Hello lovely people, I recorded this video a day after completing a 24 hour livestream so... I realise I am not at my most eloquent here :3 I hope you enjoy all the same! Speaking of livestreams, I'll be raising money all month over on Twitch for Mermaids, the UK charity supporting LGBTQ+ youth! They do fantastic work, consider popping by for a stream or just sending a little donation. If you donate over £35, you get a bundle of 86 games! Donate here: donate.tiltify.com/@emmalittleduck/streaming-for-mermaids
Emma, you totally didn't understand this video! All of that racism caused by evolution.. you see, if we didn't create the theory of evolution, racism would no longer exist *clearly*! /s
One thing you did miss was the dig at Haeckel specifically, accusing him of scientific fraud. That's not a fair accusation - and, even if it was, subsequent research (including MRI scans of embryos) has shown him to have been essentially right. For funsies, I'll also note that Charlie 'all-forehead, no brain' Kirk was caught out arguing that a dolphin embryo was 'fully human' by Ben Gleib not that long ago.
Did someone seriously remove my comment, and label it as so-called "hate speech"?! Bahahahahaha! What are you, a 5 year old?! Oh, how will you be able to stand on the day of judgement then for "supporting" the sins of lgbtq+, if you can't even handle the truth right now? If you can't handle the FACT that the lgbtq+ cult is rife with mental illnesses, and has a trail of destruction and death behind it, then you need to GROW UP, AND WAKE UP TO REALITY! Lgbtq+ people DON'T need "support" to affirm their mental illnesses, THEY NEED HELP, AND FREEDOM OUT OF THE CESSPIT OF lgbtq+, otherwise DEATH awaits them, just like all the other lgbtq+ people who have lost their lives! But it's clear the lgbtq+ cult doesn't remotely care, and simply wants everyone who joins their cult to DIE, so they can make money! The lgbtq+ cult is a cult of VILE HATRED, and it NEEDS TO BE BANNED before more lives are lost! You're not helping anyone by "supporting" them in their fantasies, and perversions! YOU'RE SUPPORTING THEM TO THE GRAVE! One day you'll have to give an account of your life, and every sin you've ever committed. Deleting my comments and childishly marking them as so-called "hate speech" like a 5 year old, doesn't change the FACT that lgbtq+ IS WRONG! Don't like the truth? WELL TOUGH! There is a way out however; Repent, and believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ to be set free from the bondage of sin and lgbtq+.
I’m horrified…that they are creating a new generation of people whose poor education and inability to think critically will undermine our country on several levels.
@@egy7386 PART 1: It isn’t a problem for the west. It is a united statian problem. The USA is a fear based society. They fear the illuminati, the Rotchild family, the freemasons. Some of this fear has been developed in the 18xx. Some of it is from the 19xx. There is the JFK issue, there is the african american issue where some people don’t like them and some people see everyone as equal. Some of the united statians are very afraid of african americans bc they are proportionally more involved in crimes. ...to be continued
@@egy7386 PART 2: The communist thing produced a generation of united statians that are very afraid that their churches would be closed and everyone would be harmed, and nuclear weapons, so they started to print in God We Trust on their money so that their god would love them more and would protect them from nuclear bombs. Also, the united statians did a lot of harm to the native population and were slow to treat them as human beings. Even now, some members of the republicans would like to remove them from a certain location bc there is a lot of copper ore on their lands. ...to be continued
@@egy7386 PART 3: Even now, they see that the USA is being threatened by terrorists, by China, by North Korea, by Russia. Nearly 50% of them regard Donald as being sent by Jesus to make their country great again. Why is it that Canada doesn’t have these problems? Churches are slowly getting closed. A politician that wants to take away certain rights from native americans has been sort of kicked out. A couple of nurses in Quebec have been fired over racist remarks towards native americans. Look at the entire COVID thing. In the USA, a large portion of the population was saying that the government is taking away their freedoms. In Canada, it was some church in Alberta that was doing the same. We view Alberta as the Texas of Canada.
Bro really said "If everyone just saw you as a sin tainted curse that God hates you would have been treated better." Gotta say I have doubts about that one.
Just look how well people were treated during the dark ages and the "discovery" of the Americas. Nothing evolutionist about it. Just pure Christian values as portrayed in the Bible.
calvin: "racism bad, making fun of lady with lots of hair bed, using lady with lots of hair for personal gain bad." also calvin: "im going to use this lady with lots of hair for personal gain to say evolution is wrong and science is bad"
RACISM The 2 DAUGHTERS GET THEIR father drunk and f him What is this j author trying to tell us? What are the j people trying to tell us? Genesis 19:30 KING JAMES VERSION And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters. {19:31} And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth: {19:32} Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. {19:33} And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. {19:34} And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. {19:35} And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. {19:36} Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father. {19:37} And the firstborn bare a son, and called his name Moab: the same is the father of the Moabites unto this day. {19:38} And the younger, she also bare a son, and called his name Benammi: the same is the father of the children of Ammon unto this day. ^^^^^The above story tells us that the first daughter gets her father drunk and then f him. Exactly, how does a drunk man get an pop the wheely and expel the juice and not know what happened? So, the 2 ladies get pregnant and have male children. One is called Moab, which starts up the Moabite tribe. The other kid is Benammi and he starts up the Ammon tribe. Both the Moabite tribe and Ammon tribe are hated by the j people. This is their way of saying that their grandmothers have no morals and by extension, they don't as well. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Moab: the same is the father of the Moabites unto this day. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Benammi: the same is the father of the children of Ammon unto this day
I at times have felt sorry for the "Creationists." They fall into that category of people who, as I say, need "Simple child like answers to complex issues because they do not understand the issues or are too scared to every try to understand them."
this, absolutely. They today are the offspring of the reaction against Darwin. Pre Darwin there was no debate and in fact many key theologians in church history explicitly did not assume early genesis to be literal. However since those who began to insist on 6 day literal creation in response to Darwin needed to give a different version to natural selection, they became more and more entrenched in the idea that only a literal reading of the Bible can be true. They then effectively painted themselves into a corner by making the literal creation story a litmus test of whether the Bible is true or not. Thus their belief in Jesus as described in the Bible depends on believing all parts of the Bible are literal. Which works against them because any other view of Genesis means rejecting the whole of the faith. Yet critical thinking has to lead to rejecting the literal creation in favour of a poetic tale to explain the world and its flaws. Thus those brought up in this extreme literalist are likely to walk from faith as their walk from literalism. This makes the literalists more desperate and so willing to fund AIG and The Ark Encounter etc, even as they try to hold onto their own literalism by putting fingers in ears and lalala...
Definitely an accurate description of creationists. They're so ignorant, indoctrinated and poorly educated that they don't even realize that most theologians throughout history were not biblical literalists and argued against teaching the old testament as history instead of focusing on the moral lessons of the various stories. Biblical inerrantism was debunked by Christian archeologists and geologists by the end of the 18th century.
I once saw a comic showing various people is different environments each with a slogan, e.g. "I am a marine biologist because the sea calls to me", "I am an astronomer because the sky calls to me", and "I am a geologist because the Earth calls to me", etc. The last one is "I am a Young Earth Creationist because science confuses and frightens me".
It's moreso fear. The belief is that if God didn't create the world as laid out in Genesis, the whole Bible falls apart and Christianity is invalidated. And this is not hyperbole. This is _exactly_ what I've heard from my parents and the pastor at at least one church we went to. Literalism is a hell of a drug.
At first I was afraid, I was horrified Kept thinkin' I could never live without Jesus by my side But then I spent so many nights thinkin' how did we evolve And I grew strong, and I learned how to get along [Verse 1] And so you're back, from outer space I just walked in to find you here with that stupid look upon your face I should have changed that stupid Bible should have send you back to school If I'd have known for just one second you'd be back to bother me [Pre-Chorus] Go on now, go, walk out the door Just turn around now, 'cause you're not welcome anymore Weren't you the one who tried to hurt me with your church? Did you think I'd crumble? Did you think I'd lay down and die? [Chorus] Oh no, not I, I will evolve Oh, as long as I know how to read, I know I'll stay awake I've got all my life to live, and I've got all my brain to give And I'll evolve, I will evolve, hey hey
Whilst Darwin did say this woman was gorilla-like in appearance due to her jaws, he never used the word genetic as that word wasn't coined until about 20 years after his death. However, he would be correct in his assumption that she was the victim of the variations that natural selection has to work with.
How Pastrama and her son were treated as well as seeing how the other people in the freak shows were treated was the only horrific in the AiG video. As for Calvin arguments I didn't find them convincing in any way as a rebuttal of the theory of evolution but it did work as a reminder of how atrocious attitudes towards minorities were in the 1800's. Thanks for another informative video Emma.
John Irving Bloom more commonly known by his stage name Joe Bob Briggs who was a working journalist for sometime before becoming a film critic once talked about meeting those who worked in the freak show who had largely been force to retire after so many laws were passed killing the freak show. It was Interesting to hear the negative how those working the shows at least in the last years had vary different view than those trying to shut them down.
@@stephennootens916 Sadly, as those 'freaks' would struggle in the dominant culture for their differences, the freak shows could be their place to make a living. Yes many would be exploited, but also those shows gave people a place as those who may be outcast from their home communities. Like much of life - its complicated.
@@helenr4300 it's almost like the 1800s was a bad time to be alive. Infant and maternal mortality? Massive social issues causing discrimination? Sign me up for the latest birthday you can get me.
The Darwin quote is actually really interesting here. 15:50 The indelicate phrase "gorilla-like" aside, the idea that this woman's appearance is indicative of humanities vast genetic variation is actually very true. He doesn't say, at least in this quote, that she is some sub-human thing. He just says, rightly, that genetic mutation and variation is fascinating, and you can imagine how this unusual phenotype could be incredibly beneficial in the right environment, and then be passed down to future generations.
How shocked would you be if I told you that the quote doesn’t exist and this creationist made it up? I went to Calvin’s article on the topic published on Aig’s website and looked up the source, and then went straight to the source. What Darwin said about Pastrana is the following: “Here is another and somewhat different case communicated to me by Mr. Wallace on the authority of Dr. Purland, a dentist : Julia Pastrana, a Spanish dancer, was a remarkably fine woman, but she had a thick masculine beard and a hairy forehead ; she was photographed, and her stuffed skin was exhibited as a show ; but what concerns us is, that she had in both the upper and lower jaw an irregular double set of teeth, one row being placed within the other, of which Dr. Purland took a cast. From the redundancy of teeth her mouth projected, and her face had a gorilla-like appearance. These cases and those of the hairless dogs forcibly call to mind the fact, that the two orders of mammals - namely, the Edentata and Cetacea- which are the most abnormal in their dermal covering, are likewise the most abnormal either by deficiency or redundancy of teeth”.
A more likely explanation for the furry guy in the Bible: it was used to represent his role as the "wild man" in a pairing of a wild man with a civilized man. People back then lived in a world where only small areas were farmed and had towns/cities, and outside those areas was a "wild" world still full of nomads & hunter-gatherers. It's a juxtaposition that was on everybody's minds because they could see it any time they looked across the border between the two... especially for a people who were themselves in or close to the transition from the latter to the former. The Bible has other tales bringing up this duality and the question of which way is better, including also Cain & Abel, along with Eden & the world outside Eden, and the post-Exodus "wilderness wandering" phase compared to settling down in the towns of the promised land. And comparable juxtapositions in other tales outside the Bible also not only exist but also sometimes emphasize the wildness of the "wild man" of the pair by giving him animal traits. In the story of Gilgamesh & Enkidu, for example, Gilgamesh was the king of a huge city, and Enkidu was from the untamed lands somewhere outside the city and had fur, hooves, pointy animal ears, and horns. Jacob & Esau were just the latest version of the trope.
"combative isn't the word i'm looking for..." me: competitive. Emma: '"competitive is the word i'm looking for." there is only one explanation: my thoughts traveled back in time and reached Emma.
Emma and anyone else who's interested in this topic, you may enjoy the most recent series of episodes of the podcast, Oh No! Ross and Carrie. They're doing a deep dive on a home schooling conference that took place at the Ark Encounter.
AIG; "Pastrana's story of exploitation is indeed a sad one". Yes indeed it seems that well after she has died there are those that are still attempting to exploit her.
Yeah julia was taxadermied. And displayed standing next to her 5 day old son in some museum for a long time. She recently was finally given a burial in her native country and town.
One thing that infuriates me about apologetics, is that they will point at "fallibility of science" to claim science is not thrust worthy. THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT: SCIENCE IS NOT SACRED IT CAN BE WRONG. The whole point of the scientific method is that if we can correct mistakes.
Julia Pastrana's stuffed hide ended up in Norway and was stored at the department of anatomy at Oslo University. I remember hearing about the process for returning her to Mexico to be buried.
“Racism and ableism and capitalist exploitation exist - therefore definitively proving that an all-powerful benevolent being created the entire universe wholecloth in 6 days a few thousand years ago exclusively for the benefit of man” This guy’s argument is IMPECCABLE.
Ernst Haeckel's embryo drawings weren't forged per se, but more idealistic and left out what seemed unimportant to Haeckel (and what he perhaps didn't understand). But he was a prominent atheist, so he must be a bad, bad forger ;) As a kid I loved his "Kunstformen der Natur", my parents had some prints from that work. So beautiful!
What cracks me up about this guy Calvin is that he seems to think the science of evolution hasn't changed since the 19th Century. In actual science, the idea of a "missing link" went out the door before Calvin was even born, yet he still sells it as if it were the cutting edge of research.
In college I knew a guy that was very hairy, by other appearance and intelligence as much European as the average white guy, he even joked about being a Wolfman, he said shaving was pointless. Now myself, I have less body hair than the average white male, what does this say of me? These people need to take a few Human Biology and Genetics classes at their local Community College.
One of the problems with the story of Jacob and Esau is that if this is the reason for the hair situation, it would contradict something we've heard from many creationists who posit that mutations are a sign of corruption of our original code product of our separation from God. Basically, he's suggesting that the degradation of human kind began before Noah's time. This contradicts the notion for example that men used to live much longer because they were better (closer to god's image and perfection).
Fun fact: The oldest person in the Bible was Methuselah ( Noshs grandfather) was 970yo . The reason why people lived such long lives was to populate the world.
I'm seriously awed by people with so much intelligence who can bear to sit through so much moronic gumph. It's important, because it provides a counter perspective for people out there questioning what they believe and whether AiG is worth listening to, but at the same time... chocolate, wine, Netflix... there's so many other things to do in a day 😄 Thank you for making the time and conscientious effort when so many of us feel the same way but are already in our PJs.
A fine example of misdirection by focusing on human cruelty while ignoring the fact that AIG's "god" is the creator of these tragic examples of bad design.
It disgusts me in ways I can’t articulate when people (for lack of a better word) like that use these emotionally manipulative tactics to try and convince people that evolution-acceptance somehow inherently leads to immorality. They aren’t even trying to disprove it, they’re just trying to make people associate evolution with bigotry. I’m not sure if they know what they’re doing or if they genuinely believe that if they prove evolution-acceptance leads to bigotry that that somehow proves it wrong because they have no conception of logical thought
Tired from a 24hr livestream or not, Emma's arguments and refutations against fundamentalist anti-evolutionist assertions are both insightful and very impressive. This was an excellent and thought-provoking episode.
The crazy thing is that if you asked Calvin "why don't scientists today believe this woman was a missing link as scientists (supposedly) believed in the 1800s?" then Calvin would have to admit it's not because of god, or the Bible, or creationism, or any of the ways that he thinks are the best ways to arrive at truth but rather through scientific method and the theory of evolution! His whole example contradicts his worldview.
I am much too old for you, but oh my gosh, you are so amazing. I love your enthusiasm, I love your dedication, I love your look, and mostly your accent! Just keep it up and never change!
I'm no expert about this or anything but that argument about water not being wet always seemed weird to me because it can both be wet and make other things wet at the same time right? I mean, it's a bit like saying that fire itself isn't hot and that it just makes other things hot, why can't it be both? Again, I have no extensive knowledge of these types of things at all and I'm no expert, I just think it's a stupid argument as I said and I'm wondering if there's a better explanation as to how water isn't wet or if it actually is wet lmao
Homo Sapiens has no sense able to feel "wet" as a sensation. Mostly we feel that water is cold (or colder) than our skin. That's what people are actually feeling when they describe something as feeling "wet".
@@robfortune6Informally, sure, but "wetness" is a property of the interaction between surfaces if you are talking as a chemist. If you aren't talking about surface chemistry, nobody will cry if you claim that water is wet. If you *are* talking chemistry you are on more precise grounds if you say water is a wetting agent.
There were also a lot of racists and even fascists in the early feminist movement, one famous one even helped Petain (Gertrude Stein). A lot of good ideas have dark histories or were used by bad people to justify their actions and beliefs. It is important to recognize this, but it does not invalidate all the good.
When I was a young lad the creationist's were trying to get creationism taught in schools, especially in the American South. They nearly succeeded until the courts reminded us all of the Establishment Clause in the constitution that religious indoctrination had no place in the state ran schools. The 80's were a lovely time.
It's interesting listen to someone try to pronounce the name of my hometown and then realize I have no idea how to actually phonetically explain it. Guelph - Guh-well-fu
It's an important topic, and ironically, it was pseudo science, cherry-picking information, making things up, ignoring information, and skewing results to prove a false hypothesis.
17:15 it certainly educated me on more aspects of racism in history. And I didn’t know of the way scientists in the day combined racist thinking with theorizing on how evolution works and the supposed „throwbacks“ that can allegedly be shown with examples of people like Pastrana.
He sure got the first couple steps of the scientific method; he's got observation.. he's got hypothesis.. But whoops, you can't stop there, testing/proving the hypothesis is the most important part. It's the only thing separating you from literal guesswork.
Hey!… . . . . . . . . . . . . … you’re cool! Big help for deconversion and just dealing with being an atheist in a society that can be largely anti atheist, keep doin what ya do, it’s great and I’m incredibly thankful!
The Jacob and Esau story now has my headcanon as: Genesis has one of the earliest recorded evidence of a man realizing they're a twink: Genesis 27:11, ESV: But Jacob said to Rebekah his mother, “Behold, my brother Esau is a hairy man, and I am a smooth man."
It is well established that religiosity correlates inversely with intelligence,” note Richard Daws and Adam Hampshire at Imperial College London, in a new paper published in Frontiers in Psychology, which seeks to explore why.
At first I thought that one could refute his non-points by pointing out the mistreatment of mental disorders such as epilepsy by christians who thought that they were demon possessions, but then I realized that I had accidentally stumbled onto a refutation that is a stronger argument in it’s own right than the argument it was meant to debunk.
[AIG's wheel of excuses] Spin...tick...tick...tick Evolution is the process by which different kinds of living organisms developed and diversified from earlier forms during the history of the earth. AIG: Y'know I only put [the truth] on there as a show of good faith...
15:55 That quote is totally fabricated. It's not a quote-mine, or a sentence out of context, it just don't exist. First because Darwin never used the word "genetic" in the modern sense, it first appeared around 1905, Darwin died in 1882, he knew about the pioneer of genetics Gregor Mendel but apparently didn't see the link between that and his theory. Secondly, because I checked the book they give as a source, "The variation of animal and plants under domestication", here's the quote about Julia Pastrana: "Here is another and somewhat different case communicated to me by Mr. Wallace on the authority of Dr. Purland, a dentist: Julia Pastrana, a Spanish dancer, was a remarkably fine woman, but she had a thick masculine beard and a hairy forehead; she was photographed, and her stuffed skin was exhibited as a show; but what concerns us is, that she had in both the upper and lower jaw an irregular double set of teeth, one row being placed within the other, of which Dr. Purland took a cast. From the redundancy of teeth her mouth projected, and her face had a gorilla-like appearance. These cases and those of the hairless dogs forcibly call to mind the fact, that the two orders of mammals-namely, the Edentata and Cetacea-which are the most abnormal in their dermal covering, are likewise the most abnormal either by deficiency or redundancy of teeth." The quote is rather long, and is part of an even longer list of example. The important part is twofold, first he does give a description of Pastrana as "gorilla-like", but it's not an evidence, it's just a description. Second, his point is not that she looks like an ape, because humans are from apes, she's used in parallel of other cases, hairless dogs with deficient teeth, to show that there is a correlation between abnormal teeth and abornmal hair in mammals, and notably the Cetacea ad the Edentata (pangolins, sloths, armadillos, anteaters and ardvaak). He was probably wrong about that, as far as I know, even the grouppe of Edentata is wrong today, but it's a supposition that is understandable, and it's normal in science to be wrong about a lot of things before finding the right answer ^^ TL;DR Darwin never said that, AiG fabricated a quote, he was just using this example to make a point about the evolution of whales and pangolins.
AIG's arguments are the poster children of projection. And not trying to be pendantic, but I'd submit that AIG isn't trying to PROVE anything, rather CONVINCE people that their position is correct. It's a small, but supersignificant difference. Love watching you on these topics.
"Look at all these cruel people saying she's evidence for evolution, when she just had a genetic condition" ...and how did we discover it was a condition, Calvin? HOW DID WE DISCOVER IT WAS GENETIC??
Okay, first place Darwin himself was not that racist for a Victorian adjacent guy, and neither were his theories, it was those who grabbed his theories and ran with them in the racist Eugenics direction are the ones to blame.
The Esau story reeks with "fiction story". Something that never happened, but because "it's in the Bible, it happened". But the absurdity in this story [and so many others] is apparently lost on so many religious people.
It's an attempt at a character assassination without any evidence to support their standpoint. Also notice how Darwin was by far the least cruel, incorrect but supposing her superior.
I’d like to think Darwin’s theories and, especially, Mendel’s genetic experiments put an end to the idea that completely different animals (like man and bear) could create hybrids. I’d like to believe it, but my mom seriously thinks some cats are ring-tailed because their parents created hybrids with raccoons by mating in dumpsters/skip bins…
And it appears that back then people were also horrified at displaying her body and her sons body, as they were displayed wherever they were allowed to be displayed, implying that there were places that said "no, that is horrible".
There is no way Calvin Smith had involvement with the University of Guelph as they are a biology focused University. Looks like he was just on the pastoral staff at a church in Guelph.
Took a while looking for the Richard Milner quote, but the book is to recent to have many excerpts but too old to be scanned online anywhere I can get to. I did discover a couple of things though.: 1. The old white guy he pictured is not the man that wrote the book he quoted. The author is an African-American history professor. 2. The book is not a textbook of evolution, it is a history of Darwin, his contemporaries, and evolution researching. The was a major biographer of Darwin.
To blow some minds (some of which are rather small and therefore easy to blow...^^): Hypertrichosis and other atavisms like the vestigial ear muscles (which can actually be trained, if you want to ;-)), the appendix (which plays a much more important role in animal digestion than ours), the coccyx (which can be elongated with several more elements in some humans) etc. ARE actually a link to our evolutionary ancestry. When you look at early stage animal fetuses, you are hard pressed to tell which species they are, because they all look alike. They will develop differently during pregnancy due to different genetics, but the starting point is essentially the same, which is possibly only surprising for AiGs, because....well...evolution. Some genes are even present in all living organisms and have changed over time. Just take Cytochrome C. We have it, insects have it, gras has it...seems to be really important^^ And you can even build a pedigree from it, marking the mutations between species and postulating the more changes took place the more distant those species are...and come up with a tree that matches all other evolutionary data pretty good. So, yeah, atavisms gave us a hint to what to look for and helped figuring out how evolution works.
I suspect that Josephine wouldn't be accepted today, but subjected to the same treatment unless she got treatment. :( Also, how does the stuff about bodies being on display for money measure up with the relics of Christian Saints, the plundering of Native American tombs, or craze for Mummies?
Very nice! Note: It's not that modern science is any better, necessarily. Make the point that science is self correcting and contrast that with dogmatism.
I wonder if the story of Jakob and Esau is another version of the story of Cain and Abel, which is a recount of the coexistence of Neanderthals and Cro Magnon man. The older twin Esau was hairy, and the younger Jakob was smooth. Hmmm.
We don't worship Darwin; we credit him with coming up with a few ideas that turned out to be valid. It comes down to the nature of authority; 1) is a claim is valid because the person who made it is an authority, or 2) is a person an authority because a claim they make is valid? The religious right tends to think it's the former, so they also think they can disprove evolution by discrediting Darwin and a few other scientists. In reality, we can parse claims and figure out what's true, valid or accurate by further study and research. Darwin's claims on evolution turned out to be valid every time we discover more evidence, but several of his other claims turned out to be mistaken.
22:44 this not only focused on evolution but other new theories about the reality of life. When Alfred Wegener presented his theory of continental drift in 1911, he was ridiculed and dismissed because scientists thought that continents and mountains and such were made by God and thus unchangeable. It didn’t help that Wegener couldn’t yet explain how and why continents would drift. His opponents argued that there used to be giant „land bridges“ connecting the continents explaining how the same animals could exist on different continents. It was only in the 1920s when the sea depth was first measured and the sea floor showed some major inconsistency that it was discovered that there are mountains and valleys underwater and that „land bridges“ were just garbage.
Emma, The university is actually pronounced “gWELF”, or “U goo” if you are feeling particularly cheeky or local. It is about 80Km west of Toronto here in the good ol’ great white Canada. Love your videos; keep up the great content!
Hello lovely people, I recorded this video a day after completing a 24 hour livestream so... I realise I am not at my most eloquent here :3 I hope you enjoy all the same!
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You did fine
As for the wheel thing I think it's to preemptively attack arguments that genetics showcase evolution.
Emma, you totally didn't understand this video! All of that racism caused by evolution.. you see, if we didn't create the theory of evolution, racism would no longer exist *clearly*! /s
One thing you did miss was the dig at Haeckel specifically, accusing him of scientific fraud. That's not a fair accusation - and, even if it was, subsequent research (including MRI scans of embryos) has shown him to have been essentially right.
For funsies, I'll also note that Charlie 'all-forehead, no brain' Kirk was caught out arguing that a dolphin embryo was 'fully human' by Ben Gleib not that long ago.
You're becoming a Thorne in the flesh of AIG. 😁
Did someone seriously remove my comment, and label it as so-called "hate speech"?! Bahahahahaha! What are you, a 5 year old?!
Oh, how will you be able to stand on the day of judgement then for "supporting" the sins of lgbtq+, if you can't even handle the truth right now?
If you can't handle the FACT that the lgbtq+ cult is rife with mental illnesses, and has a trail of destruction and death behind it, then you need to GROW UP, AND WAKE UP TO REALITY!
Lgbtq+ people DON'T need "support" to affirm their mental illnesses, THEY NEED HELP, AND FREEDOM OUT OF THE CESSPIT OF lgbtq+, otherwise DEATH awaits them, just like all the other lgbtq+ people who have lost their lives!
But it's clear the lgbtq+ cult doesn't remotely care, and simply wants everyone who joins their cult to DIE, so they can make money!
The lgbtq+ cult is a cult of VILE HATRED, and it NEEDS TO BE BANNED before more lives are lost!
You're not helping anyone by "supporting" them in their fantasies, and perversions! YOU'RE SUPPORTING THEM TO THE GRAVE!
One day you'll have to give an account of your life, and every sin you've ever committed.
Deleting my comments and childishly marking them as so-called "hate speech" like a 5 year old, doesn't change the FACT that lgbtq+ IS WRONG!
Don't like the truth? WELL TOUGH!
There is a way out however; Repent, and believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ to be set free from the bondage of sin and lgbtq+.
As an "evolutionist", I was horrified. I was horrified that people take Answers in Genesis seriously. Please continue to expose these liars.
Liars for money.
If there's one thing the last several years have taught me... it's that people taking BS seriously is the new normal.
I was literally about to say that exact first sentence.
But, but you mean religious folks aren't morally pristine folks, they lie?
I am just something thinking the what about the yes.
I’m horrified…that they are creating a new generation of people whose poor education and inability to think critically will undermine our country on several levels.
fortunately most of the people who listen to them arent young, its directed to old people to indocrinate young, but most know its not adding up
@@egy7386 PART 1:
It isn’t a problem for the west. It is a united statian problem. The USA is a fear based society. They fear the illuminati, the Rotchild family, the freemasons. Some of this fear has been developed in the 18xx. Some of it is from the 19xx. There is the JFK issue, there is the african american issue where some people don’t like them and some people see everyone as equal.
Some of the united statians are very afraid of african americans bc they are proportionally more involved in crimes.
...to be continued
@@egy7386 PART 2:
The communist thing produced a generation of united statians that are very afraid that their churches would be closed and everyone would be harmed, and nuclear weapons, so they started to print in God We Trust on their money so that their god would love them more and would protect them from nuclear bombs. Also, the united statians did a lot of harm to the native population and were slow to treat them as human beings. Even now, some members of the republicans would like to remove them from a certain location bc there is a lot of copper ore on their lands.
...to be continued
@@egy7386 PART 3:
Even now, they see that the USA is being threatened by terrorists, by China, by North Korea, by Russia.
Nearly 50% of them regard Donald as being sent by Jesus to make their country great again.
Why is it that Canada doesn’t have these problems? Churches are slowly getting closed. A politician that wants to take away certain rights from native americans has been sort of kicked out.
A couple of nurses in Quebec have been fired over racist remarks towards native americans.
Look at the entire COVID thing. In the USA, a large portion of the population was saying that the government is taking away their freedoms.
In Canada, it was some church in Alberta that was doing the same. We view Alberta as the Texas of Canada.
@@egy7386 Ok, apparently, we aren't allowed to talk about certain things. So, youtube just hides my comments.
Man, I'd buy your version of the bible in a heartbeat! "On day 6, god created the animals and shit."
And mankind, as created in his image, keeps on creating more shit...
Biblically correct. In order to have shit you must first have animals.
And on the 6th day, God giveth to earth: Animals and shit.
@@robertcatuara5118 I think that it can be argued that the shit started on day one.
Shit was created on the fifth day at the latest with the fish, birds, and whatnot. Bullshit had to wait for day six though.
Love this guy going: "Look how awful it was that people used these poor people for their own aims. Which is why my ideology is correct."
Oh you mean the very thing they do. Lovely group of hypocrits yeah.
Luckily nobody was treated badly in Gods name in the last 2000 years, right? /s
Bro really said "If everyone just saw you as a sin tainted curse that God hates you would have been treated better." Gotta say I have doubts about that one.
Just look how well people were treated during the dark ages and the "discovery" of the Americas. Nothing evolutionist about it. Just pure Christian values as portrayed in the Bible.
Lmfao, this is WHAT I WAS THINKING LIKE HELLO THE GAYS HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT THAT
calvin: "racism bad, making fun of lady with lots of hair bed, using lady with lots of hair for personal gain bad."
also calvin: "im going to use this lady with lots of hair for personal gain to say evolution is wrong and science is bad"
or; neither of the two statements has any consideration with the woman at all, just a tool to be used and be thrown away.
@@kamion53 or Christians are monsters that will use people with medical conditions to try to force a narrative.
Like how you just used "...this lady with lots of hair for personal gain to say the Bible is wrong and young earth creation and Calvin Smith is bad"
RACISM
The 2 DAUGHTERS GET THEIR father drunk and f him
What is this j author trying to tell us?
What are the j people trying to tell us?
Genesis 19:30 KING JAMES VERSION
And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters. {19:31} And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth: {19:32} Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. {19:33} And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. {19:34} And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. {19:35} And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. {19:36} Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father. {19:37} And the firstborn bare a son, and called his name Moab: the same is the father of the Moabites unto this day. {19:38} And the younger, she also bare a son, and called his name Benammi: the same is the father of the children of Ammon unto this day.
^^^^^The above story tells us that the first daughter gets her father drunk and then f him. Exactly, how does a drunk man get an pop the wheely and expel the juice and not know what happened?
So, the 2 ladies get pregnant and have male children. One is called Moab, which starts up the Moabite tribe. The other kid is Benammi and he starts up the Ammon tribe. Both the Moabite tribe and Ammon tribe are hated by the j people. This is their way of saying that their grandmothers have no morals and by extension, they don't as well.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Moab: the same is the father of the Moabites unto this day.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Benammi: the same is the father of the children of Ammon unto this day
@@louistournas120 Elephant hurling fallacy, none of that has any relevance to "race".
I at times have felt sorry for the "Creationists."
They fall into that category of people who, as I say, need
"Simple child like answers to complex issues because they do not understand the issues or are too scared to every try to understand them."
this, absolutely. They today are the offspring of the reaction against Darwin. Pre Darwin there was no debate and in fact many key theologians in church history explicitly did not assume early genesis to be literal. However since those who began to insist on 6 day literal creation in response to Darwin needed to give a different version to natural selection, they became more and more entrenched in the idea that only a literal reading of the Bible can be true.
They then effectively painted themselves into a corner by making the literal creation story a litmus test of whether the Bible is true or not. Thus their belief in Jesus as described in the Bible depends on believing all parts of the Bible are literal. Which works against them because any other view of Genesis means rejecting the whole of the faith. Yet critical thinking has to lead to rejecting the literal creation in favour of a poetic tale to explain the world and its flaws.
Thus those brought up in this extreme literalist are likely to walk from faith as their walk from literalism. This makes the literalists more desperate and so willing to fund AIG and The Ark Encounter etc, even as they try to hold onto their own literalism by putting fingers in ears and lalala...
Definitely an accurate description of creationists. They're so ignorant, indoctrinated and poorly educated that they don't even realize that most theologians throughout history were not biblical literalists and argued against teaching the old testament as history instead of focusing on the moral lessons of the various stories. Biblical inerrantism was debunked by Christian archeologists and geologists by the end of the 18th century.
I once saw a comic showing various people is different environments each with a slogan, e.g. "I am a marine biologist because the sea calls to me", "I am an astronomer because the sky calls to me", and "I am a geologist because the Earth calls to me", etc. The last one is "I am a Young Earth Creationist because science confuses and frightens me".
It's moreso fear. The belief is that if God didn't create the world as laid out in Genesis, the whole Bible falls apart and Christianity is invalidated.
And this is not hyperbole. This is _exactly_ what I've heard from my parents and the pastor at at least one church we went to.
Literalism is a hell of a drug.
@@georgeandrews1394and that is a problem how?
At first I was afraid, I was horrified
Kept thinkin' I could never live without Jesus by my side
But then I spent so many nights thinkin' how did we evolve
And I grew strong, and I learned how to get along
[Verse 1]
And so you're back, from outer space
I just walked in to find you here with that stupid look upon your face
I should have changed that stupid Bible
should have send you back to school
If I'd have known for just one second you'd be back to bother me
[Pre-Chorus]
Go on now, go, walk out the door
Just turn around now, 'cause you're not welcome anymore
Weren't you the one who tried to hurt me with your church?
Did you think I'd crumble? Did you think I'd lay down and die?
[Chorus]
Oh no, not I, I will evolve
Oh, as long as I know how to read, I know I'll stay awake
I've got all my life to live, and I've got all my brain to give
And I'll evolve, I will evolve, hey hey
You are a master.
You win the Internet today.
That is awesome!
Great parody, effing hate the 🎵 tune!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Brilliant, lolitaras, Brilliant!!!!!!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽!!!
Wait, a person who broke ground in a field has their name LINKED to that field/work forever?! WOW!!!
Who would have thought?!
MIND!!!!BLOWN!!!!!
Wonder if the first person to invent a shovel was named Shovel.
@@HungryWarden IDK but I really dig that as a story. ;)
Whilst Darwin did say this woman was gorilla-like in appearance due to her jaws, he never used the word genetic as that word wasn't coined until about 20 years after his death. However, he would be correct in his assumption that she was the victim of the variations that natural selection has to work with.
How Pastrama and her son were treated as well as seeing how the other people in the freak shows were treated was the only horrific in the AiG video. As for Calvin arguments I didn't find them convincing in any way as a rebuttal of the theory of evolution but it did work as a reminder of how atrocious attitudes towards minorities were in the 1800's. Thanks for another informative video Emma.
John Irving Bloom more commonly known by his stage name Joe Bob Briggs who was a working journalist for sometime before becoming a film critic once talked about meeting those who worked in the freak show who had largely been force to retire after so many laws were passed killing the freak show. It was Interesting to hear the negative how those working the shows at least in the last years had vary different view than those trying to shut them down.
@FuzzyAziraphale *Pastrana. The -ama is a variety of food. ;-)
@@irrelevant_noob did poster encounter autocorrect?
@@stephennootens916 Sadly, as those 'freaks' would struggle in the dominant culture for their differences, the freak shows could be their place to make a living. Yes many would be exploited, but also those shows gave people a place as those who may be outcast from their home communities. Like much of life - its complicated.
@@helenr4300 it's almost like the 1800s was a bad time to be alive. Infant and maternal mortality? Massive social issues causing discrimination? Sign me up for the latest birthday you can get me.
The Darwin quote is actually really interesting here. 15:50 The indelicate phrase "gorilla-like" aside, the idea that this woman's appearance is indicative of humanities vast genetic variation is actually very true.
He doesn't say, at least in this quote, that she is some sub-human thing. He just says, rightly, that genetic mutation and variation is fascinating, and you can imagine how this unusual phenotype could be incredibly beneficial in the right environment, and then be passed down to future generations.
Only thing is, it was a made upmquotecas Darwin was dead long before the word genetic was coined.
I don’t know what to 😊 I just want to
How shocked would you be if I told you that the quote doesn’t exist and this creationist made it up?
I went to Calvin’s article on the topic published on Aig’s website and looked up the source, and then went straight to the source. What Darwin said about Pastrana is the following:
“Here is another and somewhat different case communicated to me by Mr. Wallace on the authority of Dr. Purland, a dentist : Julia Pastrana, a Spanish dancer, was a remarkably fine woman, but she had a thick masculine beard and a hairy forehead ; she was photographed, and her stuffed skin was exhibited as a show ; but what concerns us is, that she had in both the upper and lower jaw an irregular double set of teeth, one row being placed within the other, of which Dr. Purland took a cast. From the redundancy of teeth her mouth projected, and her face had a gorilla-like appearance. These cases and those of the hairless dogs forcibly call to mind the fact, that the two orders of mammals - namely, the Edentata and Cetacea- which are the most abnormal in their dermal covering, are likewise the most abnormal either by deficiency or redundancy of teeth”.
@Andreas Alm What! You mean that a young earth creationist apologist lied? I am so very shocked. 😲
@@DaveCM It's like who can I even trust anymore? 🤷🏼
A more likely explanation for the furry guy in the Bible: it was used to represent his role as the "wild man" in a pairing of a wild man with a civilized man. People back then lived in a world where only small areas were farmed and had towns/cities, and outside those areas was a "wild" world still full of nomads & hunter-gatherers. It's a juxtaposition that was on everybody's minds because they could see it any time they looked across the border between the two... especially for a people who were themselves in or close to the transition from the latter to the former. The Bible has other tales bringing up this duality and the question of which way is better, including also Cain & Abel, along with Eden & the world outside Eden, and the post-Exodus "wilderness wandering" phase compared to settling down in the towns of the promised land. And comparable juxtapositions in other tales outside the Bible also not only exist but also sometimes emphasize the wildness of the "wild man" of the pair by giving him animal traits. In the story of Gilgamesh & Enkidu, for example, Gilgamesh was the king of a huge city, and Enkidu was from the untamed lands somewhere outside the city and had fur, hooves, pointy animal ears, and horns. Jacob & Esau were just the latest version of the trope.
Gilgamesh has the same distinction, oddly enough. Enkidu became civilized by cleaning him up and getting him a woman.
"combative isn't the word i'm looking for..."
me: competitive.
Emma: '"competitive is the word i'm looking for."
there is only one explanation: my thoughts traveled back in time and reached Emma.
Guilt by historical association is such a weird approach. Pretty much anyone could be guilty of anything with that train of thought.
Emma and anyone else who's interested in this topic, you may enjoy the most recent series of episodes of the podcast, Oh No! Ross and Carrie. They're doing a deep dive on a home schooling conference that took place at the Ark Encounter.
Yes! I listened for the information and stayed for the Ark-related puns.
Anything Ken Hamm related should be avoided. He is nothing more then a grifter.
AIG; "Pastrana's story of exploitation is indeed a sad one".
Yes indeed it seems that well after she has died there are those that are still attempting to exploit her.
Well said!
Thanks for doing what you do. I find these people endlessly entertaining, if I can block out how dangerous their ignorance can be.
Yeah julia was taxadermied. And displayed standing next to her 5 day old son in some museum for a long time. She recently was finally given a burial in her native country and town.
The minor key arpeggiated synth w/ those tom hits and glockenspiel as your new outro music is kind of amazingly epic
One thing that infuriates me about apologetics, is that they will point at "fallibility of science" to claim science is not thrust worthy. THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT: SCIENCE IS NOT SACRED IT CAN BE WRONG. The whole point of the scientific method is that if we can correct mistakes.
So happy that the advert I got on your channel was for a kids chemistry science kit!
Julia Pastrana's stuffed hide ended up in Norway and was stored at the department of anatomy at Oslo University. I remember hearing about the process for returning her to Mexico to be buried.
Always enjoy your POV and skepticism. Keep spreading the good word!
And yet the NICU and medical science on taking care of premature babies was started as a Coney island freak show
“Racism and ableism and capitalist exploitation exist - therefore definitively proving that an all-powerful benevolent being created the entire universe wholecloth in 6 days a few thousand years ago exclusively for the benefit of man”
This guy’s argument is IMPECCABLE.
Ernst Haeckel's embryo drawings weren't forged per se, but more idealistic and left out what seemed unimportant to Haeckel (and what he perhaps didn't understand). But he was a prominent atheist, so he must be a bad, bad forger ;)
As a kid I loved his "Kunstformen der Natur", my parents had some prints from that work. So beautiful!
Meanwhile, at AIG headquarters: "HOW DID SHE FIND OUT ABOUT THE WHEEL?"
This is what happens when people confuse a book of mythology with a science book.
What cracks me up about this guy Calvin is that he seems to think the science of evolution hasn't changed since the 19th Century. In actual science, the idea of a "missing link" went out the door before Calvin was even born, yet he still sells it as if it were the cutting edge of research.
In college I knew a guy that was very hairy, by other appearance and intelligence as much European as the average white guy, he even joked about being a Wolfman, he said shaving was pointless. Now myself, I have less body hair than the average white male, what does this say of me? These people need to take a few Human Biology and Genetics classes at their local Community College.
One of the problems with the story of Jacob and Esau is that if this is the reason for the hair situation, it would contradict something we've heard from many creationists who posit that mutations are a sign of corruption of our original code product of our separation from God. Basically, he's suggesting that the degradation of human kind began before Noah's time. This contradicts the notion for example that men used to live much longer because they were better (closer to god's image and perfection).
Fun fact: The oldest person in the Bible was Methuselah ( Noshs grandfather) was 970yo .
The reason why people lived such long lives was to populate the world.
I'm seriously awed by people with so much intelligence who can bear to sit through so much moronic gumph. It's important, because it provides a counter perspective for people out there questioning what they believe and whether AiG is worth listening to, but at the same time... chocolate, wine, Netflix... there's so many other things to do in a day 😄 Thank you for making the time and conscientious effort when so many of us feel the same way but are already in our PJs.
Ooh he can pull books out of leather cases and can open picture books while he is quoting. I think he needs more books.
A fine example of misdirection
by focusing on human cruelty
while ignoring the fact that AIG's "god" is the creator
of these tragic examples of bad design.
Let's talk about the library behind the guy... why all those books if you just need the one?
I was horrified that anyone can still believe in Biblical literalism in this day and age.
I need to know where Emma obtained her hoodie.
It disgusts me in ways I can’t articulate when people (for lack of a better word) like that use these emotionally manipulative tactics to try and convince people that evolution-acceptance somehow inherently leads to immorality. They aren’t even trying to disprove it, they’re just trying to make people associate evolution with bigotry. I’m not sure if they know what they’re doing or if they genuinely believe that if they prove evolution-acceptance leads to bigotry that that somehow proves it wrong because they have no conception of logical thought
Tired from a 24hr livestream or not, Emma's arguments and refutations against fundamentalist anti-evolutionist assertions are both insightful and very impressive.
This was an excellent and thought-provoking episode.
The crazy thing is that if you asked Calvin "why don't scientists today believe this woman was a missing link as scientists (supposedly) believed in the 1800s?" then Calvin would have to admit it's not because of god, or the Bible, or creationism, or any of the ways that he thinks are the best ways to arrive at truth but rather through scientific method and the theory of evolution!
His whole example contradicts his worldview.
Living very near there, I can attest it is pronounced "Gwelf".
I greatly appreciate your show. I wish you years of energy to continue.
They keep saying I'm going to be horrified....and I'm still waiting.
I am much too old for you, but oh my gosh, you are so amazing. I love your enthusiasm, I love your dedication, I love your look, and mostly your accent!
Just keep it up and never change!
Water isn't wet, water makes things wet.
Just living up to Emma's expectations of me lol.
Can water make water wet?
I'm no expert about this or anything but that argument about water not being wet always seemed weird to me because it can both be wet and make other things wet at the same time right? I mean, it's a bit like saying that fire itself isn't hot and that it just makes other things hot, why can't it be both? Again, I have no extensive knowledge of these types of things at all and I'm no expert, I just think it's a stupid argument as I said and I'm wondering if there's a better explanation as to how water isn't wet or if it actually is wet lmao
Homo Sapiens has no sense able to feel "wet" as a sensation. Mostly we feel that water is cold (or colder) than our skin. That's what people are actually feeling when they describe something as feeling "wet".
@@robfortune6Informally, sure, but "wetness" is a property of the interaction between surfaces if you are talking as a chemist.
If you aren't talking about surface chemistry, nobody will cry if you claim that water is wet. If you *are* talking chemistry you are on more precise grounds if you say water is a wetting agent.
@@simongiles9749 Interesting, thanks lol
There were also a lot of racists and even fascists in the early feminist movement, one famous one even helped Petain (Gertrude Stein). A lot of good ideas have dark histories or were used by bad people to justify their actions and beliefs. It is important to recognize this, but it does not invalidate all the good.
You can counter religion with "If we are made in God's image, why does God need a nose? Teeth to eat, ears to hear, and sex organs?"
And if God's image is so important, why are Jews born with foreskins that need to be snipped off?
is that sweater that old one from the unboxing? Is it something that can still be bought? That sweatshirt is just so heckin cute.
Excellent point in favour of increasing diversity in science, a very present issue. Seconded.
Some of those shots of Calvin make it look like he's got either slightly larger hands than one would think, or a slightly smaller head.
Guelph is pronounced 'gwelf' (think Gwen + elf). It's a small city in Ontario, Canada.
When I was a young lad the creationist's were trying to get creationism taught in schools, especially in the American South. They nearly succeeded until the courts reminded us all of the Establishment Clause in the constitution that religious indoctrination had no place in the state ran schools. The 80's were a lovely time.
It's interesting listen to someone try to pronounce the name of my hometown and then realize I have no idea how to actually phonetically explain it.
Guelph - Guh-well-fu
i'm horrified. Horrified at the willful misconstruction.
I would like to thank God for making me an atheist. Who are we to question his wisdom?
It's an important topic, and ironically, it was pseudo science, cherry-picking information, making things up, ignoring information, and skewing results to prove a false hypothesis.
17:15 it certainly educated me on more aspects of racism in history. And I didn’t know of the way scientists in the day combined racist thinking with theorizing on how evolution works and the supposed „throwbacks“ that can allegedly be shown with examples of people like Pastrana.
12:05 that smartass would have been me. Nicely played, Emma. You got me.
New channel!
How timely 🙂
He sure got the first couple steps of the scientific method; he's got observation.. he's got hypothesis.. But whoops, you can't stop there, testing/proving the hypothesis is the most important part. It's the only thing separating you from literal guesswork.
Your timing is impeccable, as this week's Torah portion is the Return of Esau. He relocates to the Land of Hair (Seir).
Their entire schtick isn't even just " god by default", but their "particular interpretation of a specific god" by default, which is even more loony.
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… you’re cool! Big help for deconversion and just dealing with being an atheist in a society that can be largely anti atheist, keep doin what ya do, it’s great and I’m incredibly thankful!
Somehow I never knew that AiG liked the KJV.
Unlike Kent Hovind, who makes it clear he’s a KJV only-ist, AiG doesn’t seem to bring it up that much.
Emma, how dare you question this man. He is clearly sitting at a desk that has books behind it!
Just more evidence that YOU are evolved, Emma. Thank you once again for breaking down the idiocy of irrational brains hanging onto irrelevant beliefs.
The Jacob and Esau story now has my headcanon as: Genesis has one of the earliest recorded evidence of a man realizing they're a twink:
Genesis 27:11, ESV: But Jacob said to Rebekah his mother, “Behold, my brother Esau is a hairy man, and I am a smooth man."
It is well established that religiosity correlates inversely with intelligence,” note Richard Daws and Adam Hampshire at Imperial College London, in a new paper published in Frontiers in Psychology, which seeks to explore why.
At first I thought that one could refute his non-points by pointing out the mistreatment of mental disorders such as epilepsy by christians who thought that they were demon possessions, but then I realized that I had accidentally stumbled onto a refutation that is a stronger argument in it’s own right than the argument it was meant to debunk.
And we have three days to find out!...
Snail mail is a great idea, it's giving people a physical contact to such a digital relationship you have with your most ardent followers.
[AIG's wheel of excuses]
Spin...tick...tick...tick
Evolution is the process by which different kinds of living organisms developed and diversified from earlier forms during the history of the earth.
AIG: Y'know I only put [the truth] on there as a show of good faith...
Ignorance is a major industry in America!
15:55 That quote is totally fabricated. It's not a quote-mine, or a sentence out of context, it just don't exist. First because Darwin never used the word "genetic" in the modern sense, it first appeared around 1905, Darwin died in 1882, he knew about the pioneer of genetics Gregor Mendel but apparently didn't see the link between that and his theory.
Secondly, because I checked the book they give as a source, "The variation of animal and plants under domestication", here's the quote about Julia Pastrana:
"Here is another and somewhat different case communicated to me by Mr. Wallace on the authority of Dr. Purland, a dentist: Julia Pastrana, a Spanish dancer, was a remarkably fine woman, but she had a thick masculine beard and a hairy forehead; she was photographed, and her stuffed skin was exhibited as a show; but what concerns us is, that she had in both the upper and lower jaw an irregular double set of teeth, one row being placed within the other, of which Dr. Purland took a cast. From the redundancy of teeth her mouth projected, and her face had a gorilla-like appearance. These cases and those of the hairless dogs forcibly call to mind the fact, that the two orders of mammals-namely, the Edentata and Cetacea-which are the most abnormal in their dermal covering, are likewise the most abnormal either by deficiency or redundancy of teeth."
The quote is rather long, and is part of an even longer list of example. The important part is twofold, first he does give a description of Pastrana as "gorilla-like", but it's not an evidence, it's just a description. Second, his point is not that she looks like an ape, because humans are from apes, she's used in parallel of other cases, hairless dogs with deficient teeth, to show that there is a correlation between abnormal teeth and abornmal hair in mammals, and notably the Cetacea ad the Edentata (pangolins, sloths, armadillos, anteaters and ardvaak). He was probably wrong about that, as far as I know, even the grouppe of Edentata is wrong today, but it's a supposition that is understandable, and it's normal in science to be wrong about a lot of things before finding the right answer ^^
TL;DR Darwin never said that, AiG fabricated a quote, he was just using this example to make a point about the evolution of whales and pangolins.
AIG's arguments are the poster children of projection. And not trying to be pendantic, but I'd submit that AIG isn't trying to PROVE anything, rather CONVINCE people that their position is correct. It's a small, but supersignificant difference. Love watching you on these topics.
Book recommendation: The Mismeasure of Man
Take a shot every time Calvin makes a point.
See? You're not drunk.
Best drinking game ever!
"Look at all these cruel people saying she's evidence for evolution, when she just had a genetic condition"
...and how did we discover it was a condition, Calvin? HOW DID WE DISCOVER IT WAS GENETIC??
Okay, first place Darwin himself was not that racist for a Victorian adjacent guy, and neither were his theories, it was those who grabbed his theories and ran with them in the racist Eugenics direction are the ones to blame.
“Announcement 1: there is no sponsor this video…” - [insert obligatory Established Titles joke here]
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There's something about Calvin that would make him the perfect salesman for expensive bathroom products for gentlemen of the most personal nature.
The Esau story reeks with "fiction story". Something that never happened, but because "it's in the Bible, it happened". But the absurdity in this story [and so many others] is apparently lost on so many religious people.
It's an attempt at a character assassination without any evidence to support their standpoint. Also notice how Darwin was by far the least cruel, incorrect but supposing her superior.
FYI: It's pronounced "gwelf" like a nickname for an elf named Gwen. Source: am Canadian.
I’d like to think Darwin’s theories and, especially, Mendel’s genetic experiments put an end to the idea that completely different animals (like man and bear) could create hybrids. I’d like to believe it, but my mom seriously thinks some cats are ring-tailed because their parents created hybrids with raccoons by mating in dumpsters/skip bins…
I think you need to show her a picture of the Carnivora family tree.
Water might make things wet but what about Particle Man? If he's underwater, does he get wet?
And it appears that back then people were also horrified at displaying her body and her sons body, as they were displayed wherever they were allowed to be displayed, implying that there were places that said "no, that is horrible".
There is no way Calvin Smith had involvement with the University of Guelph as they are a biology focused University. Looks like he was just on the pastoral staff at a church in Guelph.
It's like there hasn't been any new science in the last century.
Took a while looking for the Richard Milner quote, but the book is to recent to have many excerpts but too old to be scanned online anywhere I can get to.
I did discover a couple of things though.:
1. The old white guy he pictured is not the man that wrote the book he quoted. The author is an African-American history professor.
2. The book is not a textbook of evolution, it is a history of Darwin, his contemporaries, and evolution researching. The was a major biographer of Darwin.
To blow some minds (some of which are rather small and therefore easy to blow...^^): Hypertrichosis and other atavisms like the vestigial ear muscles (which can actually be trained, if you want to ;-)), the appendix (which plays a much more important role in animal digestion than ours), the coccyx (which can be elongated with several more elements in some humans) etc. ARE actually a link to our evolutionary ancestry. When you look at early stage animal fetuses, you are hard pressed to tell which species they are, because they all look alike. They will develop differently during pregnancy due to different genetics, but the starting point is essentially the same, which is possibly only surprising for AiGs, because....well...evolution. Some genes are even present in all living organisms and have changed over time. Just take Cytochrome C. We have it, insects have it, gras has it...seems to be really important^^ And you can even build a pedigree from it, marking the mutations between species and postulating the more changes took place the more distant those species are...and come up with a tree that matches all other evolutionary data pretty good.
So, yeah, atavisms gave us a hint to what to look for and helped figuring out how evolution works.
I suspect that Josephine wouldn't be accepted today, but subjected to the same treatment unless she got treatment. :(
Also, how does the stuff about bodies being on display for money measure up with the relics of Christian Saints, the plundering of Native American tombs, or craze for Mummies?
Very nice! Note: It's not that modern science is any better, necessarily. Make the point that science is self correcting and contrast that with dogmatism.
I wonder if the story of Jakob and Esau is another version of the story of Cain and Abel, which is a recount of the coexistence of Neanderthals and Cro Magnon man. The older twin Esau was hairy, and the younger Jakob was smooth. Hmmm.
We don't worship Darwin; we credit him with coming up with a few ideas that turned out to be valid.
It comes down to the nature of authority; 1) is a claim is valid because the person who made it is an authority, or 2) is a person an authority because a claim they make is valid?
The religious right tends to think it's the former, so they also think they can disprove evolution by discrediting Darwin and a few other scientists. In reality, we can parse claims and figure out what's true, valid or accurate by further study and research. Darwin's claims on evolution turned out to be valid every time we discover more evidence, but several of his other claims turned out to be mistaken.
22:44 this not only focused on evolution but other new theories about the reality of life. When Alfred Wegener presented his theory of continental drift in 1911, he was ridiculed and dismissed because scientists thought that continents and mountains and such were made by God and thus unchangeable. It didn’t help that Wegener couldn’t yet explain how and why continents would drift.
His opponents argued that there used to be giant „land bridges“ connecting the continents explaining how the same animals could exist on different continents.
It was only in the 1920s when the sea depth was first measured and the sea floor showed some major inconsistency that it was discovered that there are mountains and valleys underwater and that „land bridges“ were just garbage.
25:00 A very good point *Emma,* this is an even bigger hole in their logic than what I noticed.
Emma,
The university is actually pronounced “gWELF”, or “U goo” if you are feeling particularly cheeky or local. It is about 80Km west of Toronto here in the good ol’ great white Canada. Love your videos; keep up the great content!
Can you imagine Calvin speaking this compassionately about LGBTQ people? I sure can't.