@@BowmansWorld watch this indy does make educational video games and also Indy does try out to make AAA quality games for PC and console using GPT three.
I played this back in the day with a Japanese Cartridge but gave up on it because I couldn't understand what millions of items do so I replayed it from start to end on Zsnes with English Translation version, don't think seiken densetsu 3 came out officially in English, same for Tales of Phantasia, and bahamut Lagoon
While that's true it doesn't completely alleviate the issue There isn't an option for it to switch targets on target death so you can find yourself in some janky angles in multiman fights you have to re lock on manually after every enemy defeated which can get you killed in a bad spot
To be fair the game never tells you and when you look at the commands it doesn't show either, it's very strange. And I swear I tried during the demo the right stick and it did nothing. Tried again when I heard there was a lock-on and I was like "ooohhhhhh it changes everything". It's very bizarre the tutorial doesn't tell you about it during the very first battle considering how awful the camera is by default.
But, much like the Secret of Mana remake, this remake is, too, vastly inferior compared to the original. Which is a traditional Square *_Enix_* delivery.
Well he's just saying he wanted more to do so he could enjoy his time in the game world more. That's what side quests are for, after all. ...at least they used to be. Nowadays I guess they're mostly used to pad out the game, but I still enjoy many of them.
The only 'sidequest' in the game (at least from playing the original) is farming the seeds that give your characters their ultimate gear once you've done the second class change. You could only get the seeds from one specific enemy that only shows up in the endgame dungeon, and it was down to RNG on whether you'd get the full gear first time around or the same pieces twenty times in a row. But it's not really a sidequest, more that JRPG trope of 'Do you want to spend ten hours getting everyone's ultimate gear to make the final boss more of a cakewalk?'.
I remember when the only way to play this game outside Japan was through the SNES emulator, and fans passionate enough to translate the whole thing to English so everyone could enjoy. This and Chrono Trigger were the first games I became truly obsessed with. Chrono Trigger has the better story, but SD3 has more replay value solely due to the class changes and character stories. For anyone looking to pick this up, I recommend a Duelist Duran-Bishop Charlotte-Grand Divina/Archmage Angela as your first party. With Duelist and Bishop, you get access to every single Saber spell (imbues weapon with elemental effect for bosses weak to it) except Dark Saber (which IIRC I rarely used outside of one boss). Duran is your bog standard tank regardless of class change, Charlotte is the fastest and best healer in the game as Bishop, and Grand Divina/Archmage is the most powerful offensive magic user with the best variety of elemental spells.
One of my favourite games of all time, up there with FFVI and Chrono Trigger in the same era. Great review, and I can appreciate why the reviewer feels more side quests can be added to flesh up the world better. Consider how well FF7R did with that, ToM could have done a bit more on that. That said, everything else is just so darn charming of this game, I can overlook that. One thing I wish the reviewer had mentioned is that insane amount of replay value of this game. Everyone should at least play the game twice to get all the stories of each of the characters, let alone trying out different classes and character combinations. A game that we've waited for 25 years, so happy it finally here.
FF7 and RE2 were great 90s remakes that don’t feel out of date. Trials of mana looks and feels like a ps2 game. Not that that matters in a game like this, but it’s a valid point
I think he was referring to the "conventionally attractive" female character in the game. Attractive women can't be strong characters! Well, according to them.
Chrono Trigger is my favorite game of all time, so part of me hopes you're right. The other part of me doesn't want them to touch Chrono Trigger, as I don't believe modern day Square Enix will respect the legacy of the original game or do right by its enormous fan base.
Mike V final fantasy was definitely NOT a test run for chrono trigger. That wouldn’t make much sense. However a majority of the fans don’t seem to even want a remake because they say it’s timeless but most want some sort of sequel. I personally never played the game but would like to try it
@@anttheknee1372 No I said ToM was a test run for possible further remakes from that era. FF7R is just extra experience and a foundation for FF8R/FF9R. And I dont understand why people would vote against a remake. Yes its an interesting new thing compared to the sequelization of gaming up till now. Unlike movies is very fascinating to see developers remake something from back then. To see how it looks and plays with todays technology and developing knowhow.
To be fari, while he did forget to mention the lock on feature the camera is still really bad even with it. That was honestly my only complaint with the demo as well. The game has a pretty bad camera compared to other 3rd person action rpgs. But camera is often kind of annoying in these types of games to begin with. It will take a bit of getting use too but likely won't affect the overall experience in a negative way.
Now you know why they are going downhill. Their so called "journalism" is terrible now. Too lazy to even go through a setting to solve a simple problem.
Dont think he played the original. He said combat was the same. I dont see duran swing his sword once then drag it on the ground like hes a kemo patient.
Don't worry. Behind the angry noises, they are still lining up and asking SE to take their money. Most of us are locked down and don't have better to do anyway.
I'm always going to have a soft spot in my heart for this game because it's how I made a great internet friend back in 1996. The next year we met in person and hung out and talked about all our interests.
Even if it doesn't have any sidequests if it takes 20 hours to finish one character 's story like you said then that's fine I say. Give my a JRPG with great and meaty main stories than tedious side quests anyday!
why? that game still looks gorgeous, plays absurdly well, and still is the best looking mana game bar none. that game is what sprite art is supposed to be.
@@LiveMusic821 i played for 10 hours and got bored with the overarching story that is literally every jrpg ever that i have played tons of times with no interesting content, if that game came out in 2010 it would be a lot better in my eyes but it's dated let's face the reality here. If you want to check out this decade's jrpg's there i persona 5 and dragon quest
Tinbeef I like my JRPGs More on handhelds but it depends really. DQ 11 on the Switch is the superior version because of the exclusive content for example.
Each character has at least 2 types of ending, depending on who is on your team. Also depending on who you choose as your main. I have already seen people using Kevin as main, but with different characters on the team, have different story routes and ending. Also sometimes you do get some special link abilities when you spoke to some NPC, so if you just skip speaking to all the NPC without the stars guide, then you will be going to miss out on those link abilities.
In all fairness the FF7 remake also has lock-on and goddamn can it be a headache a lot of times, even with it the camera can still have a hard time following you around, so I can see another Square game having the same problem
@xLttPx I mean, was the 16-bit Trials of Mana unique? Because if so, this remake is also unique since it classifies part of the game. The game is truly beautiful.
@@fellowmemer5693 I don't think that's at all how that works. The original stood out as being one of the most beautiful 16 bit games of the era as well as one of very few with an action approach to combat. Not dissing the remake, but it's coming out in a time where we have so many action JRPGs to choose from it's placement is moot. Charming game, but the remake is not at all unique
"throws every 90s jrpg trope" smh its from the 90s and its a jrpg....like what? its one of the games that started the jrpg trope. smh what are you even saying.
@@MFRIITIIR you get it, i mean they did it with monster hunter world to an extent... updated a bunch of annoying things the previous games had... Just to streamline it
Seriously, for someone who grew up with both the NES and Snes, the Switch is everything that I could ever need for a modern system with my play style and tastes in mind. It's telling when you look at my collection of Switch games and see a bunch of stuff that resembles what I used to play as a kid. Shmups, rpgs, action platformers, dungeon crawlers etc.
"You have to deal with pointless dialogue from npcs, but there are no side quests so you don't even need to talk to them!" So... you don't have to deal with the pointless dialogue, then?
@@melxb I read it, and it wasn't my first rpg. Yes i have played both and legends of dragoon. Funny thing is silver star story was one of the highest ranked RPG'S of all time, a cult classic so they say. I never saw anyone, anywhere not never ask for that remake.
Ashtarte no it’s not a remaster. What do you consider a remaster? Something like the N sane trilogy where the only difference is the visuals and some changes to control? Because what many people define a remake as is something created from the ground up which this is and so is the n sane trilogy while remasters are just ports with very little added.
There is 3 "different story line and bunch of antagonist". For having the most story element I recommand to play like this (Angela with Duran), (Charlotte with Kevin), (Lise with Hawkeye's). The third character that you choose is the less important.
Gotta note that some NPCs do give you group traits. Not very many, but some. From the ones that I can remember: Aurora sisters at the night's market, the fortune teller in Duran's city, the merchant that gets robbed in Hawkeye's story (when you visit the city later), one at the lava island.
Agreed. This was a legendary co-op game from a time when RPG co-op was hardly a thing. Why would they take that away? That’s one of the features that made the mana series so memorable..
around @2:30 they complain about the camera... A) it's really easy to manually control the camera, even mid combat & B) you could always just toggle the camera lock on feature to automatically do it...
Also worth mentioning that NONE of the dialogue has been modernized so some of the characters sound, well uh, awful. Kevin and Charlotte in particular have their character quirks amped to 11.
Man I wish this game had something like Very Hard mode because it's way too easy even on hardest difficulty. But hey that means that even games journalists can beat this game!
What, no comments about how the game took the item wheel and presented it in such a way that really FEELS like a modern reinterpretation? I wish more games did this... The hotkeys seem almost redundant because they don't give you that extra time to think
I want to play this version since I played through it in the collection, but not at $50. I'll wait for a sale. I believe there is a debate to be had for what makes a game a remake or a reimagining. This seems like a REMAKE as everything from the original is there with updates visuals, troupes and all. Whereas FFVII "Remake" was more of a REIMAGINING as it took what was great and added even more to it like new story elements and changing the combat style.
One The best SNES rpg’s next to chrono trigger and ffvi, I must have replayed the game 5-6 times due to how replayable it was. And every single Run felt epic
I actually downloaded this on Steam and I'm loving it. But I do agree with the camera angle - I'm using a Logitech Rumblepad and it's driving me a little batty. I was hoping to lock the camera, but I guess you can't. One note, with the unnecessary dialogue of NPCs in town, you can just look for a star in each town to find where the important dialogue is and aside from having to talk briefly with shop keepers, you can ignore everyone else and just go to the starred peeps for key info to move the game forward.
I agree with most of the the things in this review except for the need of side quests. This games rewards players for exploring around with items and newly added collectibles.
Just so you know. The camera style is called "Fixed Camera" we're YOU have to move the camera. I love "fixed camera" games. More control in game. No annoying auto cameras who think they know best angles.
I love this game, if i had to say something bad of it, it would be the english voices but that is easily fixed by changing them to jp, truly a masterpiece came back from the past
It's really good, I give it a 9.5/10. The boss battles are awesome, the story is just classical jrpg era, and the vibe is a throwback to the 90ies/early 2000s
I got the secret of mana remake and I regret buying it. For this one they say there are changes. I choose not to get it and remember Seiken Densetsu 3 for what it was, instead of the re-imagining they want to sell. That said, here is to hoping people who get this game do have fun with it.
Its crazy how manual camera was an issue with the reviewer. I actually prefer that because FF7 Remake had horrible camera angles during combat. In fact you could not control the camera at all during battle.
I rarely saw the tedious dialogue because I only talked to gold star NPCs... Until I realized NPCs gave you chain abilities... Now it's everyone on the map
I wish the Camera would follow behind you _outside_ of combat... but yet let you move it at the same time (it shouldn't follow if the player is actively trying to move it).
Chrono Trigger was phenomenal to be sure, but the mana series was made by the same company and Trials of Mana for the SNES was also incredibly impressive when compared side by side to CT.
@@nintandao64 Yeah, the Mana series was definitely amazing. But Chrono Trigger had this magic that no other game had during that besides Final Fantasy III. It was a game that came out of left field with nearly no marketing before release, very little attention and an absolute pleasant surprise. It stood out from the rest and it held up very well.
Even though trials of manais gonna be an amazing game and the score is fair. But your telling me that FFVII REMAKE deserves the same score as this game?
Actually, no npc sidequests is a big plus for me. Since my OCD forces me to do litteraly every sidequest available and dropping the game at the end because of being bored to too many sidequests...
you can lock on the target and the camera follows whoever you are attacking.
The Keef Crew if keef has to shout at you, you know you’re doing something wrong
That's IGN for you, even without the lock on feature the camera was just fine...
Eh luv ya keef. And yup these ign reviewers always mess up.
@@BowmansWorld watch this indy does make educational video games and also Indy does try out to make AAA quality games for PC and console using GPT three.
@@MatadorMedia the camera will be fixed with mods on the pc.
Woooo! Who else was playing this back in the day on ZSNES with a patched ROM!
I played this back in the day with a Japanese Cartridge but gave up on it because I couldn't understand what millions of items do so I replayed it from start to end on Zsnes with English Translation version, don't think seiken densetsu 3 came out officially in English, same for Tales of Phantasia, and bahamut Lagoon
“Thooose weeere the daaaaays!”
ok boomer
Yup!
@@VampireHunter666 tales of phantasia came out years later on the Gameboy advance in English
I really need Golden Sun to come to the Switch
Yes!
YES!
We really need a Golden Sun Remaster like this..
It was one of the best golden age RPG's of all time..!
ASAP
Wished
For people who have fear because of the camera, you can lock on enemy.
I was wondering about that when he talked about the camera.
While that's true it doesn't completely alleviate the issue
There isn't an option for it to switch targets on target death so you can find yourself in some janky angles in multiman fights
you have to re lock on manually after every enemy defeated which can get you killed in a bad spot
To be fair the game never tells you and when you look at the commands it doesn't show either, it's very strange. And I swear I tried during the demo the right stick and it did nothing. Tried again when I heard there was a lock-on and I was like "ooohhhhhh it changes everything". It's very bizarre the tutorial doesn't tell you about it during the very first battle considering how awful the camera is by default.
See that’s basic stuff that should be said in a review. For some people this can make or break a purchase. Appreciate it.
How can I lock?
Who here because they added it to gamepass
@@xoDeidara me hahaha
Is it worth it?
@@xoDeidara ✋🏿🥴
Apple Arcade
If its free on game pass, go on and download it and try it yourself. How lazy people are 🤦🏻
8/10
As long as it’s better than that piss poor Secret of Mana remake
Far superior.
I didn't think the SoM remake was _that_ bad, c'mon. Though I will admit Trials is definitely better.
The game barely worked and looked super generic!
I din't like the SoM remake also - basically it didn't give me anything new and it didn't also give me that nostalgia of the original.
But, much like the Secret of Mana remake, this remake is, too, vastly inferior compared to the original. Which is a traditional Square *_Enix_* delivery.
I wish this guy wouldn’t complain about the lack of side quest
I’m so sick of unnecessary side quest in games... give me a compelling story, that’s it
Well he's just saying he wanted more to do so he could enjoy his time in the game world more. That's what side quests are for, after all.
...at least they used to be. Nowadays I guess they're mostly used to pad out the game, but I still enjoy many of them.
I actually like the side quests of Witcher 3 more than the main quests
Esesem ssm yes it really depends on the game Skyrim’s side quests basically made the game.
The only 'sidequest' in the game (at least from playing the original) is farming the seeds that give your characters their ultimate gear once you've done the second class change. You could only get the seeds from one specific enemy that only shows up in the endgame dungeon, and it was down to RNG on whether you'd get the full gear first time around or the same pieces twenty times in a row.
But it's not really a sidequest, more that JRPG trope of 'Do you want to spend ten hours getting everyone's ultimate gear to make the final boss more of a cakewalk?'.
There's nothing wrong with filler quests to break up constant story progression
I remember when the only way to play this game outside Japan was through the SNES emulator, and fans passionate enough to translate the whole thing to English so everyone could enjoy. This and Chrono Trigger were the first games I became truly obsessed with. Chrono Trigger has the better story, but SD3 has more replay value solely due to the class changes and character stories.
For anyone looking to pick this up, I recommend a Duelist Duran-Bishop Charlotte-Grand Divina/Archmage Angela as your first party. With Duelist and Bishop, you get access to every single Saber spell (imbues weapon with elemental effect for bosses weak to it) except Dark Saber (which IIRC I rarely used outside of one boss). Duran is your bog standard tank regardless of class change, Charlotte is the fastest and best healer in the game as Bishop, and Grand Divina/Archmage is the most powerful offensive magic user with the best variety of elemental spells.
More like Thighs of Mana.
Lmao
Nice
@@toddhoward6989 Very true
I'm in
@@toddhoward6989 Are you complaining? :p
One of my favourite games of all time, up there with FFVI and Chrono Trigger in the same era. Great review, and I can appreciate why the reviewer feels more side quests can be added to flesh up the world better. Consider how well FF7R did with that, ToM could have done a bit more on that. That said, everything else is just so darn charming of this game, I can overlook that. One thing I wish the reviewer had mentioned is that insane amount of replay value of this game. Everyone should at least play the game twice to get all the stories of each of the characters, let alone trying out different classes and character combinations.
A game that we've waited for 25 years, so happy it finally here.
Chrono Trigger, They Need To Remake Chrono Trigger!!!
"Great '90s remake" and "out of date"
Never change IGN...
henkman00 masters of contradictions lol
FF7 and RE2 were great 90s remakes that don’t feel out of date.
Trials of mana looks and feels like a ps2 game. Not that that matters in a game like this, but it’s a valid point
so it's a great out of date game...
@@christopherbradley7149 FF7 The Retelling*
I think he was referring to the "conventionally attractive" female character in the game. Attractive women can't be strong characters! Well, according to them.
I'm starting to get the feeling we're gonna see a Chrono Trigger remake in the future and this and FF7R served as the test run for that game.
Chrono Trigger is my favorite game of all time, so part of me hopes you're right. The other part of me doesn't want them to touch Chrono Trigger, as I don't believe modern day Square Enix will respect the legacy of the original game or do right by its enormous fan base.
Mike V final fantasy was definitely NOT a test run for chrono trigger. That wouldn’t make much sense. However a majority of the fans don’t seem to even want a remake because they say it’s timeless but most want some sort of sequel. I personally never played the game but would like to try it
@@anttheknee1372 No I said ToM was a test run for possible further remakes from that era. FF7R is just extra experience and a foundation for FF8R/FF9R. And I dont understand why people would vote against a remake. Yes its an interesting new thing compared to the sequelization of gaming up till now. Unlike movies is very fascinating to see developers remake something from back then. To see how it looks and plays with todays technology and developing knowhow.
Mike V nah, chrono trigger is to big in content to be remaking. If they did work in chrono trigger remake l, imagine the contents they will cut.
@@danthovict381 bigger than final fantasy 7? im sure they will make a proper plan
I grew up in the “golden age” of JRPGs with the snes and psx; we are living in another golden age of jrpgs.
Same here.
Xenoblade is next month too. Truly a golden age although the Switch is missing the Goat’s, Final Fantasy 6 and Chrono Trigger.
So nostalgic seeing this game come back after playing it 20 years ago with the Dejap translation.
No
That's so true
Do a Final Fantasy 6 remake please. Imagine Sabin suplexes the phantom train in 4K 🤯
Sabin Rene Figaro A FFVI Remake in the Octopath Style would already be enough for me.
Lmao
Sure that will be coming to you in 2035 when they are done with ff7 remake
I mean 4k is just a resolution though....
Let them finish ff7 remake which is gonna take over a decade.
I really need a legend of dragoon remake!!!
Alex Ramos hear, hear!
No one cares what u nid.
🔥🔥🔥
Preach!
2:27 Uhhhhhh I seem to recall in the demo that there is a lock on system to deal with the camera. So it can follow you.
the demo I didn't even lock-on and never had an issue with the camera, think this is user-error. But hey this is IGN and they are really dumb
There's 100% a camera lock-on system. To criticize something for lacking a feature when it actually has said feature is just bad journalism.
To be fari, while he did forget to mention the lock on feature the camera is still really bad even with it. That was honestly my only complaint with the demo as well. The game has a pretty bad camera compared to other 3rd person action rpgs. But camera is often kind of annoying in these types of games to begin with. It will take a bit of getting use too but likely won't affect the overall experience in a negative way.
Now you know why they are going downhill. Their so called "journalism" is terrible now. Too lazy to even go through a setting to solve a simple problem.
You should not need to lock on to have a working camera. The criticism still stands.
"throws every 90's JRPG trope at you". He says that like its a bad thing?!
No he didn't?
@@PhantomGardener yes he did?
@@gabersen Not really tho?
Dont think he played the original. He said combat was the same. I dont see duran swing his sword once then drag it on the ground like hes a kemo patient.
Yeah but I kind of like that it kinda feels retro but how can a fantasy land feel dated?
*FF7 Remake changes a few things.*
Fans: Angry noises.
*Trials of Mana doesn't change anything.*
Reviewers: Angry noises.
Poor Square Enix...
Don't worry. Behind the angry noises, they are still lining up and asking SE to take their money. Most of us are locked down and don't have better to do anyway.
What have fans been angry about FFVII?
@@toxmuertos me... lol
Haha yep, can never win. But I personally have been enjoying both of them. FfviiR was phenomenal and this one I have been enjoying so far.
Different people want different things. We don't all have to agree just because you lump everybody together as "fans."
I'm always going to have a soft spot in my heart for this game because it's how I made a great internet friend back in 1996. The next year we met in person and hung out and talked about all our interests.
lemme guess. you ended up getting married with that friend?
Then never spoke again
We stayed in touch online for about 15 more years but we didn't meet in person again.
hidden gem? You mean not released in the US until 2019? lol
I played the demo on launch. That was my review that tells me the game is worth it
this is true
Demos are awesome
Really helps players decide if the game is worth their time
much moreso than legacy media on it's own
Even if it doesn't have any sidequests if it takes 20 hours to finish one character 's story like you said then that's fine I say. Give my a JRPG with great and meaty main stories than tedious side quests anyday!
It would be nice if you could find some secrets and lore when replaying tho
Let’s. Get. A. Legend. Of. Mana. Remake. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
why? that game still looks gorgeous, plays absurdly well, and still is the best looking mana game bar none. that game is what sprite art is supposed to be.
Absolute gem Legend of Mana was.
@@marcosdheleno Absolutely agree. Stunning art and magnificent music. LOM is still perfect even in 2020.
I wish they’d just rerelease it for the Switch as it is.
They did one of Final Fantasy Adventures too, on mobile, but I hear it isn't that great. That needs a reremake on consoles.
I trust this guy cause he reviewed octpath travlers like he really was into it
ew that boring game
ismail çalışır octopath was one of my favourite games ever . You probably couldn’t best Galdera . It’s okay.
@@LiveMusic821 i played for 10 hours and got bored with the overarching story that is literally every jrpg ever that i have played tons of times with no interesting content, if that game came out in 2010 it would be a lot better in my eyes but it's dated let's face the reality here. If you want to check out this decade's jrpg's there i persona 5 and dragon quest
@@kuvjason7236 Astral Chain was fun.
ismail çalışır dragon quest builders maybe when I was 8
Multiplayer is what made this series so much more popular. It needs it online and local, then it's 10/10
I've played through Seiken Densetsu 3 more times than I can remember. I'm HUGELY looking forward to playing through it again ♥️
What was your favorite team? I liked Star Lancer Lise, Archmage Angela and Lord Duran as a healer.
I don’t even know how many JRPGS I have on my switch this at this point 💀
1000?
@Anoose Gaming yeah i only get the exclusives switch games especially the 1st party ones. Makes no sense getting inferior ports of 3rd party games.
@@Tinbeef22 sure it does. Can you play your ps4 on downtime at work? Can you play it on the toilet? While you're making food? I need to play!
Tinbeef I like my JRPGs More on handhelds but it depends really. DQ 11 on the Switch is the superior version because of the exclusive content for example.
@@helpinghands7935 well to each is own. I learn alot from my rpgs basically go out and explore. Thats what i like doing when i go out.
nobody:
IGN narrator: " Charles of Mana "
hahahahaa i had to focus very much to actually hear what he really said I LOST IT SO BAD lol
Subtitles was on here by mistake here and it was written Charles Amina lol
Each character has at least 2 types of ending, depending on who is on your team. Also depending on who you choose as your main. I have already seen people using Kevin as main, but with different characters on the team, have different story routes and ending. Also sometimes you do get some special link abilities when you spoke to some NPC, so if you just skip speaking to all the NPC without the stars guide, then you will be going to miss out on those link abilities.
Not sure if you guys knew or not but there's a lock on feature in combat that can make it easier to manage in battle
gamerprince1999 lol
There’s a camera lock on feature, although I was able to use it in the demo I don’t see why it wouldn’t be in the full version
In all fairness the FF7 remake also has lock-on and goddamn can it be a headache a lot of times, even with it the camera can still have a hard time following you around, so I can see another Square game having the same problem
Jovan You can fix that in the camera settings but yeah it was rather jarring at times.
Now this game looks beautiful.
The graphics look amazing and the music is truly awesome.
This is a great and unique game.
I wouldn’t say unique.
edge lord I think we have the same relative interest...I've been seeing you everywhere lol.
Edge on!
@xLttPx I mean, was the 16-bit Trials of Mana unique? Because if so, this remake is also unique since it classifies part of the game. The game is truly beautiful.
ohitsmerenz In what way is it not unique?
@@fellowmemer5693 I don't think that's at all how that works. The original stood out as being one of the most beautiful 16 bit games of the era as well as one of very few with an action approach to combat. Not dissing the remake, but it's coming out in a time where we have so many action JRPGs to choose from it's placement is moot.
Charming game, but the remake is not at all unique
I’m hooked on FF7 remake right now. I’m not big on JRPG’s but the combat is stellar.
I did play the demo, the combat is very similar to FF7R so you might find this one to your liking as well.
Ff7 remake is sweet game!!!
You would probably like Xenoblade Chronicles 1 DE. It was planned to be FF7 before the Square Soft split.
@@helpinghands7935 thats Xenogear
"throws every 90s jrpg trope" smh its from the 90s and its a jrpg....like what? its one of the games that started the jrpg trope. smh what are you even saying.
He's saying what he literally said. They didnt update the more cumbersome aspects that they could have.
Dragon quest is the one that Started all the tropes >
@@MFRIITIIR you get it, i mean they did it with monster hunter world to an extent... updated a bunch of annoying things the previous games had... Just to streamline it
Relax fanboy
@@sup3rAVATARtlafAN I've never even played the series smh i just know my history.
Seriously, for someone who grew up with both the NES and Snes, the Switch is everything that I could ever need for a modern system with my play style and tastes in mind. It's telling when you look at my collection of Switch games and see a bunch of stuff that resembles what I used to play as a kid. Shmups, rpgs, action platformers, dungeon crawlers etc.
I want a Switch with the dual screens of the DS and U.
I'm definitely buying this for the PS4 and I hope they put this in a collection with the remake of Secret of Mana and Adventures of mans
We are in the golden age of JRPG again HOLY HECK!!!
Shivery we really aren’t my dood
"You have to deal with pointless dialogue from npcs, but there are no side quests so you don't even need to talk to them!"
So... you don't have to deal with the pointless dialogue, then?
There's a lock on system to deal with the camera issues you mentioned in combat.....
Does that mean a chrono trigger remake?? I wouldn't mind it if it's done right
I NEED A CHRONO TRIGGER REMAKE IN MY LIFE RNNNN
@@melxb humm, so amazing everyone keeps asking for it over chrono trigger, dont kid yourself.
@@melxb I read it, and it wasn't my first rpg. Yes i have played both and legends of dragoon. Funny thing is silver star story was one of the highest ranked RPG'S of all time, a cult classic so they say. I never saw anyone, anywhere not never ask for that remake.
@@melxb we saw cross in 3d, we never saw trigger in 3d and I'm pretty sure lunar silver star never got a 3d remake lol
Xenogears would be nice.
I cancelled my order for resi 3 to buy this instead. No regrets
Yaas Re3 is sooo disappointing compared to 2
I bought this over FF7 Remake.
No regrets either.
@@fyrflyr2378 Fair enough. I bough ff7 and trials.
@@alexinabox6931 It's a little shorter but it's still a fun game.
@@SteveTpenn It cut all the best bits from the original. Plus it just wasn't scary in the same way RE2 was.
They need to remake legend of mana
What I am thinking as well! I love that game!
That’s what I’m saying! The music and art was so captivating back on the ps1
Secret's of mana
@@melxb and I didn't know they remade that or forgot smh must have been trash
@@melxb >calling the SoM remake faithful
lolwut
I was feeling bummed out after finishing FF7...then I saw this and looks like my next AAA ARPG adventure is about to begin..! :D
This is not a triple A RPG release. This is a very, very faithful remaster. Probably too faithful in some ways like dialogue.
Definetly not AAA lol
Not triple A at all haha. Final fantasy 7 remake is triple A. This looks like a budget title. Still looks decent though
Ashtarte no it’s not a remaster. What do you consider a remaster? Something like the N sane trilogy where the only difference is the visuals and some changes to control? Because what many people define a remake as is something created from the ground up which this is and so is the n sane trilogy while remasters are just ports with very little added.
There is 3 "different story line and bunch of antagonist". For having the most story element I recommand to play like this (Angela with Duran), (Charlotte with Kevin), (Lise with Hawkeye's). The third character that you choose is the less important.
Third shall always be charlotte for heals
We need a Chrono Trigger remake more than this please Square Enix !
Absolutely
Gotta note that some NPCs do give you group traits. Not very many, but some. From the ones that I can remember: Aurora sisters at the night's market, the fortune teller in Duran's city, the merchant that gets robbed in Hawkeye's story (when you visit the city later), one at the lava island.
Looks fantastic! I’ll be digging in to this after I finish up Final Fantasy VII.
I’m a new gamer and this game was a perfect introduction to the RPG gaming style. In my opinion.
No local coop = no buy
Why even remake it if they're gonna take away features
Just release it 4 months later but have a full game
Agreed. This was a legendary co-op game from a time when RPG co-op was hardly a thing. Why would they take that away? That’s one of the features that made the mana series so memorable..
No one plays local anymore dude
local coop would have been a nice extra sure but... i wouldn't have had time to find / visit someone to play with anyway...
This is an great Remake to a classic Super Nintendo JRPG btw great review IGN
Very happy they even did this!! a dream come true
around @2:30 they complain about the camera... A) it's really easy to manually control the camera, even mid combat & B) you could always just toggle the camera lock on feature to automatically do it...
The best and most faithful remake of the year.
9.2 I say doesn't deserve less maybe 9.5 a fantastic nostalgie great game well done! Imo.
Also worth mentioning that NONE of the dialogue has been modernized so some of the characters sound, well uh, awful. Kevin and Charlotte in particular have their character quirks amped to 11.
I watched a video of Charlotte's voice and...yikes. Just a big old ball of Y I K E S.
If I remember correctly she’s the oldest playable character!
@@kainthedragoon8081 She is? I thought she was the youngest (15, looks 8 and talks like a two year old because she's half Elf)?
It's on sale eshop 24.99 for a few more hours! Just bought it thanks to Seth Macys review, he seems like a cool dude that knows these types of games.
I've just started my game, 15 mins in, and my only gripe is the running. I feel like the character is running with lead shoes on.
Hope the Star Ocean series will get some full remake love too. I do own this and am loving it though 16 hours in 3 days.
Man I wish this game had something like Very Hard mode because it's way too easy even on hardest difficulty. But hey that means that even games journalists can beat this game!
I never played the original game. Might pick this up when it goes on sale.
When did The Completionist start narrating IGN reviews?
heh
What, no comments about how the game took the item wheel and presented it in such a way that really FEELS like a modern reinterpretation? I wish more games did this... The hotkeys seem almost redundant because they don't give you that extra time to think
0:53 0 stars ripped off minecrafts nether biome
I want to play this version since I played through it in the collection, but not at $50. I'll wait for a sale. I believe there is a debate to be had for what makes a game a remake or a reimagining. This seems like a REMAKE as everything from the original is there with updates visuals, troupes and all. Whereas FFVII "Remake" was more of a REIMAGINING as it took what was great and added even more to it like new story elements and changing the combat style.
3:35 no compelling reason to talk to npcs? What about abilities you may get when you talk to them? not compelling enough?
@QUEENDOM would you need sidequests to complete the game if there were any?
Zephyrasable lmao I’m with ya, just beat the game, never haved played the original and man it’s one of my favorite Jrpgs I played.
a much better review than the gamespot one, I can even agree the camera angles are a little wonky at times.
One The best SNES rpg’s next to chrono trigger and ffvi, I must have replayed the game 5-6 times due to how replayable it was. And every single
Run felt epic
I need to try this game a 8 score is a bit hith for a remake
I actually downloaded this on Steam and I'm loving it. But I do agree with the camera angle - I'm using a Logitech Rumblepad and it's driving me a little batty. I was hoping to lock the camera, but I guess you can't. One note, with the unnecessary dialogue of NPCs in town, you can just look for a star in each town to find where the important dialogue is and aside from having to talk briefly with shop keepers, you can ignore everyone else and just go to the starred peeps for key info to move the game forward.
I agree with most of the the things in this review except for the need of side quests. This games rewards players for exploring around with items and newly added collectibles.
Just so you know. The camera style is called "Fixed Camera" we're YOU have to move the camera. I love "fixed camera" games. More control in game. No annoying auto cameras who think they know best angles.
I loved everything in this game besides the voice acting and story. The story isn’t bad, but it has so much potential to go the full mile
I love this game, if i had to say something bad of it, it would be the english voices but that is easily fixed by changing them to jp, truly a masterpiece came back from the past
Pretty sure I remember a lock on for combat in the demo...
I woulda KILLED for Secret of Mana to get this same remake treatment.
The switch is basically a jrpg workhorse
I wish they had crammed just a bit more power into it so the ports ran better.
Justin Dodd me too but some companies are making a great job porting some games
Indie ports are mostly really bad unluckily
I kinda see the switch to be an Indie workhouse, ps4, PC is what have most JRPG's.
Crazy to think the Wii U only had like 3 RPGs while the switch has so many it's hard to keep up
It's really good, I give it a 9.5/10. The boss battles are awesome, the story is just classical jrpg era, and the vibe is a throwback to the 90ies/early 2000s
i never played this game before but i'm hype for this. definitely my kind of game.
I might buy it today something new
If you played THIS remake in childhood, you have the best childhood.
Love this game! Beautiful remake! Well done Square Enix!
Beautiful game, proof we don't need graphics and sound that are technically impressive, just tastefully done art.
Hoping for Legend of Mana remake too (T - T)
I got the secret of mana remake and I regret buying it.
For this one they say there are changes. I choose not to get it and remember Seiken Densetsu 3 for what it was, instead of the re-imagining they want to sell. That said, here is to hoping people who get this game do have fun with it.
Waiting for Legend of Mana 🔥
yes please!
Its crazy how manual camera was an issue with the reviewer. I actually prefer that because FF7 Remake had horrible camera angles during combat. In fact you could not control the camera at all during battle.
Remake: It needs to be more faithful to the original...
Also Remake: It's too faithful to the original. 🤷🏿♀️
i bet this is exactly how developers feel isn't it, they just can't win!
I rarely saw the tedious dialogue because I only talked to gold star NPCs... Until I realized NPCs gave you chain abilities... Now it's everyone on the map
No sidequests? What about the lil cactus? And the black rabite boss? Explain yourself!!!!
The Black Rabite is not a new addition, but yes, there is definitely new content added.
@@magus13131 right but it is a side quest. He said there was none. Just strange
@@TheDetectingZone It's less a side quest and more a secret boss
Chrono Trigger, Golden Sun and Secret of Evermore next please 🙏
Guy who reviews this sounded very passionate! Made me more invested in the review, and I trust his opinion. A lot more :)
Yeah he sounds like he knows what he's talking about.
I wish the Camera would follow behind you _outside_ of combat... but yet let you move it at the same time (it shouldn't follow if the player is actively trying to move it).
3:21 - So, you love it when a remake is faithful to the original, then complain when it's too faithful to the original?
At the very start of the video he clearly states “This faithfulness is a bit of a double edged sword”
"Most beautiful 16 bit game" wait my dude, hold up: Ranger X.
Rather play be in a huge world with no sidequest than a single expanded city with repetitive sidequest.
The could also be a 3D remake of Live-a-Live and Bahamut Lagoon.
How about Treasure of the Rudras? Probably a nightmare to localize, but not altogether impossible as the fanbase has proven...
"...the most beautiful 16-bit RPG that was ever made."
You haven't played Chrono Trigger, have you? :)
Chrono Trigger was phenomenal to be sure, but the mana series was made by the same company and Trials of Mana for the SNES was also incredibly impressive when compared side by side to CT.
CT not beautiful but masterpiece he not wrong
@@nintandao64 Yeah, the Mana series was definitely amazing. But Chrono Trigger had this magic that no other game had during that besides Final Fantasy III. It was a game that came out of left field with nearly no marketing before release, very little attention and an absolute pleasant surprise. It stood out from the rest and it held up very well.
@@kirarayukihara4860 It was definitely both beautiful AND a masterpiece! :)
@Shaman Xeed I disagree. Chrono Trigger had bigger and better sprite design compared to Mana in my opinion.
Even though trials of manais gonna be an amazing game and the score is fair. But your telling me that FFVII REMAKE deserves the same score as this game?
Looks like Square Enix did more effort here than the other Remake!
lol imagine thinking this.
Lemuel Dave Narciso yes
In what way?
Actually, no npc sidequests is a big plus for me. Since my OCD forces me to do litteraly every sidequest available and dropping the game at the end because of being bored to too many sidequests...
you complain about camera, yet you dont use lock-on mode
and you can set ur AI members to avoid battle
Certain abilities can only be learned by talking to certain NPCs so not talking to NPCs will put you at a disadvantage