Crazy seeing this video come up. I just bought one of these myself and am in the process of upgrading it to the gills. So far, I have an Arc A380 and two 500GB NVMe SSDs with a USB-C card, front USB-C port, and Xeon E-2274G coming over the next few days.
Now that I see that yours only has the single heat pipe cooler, I'm not surprised the temps were so high. Upgrading it to something like the ID Cooling IS-55 or the IS-67 XT would make a big difference, as would adding a rear 60mm fan. That's what I've done in mine with the i7 9700. You have to do a little modification to the mounting hardware so that you can just screw the cooler directly to the standoffs in the system, but it's pretty simple and the results are pretty good.
@@basicdadtechNo problem. All you need to do to get either of them to work is to use the Intel hardware with the AMD screws. I had to use a drill bit to open up the holes to be able to use them, but then you don't have to worry about trying to use the intel backplate. I have the IS-55 cooling my i7 9700, with all limits removed, at 4.4GHz in an all-core run of Cinebench it's in the mid 80s after a 30 minute run.
@@DarkKnight-lh4gr I'm going to assume this is for the tower, as the 120 Mini wont' fit in the SFF. Anyhow, I've never bought the 120 Mini, but I assume the hardware is similar to the IS-55, in that they intend for you to use the included backplate for Intel and do not provide one for AMD since it's already included with the motherboard. So, what you will have to do is use the Intel mounting hardware minus the backplate since you want o screw into the factory mounting. Since HP uses 6-32 for the screw threading, like AMD, you will need to use the AMD screws with the Intel bracket. However, the screw holes on the brackets might not be big enough to fit the AMD screws. If so, you will need to use a drill to open up the holes a little. Then you should be able to mount everything up.
Seems like a tidy SFF PC that would fit under the TV in the living room. Whats the power draw on this? As some of us still worry about that, also less power the longer it will last. Also in your test please included ChimeraOS as that is the most game like system we can use to turn something like that into a gaming console.
@@catgirl_eva Chimera works well on my win2 devices with integrated graphics - i think you are right tho the intel or nvidia dedicated cards don't appear natively supported.
I build the same pc but the cooling isnt that great, you have any tips or maybe make a video about it? Like maybe a new cooler or other types of things, thank you bro
What wattage of PSU does it come with? I'm thinking of getting a used one with the quadro p400 along with a decent monitor and accessories all together for $330.
@@basicdadtech I asked my supplier he says the one he has comes with only 250w. Is there any GPU you would recommend? I'm thinking RX 6400. Or maybe the RTX 3050 LP will work on a 250W PSU? I have my doubts but you have more experience tinkering around with these prebuilts.
people just like seeing bigger number on the top left corner totally unaware of the benefits of capping Framerate from better latency to lower power usage and leaving decent hardware headroom for doing other things in the background e.g Recording/Streaming.
The only problem with these older systems is they don't do modern applications very well. I bought an A310 ARC card to use with my i7-8700T as a Plex server. Encoding a single 4K movie to send to my phone over the internet is pushing the CPU to 100%, I think for the audio that the AV1 encoder isn't performing. I never had a problem before I started serving 4K movies. I was very surprised to see the CPU run pegged at 100% for a single HW encoding. The ARC card was only running about 20% utilization. I'm now looking at a Dell 3240 compact with a i7-10700 for my Plex server.
Why are you using the CPU to transcode AV1 when you have an A310? Of course the CPU is going to have trouble keeping up with that as the CPU is doing software encdoing because it doesn't have AV1 support. The 10700 isn't going to be a lot better since it doesn't either and will have to resort to software encoding. Just use the A310 for transcoding. If you want to use the CPU, then I suggest at least getting an 11th Gen CPU as the media engine has AV1 support and you can just use Quicksync to do the transcodes. A system like this should have no problem doing what you're asking it to do if you were using the A310 to transcode.
@@TheGameBench I'm not using the CPU to transcode, Plex is using the A310. From what I remember reading the CPU will code the audio portion. I verified in case the settings were defaulted back to the no hardware setting. Plex has "Intel(R) Arc(TM) A310 LP Graphics" selected at the hardware transcoding device and my I7-8700T is struggling with a single 4K transcode to my phone off the network. 1080 and SD are not a problem, it's only the extra work of the 4K movies.
@@Shadow_Banned_Conservative Well, that being the case, the CPU is always going to be used to transcode the audio in Plex, and it doesn't matter what CPU you use, it encodes big chunks all at once. It's going to hit any CPU hard until it's done initially and might at other points in the movie. That's just how Plex works. Your CPU is fine. If you want to play files on devices that don't support surround formats, it's a good idea to include a compatibility track that doesn't need to be transcoded.
I have just picked up one, i7 with 310W PSU. I am wanting to try and figure out what PSU upgrade I can do to fit in a rtx 4060 low profile or if I can run it off the 310W with adaptors. some research I think.....
I tested the rtx 4060 lp in this machine paired with the i5-9500. Power draw in prime95 and furmark running simultaniously is around 240-250 watts. So the 310W power supply is totally fine. I used a SATA to 6-pin adaptor. Not the best, but seems ok for this setup.
I have been successfully running the 4060 LP with the 310W PSU with a dual SATA to 8 Pin to power the card. It’s being pushed quite hard on a 1440p ultrawide with high settings and gets warm in there, to the point where I have removed the side panel to help. It’s not so much the GPU but the processor is toasty.
Crazy seeing this video come up. I just bought one of these myself and am in the process of upgrading it to the gills. So far, I have an Arc A380 and two 500GB NVMe SSDs with a USB-C card, front USB-C port, and Xeon E-2274G coming over the next few days.
Does it support resizeable bar
Now that I see that yours only has the single heat pipe cooler, I'm not surprised the temps were so high. Upgrading it to something like the ID Cooling IS-55 or the IS-67 XT would make a big difference, as would adding a rear 60mm fan. That's what I've done in mine with the i7 9700. You have to do a little modification to the mounting hardware so that you can just screw the cooler directly to the standoffs in the system, but it's pretty simple and the results are pretty good.
@TheGameBench thank you! Looking up those coolers right now.
@@basicdadtechNo problem. All you need to do to get either of them to work is to use the Intel hardware with the AMD screws. I had to use a drill bit to open up the holes to be able to use them, but then you don't have to worry about trying to use the intel backplate. I have the IS-55 cooling my i7 9700, with all limits removed, at 4.4GHz in an all-core run of Cinebench it's in the mid 80s after a 30 minute run.
I’m thinking about getting a peerless assassin 120 mini how do Install it in the hp
@@DarkKnight-lh4gr I'm going to assume this is for the tower, as the 120 Mini wont' fit in the SFF. Anyhow, I've never bought the 120 Mini, but I assume the hardware is similar to the IS-55, in that they intend for you to use the included backplate for Intel and do not provide one for AMD since it's already included with the motherboard. So, what you will have to do is use the Intel mounting hardware minus the backplate since you want o screw into the factory mounting. Since HP uses 6-32 for the screw threading, like AMD, you will need to use the AMD screws with the Intel bracket. However, the screw holes on the brackets might not be big enough to fit the AMD screws. If so, you will need to use a drill to open up the holes a little. Then you should be able to mount everything up.
I think these look super cool, thanks for putting me on to an awesome PC! HPs Z-Series hold up like nothing else, this guy has great taste
even the case design looks really cool
Seems like a tidy SFF PC that would fit under the TV in the living room. Whats the power draw on this? As some of us still worry about that, also less power the longer it will last. Also in your test please included ChimeraOS as that is the most game like system we can use to turn something like that into a gaming console.
second vote for chimeraOS builds and testing. running it on a few of my machines.
Doesn't ChimeraOS not play nice with Intel though? Or was that just a GPU thing?
@@catgirl_eva Chimera works well on my win2 devices with integrated graphics - i think you are right tho the intel or nvidia dedicated cards don't appear natively supported.
The temps could be high because of the crappy TIM Intel used between the CPU die and the heatspreader. Delidding the CPU would most likely help.
I build the same pc but the cooling isnt that great, you have any tips or maybe make a video about it? Like maybe a new cooler or other types of things, thank you bro
Here where I live is selling for around $300-$350. Still not bad
What wattage of PSU does it come with? I'm thinking of getting a used one with the quadro p400 along with a decent monitor and accessories all together for $330.
I did another video on this PC where I mention that. It's 310 W.
@@basicdadtech Thanks mate. I might get an RX 6400 for it
@@basicdadtech I asked my supplier he says the one he has comes with only 250w. Is there any GPU you would recommend? I'm thinking RX 6400. Or maybe the RTX 3050 LP will work on a 250W PSU? I have my doubts but you have more experience tinkering around with these prebuilts.
My school uses these as computer
Might you be able to run the FFXIV Dawntrail Benchmark on this computer? Performance with the Arc A380 is.....well, it's bad.
Hello. I’ll try that benchmark soon. Probably this weekend
Looking forward to seeing this ffxiv test
people just like seeing bigger number on the top left corner totally unaware of the benefits of capping Framerate from better latency to lower power usage and leaving decent hardware headroom for doing other things in the background e.g Recording/Streaming.
The only problem with these older systems is they don't do modern applications very well.
I bought an A310 ARC card to use with my i7-8700T as a Plex server. Encoding a single 4K movie to send to my phone over the internet is pushing the CPU to 100%, I think for the audio that the AV1 encoder isn't performing. I never had a problem before I started serving 4K movies.
I was very surprised to see the CPU run pegged at 100% for a single HW encoding. The ARC card was only running about 20% utilization. I'm now looking at a Dell 3240 compact with a i7-10700 for my Plex server.
Why are you using the CPU to transcode AV1 when you have an A310? Of course the CPU is going to have trouble keeping up with that as the CPU is doing software encdoing because it doesn't have AV1 support. The 10700 isn't going to be a lot better since it doesn't either and will have to resort to software encoding. Just use the A310 for transcoding. If you want to use the CPU, then I suggest at least getting an 11th Gen CPU as the media engine has AV1 support and you can just use Quicksync to do the transcodes. A system like this should have no problem doing what you're asking it to do if you were using the A310 to transcode.
@@TheGameBench I'm not using the CPU to transcode, Plex is using the A310. From what I remember reading the CPU will code the audio portion. I verified in case the settings were defaulted back to the no hardware setting. Plex has "Intel(R) Arc(TM) A310 LP Graphics" selected at the hardware transcoding device and my I7-8700T is struggling with a single 4K transcode to my phone off the network. 1080 and SD are not a problem, it's only the extra work of the 4K movies.
@@Shadow_Banned_Conservative Well, that being the case, the CPU is always going to be used to transcode the audio in Plex, and it doesn't matter what CPU you use, it encodes big chunks all at once. It's going to hit any CPU hard until it's done initially and might at other points in the movie. That's just how Plex works. Your CPU is fine. If you want to play files on devices that don't support surround formats, it's a good idea to include a compatibility track that doesn't need to be transcoded.
How much watts is the power supply
310 W
@@basicdadtech the tower has a 650 watt psu
@@basicdadtechdo you think 250 watts is enough for rtx 3050
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I have just picked up one, i7 with 310W PSU. I am wanting to try and figure out what PSU upgrade I can do to fit in a rtx 4060 low profile or if I can run it off the 310W with adaptors. some research I think.....
I tested the rtx 4060 lp in this machine paired with the i5-9500. Power draw in prime95 and furmark running simultaniously is around 240-250 watts. So the 310W power supply is totally fine. I used a SATA to 6-pin adaptor. Not the best, but seems ok for this setup.
I have been successfully running the 4060 LP with the 310W PSU with a dual SATA to 8 Pin to power the card. It’s being pushed quite hard on a 1440p ultrawide with high settings and gets warm in there, to the point where I have removed the side panel to help. It’s not so much the GPU but the processor is toasty.
I really like the way their cases look, but HP’s BIOS is just way too restrictive.
Dell isn't really any better TBH.
You're entitled to your opinion but I have had too much bad luck with HP's quality.
How about a link where you got this?
ebay seller I got it from is "laptop-goods"
I have the tower
Nice. With what CPU?
@@basicdadtechi7 8700
@@basicdadtechI’m gonna buy a 650 watt psu for it
@@basicdadtechand then I’ll add a nvme and a rtx 3060 12gb
@@basicdadtechi7 8700
where are you seeing $140?
At the time of the video being posted there were a bunch for $140 with an i5-8500. Looks like they are all gone. Just looked and saw one for $170.