Thank you all for watching (and for all the new subscribes) It's been really fun to share my videos, talk to people about them, and of course for people to enjoy them! :) P.s. Sorry it took long to make, but my computer kept on breaking and editing this took forever, that's why there are a few mistakes here and there too. P.sss. Reforged will be out soon hopefully, and we will be all playing it in no time :) (Dota anyone? :D :D)
Blizzard did copy everything from Warhammer. They basically remade a water downed corny rated G b movie status of Warhammer. Original concept was a Warhammer game but G.W turned it down. Then they hired bad writer's to study Warhammer lore and make the Cheese that Warcraft is today.
Aye, they look Chinese as fuck. Animations aren't made by blizzard and neither are the models. I can tell this is purely outsourced and in the case of it not being, it must be a new lead animator/model designer or a new team at blizzard doing this cause this is too far outside blizzards comfort zone which they've always stuck to.
Indeed. The mod is the perfect remaster, the new textures are not made for this game, they feel like they are for a new game (WC4 or even some new Warhammer kind of game)
It's the small details that make the original model memorable, like The Acolytes coughing is a nice touch, why did they have to replace it with lifeless model even though they have many more details.
Unpopular opinion here. I actually like nearly all of the reforged models. While I'm mad at Blizzard for pulling out the changes they promised, the reforged models are really good and the team that made them did attempt to do something different compared to Warcraft III Classic. Heck, there are so many models, doodads and environments. Real kudos and sad that team would be demonized as well due to Blizzard's upper management's laziness and mistakes.
Thats fair, i can see why someone can like them. They aint too horrible or anything, just some dont match with the original art, otherwise they are great. Blizzard lied a ton about other things tho.
Yeah i think if you look them up close they are amazing, i dont think the problem Is the artstyle, but rather the clash of them, in reforged the models look so realistic but the houses look ridiculous for example, and when you actually play the game, everything looks out of place, if they had sticked to a kinda realistic artstyle, colors and all, it would have been fantastic
Oh wow! The ghosts totally reminded me of Planescape Torment's Deionarra! "I shall wait for you in Death's halls, my love..." I love it whenever she says that!
the crystal zombie though, he's chewing it and it grows back I personally want the banshee/ghost models look more gritty and terrifying like they were originally tended to be.
Too much detail made it really hard to play normal 1v1 /2v2 games for me. Its hard to see whats going on lol. I kind of agree about the charm part too, but its alright. We still can switch back to the old 2002 version anytime! :)
@@Starfals Yeah, I immediately got the impression that while up close they look leagues better than the original the screen will turn into barf soup when there's 2 maxed out armies on the screen.
@@roberts3423 Warcraft 3 has a distinct art style. When World of Warcraft was released it looked A LOT like Warcraft 3. These new textures look nice, but they aren't really faithful to the original. They look like they belong to a different game.
i swear the war3 mod models are far more authentic and true to the theme of warcraft 3 than reforged. Literally just look at that knight model especially! holy smokes
Yeah, that mod is a better remaster for sure, but its not perfect and it lacks a lot of things. If BLizzard were to finish the mod, i'm sure everyone would have been more happier because it is more authentic as you said :P
@@micha_666 i understand how new war3 players like new looks. Esp. HotS and wow players, But i doubt the majority of the war3 community do. The essence of warcraft was not about detail and was certainly not about how awesome unit models looled but rather how each unit had its own personality to go along with its splendid voice. Take the footman for example, the old war 3 model was simplistic and true to the theme of a "footman". But in reforged the footman looks like a divine soldier from the most elite of elite units with huge shouldguards and gold plating throughout the armor and the sword that looks like its been made with high standards. None of the reforged models fit the war3 theme except a few really.
@@sohrabjamshed6899 Well that's is idd your opinion. I've been playing warcraft 3 since i was 8 years old and I'am still enjoying the new models. Night elves are fucking awesome. Footies also look badass to me.I think too many people just cant get over with nostalgia and seeing how this models would look like if Blizzard had ability to make them like now back then. Sry for my english i hope you understand what i meant by that xD
@@micha_666 yes i understand very well don't worry your english is pretty good haha. That's what i meant that these new models are not true to the war3 theme. They may be badass and new and cool but they don't fit the war3 universe. The reforged models are more fit for world of warcraft and heroes of the storm because if you noticed many hero models in reforged are exactly like their HotS counterpart. So there isn't anything true to war3. The models are more fit for the HotS theme than war3. Because war3 is about simplicity and the fact that reforged models are far from simple, just ruins the experience for me. (keep in mind i was extremely excited about reforged until i saw how the models were)
Yepp, all look sweet. I honestly dont even need Reforged or the mod. :) Warcraft 3 is sooo nostalgic. Sure, the mod makes it look like a remastered game, but Reforged is trying to make it look amazing. Its all great indeed :)
Just imagine - a custom race, humans only, based on bandits, mages, heretics and golems units. And also those paladins models with swords, sheilds and so on. So badass.
Oh boy that could be a Mercenary faction for hire. Like Warhammer's Wardogs faction. But the game would have to be severely expanded for that to happen. Oh boy, the day will come were we will be able to build a High Elven or Draenei city, instead of just building a simple military base to destroy another military camp, erasing all the beauty those structures ooze with in this game. Give me something like City Skylines but warcraft edition with some elements of Black and White got damn it!
@@Starfals they will not because of new bullshit terms. Why df will anyone spend their time and effort on any creation if later blizzard can steal it from them and not give any credit what so ever??
Better than the WoW ones :P I wish those banshees would replace the low textured ones of WoW. (P.s. i had to do it, did u see what the monsters were doing on their own!! It was too easy!)
Warcraft 3 (2002) is the best in my opinion because I grew up on this game I used to love this game every weekend for 3-4 hours playing it was a lot of fun
awwwwwww I will miss the old Iron golems, but the new still very cool! and of course, long live the new bandits! thats guys look serious dangerous and lethals! I know what did you do with that venoms dude ;) and holy shit, that what I call a flesh golem
If only they brought back the old character selection. It was filled with the Ogres and even some lesser races like the Gnolls and Kobolds, you could even be a wolf if you wanted, but no animals if they did bring it back. This shows that if given time, the characters can be a new racial addition, it would be absolutely cool to see those skeletons if the Necromancer class was made, would be cool to use Kobolds and Gnolls to be a 'neutral' race, OOOO! Neutral race tree! Just like the pandaren except is a separate race line filled with these critters and troublemakers. Even being able to use the Golems as well can be great to see. And might I add, all the updates on the animals, especially the Kodos is great, can't wait to see if they will to an entire remodel of the game itself, making everything ever more realistic and terrifyingly cool.
(Hmm, right off the back, I have issues. Why does the bandit look like a barbarian? Barbarians are good unit designs, don't get me wrong, but that is a more or less complete departure from what that unit is supposed to represent. There's a world of difference between a warrior raiding for his tribe, and a thug looking to make a profit, after all. There are others who look much more like the thugs I'd expect though, so not a net loss I don't think, not there at least. Except for the Bandit Lords. They just straight up made them rampaging barbarians... yeah, that's just a complete loss. I liked what they did with the dark mages though. And aside from the clipping, I really like those zombies... and ghosts... ... seems like they've done a better job with Undead who aren't the Scourge than they've done with the Scourge... for some reason. And I don't remember what those creepy sludge monsters are called, but dang it if they don't look nice and scary. ... What the heck did they do to the water elementals though? I mean those ARE supposed to be water elementals right? Made out of water? It's frankly hard to tell... ... And okay, seriously, what's with all the good undead horrors being reserved for NOT The Scourge? I might be a bit biased but DANG... that Flesh Golem looks intimidating. I do think they overdid it on the skull decorations though. Golems don't really care about aesthetics, it would have had no reason to hang those up on itself, and I don't think a crazy flesh golem creating mage would hang up three random skulls instead of, say, more stabby bits. That's just my opinion though. All in all... well, more of the same really. Some I find really cool, and others... just make me sigh. Also, just realized, I haven't seen, and can't find, your Part 2 showcase... huh, that's a pity. Did it get taken down?)
I was wondering myself. Why did they use barbs for the bandits haha, its kind of odd right? The water elementals are from Dalaran, so i think they just used an arcane model/unit instead of the basic water elemental one (also, this new look will fit more for Dota). There are already water elementals, so i guess they dont wanna repeat them. More unique models i guess? I need to double check how they are called but yea, that's what i was thinking ;p P.s. The part 2 is there, i made a play list and it should all be there. Either in the Warcraft playlist or the Comparison videos one?
Oh wait, Part 2 was taken down for some reason, i'm gonna upload it tomorrow again.. hmm. Shame, it had like 100k views and a ton of comments. All gone now :X
@@Starfals (Ah, dang it TH-cam... probably a bot or the like, or whatever it is, I'm sorry that happened. I'm glad to know I didn't just bizarrely overlook it though. I look forward to seeing it when it's up again!)
1. The dog changed breed 2. The kobolds have human quality equipment 3. Some units now have bare chests 4. Zombies now have shards for some reason 5. The colours of the floors are worse and sometimes plain
Those were the dalaran zombies, not regular ones. There are also normal zombies as well lol. I guess the shards are cuz of the mana/magical kingdom of dalaran
I see people complaining that the models don't have the charm and are "over detailed". As for the charm,i guess i must agree,the closest the models are to the OG ones,the more charm they had. Although i must remind you that,if they dared to make something so close to the old ones,they'd get mocked that "NO DETAILS YOU ARE USELESS" and reforged would be a complete failure, while now the models can save it and pull it from instant doom. But yeah,they don't got this OG feeling. As for over detailed,no,it is well balanced: not too much for the not that good PCs but not completely rubbish,give the credit they deserve.
The flesh golem head shouldnt be like this.it looks so ugly. Unless there should be the helmet add and only the teeth going out like in 2002.but now it is bald man
A lot of the neutral units from the base game do boil down to tinting the same model of unit different shades. I like that reforge goes to make them all unique. I've only seen this video on the neutral units so I don't know how they look top to bottom but they look distinct enough that it'll be very easy at a glance to tell which one is which instead of "Okay its the purple skeleton, but I have a purple skeleton too..." then having to identify team colors. I do however wonder why certain decisions were made in stark contrast to the original models. Like wizards having black hair in the original and the reforged having white beards. Or the.. Goodness I forgot their name after all this time. The units at 12:46 were originally left handed holding their shields in their right hand. Even in their concept art they were that way but the reforged has them all right handed. I do wish to see the units closely in motion, the idle animations make sense with Bandits for example having their weapons lowered. But it always felt like a war game when every footy and bandit had sword or axe raised at all times. Seeing the original units next to the reforged ones that have that distinction feels so off putting. I wouldn't want my units to drop arms just because I retreated just enough that their base aggro range doesn't attract them to the enemy army. Although I also noticed in your Night Elf video the Demon Hunter just has basically no idle animations compared to the 2002 model. I seriously hope animations are added and improved on come the release.
Yeah, most things have their own models, its super awesome actually. Even if the models don't fit always.. Its still amazing how most units can be a hero now and nobody will blink. Everything looks good enough to be a hero now. Why some units were changed like the golems or dinos.. is beyond me.
the mod keeps the original looks to the W3 models but makes it more 3D while the reforged version completely changes the looks of each unit while also making it more 3D its like Reforged was trying to 1up the mod and when they were finished with the product they forgot what game they were making
those water elementals look more like the voidcaller warlock pet :-/ kinda wish hthey wouldve kept the wow style though (like in the mod). it feels almost like an entirely different IP now that they leaned more towards realism than toony
Honestly, most of the "reforged" models don't look like they belong in Warcraft. The aesthetic has shifted a lot. Most models have a very generic fantasy feel to them.
Yea, 99 % of the people share your comment. I also do. It all seems very generic and not warcrafty at all. I still like them, but i wish they had that WC3 feel/magic.
So bad even the first units show they messed up. The old models got this very clear thug like look. The new models just follow this viking nonsense principle.
Yes. It's very strange how they decided to make the rogue/thug/bandit like units into Vikings/chaos warriors from the Warhammer universe. I never understood some of their reasons for the art. Warcraft has Vikings and they live in the North. No Vikings ever went to Lordaeron and the human lands. Vikings are not even humans in the Warcraft lore. Its all weird to me, and it does not fit.
The Reforged one looks ten thousand times better, don't really get the hate, if you think the original one or the model one is better, you have serious eye problems.
I guess people think they are better because of the art style, sure, the new ones are a ton better but also don't try to copy the old models at all. I guess thats why people are also upset.
I personally think a big reason as to why the new models look so underwhelming compared to the old ones, or the modded ones is because every model had a very distinct look to it. Each and every one. You can clearly tell them apart, from the moment you look at them, even from a distance and even in the middle of all the action happening on screen. While some of the modded models look a bit ugly, you can tell they stayed true to that and tried to replicate that distinction for every unit. You do not see that in reforged. Really, go to any time stamp in this video where the reforged panel shows a collection of unit types. They all look extremely similar, they blend together so much. To make it worse, that's all zoomed in view. Now try looking at all that shit during gameplay, with tons of units in sight, spells and particle effects happening. All the clarity is completely gone. The shift in design choice is extremely evident. Taking the skeleton archer for example (3:55), you can see the bow taking up almost as much space as the skeleton itself, the colour tints being so in your face that you simply CAN'T not tell them apart. Whereas the new models, going for realism, the bow is scaled down single handed and you will not notice it without conscious effort. Place a dozen of those units on screen mixing in with all the other skeleton models you absolutely will not tell them apart. Its bad enough that the 2 tiers of skeleton archers look identical but the fact that they look so similar to every other type of that unit makes it that much more worse
Thats so true. Its a bit hard to know whats going on now in a battle. Before it was more obvious, i wont answer to your whole comment, but i agree with it.
While the new graphics certainly look nice and clean, it's unfortunate they seem to have decided to completely change the art style. Warcraft 3 visual design was cool, but it was also charmingly campy and really helped it feel distinctive. Most of these updated/new designs feel like they could fit in almost any modern fantasy game setting where realism and grimdark reigns supreme.
All the models are clearly way better. Its mainly the way they translate into clarity ingame that these nostalgia lovers dislike(every old WoW/W3 fan ever).
@@Starfals that's what exactly what i think! Before reforged model released i always think that they'll look more like syndicate mobs in Alterac, shady and look more "human", not like barbaric-half orcish grunt-with overly testosterone guy.
@@RandomGuy-uj4hn Yep, because they are supposed to be like rogues or bandits. I guess they went for a new look. As a whole, reforged went for a new look for sooo many units. Many things are 100% new and different and don't match with the original looks.
Reforged has fantastic models, definitely prefer those over all others, but again, people have no issues with that, but rather the bugs and broken promises of the game itself.
Indeedy, and the icons. I cant stand some of the new Icons to be honest. Models are great, even if some of them dont really fit the Warcraft theme or art. Its still top notch. I also made a whole video about the broken promises as well! They sure know how to lie..
@@Starfals I feel like Blizzard bit off more than they could chew, as in, Activision limited them during development and so Blizzard's goals were cut short, forced to gimp the whole game I mean Blizzard itself once used to be a respected company, but ever since merging with Activision, it's been all going slowly down the drain.
Don't worry, they just added bandits and knights. Both are in game now, they just replace the knights cuz they are supposed to be bandits and not knights lol. They are fixing a warcraft 3 problem basically.
Thank you all for watching (and for all the new subscribes)
It's been really fun to share my videos, talk to people about them, and of course for people to enjoy them! :)
P.s. Sorry it took long to make, but my computer kept on breaking and editing this took forever, that's why there are a few mistakes here and there too.
P.sss. Reforged will be out soon hopefully, and we will be all playing it in no time :) (Dota anyone? :D :D)
dotaaaaaaaaaaaaa
You are welcome and keep making great videos for us ^^
@@marielpetterson1370 I wont stop anytime soon so no worry
Что то есть в этом угловатом стиле
Lmao what tf is this 10:27
Wtf Bandits turned into Chaos Marauders from Warhammer.
Yea, i was wondering of what else they also remind me :P
MARAUDER HORSEMAN!
Take it, southerner!
And neutral cultists turned into chaos sorcerers.
Blizzard did copy everything from Warhammer. They basically remade a water downed corny rated G b movie status of Warhammer. Original concept was a Warhammer game but G.W turned it down. Then they hired bad writer's to study Warhammer lore and make the Cheese that Warcraft is today.
Ive said it before and i say it again. You can tell they outsourced the model works. They are not bad. They just dont look like blizzard.
Yeah, it has that vibe for sure. Its not horrible but not super warcrafty and magical/unique. Has a more generic look.
Exactly what I told myself
They outsourced models for hots as well. But hots models are the best. And very true to originals.
Aye, they look Chinese as fuck. Animations aren't made by blizzard and neither are the models. I can tell this is purely outsourced and in the case of it not being, it must be a new lead animator/model designer or a new team at blizzard doing this cause this is too far outside blizzards comfort zone which they've always stuck to.
@@malohn2068 Elaborate on how they look Chinese
Bandits now look less like forest thugs and more like Conan rip-offs.
Hahahahhhhh yea
Basically every unit could be a hero model now
Ye, everything is unique and looks great. No more repeating models.
@@Starfals makes you wonder when they plan on revamping wow to this
well dota did that before was cool xD
Even bunny model can. It looks damn agressive
Even the rabbits and the frogs ?
No one:
Me: The Acolytes finally stopped coughing after 17 years.
Aren't they snickering?
They finally got cure for AIDS
I always thought they were laughihg
@@manuelyausaz2976 Haha me too
From my perspective, the mod does what blizzard should've done, while the new textures belonged into a Warcraft 4.
Indeed. The mod is the perfect remaster, the new textures are not made for this game, they feel like they are for a new game (WC4 or even some new Warhammer kind of game)
@@Starfals Rebirth for the win, though :D
It's the small details that make the original model memorable, like The Acolytes coughing is a nice touch, why did they have to replace it with lifeless model even though they have many more details.
I honestly dont like how the Mud and Rock Golems look in Reforged, too much Crystals
Cant say the same with the Siege Golems tho, they look BADASS
Same. Mud Golems look weird to me as well. So smily and meh looking xD
well they have crystals in the old Wc3 to.. they are just to fucking bad looking to even see them
i liked the mandalorian style heads of the siege golems from classic tho
I feel like the mod did a way better job in "updating"' the models of 2002. The models in the mod are way more familiar.
Yep, Blizzard really dropped the ball... a FREE Mod did a better job. Check out my last video/latest. U will be mad too :P
It looks so good
Bandit: we stronk and go to battle shirtless
Current Azeroth tech: lmao these Dwarves just invented Catridge firearms
They got like bazookas, air raids and much much more xD ( tanks too!) The barb bandits got no chance lolol
Starfals I doubt that highwayman will raiding any capital
The banshees are the only improvement in my opinion, they're lovely and well designed.
Unpopular opinion here. I actually like nearly all of the reforged models. While I'm mad at Blizzard for pulling out the changes they promised, the reforged models are really good and the team that made them did attempt to do something different compared to Warcraft III Classic. Heck, there are so many models, doodads and environments. Real kudos and sad that team would be demonized as well due to Blizzard's upper management's laziness and mistakes.
Thats fair, i can see why someone can like them. They aint too horrible or anything, just some dont match with the original art, otherwise they are great. Blizzard lied a ton about other things tho.
Yeah i think if you look them up close they are amazing, i dont think the problem Is the artstyle, but rather the clash of them, in reforged the models look so realistic but the houses look ridiculous for example, and when you actually play the game, everything looks out of place, if they had sticked to a kinda realistic artstyle, colors and all, it would have been fantastic
Models in Reforged look like something you could put in any fantasy game and no one would know it's from Warcraft.
Pretty much, but they are still great
Its form of demonstration is unique. Congratulations for the work.
Thank you, do you like the Reforged models btw?
Water elemental looks like that void lord from starcraft
True, i should have added that too :D
They were energy elemental things,just back then there was some laziness and they were given the same model with water elementals.
Oh wow! The ghosts totally reminded me of Planescape Torment's Deionarra!
"I shall wait for you in Death's halls, my love..." I love it whenever she says that!
The new ghosts are soo awesome :) 10/10 for sure, and i wanna see a whole map with only ghosts lol
10:55 🤣😂😁😘😘😍😏
Shh, dont tell anyone!!
@@Starfals Rules34 approve this moment '-'
Warcraft pron lmao
r/cursedcomments
poor dryards
Somebody's GOT to make a custom map with a killer bunny in it!
Hahaha, dont give me ideas XD
@@Starfals Why not? Go right ahead and make it! Be sure to add in a black knight who would die from dismemberment if you can!
@@Starfals Sorry idea is copyrighted by Monty Python and you can not use it.
0:35 Looks like this guy lost his whole family during the war according to that facial expression... (Been 18 years, so I guess that's possible!)
There were many wars in the last 18 years (in Warcraft) so who knows ;P
I never noticed that acolytes had knives. I always thought they were just double fisting things when they attacked.
Same, making those videos showed me a lot of cool details :)
Man, all of this high detail model should be on an MMO :( imagine the goodness :(
Yea, i was checking WoW yesterday and it looked so Blurry... omg
the crystal zombie though, he's chewing it and it grows back
I personally want the banshee/ghost models look more gritty and terrifying like they were originally tended to be.
Dont get me wrong, the HD models look great. But the game kind of loses its charm when everything looks so overly detailed.
Too much detail made it really hard to play normal 1v1 /2v2 games for me. Its hard to see whats going on lol. I kind of agree about the charm part too, but its alright. We still can switch back to the old 2002 version anytime! :)
More unhappy they didn't keep the original models and changed them too much.
@@Starfals Yeah, I immediately got the impression that while up close they look leagues better than the original the screen will turn into barf soup when there's 2 maxed out armies on the screen.
@@EmperorSigismund now just get a stick and mix it around
@@roberts3423 Warcraft 3 has a distinct art style. When World of Warcraft was released it looked A LOT like Warcraft 3. These new textures look nice, but they aren't really faithful to the original. They look like they belong to a different game.
i swear the war3 mod models are far more authentic and true to the theme of warcraft 3 than reforged. Literally just look at that knight model especially! holy smokes
Yeah, that mod is a better remaster for sure, but its not perfect and it lacks a lot of things. If BLizzard were to finish the mod, i'm sure everyone would have been more happier because it is more authentic as you said :P
Maybe beacuse they look like they've been imported from WoW. I actually enjoy the new looks. Some colors could need changes imo.
@@micha_666 i understand how new war3 players like new looks. Esp. HotS and wow players, But i doubt the majority of the war3 community do. The essence of warcraft was not about detail and was certainly not about how awesome unit models looled but rather how each unit had its own personality to go along with its splendid voice.
Take the footman for example, the old war 3 model was simplistic and true to the theme of a "footman". But in reforged the footman looks like a divine soldier from the most elite of elite units with huge shouldguards and gold plating throughout the armor and the sword that looks like its been made with high standards. None of the reforged models fit the war3 theme except a few really.
@@sohrabjamshed6899 Well that's is idd your opinion. I've been playing warcraft 3 since i was 8 years old and I'am still enjoying the new models. Night elves are fucking awesome. Footies also look badass to me.I think too many people just cant get over with nostalgia and seeing how this models would look like if Blizzard had ability to make them like now back then. Sry for my english i hope you understand what i meant by that xD
@@micha_666 yes i understand very well don't worry your english is pretty good haha. That's what i meant that these new models are not true to the war3 theme. They may be badass and new and cool but they don't fit the war3 universe. The reforged models are more fit for world of warcraft and heroes of the storm because if you noticed many hero models in reforged are exactly like their HotS counterpart. So there isn't anything true to war3. The models are more fit for the HotS theme than war3. Because war3 is about simplicity and the fact that reforged models are far from simple, just ruins the experience for me. (keep in mind i was extremely excited about reforged until i saw how the models were)
the video music is soo calming btw
Reforged looks great! Mod looks VERY good and of course WC3 looks so nostalgic. I love 'em all! :)
Yepp, all look sweet. I honestly dont even need Reforged or the mod. :) Warcraft 3 is sooo nostalgic. Sure, the mod makes it look like a remastered game, but Reforged is trying to make it look amazing.
Its all great indeed :)
Can't wait to see the Chosen Ones reforged... Great campaign.
Indeed :)
Just imagine - a custom race, humans only, based on bandits, mages, heretics and golems units. And also those paladins models with swords, sheilds and so on. So badass.
I wish they could add more custom races for sure lol
Oh boy that could be a Mercenary faction for hire.
Like Warhammer's Wardogs faction.
But the game would have to be severely expanded for that to happen. Oh boy, the day will come were we will be able to build a High Elven or Draenei city, instead of just building a simple military base to destroy another military camp, erasing all the beauty those structures ooze with in this game.
Give me something like City Skylines but warcraft edition with some elements of Black and White got damn it!
I'm genuinely excited for this. Now that most units have unique models, the mapping possibilities got so much more exciting!
Thats for sure :) i hope people will go nuts and make brand new maps!
@@Starfals sadly it seems like people are complaining saying nothing is changed
They some how thought a remaster was supposed to be a remake
@@Starfals they will not because of new bullshit terms. Why df will anyone spend their time and effort on any creation if later blizzard can steal it from them and not give any credit what so ever??
My mans really went all out on the *Kobold* comparison
MAN, those banshees look AMAZING.
And those sludge monstrosities... with the dryad... Enough interwebs for today!
Better than the WoW ones :P
I wish those banshees would replace the low textured ones of WoW.
(P.s. i had to do it, did u see what the monsters were doing on their own!! It was too easy!)
honestly the mod looks way better everything looks way to hyper realistic in reforged and some stuff dosent even look the the original wc3 units
A lot of things dont look like the original WC3 units, its a shame really lol. The mod is more fitting to be a remaster version :P
The reforged looks like crash of clans or Torchlight unit models
Thank You You Thank You . .. Such Joy To See & Everything Edited is So Perfect
11:52 Enigma's parents
Lol, his dad is scary
9:42 Now I'm a real boy!
Haha yea xD The old kids look like dolls or some kind of goblins lool
*force attack*
The children models are what nightmares are made of.
Hah, especially their empty eyes
Excellent Video. Thank you for the detailed previews
Thank you for appreciating the video too!
I tried to do my best with my buggy/laggy computer and the crashing Warcraft 3 Reforged Editor :P
10:31 wtf?!
Haha, ye, they looked like tentacle monsters from the hentai pron, sooooooooo.. ;p
@Vice TOLUCT oh boy, there are some centaur porns out there, but pig licking? Ughh...
Damn, the design and graphics are sooooo good! And it's only beta. Love blizzard for making such an effort.
At least one person likes the new graphics xD Most people seem to be so negative.
But the custom maps plays like poop
Warcraft 3 (2002) is the best in my opinion because I grew up on this game I used to love this game every weekend for 3-4 hours playing it was a lot of fun
It was a ton of fun back in the day yeah ;p Same here
BTW, nice name!
sweet finally a new video again i was worried u wont make a new 1
Yea because the editor and my video making software were crashing, so it was hard to make a video.
I always make videos!
That one time at bandit camp...
8:21 Oh,yeah~Physics!
The B.......est kind! :P
Chaos consume us-
Wait a minute
HA! Wrong universe xD! (i should tell that to Blizzard as well)
WC3 next to Reforged is like the literal definition of the Soul v Soulless meme
Haha, ye, so many people said that.
awwwwwww I will miss the old Iron golems, but the new still very cool!
and of course, long live the new bandits! thats guys look serious dangerous and lethals!
I know what did you do with that venoms dude ;)
and holy shit, that what I call a flesh golem
a coño que tambien hablas español xd
The flesh golem is the real deal :D Finally he looks fleshy and golemy and cool. Shame for the old Iron golems. The new ones are just stone ones.
@@Starfals ooooo I'm happy to compart same opinions with you nwn!
Bandit 1, Madmax called, they want their outfit back.
Lol ye, i wanna watch that now too lol :P
7:17 nostalgia starts
13:29 it is indeed good idea a scythe with a shield, bravo bravo.... .... .... brava
That razor looking ones are great plus ot is amazing that they are the base models for modern dota 2.
So far, the only thing thats confusing about dota 3 reforged is, the icons lol :D The models are great
That Chaos marauder in a blizzard game is very fitting lol
For the chaos gods (of Lordaeron)!
It's weird how the mod doesn't necessarily look better but looks way closer to WoW than reforged does.
Indeed. Its more warcrafty
whats this is chaos marauder 0:20
Blood for the blood god?
THE CHAOS ARE RISING!
SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!
11:58 In reforged they look like enigma in dota2.
Yea totally lol, maybe its cuz we need enigma in dota 1/3
@@Starfals Haha.:)
9:10 The kid in resembles Goob from 'Meet the Robinsons'
If only they brought back the old character selection. It was filled with the Ogres and even some lesser races like the Gnolls and Kobolds, you could even be a wolf if you wanted, but no animals if they did bring it back.
This shows that if given time, the characters can be a new racial addition, it would be absolutely cool to see those skeletons if the Necromancer class was made, would be cool to use Kobolds and Gnolls to be a 'neutral' race, OOOO! Neutral race tree! Just like the pandaren except is a separate race line filled with these critters and troublemakers. Even being able to use the Golems as well can be great to see.
And might I add, all the updates on the animals, especially the Kodos is great, can't wait to see if they will to an entire remodel of the game itself, making everything ever more realistic and terrifyingly cool.
Bandits now look like god damn marauders. instead of bandits. I like the older ones lol. The cultists look badass though.
Not gonna lie, I was not ready for that Sludge Monster and Centaur
I wasnt either, and i made the video LOL
(Hmm, right off the back, I have issues. Why does the bandit look like a barbarian? Barbarians are good unit designs, don't get me wrong, but that is a more or less complete departure from what that unit is supposed to represent. There's a world of difference between a warrior raiding for his tribe, and a thug looking to make a profit, after all. There are others who look much more like the thugs I'd expect though, so not a net loss I don't think, not there at least. Except for the Bandit Lords. They just straight up made them rampaging barbarians... yeah, that's just a complete loss.
I liked what they did with the dark mages though. And aside from the clipping, I really like those zombies... and ghosts... ... seems like they've done a better job with Undead who aren't the Scourge than they've done with the Scourge... for some reason. And I don't remember what those creepy sludge monsters are called, but dang it if they don't look nice and scary.
... What the heck did they do to the water elementals though? I mean those ARE supposed to be water elementals right? Made out of water? It's frankly hard to tell... ... And okay, seriously, what's with all the good undead horrors being reserved for NOT The Scourge? I might be a bit biased but DANG... that Flesh Golem looks intimidating. I do think they overdid it on the skull decorations though. Golems don't really care about aesthetics, it would have had no reason to hang those up on itself, and I don't think a crazy flesh golem creating mage would hang up three random skulls instead of, say, more stabby bits. That's just my opinion though.
All in all... well, more of the same really. Some I find really cool, and others... just make me sigh.
Also, just realized, I haven't seen, and can't find, your Part 2 showcase... huh, that's a pity. Did it get taken down?)
I was wondering myself. Why did they use barbs for the bandits haha, its kind of odd right?
The water elementals are from Dalaran, so i think they just used an arcane model/unit instead of the basic water elemental one (also, this new look will fit more for Dota). There are already water elementals, so i guess they dont wanna repeat them. More unique models i guess? I need to double check how they are called but yea, that's what i was thinking ;p
P.s. The part 2 is there, i made a play list and it should all be there. Either in the Warcraft playlist or the Comparison videos one?
Oh wait, Part 2 was taken down for some reason, i'm gonna upload it tomorrow again.. hmm. Shame, it had like 100k views and a ton of comments. All gone now :X
@@Starfals (Ah, dang it TH-cam... probably a bot or the like, or whatever it is, I'm sorry that happened. I'm glad to know I didn't just bizarrely overlook it though. I look forward to seeing it when it's up again!)
Fun fact : the Darker version of Knight Is the Bodyguard of lord Garithos
I didn't know the Vikings of Sweden were in reforged
They are! They moved to Lordaeron!
@@Starfals I thought they were supposed to invade England before the battle of hastings XD
1. The dog changed breed
2. The kobolds have human quality equipment
3. Some units now have bare chests
4. Zombies now have shards for some reason
5. The colours of the floors are worse and sometimes plain
Those were the dalaran zombies, not regular ones. There are also normal zombies as well lol. I guess the shards are cuz of the mana/magical kingdom of dalaran
HAHAHA WC3 PRON XDDDD very good one, like
I see people complaining that the models don't have the charm and are "over detailed". As for the charm,i guess i must agree,the closest the models are to the OG ones,the more charm they had. Although i must remind you that,if they dared to make something so close to the old ones,they'd get mocked that "NO DETAILS YOU ARE USELESS" and reforged would be a complete failure, while now the models can save it and pull it from instant doom. But yeah,they don't got this OG feeling. As for over detailed,no,it is well balanced: not too much for the not that good PCs but not completely rubbish,give the credit they deserve.
The flesh golem head shouldnt be like this.it looks so ugly. Unless there should be the helmet add and only the teeth going out like in 2002.but now it is bald man
Yea its odd lol
Look like the horde are welcoming humans in their rosters.
A lot of the neutral units from the base game do boil down to tinting the same model of unit different shades. I like that reforge goes to make them all unique. I've only seen this video on the neutral units so I don't know how they look top to bottom but they look distinct enough that it'll be very easy at a glance to tell which one is which instead of "Okay its the purple skeleton, but I have a purple skeleton too..." then having to identify team colors.
I do however wonder why certain decisions were made in stark contrast to the original models. Like wizards having black hair in the original and the reforged having white beards. Or the.. Goodness I forgot their name after all this time. The units at 12:46 were originally left handed holding their shields in their right hand. Even in their concept art they were that way but the reforged has them all right handed.
I do wish to see the units closely in motion, the idle animations make sense with Bandits for example having their weapons lowered. But it always felt like a war game when every footy and bandit had sword or axe raised at all times. Seeing the original units next to the reforged ones that have that distinction feels so off putting. I wouldn't want my units to drop arms just because I retreated just enough that their base aggro range doesn't attract them to the enemy army. Although I also noticed in your Night Elf video the Demon Hunter just has basically no idle animations compared to the 2002 model. I seriously hope animations are added and improved on come the release.
Yeah, most things have their own models, its super awesome actually. Even if the models don't fit always.. Its still amazing how most units can be a hero now and nobody will blink. Everything looks good enough to be a hero now.
Why some units were changed like the golems or dinos.. is beyond me.
Kobold: You no take Candle!
Hah, thats right ;p
damn, you really made those female centaurs' day)
The Shepherd like dogs turned into pitbulls.
Haha yea, a totally new kind of dog lol
the mod keeps the original looks to the W3 models but makes it more 3D while the reforged version completely changes the looks of each unit while also making it more 3D
its like Reforged was trying to 1up the mod and when they were finished with the product they forgot what game they were making
Haha ye, its like 50 different gams and most of the things dont have the WC3 vibe
Man, we are get more heroes in defense of the ancients
You know it! :P Dota all day long incoming
those water elementals look more like the voidcaller warlock pet :-/
kinda wish hthey wouldve kept the wow style though (like in the mod). it feels almost like an entirely different IP now that they leaned more towards realism than toony
Yea, but also the voids are like the pets, and they are supposed to be a skeleton like shadow. Its all weird now LOL
10:30 lol
xD!
@@Starfals F
They should definitely Change all the void/ elemental Models in reforged. They all look like some kind of slimr/flesh Mixture.
Indeed, it badly needs to be udpated
Honestly, most of the "reforged" models don't look like they belong in Warcraft. The aesthetic has shifted a lot. Most models have a very generic fantasy feel to them.
Yea, 99 % of the people share your comment. I also do. It all seems very generic and not warcrafty at all. I still like them, but i wish they had that WC3 feel/magic.
Wtf the water elementals does gym too woah
3:12 looks delicious
So bad even the first units show they messed up. The old models got this very clear thug like look. The new models just follow this viking nonsense principle.
Yes. It's very strange how they decided to make the rogue/thug/bandit like units into Vikings/chaos warriors from the Warhammer universe. I never understood some of their reasons for the art. Warcraft has Vikings and they live in the North.
No Vikings ever went to Lordaeron and the human lands. Vikings are not even humans in the Warcraft lore. Its all weird to me, and it does not fit.
skeletons! they're spooky, they're scary... skeletons!
Skellies are scarry :O
The Reforged one looks ten thousand times better, don't really get the hate, if you think the original one or the model one is better, you have serious eye problems.
I guess people think they are better because of the art style, sure, the new ones are a ton better but also don't try to copy the old models at all. I guess thats why people are also upset.
0:26 Well, at least Warhammer Fantasy Battles map dont need custom models anymore. At least fo Chaos Northeren tribes.
Yepp, they are all great now :D We just need demonic units to fill their ranks(those twisted units)
I subbed for minute 10-11
xD Thanks
Lol, the Reforged bandit with axe looks like a Chaos Marauder from Warhammer Fantasy
I personally think a big reason as to why the new models look so underwhelming compared to the old ones, or the modded ones is because every model had a very distinct look to it. Each and every one. You can clearly tell them apart, from the moment you look at them, even from a distance and even in the middle of all the action happening on screen.
While some of the modded models look a bit ugly, you can tell they stayed true to that and tried to replicate that distinction for every unit.
You do not see that in reforged. Really, go to any time stamp in this video where the reforged panel shows a collection of unit types. They all look extremely similar, they blend together so much. To make it worse, that's all zoomed in view. Now try looking at all that shit during gameplay, with tons of units in sight, spells and particle effects happening. All the clarity is completely gone.
The shift in design choice is extremely evident. Taking the skeleton archer for example (3:55), you can see the bow taking up almost as much space as the skeleton itself, the colour tints being so in your face that you simply CAN'T not tell them apart. Whereas the new models, going for realism, the bow is scaled down single handed and you will not notice it without conscious effort. Place a dozen of those units on screen mixing in with all the other skeleton models you absolutely will not tell them apart. Its bad enough that the 2 tiers of skeleton archers look identical but the fact that they look so similar to every other type of that unit makes it that much more worse
Thats so true. Its a bit hard to know whats going on now in a battle. Before it was more obvious, i wont answer to your whole comment, but i agree with it.
@@Starfals thanks for replying to everybody :)
Good discussions going on
While the new graphics certainly look nice and clean, it's unfortunate they seem to have decided to completely change the art style. Warcraft 3 visual design was cool, but it was also charmingly campy and really helped it feel distinctive. Most of these updated/new designs feel like they could fit in almost any modern fantasy game setting where realism and grimdark reigns supreme.
I also dislike the new style, the old one was better, even the one in Heroes. Oh well, the new graphics at least look good.
3:00 THE GOLEMS ARE SO HAPPY HAHA
to think this was just a fan proyect, I thank blizzard for being wise enough to support this :3 I can't wait for reforge
Reforged was a fan project? Really? or what do u mean lol
Dang, they made this look better than wow.
Yea, in many ways, this is more detailed than WoW, and u will rarely see them from soo close.. unlike WoW.
I mean the new assassin model looks pretty cool. I do like that they added more variety with the mobs but the execution wasnt the best
2020 is just 2002 shuffled around a bit
Why the hell are there crystals growing out of the zombies?? 😂😂
Arcane zombie or something :D Its from the dalaran experiments or prisons if i recall right? :P (did u see how he was eating the crystals btw lol)
It's not a zombie. This is Dalaran Mutant.
All the models are clearly way better. Its mainly the way they translate into clarity ingame that these nostalgia lovers dislike(every old WoW/W3 fan ever).
The WC3 HD MOD locks more Detained than Reforged. KEK
Idk but i think bandit units would also perfectly applied as Vrykuls
That's what my friend said too, and you guys are not wrong. They look A LOT like Vrykuls. Tall barb-like humans. Not very bandity tho..
@@Starfals that's what exactly what i think!
Before reforged model released i always think that they'll look more like syndicate mobs in Alterac, shady and look more "human", not like barbaric-half orcish grunt-with overly testosterone guy.
@@RandomGuy-uj4hn Yep, because they are supposed to be like rogues or bandits. I guess they went for a new look. As a whole, reforged went for a new look for sooo many units.
Many things are 100% new and different and don't match with the original looks.
Bandits could be literally a viking faction
I'm down for that ;p
what video editor was used for this? i like the way it switches to the next units :3
Its Filmora and thanks! Some people didnt like that but i do soo lol :P
@@Starfals haha! thanks! if i will ever try to make a movie i will download it
Reforged has fantastic models, definitely prefer those over all others, but again, people have no issues with that, but rather the bugs and broken promises of the game itself.
Indeedy, and the icons. I cant stand some of the new Icons to be honest. Models are great, even if some of them dont really fit the Warcraft theme or art. Its still top notch.
I also made a whole video about the broken promises as well! They sure know how to lie..
@@Starfals I feel like Blizzard bit off more than they could chew, as in, Activision limited them during development and so Blizzard's goals were cut short, forced to gimp the whole game I mean Blizzard itself once used to be a respected company, but ever since merging with Activision, it's been all going slowly down the drain.
Actually the knight units, doesnt look knightly now, they looks more lika a bandits
Don't worry, they just added bandits and knights. Both are in game now, they just replace the knights cuz they are supposed to be bandits and not knights lol.
They are fixing a warcraft 3 problem basically.