I've ever had.
I once tried to get a base estimate from a hospital. Lady told me it was illegal to give that information. And if a hospital gives terrible care there are no repurcussions.
In Hungary, besides the government hospitals, there are many many private clinics performing modern surgeries, and having fixed price lists. On a vacation I paid about $120 for a 15-minute scalpel local anesthesia outpatient surgery, had an appointment for the next working day after I called the first time, without being an "established patient". No insurance needed, no preapprovals. US doctors first look for unrelated illnesses like cancer, then maybe a few months later they examine me for the illness in the actual symptoms. Not them at the private clinics in Hungary.
Very interesting interview, thank you both!
Awesome interview! It's an absolute tragedy that we don't have a free market competition in health care.
had 3 surgeries in 1 day at his center you pay- they cut- your done pretty simple. all my doctors are young because I'm old and they are convinced they will not make any money if they go cash only or get sued to to death if something goes wrong. also most people have been brainwashed into thinking they have to have insurance. how many times have you heard people say "it was free because insurance payed for it"?
For-profit medical has got to be reformed.
Thank you for this video!
God bless you Dr.
Lets go!! Love that you interviewed this man this is going to be one of my favorites o can tell. Everybody wants health care solutions and he is solving
a portion of it!
If bread was distributed through insurance, it would cost $50 per loaf and there'd be a waiting list. Also, the baker wouldd decide what bread you need.
I know a lot of people are complaining about healthcare and the denials and delays etc…
But I e if my main needs is that we, the patient have little to no control over anything other than paying the bill when it comes.
For example, the anesthesia for my last colonoscopy was denied and I was handed a bill for $1600.
Was there a different type of anesthesia the doctor could have used? If so, why did t the doctors office (who did the pre authorization for me) use the alternate method instead? If health insurance companies expect you to do procedures and surgery without anesthesia (considering it an optional luxury) then why was that I do not brought to my attention so I could choose not to do the procedure (since it was a screening only) so as not to get sacked with the large bill?
It’s like we’re all sitting ducks paying into a system that uses and abuses us at will.
This topic as well as re-industrializing America are top subjects in our zeitgeist.. terrifs on foreign goods means we have to produce it ourselves.. 3D printing with AI help in durable materials is a super exciting field of study.. keep up the great work..
Fantastic interview Freedom-Doctors in Sturbridge Massachusetts is attempting similar things for primary care but finding issues not being able to refer for anyone with a HMO plan… hopefully there will be more options like this in our area.
Voluntary free markets always perform best. After all, in a free market, there's nothing to preclude a charity or coop or local government from creating a community health care center. If the local people vote to tax themselves for their own local care, that's fine. Like everything, the problem occurs when it gets too big and government controls too much and then all the alternatives that keep prices down and improve progress are lost.
For instance, UHC owns the entire chain of care and has bought out most of the small clinics, pharmacies etc that compete.
Free market seems best for many things, but for the more rare conditions it seems like there would be much less incentive to research.
But it's obvious the more centrally controlled, the less quality
Well nice to know im more knowledagble than ivy leauge students, tho also kinda scary at the same time.
capitalism is not the problem, Bob! My God, how could you listen to Keith and conclude so wrongly? As Keith said, the lack of a free market is the problem! This will be my last visit to your channel. Your have a turn left sign at the top of your brain's flow chart.
17:22.....Mangione is the "SUSPECT". He is not an "ALLEGED suspect"...He is actually the suspect
and he is the entire reason this conversation is happening right now. he sacrificed his freedom in the hope that Americans can go to the doctor again without worry. you are old and on Medicare, good for you. for the rest of us the system is trash, i got quoted $640 for a simple eye drop for my pink eye, it’s bullshit
Just goes to show the free market always finds a way...even amidst the government being obstinate. Any opinions out there how a model like this would translate to inpatient medicine (EM/HM/CCM). I am an intensivist and have been following Dr. Smith since I first heard about his model via Dr. Michel Accad. I have long wondered how we could implement a model like this on a large, inpatient scale for generally non-procedural services.