My mother took no pills. She just felt off. Went to doctors, doctors, doctors - found nothing. A week in the hospital. Nothing found. She died suddenly 5 months later and I was told she was diagnosed with stomach cancer while in the hospital. My father and I were with her nonstop. That never happened. The death certificate was a novella-length work of fiction. The medical system didn't just fail my mother, it outright killed her after it ripped her off and made tons of money off her pain and suffering. I truly feel for you and your brother. It's a crime what happens to people who trust the medical system.
Last year I decided to go out side to workout and do 30mim of grounding. This January I did my blood work and my vitamin D level was 100, I truly believe it was due to me being outside 5 days a week and grounding my body.
I'm sorry for the loss of your mother Dr Means. The system failed your mother. We are so fortunate to have you pioneering the new generation of medical advice.
The system operates this way by design. It's not a accident nor is it a failure. Unhealthy people are commodities to be exploited under a for-profit model.
Down 160lbs. Fasting insulin is 5.1, A1c down to 5.2 from 6. All other markers looking good. Whole food, fasting, limiting sugar. Pretty amazing. 50-60lbs to go.
You are way too trusting of farmer's markets. I used to have a stand selling honey. All of the vegetable vendors were cheating by selling produce purchased from wholesale markets. I was irritated because customers didn't know. Meanwhile the stuff they sold that they did grow was grown with chemicals not available to commercial growers that are banned in other countries. Many of these say don't harvest until after 14 days after spraying....so okay if you are eating your own produce but man you have to trust the grower. I know this because I was always asked for bees for pollination services and when i would go check their farms, i would see large-scale spraying equipment and say no. This poisons my bees. I have never seen a vegetable growing operation where there was no spraying equipment. Grow your own produce. It is the only way to know. Nb that organic produce is not the same as pesticide free.
So true. My neighbor sells “organic” pickles. He sprays the ground with weed killer prior to planting every year. I’m not sure about other spraying but seeing that chemical added to the ground is enough for me to not eat the product. Yet they’re labeled organic and sold in stores as organic. If I hadn’t seen it with my own eyes I wouldn’t have had a clue.
100% true. There is a produce truck that comes to the public library 3 days a week. One day I decided to visit this truck to buy some tomatoes. I was shocked to see MOST of his products were NOT locally grown. Tomatoes were GMO. I grow tomatoes, so I know my tomatoes. His truck was 90% stuff bought from wholesalers.
The ultimate I impersonal healthcare. Tell a frightened patient they are terminally ill by text message. Apparently they still don't teach people skills in med school. God forbid a doctor has to stay in the room afew extra minutes with a distressed patient who has just been told they are terminally ill. Without exception my oncologist always greets with a smile and a handshake. He has a very tight schedule but is so laid back and relaxed that it always seems like he spends a lot of time with you.
To Dr. Means : despite the horrificly impersonal way she was told of her diagnosis your mother quickly decided how she wanted to spend the last days of her life. She held out against invasive procedures that would not have prolonged life. She was very brave . This must have been a horrible shock, condolences to you , your brother and your dad .
I had nearly killed myself with bad life and diet choices. Overwhelmed organs were shutting down. My doctor gave me stern warning. I radically changed my life and diet, lost 200 lbs. brought my AIC down, and many other positive results of the change. I still remember when my doctor told me how proud he was of my for making life changes....he sadly added, most people just wont change and just want a pill to cure them.
Top 5 Biomarkers of the metabolically healthy: 1. Triglycerides: Under 150 (optimally less than 70) 2. Fasting Glucose: Under 100 (optimally between 65 and 85) 3. HDL Cholesterol: Above 40 in men, above 50 in women (optimally between 60 and 90) 4. Blood pressure: BP less than 120/80 5. Waist circumference: less than 35” in women, less than 40” in men Also important: ApoB Fasting Glucose (especially if neoglucogenisis is causing higher fasting glucose) Uric Acid
@tabularasa820 Thanks so much for that summary. Very helpful! (The BP @ less than 120/80 S/b expressed @ 120/80, or less - not less than 120/80, imo. And then, of course lower than that 120/80 marker could also be problematic.
I love how down to earth and realistic Dr Casey Means is, AND I love how she gives a breakdown in her meals of the value of each nutrient she prioritizes. And thank you for positively shouting out carnivore! Carnivore saved my life and I don’t think I’d be here without it.
Whoop! Whoop! I’m metabolically healthy! Triglycerides 57, glucose 87, HDL 65, waist 29, BP 100/60. If I look at A1C at 5.2 I can work on that number to be better. Time to up my walking game!
Great conversation! You are both doing wonderful work! Thank you for everything you do! You might consider adding chapters to your conversation. They are helpful when coming back to rewatch or when sharing with a friend you know won’t take the time to watch entire conversation. Thank you again. Keep up the great work!
I like the way the rich live, I like the way *I* live when I'm with them! Tons of good advice and observations here but maybe a little too exotic and expensive when it comes to meal planning. I can manage the canned salmon and frozen wild-caught flounder from Aldi and I recently incorporated in a 50/50 mix of pastured and industrial grade eggs to hold down costs. I can't really afford to shell out for any "properly raised" or wild land animals right now, but I try to eat a lot plenty of animal protein that I can afford.
You really have a point though. Even though I enjoy some of this content, most of the recommendations are things I have absolutely no access to. When it comes to getting good protein sources, I’ve lucked out because I live close enough to the market to buy fish and lean protein when it’s on sale.
If you truly cut out ALL the other things though, you have more money for the better things. They are more nutritionally dense and you eat less. I know what you mean though too.
My brother died within 16 days of diagnosis from esophageal/liver cancer last fall. He was 56. Now he had labs revealing issues but he was prescribed meds. It was so sudden and tragic and I know more could have been done for him years earlier.
Comprehensive critical information that everyone should know, put across in such an easily digestible and interesting way, thank you for the amazing work you both do!
I did this testing in Toronto it was game changer for me. My doc refuses to find out what problem is. I did this testing, and the results are awesome. We are fixing these naturally. No hard drugs for me.
Preorder book weeks ago! Just went to site...2 more weeks..I cannot wait!! Watched husband, 51 an daughter, 21 die of progressive disease! All I could do was mostly what doctors told me..hope to never feel that helpless again as when I had to turn off their life supports!
Great conversation - I think it's very important to note that fasting (actually TRE) is easy for healthy people to overdo when you hear about all benefits! If your fasting insulin is around 3 mIU/mL and when you eat a meal with say 50-75g carbs you can barely see a tiny bump on a CGM you really need to carefully consider restricting eating to
Dr Means' story is why we need to STOP glorifying specialists and find good family doctors. The family doctor is supposed to be the one who pulls this all together. But we're all obsessed with specialists.
True! It’s part of the broken medical system. I had so many patients that had about 5-6 different MDs involved in their care and would be hard to have medications decreased if a patient had very low blood pressure. It would be so frustrating for the patient and for the nurse involved in the patients care. They also had no clue what medications they were on and had to go through each and every medication to advocate for the patients health and safety, so they wouldn’t fall due to being dizzy.
What an insightful conversation. It also surprises me how some things are implicit, such as walking more, being active, eating slower and yet our fast pace society has forgotten how basic and fundamental this are.
I recently found Dr. Means, a friend told me about her book. Since then I have been watching more videos about her. You were lucky to have her on your show. I reserved her book “Good Energy” at my local library, sadly I’m 23rd in Q. Worth the wait, I’m sure, but wish I could get it sooner.
New diet pill will cost $16,000 per year! There is no way the average family will be able to afford healthcare in the next couple years. Keep up the great work! I think this is the best healthcare video on TH-cam.
I have SLE and 25 yrs ago was diagnosed with what was then called "Autoimmune fasting hypoglycemia." (First caught on med-monitoring lab work: blood glucose 35!) I went into remission from SLE and moved on with life. Ho hum, symptoms shmiptoms. Fast forward to last year when I got very serious about nutrition. Noticed my glucose would drop low as it used to. What can you do? Added whey protein powder several times a day and saw: WOW! My blood sugar stayed at a nice level in the 70s & 80s. I so wish I had learned that 25 yrs ago. 🥴
2 absolutely cutting edge Dr's, luv Dr Lyons have been watching for couple of years and now to find Dr Casey Means, can't wait to listen to more of her as well. You ladies are the best!!!
I had a great meal last night! Red fish topped with crab meat and spinach with parmesan, all with a buttery sauce. Unsweet tea and my sugar levels stayed pretty level afterwards. I sipped on maybe 3-4 ounces of wine. 😊The Levels APP is great for keeping track of carbs, protein and fiber intake but the CGM has been a game changer. Who knew wheat bread buns on a chicken breast and 10 fries could spike your sugars up like crazy! Stay raw, stay real my friends.
I understand... I had to start out by produce shopping for 'clean 13' & NonGMO only foods then affordable seasonal organics. For breads I changed to sourdough and Ezekiel or sprouted. Hack... the healthier the food, the higher nutrion= need for less of it to be and stay full, NO JOKE, shocking! Family of six, also lots of seasoning and good fats = satisfaction and better health as well
Wow! Dr. Means, I was surprised to hear you say you eat those meats for your protein needs! (not negatively, mind you!) I have heard you say that you were vegetarian on previous podcasts. Anyhow, thanks for what you're doing!
38:07 That's very interesting. I really wonder why exactly may high protein incresese fasting blood sugar? It makes sense to me that after a meal glucose is created from protein for some time. But why would blood sugar levels be elevated (due to Gluconeogenesis) in a fasted state ?¿?
I eat just like this and have high fasting glucose (i dont eat refined foods, simple carbs, refined sugars) and frel like crap. 7yrs ago i began and felt great for 5yrs then something changed but i still do strength training, walking, yoga . Im stumped and so is my ND
A family member just graduated med school. 200 plus pounds. Sugar in her and her family’s diet. 2 Grandmothers can barely move anymore from high carb diet. She drinks buckets of coffee.
The difference I found between the US and places I have travelled overseas - Europe and the Mediterranean area. There are too many fast food places in the u.s. especially in low income areas. I predominately follow a Mediterranean diet from time I spent in Crete when I was in the U.S. military. Getting better food sources in all neighborhoods are KEY. But it is not happening. I eat 4-5 times a day but with smaller portions. Portions are too too big here in the U.S.
People don't cook, don't enjoy preparing meals and don't want to pay for grass fed, wild caught salmon, chia seeds, kombucha and lots of the other foods she discussed. Families of 4 or 5 simply can't afford that and don't have the luxury of spending time shopping at Whole Foods and farmer's markets. It's simply impractical for the average American family that eats spaghetti, Mac and cheese, chicken nuggets and fries because they're cheap, easy meals that the kids will eat. Many doctors such as these women just don't live in reality in suburbia, Southside Chicago or small town Iowa.
There are lots of fast food places of all kinds, healthy and unhealthy. The popular ones thrive, especially the more value oriented stores. That's what people want to buy.@@alanfeuer6337
Komucha and sourkraut are Super easy to make! Water kefir and dairy kefir are as well and if dealing with a sweet tooth. Sweet leaf Stevia drops are amazing! Sweeteners/flavorings for water yogurt and so much more. We have a family of 6, live on scant budget and spend same amount on food items... but choose whole foods, non ĢMO and clean 13 for starters
I'm a 56 yo post menopause. I started with IF 3 years ago and still ate poorly at first, but the window gradually allowed me to feel my food choices and impact. Slowly I increased whole foods, more home cooking, less ultra processed and take out. I added walking. Later I added hormone replacement therapy, and everything improved, especially my sleep and moods. This year I've been adding strength training and lots more veg and protein. My markers are now in those optimal ranges. The changes were slow, but steady -- and best of all, I love food and no longer depend on junk food nor sugar, mostly thanks to time with IF. I eat most days within a 4-6 hour window. I lift 30 minutes 3x per week, focusing on hypertrophy. Super sets are efficient. And I walk, usually 7-10k per day. I've never felt better -- and I never diet, count calories, nor get on a scale. My clothes tell me how I'm progressing. I've not been overweight by more than 5-10 lbs, but I'm excited to see muscle gains and fat loss over the next two years, Lord willing.
Been through plant based, keto, IF then carnivore now trying to get my head around Jay Feldmans work in Bioenergetics(Ray Peat) mitochondrial health impaired by endotoxins (legumes, grains a lot of veg) and PUFAs(omega3 and 6 both to blame, seeds, nuts, salmon, fatty fish, conventional pork and chicken/eggs. I’m so confused and Jay Feldman seems to have the biochem absolutely sorted, ah, what do I eat!
It's the food, it's the food, it's the food.... many doctors for many years have stated this... Dr McDougall, Dr Klaper, Dr Ornish etc etc etc etc... don't confuse it.
It's all good, but what does the average person with a 150$ weekly budget and two kids buy? Certainly not all that organic regenerative farmed stuff.... I try to stick to the frugal equivalent and hope for the best 😅
I love the focus on joyful living, and that well rounded meals with whole foods is being promoted. This can cover a multitude of preferences. By the way, making homemade sauerkraut is the EASIEST thing in the world. There are so many yummy variations. You can make a quart in about 5-10 minutes, let it ferment for a month or two, and enjoy it every day. Cheap, too! I love trying new recipes seasonally. "Mouthwatering Sauerkraut" by Holly Howe is A treasure trove of info and recipes.
Wow!!! I guess I’m in the 2% in all optimal level ranges!! I’m in menopause and 52….Except I need to loose a couple inches in waist. Hahaaa I don’t feel like I’m on top of the world! Just started hormone therapy after 7 years in menopause. I’m excited for my body to feel it’s hormones pulsing through again! So hard to find a menopause specialist. I can’t believe it’s only 7% of the population that’s metabolically healthy crazy!
Any can link or provide more info about fasting glucose levels on a high protein diet. I thought as per this video anything more than 85 mg/dl means higher risk but if you are on a high protein diet having 95 mg/dl is fine. But what is the reason?
Imagining the animal kingdom with “experts” in the field 😂 … Love everything that Dr. Casey Means has to say!! In agreement about our route to healing! Thank you for having her as a guest 🙏🏻
Thank you for the info! Question: was a specific Magnesium supplement discussed? I thought I heard Dr. Means mention a specific form of Magnesium but I can't seem to find it upon re-listening. Can someone help please?
I hear you, and I am surely one of those people. I earned that privilege. But if you truly cut out all those other things, you are buying a lot less things. Imagine no processed anything in your cupboards ? And just all the basics she mentions. You'd be surprised how much you can buy. And when you buy more nutrient dense food too, you do eat significantly less quantity of food. And if you add in the inter.ittent fasting, you cut out an entire meal basically as well. She said ghe average American eats 11x a day. What if you cut that down to 4x a day?
I like that chewing foods 40x before swallowing. I eat my real meals at home because it takes me an hour and a half to finish eating. At work i bring easy to eat nuts and fruits and drink more teas and water.
Is she saying only rich can get healthier? I am refering to her advertised diet of her own. I guess the most unhealthy populations are from lower socioeconomical group , when and how this nutrition talks go to deeper level to cover more socioeconomical classes!
Fresh fruits and vegetables are so much better. I grocery shop sometimes 2x a week. My freezer is empty, i don’t like eating foods out of the freezer, I
You ladies are obviously living very differently than most Americans. Have you ever spent time on the South side of Chicago? In small town Iowa? Nobody is eating grass fed beef, wild caught salmon, chia seeds or drinking kombucha. They can afford and prefer what their kids can eat for $10, like spaghetti, chicken nuggets, mac n cheese and grilled cheese sandwiches. Or what their social security check will allow when you're 68. Study reality for just a short time... most people don't shop st Whole Foods and farmer's markets. They don't buy $2 packs of LMNT or $30 supplements. Pecans are $20 a pound and chia seeds aren't even at Walmart. Have you looked at hospital cafeteria food, school cafeteria food, what's in the average poor person's shopping cart???? People are working 2 jobs, kids are in daycare, school and work use up 75% of our waking time. And, most people barely know how to cook and the rest don't want to. Please venture outside of your ivory tower to see how most people actually live and eat based on high prices and very low budgets. That's what the vast majority of people are dealing with. How many average people of color on the south side or people over 60 are thermal plunging and using red light therapy. Holy moly. You are speaking to the 1%.
True, I do not eat grass fed meat cause I can't afford it. Eat the meat that can be afforded. Ground beef can be cheap, hot dogs, whatever meat that can be gotten on budget is fine and better than the ultra processed crap. I work with a lot of lower income folks helping them be able to eat lower carb and more carnivore. I eat very little nuts and seeds as they are inflammatory and expensive. No legumes and beans here either, glad she can eat them but they inflame me and cause me pain. Food doesn't have to be perfect like they are talking about, but as clean as what can be gotten and focus on animal proteins. I eat very little fish, but canned fish is not expensive and I do have some of those. I supplement omega 3s.
@@Neolifeketoshari I guarantee these girls aren't eating hot dogs, while most of America is. I eat well, but I work with so many people who can't even imagine buying wild-caught salmon for $25/pound. These doctors really need to be figuring out ways to communicate with the people who could MOST use nutritional guidance...poor people, living on food stamps, who are buying Coca Cola, hot dogs, chicken nuggets and hot pockets so their kids are happy and they can scrape buy on a small food budget. Or, the single mom trying to feed and cloth 3 kids while working a part-time job. Hospital cafeterias have some of the absolute worst food imaginable, but these docs can't be bothered to influence even their own work environment, and that's where their 'customers' are forced to eat.
@@giuliam2531 yes! Great way to put it, different grades! Frozen veggies are less expensive than fresh and less likely to have waste making the dollar go further. Ground beef can be cheap and made into many different meals(just watch labels because some in tubes will have fillers) and the 80/20 is even cheaper. Hot dogs, lunch meat, stores like Aldi or Save A Lot, even Walmart, are great places to find great deals. Frozen chicken is generally cheaper and can be made into many meals as well. Canned fish, heck even Spam is better than ultra processed foods! All these foods, while maybe not being the panda massaged meat these ladies are eating, will be better for health and heal metabolic illness. I have 8 kids and I for sure can't afford the foods they are talking about. I get the cleanest "grades" of food that fit my budget. My main thing is not buying ultra processed foods. I think we also need to change the mindset many low income families have(I was raised in a low income family so I get it) and that the governement puts into our minds that because we get foodstamps or other help we are only worth ultra processed foods and the junk food. Also junk is cheaper(but not really cause you eat more and it keeps you hungry more) than good nutrient dense foods.
In my bowls and have just had 9 klg washed out of my bowls I am on meds for BP and heart . I am on a huge amount of pills to sleep and I take lots of vitamins and tissue salts I am 77 what do I do to move my bowls it has been 44:10
Hi since 2012 I’ve been a vegan but I’ve recently started eating eggs and protein powders throughout the years what can you suggest for me to get my protein intake in I cannot eat animal what else can you suggest?
For vegans, I would suggest: tofu, chickpeas, peas, lentils, tempeh, edamame, beans, nuts, seeds and nutritional yeast...and fish, if you eat them. Cheese, yogurts and eggs...if you decide to go vegetarian, of course😊
So we are getting conflicting advice. She is saying, or at least intimating, an intermittent fasting routine of 8/16. Yet other experts, such as Peter Attia MD, Rhonda Patrick PhD, and Don Layman PhD all advise AGAINST intermittent fasting for people middle age and older due to the potential loss of lean muscle mass.
@@softballbryan of course there is a way! If you do not get enough protein, your body will catabolize muscle protein in order to fuel the primary amino acid needs of the body. The liver’s need for protein takes first priority; muscle needs are second. If you do not take in enough protein during your 8 hour eating window, you run a very real risk of losing muscle.
@@ptortland Im assuming people are eating fat and protein with their meals... if they are, they are not gonna metabolize muscle under her eating/fasting windows... if people arent eating protein and fat... good luck with most anything..
Don't make a big deal of intermittent fasting, if one eat decent nutritionally, within the range...it is more than adequate and, no, you don't have to eat 1g protein per lb body weight either...most folks are not maximizing their protein intake either. 0.7/0.8g per lb is good enough for 90% of us. I'd bet most aren't working out 4-5 days a week maximizing our reps and sets either...just do your best, dieting, exercising (and sleep) it's cumulative...
With the CD, my tri/hdl ratio is 0.4mml/l. Can run 15kms. with ease which i haven't done before. If i knew this before, my father could have been alive to date.
I agree with most of what Dr. Casey Means advocates, but I disagree with her stance on the need for a fiber source. Dr. Paul Mason goes into detail behind the science of why fiber isn't great for us. The mainstream health advice to include it in our diet is almost as bad as the narrative to avoid cholesterol and saturated fat. In fact, if you eat enough animal fat alongside with its meat (preferably from ruminants) you'll find that your bowel movements will improve. Kent Carnivore is one but many individuals who has shared how the advice from Dr's to eat more fiber literally wreaked his health (he lost his colon from it, iirc).
I am very interested in your cause! I just signed up for dietetics in school.. was hoping to go a more holistic route with it. Please help me as I need a little direction.. what type of schooling do I need to do with your currently doing??? Please help!! 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Casey lists off LITERALLY the most complicated and expensive list of about 50 foods that make up her diet and then the host comments on how easy it all is. I mean her list includes ground wild hunted elk and venison. 😮😂😢
Casey states that choosing a healthful diet is simple if you just “listen to your body” and not the experts, and “the science “ and then exemplifies the expert class with the most complicated set of food choice and dietary guidelines making this podcast just another in the pile of confusing dogmatic options. Humans are the only species to look for expert advice because other species and ancient humans lived in an environment where the environment dictated available food choices and the species consumed whatever that environment produced. The environment dictated all food choices and determined health in the humans in that environment. We now live in an environment of mostly toxic, artificial, super palatable consumable offerrings in massive abundance all around us and our ability to naturally and intuitively determine what is appropriate food has been robbed. Casey’s “its so simple, listen to your body, by listening to me” becomes part of the din of confusing nutrition advice.
My mother took no pills. She just felt off. Went to doctors, doctors, doctors - found nothing. A week in the hospital. Nothing found. She died suddenly 5 months later and I was told she was diagnosed with stomach cancer while in the hospital. My father and I were with her nonstop. That never happened. The death certificate was a novella-length work of fiction. The medical system didn't just fail my mother, it outright killed her after it ripped her off and made tons of money off her pain and suffering. I truly feel for you and your brother. It's a crime what happens to people who trust the medical system.
So sad, and so sorry for your mom and family. 🙏🏽
Last year I decided to go out side to workout and do 30mim of grounding. This January I did my blood work and my vitamin D level was 100, I truly believe it was due to me being outside 5 days a week and grounding my body.
100 is too high. Vitamin D is actually a hormone and can be toxic in high amounts.
I'm sorry for the loss of your mother Dr Means. The system failed your mother. We are so fortunate to have you pioneering the new generation of medical advice.
We lost our instincts and started to trust advertisements on TV!
The system operates this way by design. It's not a accident nor is it a failure. Unhealthy people are commodities to be exploited under a for-profit model.
Down 160lbs. Fasting insulin is 5.1, A1c down to 5.2 from 6. All other markers looking good. Whole food, fasting, limiting sugar. Pretty amazing. 50-60lbs to go.
way to go, bro!
Keep it up!!!👍
Thank you!
You are way too trusting of farmer's markets. I used to have a stand selling honey. All of the vegetable vendors were cheating by selling produce purchased from wholesale markets. I was irritated because customers didn't know. Meanwhile the stuff they sold that they did grow was grown with chemicals not available to commercial growers that are banned in other countries. Many of these say don't harvest until after 14 days after spraying....so okay if you are eating your own produce but man you have to trust the grower.
I know this because I was always asked for bees for pollination services and when i would go check their farms, i would see large-scale spraying equipment and say no. This poisons my bees. I have never seen a vegetable growing operation where there was no spraying equipment.
Grow your own produce. It is the only way to know.
Nb that organic produce is not the same as pesticide free.
no i don’t go to farmers market because i don’t trust that their veggies and fruits are all organic.
So true. My neighbor sells “organic” pickles. He sprays the ground with weed killer prior to planting every year. I’m not sure about other spraying but seeing that chemical added to the ground is enough for me to not eat the product. Yet they’re labeled organic and sold in stores as organic. If I hadn’t seen it with my own eyes I wouldn’t have had a clue.
100% true. There is a produce truck that comes to the public library 3 days a week. One day I decided to visit this truck to buy some tomatoes. I was shocked to see MOST of his products were NOT locally grown. Tomatoes were GMO. I grow tomatoes, so I know my tomatoes. His truck was 90% stuff bought from wholesalers.
The ultimate I impersonal healthcare. Tell a frightened patient they are terminally ill by text message. Apparently they still don't teach people skills in med school. God forbid a doctor has to stay in the room afew extra minutes with a distressed patient who has just been told they are terminally ill. Without exception my oncologist always greets with a smile and a handshake. He has a very tight schedule but is so laid back and relaxed that it always seems like he spends a lot of time with you.
To Dr. Means : despite the horrificly impersonal way she was told of her diagnosis your mother quickly decided how she wanted to spend the last days of her life. She held out against invasive procedures that would not have prolonged life. She was very brave . This must have been a horrible shock, condolences to you , your brother and your dad .
I had nearly killed myself with bad life and diet choices. Overwhelmed organs were shutting down. My doctor gave me stern warning. I radically changed my life and diet, lost 200 lbs. brought my AIC down, and many other positive results of the change. I still remember when my doctor told me how proud he was of my for making life changes....he sadly added, most people just wont change and just want a pill to cure them.
Top 5 Biomarkers of the metabolically healthy:
1. Triglycerides: Under 150 (optimally less than 70)
2. Fasting Glucose: Under 100 (optimally between 65 and 85)
3. HDL Cholesterol: Above 40 in men, above 50 in women (optimally between 60 and 90)
4. Blood pressure: BP less than 120/80
5. Waist circumference: less than 35” in women, less than 40” in men
Also important:
ApoB
Fasting Glucose (especially if neoglucogenisis is causing higher fasting glucose)
Uric Acid
@tabularasa820
Thanks so much for that summary. Very helpful!
(The BP @ less than 120/80
S/b expressed @ 120/80, or less - not less than 120/80, imo.
And then, of course lower than that 120/80 marker could also be problematic.
My apob is 144 and ldl particle count is 2000.
Uric acid target < 5.5 per Perlmutter
Talk to Dr about that. Those are concerning levels. @@jmw-q4u
You mean fasting insulin 👍👍😏
I love how down to earth and realistic Dr Casey Means is, AND I love how she gives a breakdown in her meals of the value of each nutrient she prioritizes. And thank you for positively shouting out carnivore! Carnivore saved my life and I don’t think I’d be here without it.
This is one of my favorite podcasts. I have listened to it 5 times so far!
Any notes to share?
More DR.s need to start curing disease through food. In most cases that is all that is required to stay healthy.
Casey is super educational, insightful and phenomenal!!
Whoop! Whoop! I’m metabolically healthy!
Triglycerides 57, glucose 87, HDL 65, waist 29, BP 100/60. If I look at A1C at 5.2 I can work on that number to be better. Time to up my walking game!
Instead of walking, investigate adding resistance training.
@@michaelkisil4052 oh I do resistance training too!!
the story about dr means' mom was heartbreaking.
Great conversation! You are both doing wonderful work! Thank you for everything you do! You might consider adding chapters to your conversation. They are helpful when coming back to rewatch or when sharing with a friend you know won’t take the time to watch entire conversation. Thank you again. Keep up the great work!
I like the way the rich live, I like the way *I* live when I'm with them! Tons of good advice and observations here but maybe a little too exotic and expensive when it comes to meal planning. I can manage the canned salmon and frozen wild-caught flounder from Aldi and I recently incorporated in a 50/50 mix of pastured and industrial grade eggs to hold down costs. I can't really afford to shell out for any "properly raised" or wild land animals right now, but I try to eat a lot plenty of animal protein that I can afford.
OMG, get a job! i luv Elk & Bison, and Kobe beef and Iberian Ham and Zebra and Byakuya Ice Cream. canned food is like... for poor people. lol.
You really have a point though. Even though I enjoy some of this content, most of the recommendations are things I have absolutely no access to. When it comes to getting good protein sources, I’ve lucked out because I live close enough to the market to buy fish and lean protein when it’s on sale.
@@chuckleezodiac24you’re a jerk. Even with jobs, not everyone can afford certain levels of food.
If you truly cut out ALL the other things though, you have more money for the better things. They are more nutritionally dense and you eat less. I know what you mean though too.
My brother died within 16 days of diagnosis from esophageal/liver cancer last fall. He was 56. Now he had labs revealing issues but he was prescribed meds. It was so sudden and tragic and I know more could have been done for him years earlier.
So sorry for your loss!
Turbo cancer, new phenomenon since early 2021
I don’t think doctors even ask if the patient has fat belly or acites from alcohol
Because of people like the guest on this episode, Im still alive. Thank you so much, no idea how much you helped me ❤❤
Comprehensive critical information that everyone should know, put across in such an easily digestible and interesting way, thank you for the amazing work you both do!
I did this testing in Toronto it was game changer for me. My doc refuses to find out what problem is. I did this testing, and the results are awesome. We are fixing these naturally. No hard drugs for me.
"Confusion drives the industry." How true it is! Great interview 👍🏻
This is a fantastic discussion! I am as excited to read Dr. Means new book as I was Dr. Lyons book, Forever Strong!
Preorder book weeks ago! Just went to site...2 more weeks..I cannot wait!! Watched husband, 51 an daughter, 21 die of progressive disease! All I could do was mostly what doctors told me..hope to never feel that helpless again as when I had to turn off their life supports!
Great conversation - I think it's very important to note that fasting (actually TRE) is easy for healthy people to overdo when you hear about all benefits! If your fasting insulin is around 3 mIU/mL and when you eat a meal with say 50-75g carbs you can barely see a tiny bump on a CGM you really need to carefully consider restricting eating to
The interview I was waiting for! Thank you!
Dr Means' story is why we need to STOP glorifying specialists and find good family doctors. The family doctor is supposed to be the one who pulls this all together. But we're all obsessed with specialists.
True! It’s part of the broken medical system. I had so many patients that had about 5-6 different MDs involved in their care and would be hard to have medications decreased if a patient had very low blood pressure. It would be so frustrating for the patient and for the nurse involved in the patients care. They also had no clue what medications they were on and had to go through each and every medication to advocate for the patients health and safety, so they wouldn’t fall due to being dizzy.
Hard to find a good doctor that doesn’t go by textbook 🤷.
What an insightful conversation. It also surprises me how some things are implicit, such as walking more, being active, eating slower and yet our fast pace society has forgotten how basic and fundamental this are.
I recently found Dr. Means, a friend told me about her book. Since then I have been watching more videos about her. You were lucky to have her on your show. I reserved her book “Good Energy” at my local library, sadly I’m 23rd in Q. Worth the wait, I’m sure, but wish I could get it sooner.
New diet pill will cost $16,000 per year! There is no way the average family will be able to afford healthcare in the next couple years. Keep up the great work! I think this is the best healthcare video on TH-cam.
Fabulous helpful eye opening conversation… TY ❤️
This Dr. is obviously well versed…but I wish she could have simplified it a tad. But I do appreciate her passion.
You both Dr.Lion and Dr. Casey are amazing, truly gold information , thank
You 🙏🏻 ❤
I have SLE and 25 yrs ago was diagnosed with what was then called "Autoimmune fasting hypoglycemia." (First caught on med-monitoring lab work: blood glucose 35!)
I went into remission from SLE and moved on with life. Ho hum, symptoms shmiptoms.
Fast forward to last year when I got very serious about nutrition. Noticed my glucose would drop low as it used to. What can you do?
Added whey protein powder several times a day and saw: WOW! My blood sugar stayed at a nice level in the 70s & 80s.
I so wish I had learned that 25 yrs ago. 🥴
2 absolutely cutting edge Dr's, luv Dr Lyons have been watching for couple of years and now to find Dr Casey Means, can't wait to listen to more of her as well. You ladies are the best!!!
This is one of my favorite podcasts ever! So much good info about Metabolic health. Thanks so much Dr. Lyon and Dr. Means ❤😊
I had a great meal last night! Red fish topped with crab meat and spinach with parmesan, all with a buttery sauce. Unsweet tea and my sugar levels stayed pretty level afterwards. I sipped on maybe 3-4 ounces of wine. 😊The Levels APP is great for keeping track of carbs, protein and fiber intake but the CGM has been a game changer. Who knew wheat bread buns on a chicken breast and 10 fries could spike your sugars up like crazy! Stay raw, stay real my friends.
Most people can’t afford meat from those sources. We are mostly NOT independently wealthy. We also don’t have farmers markets.
I understand... I had to start out by produce shopping for 'clean 13' & NonGMO only foods then affordable seasonal organics. For breads I changed to sourdough and Ezekiel or sprouted. Hack... the healthier the food, the higher nutrion= need for less of it to be and stay full, NO JOKE, shocking! Family of six, also lots of seasoning and good fats = satisfaction and better health as well
Wow! Dr. Means, I was surprised to hear you say you eat those meats for your protein needs! (not negatively, mind you!) I have heard you say that you were vegetarian on previous podcasts. Anyhow, thanks for what you're doing!
She got schooled by her peers in the need for animal protein it seems
38:07 That's very interesting. I really wonder why exactly may high protein incresese fasting blood sugar? It makes sense to me that after a meal glucose is created from protein for some time. But why would blood sugar levels be elevated (due to Gluconeogenesis) in a fasted state ?¿?
How funny she mentioned sardines and I’m having a sardine sandwich with cherry tomatoes on the side for breakfast!😊
Amazing episode, love it! Learning so much from you! Thank you! ❤❤
I eat just like this and have high fasting glucose (i dont eat refined foods, simple carbs, refined sugars) and frel like crap. 7yrs ago i began and felt great for 5yrs then something changed but i still do strength training, walking, yoga . Im stumped and so is my ND
Excited to get The Dr. Means book that I preordered!!! Come on May 15th ..
A family member just graduated med school. 200 plus pounds. Sugar in her and her family’s diet. 2 Grandmothers can barely move anymore from high carb diet. She drinks buckets of coffee.
Crazy
The difference I found between the US and places I have travelled overseas - Europe and the Mediterranean area. There are too many fast food places in the u.s. especially in low income areas. I predominately follow a Mediterranean diet from time I spent in Crete when I was in the U.S. military. Getting better food sources in all neighborhoods are KEY. But it is not happening. I eat 4-5 times a day but with smaller portions. Portions are too too big here in the U.S.
People don't cook, don't enjoy preparing meals and don't want to pay for grass fed, wild caught salmon, chia seeds, kombucha and lots of the other foods she discussed. Families of 4 or 5 simply can't afford that and don't have the luxury of spending time shopping at Whole Foods and farmer's markets. It's simply impractical for the average American family that eats spaghetti, Mac and cheese, chicken nuggets and fries because they're cheap, easy meals that the kids will eat. Many doctors such as these women just don't live in reality in suburbia, Southside Chicago or small town Iowa.
@@marciamakoviecki3295 but society needs to fix this in the US as in Europe and in Mediterranean countries they do not have so many fast food places.
There are lots of fast food places of all kinds, healthy and unhealthy. The popular ones thrive, especially the more value oriented stores. That's what people want to buy.@@alanfeuer6337
Komucha and sourkraut are Super easy to make! Water kefir and dairy kefir are as well and if dealing with a sweet tooth. Sweet leaf Stevia drops are amazing! Sweeteners/flavorings for water yogurt and so much more. We have a family of 6, live on scant budget and spend same amount on food items... but choose whole foods, non ĢMO and clean 13 for starters
I'm a 56 yo post menopause. I started with IF 3 years ago and still ate poorly at first, but the window gradually allowed me to feel my food choices and impact. Slowly I increased whole foods, more home cooking, less ultra processed and take out. I added walking. Later I added hormone replacement therapy, and everything improved, especially my sleep and moods.
This year I've been adding strength training and lots more veg and protein.
My markers are now in those optimal ranges. The changes were slow, but steady -- and best of all, I love food and no longer depend on junk food nor sugar, mostly thanks to time with IF. I eat most days within a 4-6 hour window. I lift 30 minutes 3x per week, focusing on hypertrophy. Super sets are efficient. And I walk, usually 7-10k per day. I've never felt better -- and I never diet, count calories, nor get on a scale. My clothes tell me how I'm progressing. I've not been overweight by more than 5-10 lbs, but I'm excited to see muscle gains and fat loss over the next two years, Lord willing.
Been through plant based, keto, IF then carnivore now trying to get my head around Jay Feldmans work in Bioenergetics(Ray Peat) mitochondrial health impaired by endotoxins (legumes, grains a lot of veg) and PUFAs(omega3 and 6 both to blame, seeds, nuts, salmon, fatty fish, conventional pork and chicken/eggs. I’m so confused and Jay Feldman seems to have the biochem absolutely sorted, ah, what do I eat!
It's the food, it's the food, it's the food.... many doctors for many years have stated this... Dr McDougall, Dr Klaper, Dr Ornish etc etc etc etc... don't confuse it.
Legendary podcast!!!❤🎉🎉🎉🎉
Source? Does she mean God?
It's all good, but what does the average person with a 150$ weekly budget and two kids buy? Certainly not all that organic regenerative farmed stuff.... I try to stick to the frugal equivalent and hope for the best 😅
I love the focus on joyful living, and that well rounded meals with whole foods is being promoted. This can cover a multitude of preferences. By the way, making homemade sauerkraut is the EASIEST thing in the world. There are so many yummy variations. You can make a quart in about 5-10 minutes, let it ferment for a month or two, and enjoy it every day. Cheap, too! I love trying new recipes seasonally. "Mouthwatering Sauerkraut" by Holly Howe is
A treasure trove of info and recipes.
This is titillating!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Wow!!! I guess I’m in the 2% in all optimal level ranges!! I’m in menopause and 52….Except I need to loose a couple inches in waist. Hahaaa I don’t feel like I’m on top of the world! Just started hormone therapy after 7 years in menopause. I’m excited for my body to feel it’s hormones pulsing through again! So hard to find a menopause specialist. I can’t believe it’s only 7% of the population that’s metabolically healthy crazy!
Exactly where can one find a specialist in hormonal regulation ?
Thank you so much for this
At which age should we stop fasting to keep our muscles? I am 63 years old. Thank you
You would need to build muscle ie strength training, and not just quit fasting fyi
Any can link or provide more info about fasting glucose levels on a high protein diet. I thought as per this video anything more than 85 mg/dl means higher risk but if you are on a high protein diet having 95 mg/dl is fine. But what is the reason?
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So then to be clear, every variance mentioned will no less than DOUBLE the risk of metabolic related diseases, is that correct?
Why not time stamp your videos, you’re big enough to put that effort in. Kind regards
She has 😊
what about access and money to these health modalities we can do ourselves like glucose monitoring?
Imagining the animal kingdom with “experts” in the field 😂
… Love everything that Dr. Casey Means has to say!! In agreement about our route to healing! Thank you for having her as a guest 🙏🏻
Thank you for the info! Question: was a specific Magnesium supplement discussed? I thought I heard Dr. Means mention a specific form of Magnesium but I can't seem to find it upon re-listening. Can someone help please?
Great Video! Two very smart women!!
How long is a fast when fasting for insulin and glucose levels?
Always great guests, great topics, but killin' me with all the commercial interruptions...😢
Very informative and inspiring, however, this is a privileged diet, and many North Americans are struggling to make ends meet.
When you stop buying all crap highly processed and those very expensive fruits and veggies and eat meat with salt and water, you can effort it🎉
@@aleksandrazimpel8097 amen!!
I hear you, and I am surely one of those people. I earned that privilege. But if you truly cut out all those other things, you are buying a lot less things. Imagine no processed anything in your cupboards ? And just all the basics she mentions. You'd be surprised how much you can buy. And when you buy more nutrient dense food too, you do eat significantly less quantity of food. And if you add in the inter.ittent fasting, you cut out an entire meal basically as well. She said ghe average American eats 11x a day. What if you cut that down to 4x a day?
1:10:28: I have a toothbrush that pulses after 2 minutes of cleaning. I now walk around our unit as Im brushing😁
💎 A New gem 💎 🔊🔊
I like that chewing foods 40x before swallowing.
I eat my real meals at home because it takes me an hour and a half to finish eating.
At work i bring easy to eat nuts and fruits and drink more teas and water.
Dr. Ray Peat said this decades ago. His work should be studied by all doctors.
I just GASPED!😤🤯
...At the story about what happened to her Mom😢
Is she saying only rich can get healthier? I am refering to her advertised diet of her own. I guess the most unhealthy populations are from lower socioeconomical group , when and how this nutrition talks go to deeper level to cover more socioeconomical classes!
She said absolutely nothing about rich or poor when it comes to her diet, so no. All the items she shared you can find at many local grocery stores.
How old is Dr Lyon?
So so good!
Fresh fruits and vegetables are so much better. I grocery shop sometimes 2x a week.
My freezer is empty, i don’t like eating foods out of the freezer, I
2 real legends 🎉
Thank you to yalls work on this ...àlso your brother ...Thank Yall so much ...I just wish I learned about this 10 yaars ago
Casey rocks❤
You ladies are obviously living very differently than most Americans. Have you ever spent time on the South side of Chicago? In small town Iowa? Nobody is eating grass fed beef, wild caught salmon, chia seeds or drinking kombucha. They can afford and prefer what their kids can eat for $10, like spaghetti, chicken nuggets, mac n cheese and grilled cheese sandwiches. Or what their social security check will allow when you're 68. Study reality for just a short time... most people don't shop st Whole Foods and farmer's markets. They don't buy $2 packs of LMNT or $30 supplements. Pecans are $20 a pound and chia seeds aren't even at Walmart. Have you looked at hospital cafeteria food, school cafeteria food, what's in the average poor person's shopping cart???? People are working 2 jobs, kids are in daycare, school and work use up 75% of our waking time. And, most people barely know how to cook and the rest don't want to. Please venture outside of your ivory tower to see how most people actually live and eat based on high prices and very low budgets.
That's what the vast majority of people are dealing with. How many average people of color on the south side or people over 60 are thermal plunging and using red light therapy. Holy moly. You are speaking to the 1%.
True, I do not eat grass fed meat cause I can't afford it. Eat the meat that can be afforded. Ground beef can be cheap, hot dogs, whatever meat that can be gotten on budget is fine and better than the ultra processed crap. I work with a lot of lower income folks helping them be able to eat lower carb and more carnivore. I eat very little nuts and seeds as they are inflammatory and expensive. No legumes and beans here either, glad she can eat them but they inflame me and cause me pain. Food doesn't have to be perfect like they are talking about, but as clean as what can be gotten and focus on animal proteins. I eat very little fish, but canned fish is not expensive and I do have some of those. I supplement omega 3s.
@@Neolifeketoshari I guarantee these girls aren't eating hot dogs, while most of America is. I eat well, but I work with so many people who can't even imagine buying wild-caught salmon for $25/pound. These doctors really need to be figuring out ways to communicate with the people who could MOST use nutritional guidance...poor people, living on food stamps, who are buying Coca Cola, hot dogs, chicken nuggets and hot pockets so their kids are happy and they can scrape buy on a small food budget. Or, the single mom trying to feed and cloth 3 kids while working a part-time job. Hospital cafeterias have some of the absolute worst food imaginable, but these docs can't be bothered to influence even their own work environment, and that's where their 'customers' are forced to eat.
@@marciamakoviecki3295 yep, I agree. You can make the foodstamps work to get better foods. But yeah, not the foods they are talking about.
Absolutely agree. Trying to live "healthier" can be different grades of difficulty for different people. Absolutely.
@@giuliam2531 yes! Great way to put it, different grades! Frozen veggies are less expensive than fresh and less likely to have waste making the dollar go further. Ground beef can be cheap and made into many different meals(just watch labels because some in tubes will have fillers) and the 80/20 is even cheaper. Hot dogs, lunch meat, stores like Aldi or Save A Lot, even Walmart, are great places to find great deals. Frozen chicken is generally cheaper and can be made into many meals as well. Canned fish, heck even Spam is better than ultra processed foods! All these foods, while maybe not being the panda massaged meat these ladies are eating, will be better for health and heal metabolic illness. I have 8 kids and I for sure can't afford the foods they are talking about. I get the cleanest "grades" of food that fit my budget. My main thing is not buying ultra processed foods. I think we also need to change the mindset many low income families have(I was raised in a low income family so I get it) and that the governement puts into our minds that because we get foodstamps or other help we are only worth ultra processed foods and the junk food. Also junk is cheaper(but not really cause you eat more and it keeps you hungry more) than good nutrient dense foods.
In my bowls and have just had 9 klg washed out of my bowls
I am on meds for BP and heart . I am on a huge amount of pills to sleep and I take lots of vitamins and tissue salts
I am 77 what do I do to move
my bowls it has been 44:10
Hi since 2012 I’ve been a vegan but I’ve recently started eating eggs and protein powders throughout the years what can you suggest for me to get my protein intake in I cannot eat animal what else can you suggest?
For vegans, I would suggest: tofu, chickpeas, peas, lentils, tempeh, edamame, beans, nuts, seeds and nutritional yeast...and fish, if you eat them. Cheese, yogurts and eggs...if you decide to go vegetarian, of course😊
Beans. And too much protein will degrade your kidneys over time.
I can relate. If I had known about the carnivore diet before, my father could have been alive. 😢
Too many ads…
So we are getting conflicting advice. She is saying, or at least intimating, an intermittent fasting routine of 8/16. Yet other experts, such as Peter Attia MD, Rhonda Patrick PhD, and Don Layman PhD all advise AGAINST intermittent fasting for people middle age and older due to the potential loss of lean muscle mass.
There’s no way a 16/8 eating schedule is gonna eat muscle. No way.
@@softballbryan of course there is a way! If you do not get enough protein, your body will catabolize muscle protein in order to fuel the primary amino acid needs of the body. The liver’s need for protein takes first priority; muscle needs are second. If you do not take in enough protein during your 8 hour eating window, you run a very real risk of losing muscle.
@@ptortland well ok. I’m under the assumption that the human is getting proper protein and fats.
@@ptortland Im assuming people are eating fat and protein with their meals... if they are, they are not gonna metabolize muscle under her eating/fasting windows... if people arent eating protein and fat... good luck with most anything..
Don't make a big deal of intermittent fasting, if one eat decent nutritionally, within the range...it is more than adequate and, no, you don't have to eat 1g protein per lb body weight either...most folks are not maximizing their protein intake either. 0.7/0.8g per lb is good enough for 90% of us. I'd bet most aren't working out 4-5 days a week maximizing our reps and sets either...just do your best, dieting, exercising (and sleep) it's cumulative...
What is Gabrielle routine skin care? she has such a beautiful skin.
Amazing information 🎉thank you so much!! I do my best to consume the 5 pillars and my family. I posted this on my instagram and WhatsApp ❤
With the CD, my tri/hdl ratio is 0.4mml/l. Can run 15kms. with ease which i haven't done before. If i knew this before, my father could have been alive to date.
My diet is almost identical to hers (for the same reasons) and my biomarkers are optimal.
I agree with most of what Dr. Casey Means advocates, but I disagree with her stance on the need for a fiber source. Dr. Paul Mason goes into detail behind the science of why fiber isn't great for us. The mainstream health advice to include it in our diet is almost as bad as the narrative to avoid cholesterol and saturated fat. In fact, if you eat enough animal fat alongside with its meat (preferably from ruminants) you'll find that your bowel movements will improve. Kent Carnivore is one but many individuals who has shared how the advice from Dr's to eat more fiber literally wreaked his health (he lost his colon from it, iirc).
High cholesterol is actually good for
I am very interested in your cause! I just signed up for dietetics in school.. was hoping to go a more holistic route with it. Please help me as I need a little direction.. what type of schooling do I need to do with your currently doing??? Please help!! 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Is just to have a balance diet. Include some weight training for muscle and cardio for your heart health. Everything in America is basically bad.
Casey lists off LITERALLY the most complicated and expensive list of about 50 foods that make up her diet and then the host comments on how easy it all is. I mean her list includes ground wild hunted elk and venison. 😮😂😢
how old ..is old re fasting ?
Fasting is power, which doctors don't want
Casey states that choosing a healthful diet is simple if you just “listen to your body” and not the experts, and “the science “ and then exemplifies the expert class with the most complicated set of food choice and dietary guidelines making this podcast just another in the pile of confusing dogmatic options. Humans are the only species to look for expert advice because other species and ancient humans lived in an environment where the environment dictated available food choices and the species consumed whatever that environment produced. The environment dictated all food choices and determined health in the humans in that environment. We now live in an environment of mostly toxic, artificial, super palatable consumable offerrings in massive abundance all around us and our ability to naturally and intuitively determine what is appropriate food has been robbed. Casey’s “its so simple, listen to your body, by listening to me” becomes part of the din of confusing nutrition advice.
Could you possibly put all of your ads either at the beginning or end? Having an Ad every 10 to 15 minutes really interrupts a good conversation.
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People can choose tongo to alternative health providers tho. Herbalists, homeopaths, kinesiology etc.
OMG ... I'm in the 6%.
Carbs and the processed food industry will save us.