Former Leaf Ryan O'Reilly Wanted a Mitch Marner to Predators Trade
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- According to Nick Kypreos in the Toronto Star, Ryan O'Reilly approached Nashville Predators GM Barry Trotz about trading with the Toronto Maple Leafs to acquire Mitch Marner. But would that have made sense for either team?
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Marner will walk as a UFA
I'd rather Marner walk then to pay him 11+ million again.
8 X 10 mil is more than fair
For sure Marner won't do the Leafs a favor. That's why the Leafs should try to sign him to a contract and then trade him for assets.
@EA-hs9xp There is absolutely no reason why Mitch would sign 8x10 when he could just wait and get more next FA.
As we already know, all he cares about is money.
@EA-hs9xp naw not even too many players are far better making between 8 and 9.5. If not better, slightly worse and not worth the difference
its crazy to think anybody will bail the leafs out of this the smart thing for the org to do is bite the bullet now your gonna have the same situation next year
Only real Maple Leafs fans want Marner traded. The Marner fanboys would rather him stay than win.
Teams that have 10+ mil in cap and are in playoff bubble. (Idk if they got RFAs to sign) LA, SEA, CAR, UTA, DET, BUF. again if they got rfas to sign obviously take them off this list
Jets
Sorry but this list is pointless! Leafs are obviously wanting roster players back and any player in that trade comes off another teams cap
@crxcked1790 jets only got 6 mil in cap space not 10 mil like i said
How has he said all this yet not connected the dots of the reality that a guy in his last year, with a no trade, wanting the bag isn't worth everything you think he is? Leaf fans need to move into the real world! Your not getting this haul and cap space for a guy you can't resign!
@@abdouldmml if they did that they'd realize they paid double what Willie is worth
It will all go one of two ways. Team changes and coaching change actually do make a difference, we have a strong year and play hockey beyond round 2. In this case, marner gets an extension. Or if injuries and the same old flaws persists through the season, this team must must MUST move marner otherwise losing him for nothing (or extending the insanity) makes no sense
They CAN'T just move Marner. He would have to be willing to be traded and from what I've heard, from real sources, he's not willing to do that. If they don't want him, which would be stupid, they'll have to wait until he becomes a UFA. The only ones that want a trade are the clown "fans" that know little time nothing about the game. They should have got rid of Nylander when they had the chance, but watching Marner leave is NOT the answer.
@@jeffreycairns767 true he earned the no move. I’m just saying leafs at least need to try, which it sounds like they’ve had conversations both ways
@@ericwilliams1845 I'm hoping that the coaching will make a difference, although I don't know what kind of "behind the doors" coach Brube is. I guess we'll find out, but Keefe was not a good NHL coach.
@@jeffreycairns767 I think we all hope that and would love for it to work with this core just to validate everything. Sadly I don’t know that it will and for me mismanaging that is unacceptable
@ericwilliams1845 Say its unexceptable means nothing. We've had better teams in the past yet still haven't even made the finals. The biggest thing to remember is, it's a business and nothing more. Guys like Matthews and Marner aren't paid their salaries because they're some of the best players, they're paid well because they sell. Tickets, jerseys, etc. With the Leafs being the biggest fanbase, they sell ALOT of merchandise because of guys like this. I get that it's not fair to us fans but again, it's a business. If you and everybody you've ever known we're to suddenly stop supporting the team, it would make literally zero difference. They'll always be someone to take your place. That's what the owners count on. It's also not fair what Bettman has done to ruin the league in many ways but it's a business. Nothing more to them
Marner will hit free agency next summer and Toronto will get nothing. Gonna be awesome.
They will get Cap space at least, but I still think he signs an extension!
I'm a huge leafs fan, but I'm genuinely hoping he walks for nothing. The way the fans treat that poor guy is disgusting
@@ferguspark3290 your taking probably 10% of Leafs fans and when you got the most fans in the league u gonna get some idiots, I personally know 10 people who are mad Marner fans and will cry if he leaves not just because they bought every Leafs Jersey H&A and alternate with Marners name on in last 5 years! Personally one of the core 4 needs to go, but I’d prefer JT or Willie to leave over Mitch, as Marner is a better Penalty Killer!
@Woody13ify Tavares will be done at the end of this coming season. Unfortunately, just about everybody that's paid highly has a NTC/NMC. The biggest mistake was re-signing Nylander to a ridiculous contract because of 1 good year, which just happened to be his contract year. After the contract was signed, he dropped dramatically in performance, just like I expected and said would happen. Far too many fought me on it but I was right, as usual.
@@Woody13ify The 10 percent are the ones that want him gone.
Here was an interesting point brought up here in Tampa. Someone mentioned the possibility of trading for Marner. This was AFTER the Sergachev trade and BEFORE Stammer leaving. When we were asked...would you rather have Guentzel at 9-10 mil/yr or Marner in a trade? It was Guentzel HANDS DOWN. Basically because of what you would have to give up to get Marner. We got Guentzel AND Connor Geekie! Funny how everyone in Tampa is so mad at losing Stammer, we forget what we actually got in return! Besides younger and cap flexibility! JBB is getting ROASTED here (Tampa) because he let Stamkos go. He did a FANTASTIC job at making the Lightning a contender for the FUTURE. Legacy contracts KILL a team's future. Ask Pittsburgh. Hows that Sid/Letang/Karlsson/Malkin thing working out for ya?
The Lightning aren't a contender they are the new first-round chokers
@@FR-099 I can’t really hear you with my 2 Stanley cup rings plugging my ears
first you have to account for the 12 mill in buyouts and retained salary for Duchene and the 3 other players.... if CF can be believed then that drops salaries aval down to approx 76 for Nashville, unless Toronto wants to retain $$ owed???
Clayton Keller for Marner is horrrrible! Utah would be insane!
Karlsson and shea theadore for Marner. Big defensive upgrade and Karlsson will help on offense end.
That's funny, especially when the rumours circulating Ryan's departure were mainly around Marner the core and how Keefe coached.
Now, he wants him as a teammate. Yeah, I don't think so.
If Nashville wanted him so bad they would have pushed to get him.
There is one of two realities that's are going to happen.
1) 99% Toronto resigns him to a 5 to 8 year at 12.5 mill plus.
2)1% he walks, as a UFA.
Letting a player of Marners calibre during regular season walk for nothing is an organization changing and defining blunder. Might as well sell the team to new ownership as no one in the league will ever take the MLSE brass seriously again in any future dealings.
I am almost sure the 1% will come to reality...
@@chrisbee9643I would rather him walk with Taveras to free up cap space, but knowing Toronto's brass they will reup him or both to save face if they can't get a block buster deal done after January.
@@PeterCPRail8748 that would be the worst case to me.
ROR leaving was more based on Keefe, not the players.
Maybe how the team treats the core over others
They could turn back time and draft Hanifin like Babcock wanted instead of Marner. 🤷♂️
That's just stupid. Hanifin is half the player Marner is.
So what is your point
Yea Jesse, you're right, but I at least wanna they actually tried 😢
Comes down to Mitch having a contract you can't trade.. so now you have to play out the yr and let that contract expire
after Reinhart getting that deal I don’t see how you can pay marner a number he's asking for.
Barry Trotz wants to build a playoff winner. No way he would touch Marner.
Uh.... has anyone thought to mention to Jesse that cap space could be traded BACK to the Leafs? Like, it seems like his lightbulb isnt working and he didnt realize this
Blake-tastic once again Jessie. I agree. Mitch will be in blue n white at start of season. But, its a long season, something like 82 games. A lot of games! That's a lot of player stories, and maybe some player disappointments and maybe some player injuries and maybe come spring maybe someone needs to aquire playmaker for a run. Just sayin'. I don't think Mitch dances in blue and white post season 2025.
Let’s hope Leaf management doesn’t trade Marner for another assignment missing player .
As an Arizona/Utah fan, I don't want to trade for Marner tbh. Keller's a core leader on the team. I don't think we disrupt the core that has been improving year-to-year to trade for Marner, who I don't view as a really outspoken leader or anything of the sort. Might be an upgrade in points, but seems like a downgrade in many other areas.
So the league is colluding against the Leafs to make them keep Marner lol
Marner doesn't care about winning as much as he cares about money.
He will walk in FA and take the biggest contract.
Even if he accepts a trade, he won't extend unless it's for an egregious amount, so nobody is gonna trade for him, and Leafs will lose him for nothing.
A good marner to Nashville trade existed when we didn’t know where Nashville wanted to plant their flag in net. Once they signed Saros, a marner to nash was done
Or is it? Nash has a very good young goalie to replace Saros, and a line of Marss/Stamkos/Marner would be insane... Its a lot less likely now after the first day of free agency, but it is possible
Make O’reilley the GM
What verifiable O'Reilly quotes do we actually have on record, as opposed to all this unverified "I heard such-n-such" nonsense? We have Marner, on record, saying I'm looking forward to playing for Berube, and Berube, on record, saying he's looking forward to coaching Marner, and the agent, on record, saying that waiving the NMC is a non-starter. And we have zero, I repeat ZERO, indication that's about to change. But hey, there's yet another column to write, or podcast to make, and that's not going to get clicks ... and then it's get in line for the insatiable, view-hungry, feeders at the cyber trough.
I guess that puts an end to the rumors that he left the leafs because Marner was a dressing room cancer
Damn, great point!
Yup. The BS the media spreads is unbelievable.
Not a locker room one. A key playoff moment performer one. Took the money. Take the blame. I’d rather have Marchessault now at that money and have had enough to also get Zadorov
@WillPe8 He leads the team in playoff points since 2017. What don't people get?
Mathews is the cancer, look at how they play without him.
If u wanna talk trade it will be Robertson
HUGE trade talk between teams. Marner, Kampe Liljegren Robertson to Pittsburg for Crosby + 2 players
Crosby is 37 this year. You want a player that's going to be 37 when the season starts? Seriously- even if it is Sidney Crosby? Regardless of what you think of Marner, he's only 27, I believe.
Send Mitch to Islanders as Lou likes the player or maybe to Pens for Sid
Marner has to accept the trade you muppet. Why would he want to go to either place.
That would be very disrespectful to Crosby's legacy to send him on a team like the Maple Leafs. I don't think that's going to happen
Filip Forsberg 1:1 Mitch Marner?
Toronto should not expect to win a Mitch Marner trade. Mitch gets to choose where he wants to go and if it's to Nashville, expect a package of Nyquist, Glass, Askarov a couple of picks for Mitch 50% retained.
Utah also isn't giving up their best player on a team friendly contract for Marner. The most Toronto would be able to pry out of them is Hayton, one of their goalies and a prospect, while still retaining on Mitch.
It's either that, or having him walk as a UFA.
He'll walk as a UFA, and the team will go down hill from there
@@jeffreycairns767 with mitch gone leafs will be better in the long run.
@pccougar895 How??? Nobody is knocking down the door to play in Toronto, especially not top tier guys. Many have left though. It amazes me at how little people realize what Marner does for this team. Tavares or Nylander I can definitely see, but not Marner.
@@jeffreycairns767 7 years No results. Time to make a change. The team will survive win or lose. They are the most valuable team in the league.
@pccougar895 Being the most valuable means nothing. Tavares' contract ends the same time as Marners. We'll see how it goes. The funniest part is, the same morons that want Marner gone are the same morons that will complain about him being gone when the team is nowhere near as good. Look at all the idiots that had ALOT to say about Sammy, only to change their tunes completely, yet claim they knew he had it the whole time. Same with the Nylander signing. Everybody jumped all over me when I said it was a bad idea and that they should trade him. Everybody loved the new contract, until everything I said would happen actually did. Then Everybody acts like they knew it all along and that I was the only one that loved the contract. People are clearly stupid and clueless. This situation is no different. Marner leaving would be a HUGE mistake.
I wouldn’t have mind a Marner for Scissons, a prospect and some picks. Remember the biggest asset of a Marner trade is the cap space
Cap space doesn’t mean anything when there’s no one left to sign.
@@__._._-_._.__ oh I meant if we were going to do this before free agency
In the Leafs playoff culture - players like Marner & Matthews & Kadri are/were proven playoff disappointments. However, Leafs become playoff performers after they leave Toronto when they land in a successful playoff performing culture. A disappointing player like Kessel - after he leaves Toronto - can become a multiple Stanley Cup Champion. If Marner does stay with Toronto - the Leafs can be grateful for more regular season successes. Not all teams get that. 😀
I feel like Canadian fans tend not to appreciate this kind of mindset
@@patrickgoulet8170 There are a lot of teams that don’t make the playoffs. Marner’s good regular season play has helped the Leafs in many seasons. He just doesn’t know how to thrive with playoff officiating. 😀
@@jimlangdon1947 Yet still leads the team in playoff points since 2017.
@@jeffreycairns767 Mitch screwed up his back checking assignment Game 7 OT - allowing Pasta to score eliminating the Leafs this playoffs. Mitch gets paid over $10 Million to make a positive impact - yet his playoffs are the opposite. Hope Mitch goes to Vegas just to finally end all of his playoff disappointments. 😀
@@jimlangdon1947 So you're trying to blame 1 player for the lack of success of the entire team? It amazes me that some of you are able to walk up right. You're absolutely clueless
Why would Marner NOT want to play for Canada's Team?????/
can anyone say tampering
Marner needs to be traded. Bringing back the same core 4 who have been a complete failure in the playoffs 8 years straight!
I like to repeat stuff I heard too
Marner is the most overpayed player in NHL
No, that'll be Nylander for the next 8 years
I hated playing in Tor, the players are too soft. Go get Marner! Rofl.
Keller for marner 1 for 1 is fair because of the cap space - and what you can do with it - I’d live happily with that
Me too, I’m not sure Utah would want to. But I like it.
Why would utah swap a guy on $7m for a guy who will instantly need signing for double but only brings 20 points more at best! I'd personally say playing for toronto over arizona probably gives him those points
This is the way.
Marners hit 90 pts 3 times, Keller has never and is not as good as Marner yes he’s younger but only by 2 years! Leafs say no to a 1 for 1 they would want a sweetener 😏
@@Woody13ify Keller has 3 more seasons left on his nmc :) contract, that's a value, no sweetener.
Foresberg, Askarov and a 1st for Marner signed.
The real offer would've been like Askarov, Glass, and a 1st or something.
So nice to know the Preds aren’t morons
Getting pretty warm here in western WA. Not sure how that relates to the temp. in Toronto but I bet that beard is getting pretty uncomfortable.
Shave it now! Please.
CeleBronny!!
Man I really hope something ends up happening here with Mitch. The convo Adam had on the pod yesterday about how they'll be able to find goals elsewhere this year... not much chance Auston once again gets 70, no Bert etc I just don't see it, nor do I think it matters.
Because this group with this cap structure does not work in the playoffs. That exact same feeling is going to crawl back in next year in the first round and they just won't have enough in them. No playoffs have shown me just how far away we actually are than 2024
I'm finding it very hard to get excited at all about next year, I just can't believe they're running it back again lmao
It's already tiring, way too tiring, I know I just don't have to watch......see Steve's first book.
The value in trading Marner would be the cap space, drafts picks and prospects. It doesn't have to be players off a teams roster.
Like how much you have to retain or the draft picks as compensation to take the contract?
@@patrickgoulet8170 , to be honest I'd look for a team that has assets that I'm interested in and the Preds aren't one of them. If the Leafs have to retain salary, then I'd take $2 million off the $10.9 million, which is very reasonable and the rest could be worked out with draft picks and prospects.
They would still need two more forwards if they move him, only 11 under contract right now.
Marner isn't moving now.. FA is over. Honestly he was just gonna be a cap dump.. maybe they'd get a mid level draft pick like a third. But now no one has cap space
LOL... he's a playoff disappointment for sure, but you got dropped on your head as a child if you think a 90+ point a year guy gets a return of a 3rd rounder
@@alexrompen805 for the 11 mil cap hit and full no move that's all he'd get at present. But he's not getting moved now that FA has past, they'll get nothing and he'll walk
@TheMTHSYoshi lol, so...yes...dropped on your head as a child.... mediocre defenceman get traded for more then that, would the Leafs have to eat a bad contract in return to go along with the deal? Probably, I'd expect a bad contract the Leafs can bury and eat the cost along with a first rounder and A+ prospect. It can slide up and down depending on an extension. Could also be roster players... if he walks for nothing then so be it, Leafs free up over 28M in cap space for next free agency
@@alexrompen805 nothing is less than a third rounder iirc
New extension for Marner with the Leafs coming soon.
I hope so
Owen Power for Mitch Marner?
I’d love that for the Leafs. Don’t think the Sabres would do it.
Don’t think Mitch would agree to go to Buffalo either
If Toronto keeps Marner, JT has to go on LTIR for the season.
It's not like the team has a choice. What exactly do people not understand? He has a NMC. He's not going anywhere
How ironic would it be if Ryan O'Reilly is part of what the Preds send to the Leafs for Marner? Lol😂
Ryan is staying in Nashville
Then he should have talked Josi to ask for a trade to TO, tho he’d have to bend Marner’s ear to give up his NTC! As well 🤔😏
It's not like a Marner trade doesn't exist at all.
Marner and a 1st for future considerations would have been perfectly fair.
Marner walks J.T takes a discount and we spread that 10M elsewhere and balance out the roster
They are not trading marner so stop with these stupid videos.
Shanahan should be fired for not moving on from Marner before his no move kicked in. I yelled and cursed that day. Such a missed opportunity that could mean no cup for another 10 years and a new rebuild.
How can so many of you be this stupid? I'm honestly asking. He's been 2nd in Leafs regular season points for all but 1 year and still leads the team in playoff points since 2017. He plays top line minutes, top PP minutes, and until recently, spent years playing top PK minutes. He's far more valuable then many give him credit for and far better then Tavares or Nylander. It makes no sense to get rid of him
Lol Keller is better than Marner
Marner isn't nor has he ever been considered for trading. Your video has zero real content. I'm so sick of hearing about a Marner trade.....it's not a reality.
It's probably the first video telling the truth, nobody taking him without some incentive.
Weird fuckin comment lmao "your vid has no content" tf?
@patrickgoulet8170 he scored 35 & 30 goals last two seasons. That's the incentive. He's a decent producer overall.
you sell Marner so short. He might just be the greatest play maker in the modern era. And its telling that one of the best Captain's in the history of the sport in Ryan wants Marner. He knows what you guys keep denying. And its also telling that Ryan never choose to stay in Toronto because he wanted out of that toxic lockerroom lead by the toxic Captain in John Tavares. Ryan could not stand his none work ethic and drifter attitude.