I have never ever watched anything like this with so much clarity and proper explanation on double slit experiment. Almost everything have been explained except what if there are more then one observer, observes it as the gentlemen had pointed out lastly. Thank you !
This speech satisfied my 76 year old longing for a lucid and logical explanation on a simple but profound topic - Brahma Satyam, Jagat Mithya. Thousands of Pranams for you and for That which chanced upon an opportunity to watch your video. The highly logical New-Gen Youths should be exposed to the content of this video.
Beautiful explanation. One thing I want to add is though science is helping us to understand reality as Vedanta does yet consciousness is something beyond the intellect and has to be experienced. You leave the mind and merge into oneness when the experience happens. This cannot be experienced through intellect
Highly spiritual and establishing logical relationship of Spirituality with modern Science. Two things matter:Observer and Consciousness. Our visionary Rushis possessed both. As teacher and student of Physics(engineer as well!😊),I feel We are just beginners to observe things consciously. Great speech.Simplicity is the highest form of shopistication. Thanks for sharing. तत् त्वम असी।🙏🪔🕉️ उज्जवल धोलकिया
Very rightly explained. The other negative comments is misleading..there are many theories and videos already exist explaining the same principle🎉🎉..thank u for such nice explaination
So beautiful. It is great to appreciate and start thinking the Indian way. Indian thinking of consciousness make sense and can truly make peace, shanti shanti shanti
Well done bravo We youths are finally hopeful That finally Bigyana is trying to understand Adhyatma We need more scientists to come up with the discussion
Congratulations for your efforts. I add my observations in this regard. 1. In the whole observation the role of space is ignored. 2. Consciousness or intelligence i.e., Gnana is filled all over. Including electrons and particles are its products. 3. The intelligence plays its part in the evolution of the Universe. This explains the weird behaviour of electrons in the presence of observer. 4. I believe adaita vedanda gave logical explanation to everything. I am an ardent follower of this. Thank you for igniting these thoughts.
I am 64 now. Was an Arts student with curiosity for science in later years. Was not very interested in our ancient philosophy and heritage. Now for the last 10 years I am getting more and more curious towards our precious scriptures. When I came to know that physics novel laureates of the twentieth century like Neils Bohr, Ervin Schrodinger, Warren Hasenburg and a large no. of world famous philosophers were so much impressed with our philosophy, I just pitied myself and my ignorance. And the more we are learning into quantum science, the more we are getting into ADWAITA VEDANTA.
Great video and fantastic presentation. One comment: Neils Bohr and Heisenberg studied Vedas as Sanskrit was very popular among European academics. Question. Why do se see interference pattern in the first experiment when there was an observer?
maybe because expecting was there for observing particle behaviour. I wonder why particles or wave have to show opposite behavior everytime intention or expectation is set in.
Nice indeed. To get a glimpse of Vedanta in the language of modern science - relativity and quantum mechanics- in simple mathematics coupled with intuition pls refer the book SPACETIME AND THAT BEYOND By Unnikrishnan.
Nice talk. Modern science discoveries are not discoveries, they are just wasting time and catching up with facts long ago established by sages in india.
Wonderful explanation of a very complicated theory in simple words 🙏 As rightly said, Vedanta and Quantum physics if work together can produce results which may be helpful to the whole humanity. As seat of Vedanta, is work happening in Indian universities in this direction?
Explanation is clear and exciting. But we missed the actual point of waves or particles that appear before camera / detector / observer. I think some information is missing. I checked Madam Archana's another video on Biocentrism where similar idea is expressed.
Hello mam, Why we need Hubble and jws. We are seeing or observing new frontiers, When we sleep and dream do we launch Star ✨ ship. To live a decent Life we need money roof food clothes and maintain them... Out of 1.5 billion how many can do this single handed? I don't know about you? Best regards 😊
The statement "I am consciousness" links together two ideas, "I" and "consciousness", using a mechanism called "am". As nothing fragmented is real, not-2, even "I am consciousness" is unreal, dreamt. What is prior to consciousness? What is before identification? What believes in consciousness, other than consciousness? What is Parabrahman?
Excellent session mam and would like to attend these kind of sessions personally..if we start thinking at quantum leval or indeapth vedanthik lelevl we can also cure lot of diseases 👌
I believe vedanta is true, yet what good is it for the rabbit to realize it is one with the snake, or the man one with his murderer? Furthermore is it not implied in the doctrine of Hinduism is that the goal of existence is to realize unity with the godhead by seeing through the veil of Maya that there is any separation in between one creature and another? If so wouldn't this realization bring an end to all life as the lion could no longer eat the caribou the snake the rabbit and so on ending the food chain which perpetuates life on Earth? How could this be good? This channel is my very favorite of all on the subject of Hinduism. Thank you very much for taking the time to make these wonderful videos, I can't tell you how much I appreciate it❤
Maam this is brilliant..you should go through Physicist Tom Campbell and his My BIG TOE and his set of metophors of virtual reality..I think the word dream has been over used and can be a bit simplistic..just like this existence doesn't exist without a observer the virtual reality also doesn't.. these metophors explain the nature of this reality better than dream..
the consciousness we refer to is as opposed to the unconscious state , both of which are products of the brain mind derivation and which doctors test for in neurological patients . the consciousness under discussion is awareness without the burden of experience and FROM which particles= material=cognizance =sense organ perceivable existence . subtle to gross. un manifest to manifest . the transition happens by observation preceded by intent .the 2 need not be temporally synchronous. looks like it just boils down to 1 principle ie intent .
Namaste ma'am 🙏 I am a student of Sanatana philosophy, a practicing Hindu and an ardent follower of you ma'am. Could you kindly let me know which event this was, when and where it was held please...thank you and Namaste ma'am 🙏
Hard problem of consciousness is a burning RESEARCH topic. Kashmir Shaivism has a different concept of Universe. Universe and God both are real. Spanda Karika describes Waves of Consciousness. Observer is observed explained very clearly by Jiddu Krishnamurti. Drig-Drsya-Viveka of Adi Sankara. More recently Rupert Spira in his book "The Nature of Consciousness (Essays on the Unity of Mind and Matter)" has explained very clearly AWARENESS and CONSCIOUSNESS.
The first questioner is not yet answered. You said the particle the knows the other pair is been observed. It means the particle got some sense of mind.
Pathma ( Malesia ) A Brief on Advaita in Siddhanta Vedanta is considered as the culmination of Vedas. Similarly, Saiva Siddhanta is considered as the culmination of Saiva Agamas. It is for this reason Siddhanta is sometimes referred to as ‘Agamanta’. Unlike the Vedanta, Saiva Siddhanta considers three kind of relationship of God with the Soul. God is one with the Soul, along with the Soul, and different from the Soul. This aspect of relationship in three states (onraai, udanaai, veraai) is the Advaita relationship mentioned in Siddhanta philosophy. The three kinds of relationship of God to the soul can be explained with an analogy. The Soul is one with our physical body. Similarly God is one with the soul. The soul is along with the body and animates it. Similarly God is along with the soul and animates it. Yet the soul is different from the body. Similarly God is different from the Soul. The second Aphorism of SivaJnanaBodham speaks of the Advaita relationship in Siddhanta philosophy as follows: “The primal Being, God, is non-separable from the souls, being one with them, different from them and making them to take births and deaths ceaselessly, experiencing the fruits of the twin karma. This is done by His Sakthy who is eternally in implicit union with Him.” (Dr. K. Ganesalingam) The above is a concise summary of the similarities and differences between siddhanta and vedanta over the term advaita. As one can readily see, siddhanta is far more sophisticated, and in fact bridges non-dual, dual and plural relationships of god, soul and the world. Siddhanta is not different from vedanta, just more sophisticated in explaining the relationship of the triad. Which is why sages and scholars say vedanta is general and siddhanta is specific. This makes vedanta dated, passe, and well, obsolete, as we have moved far forward from being mere simplistic. Additionally, the explanations of the three-fold relationships within siddhanta gives rise to monistic theism (advaita isvarapada) and pluralism, although both agree on all the points, that souls are beginningless, that there is actual embodiment (sariraka) of the soul and disembodiment. In my opinion Meykandar's philosophy, insofar as the relationship between god and soul, is not pluralism but a unique monism or advaita. Kauai Aadheenam calls it 'advaita isvarapada' or monistic theism. It is non dual. At the same time since there is Isvara, a Personal God, there is dualism, and as there is padam, there is worship which makes it outright dualism as the path or marga. In the beginning there was neither existence nor non existence. Nothing was there. Suddenly Brahma and Vishnu sprang forth from Nowhere, and were wondering who they were, and from where did they come from, what they should do, and whether they should create the world, and if so, who should do it. Then they were astonished to see an infinite linga of light arise from the Nowhere. So they decided to find its origin and ends in order to prove their own greatness. Today, like the two gods, scholars want to do the same thing. They want to 'measure' god, find the ends, figure out and map the entire route, leave no mystery behind, no stone unturned. Isn't this what all philosophers do - try and 'measure' God? We are the 'gods' searching for causes and reasons for creation, and just how exactly dissolution is going to take place, all in minute detail, step by step, frame by frame detail, with ample footnotes thrown in. Even Brahma and Vishnu couldn't and surrendered in abject humility. Only then He revealed Himself to them, and even after that, the gods could not describe it for the benefit of us all, for posterity. We better do the same thing. I propose we too surrender so that He may reveal to us. It seems like a wiser idea. There is an area, the state called parasiva, which cannot be explained. In this transcendent state no one can even say if God exists or not, or if soul exists or not, let alone the relationship is one or two. In this area, it's best to leave it as an inexplicable mystery that only Rudra the Dissolver would know. The same logic applies in that matter of creation of souls and worlds. We will only end up with very logical and rational explanations but based on non falsifiable postulates. Since creation is very difficult to explain, we *might* have a better chance at exploring dissolution. Understanding cosmic dissolution may give us some understanding on creation. We observe atrophy in this universe and its logical to infer that dissolution in the world is already taking place. We are well into mahapralaya. The texts tells us that all including the gods and all iconic forms will dissolve into that great Nothingness, the inexplicable parasiva. At that point only Rudra exists, and there will be no one to ask Him any questions, like, why? There will be no one to observe what He does after absorbtion. And how long the period of rest lasts. This does not arise as time and space too will be absorbed. And whether there will be any re-creation, and if so, how exactly Rudra does it. Nobody knows. The questions don't arise as there is no one around to ask and record for posterity, and accordingly there are no answers. The same applies on creation. This is where we must stop the 'measuring'. The ends - creation and dissolution should always remain as the mysteries of god, and not as subjects of philosophies.
"Consciousness is all there is" --Dr. Tony Nader MD, PhD What is essential, though, is the direct experience of Atma, unlocalized unbounded Consciousness!!! Through Transcendental Meditation a person can transcend, or go beyond, all localized objects and thoughts to experience the Pure Consciousness (Shuddha Chaitanya) at the source of thoughts.
A human brain saying "I am conscious", or an A.I. computer saying "I am conscious", or even PRINT "I am conscious", what's the difference? It's all software, a model. As incomplete as any recipe. Where's the manufacturing, the hardware? At the deepest level, what's DOING, what is EXECUTING, what is CALCULATING?
In the double split experiment when the observer sees there are two lines as the observer believes the electron is a particle. What if the observer is a child who has been taught and convinced that electron is a wave, will this influence the result?
The answer is that the observed is only the projection of observer which is consciousness. So everything has the same characteristics of consciousness.
In philosophy, this theory is nothing but epistemological idealism. Idealism is an epistemological theory which speaks of an external object depending upon the knowing subject.-Dr.H.L.Chandrashekara,retd prof of Philosophy, university of Mysore
This detector / camera taking role of observer and particles automatically sensing that something observing them is not clear. Particles / waves / electrons - how can they sense the observer / detector / camera ? Is it science fiction?
This raises a lot of questions. Who is the speaker and what's her qualifications to talk about such deep topics as quantum physics and duality? Scientific papers go thru peer review before publication? Was there anything like that here? Who reviewed? Finally who is the audience and what was the purpose? If I read the comments on this board it is scary. These are some of the most educated and scientifically trained. Still lacks critical thinking which should be the path and the goal of science and education
still cant understand delayed choice experiment with entangled particles....... what in future i DO NOT observe the other pair of the entangled particle at all... using detector... will i still see particle behavior on the screen? (bcos i can technically keep postponing my detection of the green particle endlessly) how will the red particle be conscious enough to predict the future..... will that mean... entangled particles always have particle nature ( NO WAVE NATURE)....bcos, some time in the future its twin will/may be observed????
Some one in comments suggested maya is not proper word but temporary extstance should be proper word for maya. I dont agree as drashya vision is not only thing encompassed by maya but many more things like words... Communication... Time.... Space.... So on that create plenty of illusions.... Your temporary existance is just beginning. Vedanta has many more ideas to offer to this infant conciousness studies with the help of quantum physics.
Please pardon my ignorance ..still..I'll ask. The camera takes the picture of the particles. if the interference of the energy around the particles creates the parallel patterns, Is it possible that the cameras back then could only detect particles and the not the waves? or is it possible that the position in which the camera was placed changed the pattern of dipersement? Einstein's argument of the presence of the moon sounds more logical.Also, according to science matter came into existence first followed by conscious beings..right?
This detector / camera taking role of observer and particles automatically sensing that something observing them is not clear. Particles / waves / electrons - how can they sense the observer / detector / camera ? Is it science fiction?
What is definition of consciousness? Don’t know? Not just replacing with another word? Consciousness …simple awareness…..definition?….means boundaries….not vague and indefinite
Fantastic! However, it is ONLY consciousness that is conscious. Even living things are not conscious. It is Consciousness that witnesses their activities.
We need a conscious observer to bring a particle into reality/existence. And so consciousness is creating this universe. But then who is creating the delusion or maya? We humans are unaware of our awareness who or what is keeping it that way?
So In the double-slit experiment, particles behave differently when observed. In Advaita Vedanta, it's suggested that Brahman, or God, is the ultimate observer of the universe, implying that consciousness plays a role in the behavior of particles. ??? So brahman is observing the universe ad thats why alll the particles are held up this way ?
Everything religious scripture claims that it's already explained in them,but then why the people compare with real science, why they don't extract from their scriptures and show the world that all the present knowledge is already been known to them and why they independently put it into practice and develop required technology
This only proves the duality of some Indian scientists. They can be brilliant and idiots at the same time. The most important word in 'not locally real' is 'local'. She conveniently skipped it😱
"Locally" is how classical physics perceives the universe . 2022 nobel prize has proven that it's not locally real, which in turn means that in layman terms, the universe, as we understand now is not real. So I don't see her misleading anyone
The two principles of quantum physics that you claim are not the principles of quantum physics. Universe is not real - where did that come from ? Quantum physics doesn't claim this. I myself have doctorate in Quantum field theory and I think you are misrepresentating ideas of quantum physics to say the least. By doing this you are insulting not only physics but of advait vedanta which is the epitome of spirituality and stands on its own feet. There is no need for advait vedanta to find support in physics which is merely a science of material world.
Do you take scientific American seriously 😂😂. Anton zellinger is famous for his conversations with Dali lama he knows easter mystic tradition, christinianity also posits this view even more logically and Universe is real both Vendata and all other ways are wrong @@MAdhawanPRakash
If scientists are confused they wil understand if not today tomorrow , what ever whether particle physics or quantum physics it is matter only , matter is not influenced by observer s thinking . TO THE UNIVERSE IS NOT REAL IS NOT REAL ✅😂😂
Bhagavad Gita Upanishads Buddha No birth. No atma. No rebirth. No reincarnation. No Nirvana, no moksha, no kaivalya. Born. Die. That's all. Like all animals. That's all.
😂😂😂 Rejected concepts of quantum physics….Vedanta and quantum physics have no relation…It may be give an idea that doesn’t mean quantum reality and consciousness concept (vedanta) are same…Vedanta is rejected by even buddha…
The argument is not sufficient. Even when the particle behaving as particles or waves the ultimate observer called the ultimate Brahman consciousness was there in the experiment atmosphere. Still something is missing. The dreamer has the inherent genetically memory or the memory acquired by external experiences, otherwise his mind blank. Dear madam this is just an effort to celebrate that we know it all already .. sorry we don’t buy this.
😂 But this is not what Vedanta philosophy says .... Even not Shankar. World is real World is real World is real. Why should we need to talk about Non- Reality of this World even if so. 😂😂 What good does it make to prove world is unreal, even if its proved with in this unreal world.😂😂😂😂
"Locally" is how classical physics perceives the universe . 2022 nobel prize has proven that it's not locally real, which in turn means that in layman terms, the universe, as we understand now is not real. So I don't see her misleading anyone
I have never ever watched anything like this with so much clarity and proper explanation on double slit experiment.
Almost everything have been explained except what if there are more then one observer, observes it as the gentlemen had pointed out lastly. Thank you !
Probably the simplest, clearest, easiest to understand explanation of the quantum principle & it's relation to Advaita Vedanta... 🙏🙏🙏
This speech satisfied my 76 year old longing for a lucid and logical explanation on a simple but profound topic - Brahma Satyam, Jagat Mithya. Thousands of Pranams for you and for That which chanced upon an opportunity to watch your video. The highly logical New-Gen Youths should be exposed to the content of this video.
Beautiful explanation. One thing I want to add is though science is helping us to understand reality as Vedanta does yet consciousness is something beyond the intellect and has to be experienced. You leave the mind and merge into oneness when the experience happens. This cannot be experienced through intellect
Brilliant presentation....Our sages were true scientists...
Highly spiritual and establishing logical relationship of Spirituality with modern Science.
Two things matter:Observer and Consciousness.
Our visionary Rushis possessed both.
As teacher and student of Physics(engineer as well!😊),I feel We are just beginners to observe things consciously.
Great speech.Simplicity is the highest form of shopistication.
Thanks for sharing.
तत् त्वम असी।🙏🪔🕉️
उज्जवल धोलकिया
Brilliant Demonstration !!!
Good effort to explain a very complex subject... Many such events n speakers have tried and this was a successful one! Good job
Archana your wonderful explanation make me understand a very complex concept . Thank you and wish you do a lot
Very rightly explained. The other negative comments is misleading..there are many theories and videos already exist explaining the same principle🎉🎉..thank u for such nice explaination
Amazing talk Archanaji. Doing sravanam and manamam on pancadasi now and I can totally relate this talk to it. Thanks for sharing this with us.
Superb lecture... I was totally absorbed... though I knew the things elaborated but the simplified concepts were really class...
So beautiful. It is great to appreciate and start thinking the Indian way. Indian thinking of consciousness make sense and can truly make peace, shanti shanti shanti
Well done bravo
We youths are finally hopeful
That finally Bigyana is trying to understand Adhyatma
We need more scientists to come up with the discussion
Congratulations for your efforts. I add my observations in this regard.
1. In the whole observation the role of space is ignored.
2. Consciousness or intelligence i.e., Gnana is filled all over. Including electrons and particles are its products.
3. The intelligence plays its part in the evolution of the Universe. This explains the weird behaviour of electrons in the presence of observer.
4. I believe adaita vedanda gave logical explanation to everything. I am an ardent follower of this.
Thank you for igniting these thoughts.
Wonderful lecture, Always ur fan ma'm❤
Bro observer is not the same as consciousness.
I am 64 now. Was an Arts student with curiosity for science in later years. Was not very interested in our ancient philosophy and heritage. Now for the last 10 years I am getting more and more curious towards our precious scriptures. When I came to know that physics novel laureates of the twentieth century like Neils Bohr, Ervin Schrodinger, Warren Hasenburg and a large no. of world famous philosophers were so much impressed with our philosophy, I just pitied myself and my ignorance. And the more we are learning into quantum science, the more we are getting into ADWAITA VEDANTA.
Great video and fantastic presentation.
One comment: Neils Bohr and Heisenberg studied Vedas as Sanskrit was very popular among European academics.
Question.
Why do se see interference pattern in the first experiment when there was an observer?
maybe because expecting was there for observing particle behaviour.
I wonder why particles or wave have to show opposite behavior everytime intention or expectation is set in.
👋Really it is a great way of explaining the Double Slit Experiment . Thanks for providing such a wonderful demo with deep clarification
Again thanks for a very good explanation. I’ve not heard of the dream state being explained the way you do it here.
Nice indeed.
To get a glimpse of Vedanta in the language of modern science - relativity and quantum mechanics- in simple mathematics coupled with intuition pls refer the book
SPACETIME AND THAT BEYOND
By Unnikrishnan.
Truly a detail:ed, wonderful and insightful lecture 🙌🏽
So wonderfully explained!!
Beautiful & cohesive deliberation.
Beautifully explained ma’am, thank you very much 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
🙏🙏🙏🙏 Madam we need a million more people like you. Is it too much to ask for?.
Nice talk. Modern science discoveries are not discoveries, they are just wasting time and catching up with facts long ago established by sages in india.
Wonderful explanation of a very complicated theory in simple words 🙏 As rightly said, Vedanta and Quantum physics if work together can produce results which may be helpful to the whole humanity. As seat of Vedanta, is work happening in Indian universities in this direction?
beautifully done! simply wonderful.
I UNDERSTOOD WHAT THE LADY DR. MEANT. BUT IT IS STLL MIND-BLOWING EXPERIMENTS. NOW I DOUBTED MY RELIGEOUS BELIEF.
Explanation is clear and exciting. But we missed the actual point of waves or particles that appear before camera / detector / observer. I think some information is missing. I checked Madam Archana's another video on Biocentrism where similar idea is expressed.
Thank you so much for uploading this.would also like to hear the other speakers whom you were referring to .Koti koti pranam
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Hello mam,
Why we need Hubble and jws.
We are seeing or observing new frontiers,
When we sleep and dream do we launch Star ✨ ship.
To live a decent Life we need money roof food clothes and maintain them...
Out of 1.5 billion how many can do this single handed?
I don't know about you?
Best regards 😊
Superb lecture madam🙏🙏🙏
The statement "I am consciousness" links together two ideas, "I" and "consciousness", using a mechanism called "am". As nothing fragmented is real, not-2, even "I am consciousness" is unreal, dreamt.
What is prior to consciousness? What is before identification? What believes in consciousness, other than consciousness? What is Parabrahman?
Excellent session mam and would like to attend these kind of sessions personally..if we start thinking at quantum leval or indeapth vedanthik lelevl we can also cure lot of diseases 👌
Consciousness is happening within itself as being everything that it's not in only its own capacity as knower, perceiver and experiencer.
Again an another excellent vedio by this channel. Congratulations!
Such a amazing talk so clear and lucid really great work archu
From the discussion, questions emerge that Is Consciousness unified or divided? Does each concious entity see wave or particle at the same time.
Explained very well
Brilliant. Thank you so much
Have you had a personal experience of the reality beyond duality? Can you suggest methods to do that?
please read Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi's "Who Am I" essay.
It is not an object that can be discussed. It is the very subject. It can only be realised. Vedantas are pointers only.
I believe vedanta is true, yet what good is it for the rabbit to realize it is one with the snake, or the man one with his murderer?
Furthermore is it not implied in the doctrine of Hinduism is that the goal of existence is to realize unity with the godhead by seeing through the veil of Maya that there is any separation in between one creature and another?
If so wouldn't this realization bring an end to all life as the lion could no longer eat the caribou the snake the rabbit and so on ending the food chain which perpetuates life on Earth?
How could this be good?
This channel is my very favorite of all on the subject of Hinduism. Thank you very much for taking the time to make these wonderful videos, I can't tell you how much I appreciate it❤
Maam this is brilliant..you should go through Physicist Tom Campbell and his My BIG TOE and his set of metophors of virtual reality..I think the word dream has been over used and can be a bit simplistic..just like this existence doesn't exist without a observer the virtual reality also doesn't.. these metophors explain the nature of this reality better than dream..
the consciousness we refer to is as opposed to the unconscious state , both of which are products of the brain mind derivation and which doctors test for in neurological patients . the consciousness under discussion is awareness without the burden of experience and FROM which particles= material=cognizance =sense organ perceivable existence . subtle to gross. un manifest to manifest . the transition happens by observation preceded by intent .the 2 need not be temporally synchronous. looks like it just boils down to 1 principle ie intent .
Namaste ma'am 🙏
I am a student of Sanatana philosophy, a practicing Hindu and an ardent follower of you ma'am. Could you kindly let me know which event this was, when and where it was held please...thank you and Namaste ma'am 🙏
Mam, Vedanta says "You are not doer". Can you prepare video on that please ?
Hard problem of consciousness is a burning RESEARCH topic.
Kashmir Shaivism has a different concept of Universe. Universe and God both are real. Spanda Karika describes Waves of Consciousness. Observer is observed explained very clearly by Jiddu Krishnamurti. Drig-Drsya-Viveka of Adi Sankara. More recently Rupert Spira in his book "The Nature of Consciousness (Essays on the Unity of Mind and Matter)" has explained very clearly AWARENESS and CONSCIOUSNESS.
The first questioner is not yet answered. You said the particle the knows the other pair is been observed. It means the particle got some sense of mind.
Pathma ( Malesia )
A Brief on Advaita in Siddhanta
Vedanta is considered as the culmination of Vedas. Similarly, Saiva Siddhanta is considered as the culmination of Saiva Agamas. It is for this reason Siddhanta is sometimes referred to as ‘Agamanta’.
Unlike the Vedanta, Saiva Siddhanta considers three kind of relationship of God with the Soul. God is one with the Soul, along with the Soul, and different from the Soul. This aspect of relationship in three states (onraai, udanaai, veraai) is the Advaita relationship mentioned in Siddhanta philosophy.
The three kinds of relationship of God to the soul can be explained with an analogy. The Soul is one with our physical body. Similarly God is one with the soul. The soul is along with the body and animates it. Similarly God is along with the soul and animates it. Yet the soul is different from the body. Similarly God is different from the Soul.
The second Aphorism of SivaJnanaBodham speaks of the Advaita relationship in Siddhanta philosophy as follows:
“The primal Being, God, is non-separable from the souls, being one with them, different from them and making them to take births and deaths ceaselessly, experiencing the fruits of the twin karma. This is done by His Sakthy who is eternally in implicit union with Him.” (Dr. K. Ganesalingam)
The above is a concise summary of the similarities and differences between siddhanta and vedanta over the term advaita. As one can readily see, siddhanta is far more sophisticated, and in fact bridges non-dual, dual and plural relationships of god, soul and the world. Siddhanta is not different from vedanta, just more sophisticated in explaining the relationship of the triad. Which is why sages and scholars say vedanta is general and siddhanta is specific. This makes vedanta dated, passe, and well, obsolete, as we have moved far forward from being mere simplistic.
Additionally, the explanations of the three-fold relationships within siddhanta gives rise to monistic theism (advaita isvarapada) and pluralism, although both agree on all the points, that souls are beginningless, that there is actual embodiment (sariraka) of the soul and disembodiment.
In my opinion Meykandar's philosophy, insofar as the relationship between god and soul, is not pluralism but a unique monism or advaita. Kauai Aadheenam calls it 'advaita isvarapada' or monistic theism. It is non dual. At the same time since there is Isvara, a Personal God, there is dualism, and as there is padam, there is worship which makes it outright dualism as the path or marga.
In the beginning there was neither existence nor non existence. Nothing was there. Suddenly Brahma and Vishnu sprang forth from Nowhere, and were wondering who they were, and from where did they come from, what they should do, and whether they should create the world, and if so, who should do it. Then they were astonished to see an infinite linga of light arise from the Nowhere. So they decided to find its origin and ends in order to prove their own greatness.
Today, like the two gods, scholars want to do the same thing. They want to 'measure' god, find the ends, figure out and map the entire route, leave no mystery behind, no stone unturned. Isn't this what all philosophers do - try and 'measure' God? We are the 'gods' searching for causes and reasons for creation, and just how exactly dissolution is going to take place, all in minute detail, step by step, frame by frame detail, with ample footnotes thrown in.
Even Brahma and Vishnu couldn't and surrendered in abject humility. Only then He revealed Himself to them, and even after that, the gods could not describe it for the benefit of us all, for posterity. We better do the same thing. I propose we too surrender so that He may reveal to us. It seems like a wiser idea.
There is an area, the state called parasiva, which cannot be explained. In this transcendent state no one can even say if God exists or not, or if soul exists or not, let alone the relationship is one or two. In this area, it's best to leave it as an inexplicable mystery that only Rudra the Dissolver would know.
The same logic applies in that matter of creation of souls and worlds. We will only end up with very logical and rational explanations but based on non falsifiable postulates. Since creation is very difficult to explain, we *might* have a better chance at exploring dissolution. Understanding cosmic dissolution may give us some understanding on creation.
We observe atrophy in this universe and its logical to infer that dissolution in the world is already taking place. We are well into mahapralaya. The texts tells us that all including the gods and all iconic forms will dissolve into that great Nothingness, the inexplicable parasiva. At that point only Rudra exists, and there will be no one to ask Him any questions, like, why? There will be no one to observe what He does after absorbtion. And how long the period of rest lasts. This does not arise as time and space too will be absorbed. And whether there will be any re-creation, and if so, how exactly Rudra does it.
Nobody knows. The questions don't arise as there is no one around to ask and record for posterity, and accordingly there are no answers. The same applies on creation. This is where we must stop the 'measuring'. The ends - creation and dissolution should always remain as the mysteries of god, and not as subjects of philosophies.
"Consciousness is all there is"
--Dr. Tony Nader MD, PhD
What is essential, though, is the direct experience of Atma, unlocalized unbounded Consciousness!!! Through Transcendental Meditation a person can transcend, or go beyond, all localized objects and thoughts to experience the Pure Consciousness (Shuddha Chaitanya) at the source of thoughts.
A human brain saying "I am conscious", or an A.I. computer saying "I am conscious", or even PRINT "I am conscious", what's the difference? It's all software, a model. As incomplete as any recipe. Where's the manufacturing, the hardware? At the deepest level, what's DOING, what is EXECUTING, what is CALCULATING?
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In the double split experiment when the observer sees there are two lines as the observer believes the electron is a particle. What if the observer is a child who has been taught and convinced that electron is a wave, will this influence the result?
What does Roger Penrose think about all this?
Is there any connection between ashtavakra Gita advaita vedanta,and kakbhisandi philosophy..kindly please make a video on this topic.
The answer is that the observed is only the projection of observer which is consciousness. So everything has the same characteristics of consciousness.
In philosophy, this theory is nothing but epistemological idealism. Idealism is an epistemological theory which speaks of an external object depending upon the knowing subject.-Dr.H.L.Chandrashekara,retd prof of Philosophy, university of Mysore
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This detector / camera taking role of observer and particles automatically sensing that something observing them is not clear. Particles / waves / electrons - how can they sense the observer / detector / camera ? Is it science fiction?
This raises a lot of questions. Who is the speaker and what's her qualifications to talk about such deep topics as quantum physics and duality? Scientific papers go thru peer review before publication? Was there anything like that here? Who reviewed? Finally who is the audience and what was the purpose? If I read the comments on this board it is scary. These are some of the most educated and scientifically trained. Still lacks critical thinking which should be the path and the goal of science and education
What questions have raised in your mind, tell that first... You r not explaining, where she is wrong, but u r questioning about her qualification...
The peer reviewed papers often get rejected and something new comes up. Nothing ever changed in the ancient knowledge established by sages
still cant understand delayed choice experiment with entangled particles.......
what in future i DO NOT observe the other pair of the entangled particle at all... using detector...
will i still see particle behavior on the screen? (bcos i can technically keep postponing my detection of the green particle endlessly)
how will the red particle be conscious enough to predict the future.....
will that mean... entangled particles always have particle nature ( NO WAVE NATURE)....bcos,
some time in the future its twin will/may be observed????
Where is the center of reality?
Look Mandukya upanishad karika from Gaudapada, presented by Svami Sarvapriyananda. Gaudapada is father of Advaita, guru of Shankaracharya guru.
Some one in comments suggested maya is not proper word but temporary extstance should be proper word for maya. I dont agree as drashya vision is not only thing encompassed by maya but many more things like words... Communication... Time.... Space.... So on that create plenty of illusions.... Your temporary existance is just beginning. Vedanta has many more ideas to offer to this infant conciousness studies with the help of quantum physics.
in the double split experiment, is it not the scientist who observes both the particle and the wave patterns?
Where can I find the video related to experiment on 'deep sleep experience and its parallels with quantum physics'?
It's - Double Slit Experiment Not Deep Sleep.
Please pardon my ignorance ..still..I'll ask. The camera takes the picture of the particles. if the interference of the energy around the particles creates the parallel patterns, Is it possible that the cameras back then could only detect particles and the not the waves? or is it possible that the position in which the camera was placed changed the pattern of dipersement? Einstein's argument of the presence of the moon sounds more logical.Also, according to science matter came into existence first followed by conscious beings..right?
This detector / camera taking role of observer and particles automatically sensing that something observing them is not clear. Particles / waves / electrons - how can they sense the observer / detector / camera ? Is it science fiction?
One does not need a space ship to travel to the center of the universe. Transcending ones breathe is enough
great conversation and insights mam !!but we should keep distance from pseudoscience from pure science &vedanta ...
Sister, if I want to meet you where can I meet u
What is definition of consciousness? Don’t know? Not just replacing with another word? Consciousness …simple awareness…..definition?….means boundaries….not vague and indefinite
But why vedadanta scholars don't know this explanation before quantum theory came to light
Fantastic! However, it is ONLY consciousness that is conscious. Even living things are not conscious. It is Consciousness that witnesses their activities.
We need a conscious observer to bring a particle into reality/existence. And so consciousness is creating this universe. But then who is creating the delusion or maya? We humans are unaware of our awareness who or what is keeping it that way?
We are not only aware, but aware of our awareness. Maya is ignorance or seeing something as something else.
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So In the double-slit experiment, particles behave differently when observed. In Advaita Vedanta, it's suggested that Brahman, or God, is the ultimate observer of the universe, implying that consciousness plays a role in the behavior of particles. ???
So brahman is observing the universe ad thats why alll the particles are held up this way ?
A quantum-based language indicating that we are the ones creating this 3d manifested reality (my perspective). 🙂
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Watch for clear answer Robert spira and Done Hoffman video
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Everything religious scripture claims that it's already explained in them,but then why the people compare with real science, why they don't extract from their scriptures and show the world that all the present knowledge is already been known to them and why they independently put it into practice and develop required technology
Than why so many rituals n idols worshipping?
Idols are not idols at all. Only true Hindu can experience it. Manifestation of BrahmAn is subjeçtive. Atman the soul has to evolve.
@@vgym2236 My answer has everything. Read btw the lines.
'Observer' in quantum physics doesn't mean consciousness.
By Consciousness she meant that simple observation, witness, simple awarness
This only proves the duality of some Indian scientists. They can be brilliant and idiots at the same time. The most important word in 'not locally real' is 'local'. She conveniently skipped it😱
"Locally" is how classical physics perceives the universe . 2022 nobel prize has proven that it's not locally real, which in turn means that in layman terms, the universe, as we understand now is not real.
So I don't see her misleading anyone
I want a pretty Indian girl just like you. TY for sharing your beauty and your mind.
Live a life. Hinduism , Buddhism good.
Dr Carl Sagan & Dr Richard Dawkins-Sun 🔆🌞
Earth 🌎🌍 .
మీరు తెలుగువారు.మాతృభాషలో కూడా మీ వీడియోస్ డబ్ చేస్తే బాగుంటుంది అండి.
Vedas explored the world 197 crores years ago.Material world is not real revealed by vedas 197 crores years ago.
I am Hindu.
The two principles of quantum physics that you claim are not the principles of quantum physics. Universe is not real - where did that come from ? Quantum physics doesn't claim this. I myself have doctorate in Quantum field theory and I think you are misrepresentating ideas of quantum physics to say the least. By doing this you are insulting not only physics but of advait vedanta which is the epitome of spirituality and stands on its own feet. There is no need for advait vedanta to find support in physics which is merely a science of material world.
She quoted the references in the first 2 minutes itself
Maybe you should present your view point from quantum perspective.
Do you take scientific American seriously 😂😂. Anton zellinger is famous for his conversations with Dali lama he knows easter mystic tradition, christinianity also posits this view even more logically and Universe is real both Vendata and all other ways are wrong @@MAdhawanPRakash
If scientists are confused they wil understand if not today tomorrow , what ever whether particle physics or quantum physics it is matter only , matter is not influenced by observer s thinking . TO THE UNIVERSE IS NOT REAL IS NOT REAL ✅😂😂
You are wonderful.
Bhagavad Gita Upanishads wonderful.
But all copies from Buddha
Bhagavad Gita Upanishads Buddha
No birth. No atma. No rebirth. No reincarnation.
No Nirvana, no moksha, no kaivalya.
Born. Die. That's all. Like all animals.
That's all.
😂😂😂 Rejected concepts of quantum physics….Vedanta and quantum physics have no relation…It may be give an idea that doesn’t mean quantum reality and consciousness concept (vedanta) are same…Vedanta is rejected by even buddha…
Buddha who created Buddhism know nothing. He comes up with his own bs.
The argument is not sufficient. Even when the particle behaving as particles or waves the ultimate observer called the ultimate Brahman consciousness was there in the experiment atmosphere. Still something is missing. The dreamer has the inherent genetically memory or the memory acquired by external experiences, otherwise his mind blank. Dear madam this is just an effort to celebrate that we know it all already .. sorry we don’t buy this.
What will you buy instead
😂 But this is not what Vedanta philosophy says .... Even not Shankar. World is real World is real World is real. Why should we need to talk about Non- Reality of this World even if so. 😂😂
What good does it make to prove world is unreal, even if its proved with in this unreal world.😂😂😂😂
By the way I am follower of Acharya Shankar. And i believe this World as real.
मिथ्या में कुछ भी सिद्ध कर लो , मिथ्या ही रहेगा न 😂 😄
“Not locally real” is quite different from saying “the Universe is Not Real”. No scientific foundation for this talk.
Wait for another 100 years and the next Nobel prize will go to somebody who proves that the entire universe is not real 😂
"Locally" is how classical physics perceives the universe . 2022 nobel prize has proven that it's not locally real, which in turn means that in layman terms, the universe, as we understand now is not real.
So I don't see her misleading anyone
Brahman appears as world.
It is not necessary to praise Vedanta...Quantum physics will take many more years to understand.....There could be something beond Quantum level.....
Praise or no praise, doesn't matter!!...Such scientific discourse (on reality and consciousness) always leads us to Advaita Vedanta...any which way!