This Old Fiberglass Boat: Episode 1 - Part One - Buying an Old Fiberglass Boat
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ย. 2024
- If you are considering buying an older fiberglass boat wait until you have seen both parts of this video. The video tells you how to buy a boat and comes with tips that can save you thousands of dollars.
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Well done. Short and sweet. Thanks for making this.
I have watched scores of videos on "getting into" sailboats. I have to thank you for two little bits of advice that you've been the first to mention. I had thought that I would prefer getting an outboard over having an inboard so that the internal space could be used for additional storage. I hadn't thought of something as mundane as the internal smell of an inboard nor had I thought of taking the engine to a mechanic instead of a mechanic to the engine. Brilliant on both counts! Thanks!
+Gerry C
Thanks Gerry. I hope you subscribe. I occasionally have other epiphanies.
Regards,
Allan
Osmotic blistering: Fiberglass boats are made with layers of fiberglass that is laid on to a mold and then impregnated with polyester resin (different than epoxy resin). The resin is liquid and is turned into a hard plastic by mixing a catalyst with it at the amount of 1% by volume. In order to achieve a high quality laminate it is necessary to attain a very complete mix of the resin and catalyst. This is often difficult without using a good mixing device as once the catalyst is added to the resin the working time is only 15 minutes before it starts to gel. Once it begins to gel you have to stop working as it rapidly comes to a point where it won't saturate the glass. The cause of blisters is incomplete catalysation of the resin. When the part is first pulled from the mold there is no way to tell if the resin was improperly mixed as the part will appear the same as one with properly mixed resin appears. The blisters will take time to form and the boat will have to be in the water for some time before they show. The best way to fix blistering on a hull that has them is to grind the blisters out, fill with a mix of resin and glass, and then apply epoxy resin to seal the entire hull. The cost can be high as there is much labor involved. Be sure to inspect the hull and if blisters are present and you want the boat then have the owner repair it before the sale or ask for the price to be reduced by the estimated repair cost. As this is a manufacturing defect, the maker of the boat is
responsible and should be contacted to get relief. Legally in the US, there is no time limit
on the responsibility of the maker.
Thank you for sharing the information
That was awesome man. Had some beers and Nachos and enjoyed your tutorial. Peace my friend.
Thank you! Great information
Brokers work for the boat owner. Their main concern is to sell the boat at the highest price possible as quickly as possibly and get their commission. They do not work for the buyer or have any concern for the buyer. They are expert "sales" people.
Wrong. Brokers work for themselves. Quick sale is their aim.
Very useful tips here. Many thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge. Cheers from Vancouver
Thanks for the help! Very helpful and clear! :) Also, making sure you have a good (several) marinas to dock the boat in is helpful? It also maybe important to check the engine carefully including the fuel filter, oil level (without drain) or spark plugs if possible? I'm not an expert with sails however, if they are thick and regularly washed with fresh water they usually last a long time. :)
This one of those TH-cam video where you can actually learn something!
I just found this site by accident and have two suggestions: a) include a reference to these videos on your 'Budget Boat Cruising' series and b) let people know that a Marine Surveyor may do an engine compression test, if the owner agrees and the prospective buyer pays for new spark plugs...It's worth checking into and will provide a much better indication of the engine status. If the owner doesn't agree, perhaps you should be wary...Other important and necessary modern safety equipment is SSB, Radar, EPIRB and AIS systems...I'm a retired USA guy, living in Bangkok --- just started sailing this year and noticed that Canada has many 'freshwater' boats for sale at great prices...
Won't work on an inboard diesel. No plugs on a diesel engine.
moisture meter,great advice,thx
Thank you for making this video series.
Very useful video, thanks!
+Fernando Hughes
Thank you Fernando. I'm working on other related videos and hope to post them soon.
If you plan on living on a boat,they are never big enough, stay 32 to 42 feet,,they’re just as much work,,but can still be managed by one person,the resale is better and remember,,a boat is like a wife,give her what she wants,,and keep giving because you love her
Great info. Thanks
I also bought too soon and high, I got them down, but could of got more because his one year marina birth was about to run out" He would of took a lot less just to get out of paying day to day $$$$ 🙉 FYI Find out if he has a year to year lease Catch him at the end"
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Very good!
Very useful video thanks, can you tell me what the different between solid fiberglass boat with no core and cored fiberglass goat and witch is better for ocean crossing or at least for blue water crossing
I'll leave this one open to any other comments but the original fibreglass boats were cored because that is the way boat builders knew how to build wooden boats. Often they were also heavy laid-up because they didn't know how strong the material was and it was cheap. Critics call the newer designs "Tupperware" and they are pre-made in pieces in forms. As to which one is best it probably depends on the maker, the model and how well it has been maintained. A soggy core is not a good thing.
Outboard motors work fine for lake-sailing but are less than ideal on the open ocean. Avoid boats that have decks which are cored with any kind of wood product (i.e. balsa core, plywood etc.) Your looking for a synthetic core. Wood cored decks will almost always have "soft spots." (These can be fixed, but not easily.) Avoid boats with teak-over-glass decks. They may look pretty but they aren't good. (Do you really expect them not to leak, when all that teak is screwed down with hundreds of screws.) Lastly,.. figure on spending at least as much money on the restoration of your "good-ol-boat" as your original purchase price. (You definitely will.) And that's just for parts. Your labor will be your own affair.
Now take off the rose-colored glasses. Think long and hard. Do the math, then go out and buy the newest boat you can possibly afford (or none whatever.)
Did I mention the insurance problem? It's becoming extremely hard to get coverage on old boats, especially if...you're a live-aboard, you've had an insurance claim (even if it wasn't your fault.) If you've ever had a policy cancellation for any reason, or your boat has a wooden hull. Some insurance companies will ask about conditions of standing rigging and "when was the last time it was replaced." All insurance companies will require a current, marine survey for any comprehensive coverage (and older boats, typically don't fair so well here.)
Liability insurance is an absolute must in any marina anywhere, and required to enter foreign countries and their ports-of-call.
Figure on keeping your old boat forever, because resale will usually require that much time (this is true no matter how pretty you think your boat is.)
You think I don't know what I'm talking about? I only wish I didn't.
A lot of boats in Florida,,make sure it has all its hardware,sails and anchors,they can get expensive,,replacing wood,teak is best,$32+,, mahogany $11+,, your northern woods,,white oaks,oaks,pines will be eaten up in the southern clime,,pressure treated ply is better than marine,and cheaper and termites don’t like it,,,,protect all hidden sides of wood with a coating,epoxy is better,you’ll be thankful later when fixing something and you don’t have to replace it,,save your stainless,you’ll use plenty of it,,as for lighting,,you’re at your best times,,use Home Depot yard lights,LEDs,,battery pack lights,integrate,,lighting should not be a problem,,solar panels are a god send,,windmills if you want to brag,,,,I’m trying out table top epoxy for my topside wood,,it seems to hold up better and clearer than regular epoxy,gives me time for my other chores,,hull above water line,I use oil base paint,,top side,I use cheap water base paint that I mix myself,,I have no problems with it,,it holds up fine,and your deck doesn’t have to be perfectly dry, ;saves on chemicals and cleanup, and you can paint your top side more often,keep your colors light,the deck can get very hot in the southern climate,,,anchors,,bigger is better,,Danforts are great but they flip with currents,,I find the claw or Bruse the best,,but don’t turn down a plow,,it’s good to have 3 good anchors aboard,,rope,rode,,a lot of it, 3 quarter, 1 inch,,I’ve seen 3 quarter turn into half inch during hurricane Gordon,,I prefer 1 inch, change is important for anchor, 30 feet or more is good,,just remember,,in a storm situation,you’ll wish you had more,,my boat ,on the hook,made it through hurricane Irma,here in Key West,good luck and don’t forget to go to boaters flee market
very good info thanx a lot:)
great tips never thought of i am in the uk no1 i am to 6ft to that's my no 1 2nd outboard yep i agree pop into car take to mechanic and only halfway thru thanks so much
Not really understanding how you buy a boat other than cash only unless you mean an owner might finance for you, but that is ridiculous.
At least 50% of all boats in any marina or yard are FOR SALE...and I'm not kidding...some can be had for free!...just ask!
Yeah, soft soggy decks are a real problem.
If 71% of boats are used then 71%, or greater, must be for sale. Hmmmm.....Does this mean that most people who own them wish they didn't?
No title,,,forget it,,make sure the title is good
puassy
This would be better if you weren't reading it...
In my experience, brokers work for themselves! They care about their commission. Caveat emptor..
You really gave no useful information in part 1.. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.. looking fwd to hearing 2 and beyond.. then I'll comment.
Okay, lived aboard for 15 years, bought used sailboats, and I really wanted to get into this, but this dude is so lame. Nothing to see here, move along.