@@pinkpenzu I genuinely hope they don't kill off Vic. It's just such an obvious plot thread, showing Penguin's ruthlessness and making it symbolic with him killing his younger more innocent counterpart. I can feel it coming, but that's also why I don't want it to happen. The show has done well to subvert expectations so far, constantly surprising us with what happens next. It would be a downer for it to end in such an obvious way. It would be refreshing for Vic to go down this dark path and not immediately pay the consequences. Show the reason why kids like him get swallowed up by the Gotham underworld. Penguin needs a few henchmen to boss around, right? I mean, wouldn't it be cool for a more confident Vic to appear in The Batman 2? He wouldn't even need to do anything, just opening the door or standing behind Oz in the background would be enough. But nah, he's probably dying...
This show is going to sweep the Emmys, mark my words. Every scene and every sentence feels like it has a purpose, as all great writing should. HBO smashed it out of the park with this one. Every second is just exhilarating.
You gotta keep in mind that Victors family also died BECAUSE they were poor. People in their neighborhood died because they didn't have the means to live in the more affluent neighborhoods that were spared or protected from the flooding. Money is power in Gotham and it is always better to be powerful than powerless.
Joker 2 wasn’t made by DC tho, it was made by WB without the help of any DC studios creator because they wanted it to be separate. James Gunn tired to give the joker 2 director notes but they didn’t use them oh well that’s on WB not DC
yeah they are. otherwise, crime and corruption wouldn't be so rampant in gotham. there's a reason why bruce wayne had to adopt the batman persona instead of using his family's wealth and influence to change the city's system. the city is so fucked up that he had to resort to violence and fear to keep those criminals and supervillains at bay.
a man needs to prove he is better than me, rather than show me his birth certificate - tommy shelby I feel like penguin is guided by a similar principle... a lowborn who climbed his way up in a world of suppression
23:37 she was taking note that oz had someone close to him. Remember Eve said she was worried about Sofia showing up to her doorstep, because oz used her as alibi
I love this show, everything down to the little nuances are written/acted so well, feels like a full on mob boss series, hopefully they do multiple seasons
Fire episode 🔥 I think Oz left Sofia because now he knows his cover is blown because if we remember he still in it to screw of Sofia so that's how good The Penguin is 😆 also the bliss drug I've gotta feeling it's linked to Pison Ivy
i wonder how the season will end because i think it was made just for one season but now that its a big hit they have to be thinking about more seasons
Ive heard they want this show to bridge into the next movie. So i kind of wonder if they are going to tease any other known batman characters before the end to setup the next movie. Or if it is just gonna be batman v. Penguin
There's rumors that batman is going to cameo in the final few minutes of the final episode. If you remember, crime has increased more than 40% in gotham after the riddler incident. There's no way batman would stop after that much crime activity
@@theanimeboy9953 Colin Farrell already said in a interview that Batman is not going to be on the show because they wanted this to be a penguin project. The show is just a bridge between Batman 1 and Batman 2
@@theanimeboy9953 I don't think Batman "stopped" as much as it's just a huge city and the penguin hasn't popped back on his radar yet. Plus he might be sitting and thinking hard about his role in inciting people like the riddler to take their own form of vengeance.
@@stormnation8910 i mean yeah that's true, but actors sometimes lie on interviews. i want to stay optimistic and think that batman or bruce wayne will at least show their face or be mentioned in the final episode, which will give us a hint at how batman 2 will start
@@WritebyNite42 yeah, you're right. he might be thinking hard about how his actions created the riddler. but perhaps he left gotham temporarily to train in some other place? idk. just something to ponder
Episode 1 started with Penguin pointing a gun at Vick and he stuttered his way out of it. Episode 8 will end the same way, but Vick confidently calls out Penguin and he kills him this time 😭😭😭
They gave access to all 8 episodes to a select few, for a reason. So, when you or anybody else spoils the series by telling everyone information about upcoming events, it makes a hard case for the network to withhold further access for anyone.
@@loydwalters4334 It wasn't a spoiler, it was a theory. I hate spoiler alerts as much as anyone, but nothing wrong with predicting how the season ends. I hope I'm wrong! Vick is great
Vic realized that oz was right. It isnt in vic's nature to just go and run, because he wanted something bigger and better for himself, compared to what his father, an honest man, got
Just asking the guy in blue to the left end does he have a sleep problem I asked this because i noticed in a lot of videos he kinda dose off like it's hard for him to keep his eyes open ?
They aren't going to make this the DC universe, because they aren't going to be able to balance something like this with superheroes. Don't get me wrong, it COULD be done, but Warner Brothers isn't going to do it, and the filmmakers and showrunners they get to make grounded, realistic stuff like this aren't going to want to compromise what they are doing by adding superheroes and the supernatural.
Dude james gunn himself said this batman universe is completely separate from his DCU. This batman universe is gonna be separate and on its own, which in my opinion is much better. Because we DC fans get the best of both sides, on one side we get the more superhero and supernatural side of the DC universe, and on the other side (this side), we get the realistic and grounded version of DC, which focuses on batman
First dude on left, facts!! Why wouldn’t you make this the DCU??!! Best take on Gotham, Batman, villains; you really think anyone can improve this to compete with MCU??!!
that's a possibility considering the bliss drug was originally made in arkham, where doctor jonathan crane aka the scarecrow could work. or, it could be made by doctor hugo strange, another villain and top scientist at arkham
I have a theory! The first 2 episodes made us believe that Sophia was the hanged killer! We also saw Oz's mother twice. But in the third episode, we are made to believe that Sophia is not the hanged killer and if I'm not mistaken, we don't see Oz's mother in the episode! The hanging killer would be the penguin's mother!
It's a huge possibility that her father is the real hangman ...his method for killing women was strangling, and all the victims were strangled... but if they stay canon then Sophia is the hangman like in the comics.......she did kill a kid with no issue just to prove a point so I wouldn't be surprised
@lanvan.384 we were right but there's always that possibility she really is crazy and just doesn't remember how crazy she was ..that could be a plot twist
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one cool thing is that sofia calls Osawald's place tacky and Graciela calls it bougie. Just showing the difference in their class upbringings
sofia also calls it understated
This ep showed me 🐧 only care about 3 people his mom, his self, an vick anybody else getting snaked💯
In that order, too.
Word. He been plotting on these mobsters for a while and now he's out to get them all ended lol
I think he will kill vick to truly become the penguin
No I think both Vicky and the mom died and he becomes penguin@@pinkpenzu
@@pinkpenzu I genuinely hope they don't kill off Vic. It's just such an obvious plot thread, showing Penguin's ruthlessness and making it symbolic with him killing his younger more innocent counterpart. I can feel it coming, but that's also why I don't want it to happen. The show has done well to subvert expectations so far, constantly surprising us with what happens next. It would be a downer for it to end in such an obvious way.
It would be refreshing for Vic to go down this dark path and not immediately pay the consequences. Show the reason why kids like him get swallowed up by the Gotham underworld. Penguin needs a few henchmen to boss around, right? I mean, wouldn't it be cool for a more confident Vic to appear in The Batman 2? He wouldn't even need to do anything, just opening the door or standing behind Oz in the background would be enough.
But nah, he's probably dying...
This show is going to sweep the Emmys, mark my words. Every scene and every sentence feels like it has a purpose, as all great writing should. HBO smashed it out of the park with this one. Every second is just exhilarating.
You gotta keep in mind that Victors family also died BECAUSE they were poor. People in their neighborhood died because they didn't have the means to live in the more affluent neighborhoods that were spared or protected from the flooding. Money is power in Gotham and it is always better to be powerful than powerless.
This is a top tier show 🔥
It's so crazy how Vic had to watch that flood happen, but it was so interesting how they brought the trauma back in the club later in the episode.
nahhhh this show is fire man
Joker 2 wasn’t made by DC tho, it was made by WB without the help of any DC studios creator because they wanted it to be separate. James Gunn tired to give the joker 2 director notes but they didn’t use them oh well that’s on WB not DC
😅 Joker 2 not connecting "directly to" DC is the best thing that could've happened to the DC universe in a while ..
Its still DC. It uses DC characters in a city from the DC universe, Its just Elseworlds like The Batman’s universe is
Gotham PD are easy af to bribe 😂
Lol true. There’s basically one clean cop and his name is Jim Gordon.
This is still before gordon is commissioner so the whole police force is still gonna be very corrupt
@@ProjectMathesar if the Gotham police stop you just throw money in the air and leave 🤣
@@ProjectMathesar do not forget officer martinez, i think he's one of the good ones too
yeah they are. otherwise, crime and corruption wouldn't be so rampant in gotham. there's a reason why bruce wayne had to adopt the batman persona instead of using his family's wealth and influence to change the city's system. the city is so fucked up that he had to resort to violence and fear to keep those criminals and supervillains at bay.
a man needs to prove he is better than me, rather than show me his birth certificate - tommy shelby
I feel like penguin is guided by a similar principle... a lowborn who climbed his way up in a world of suppression
23:37 she was taking note that oz had someone close to him. Remember Eve said she was worried about Sofia showing up to her doorstep, because oz used her as alibi
I think the Maronis told Sofia the truth before Vic arrived. That's why Oz had to abandon her coz she'd kill him.
yeah we dont know how much was revealed to Sofia before Vic arrived
Vic going through it this episode 😂😂
I love this show, everything down to the little nuances are written/acted so well, feels like a full on mob boss series, hopefully they do multiple seasons
This show is top shelf stuff
This show is amazing..
One of the best shows on rn
I'm kind of surprised how charmed I am by Oz. He's a villain, but I like him. Excellent acting, writing, and directing. I'm loving this show.
From Barback to King-Pin is a story arc I'm here for. By the time The Batman 2 comes out everyone will be rooting for Oz and Vic over Bruce.
Fire episode 🔥 I think Oz left Sofia because now he knows his cover is blown because if we remember he still in it to screw of Sofia so that's how good The Penguin is 😆 also the bliss drug I've gotta feeling it's linked to Pison Ivy
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i wonder how the season will end because i think it was made just for one season but now that its a big hit they have to be thinking about more seasons
Ive heard they want this show to bridge into the next movie. So i kind of wonder if they are going to tease any other known batman characters before the end to setup the next movie. Or if it is just gonna be batman v. Penguin
There's rumors that batman is going to cameo in the final few minutes of the final episode. If you remember, crime has increased more than 40% in gotham after the riddler incident. There's no way batman would stop after that much crime activity
@@theanimeboy9953 Colin Farrell already said in a interview that Batman is not going to be on the show because they wanted this to be a penguin project. The show is just a bridge between Batman 1 and Batman 2
@@theanimeboy9953 I don't think Batman "stopped" as much as it's just a huge city and the penguin hasn't popped back on his radar yet. Plus he might be sitting and thinking hard about his role in inciting people like the riddler to take their own form of vengeance.
@@stormnation8910 i mean yeah that's true, but actors sometimes lie on interviews. i want to stay optimistic and think that batman or bruce wayne will at least show their face or be mentioned in the final episode, which will give us a hint at how batman 2 will start
@@WritebyNite42 yeah, you're right. he might be thinking hard about how his actions created the riddler. but perhaps he left gotham temporarily to train in some other place? idk. just something to ponder
Episode 1 started with Penguin pointing a gun at Vick and he stuttered his way out of it. Episode 8 will end the same way, but Vick confidently calls out Penguin and he kills him this time 😭😭😭
They gave access to all 8 episodes to a select few, for a reason. So, when you or anybody else spoils the series by telling everyone information about upcoming events, it makes a hard case for the network to withhold further access for anyone.
@@loydwalters4334 It wasn't a spoiler, it was a theory. I hate spoiler alerts as much as anyone, but nothing wrong with predicting how the season ends. I hope I'm wrong! Vick is great
The way that played out, Vic coulda got on the bus and been safe
And Oz wouldve died
Vic realized that oz was right. It isnt in vic's nature to just go and run, because he wanted something bigger and better for himself, compared to what his father, an honest man, got
There was nothing he could do... Its. Smarter to go
How good has this show been? It’s incredible…. So damn good
This show is so damn good
The background music where vic was talking to his girl at the penguin crib, what's the name
6lack - Switch
Just asking the guy in blue to the left end does he have a sleep problem I asked this because i noticed in a lot of videos he kinda dose off like it's hard for him to keep his eyes open ?
Y’all look like a row of PAC Sun mannequins😂
Yall gotta watch more batman animated movies
They aren't going to make this the DC universe, because they aren't going to be able to balance something like this with superheroes. Don't get me wrong, it COULD be done, but Warner Brothers isn't going to do it, and the filmmakers and showrunners they get to make grounded, realistic stuff like this aren't going to want to compromise what they are doing by adding superheroes and the supernatural.
Too bad imo, but I reckon your right
What are you talking about? This is literally a bridge between Batman I and II and the plot of the movies is following the No Man’s Land comics
Dude james gunn himself said this batman universe is completely separate from his DCU. This batman universe is gonna be separate and on its own, which in my opinion is much better.
Because we DC fans get the best of both sides, on one side we get the more superhero and supernatural side of the DC universe, and on the other side (this side), we get the realistic and grounded version of DC, which focuses on batman
@@jademermaidmusic I know that. I was responding to the guys in the video wanting these to be connected to the DCU.
@@theanimeboy9953 Correct, and I agree. I think it's better this way. Maybe that wasn't clear from what I said.
First dude on left, facts!! Why wouldn’t you make this the DCU??!! Best take on Gotham, Batman, villains; you really think anyone can improve this to compete with MCU??!!
Where are episodes 1 -2
Penguin or Joker 2?
What if the drug is like a fear toxin and that’s how they show scarecrow origin
that's a possibility considering the bliss drug was originally made in arkham, where doctor jonathan crane aka the scarecrow could work. or, it could be made by doctor hugo strange, another villain and top scientist at arkham
🔥🔥🔥🔥 show fire
Love seeing my man wearing a shirt from my favorite team. Go Pats baby 🏈🔥🤟🏼 phenomenal show penguin is
I have a theory! The first 2 episodes made us believe that Sophia was the hanged killer! We also saw Oz's mother twice. But in the third episode, we are made to believe that Sophia is not the hanged killer and if I'm not mistaken, we don't see Oz's mother in the episode! The hanging killer would be the penguin's mother!
It's a huge possibility that her father is the real hangman ...his method for killing women was strangling, and all the victims were strangled... but if they stay canon then Sophia is the hangman like in the comics.......she did kill a kid with no issue just to prove a point so I wouldn't be surprised
@@coreyharvey8953i’m convinced carmine made her take the fall in his place
@lanvan.384 we were right but there's always that possibility she really is crazy and just doesn't remember how crazy she was ..that could be a plot twist
@@coreyharvey8953 ah i doubt it she’s already killed everybody
Joker 2 wasn’t made by DC it was made by WB
Joker 2 was good
too bad we’re getting james gunn’s universe instead of matt reeves universe 🤮
L take
Rage bait used to be believable
We’re getting both, actually
@@stormnation8910 we were getting an arkham show in the reevesverse and gunn shut it down
@@teriyakipigeon1838 you’re a little behind on the news bro. Reeves just announced that it’s still in production
well too bad Superman Legacy won't be like this it's just going to be like the MCU I can already hear the boring jokes
Like this terrible take 🥱🥱
Superman would never be like an HBO Crime show. 😂