yeah, i wish the "zss sucks" meme was only a meme but in reality she's like the worst top tier in the game, she gets nothing but pathetic damage and "stage control" with her grabs and throws, she lacks kill confirms, her only kill aerial is bair because dair is a sd move, it's rough.
Doesn't happen as often in this meta anymore, but this time, yes. Which is why if people truly want to know who are the most skilled players, a new game with rebalancing so that the broken characters aren't busted anymore is the only way you are going to convince. Because otherwise most watchers assume results = skill level which is not always true.
@@lucaspittman9067 Seeing you everywhere defending Steve/Onin, either you're a fanboy or a steve player. Steve requires a lot less fundamental skill than ZSS to get easier kills and higher %'s.
@@jfudge9732I haven't followed ssbu in a long while but the consensus I've seen online is that zss is one of Steve's worst matchups. Not to discredit marss' talent, but I don't think onin had it any easier this set.
@@jfudge9732I commented like 3 times? Also yeah obviously, Steve is the best character in the game, but this is top level play and I think it’s lame seeing comments like “this player is ultra carried by Steve and has no skill” which is obviously not true.
@@GUT5S It’s because this game is awful. Leo will 100% lose to Acola simply because that guy plays Steve and Steve cheats against every character Leo has. How is this supposed to be fun? Why hasn’t Steve been patched simply for his stupid minecart.
@@justice8718Dawg that’s such a loser mindset, if Leo loses it’s because the person played better, more than anything in this game if you’re good enough you can win against any character and any player. Accola is a fantastic player and you don’t get 3rd as your lowest placement in a season because of a character, he’s simply that consistent and good of a player.
If I had a nickel for every time Marss beat Onin at Smash Con in a game 5 last hit situation I’d have two nickels, which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it happened twice
@@Contrary22 yeah but running into the same player and having a near-identical result (down to the ending) at a tournament this size, reading is hard I guess
The thumbnail literally is the same compare to last year’s SSC (Supernova) LMAO. The only difference is last year’s match between these two is the qualifier to top 32, This year’s match between them is to decide who goes winners or losers in top 24. Amazing bracket run so far from Marss as he already upsets Sisqui, Miya and Onin in Phase 3 （seed 33rd btw); And he will be facing Sparg0 in tomorrow’s top 24 winners side!
I hate to be that guy, but holy wow Steve is a cheap ass character lol no hate to the players tho. But block camping is so annoying to watch, not to mention play against.
"No hate to the players tho" bro those words make this comment such a breath of fresh air in this section. I fkn hate watching steve but bro people should really learn to distinguish the player from the character.
I was rooting against the Steve the entire time as well, but Onin really did play spectacularly. Being able to bring it to game 5 last stock after that first game shows some seriously good mental.
This is why I can’t stand Steve players. Onin is literally ape braining mindlessly spamming cart and anvil, gets read like a book the whole set, continuously going high recovery despite the fact that he’s lost countless stocks because of of it… And it was still 3-2 with a last hit last stock. Such a brain dead character. Gg Marss
25 minutes to watch a fraud auto pilot while an actually interesting player has to pull out every single trick they have in order to beat that. The state of smash is so depressing.
Jesus Christ. Again, the way onin having like 10 years less of smash and competitive experience and yet can steamroll better players than him so consistently is insane, im glad seeing marss win
Im gonna say this hate the character not the player if you that guy just know youd never make a top 8 :) Respect to both players being Onin and Marss for a hype set :)
If I had a nickel for every time Marss beat Onin at SSC/Supernova in a game 5, last stock, last hit scenario with a big pop-off afterwards, I'd have 2 nickels. Which isn't a lot, but I'm glad that it's happened twice.
Can anyone tell me what song was on for i think game 3 and 5? The non-brass parts remind me of an old sega genesis game called bio hazard battle, an old side scrolling on rails spaceship shooter
Its impressive to see how even the commentators are focusing around Marss. Steve is such a boring and pushed character that there is almost nothing to say about it. All steve do the same thing and it worls where the opponent must be better and outplay Steve to win. Steve do not push creativity, it doesn't entertained. This character is ass and no one care about Steve players, even the better ones are carried. Well played Marss. ZSS may sucks but it is very entertaining.
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Reminder that marss won against miya off stream
It was a 3-0 too
3-0ed him too
My king
EEvisu and EastGeekSmash both managed to record the set.
@@PuppetMasterIX do u have the footage?
as the 33rd seed too. What a mad lad.
I can’t believe he did this minutes after 3-0ing Miya. Marss is on a roll!
and here i am wondering wtf miya is lmao
@@HitoriSanzo Mia is a top level game & watch player from Japan
@@HitoriSanzo 2nd best in the world
@@basket-music8717 Sonix has better results and it's not even close, I'd even argue that he isn't top 4 anymore.
@@axr1798miya is still the current number 2 in the world, albeit boosted living in the best region with tons of A tier events
Imagine if he beat Miya just to lose to the same dude he beat last year
"I will minecart because it is strong" 25:18
Hahaha yeah lol he literally bringed out minecart out of nowhere😂 braindead steve player
He wasn't upset at himself because he mindlessly minecarted, he was upset bc he should have built one more block on his backstop.
They don’t think. They’re so used to have all the carried factor with them
He also could've lived if he DIed the back air better
@@brendanmohareful nope, he was upset cause no kill screen means bad DI
LG Marss = Luminosity Gaming Marss❌
LG Marss = LETS GO MARSS✅
Yo i can finally see lg marss in a major
How refreshing! For the first time in years there are no steves in winners side LFG! Hopefully we get a new champ soon
No Steves or Sonics in winners, hopefully they all get eradicated
Nature is healing
This would have happened a long time ago if they never banned Steve. The character(or atleast the Steve players) is getting worked out
@@rizvan1632 They never banned Steve lol
@axr1798 not at smashcon but they did at a bunch of majors and a lot of locals and regionals. Also at coinboxes that a lot of people use to practice
You know your character fucking sucks when you start a fresh stock against someone at 134% by running in the opposite direction of them
Lol
yeah, i wish the "zss sucks" meme was only a meme but in reality she's like the worst top tier in the game, she gets nothing but pathetic damage and "stage control" with her grabs and throws, she lacks kill confirms, her only kill aerial is bair because dair is a sd move, it's rough.
@@HitoriSanzoi mean, she's still a top tier at least... true tho
@@LakeEatsDirttop tier is like top 10 bro…
@@instant7856 depends on who u ask. imo top tier has like 15 characters
Get microspaced 15:18
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強いマーズが見れて最高に嬉しいよ。SPの初期から強いプレイヤーが再び活躍するのを見ると胸が熱くなる
Marss providing content and views for more than one channel.
THE WORLD IS HEALING LETS GOOO
THATS MY CONTENT CREATOR
Better player won
Doesn't happen as often in this meta anymore, but this time, yes. Which is why if people truly want to know who are the most skilled players, a new game with rebalancing so that the broken characters aren't busted anymore is the only way you are going to convince. Because otherwise most watchers assume results = skill level which is not always true.
Wooohoooo! Get the Steves out of here
Why does Marss look like he went through a stoner phase
He used to show up to his matches in pajamas bro, you didnt see that coming?
@@Kapow59yeah always did find that odd. Imagine just being known as the pajamas guy
@@peachdevils3893 I mean you show up with what you find comfy, I respect the pajama guy
Wonder if him and his long time girlfriend broke up
bro needs a haircut fr
I NEED to know what he said during that pop off lol
Slowed it down to read his lips. Looks like he said “I’m the best” or “I’m back” twice. Couldn’t really tell what he said after that.
Maybe “it was simple”. Really can’t tell the last word tho.
@@therealivysaur i would say we should ask him on stream at some point but he will probably swear on his bloodline he said "zss sucks"
I was there he said “Ggs man! Your Steve is really good haha! Hope to see you again in grands”
@@HealTy13”just like last year” 🔥
Marrs 3-0 Miya this tourney btw
its crazy how much better ZSS has to play to win this.. Mars definitely the better player
Idk about that, Onin was panicking at the end but they played very well that whole set and ZSS is one of Steve’s few losing/very even matchups.
@@lucaspittman9067 Seeing you everywhere defending Steve/Onin, either you're a fanboy or a steve player.
Steve requires a lot less fundamental skill than ZSS to get easier kills and higher %'s.
@@jfudge9732I haven't followed ssbu in a long while but the consensus I've seen online is that zss is one of Steve's worst matchups. Not to discredit marss' talent, but I don't think onin had it any easier this set.
@@zannax351 According to both Acola and Onins own matchup chart ZSS is an even matchup.
@@jfudge9732I commented like 3 times? Also yeah obviously, Steve is the best character in the game, but this is top level play and I think it’s lame seeing comments like “this player is ultra carried by Steve and has no skill” which is obviously not true.
Cant wait for Marss analysis of this set so we know what he said at the end
The way mars is playing is like he’s threading a needle. Beautifully done
Marss outplayed Onin so hard the entire set. It's insane how much better of a player he is.
crazy how far pressing Steve on the character select can get you against someone fundamentally 10x better than you
@@GUT5S It’s because this game is awful. Leo will 100% lose to Acola simply because that guy plays Steve and Steve cheats against every character Leo has. How is this supposed to be fun? Why hasn’t Steve been patched simply for his stupid minecart.
@@justice8718プレイヤーの努力で勝てる以上公平だよ。あcolaがsparg0やhurtに対してスティーブを封印しているように。
@@justice8718Dawg that’s such a loser mindset, if Leo loses it’s because the person played better, more than anything in this game if you’re good enough you can win against any character and any player. Accola is a fantastic player and you don’t get 3rd as your lowest placement in a season because of a character, he’s simply that consistent and good of a player.
Doing tricks on it
23:12 the Marss taunt goes so hard.
I was screaming my head off at this set.
Almost fainted when Marss won lmaoooo.
So glad I got to see this live!!!
Good shit Marss!
You love seeing the better player win.
Mars isn’t even ranked top 50 bro
@@Syrup-n3t Rank schmank.
No ones ready for mustache and beard marss
If I had a nickel for every time Marss beat Onin at Smash Con in a game 5 last hit situation I’d have two nickels, which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it happened twice
Actually only once Bc this is supernova
@@lgschaefit's the same thing
You would technically only have one nickel.
This is Supernova. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
It's not weird. Better player won both times.
@@Contrary22 yeah but running into the same player and having a near-identical result (down to the ending) at a tournament this size, reading is hard I guess
Marss is truly a veteran at smash ultimate and a steve slayer and a game & watch slayer. Fuck YESSSS. Rooting for him all day tomorrow
Seems like marss baited onin into letting him get materials so he could minecart then punished him for using it loll
Yeah he had his back turned to onin the whole time. No zairs.
Return of the king
The thumbnail literally is the same compare to last year’s SSC (Supernova) LMAO.
The only difference is last year’s match between these two is the qualifier to top 32,
This year’s match between them is to decide who goes winners or losers in top 24.
Amazing bracket run so far from Marss as he already upsets Sisqui, Miya and Onin in Phase 3 （seed 33rd btw);
And he will be facing Sparg0 in tomorrow’s top 24 winners side!
BRO MINECARTED LMFAOOOOOO
WE LOVE SEEING STEVE LOSE🔥🔥🔥
For the last 10 seconds of the game Marss was jumping with his back toward Onin, not swinging. He was just waiting for the minecart
This needs more views
It’s just came out. Give it a couple days
Marss vs Onin at Smash Con is becoming a hood classic
On in? I thought it was O-nin ?
It’s pronounced on in but everyone says onin
@@Syrup-n3t if he wanted to be onnin he shoulda spelled his name onnin, onin is absolutely pronounced oʊnәn
Screw steve.
Marss destroying Steves is the best in supernova tournament so far
The fact that Marss shows up when he wants to and tears things up is great.
saving smash one dead steve at a time
Man, Fatal blooms in moonlight in the background of the first game, i knew this set was going to be a banger 💔💔💔
man, that guy from Holes is pretty good, huh
I hate to be that guy, but holy wow Steve is a cheap ass character lol no hate to the players tho. But block camping is so annoying to watch, not to mention play against.
"No hate to the players tho" bro those words make this comment such a breath of fresh air in this section. I fkn hate watching steve but bro people should really learn to distinguish the player from the character.
"That Side B Was Sooooooo Cleeeaaaannn" 😫💅
must be the beard powerup, good shit marss
Beating Steve with a low tier like ZSS… Imagine that.
Low tier?
Depends on who you ask. According to Marss, ZSS may even be bottom tier 😉
I was always suspect of the claim that ZSS sucks but this set has shown me the light
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Marss is actually the hero of smash, beating the GnWs and the Steves like it's another monday
Poor Onin seems to be bothered by the noise of the crowd at the end there. He's covering his ears and has a look of anguish. Poor guy
So cool to see low tier heroes like Marss perform well ❤
This was such a freaking hype set my LORD I was sweating
I looooove the way Marss plays, there's no one like him
First time I ever popped off of a set. Marss is too fun to watch man.
get rekt onion steve
Bro's crying because he couldn't cheese his way to a win LMAO
Better player alert..
That last game was a nail biter. Marss's movement was insane.
I swear Marss saves all his talent every year for Supernova/Super Smash Con, the sets he's had before even getting into Top 8 are absolutely insane
Holy shit that movement replay!
Mars my 🐐
"Onin played valiently" Onin the Steve player
I was rooting against the Steve the entire time as well, but Onin really did play spectacularly. Being able to bring it to game 5 last stock after that first game shows some seriously good mental.
Steve being broken doesn't make it easy to win. Onin was playing well too
@@innertuber4049it’s Steve. Dropping a game is embarrassing
@@SilencedSounds123 sounds like you just found your golden ticket to first at a super major! Excited to see you on stream!
@@SilencedSounds123 u can say that about any character losing bruh
killed with the same move game 5 last stock
This is why I can’t stand Steve players. Onin is literally ape braining mindlessly spamming cart and anvil, gets read like a book the whole set, continuously going high recovery despite the fact that he’s lost countless stocks because of of it… And it was still 3-2 with a last hit last stock. Such a brain dead character. Gg Marss
That’s how you play the character, Lamo
25 minutes to watch a fraud auto pilot while an actually interesting player has to pull out every single trick they have in order to beat that. The state of smash is so depressing.
Ban Steve. More hype characters in tournaments please.
it doesn’t surprise me that someone who struggles with accepting something as simple as gender just so happens to play steve
What a battle! So tense and so crazy, what a battle
Marss is a god! What a performance. Defeats the villain and keeps it pushing
Marss HYPE
Steve haters bullied Onin so hard he changed his pronouns.
Huge respect to both players, what a great game to spectate
マーズのファンクラブどこ？？？？？？？？？？？？？？かっこよすぎるんだが？？？？？？？？？
おにん痩せた？
イケメンになってる！
This remind me the second Zeke vs Levi encounter from SNK:
Onin: What?! Ahhh we fight again!!!
Marss definetly saw that wario clip who moved just like that on their opponent in the corner in game 3 of this set.
The skill level of these players isn’t even close. One is literally tilting and walking and the other is defining style.
great commentary !!!
Lets gooo the final minute of that game 5 was so hype
MY FUCKING GOAAAAATTTTTT
WE EATIN’ IN RHODE ISLAND TONIGHT!
カッコ良すぎるよマーズ
Jesus Christ. Again, the way onin having like 10 years less of smash and competitive experience and yet can steamroll better players than him so consistently is insane, im glad seeing marss win
Steve is why
Isn't it "oh-nin" not "aw-nin"? Or did it change
Imagine losing with Steve
I liked that part where Onin walked away and held down the B button. Shit was fire. Steve hype af, dude.
Im gonna say this hate the character not the player if you that guy just know youd never make a top 8 :) Respect to both players being Onin and Marss for a hype set :)
i support this comment 100% i think it’s hilarious how you misspelled both onin and marss tho lol
@@marinadavies1917 Spelling is not my strongest sometimes :)
@@AuriSR its ok, happens to the best of us
Just wanted to say, at the end of game 2, Onin has amazing nails
If I had a nickel for every time Marss beat Onin at SSC/Supernova in a game 5, last stock, last hit scenario with a big pop-off afterwards, I'd have 2 nickels. Which isn't a lot, but I'm glad that it's happened twice.
Can anyone tell me what song was on for i think game 3 and 5? The non-brass parts remind me of an old sega genesis game called bio hazard battle, an old side scrolling on rails spaceship shooter
Onin really just minecarted in neutral at the end huh
This Marss guy is pretty good. He should try content creation on the side
Marrs is the greatest to ever play this game😤😤😤
Marss going through the Steve gauntlet and winning LFG
Its impressive to see how even the commentators are focusing around Marss. Steve is such a boring and pushed character that there is almost nothing to say about it. All steve do the same thing and it worls where the opponent must be better and outplay Steve to win.
Steve do not push creativity, it doesn't entertained. This character is ass and no one care about Steve players, even the better ones are carried.
Well played Marss. ZSS may sucks but it is very entertaining.
Massive respet to Marss consistently challenging and stuffing out minecart even if he could die doing that.
Marss beating Miya, satisfying.
Marss beating Onin, everything is right in the world!
GOATTT
Question is there a good coach that speak spanish? Would like try it out
The amount of work Mars has to do to make this matchup work is gross. Bros sweating like crazy to make it favorable for him
Marss remains them who he is ...he is the zss goat 🐐