A quick ramble about Nightwing and "Narrative Potential"
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- This is my rambliest youtube vid of all time. Nightwing and the concept of "narrative potential" as it relates to core concepts.
I promise cooler stuff coming soon.
Yeah, Nightwing is awesome.
He's like Batman but with Superman's personality.
He's the best of both. That's why he's named Nightwing.
+Alan Ortiz ''but with Superman's personality'' NOT AT ALL!
maya Yeah, they're pretty funny a lot of the times, both have a huge sense of responsability, none of them have an ego, and they hold on to hope, unlike Batman.
+Alan Ortiz Trust me they have very little in common personality wise. Dick Grayson is a happier and friendlier than Bruce Wayne but he doesnt have much i ncommon with Clark Kent, and Nightwing's nothing like Superman. Nightwing uses Batman's methods in dealing with crime, plus unlike Batman he's willing to kill if needed. You should read some Nightwing comics. In regards to Batman: Batman himself is a beacon of hope in a very, very dark place like Gotham. Of course he holds onto hope(by this point i really doubt you have read any of his comics), he fights against metahumans whereas he's just a human being. He's not afraid to change into fight he knows he's gonna lose, so one can say he fights purely on hope. He's not as dark as people make him out to be, he has his own moral code than he doesn't dare to step over. He let the person who killed his parents live. With that said no of those characters are interesting to me. I'm more interested in someone who's willing to do what it has to be done in the name of greater good like Wonder Woman for example
maya Well, Batman doesn't have a moral code. He says that a lot. He doesn't kill because he's almost as crazy as his villains. He doesn't kill because he knows that if he does, he won't be able to stop.
Superman has crossed that line a lot, because he's not as crazy as Batman so he can control himself. He doesn't kill humans, but if Darkseid or Doomsday try to destroy Earth, well, he does what it needs to be done.
And, regards Nightwing, I haven't read a lot about him, that's true. I was basing my opinion on him from the comics he shows up (Superman comics, Batman comics, Green Arrow and others)
But I remember something that he said: "Who do I think I am? Good question. I've seen too much to be Robin, but I'm still too optimistic to be Batman. I'm Nightwing. I'm Officer Dick Grayson. I'm Barbara's boyfriend, Bruce Wayne's adopted son, and the last living member of the Amazing Flying Graysons. I'm happy."
That reminds me a lot of Superman, because he's optimistic too, and he's happy. Superman has been through a lot of things, but he's still optimistic. Bruce Wayne was traumatized as a kid, and he's not very optimistic about it, but he uses that as a weapon for good.
And, you gotta remember, the reason why he's called Nightwing, it's because of Superman.
+Alan Ortiz Oh Batman does have a moral code and priorities. Yeah he does what feels right to him but without crossing certain lines. Having his own limits and boundaries is sort of like having his own moral code. That said he has intentionally tried to kill before even post the comics code of conduct and the "no kill rule". In Final Crisis he shoot Darkseid with the intention of killing him. Yeah he doesn't kill because he doesn't want to become ''a monster'' like ''the monster'' who killed his parents but he's also willing to make exceptions. I also wouldn't say it's because he's afraid of himself, it's more of a personal choice. And yeah he's depressed, but i don't think he's as antisocial as some people might think. He has managed to build strong bounds and even some healthy relationships with people around him through the years. And he actually gets laid a lot and has mad game, but he's also very romantic and believes in true love
"He also fucks. That guy gets LAID."
I'm dying over here because it's so true!
Just don't let Zack Snyder direct a movie about him.
That's why Affleck is directing "The Batman"
Not anymore SUCKAAAAAA
...I'm masking the vacuum of sadness that is my soul at hearing he's not directing anymore with humor, just ignore me.
I want regular rambles from Mr Landis. Please give us regular rambles!
KneelBeforeZak Love the Landis rants!
Now that DC let you write Superman they should let you write Nightwing next.
+MrSecretSentai DC hates Nightwing, Didio has wanted to kill him for the past forever. So probably not.
+MrSecretSentai Love Nightwing!
Tom King's Grayson was amazing.
Max Vianna
Yeah dude, pretty much everything he drawn been amazing!!
Hey If they let Max kill him, I'd buy it.
Everything you said about Nightwing is 100% correct. You hit the nail on the head. Dick Grayson is Batman without the baggage. He's my second favorite superhero, Superman is number one. Chronicle was great. American Ultra was great. I just picked up the DVD/BluRay, it's sitting in my coat pocket as I write this. I'm enjoying your Superman miniseries. I've always believed that Superman stories are the ones that focus on the man and not the super. Can't wait to see what you do next. Good job, man!
I learned from reading that comment of yours
Napoleon Sexbomb Come on, you know you have someone read comments to you because you're illiterate.
but am i the one going around teaching people how to suck dick?
no
MAX LANDIS GOES ON RANT ABOUT NIGHTWING AND "NARRATIVE POTENTIAL"
Donnel HA!
+Uptomyknees kek la kek m8
+Uptomyknees This Nightwing description of why his character is amazing is exactly how I feel.
The reason Nightwing is so good is that he's Batman's apprentice, but is inspired by and looks up to Superman. Even the name Nightwing is Kryptonian.
Hit the nail on the head of why he's such a good character. I wish Nightwing could get more attention.
His fucking name is a sign of the middleground between Superman and Batman! Nightwing was the name of an ancient Kryptonian superhero! Dick got if from Superman!
Nightwing deserves a TV show
I actually really love these kinds of videos. Keep 'em coming.
As a fellow comic nerd, I completely agree. Nightwing is one of my favorite characters. I like the idea of a character who gets to mature from sidekick to hero in his own right, and gets to step out of the shadow of his mentor. I also like that he's essentially the big brother of the DCU. I'm not a big fan that he's now literally working for Big Brothers, but I have enjoyed his role in Batman & Robin Eternal so far.
Now I want Max to write a Nightwing script so bad.
I read Black Mirror probably 100 times, always enjoyed Grayson's time with the cowl. So much history with Bruce and Dick, it was awesome to see how broken Bruce was when he got killed in injustice
my favorite aspect about Nightwing, which you touched on, is the fact that he is the perfect mix of Superman and Batman, you take the coolest aspect of batman, his tragic past, his dark and gritty fighting style, but then you give him the kindness and boyscout nature of superman, that is who nightwing is. which is interesting when you realize that when superman lost his powers in Kandor, he donned the name Nightwing, inspired off of batman.
You have made me so incredibly happy on this day. I have always believed that Dick Grayson was the best superhero, no matter what his name is. I love his potential and your video is great for backing up my theory.
These videos are why I watch your channel - genuinely enthusiastic and knowledgeable discussion of stories.
Do more of these. I feel extremely compelled to watch this kind of thing from you.
I like when you talk about comic books and what you feel is good storytelling. Very enjoyable perspective! Totally agree!
Really hit the nail on the head concerning Dick Grayson's story potential. I would love to see the transformation of Robin to Nightwing on the screen. Even if in a flashback sort of scenario, where we are introduced to a fully actualized Nightwing with glimpses of his back story and history as the OG robin.
I really need to read more Nightwing books. And I have to say, Dick Grayson is my favorite Batman. I just wish they didn't stop the Dick/Damian Batman and Robin book with the New 52. There should've at least been a story explaining why he went back to Nightwing and maybe his struggles with being Batman. And I like your rambles. You're a great writer and do a lot of cool stuff, but I also like how passionate you are about this stuff and just talking about it.
I want every movie studios forever to just dedicate themselves to making your thought babies.
I'm more of a Todd fan due to the narrative potential of a guy who rejects batman's methods
Steve Jones Gaming Yes, wonderful idea, but I liked him better dead.
Uptomyknees understandable, especially as it did make Bruce a more focused, cautious brooder
+Uptomyknees Yeah, he was a big thin in Batman's stories while dad, though I still love him as Red Hood
+Steve Jones Gaming Todd is even better than that. He EMBRACES Batman's methods, but rejects his ideals, while retaining the same goal. He's a black mark on the House of Bat, but in a real way also fundamentally loyal to the cause.
***** I say he rejects the methods because of two things. 1: in pre-new 52, the lost years mini series it shows that he DOES have some ideals (namely crime needs to be stopped) but is basically retained to be a deadly killer and even (like Bruce) goes to several people who are considered top in their field (at least by Talia and Ra's). & 2: in Post-new 52, RH&tO's where he much like in the pre-new 52 is basically retrained but unlike in the Pre-New 52 he doesn't want to be apart of the whole war on crime he just want to do whatever he feels like using his training and is basically a mercenary.
I do not like him being the crazy basically Anti-Dick Grayson like Battle of the cowl and Batman & Robin made him post-battle of the cowl when Grayson was Batman. I like the more dogmatic and pragmatic nature of Todd being someone who took the basic ideal of Bruce's war on crime to something closer to what Bob Kane envisioned for Bruce.(Gun Wielding science hero instead of no gun using crime fighting detective)
Nightwing is basically Batman mixed with Spiderman, that's why he is the best
Max, please make a Nightwing mini-series be your follow up to American Alien!
+RED ARSE lol all the superman fans on comic book forums seem to want him to be the regular writer for Superman itself so you know what this means DEATH BATTLE who will win Landis? Nightwing or Superman fans?
Dick Grayson and Jason Todd are hands down my favorite DC characters, great rant you really hit on a lot of stuff that made me realize why i love nightwing and todd (essentially the same things only one is a badass and the other is the guy you root for). LOVE IT
Good stuff. In the best of all possible worlds, Reynard (the rogue False-Facer from the first Dixon Bludhaven run) would've been kept in play throughout. The parallel of two young strivers making a name for themselves in a city that doesn't play by the rules with which they're familiar would've been fantastic, and it would've created a bond between the two that we really don't get to see too often in superhero comics.
"Just him talking" oh so every Landis video
I love hearing your thoughts, ramble on!
Great Job!! Scott Snyder's first Batman story is Grayson in the cowl. If you haven't read The Black Mirror yet, do so, it covers a lot of the great topics you brought up regarding Grayson's personality and it casts new villains that threaten and expose Dick's specific vulnerabilities.
Was not expecting to hear a vlogbrothers reference here. That was awesome
@uptomyknees I love your comic book rants. Do more please. Also, do a video where you pitch Batman V Superman story either as a comic or movie!
I don't care what people say I love these types of ramblings that you do
This was awesome really like hearing your take and stuff
Good morning Max, Have you ever read Travis Langley's - Batman and Psychology? That author would tell you that Batman is not crazy "for the world in which he lives". He's a moral individual who fights to maintain peace in a world of flying demi-gods, elaborately dressed psychopaths, and cosmic threats. He's not mentally ill within the context his title (according to Langley's work). The book's a really deep dive, I think you'd enjoy it! Thanks Max. P.S. I'm with you on Supes. Optimistic power fantasy - easy to love. Take care.
I like your collection of gizmos in the back there, Max.
man. I really wish I could explain my love of doctor who the way you explain your love of... well basically everything. I know you are not interested in doctor who but the narrative potential there especially doctors 5 to 8 is soo good.
Now I want to read a Nightwing comic!
+Amit Moshe Oren He actually had amazing story arcs, and it can be wonderful to see him interact with other members of the justice league or his relationship with Tim Drake, who he sees like a little brother. Pre-52 were a bit better BUT N52 still had good material.
+Amit Moshe Oren Grant Morrison's Batman and Robin casts Him as THE batman with a new young robin (bruce's son). Really fantastic role reversal stuff.
+Jorge González-Páramo What's some good Nightwing book's to read cause I read the Denny Oneal and Chuck Dixon run and it was awful
***** Freefall was interesting, and if you can find it, his regular pre-new 52 series was very good. The Rebirth material seems to be good to (and they brought back the blue suit- YES!!). He also has beautiful interactions in shared arcs like No Man´s Land.
These random vids is why I'm sub. Great rant 10/10
THANK YOU!! It's like no one really gets how awesome Dick Grayson is. Especially DC Comics, lately. As a Die-Hard Nightwing fan. This was a great Ramble to Listen to. Thanks for posting it. :)
I love it when you eat/drink mid rambles.
I think the best video would be to watch you and your Dad discuss film for about 90 minutes! That, I would LOVE to see!
Colorful thoughts make are fun to connect into movies. If you get a chance to pass this along to Dahlquist, I'm looking to pitch a Dubstep Guns movie and would like to know his thoughts. Keep it fun!
Now that your Superman run is done (?), are we going to get to see a Max Landis Nightwing arc in Rebirth sometime? I'm in.
Watched this while eating an egg so I feel it connected more.
and why couldn't this guy make BvS?
+angrybrony Yeah!! I was thinking the same thing!
+angrybrony he says in a comment above he doesn't pursue comic book movies jobs. Probably because he is more interested in writing stuff he has more control over.
Maxime Teppe aww that's a sham.
He at least does some comic books. Most recently he did Superman: American Alien, and that was a damn great run.
Love all of your videos, pitches and ideas, Max. Love the straightforward approach you take to describing the filmmaking and screenwriting process.
This video was made a day after my birthday.
That's it... all I wanted to say...
Have a nice day :)
P.S. if I ever make it into the industry I would love to work with you :)
I love the way you (quite literally, in this video) chew the scenery.
In Wrestling isn't Wrestling you have the beer, in Death of Superman you have the booze, in the pitch for Death and Return you have the water, which even gets a little word that pops up. And here you have your egg.
I know that's like a tiny thing but
i like it
+Connor Cardinale Okay I've come back to this and now I get why I like it. It's the same reason why you give characters props or things to just dick around with because it 1: Contextualizes how their mind works and how they go about doing things (haphazardly spilling the water to cut the gin? bourbon? whatever it was in Death and Return to show how exasperated you were and to prepare for the line of "Superman's not dead?") 2: Makes them seem human because, hey, I'm a human and I eat eggs too. and 3: Gives you a sense that they have life and interests beyond the current scene. Your whole internet persona is based on the fact that you're just an over-expressive guy who likes to do cool stuff. Even when you're just promoting something, just doing something as simple as sharing a link, you have to be Max Landis about it because there is no off switch on your personality. Because you make the choice to show us that you're eating eggs it's just a way to further express Max Landis. You like ketchup on your eggs. That's a tiny detail but it makes your character more rich. You're such an honest and clear person that you make the choice when you're shooting and editing stuff to include scenes of you just doing normal people stuff rather than cutting it out. That choice is what makes Max Landis Max Landis.
that or i'm just reading in to a bunch of coincidences because it's 5am and i'm watching youtube plsdon'tthinki'mweird
You need to do more of this Rants/rambles Max, especially on Comic Book's, they're great to listen to :D
I've always loved Nightwing, he's been my favorite DC character since I first saw him in the Batman Animated Series! However I've also always loved Spider-man because I can relate to him a lot more, while Nightwing was always the guy I wanted to be, which is why I love the character so much because he's fucking rad dude, who has a thing for red heads which gives him a plus!.
As a side note coming from the first half of the video, and from what I've observed of the characters and villains associated with Batman, not only do things like bats, clowns like the joker, and the riddler hold a loose tie through the obsession and mental illness, but to pin it down more closely, they seem to be associated with obsession from fear. Fear of bats, fear of clowns, fear of the unknown (as observed from the lens of Bruce), a lot of the motifs and ideas that are touched on through the story of Batman are rooted in fear.
Bare in mind of course, I'm not completely up on my Batman/DC comics lore, as I haven't quite gotten into either yet, but from my second-hand exposure to these stories, I've been able to make this small connection.
And sorry of course if I'm rambling, just thought I'd get these ideas out.
QuixoticFiction Shane surprised you didn't mention Scarecrow, his whole thing is literally fear itself.
ReplacedByDrumbot Yeah, that definitely is fitting, though as I said I'm not that well versed in Batman.
That's why I really like Batman Begins, because it really focused on that theme.
The thing that I'd like to see for Nightwingnis Grayson leavinging Batman and Superman finding him and giving him inspiration for the idea of Nightwing is a thing that should be adapted to a film.
Will you be making another wrestling narrative on another character? I think it would be a great series done in your style!
Please write Dick Grayson. So many recent writers have just missed the allure of Nightwing entirely. Your excitement is contagious. I'm crossing my fingers to see you on Rebirth or at least sometime in the future. Go, Landis, go!
the nightwing run with Chuck dixon and Scott mcdaniel was the shit
If DC is smart to use Nightwing in the movies, they should hit you up!
Hey Max, thank you for that rumble. As you said, Nightwing is a very interesting character with a great narrative potenital.
If I may, for now I'm more interested in Green Lantern.
I know, for now Green Lantern is boring because his stories are all about the fate of the Universe, cosmic entities, etc. So for now, we can't even understand the scale of his problems.
And I think it's lame.
To me, Green Lantern has a potential for Sci-Fi stories, about alien civilisations and their development: you can have inspiration in Mass Effect, I guess.
Plus, you can see Guardians as gods guiding the galaxy to peace and order, so they have to make hard choices.
How would a Lantern react to an order he doesn't understand ?
What if the people involved are people he met and love ?
So, here it is.
Thank you for these ideas and your inspiration.
I saw that interview (it was awesome), and I was really hoping you were gonna speak more about it.
Love your videos man! Du bist genjal, weiter so!
Cool, Nightwing is my 2nd fav superhero behind Bats.
I commented on Wrestling isn’t Wrestling last night but honestly, Max. You’re too fucking smart. Like crazy fucking smart. I honestly believe if you had been the one designing the DCEU it could be a lot better than what we got. Also I’d like to add I like the way you talk to the audience like a singular person. It really makes me feel like you’re just talking to me. Anyway as I said last night hope you’re doing well.
I was telling a friend that is a huge Batman fan that if Marvel ever had an event where someone woke up and it turned out their entire world (all of Marvel) was a dream that character would be Peter Parker, anyone else would be a cheat, it would feel wrong. He is the central character. In Star Wars, even if Han is your favorite character, Luke is the central, main guy, he's who would wake up from the dream of the Star Wars universe. In DC it's a little harder to pinpoint. So I asked my friend who would wake up from the dream? He said Bruce, and that's an option, I'm not saying it's not. But to me, if it were Bruce, he would wake up in an insane asylum in a straight jacket. I really think the only good answers are Clark Kent and Dick Grayson. Clark could wake up on a farm in Kansas, at the end of some huge DC event, and it would be a pretty satisfying ending. But Dick might be a better pick, in part because of his close relation to this driven force of nature, Batman, combined with his awe for Superman and all the fantastical things that happen around him. For example, Bruce hears someone say that they are a Martian and goes ok, or somehow has already deduced this bit of knowledge. But Dick hears this and is the guy who says, "Wait, what, you're going to need to explain this for me!" It seems that Dick is very much our best window into this crazy, strange, fantastical universe. Anyway, that's just my two cents.
Now that DC/Warner Bros announced a Nightwing solo movie, hopefully they are aware of your thoughts and take those into consideration to make a good Nightwing film
Yaaaay I too like Nightwing... Which I weird because I am not a big Batman fan. Now that Bats is all grumpy, Nightwing is like a throwback to the Neal Adams era when Bats was more mentally balanced. And that's cool.
My personal favourite is Damian Wayne, because Grant Morrison is a genius, and then Dick is a close second. The Batman & Robin arc with Dick and Damian was fantastic and I loved seeing Damian grow as a character under Dicks tutelage. I personally think Bruce is a less interesting character than the rest of his supporting cast and is now only made interesting by the multiverse variations of the character.
+Michael Lyle we were the best Richard :(
Very interested in checking out that Bludhaven arc. Were you referring to Chuck Dixon's run? Thanks in advance.
Also, I remember a couple years ago you were wavering between doing Wrestling isn't Wrestling, and a Spider-Man video, done in the same format. Obviously you went with the former (which was awesome), but is the latter still on the table? Would love to see something like that.
Finally someone that gets it. and The fact that DC keeps dropping the ball on Nightwing astounds me man. At least Grayson is good.
hah gotta go read a nightwing comic what would you suggest
Love the rambles!
Was gonna write a comment about why nightwing is my favourite dc hero but as the video went on you just covered all the bases
Fucking spot-on commentary. You express a lot of the same views that a lot of comic book fans have with regards to Dick Grayson. Nightwing is a sadly under-utilized character because sure, he's very prevalent in comics, but there just isn't enough done with him outside of that medium.
i love nightwing and completely agree.. ramble are great
+Uptomyknees i wonder what do you think about the grant morrison run of the doom patrol. because he took these characters and concept...and turned them into something brillant
Man I really enjoyed this, I also went back to watch your old video about the Robins. Do you think you'd ever do a small update on that video by the way? I saw it ended at Tim Drake and didn't talk about Damian Wayne.
i start chuckling every time i remember your drunk robin video. "i'm leaving! this is a poorly written story-line!"
Those are all very similar to my reasons for loving Batman Beyond.
Nightwing. HBO mini series. Connected to Batfleck. That's all I want lol
Spider-man's his favorite? Ok now I definitely like this guy.
You just totally sold me on Nightwing.
Also Batman does have sex, with Catwoman.
+Intertayne Not the same as the Starfire fun Dick has. Bruce does it with a human, dick gets the Alien girl :)
I'd much rather have Catwoman. The latex bodysuit and whatnot.
+Intertayne Well, Dick also has Batgirl for that
Dick's one of DC's biggest horndogs, along with one of his best friends, Roy Harper. It's essentially Tony Stark fandom.
+Danny Parray Wally was also a big horndog too. Before he started dating Linda, that is. I think it's just their generation.
My take is that I feel like Nightwing is full of narrative potential because he is Batman who is allowed to enjoy himself. Batman SHOULD be living everyone's dream life. He's rich. He's good looking. He's accomplished. He's smart. He's healthy. He's adventurous. Women want to be with him. He has NO faults, except that he is mentally ill and thusly cannot enjoy ANY of it. That's the grand tragedy of the character. So, because he's mentally ill, when he sees Dick's parents get murdered, he says "AH! I know how to deal with this! I figured out how to get past this, and now I have to show this kid! You just dress up like a monster and beat people up to eternally punish yourself! That's the fix!" But Batman doesn't realize that it's not really a fix at all, and just because it "worked" for him doesn't mean it will work for Dick. So Dick got to grow up with Alfred and the Titans and he grew to LOVE the life of the superhero. He enjoys it the way the audience wishes they could. That's the conflict between Batman and Robin/Nightwing. Bruce and Dick like each other and know each other line nobody else, but Bruce can't understand why Dick doesn't take "the mission" more seriously and Dick doesn't understand why Bruce can't every actually move on from his parent's death.
Your favorite character is Nightwing? That's awesome, mine too. It's cool when the people you admire share your favorites
i love this video and you for making it
The thing with Dick Grayson and what makes him my favorite Batman character(besides Batman) is that he's more relatable than any other character ever created. It's like the a comic book version of "The Truman show". We saw him since he was a kid in the flying Graysons. Going thru the tragedy of losing a family and being fostered by Bruce. Slowly becoming the sidekick then his own superhero then becoming the new Batman. Which is equivalent to a professional athlete or musician getting inducted into the hall of fame. Dick has been the highest of highs and the lowest of lows. And we stayed with him cause we want him to get Barbara and we want him to be settled in but at the same time for our own selfish reasons we want him in peril cause we want him to continue to kick ass. The reader can replace Dick Grayson with his own name and live thru these great stories. Unlike Batman where a 12 year old can aspire to be Batman when he grows up but once he reaches adulthood he'd lose interest. Anyone can aspire to be Dick Grayson cause he's ageless. Lived thru every era with different age groups. Unlike some like Jason Todd, Tim Drake or Damien Wayne. Who just feel retreads of Dick Grayson stories. Dick can get away with being whiny cause he's the original. But when someone else does it. It's like "what gives you the right?".
That being said. I wish there's a Nightwing series done on either Netflix or FX. We need that story retold on live action media.
Hollyshit is this Max's own youtube channel? Subscribed.
Have you tried pitching a Nightwing solo film at WB?
If not and you don't plan to do so, could you write up a rough outline of how you would make such a film? For funsies?
Not sure if anyone's mentioned this already, but his appearance in Geoff Johns' run on Teen Titans when he basically swoops in out of nowhere and breaks up a stupid argument turned superbrawl between the Justice League and the Titans is great. And it works because we immediately key in on the fact that he's exactly the right person to do it, because he's fucking Nightwing; he's walked in both worlds - the League and the Titans, hero and sidekick - and everyone on both sides of the argument knows, loves and respects him as a friend/colleague/whatever.
Max, have you read the new grayson comicbooks, they are top nocth. Great video Man
Great video Max! Would you ever do a video explaining why Spider man is your favorite hero? - Aaron
Might sound odd but I would love to hear your thoughts on the Marvel character Cyclops. He was seen for decades as a bland cookie cutter hero. Superman mentality but with a far more narrow range of abilities, and has also been in a team for entire superhero "career", having to deal with unstable assholes like Wolverine gunning for his girl, her eventual death, living up to the legacy of the mutant equivalent of MLK/Gandhi in Professor Xavier, and much much more. I've never really like the character until very recently (similarly to Superman) when I was mature enough to approach characters from a different angle.
So... is Nightwing the Daniel Bryan of DC Comics or is Daniel Bryan the Nightwing of WWE?
I think a very interesting character with a lot of story potential in any and every genre is Wolverine.
Action, adventure, sci-fi, mystery, noir, thriller, horror, comedy, romance the guy flows easily into all of them.
Unfortunately a lot of writers tend to stick within a particular narrative, the cliche beer drinking trash talking "berserker" who either gets his ass handed to him to so the writers can remind you he has a healing factor...(though he I supposed to be a highly skilled fighter so maybe he likes the punishment)...or as stated before as a highly skilled fighter who is an unmatched master ninja/samurai.
He is my favorite character who I feel gets short changes by writers who lack the imagination to truly utilize his potential.
Dick Grayson as Batman is a thousand time more interesting than the other dude. Also, his interaction with Damian... great !
Now that DC has "announced" a Nightwing film, they need to get Max on the phone RIGHT NOW and treat whatever script he writes as gospel!
Robin (Grayson, Drake, doesn't really matter) is my favourite superhero next to Cyclops.
Who LIKES Cyclops!? What is it about him that you enjoy? Because I've always found Cyke QUITE boring.
He's a strong member of the X-Men and while his personality is stoic, I admire how he refuses to stop fighting till his last breath. Also I think his design is cool.
LyleVSXyle Fair enough.
Love Cyclops. He's my favorite X-man! Screw Wolverine that hypocrite !! Cyclops was Right!!!
Thank god for some cyclops love lol. Thought I was the only one
Don't worry about the rambling. Seriously dude. You need to do a podcast or something. Your rants about this kind of random shit is the reason I and I'm sure many others, subscribe to this channel in the first place. I'm not as obsessive as you are so I don't think about this stuff on my own but I enjoy listening to you talk about this stuff because I get to learn about it.
Now I'm curious. . . what Max would you say is the best run of Nightwing to get into for an outsider like myself?
The Dick Bats story line was so good. I wish DC would have kept up with it for a little longer. What do you think of Jim Gordon being Batman now?
Could you guys just imagine a Nightwing film starring Garret Hedlund, and written by Max.
I just realized Landis could totally play a really great Riddler.