For a band, and a great one at that, to lose their iconic lead singer and THEN go on to become one of the greatest bands of an entire era is just simply divine. And this song was the masterpiece of that transition. Amazingly impressive, and thank you.
PRESSUREWORKS Origninally yes, as is well known. But then thru this rendition they made it an iconic New Order song; hence me using the word “transition”.
I was at this gig. Aged 19 and quite emotional to watch after all these years. At the end the crowd were calling for more and Tony Wilson who was one of the camera men turned to the crowd and said there is no more. They didn't play any songs they had released as Joy Division that night.
Me too - as I remember it(?), there were 2 cameras, either side of the stage, Tony W on one of them. NO came on really late, by which time the atmosphere was electric. Just over 30 minutes, but lives long in the memory....I have always hoped that the whole show would be released, whatever the quality.....
I remember seeing one of their first gigs at the Hacienda. Bernard spent the first part of the set with his back to the audience, even singing like this. Then he used a xylophone and shortly after it all ended. It was a new, authentic, beginning.
In 1988, I bought the 1987 New Order Substance album on cassette. I loved Blue Monday, so I had to have this tape. After pressing play on my brand new tape, it started with Ceremony. (I was patient, and willing to wait until the 4th track to Blue Monday. At the time, I didn't know anything about the band, I didn't know of Joy Division, or the collection of amazing albums before hand. It was the very first time I heard this song, and I remember it put me in some sort of deep dark trance. Here we are 35 years later, and I still love the song. It was one of those songs that helped me cope with all kinds of loss, especially losing loved relationships.
I cannot somewhat wonder what Bernard was feeling towards the end as he finished the lyrics and as he looks up thinking with that look on his face. Such a beautiful and sad song all at once, just a mixed emotions. Joy Division/New Order is the greatest bands ever. R.I.P Ian😔🎤🎼
Hopefully they release more 1980-81 era footage, this is great! Not that I dislike any of their later stuff but this period in the band has always seemed mysterious and intriguing to me
I think it's more the recording tools in the 80's and mixing vs the bands performance. On the contrary the drummer was tight and while the vocals were virtually indiscernible words even for this song Overall well done for a beginning band
@@SRX04 New Order is a sloppy mess live. They have admitted so in lots of interviews. There was one instance when the samplers crashed and they couldn't trigger things. They brought several of them on tour after that. Things were never as tight no matter how well Morris played. I still love their mostly live sets however. Listen at 3:56 also. Cheers!
Shame the vocal isn't loud enough. Lovely performance, nonetheless. This is my all-time number one Joy Division/New Order song, so I was really stoked to see this unseen footage.
Insane how far they came so quickly after Ian died. Most bands would simply get another singer. Not this lot. Doing it the hard way was what made them so unique.
Beautiful. Definitely one of the best New Order/Joy Division songs. It’d be marvelous to meet someone whom loves this song as much as I do. Thank you for sharing! :)
Im a huge Joy Division fan. When I first heard this song it became one of my absolute favorite songs. I love hearing covers of it but New Order will always be the one to compare to. Im seriously a huge fanatic of this song, cant express it enough
This song is my absolute favorite of all time. I always get a lump in my throat when I hear Ceremony. It doesn't matter which JD/NO version either, although I prefer the NO Substance version.
I adore New Order / Joy Division & was heartbroke when Ian died (I was 13 years old!) but they went on to become one of the best British bands ever...yet ... They signed their recording contract in BLOOD! (???)
This is why events unnerve me They find it all, a different story Notice whom for wheels are turning Turn again and turn towards this time All she asks is the strength to hold me Then again the same old story World will travel, oh so quickly Travel first and lean towards this time Oh, I'll break them down, no mercy shown Heaven knows, it's got to be this time Watching her, these things she said The times she cried Too frail to wake this time Oh I'll break them down, no mercy shown Heaven knows, it's got to be this time Avenues all lined with trees Picture me and then you start watching Watching forever Forever Watching love grow, forever Letting me know, forever
I've loved them since 1988. Buying Substance 1987 on vinyl and seeing the video for True Faith on Hit Video USA (Anyone remember that music channel?) as a teenager and going forward. What a back catalog to dig into for the new generation of kids today! Well, the ones who like quality music.
Recuerdo que la primera vez que sentí algún tipo de tristeza profunda, escuché esta canción y sentí que alguien más estuvo en las mismas condiciones, alguna vez; ya no estaba solo. Gracias por todo. Joy Division Forever!
This has been my No 1 song since the mid 80s. Love it. So much talent from Manchester. Lucky enough to be in the middle of it all. The Hacienda, the Boardwalk,
few lads went to this we.d been to everton away..always tasty..300 plus crew..on the service from oxford road this was blasting out of a sony ...top day wish id gone to see them that night
Not even a year after Ian lost his battle to presumably Bipolar along with his heartbreaking seizures of course. All Ian wanted was peace, and he couldn’t find enough in this world.
This is what Peter Hook wanted, also why he left New Order. He wanted to pay tribute to the Joy Division songs that were a part of the history ofJoy Division/New Order. Peter was really close with Ian Curtis, he felt that Ian would have wanted his songs/music to live on, the other members of New Order were uncomfortable with that. In the end Peter left New Order in 2006, when the others wouldn't agree to play Joy Division songs in their re union tour. Check out Peter Hook & The Light, he put together a great band that plays everything he was involved with writing. All the Joy Division, New Order (pre 2006) and all his new work. The best shows I have seen pre PXSIEzzzzsRER-vid. Always at a good price, at a venue with a max of 500 people. Mr Hook puts on a great show, well worth every penny if you're a fan
I was at this gig, never new there was footage, I have a bootleg audio copy of the show however. It was awesome, not so long after Ian's death and New Order were a fragile thing of beauty finding their way. Made me feel quite emotional as I have never forgotten the impression it made, in fact I went into Manchester and bought a bass not long afterwards, still can't play the bloody thing. Stood next to Hooky and Tony Wilson at the bar afterwards thinking this is the life!! Still enjoy watching Peter Hook and the light, seen them 4 or 5 times in the past few years, they are superb, might see New Order in the summer, have a feeling they will be disappointing though.
@@leafsmithleafsmith691 you guys are so lucky ... I have just seen them at the Hacienda much later ... and several times in the last 12 years at various gigs, but gigs like this ...
Lyrics This is why events unnerve me They find it all, a different story Notice whom for wheels are turning Turn again and turn towards this time All she asks the strength to hold me Then again the same old story Word will travel, oh so quickly Travel first and lean towards this time Oh, I'll break them all, no mercy shown Heaven knows, it's got to be this time Watching her, these things she said The times she cried Too frail to wake this time Oh, I'll break them down, no mercy shown Heaven knows, it's got to be this time Avenues all lined with trees Picture me and then you start watching Watching forever Forever, watching love grow Forever, letting me know Forever
@@RiotNrrrdUTube Maybe you are correct. But I saw Joy Division severaL times, the first supporting Buzzcocks at The Apollo and then at Factory 2 and I think the Mayflower but don't remember exactly., was queuing for a John Peel Roadshow ticket with Buzzcocks headlining when a friend told me Ian Curtis was dead. Some time later (I was a 17 year old) rumours about Joy Division playing again started. I went to the Comanche gig and believed that there had been one public practice gig. I only found out about that after. What does it matter? Were you there at any of Joy Division's gigs, or the Comanche event?
imagine having the balls to sing this after Ian went. He wasn't technically the greatest singer but he had a unique energy and power of delivery. Fair play, New Order showed great bravery in dealing with Ian's loss.
I saw them around the same time at the Rockgarden in Middlesbrough. I was really there to see Joy Division, as I suspect many others in the audience were. It was a good gig but might have been a great one if I d had a different attitude. New Order always were a great band in their own right and their music continues to mean a lot to me
New Order's best Album, Waiting for the Sirens' Call is an album that should be on the top 100 best albums off all time, this song Ceremony was so groundbreaking at the time that it should be on top 10
This looks like it's the clip from 1982 IKON vhs release entitled A Factory Video. It was the second clip, after the homemade video for Section 25's New Horizon. I love that compilation, since I first saw it in 1991. (It has the best live rendition of In a Lonely Place as well). In all this time, I hadn't known the date and location of the live recording. So many thanks for your posting, and including that info in the title.
Nasci 5 anos depois, nem vivi essa época, mas a nostalgia bate tão forte no peito que nem consigo entender essa mistura de felicidade e saudade que sinto quando ouço essa música.
Stephen Morris's drumming is so good
he is so underrated as a drummer. amazing
I don't understand how he is hitting those other drums while hitting the hihats.
@@johnprice1773 Foot pedal, right? He's just spamming it like someone with an anxious wobble.
He's like a drum machine, so tight
@@johnprice1773 If you watch the radiohead cover of ceremony Phil Selway also kills it and you kind of see how they do it
For a band, and a great one at that, to lose their iconic lead singer and THEN go on to become one of the greatest bands of an entire era is just simply divine. And this song was the masterpiece of that transition. Amazingly impressive, and thank you.
Totally agree!!
Actually was.a Joy Division Song.
PRESSUREWORKS Origninally yes, as is well known. But then thru this rendition they made it an iconic New Order song; hence me using the word “transition”.
Gavin Halm cool thanks. Just really wanted to make sure the folks knew about Joy Division.
PRESSUREWORKS No worries!
I was at this gig. Aged 19 and quite emotional to watch after all these years. At the end the crowd were calling for more and Tony Wilson who was one of the camera men turned to the crowd and said there is no more. They didn't play any songs they had released as Joy Division that night.
Me too - as I remember it(?), there were 2 cameras, either side of the stage, Tony W on one of them. NO came on really late, by which time the atmosphere was electric. Just over 30 minutes, but lives long in the memory....I have always hoped that the whole show would be released, whatever the quality.....
I remember seeing one of their first gigs at the Hacienda. Bernard spent the first part of the set with his back to the audience, even singing like this. Then he used a xylophone and shortly after it all ended. It was a new, authentic, beginning.
In 1988, I bought the 1987 New Order Substance album on cassette. I loved Blue Monday, so I had to have this tape.
After pressing play on my brand new tape, it started with Ceremony. (I was patient, and willing to wait until the 4th track to Blue Monday.
At the time, I didn't know anything about the band, I didn't know of Joy Division, or the collection of amazing albums before hand.
It was the very first time I heard this song, and I remember it put me in some sort of deep dark trance.
Here we are 35 years later, and I still love the song. It was one of those songs that helped me cope with all kinds of loss, especially losing loved relationships.
I cannot somewhat wonder what Bernard was feeling towards the end as he finished the lyrics and as he looks up thinking with that look on his face. Such a beautiful and sad song all at once, just a mixed emotions. Joy Division/New Order is the greatest bands ever.
R.I.P Ian😔🎤🎼
Ian curtis his friend singin in the old days?
3.55 Bernard looks up to Ian , Brilliant.
Don't think us Mancs are that sentimental mate tbh. Probably thinking how the samplers have crashed. Nice thought though.
@@BurtonRdForeverwhat samplers
@@BurtonRdForever Can't speak on other peoples emotions just cause you're not sentimental doesn't mean they are not.
Hopefully they release more 1980-81 era footage, this is great! Not that I dislike any of their later stuff but this period in the band has always seemed mysterious and intriguing to me
Stay tuned 🔷
New Order will do! :)
Before the synths.
They seemed very mysterious to a 13 year old,especially when they stopped giving interviews.
Mysterious and intriguing is why we all fell in love with them..
Bernie a guitar genius and style icon all rolled into one. And a fantastic all round stage presence. A one for the loners. Those who know will know.
And we’ve been getting away with it all our lives
New Order's sloppy mess sounds better than most bands' A game.
I ❤ this comment.
I think it's more the recording tools in the 80's and mixing vs the bands performance. On the contrary the drummer was tight and while the vocals were virtually indiscernible words even for this song Overall well done for a beginning band
@@SRX04 New Order is a sloppy mess live. They have admitted so in lots of interviews. There was one instance when the samplers crashed and they couldn't trigger things. They brought several of them on tour after that. Things were never as tight no matter how well Morris played. I still love their mostly live sets however. Listen at 3:56 also. Cheers!
This sounds like a really tight performance for them, only problem is Bernard's guitar is out of tune.
Too many try hards these days who need to get a grip
My #1 favorite band of all time.
Shame the vocal isn't loud enough. Lovely performance, nonetheless. This is my all-time number one Joy Division/New Order song, so I was really stoked to see this unseen footage.
Think this is actually a Joy Division song written before Ian died. I think?
Bad PA's always ruin good performances.
That was the problem with the Joy Division recordings of this song.
The footage has been around for a long time, it first appeared on a Factory compilation video back in the late 1980's
probably mine too with Temptation right behind it
Insane how far they came so quickly after Ian died. Most bands would simply get another singer. Not this lot. Doing it the hard way was what made them so unique.
that was the deal Barney struck with the devil
Always wished there was a clean version of Ceremony with Ian's voice!! That would've been AWESOME!
Saw them a few weeks back in Leeds and still sound as good now as back then....
@justincrowe9602
New Order are old now. As if they're as good to see live in 2023 as in 1981:)
Thank God! Someone at the University had the brains to capture this session and archive it for historical purposes, it's priceless!!!
The way he sings this low like Ian makes this tribute even more powerful. Thank you for the upload.
I've noticed that but never quite put into words. He's trying to sing like Ian😭
Beautiful. Definitely one of the best New Order/Joy Division songs. It’d be marvelous to meet someone whom loves this song as much as I do. Thank you for sharing! :)
Im a huge Joy Division fan. When I first heard this song it became one of my absolute favorite songs. I love hearing covers of it but New Order will always be the one to compare to. Im seriously a huge fanatic of this song, cant express it enough
Here I am... ;)
I’ve felt this song from the very beginning.
I can’t help but turn it up and I never fail to lose myself in its sonic brilliance.
It is sublime.
That would be me then. And Pat Nevin the ex footballer. It's his intro tune on his slot on Newstalk
This song is my absolute favorite of all time. I always get a lump in my throat when I hear Ceremony. It doesn't matter which JD/NO version either, although I prefer the NO Substance version.
I love this song. Everything about this song. How it starts so simple and evolves and the way it ends so peaceful.
This is why events unnerve me... what an opening line
To move from Joy Division to New Order and play this is a big deal.
this and In A Lonely Place as the "new" group's first single, it hits me hard
@Brendan Mather that's why I said "new", not new ;-)
creekandseminole as Hooky has said, this so g was a gift from Ian so they could continue on without him.
I adore New Order / Joy Division & was heartbroke when Ian died (I was 13 years old!) but they went on to become one of the best British bands ever...yet ...
They signed their recording contract in BLOOD! (???)
This group was way ahead of their time. This song has always been one of my favorites of all time.
When they make a drum machine better than Morris,, I might buy one.
Morris IS the drum machine.
I was at this and it was very emotional beyond belief. RIP IAN.C.
I'm gutted that I wasn't around to ever see them. I saw a tribute band and that was so emotional
This is why events unnerve me
They find it all, a different story
Notice whom for wheels are turning
Turn again and turn towards this time
All she asks is the strength to hold me
Then again the same old story
World will travel, oh so quickly
Travel first and lean towards this time
Oh, I'll break them down, no mercy shown
Heaven knows, it's got to be this time
Watching her, these things she said
The times she cried
Too frail to wake this time
Oh I'll break them down, no mercy shown
Heaven knows, it's got to be this time
Avenues all lined with trees
Picture me and then you start watching
Watching forever
Forever
Watching love grow, forever
Letting me know, forever
let's this band be a life lesson it's never over until you say it is
Saw them live 1986 ..
St Petersburg Fla.. 20 rows back I compared it to sitting behind 747 jet airplane engine ..they were a force playing live
The song that made me fall in love with New Order
God, the World was a different place back then.
hmm, maybe you picked the wrong band haha
Since over 40 jears is this band a institution.Fantastic.A Legend like Queen Band.
I've loved them since 1988. Buying Substance 1987 on vinyl and seeing the video for True Faith on Hit Video USA (Anyone remember that music channel?) as a teenager and going forward. What a back catalog to dig into for the new generation of kids today! Well, the ones who like quality music.
Morris! I live for those drums and cymbals! Dude!
Recuerdo que la primera vez que sentí algún tipo de tristeza profunda, escuché esta canción y sentí que alguien más estuvo en las mismas condiciones, alguna vez; ya no estaba solo. Gracias por todo.
Joy Division Forever!
❤
Tu lo dijiste hermano!
The same way I felt the first time listening, much love from the UK👊🏼
Just bought this on vinyl… vinyl! Now I need a record player 😅
easily the Greatest band ever ..still listen to them non stop and find new favourite bits all the time
This made me cry
Same, same
I love the opening guitar, sets tone for entire song
The feel in this is so otherworldly n divine yet close to something we are all living today, one of my favorite songs ever
This has been my No 1 song since the mid 80s. Love it. So much talent from Manchester. Lucky enough to be in the middle of it all. The Hacienda, the Boardwalk,
Goosebumps from start to finish. Off the chart tremendous.
This has become my new favourite version of this song! More raw and not over produced!
I wish they would understand when they play TOGETHER they are FANTASTIC and nothing lasts forever.
Saw them at the Hacienda in 83. Very hazy night!!
wow!!
I listen to this song almost every morning. This and Temptation.
Lucky students to have New Order live at your union. Beautiful song. Some perfect imperfections while playing live. This is early New Order
A cacophony of noise and off key vocals. Love them ! Bought every one of their albums in cassette tape form ❤️
So freaking young and talented fabulously amazing 🤣🥰🤗😁😆😏
Pure Music, 👌no post-production-fancy-tricks, just Man, Machine & his talent 😊 Love this!
Stephen Morris is totally primo percussionist
One of my favorites. I heard it live for the first time earlier this month on the January 9th show in Chile. An unforgettable experience!
few lads went to this we.d been to everton away..always tasty..300 plus crew..on the service from oxford road this was blasting out of a sony ...top day wish id gone to see them that night
The first time I saw this it was on a Rockamerica video pool compilation from 1981. Raw as hell with this live mix, but that is what makes it so cool.
Not even a year after Ian lost his battle to presumably Bipolar along with his heartbreaking seizures of course.
All Ian wanted was peace, and he couldn’t find enough in this world.
This is what Peter Hook wanted, also why he left New Order. He wanted to pay tribute to the Joy Division songs that were a part of the history ofJoy Division/New Order. Peter was really close with Ian Curtis, he felt that Ian would have wanted his songs/music to live on, the other members of New Order were uncomfortable with that. In the end Peter left New Order in 2006, when the others wouldn't agree to play Joy Division songs in their re union tour.
Check out Peter Hook & The Light, he put together a great band that plays everything he was involved with writing. All the Joy Division, New Order (pre 2006) and all his new work. The best shows I have seen pre PXSIEzzzzsRER-vid. Always at a good price, at a venue with a max of 500 people.
Mr Hook puts on a great show, well worth every penny if you're a fan
I was at this gig, never new there was footage, I have a bootleg audio copy of the show however. It was awesome, not so long after Ian's death and New Order were a fragile thing of beauty finding their way. Made me feel quite emotional as I have never forgotten the impression it made, in fact I went into Manchester and bought a bass not long afterwards, still can't play the bloody thing. Stood next to Hooky and Tony Wilson at the bar afterwards thinking this is the life!!
Still enjoy watching Peter Hook and the light, seen them 4 or 5 times in the past few years, they are superb, might see New Order in the summer, have a feeling they will be disappointing though.
Where d you buy the bass in Manchester? Mamelok?
Me too,I had just started physics degree at Manchester,highlight of my first year.Brilliant gig
@@leafsmithleafsmith691 you guys are so lucky ... I have just seen them at the Hacienda much later ... and several times in the last 12 years at various gigs, but gigs like this ...
Would give my eye teeth to have been 17 on 6th Feb 1981, and living in Manchester
Yesss
Listen to Stephen, amazing.
Bernard looks very similar to Ian in the LWTUA video!
All trance and EDM music owe their sound to this band
Great song like this one so much the bass drums are awesome🔥🔥
this video was on the video compilation " fact 56 " with SECTION 25 , A CERTAIN RATIO , CABARET VOLTAIRE........
Killer performance! I lament I never went to see them perform.
Music just doesn’t have this type of feeling to it anymore. As hard as anyone could try they couldn’t match how raw the feeling this music gives
I always come back to this video
Lyrics
This is why events unnerve me
They find it all, a different story
Notice whom for wheels are turning
Turn again and turn towards this time
All she asks the strength to hold me
Then again the same old story
Word will travel, oh so quickly
Travel first and lean towards this time
Oh, I'll break them all, no mercy shown
Heaven knows, it's got to be this time
Watching her, these things she said
The times she cried
Too frail to wake this time
Oh, I'll break them down, no mercy shown
Heaven knows, it's got to be this time
Avenues all lined with trees
Picture me and then you start watching
Watching forever
Forever, watching love grow
Forever, letting me know
Forever
We need more of this.
This is the great New Order!
The first song in the Substance Album. Marked my life forever!
My first year as an LAUSD social studies/English teacher. Thanks for getting me through those early years. Cheers!
I was there! First time I saw them live. Mind you I think it was only there second gig after a low key event that wasn't very well publicised.
Not even close. It was their 16th or 17th gig. Google "New Order Water Rat" and you'll eventually find the Gigography on Google Docs that answers all.
@@RiotNrrrdUTube Maybe you are correct. But I saw Joy Division severaL times, the first supporting Buzzcocks at The Apollo and then at Factory 2 and I think the Mayflower but don't remember exactly., was queuing for a John Peel Roadshow ticket with Buzzcocks headlining when a friend told me Ian Curtis was dead. Some time later (I was a 17 year old) rumours about Joy Division playing again started. I went to the Comanche gig and believed that there had been one public practice gig. I only found out about that after. What does it matter? Were you there at any of Joy Division's gigs, or the Comanche event?
Aahhhh love this so much. This music is the backdrop to so many memories from my youth.
Fantastic, saw them around this time it was what I needed then and now
Great job lads. Bless you Ian, wish you were still singing 😊
Great vid, Ian lives on!!!
At least they managed to tune their guitars by the time I saw them in '83 (the first time they played "Love Will Tear Us Apart" again live).
I love the crazy hi hats
Audio and video are better than I expected. Great song!
That shot starting at 2:47 with The lights obscuring the face fucking hell.
I want to cuddle a girl while listening to this song forever, watching our love grow.
Just did that last night, was pretty great
I asked my girlfriend out with this song playing in the background haha
Love it. As I do all New Order from before 1987.
such great memories of growing up listening to NO late at night...thanks for this!
fantastic. Middlesbrough Rock Garden. a few weeks after release of "Ceremony".
one of the greatest songs of all time!
My favorite song, or at least top 5!
imagine having the balls to sing this after Ian went. He wasn't technically the greatest singer but he had a unique energy and power of delivery. Fair play, New Order showed great bravery in dealing with Ian's loss.
Great performance! #brazilianfans
I saw them around the same time at the Rockgarden in Middlesbrough. I was really there to see Joy Division, as I suspect many others in the audience were. It was a good gig but might have been a great one if I d had a different attitude. New Order always were a great band in their own right and their music continues to mean a lot to me
That was 11 or 18 days later, according to the Water Rat New Order Gigography (on Google Docs). They still don't know the setlist!
A timeless template of a music track.
New Order's best Album, Waiting for the Sirens' Call is an album that should be on the top 100 best albums off all time, this song Ceremony was so groundbreaking at the time that it should be on top 10
this is the first (and may well be the last because hot damn) time I've seen someone say that WFTSC is New Order's best album lol.
It’s been said that great bands make complex music look easy. I’d say even greater bands make simple music look difficult. God bless New Order
I was 12.
I never had any bands later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?
/stand by me again
What A Great debut 45 ! This live version shows a band healing and not yet 100 % confident. 😎
This looks like it's the clip from 1982 IKON vhs release entitled A Factory Video. It was the second clip, after the homemade video for Section 25's New Horizon. I love that compilation, since I first saw it in 1991. (It has the best live rendition of In a Lonely Place as well). In all this time, I hadn't known the date and location of the live recording. So many thanks for your posting, and including that info in the title.
My heart ❤️❤️
This song is the eighties to me, just slightly above “How Soon Is Now?”
THE template for indie music.
Nasci 5 anos depois, nem vivi essa época, mas a nostalgia bate tão forte no peito que nem consigo entender essa mistura de felicidade e saudade que sinto quando ouço essa música.
Wish I could have been there.
I was. Paid a quid to get in..
Época boa quando o piter hoock estava na banda bom d +