For people who want the higher portion of the delays to come through, potentially adding a De-esser before your delay in the send chain can give you a tiny bit more wiggle room as far as when the delay vocals will start to poke out of the mix (at least in my experience)
imogen heap has an interesting way to do this also, she copies the vocal and manually slices out all the sibilant and plosives, then feeds that into the delay
I love how you explain not only what to do and how to do it, but more importantly, why? When you understand the concept behind a technique, and what the goal is, then you can apply it in different ways, or perhaps not applying it at all in certain situations that don't call for it, instead of just mechanizing it or copying it. I tend to use the doubler effect on the Waves Manny's delay plugin, which modulates the pitch as well, and really fattens it up. But I like your approach when something more subtle is required. Rolling off those frequencies really does the trick. And that almost goes for all effects, including reverb. BTW, just subscribed. You got it.
Wait... you apply all three approaches together to the track?? 🤯 I use approach 3 on every mix, usually shorter delays and often use a dotted or triplet on the one channel (not saying what I'm doing is right/good). All three seems like it would be busy and aren't you doubling up at least one of the delays (in approach 1 you use a 1/4 delay and then you apply the same delay to one of the channels in approach 3). I will definitely give it a try - creating space for the vocal is so important especially in heavier tracks. Love your channel, your explanation, and the FB group. Thank you!
hey, i’ve watched the video about a month or 1.5 ago and actually tried these delay techniques pretty much exactly the way they are presented here just to test out how they would show themselves in different scenarios straight “out of the box”, and gotta say these points are pretty solid. after that I aimed to bring some of my creative thought to the concept and found that there’s a great trick that may be added on top of any of these delays: basically it’s working separately on the filters (here you use the ones that are provided in delay plugins) as a separate closing step in a chain - use any separate filter, 3rd prty or included in a DAW, that supports sidechain input and feed it with the signal of dry vox, so it responses to its dynamics and moves cutoff frequency reacting to side-chained signal. through experimenting with it i preferred using both HP and LP filters this way. LP can be targeted at frequencies close to what you’ve shown here, and HP - somewhere around the fundamental of a typical vocal performance (~200Hz), setting the amplitude of the filters to move within slight spread of 3-7%, with resonance set for both at around 10%-11% (static value, not affected by side-chain). pretty much worked great with every delay from this video on different vocal tracks in various projects regardless of any input differences. summing up - brightens up the overall vocal performance in a dynamic manner in sync with the elements of a track & filters’ reactive subtle resonant movements add just a sparkle of characteristic sweep to resulting sound image. since the movement is really subtle within the specified few percentage points, it comes across causing no audible harshness to the sound, but rather enriches it. anyway, if anyone would be bored (loool) - feel free to try this out, worked like a charm in all of my tests. it’s highly possible that you will find it to be working as well. Bobby, thanks for the tips, turned out to be useful in my workflow.
An amazing trick could be to use a delay in place of reverb. Having always reverb on each song of your production can be exhausting, you can try to use a very short delay maybe around 30 ms without a lot of feedback but wet and not a lot of low and high end than try to play with delay time 20 to 50 ms and amount of feedback, if it works.....not always ! You will have a kind of reverb but for me with a more natural sound than with a traditional reverb that we hear everywere, exept maybe with a convolution reverb like Altiverb or SonySDE S 777 ( never found one ) Have good time to try unusual things. From Switzerland mountains. 🌲🇨🇭☃️👍❤️
Just found your channel and you´ve got some really good crash course material for many of my favorite VST plugins! I love that you do fair A/B comparisons in your videos, with comparable sound levels instead of showing something unprocessed that sounds low in volume and then the loud processed thing (which pleases most ears and make them think it´s better, cause it´s louder and/or has stronger volume, but probably squashed and undynamic). Just pure gold
Cute! Now automate the sends so that the mix gets more interesting 🤘 I also use a slap back with heavy saturation on it. But never all of them at once... Automate, automate, automate
I know this is a generic answer here but it depends haha. Sometimes the song sounds really good when the harmonies on the sides are really dry and tight. Other times it's cool to give the harmonies a ping pong delay to help make them feel more 3D. Most of the time I would say I probably use a lot of these tricks on the harmonies as well. Hope that helps!
Great videos! I would like to ask you how exactly you reduce the unwanted tails from the vocal delays? The most usual approach is by using a compressor over the delay that is feeded with the original vocal signal, so that this kicks in when the next "Fast" words occur and the delay effect from the previous words is reduced. Is this strategy good ? What settings do you suggest for setting up this kind of compressor ? I found it very hard working due to dynamics of the original vocal signal , that many times either overfeed the compressor or they don't feed it enough so the tails of the delays are randomly addressed in the end :( Thank you in advance~! 🥰
this is fire! ive been trying to use the same reverb as my beats to fit the vocals in but it doesn't work, so i'm going to try this! any extra tips you'd recommend? thanks in advance
Everything in this video will treat ya right. If you want to go deeper, check out the free guide I have in the description! There are a few bonus tricks to try.
Depends! It's a great strategy if you want more clarity with your vocals and then an ambient vocal decay afterwards. But I usually try to keep it simple 🙂
Up until now I've avoided delays or used them sparingly at best relying more on reverbs and have some good results, but also some I haven't been happy with. These tricks give me a much better idea how I can use delay successfully in my music. I've got the H-Series so will try out these tricks with some of my recordings - this is a really good overview on how to use delay - better than I've seen in a lot of other videos....... I feel like I can put this to immediate use. Thanks!
Just found you and watched a couple of your vids. Less is more! A man after my own heart. Just because one can doesn't always mean one should. With all of the tools available to us today it's way easy to over do it and just wash out a mix giving it no punch or definition and we're going "I've got fifteen plugs on this so why doesn't it sound good" lol! I like your approach even tho my music is definitely a different genre, the principles still remain largely the same for a clean punchy defined mix. I only wish I had had these tools when I was doing my first six CD's. We hardly had enough tracks back then to do the job much less the plugins and of course no computer at all. For that matter, the first studio I worked in back in the 60's had two Ampex 2 tracks and we spliced quarter inch tape with a razor blade. Now we have Disney world on a lap top lol! Not quite that simple, but you get the point. Kudos my friend!
Great stuff! Thanks for sharing! Question: if the channel with the delay plugin in it is used for sending just one vocal is it technically the same to adjust the vox send to the delay channel or just move the delay channel fader?
hey i just watched this video today and seems really promising to me but when i'm trying to do this trick in flstudio i felt like it wont work the same i mean loading 3 pluggins in 1 delay send , i was confused by the sound i got, and the way you were rolling back the loudness of each delay as the taste you want, how should i do it ? should i roll back the output knob from each delay to get the same thing u have done ? Or i should take each delay into an individual send ? please help me out .
So clear and easy explained...great vid. But what if a delay doesn't have eq on board? Do you put an eq before or after the delay on the send track? And why not working with an de Esser after the delay to get rid of the"sssss":)? Thanks
I have usually stopped at one delay, and then often when it is supposed to be audible. I will definitely try this trick out! For that larger than live sound I often go with a reverb with a predelay around 125 ms.
I just found you channel and between this and your vocal chain video I've gotten tons of great information. Your C6 settings from your vocal chain just work! Thanks and keep the content coming!
This is great info! Signal chain question: do you send unprocessed vocals to the Aux bus and process them after? Or do the vocals you’re sending to the Aux channels already have compression and EQ on them?
Hi Bobby, just found your channel.. do you have s similar video on how to compress vocals when mixing.. and which of your free plugins on your download list do you advise ffor compressing vocals?
I love your stuff. But i always chuckle when you say "I'm the mixing and mastering engineer at raytown productions". It's like saying youre the mix and mastering engineer of your house 🤣
Sounds nice, I'll have to try #3. Although the vocals in that mix still feel a bit buried and in the background. I like them to be the most important element, top priority. Thanks for the tips
Yes, I understand that makes sense. Many of the top productions usually have very little reverb. A plate reverb is often particularly suitable for vocals as it sounds a bit denser and doesn't emulate these large spaces. An EMT 140 emulation with short delay times, for example
You are truly my Sensei from Today! I learn so much from your videos and i just started watching your channel from yesterday from a random youtube recommendation!
This video made me subscribe. I will definitely use these tips because I love delay. I might never use reverb on my vocals ever again lol just kidding, but delay has always been my favorite out of the two.
Very cool. I did not realize you could have 3 delays all at once. Definitely going to try. Great vid. Vocalist in the song is really great! Cool track.
Great video and very clear demonstrations! I haven't used #3 before, but will definitely give a try in the future. The other two are definite go-to delays for me.
Brilliant expo. Please can you make a video about mixing with micro delays on different instruments such as drums and perc, guitars or whatever elements you think would be best candidates. Many thanks.
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For people who want the higher portion of the delays to come through, potentially adding a De-esser before your delay in the send chain can give you a tiny bit more wiggle room as far as when the delay vocals will start to poke out of the mix (at least in my experience)
Great point! It definitely helps to tuck the delay into the mix more. Thanks for sharing!
This is what stuck it all together. Those harsh frequencies plus not running an extra de esser. Thanks a ton
imogen heap has an interesting way to do this also, she copies the vocal and manually slices out all the sibilant and plosives, then feeds that into the delay
I love how you explain not only what to do and how to do it, but more importantly, why? When you understand the concept behind a technique, and what the goal is, then you can apply it in different ways, or perhaps not applying it at all in certain situations that don't call for it, instead of just mechanizing it or copying it. I tend to use the doubler effect on the Waves Manny's delay plugin, which modulates the pitch as well, and really fattens it up. But I like your approach when something more subtle is required. Rolling off those frequencies really does the trick. And that almost goes for all effects, including reverb. BTW, just subscribed. You got it.
Incredible! Thank you so much! One of the best, most well explained, and actionable tutorials I've seen on youtube. Nice job!
You nailed it in this video. These are all the tricks I needed to understand.
By far the best tutorial about H-delay!⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 1000X thanks Bobby!👌🤩
Wow, even adding this to my playlist to watch all over again should I need refreshment of this knowledge that I got from you.
Wait... you apply all three approaches together to the track?? 🤯 I use approach 3 on every mix, usually shorter delays and often use a dotted or triplet on the one channel (not saying what I'm doing is right/good). All three seems like it would be busy and aren't you doubling up at least one of the delays (in approach 1 you use a 1/4 delay and then you apply the same delay to one of the channels in approach 3). I will definitely give it a try - creating space for the vocal is so important especially in heavier tracks. Love your channel, your explanation, and the FB group. Thank you!
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hey, i’ve watched the video about a month or 1.5 ago and actually tried these delay techniques pretty much exactly the way they are presented here just to test out how they would show themselves in different scenarios straight “out of the box”, and gotta say these points are pretty solid.
after that I aimed to bring some of my creative thought to the concept and found that there’s a great trick that may be added on top of any of these delays: basically it’s working separately on the filters (here you use the ones that are provided in delay plugins) as a separate closing step in a chain - use any separate filter, 3rd prty or included in a DAW, that supports sidechain input and feed it with the signal of dry vox, so it responses to its dynamics and moves cutoff frequency reacting to side-chained signal. through experimenting with it i preferred using both HP and LP filters this way. LP can be targeted at frequencies close to what you’ve shown here, and HP - somewhere around the fundamental of a typical vocal performance (~200Hz), setting the amplitude of the filters to move within slight spread of 3-7%, with resonance set for both at around 10%-11% (static value, not affected by side-chain). pretty much worked great with every delay from this video on different vocal tracks in various projects regardless of any input differences. summing up - brightens up the overall vocal performance in a dynamic manner in sync with the elements of a track & filters’ reactive subtle resonant movements add just a sparkle of characteristic sweep to resulting sound image. since the movement is really subtle within the specified few percentage points, it comes across causing no audible harshness to the sound, but rather enriches it. anyway, if anyone would be bored (loool) - feel free to try this out, worked like a charm in all of my tests. it’s highly possible that you will find it to be working as well.
Bobby, thanks for the tips, turned out to be useful in my workflow.
Awesome to hear that! So glad you found them helpful :)
Awesome tips!! I love H-Delay!!
Great info. Thanks!
This really helps
Good stuff 👍 thank you
Very useful video 👍
So helpful tutorial, thank you Raytown Production.
So helpful
LOVING THE CHANNEL!! Question for this, would you do the three delay trick for lead obviously, but also the backings, harms , doubles, etc?
wow crazy vocalist love the sound!
Nice, going to try this out, sounds clear
Thank you so much
Great tutorial, thanks!
Thanks for your video, awesome content
Great tip, definitely trying it!
i am going to try this out now
amazing video
Awesome tips, thanks bro....
Subscribed, nice video :)
An amazing trick could be to use a delay in place of reverb. Having always reverb on each song of your production can be exhausting, you can try to use a very short delay maybe around 30 ms without a lot of feedback but wet and not a lot of low and high end than try to play with delay time 20 to 50 ms and amount of feedback, if it works.....not always ! You will have a kind of reverb but for me with a more natural sound than with a traditional reverb that we hear everywere, exept maybe with a convolution reverb like Altiverb or SonySDE S 777 ( never found one ) Have good time to try unusual things.
From Switzerland mountains.
🌲🇨🇭☃️👍❤️
Just found your channel and you´ve got some really good crash course material for many of my favorite VST plugins! I love that you do fair A/B comparisons in your videos, with comparable sound levels instead of showing something unprocessed that sounds low in volume and then the loud processed thing (which pleases most ears and make them think it´s better, cause it´s louder and/or has stronger volume, but probably squashed and undynamic). Just pure gold
JOHNY SINS in the right business ! btw great trick .
Lol!
YES !!! 👍
Cute! Now automate the sends so that the mix gets more interesting 🤘
I also use a slap back with heavy saturation on it. But never all of them at once... Automate, automate, automate
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Great trick
Amazing video man! This is the first video that I’ve found that explains this clearly. I am finally confident enough to try this method. Thank you.
this is an awesome technique. thanks Bobby! would you recommend doing this only to the main vocal or to harmonies as well?
I know this is a generic answer here but it depends haha. Sometimes the song sounds really good when the harmonies on the sides are really dry and tight. Other times it's cool to give the harmonies a ping pong delay to help make them feel more 3D. Most of the time I would say I probably use a lot of these tricks on the harmonies as well. Hope that helps!
Great videos! I would like to ask you how exactly you reduce the unwanted tails from the vocal delays? The most usual approach is by using a compressor over the delay that is feeded with the original vocal signal, so that this kicks in when the next "Fast" words occur and the delay effect from the previous words is reduced. Is this strategy good ? What settings do you suggest for setting up this kind of compressor ? I found it very hard working due to dynamics of the original vocal signal , that many times either overfeed the compressor or they don't feed it enough so the tails of the delays are randomly addressed in the end :(
Thank you in advance~! 🥰
ay cubase gang. great video man +sub
Great. would love to know how you processed your vocal .
I got you :)
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why not put a de-esser after your delay?
this is fire! ive been trying to use the same reverb as my beats to fit the vocals in but it doesn't work, so i'm going to try this! any extra tips you'd recommend? thanks in advance
Everything in this video will treat ya right. If you want to go deeper, check out the free guide I have in the description! There are a few bonus tricks to try.
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Do you use side-chain compression after the delay
Depends! It's a great strategy if you want more clarity with your vocals and then an ambient vocal decay afterwards. But I usually try to keep it simple 🙂
Not getting the vocal delay tricks guide
that waves h delay has to one if the noisiest plugins i have ever used, that singer is obnoxious
Up until now I've avoided delays or used them sparingly at best relying more on reverbs and have some good results, but also some I haven't been happy with. These tricks give me a much better idea how I can use delay successfully in my music. I've got the H-Series so will try out these tricks with some of my recordings - this is a really good overview on how to use delay - better than I've seen in a lot of other videos....... I feel like I can put this to immediate use. Thanks!
Thank you so so much for the kind comment. It means the world to me that you are getting something out of the tutorial. Cheers!
Best vocal processing vid I’ve seen. Very very clear.
Perhaps your 1/8th, 1/16th note delay would sound a killer if you give it a slight reverb.
I use to mess up my vocals with delays in trying to figure out what the pros are doing. But this right here is a game-changer for me thanks, man.
She also requested to make it all wet , I don’t mind
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Just found you and watched a couple of your vids. Less is more! A man after my own heart. Just because one can doesn't always mean one should. With all of the tools available to us today it's way easy to over do it and just wash out a mix giving it no punch or definition and we're going "I've got fifteen plugs on this so why doesn't it sound good" lol! I like your approach even tho my music is definitely a different genre, the principles still remain largely the same for a clean punchy defined mix. I only wish I had had these tools when I was doing my first six CD's. We hardly had enough tracks back then to do the job much less the plugins and of course no computer at all. For that matter, the first studio I worked in back in the 60's had two Ampex 2 tracks and we spliced quarter inch tape with a razor blade. Now we have Disney world on a lap top lol! Not quite that simple, but you get the point. Kudos my friend!
Amazing lessons bro, thank you very much🙏🏻🇦🇪
Great stuff! Thanks for sharing! Question: if the channel with the delay plugin in it is used for sending just one vocal is it technically the same to adjust the vox send to the delay channel or just move the delay channel fader?
hey i just watched this video today and seems really promising to me but when i'm trying to do this trick in flstudio i felt like it wont work the same i mean loading 3 pluggins in 1 delay send , i was confused by the sound i got, and the way you were rolling back the loudness of each delay as the taste you want, how should i do it ? should i roll back the output knob from each delay to get the same thing u have done ? Or i should take each delay into an individual send ? please help me out .
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So clear and easy explained...great vid. But what if a delay doesn't have eq on board? Do you put an eq before or after the delay on the send track? And why not working with an de Esser after the delay to get rid of the"sssss":)? Thanks
You can add Eq down your delay very simple
Love the video learn a new way to use delay will be checked no out your video.
what about sidechaining the delay to keep the vocal more present
Great job very simple explaining
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Does anyone create music that is more than screaming to a guitar accompaniment? God, music today sucks
I have usually stopped at one delay, and then often when it is supposed to be audible. I will definitely try this trick out! For that larger than live sound I often go with a reverb with a predelay around 125 ms.
Video coming soon my my reverb tricks 😉
Your technique sounds killer
I just found you channel and between this and your vocal chain video I've gotten tons of great information. Your C6 settings from your vocal chain just work! Thanks and keep the content coming!
Such a great tutorial. Perfectly in depth and informative yet interesting and not too drawn out. Needed this 👌🏾
Excellent but that vocal track made it hard work to listen to!
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Veri nice
Better fix your song sounds like a big fat lie to Rex 😊
Thank you for an excellent video
Excelente. Obrigado pela dica.
When i have mono vocals i always chose mono on the send Fx instead of Stereo. Is that a mistake?
I wouldn't say it's a mistake, but I would DEFINITELY try to use a stereo and experiment with some stereo delays.
How to make vocals sound like midi lol
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This is great info! Signal chain question: do you send unprocessed vocals to the Aux bus and process them after? Or do the vocals you’re sending to the Aux channels already have compression and EQ on them?
I send the processed signal to the effects. Thats how it's routed in cubase for send effects. Great question!
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Hi Bobby, just found your channel.. do you have s similar video on how to compress vocals when mixing.. and which of your free plugins on your download list do you advise ffor compressing vocals?
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I love your stuff. But i always chuckle when you say "I'm the mixing and mastering engineer at raytown productions". It's like saying youre the mix and mastering engineer of your house 🤣
Sounds nice, I'll have to try #3. Although the vocals in that mix still feel a bit buried and in the background. I like them to be the most important element, top priority. Thanks for the tips
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Would you try this in rap/HipHop?
of course!
Very interesting this layering with different delays... so you don't add an reverb?
It depends on the goal, but not usually for vocals! I find reverbs can push the vocalist back into the mix too much for modern music.
Yes, I understand that makes sense. Many of the top productions usually have very little reverb. A plate reverb is often particularly suitable for vocals as it sounds a bit denser and doesn't emulate these large spaces. An EMT 140 emulation with short delay times, for example
You are truly my Sensei from Today! I learn so much from your videos and i just started watching your channel from yesterday from a random youtube recommendation!
What is the plug in you are using?
I have everything listed in the video description for you 🙂
This video made me subscribe. I will definitely use these tips because I love delay. I might never use reverb on my vocals ever again lol just kidding, but delay has always been my favorite out of the two.
Very cool. I did not realize you could have 3 delays all at once. Definitely going to try. Great vid. Vocalist in the song is really great! Cool track.
Thank you. Good and clear explanations. Just like your delays. :)
I use some of these tricks on my delays, but you showed some even better. Thank you.
Amazing vid! Thanks for the gems 💪🏻🔥
Great video and very clear demonstrations! I haven't used #3 before, but will definitely give a try in the future. The other two are definite go-to delays for me.
Excellent explanation, thank you very much for sharing your knowledge, it has been very useful for my learning. Greetings from Argentina
Wow, this demonstration is amazing. It's so informative and well presented. I appreciate you sharing, content quality is well worth the follow.
Brilliant expo. Please can you make a video about mixing with micro delays on different instruments such as drums and perc, guitars or whatever elements you think would be best candidates. Many thanks.
Man i've learned so much from you thanks
This was what I wanted to learn..... never stop learning