CLA Epic - EPIC Webinar with Chris Lord-Alge
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ธ.ค. 2020
- Mixing legend Chris Lord-Alge (Green Day, Muse, Bruce Springsteen) gives you an inside look at his CLA Epic multi reverb and delay plugin. Originally streamed live Dec 1, 2020.
GET CLA Epic: www.waves.com/epic
7:03 How to route delays to reverbs for a more cohesive sound
9:50 How to layer different reverbs and delays for a fuller sense of dimension in your mix
33:58 Which combinations of delays and reverbs to choose for different tasks
Music: "Big Toe"
Performed by Bald Man
Written by Kurt Demier, Benjamin Lake Trechsel & Chris Lord-Alge
Produced & Mixed by Chris Lord-Alge
baldmanband.com - เพลง
Get CLA Epic here: www.waves.com/epic
CLA Epic CPU i5-8400: 13% (Core). Waves, you need to combine CLA mixhub with CLA epic to reduce the CPU load (to send everything to a single copy of CLA Epic) and simplify automation. You promised to simplify the sends system in DAW, but inserting this plugin on each track is not an option and a simplification.
So, Waves, here example: I want to automating my reverbs. Snares samples, kick ambient sample, rooms, toms has Room Reverb and also toms and one of snares samples has Space Reverb. Before chorus there is toms fill and I want to increase Space Reverb like "Phil Collins - In The Air Tonight" for toms and one specific snare sample. In break part of song I want to add to all drums (except close mics) Hall Reverb. It's almost impossible without sends, busses! CLA and Waves it's not Epic - go home as you say!
P.S. and don't delete negative reviews on your site!
P.P.S. CPU load for 6 core: Valhalla plugins x8=3% | Slate Verbsuite x4 + D16 Repeater x4 = 10% | CLA Epic x8=30% (if I don't use send to AUX and busses, I need more of that)
@@Arthur1SD totally true
It needs to allow disable unused FX. That way you can use more instances as an insert (you don´t use 8 FX on every track) and if you want full control you can create 8 AUX with 8 instances with 1 fx enabled each, that way you have full control with the same CPU usage as right now is using only ONE instance of the plugin.
Right now you cannot use it as CLA tells is designed, if you use it on every track as CLA says the CPU implodes after the 3th instance.
It is a pity because the plugin is amazing and with a very simple solution (allowing TURN OFF fx) it would be fixed.
Waves needs to make a SSL controller with the real console routing and knobs that would be a hit.
@@edwardbrands3271 i totally agree! not just channel faders, rotary knobs for gain sends as well! cubase controller has 9 knobs for EQ, what a waste !!
the way CLA express himself is a show in itself ahah
I know...it's something else.
And I mean this with great love, respect, and adoration...
Next seminar:
“how to interview
Mr. CLA himself“
Step one:
Say whatever YOU need to say, then introduce him.
Step two:
Go get your coffee, go shopping, go on vacation to Brazil...🤪🤪🤪
come back and say
“hey thanks a lot, see you next time”.
And to be clear, it’s a compliment !!!
Chris is just one of those people that knows his business, enjoys talking about it, and is very clear, concise, and entertaining all in one.
Side note:
I set this up in my DAW without his plug-in...
works pretty well !
Honestly, I've never known of anyone so successful yet so WILLING to share the secrets to their craft.
When it's time to retire I could totally see CLA University in the making.
It took me awhile to understand what Chris was saying about using as an insert, but I see now it gives you ultimate control.
I've already used this in session. Client couldn't believe how fast the vocal came together. I was like...me neither. This thing sounds Great! Awesome concept.
I get a kick out of CLAs over the top New York persona. Always entertaining! His interviews are like watching an old Hulk Hogan interview from “Monday Night Raw”. At any moment you expect to hear him say, “ Well ya know Mean Gene, I wanna tell all the Hulk-a-Maniacs out there to exercise, say your prayers, and eat your vitamins”. 😉
Welcome to “Monday Night DAW”🤣
Danny de Vito in Taxi :) or Al Pacino
Lol so true
the real value is the CLA philosophy of mixing reverbs and delays, we can make it easy with Busses in any DAW mixer as chris do at his console. thank u for share this knowledge.
What an amazing personality. Chris is funny and entertaining. Definitely keeps your attention the whole time.
That was great. CLA is a boss. This plugin seriously can't be overstated. It really is Epic.
Bought it and explored it a bit. Great plugin that consolidates some nice delays and reverbs into one plugin. Workflow just got more streamlined. Not for every situation but what it does...it does very well. Thank you CLA and Waves. APPROVED!
"So what is CLA Epic!?"
"Well we've got you down there on the bottom, on the right, and the plugin in the middle, and I'm up at the top....on the right."
Such an awkward beginning 😅
Thank you CLA! You´re the King!
Cool final words. Thx a lot. What a wonderful tool!
I love the CLA way to mix or explain, the way that he`s use it`s so epic. One day I hope mix like you. 🤩🤩🤩
Can;t wait to dig in! Love CLA Bass plugin too!
What an amazing video, and a legend.
keep smashing it out of the park Chris I have you producer pace and all of the one not in it and talk about great thank you and waves , it save hours of time , great job
Thanks guys, great info.
Worth every cent, no matter what the price
those drums and bass sound so good!!!! guitar too...dang!!!
Great session as I had purchased EPIC right went it came out and still gaining an understanding about all the Night Before Christmas CLA Santa Magic! Ciao, ALDO
I came across an ad on craigslist that read: 1 lonely hall looking for some slap. 😂😂😂
GREAT stuff, and great Plugin 👏
Incredible
CLA mixing Three Days Grace - The Mountain (Mixing with the Master series), quote: "The reason I use the Buses also is, if I'm going to EQ eight pairs of guitars, why use eight plug-ins when I can use one? This makes the computer run better and you're using the least amount of plug-ins necessary, okay?" (!!!)
And CLA uses sends in DAW in this course. Only 6 AUX Tracks and Plug-ins. Plate: lexicon 224, Room Reverb: Valhalla, Hall: EMT 140, Slap, Tape, Throw: 3xSoundwoys Echoboy.
Delay sends to Room Reverb -6dB (slap -10dB)
This was really helpful, thank you!
I learned things regardless of the plugin, which I love
CLA is a exceptional sound engineer
I love this plugin. Simple to use because you don’t have to look for among big list of delay and reverb.
This is epic as the name suggest.
Interesting, thanks for doing this. I bought epic when it came out, with the mindset that it duplicated the workflow described in the previous depth videos. It makes sense now that it takes the workflow but changes it to be used in a different way in a DAW, taking out the limitations in the original workflow. The limitations are also good, so it creates more than one way to do it.
Both echosphere and epic sound great, although epic was hammering my older cpu pretty hard. Still, since it sounds good, the workarounds to deal with that are worth it.
Chris is the man !!!
It would be awesome to have the original protools session! Seems like CLA Mixhub and Mixdown is everythere, cool!
Great !!
Very cool tool!!!!!
You know what have been so cool as an additional add on to the EPIC pluign? A hardware contoller like the TC Electronic prodcuts. If they made a controller with motorized faders like a smal surface controller that looked like the pluing, that would have been very useful and cool.
Very useful lesson
Seems to be the best waves plugin EVER!
EPIC
CLA is so crazy entertaining! but honestly, I´m not sure whether he's doing himself a favor, everything he is doing seems so random for me from now on...
Anyhow, was fun watching, and I gave the tool a try...
CLA the Legendary Human Being 😁
Think ill give it demo try looks interesting
10:00 i would say is good because the overview of all reverb settings togheter, don´t need to go to all busses etc
I dont use plugins. But this presentation has convinced me that I must. I was a student when Edison was.
only with plug ins you can use the same feature in different daws for ex.
Dude is a genius. wow
I can't help but think that it's an oversight that when you route a delay to a reverb using the ABCD controls that it prevents the input signal from going directly to the reverbs as well. Thinking about how Chris mixes his vocals, he not only routes his vocal signal to the delays (which are then fed into his 480) but he also sends to his 480 directly from his vocal. It means he's able to balance his vocal to delay and vocal to reverb balances independently. I'm really surprised that it's not possible to do this within the plugin.
happy to inform that the manual disagrees. in the drawing we can see the input going to delays and reverbs both. Page 17 www.waves.com/1lib/pdf/plugins/cla-epic.pdf
Thanks for the question @eatsleepdrums - This is an intentional feature: in fact it’s a requirement defined by Chris Lord-Alge himself: when feeding a delay to a reverb, the reverb should NOT also receive the dry signal. This is in fact how Chris requested to route things in the plug. In his view, routing BOTH dry -> delay -> reverb AND dry -> reverb at the same time doesn’t give great results, so he designed the plugin to omit this sub-optimal option. The goal with CLA Epic is to include only the GREAT options :) We also implemented a unique display (gray rectangle) for a reverb that’s being muted when the delays feeding it are muted. It's even mentioned by Chris at 07:41.
@@waves Thanks for responding. That seems totally at odds with what Chris does on his SSL console but if that's what he wanted in the plugin then who are we to argue with the great man? :)
@@waves i agree with the fact that the reverb is triggered by reflections irl (therefore more natural and better results) but the manual shows two inputs at page 17. Why is that?
@@waves is the same routing concept valid for his signature plugins? I.e if both reverb and delay are on the dry signal feeds only delay that in turn feeds reverb
the way CLA express himself is a show in itself ahah
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🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯
Yo I bought this yesterday and yes epic instantly give dept with a preset , but damn I probably have to put this on a return track if Iam going to use this on multiple tracks one instance kills my cpu
Or you can use his signature plugins (per instrument/vocals) plus his effect signature on each track to get a combination of 3 reverb 3 delays ...as well as instrument-tailored compression, eq and tools. Total of 2 plugins per channel and cpu friendly. It works like a charm once you gain staged, cleaned and balanced your mix. You end up in front of a huge array of signature plugin console style faders allowing you to mix quickly and concentrate on the sound. Try it. It's very intuitive.
" cpu friendly" ? People are complaing .. Was there an update ?
Sarcasm eh? Don't get much of that 'round 'ere...
Version 2 must have knobs for each delays to overdrive them a little bit for harmonic distorted sound. After that with low pass filter we can reach and match the original CLA analog sound.CLA does not distorted his delays maybe but analog devices do.Trust me I can hear it!
Michael Adams, the Waves dude, was kind of giving CLA an attitude sometimes. "SHOW US. Show. Us." Chill, bro. He's gettin' to it.
Agree, I was like damn.
I feel like a 70 year old dialing 0800-buy while watching as seen on TV.
"How many reverbs and delays can you out on before you start running out of cpu?"
As an owner of CLA plugins, including this one, alot more than Epic. CLA's plugins,i love em, but high cpu usage.
“You’re usually like ah it’s not easy how do I address it “ lmao
And I thought I was done buying plugins, since I have the full SSL suite, UC1, UF8, and 360! CLA sold me on this! I used it immediately on a track I was mixing on vocal, and across the drums Master Buss compressor.
Chris, I heard you have my old Master Control 4000E in one of your rooms? True?
Couldn't you, just as suggested, set it as an insert and if your cpu goes to wild you could just freeze or render the effect in place and that would solve the cpu overload?
does anyone know what's the software they use for recording this web section? thanks!
This is epic .... he did us all a great favor with this...thx not only for sharing your knowhow with us..but giving us an affordable opportunity with this
Funny, it always seems he Cant Breath through His Noise:)
little stuffy in the morning or allergies.....he still got his coffee..? but I think you are right....a bit nasal.
One hamburger is not enough. I want four
Fantastic Plugin!....The Breakdown King 🔥💯🔥...Peace Me Lord🔥
Brian!
Coffee!
Sounds Awesome!!! I took advantage of that Black Friday Free Plug but when I opened up Late today it was not in my Account for my new Setup.Ohh well.
@Michael Lindsey If you've signed up to get the free CLA EchoSphere, you should have received an email on Black Friday with the serial number for the free plugin. We suggest checking your email and registering the serial number to your account so you could get CLA EchoSphere for free :) Also, make sure to check your spam/trash folders as well.
@@waves I must have done something wrong. I’ll look deeper and also check the spam. Thank You. 👍
@@waves Found it in my Email today. Thanks. 👍👍👍👍
Very very good tutorial on how to use it.
I want to understand how to use small room reverbs better.
CLA says we can put this on every track
My Computer: No I don't think I will.
This destroys your CPU usage. Busses recommended
That's what I was afraid of.
I wanna get this plug, but I'm pretty sure my 9 year old iMac will punch me in the face if I try.
Gonna mimic this in stock Logic plugs in the meantime
Probably better to use it on three buses, vocals, drums and everything else. You probably don't need 4 different delays and reverbs on every track, I mean that would be a mess on a normal songs thats what 100+ different verbs and 100+ different delays.
or just put it on 5 tracks :)
You'll get 3 instances and your cpu will go on strike.
I’ll probably only have it for vocals on a bus. Valhalla verb or logic verbs are good enough for instruments
720p in 2020 waves?
.."One lonely hall".... hahaha ..Da man!! 43:40
He always seems so pissd of by others ignorance hahaha love it.
I havent found a video that speaks on how to setup automation for CLA Epic with 1 Aux track. I usually have 2 verbs and 2 delays but it seems super difficult please can anyone help?
Not sure if I understand what the problem is exactly. You may want to reach out to their support: www.waves.com/contact-us
I've been looking for something similar. I don't think this was really made with the intention of automation. The official manual has ONE mention of the word 'automation' and doesn't answer your question.
Phil X!!!!
SBS!
while i was having a nap,
could have had a much shorter video:
"Look slap Boom"
22:58 🤔
The EUROPA LUNA
GHOSTS
3 instances and this is cpu spiking Nuendo on a i9 16 core machine. sounds good, but man does it need some optimization in Nuendo..
Hi @CMD Kaboom, please verify that you're using version of Nuendo that is officially supported with our V12 plugins by checking our list of supported host applications: www.waves.com/support/tech-specs/supported-hosts
If you're using a supported version of Nuendo and this issue still occurs, please contact our tech support department directly, they are open 7 days a week and will be more than glad to assist: www.waves.com/contact-us
Have you met FL Studio Patcher geeks?
27:40 "Justin, fresh pot"
no one can teach you how to hear things thats the fact.. and the most important one ... :)
10:25 🤣
27:40
Y’all need to built some plug in that Can compete with Baby Audoo comeback Baby. Way easier than this one ! I love it but is too complicated
Great Show CLA, could be a good plugin, but the ux is a nightmare. 4 delays on one source? ok this explains why I´m not successfull like CLA... Who needs this?
The mix sound a lot like Led Zeppelin, the drums are really booming but they have a great sound.
headphones?
Only K240 and only with channels reversed, apparently. Only other option: a pair of CLA10 strapped to the head :-P
@@_innerscape_ wonder if they are K240s, they look like it.
@@busywl69 they surely look like k240 studio, the modern version with removable cable
@@_innerscape_ surprising to say the very least
@@busywl69 yep, i don't like them. There's people happily mixing on MDR 7506 (massive high shelf with painful resonances)... And CLA loves the NS10... You can get used to anything I suppose...
"Go EPIC or go home"
Ahahahah
And racoons!
GO EPIC OR GO HOME
Always pedagogue and funny
@15:05 - He contradicts himself in this video, posted only one month earlier: th-cam.com/video/8s8olnFY_w0/w-d-xo.html
This video he says it should go as insert on individual tracks.
Other video he says you should not use different reverb and delays on different tracks.
Still a nice looking and sounding plugin.