Ranking IT and Cybersecurity Jobs by STRESS LEVEL and Salary
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In this video, various IT and cybersecurity jobs are ranked based on stress level and salary, providing viewers with insights into the demands and rewards associated with each role in the tech industry.
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01:32 Part-Time Help Desk
02:04 IT Specialist
02:23 Junior Network Admin
03:11 Cloud Support Engineer (Intune)
04:10 Point of Sale Admin (SCCM)
04:55 Desktop Admin (SCCM)
05:19 Senior Cybersecurity Analyst
06:03 Consultant (Automation Engineer)
06:52 Senior Cybersecurity Engineer
07:29 Cybersecurity Program Manager
07:52 Principal Security Analyst
08:53 About the correlation between stress and salary
09:56 Conclusion
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Discover the most and least stressful IT and cybersecurity jobs and see how much they pay!
This video breaks down the roles in the tech world, helping you understand which IT and cybersecurity positions are the toughest and which ones make the most money. Whether you're thinking about a career in tech or looking to switch jobs within the industry, this video is perfect for you.
We rank various tech roles from high to low stress and discuss the salaries for each. Learn about the demands of each position and what you can expect in terms of workload, responsibilities, and compensation. From system administrators to network engineers and cybersecurity analysts, we cover a wide range of jobs in the tech sector.
This guide is ideal for students planning their careers, professionals considering a change, or anyone curious about where their job stands in the tech industry's Stress vs. Salary scale.
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Working with Marines: "Ultra confident, mean, dont actually know what theyre doing"
Yep. That checks out.
I'm trackin' ya... we trackin' 😂
Finally a guy who is not scared to talk about his salary…
Haha thank you
Incroyable.
I could be wrong, but Josh is the first TH-camr who’s open and honest about salaries.
Incroyable.
Not sure about that IT Specialist job, that pay seems high for that role.
@@buenogoodlive it all depends on the state.
MA has higher salaries than IN
@@buenogoodlive Also depends on what the job req entails. Some IT specialist roles do sys admin work and some, some are basically just glorified helpdesk.
180,000 "Ya know when your pay is kinda high" SIR
Low compared to other fields or professions
@@49erman2Lol what
Time clearly has the strongest correlation to your salaries (wink wink, that's the hard truth for some people). I wish you would have discussed how many years you've been working. No one just getting into cybersecurity will be a "senior" anything, no matter what degree certs etc you might have. There are very specific ways to bypass this ladder and make a lot of money in this field FAST, such as the security clearance, changing jobs often, having good contacts, starting your own business, and more I'm probably not thinking of.
holy cow. 160k subs!?! I have been following you since less than 10k! congrats on all your success Josh!
Thanks so much!!❤️🔥
We doing our best out here, haha
I agree about the cybersecurity jobs in that once you’ve been doing it for a while it’s not really that hard. In my experience it’s always the people who make it stressful. Especially on Government contracts. Most Government leads are incompetent A-holes.
what;s a while (hours)?
@@Ricocase something around 5k hours, in my experience
@@Ricocase if you are measuring in hours, you are going to be disappointed
This times 1000, but some civilians are just as bad. Had the misfortune of working for a company that somehow the cybersec lead got permission for a bottomless budget. It was so frustrating that they'd buy & implement all these tools at the same time w/o fully training people AND, arguably more important, tailoring them to the company's needs.
Now this is a cybersecurity youtube video. Great job! Thank you.
Glad you liked it! 😍
I have been an IT specialist for over 20 years. However, the level of stress depends on many factors. Because of the few resources I had, incompetent managers and because we were always understaffed, I had a bad nervous breakdown a few years ago. I'm just saying that one morning I passed out at work and woke up inside an ambulance. A couple of years ago I changed my life. Less money, but my health certainly gained.
Your editor has been killing it. 🔥
Sounds about right. A couple of years ago I had the opportunity to confirm a career theory: low value jobs don't pay much & stress increases as you try to progress (over all difficulty increasing); however, there's a moment of maximum confinement that once you get past it, it's like an explosion. You're treated really well, paid well & stress begins to go down.
Thanks, great breakdown
Josh
Your consistency is inspiring. Thank you for all you do.
Nice breakdown. I feel like I would have never been able to ace an interview if it weren't for your homelab Active Directory tutorial, thanks again!
Thank you, and good job!!!
I’m stressed just learning cybersecurity
It should be fun. Don’t force yourself
@@0xC47P1C3 Right, just your take time in time it does get pretty interesting 😊🥰 I say this because I myself I'm learning it's a bit difficult in the beginning but once you start to grab the basics, stuff tends to be easier from there.
Great stuff
Man, you been everywhere. Great Stuff. ✌🏽😎
Haha for real, thank you :)
Very interesting, thanks for sharing your experiences in this aspect. Never considered these factors...it's got me thinking. Cheers!
Glad it was helpful! :D
Its amazing how having to work with certain people/customers can make or break a job in this field.
I agree with Josh. When I worked on Department of Defense (DoD) projects in San Diego, the work was high-value and the salary was good, although not overly challenging. However, there was a lot of stress because I had to be on call in case something happened, even if it meant coming in at 2 AM. I didn't mind it earlier in my career, but I wouldn't do it now. Many cyber security (CS) and information technology (IT) jobs these days are just boring.
Really? Boring? 😢😭
Every IT job is on-call.
Yeah working on call shifts suck if you aren’t paid to take the call and overtime.
Super helpful Josh! Thank you for this video, my take on it, based on your chart I think riding out IT specialist is the way to go, if you’re not chasing money. Awesome video!
I agree and the pay is more now in my market
Thank you for sharing ❤❤
So cybersecurity analyst is the best all around. High pay and relatively low stress
Unless there’s a BREACH. Then you’ll be stressed
@@TerikaSaidIt depends if it's my data or not lol
I'd like to go that way, cybersecurity hold my beer
Thanks I’ve been wanting to do cloud support now I know what to expect
Stress are highest in positions where you have to delegate work to other people but you don't carry much authority. You basically at the front if the barrel when other people fucks up.
Both in positions where you produce work by working heads down or you are a major decision maker authority, stresses are quite low.
Truer words have never been spoken lol
Interesting!😃
Hi Josh,
Love your videos and all the resources you provide. I have done hour vulnerability project using Nessus and really want to do you current course you have out. Have you consider including payment plan for your class? Like one of these pay in 4 type thing for those who can pay it all upfront.
Thanks for all you do
"It's annoying because people don't cooperate." I don't think any truer words have been said about GRC.
I experienced this very thing when I was working in my fintech company previously....I was doing a bunch of IT support stuff I didn't want to be involved in with a WAF project and freakin' engineering teams were a nightmare to collaborate with for certain key infrastructure changes being put into place. So glad I got out of there.....doing a 100% software developer role for a defense contractor now.
This was excellent. Have your course saved. The syllabus is great!
Great to hear it!!
There is little correlation between pay, stress and difficulty IME.
My previous gig was 10-hour days with toxic leadership, cutting edge/difficult code (reactive programming) and free nights and weekend support. My current gig pays far better, sticks to 40 hours and is honestly so boring I'm getting antsy. No huge uptime/performance needs, etc.
There's definitely a correlation between salary and job order. Makes sense, seniors get paid better than juniors. I think that should have had some effect on the formula since it otherwise puts less value on positions where you weren't promoted as highly
Josh, what do you think about going into cloud, and then pivoting into like cloud security or even cyber?
Thanks, Josh. I really appreciate it.
Support job = most stressful and difficult.
Totaly agree. 💯
In most cases, it's a low paying, stressful job where you are not valued that much by the company, but you are in first contact with the custoner, and you're expected to come up with answers similar to what a Solutions Engineer (salary of $120k +) does while doing it in a "timely manner" to avoid SLA breach.
I've been preeching this for years that if you end up in a support role in IT, your #1 priority should be to do whatever it takes to get off of that job. 🙏
I sure as hell know that the grass has been much greener ever since I moved on from tech support.
I think the biggest factor for stress is the company culture and your manager. This list really doesn't give any sort of measure of culture or management, therefore, doesn't provide any real guidance other than the pay rates.
Totally agree, I've been in Cyber Security for 2 years and my knowledge is increasing everyday, sometimes you get tasks that you just simply cannot do and your managers are breathing over your shoulders expecting you to know everything. Asking for help will only get me weird stares and most likely gonna get shouted at.
@@David-ce1ux I've been in the game awhile but keep at it David!
and your co-workers
@@craigcj5953 yeah true.
This is interesting. I'm currently at WGU studying for Cloud Computing but am still at the CompTIA A+, Net, Sec phase and debating about how soon after completing those to start job hunting and also if I should pivot to Cyber Security, but since where I live there's a Microsoft that does quite a bit with Azure, I've so far felt like that's the best long-term opportunity. It's interesting see the salaries and perspective. Thanks.
For me I started applying when I started at WGU no certs and had minimal luck. It was after A+ I started getting traction but I found employers were really interested in my ITIL cert for some reason. So start applying today
Hey josh! Love the content really enjoyed your perspective on the Gambit of your jobs and their titles. I did have a question about stress versus pay in your opinion. What do you think about GRC roles in the cybersecurity space? I.E as it relates to stress versus pay. And also enjoy your opinion on the difficulty level also.
I'll make a video response to this now! Basically, it really depends on your personality. GRC is arguably one of the most chill areas of cyber because you are sort-of exempt from having to deal with incidents and panic and having to be on all. But the bad part is, you have to basically do behavior modification on humans, in the sense of get people to follow policies and policies and stuff once they are in place. If you are chill with that and are OK with taking weeks or months to get the simplest of tasks done, then GRC will probably be OK.
I couldn't deal with this because I was spending a lot of energy and people were just making my job difficult, haha
@@JoshMadakor Thanks for the response. I am just finishing up the Google Cybersecurity Certificate and have been loving your content.
Thank you. Have you done GRC? Where would it fall on your list? Thanks.
Yes I hope he sees it and reply. Also the cyber security auditing.
It would be cool to see how long you spend doing each job. Also accounting for inflation, how much would your salary be for the earlier jobs like IT Specialist or Junior Network Admin?
Awesome
obviously anecdotal. But still, great info, thanks! 😮 now can you did a video on how you got those jobs 😂
Hey Josh! I was wondering if your course, roadmaps and advices are also suitable for non-American audiences, especially Europeans. I'm sure they are, but are there any differences we should be aware of? Except the WGU problem with international students we all know. Thanks!
Hey Josh, I recently found your channel and i love your videos!
I was wondering what's the best certification in cybersecurity to have, to be able to work remotely?
Or is a job in IT better?
@JoshMadakor
My current situation is I’m starting my bachelor degree in Cybersecurity at UMGC and got Secret Clearance from the military and starting a new mos as an 25B. Did the google cert and playing on doing sec+ and currently doing cisco cybersecurity analyst.Any way for me to get more experience that I can apply on resume? Or resources I can use?
Do his IT & Cyber course
Hey Josh can you talk more about what you did to move to Japan for the security clearance ? I would love to do something similar.
He just posted a video about how to get a clearance. I have one myself. It’s accurate
@@TerikaSaidIt oh cool thanks!
Reasonable people are really essential, money becomes meaningless if the guys around you gets to your nerves for no real reason.
Lets goooo
Hey Josh, I want to get into tech, but idk what to do. I don't have a degree, but I wanted to get certifications in either Cybersecurity or Web Development, but then again I look at how the job market is and also I don't have a degree so I guess Cybersecurity won't be good for me. I was also thinking about Coursara, but idk how that is.
Hello Mr. Madakor. I love watching your videos and am considering working in the IT field. Would getting a university degree in IT be worth it? There are some options to "hack" university and spend less money and time there, but I am not sure how much a degree would benefit me. I know many companies value experience more than a degree, and that you have a course to help people get a job quickly. I was wondering what your thoughts are on this?
Thank you for your videos! They are a tremendous help!
Please do one with positions that do not require a lot of meetings.
Which certs do you recommend before taking your course?
As a marine i completely agree with your statement that’s why im getting out😅
Senior Cybersecurity Analyst is the build that you want guys... keep it balanced and farm that money!
Hi Josh. With the help of your videos, I have chosen to study a Bachelor of Information Technology at a local university, and because it was my best subject at school - so thanks! The problem is, I must also choose a major, and don’t know what I should choose - I have a lifelong neurological condition where I tend to experience worse symptoms in times of stress. 😢 I need something that doesn't require too much energy/ time or isn't too difficult/ stressful (as one of my symptoms is fatigue 😢), and need good work/ life balance. My choices are:
-Data Analytics
-Enterprise Software Development
-Business Information Systems Management
-Interaction Design, and
-Networking and Cybersecurity
Do you have any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
Just started on my path to CISO
I was in the Marine Corps for 5 years as a communications and network maintenance technician, and was in Japan for most of that time. I would love to know which unit you had your unfortunate experience with, as I was always pretty impressed with our comms operators and they rarely needed my help as a maintenance guy.
Hey Josh, are you gonna patch the OpenVAS lab? Its having some issues
I won't patch OpenVAS lab though, OpenVAS is not really good honestly, I mean it's free at least.. I'm making a new product/community that will teach/use Tenable, which is a proper enterprise vulnerability management platform. I fully licensed it and have created several labs. It's almost done :).
thumbnail is accurate! lol
How long do you think it took to get to that technical competence threshold that makes cybersecurity jobs easy?
Probably about 1500-2000 hours of technical effort (this equates to a full time job for a year if you are trying your best), then a couple years of working with people. If you understand the fundamentals of what cybersecurity is about (think CIA triad) and have a good intuition of those really mainstream technologies/software (firewalls, SIEM, DLP, VMs, Active Directory), it becomes easy to adapt to new environments and understand what needs to be done.
@@JoshMadakor thats great. Looking to get to that point
Lobe this videos
Hello I've been considering a career change. Do you mind letting me know the timeframe you have per job?
Mine is incredibly aggressive (6-12mo). Since 2016, spending more than a year is kind of rare for me. This is probably due to ADHD or some other personal issue I have, but 1-2 years per job would not be unreasonable.
is your cybersecurity course appropriate for someone with no experience?
yes ^^
How'd you make the jump from desktop admin to senior cyber security analyst?
❤😊
Is it worth doing a Bachelors of Cyber Security? its what is being offered here in Australia in a university for free.
It's worth it for certain price points. For sure if it's free, haha
I think the value you gain from jobs can be based on many factors for different people, salary being a main component obviously.
For example, in my current position as a SOC analyst, I make more than I've made in the past and it's my first FTE security position out of college. Which already makes it incredibly valuable on top of the insane number of days off I get to focus on hobbies. However, the value comes down a little due the fact it is incredibly easy, and while I like easy, I wish there was more to be done and more opportunity to hone and develop skills on the job.
Do you have any or are working towards any certs? I am going to college for cybersec and trying to get a SOC analyst job
You won't get a lot of training/skills/opportunity on the job these days. There's not a lot of upward mobility in jobs anymore, as they want to bracket your salary into a range that can't actually be exceeded by market value. This is why job hopping has become a lot more prevalent than working your way up in one company. Enjoy the pay for an easy job while you level up your skills outside of work.
Man we work so hard to get a job just to become a slave to the system
Wow from desktop admin to a senior cybersecurity analyst how were you able to pull that off? You didn't even go thru a junior cybersecurity analyst role and nor I'm assuming you dont have previous experience work as a cybersecurity analyst.
If easy is that easy, why is everyone is stressing about cyber jobs?
It's one of those scenarios where it's hard to break into the field, but once you're in, the jobs are really not that hard TBH. (I'll make a video response to this)
@@JoshMadakorwhat exactly do you need to learn for some of the lower stress and lower level jobs? How much math is really involved? And have you done anything with software engineering?
@@JoshMadakor looking forward to it
Hey Josh, how would recommend dealing with those who don't want cooperate on the job?
Make sure you got a paper trail so when blames starts getting tossed around the management knows where to put it
*senior management*
@@tannerlee9631 Much Appericate it thank you !
i got my sec+ a month ago and i still have a year left of having an inactive secret clearance. i’ve applied to a bunch of jobs only heard back from two. both had aptitude test that contained coding which i know nothing about . any tips ?
Where are you applying?
Learn a coding language it's just how it is anymore. Python is a great start and is being used heavily with AI. I also have a sec+ and studied QA automation with Java but think its already outdated and easily replaceable by AI. So I'm learning Python.
I can contest about Marines (i am one myself) should of had some box of crayons available to keep us tame and quite 😅
Sounds like mostly I'm afraid and scared to fail
Is GRC that stressful!? I've heard from other working professionals that it's the least stressful cybersecurity job!
Can you do a video on certs for cyber security
Check it out: th-cam.com/video/XOxR7ZGpQSk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=1UVWj95TTqPPb9KW
Can comptia security + get me a help desk job if I cant find a cybersecurity job?
Short answer: It's possible
Long answer: It's possible, but if you have to do a lot of other stuff as well.
Watch this video for a full explanation, it will help a lot: th-cam.com/video/N-pskzV_WQk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=qWQCq_ew8jsBFI1u
woo hoo third comment ... mentor josh
Um did you rate Pen tester as well ?
I never did pen testing full time 😆
Honest
Hey Josh is it possible to pay you for a consultation?
I used to do this but it got difficult. I'm going to be making a community where I'll do bi-weekly live calls though! Maybe it will be done next month (i hope)
@@JoshMadakor sounds good, looking forward to it. Thanks Josh!!
How many years have passed since your Part-Time Help Desk job to now?
How long did it take you to reach 97k??
Way too long. I think like 11 years or so, because i spent 8 of those years going from 50k - 75k 💀
If you did real cyber you would have a diferent outlook
So more money more problems. Life sucks sometimes!!!!
Too bad you werent doing GRC
Can you not say that the jobs are easy? You might inspire some employers to offer lower salaries
Employers will ALWAYS offer lower salaries 😂 .. those slimy knuckleheads 😅
Ok, I'll stop saying it
Part of that is inevitable, the market is what dictates the price. As long as there is a higher bidder for a service then the pay will be there. However, high paying IT is more of an American concept. Perhaps this is because of how boring and nerdy the field has been typecasted for decades. When I travel overseas techs can't believe how much we get paid, they get a fraction of it and on average they may be more skilled. The companies that realize that start to outsource. This is where AI gets scarier because eventually that annoying language barrier and/or "accents" can be erased.
@H3d3h1d1 So basically, it'll be over for cybersecurity soon
Its always and mostly likely the human component that makes a job stressful 😂😅🤦
Analyst tend to be low stress because their responsibility is pretty low.