Games Workshop is Selling Tools for How Much? | Models and Memories Weekly #83

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  • @GG-zl3et
    @GG-zl3et ปีที่แล้ว +55

    The costs will be higher as they'll sell a lot of accessories based on convenience. Pop into a shop pick up some models, paints and then grab one of these spur of the moment or after receiving advice from staff on the floor. Lots of people getting into it will go out on a spending spree as well (or their parents will) and buy them to get them started.

    • @petermartin9224
      @petermartin9224 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This is true from what I've seen while in the store.

    • @solouno2280
      @solouno2280 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And here I am trying to catch up with the last pieces of my army

    • @krngameender6820
      @krngameender6820 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This kinda happened to me when I went to my closest warhammer shop for the first time… needless to say I now go to a slightly further away hobby shop that sells things for cheaper and don’t try to get you to buy 100 different things

    • @PopeClemensIIX
      @PopeClemensIIX ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They bet the prices on starters, veterans would never grab one of them for those prices.

    • @dash4800
      @dash4800 ปีที่แล้ว

      what store will tell you to buy GW stuff? Every hobby store I have been to is staffed by actual hobbyists and they would never try to sell you a $35 knife over the $5 one that rational people use. And really they have an incentive to sell you cheap accessories to actually get you to stay in the hobby. If new people come in and are told they need to shill out $150 for some clippers and knife and a drill are they going to be coming back?

  • @BouncingTribbles
    @BouncingTribbles ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I only bought GW tools the first time, but I don't dislike the convenience factor. It's a good lesson too, because I learned quickly to buy my tools from the hardware store

  • @lv100Alice
    @lv100Alice ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Jay sitting in that chair like he have been sitting there for 4 years doing this every week. the set looks great

  • @Chris-xc6fd
    @Chris-xc6fd ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This one has the vibe of a talk show set, Jay is giving me "Conan after he started wearing casual jackets on set"

  • @Retrosicotte
    @Retrosicotte ปีที่แล้ว +4

    While their costs are ridiculous. one thing that I can say in defence of the mould line remover. It's a very safe tool to give to a kid in the hobby to help with their models if they aren't old enough to trust with a knife yet.

    • @proxcess4946
      @proxcess4946 ปีที่แล้ว

      I constantly cut up my fingers like an idiot, works for me too!

  • @tristanlee8495
    @tristanlee8495 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I would assume Attilan is pronounced like Attila the Hun given the visual through line in aesthetic

    • @U2QuoZepplin
      @U2QuoZepplin ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I always assumed the name was inspired by Attila The Hun. So I pronounce it like that. Maybe other people pronounce it differently ?

    • @grokl
      @grokl ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yup it is. Time for history lessons ... LOL :)

    • @Dr.Manninton
      @Dr.Manninton ปีที่แล้ว

      He made me think he was talking about the Atalan Jackals from the Necromunda series

  • @TheDigitalThreat
    @TheDigitalThreat ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Built over 300 models using generic clippers off ebay ($5) [they are still sharp and work fine], a large pack of assorted sand paper grits ($7), a name brand Xacto Handle & blades ($7) and a few Tamiya glue extra thins ($8). Games workshop is drunk, as usual.

  • @justa12packofrccola81
    @justa12packofrccola81 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At the time of commenting, Nick and Jay are the only people on earth to have seen the video in it’s entirety. I love being early

  • @donbuckmaster6922
    @donbuckmaster6922 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man monument hobbies just released a hobby tool package for just over $47 and it includes clippers, hobby knife and 5 blades, mold line scraper, and cutting Matt.

    • @MrUltimategamer44
      @MrUltimategamer44 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Really just dunking on games workshop lol

    • @LCFC81
      @LCFC81 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why's Matt got to suffer, this is like when Will kept getting fired at all over again.

    • @donbuckmaster6922
      @donbuckmaster6922 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LCFC81 lmao

    • @donbuckmaster6922
      @donbuckmaster6922 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrUltimategamer44 did you see the add monument put out with the bundle?

  • @24fretsoffury
    @24fretsoffury ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You can buy excellent clippers in the electrical section of Home Depot. They are literally the same clippers used in cutting phone lines, or cat5 cables. I have a pair from my installation days, and they work perfectly. Like $10-15 for a pair. $50 for a pair is a joke if you know what they are commonly used for.

  • @countmalin70
    @countmalin70 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Gee, Bae , Fey ..... oh its Jay ..... they are Atiilan as in Atilla the Hun :)

  • @iandoddsblah
    @iandoddsblah ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the show, Jay.. it's been a week! And having your chill silliness to unwind to after work is just the ticket.

  • @xthetenth
    @xthetenth ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I absolutely agree that if you want to spend the money that they're asking for the citadel tools, just go shopping for gunpla stuff. I've got a Dspiae clipper and that thing cost less than the GW shears and is very nice and cuts very cleanly. Clippers are the one hobby tool I'd say to not cheap out on if you do have budget. A good sharp pair can make cutting models out and cleaning them up a ton easier to get nice.

  • @tonygreenfield7820
    @tonygreenfield7820 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Mongol Horde look is OK but I seem to recall some artwork of Cadian Rough Riders from a few years ago, and I would have preferred some consistency in terms of look as there are otherwise none of these Mongol guys as foot soldiers. Are they ONLY riders? Agreed I suppose we can transplant Cadian heads but I'm not so sure.

  • @frannyfranfrancis
    @frannyfranfrancis ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Set looks awesome. The chair really suits the mood

  • @sniperlemming
    @sniperlemming ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I saw them on their site the other day and my mouth hit my desk...I was so shocked at the pricing. I swore at my monitor...

  • @serse8455
    @serse8455 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fun fact, the anime girl mascot of the godhand nippers has an official plastic model kit.
    She's also canonically dead btw

    • @JMcMillen
      @JMcMillen ปีที่แล้ว

      That model kit is pretty expensive now that it's been discontinued.

  • @MitsubishiPajeroAus
    @MitsubishiPajeroAus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i remember 4 years ago I went to japan for a few weeks, and while i was there I went to a small hobby shop in akihabara and bought 5 hobby cutters all the same that have no brand on them but they have green handles. Nevertheless im still using one and its been 4 years.

  • @Dreoni_
    @Dreoni_ ปีที่แล้ว

    The old mold line remover is great.... for big model kits/gunpla. You often have big mold lines on panels and having a sturdy blade that doesnt cut is perfect

  • @originalarmedprophet7760
    @originalarmedprophet7760 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I just looked up those dice on Amazon UK - £75! I’ll stick with regular dice 😬

  • @KawaiiAzusa
    @KawaiiAzusa ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Actually this isn't the first time a boxed set team comes out with options not in the box. The phobos space marines can field Reivers, but the sprue provided only makes Infiltrators and Incursors

  • @Bluewater1976
    @Bluewater1976 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use a sharp, pointy, triangle mold line remover from Revell, after I switched blades on both of my hobby knives and thoroughly wrecked my thumb. Didn’t cut my thumb in a year. To the other tools, the Army Painter stuff is affordable and gets the job done well.

  • @sethmccarthy2204
    @sethmccarthy2204 ปีที่แล้ว

    Most channels talk of warhammer in heavily salted opinion with how the game should be. But here, EOB is everything sentimental and special that I like about the game

  • @CocoHutzpah
    @CocoHutzpah ปีที่แล้ว

    For $35 you can get the Tamiya electric handy drill, which is a low rpm drill for plastic. It's even a kit itself and can be painted however you like.

  • @morganvangele5358
    @morganvangele5358 ปีที่แล้ว

    going absolutely nuts for the fireside chat vibe

  • @Eazfb
    @Eazfb ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm one of the few that actually like the mould line remover, it's a handy tool to have around. Is it overpriced? Yes. No question there, but I still like it.
    One good thing about it as well, is that it's childproof. I wouldn't give a young child an exacto knife to scrape of mould lines (even if the exacto knife is dulled down by our standards).

    • @abelpaoli6836
      @abelpaoli6836 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree, it's the only tool I've ever bought from GW.

  • @Snavels
    @Snavels ปีที่แล้ว

    15:40 The Remover was really good for me because when I would use a hobby knife, I'd either carve into the model or cut myself trying to control it

  • @32Loveless50
    @32Loveless50 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    just looked in my rules from Periah Nexus, there are rules for all the 4 Mancers also the Plasmancer.
    BUT i don't know if they will be updating the rules for them.
    but yes if they follow the rules in the other books they will have rules for the others also, or they could be that you need the other rules in addition to the new ones.

  • @TheBrobbiebam
    @TheBrobbiebam ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Regarding KT:
    I like more options. Same with the Phobos Kill Team and the "missing" Reivers.
    The Box would've been way to bloated and therefore expensive if they added all the options. The way its shipped is perfectly fine but I really enjoy exploring the optional stuff :)

  • @chris_dietz
    @chris_dietz ปีที่แล้ว

    I use those bullet dice as wound counters. They're awesome.

  • @D3sToD3s
    @D3sToD3s ปีที่แล้ว +2

    50$ for a clipper? I could just steal some Knipex from my work.

  • @josephskiles
    @josephskiles ปีที่แล้ว

    I use tin snips for sprue removal, an xacto knife and variety of files for clean up. The only unnecessary stupid purchase I made was an army painter wet pallet where I use to use a take out box from Cracker barrel.

  • @oreettroll
    @oreettroll ปีที่แล้ว

    You mentioned never rolling more than 6 dice in Kill Team. I play Compendium Sisters of Battle, and my Sisters Repentia I've rolled 15 dice at a time. They have their own version of Feel No Pain (roll a die for each wound taken, on a 5 or 6, don't take the wound).

  • @The_WarL0rd_Way
    @The_WarL0rd_Way ปีที่แล้ว

    "Spaceshop fly aroundy", more coffee on the monitor! hahahaha! From now on I will call it that.

  • @ronnocrd
    @ronnocrd ปีที่แล้ว

    New couch looks comfy, I like the colour.

  • @HShaud
    @HShaud ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Commissar chibi is basically Raul Julia’s Bison from Street Fighter movie 😂

  • @ethanwhitmore1081
    @ethanwhitmore1081 ปีที่แล้ว

    The "how" always makes me smile.

  • @TheStoicArmyPainter
    @TheStoicArmyPainter ปีที่แล้ว

    those dice are amazing - would make a great gift

  • @BBTactics
    @BBTactics ปีที่แล้ว

    Would love to see you paint up one of (or all three of) the Cryptek models to match your Necron army HQ standard.

  • @dagonmcswain6120
    @dagonmcswain6120 ปีที่แล้ว

    i agree on the cryptec stuff i was a bit bummed i did not have the options

  • @daili4917
    @daili4917 ปีที่แล้ว

    I too cheap out on tools - I got nippers for under £5, still snips plastic. What you don't cheap out on however, is the sofa! Very nice.

  • @kightknight7008
    @kightknight7008 ปีที่แล้ว

    I also like the new studio, much more relaxed

  • @jdeltaalpha5195
    @jdeltaalpha5195 ปีที่แล้ว

    3.99 harbor freight flush cutters + razor cleanup for me. razor doubles as a mouldline remover.

  • @Sharklops
    @Sharklops ปีที่แล้ว

    lol that third chibi.. at first I didn't realize it was holding an orc head upside down and to me it looked like he was playing jai alai with a little green pile of goop or something as the ball

  • @maniaxter206
    @maniaxter206 ปีที่แล้ว

    its good to watch ninjons video on the new gw tools cause it helps to see how good/bad they are

  • @Blueveincheese
    @Blueveincheese ปีที่แล้ว +1

    woah woah new set piece? jay you spoil us!

  • @Krasher247
    @Krasher247 ปีที่แล้ว

    having rules for the chronomancer makes it playable in kill team again as it was previously available from the pariah nexus kill team box from kill team 1 :D but was left out as an option to choose in the compendium in kill team 2 in the necron section, which has left the necrons to be rather bland for kill team 2

  • @johnnnysilverhand9819
    @johnnnysilverhand9819 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice couch set up

  • @madbanditgaming8788
    @madbanditgaming8788 ปีที่แล้ว

    As long as the team it comes with works, more rules for kill team is always good. I feel like some of the teams are kind of cramped, so more options, even if not immediately provided, is cool.

  • @rpgmusik2172
    @rpgmusik2172 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm sticking to x-acto knives and the same kind of xcelite clippers that I use at work

  • @mr.potato2223
    @mr.potato2223 ปีที่แล้ว

    OOOOOOOOOOH
    the tip detaches from the spear and then explodes
    I thought it was like one of those mine sticks

  • @isupposethisismynmw640
    @isupposethisismynmw640 ปีที่แล้ว

    Atillan Rough Riders, Jay. Atalan is the GSC Jackals

  • @nahboh1897
    @nahboh1897 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the scraper just because of the curve

  • @dennisvantol
    @dennisvantol ปีที่แล้ว

    Pressed play;
    First thought: new set…!
    Second: I like it!
    Keep it up! 👍
    Cheers!

  • @fallstar7013
    @fallstar7013 ปีที่แล้ว

    Couple of coats of lacquer will preserve those copper tips for longer.

  • @newtybot
    @newtybot ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw those flush cutters that workshop sells and I wanted one so I bought a 1 dollar pair from Walmart and filed it down into a paper thin blade and it’s great and 9 times cheaper lol

  • @braedonmcphedran6668
    @braedonmcphedran6668 ปีที่แล้ว

    The commisar looks like he's just picked the guardsmans to execute to raise morale

  • @farcommunicator8058
    @farcommunicator8058 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For $40 you can get some premium Knipex cutters made in Germany and (I think) has a lifetime warranty. Knipex tools are literally the best cutters I have ever used, and unless you are cutting chunks of concrete and rebar you will literally never need another set (unless you are obsessed with tools like myself).

    • @MrUltimategamer44
      @MrUltimategamer44 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are they good for old metal models as well?

    • @CMTechnica
      @CMTechnica ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrUltimategamer44 yes. The metal models are made of pewter, an extremely malleable metal. Cutting it won’t be an issue, I’d just be careful of damaging the blades.

  • @alexbarnes2904
    @alexbarnes2904 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video, well done!
    I would love to see some Age of Sigmar content on this channel. I just started getting into it, and I really love it!

  • @nathanielsmith6262
    @nathanielsmith6262 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lovin the professional lookin style!

  • @Bungawunga1923
    @Bungawunga1923 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you have to buy hobby branded knife, then you can just get the army painter hobby knife. It's pricey for being what it is (a really comfy exacto knife), but the design is really comfy, it comes with a decent amount of blades, its chunky so for me with larger hands it's realy comfortable, and it's less than 20 dollars

  • @s2ubuhobbies128
    @s2ubuhobbies128 ปีที่แล้ว

    Reading about the dice the copper is electroplated and not painted so it should be permanent unless you use harsh chemicals on them

  • @aristotle29
    @aristotle29 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't bring those dice through an airport security checkpoint. They look like bullets and there is a pretty good chance that security won't let you travel with them.

  • @maxwellware6855
    @maxwellware6855 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know I was upset when I figured out that the Phobos kill team box doesn’t have Reivers in it, even though they’re on the Phobos kill team. However, I think that including all of the faction options, even if they aren’t in the box, is ultimately a good thing. The compendium teams are quite bad compared to the newer box set and White Dwarf teams, and I want to see my favorite models with good rules ASAP, even if I have to buy them separately

  • @bobwhitelock8589
    @bobwhitelock8589 ปีที่แล้ว

    The phobos strike team was the same as the necrons, they have rules for reivers but there are none in the box.
    I like the extra options and can see why they didn't include them, as would be too much plastic Vs other teams, but having to buy more than one extra box for a bespoke team would be excessive. Needing to buy 2 boxes though is no different to other teams like vet guard, where you need 2 boxes anyway for a full roster

  • @danny131boy131
    @danny131boy131 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice couch Jay!

  • @sellis5716
    @sellis5716 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the new couch

  • @L0rd_Ju66y
    @L0rd_Ju66y ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm looking forward to buying the superfine clippers. 😩

  • @squigmugz6355
    @squigmugz6355 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great episode. I would love it if you did more AoS stuff plz. I just started a sons of behemat army, an army of 4 dioramas :P

  • @AveryangryF22raptor
    @AveryangryF22raptor ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I need those dice as a gun nerd I need them so I can put them next to bullets and casings

  • @jazzydominion1411
    @jazzydominion1411 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice couch!

  • @mycatistypingthis5450
    @mycatistypingthis5450 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like these Pistoleers and Outfiders. Freeguild could use a new kit.

  • @robhooper1352
    @robhooper1352 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the new set!

  • @CaimZheit
    @CaimZheit ปีที่แล้ว

    You could onestly use the chibi grey knight in your arms

  • @epiccgamner3567
    @epiccgamner3567 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jay I love your couch

  • @84jesterx
    @84jesterx ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm just waiting for the boarding actions terrain set.

  • @crosslayment2542
    @crosslayment2542 ปีที่แล้ว

    The dice bullets are cool but if you are throwing 30 of them you ant to see immediatly what number it is, it's kinda hard if the number is written on it and in a pretty dark color too.

  • @funghazi
    @funghazi ปีที่แล้ว

    I gotta say, Godhands are worth it, at least the high end ones. They've lasted me six years of perfect cuts, I've just been sure to keep the cap on and have been sure not to drop them.

  • @OurCognitiveSurplus
    @OurCognitiveSurplus ปีที่แล้ว

    “I don’t know if you can roll more than 6 dice in a game of killteam”
    *deathguard has entered the chat*

  • @ChibsterofNurgy
    @ChibsterofNurgy ปีที่แล้ว

    Every book I've read so far in 40k universe has different battle regiments mixing. Cadians with Mordian or Valhallans isn't crazy. I think it's fine that the rough riders don't look anything like the standard troop choice. As far as I know, Cadians wouldn't ride horses if sentinels, leman russes or baneblades are an option.

  • @kredelmann
    @kredelmann ปีที่แล้ว

    Shadowvaults is not the first box with rules for models not in the Box. Moroch has rules for Reivers (not in the Box), Moroch and Octarius has rules for more Models than are actually inside the Box (not sure if that counts for this argument)

  • @helotaxi
    @helotaxi ปีที่แล้ว

    The inclusion of a chuck, does not make up for the otherwise horrible ergonomics of the pin vise drill. Trying to put the nut for the chuck in the middle of the handle makes the thing essentially unusable for its intended purpose. The collet version was slightly less convenient when switching bits, but at least it did the job well once the bit was installed.

  • @Sleeper_6875
    @Sleeper_6875 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn Jay looks fine in this lighting

  • @jasonbeasy6007
    @jasonbeasy6007 ปีที่แล้ว

    Chibi penitent engine is something I need

  • @komma8203
    @komma8203 ปีที่แล้ว

    I already own two of each of those cryptec's that there are rules for in the box so i dont care since i have the models. But it kinda sucks for those that dont and want to use them. They got to buy them extra. Heard the box was sold out from gw already before release

  • @gregpower308
    @gregpower308 ปีที่แล้ว

    Charge of the Light Brigade 40k style.

  • @bucketmonkeys
    @bucketmonkeys ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Nick andJay!

  • @U2QuoZepplin
    @U2QuoZepplin ปีที่แล้ว

    I obviously badly want a squad of twenty or thirty of these Atilan Rough Riders but they aren't likely to be cheap

  • @danielortizmacia3393
    @danielortizmacia3393 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Since the "upgrade" sprue of the Necrons only gives an Aprentek (because the Deathmarks new faces are just new visuals), I will use my Plasmancer as an Aprentek, and my Royal Warden as the "Immortal leader". I think it's great for us Necron Players that we can proxy the full team with our 40k stuff and play a new Team without spending more money, but I get the complaints about the upgrade sprue feeling a bit lazy by GW

  • @odharrison23
    @odharrison23 ปีที่แล้ว

    That’s a nice couch.

  • @ryc03
    @ryc03 ปีที่แล้ว

    huh, didn't realised GW does chibi models. I would love to see a chibi Tau Crisis Battle suit

  • @sjaakninaber4989
    @sjaakninaber4989 ปีที่แล้ว

    That scion chibi looks like evil morty

  • @DD-jj2tc
    @DD-jj2tc ปีที่แล้ว

    Check out the tamiya hobby drill

  • @Josh24861
    @Josh24861 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice chair

  • @SrAntonio301
    @SrAntonio301 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    6:55 those are crimson fists not imperial fists bruh

  • @stargazer79
    @stargazer79 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Atlanta Rough Riders", perhaps?

  • @theorkinquisitor
    @theorkinquisitor ปีที่แล้ว

    The Christmas thing

  • @kcamii8313
    @kcamii8313 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you heard of The drowned Earth miniature game? What do you think of it? Please do a review of some of the miniatures!

  • @BanzaiM50
    @BanzaiM50 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't think it has Plasmancer mostly because it is attached to that weird royal court sprue from indomitus

  • @gunrobot
    @gunrobot ปีที่แล้ว

    The Commissar is totally Skinner from Ratatouille