Everything GREAT About How To Train Your Dragon!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ส.ค. 2016
- Pete's Dragon is out and after watching Jeremy yell at Chris throughout that video I'm glad I chose How to Train Your Dragon for this week. Not a movie many didn't like, but here's everything right with How to Train Your Dragon anyway. Next week very large things.
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3:40
Toothless briefly hesitates before moving forward to meet Hiccup's hand. This was actually a glitch, but they liked it so much that they decided to leave it in.
That scene gives me the shivers every god-damned time I see it. Even just that short clip, out of context. Possibly one of the best scenes from any movie ever.
Strange how a glitch matched perfectly with the scene
"not a bug it's a feature" in all his glory
It was the same with his eye when he was tied up. It was meant to be closed and I'm glad they kept it cause its just pure creepy when you aren't expecting it
@lII Jack IIl You be talking like you worked on it.
Ok so How to Train Your Dragon has LITERALLY the best soundtrack, let’s talk about that for a second.
HELL YES, this movie has my favorite soundtrack of any animated anything ever
absolutely. i get chills everytime i hear it
It's a really good one, but WALL-E and TRON: Legacy beats it.
Definitely for American Animated films, but Japan’s anime’s are INCREDIBLE and definitely on par with this
Test drive is my alarm to wake up in the morning
"My wife bought a Jeep because it reminded her of Toothless"😂😂
Something I'd totally do, if we had the space for a jeep
So did my grandma
Who wouldn't
It’s incredible how much that Jeep actually *does* look like him though. Just need to get into a bit of a fender-bender and knock off the left bumper.
My mom has a black trailhawk. She named it Toothless. I think I almost just died.
Cool fact: The scene where hiccup and toothless fly for the first time (Song called Test drive) Is actually toothless's theme and hiccups theme melded together which is why it's such an impacting moment. It shows them melding together visually and musically at the same time!
Awesome!
Yup and when one is trying to be in control, it switches to their theme song alone
Test Drive is one of my favorite songs ever
Thanks for the info, I did not know this, AWESOME!!!
Musical win!
Something you didn't touch on is Toothless' understanding of apologies. Its only when Astrid apologized to Hiccup that Toothless calmed down and flew more gently. More important, Toothless didn't reveal Hiccup to be alive at the end until he heard Stoic apologize. Then he unfolded his wings revealing that he had saved him.
Huh, I never noticed that last part
The moment with Stoic felt like "that was for capturing and trying to kill me" too
dragons are clearly sentient and understand at least some english. the scene where toothless draws hiccup is proof, because not only does toothless recognising the drawing mean that he's self aware and knows what he looks like, he also understood that the drawing was a representation of him (which means he can abstract) and responded by creating his own representation of hiccup using a similar tool.
they're sapient. maybe not *as* smart as humans, and they've still got a lot of animal-like behaviours, but they're not *animals*
@@mathze also, since he was able to make a good enough drawing of the Light fury implies he practiced lol
@@mathze actually he does that in every movie and it's always when meeting someone. First was hiccup, then hiccups mom, then the light fury. And It might be because he's doing what him and hiccup did in the first movie or he thinks that you draw the person you meet. I figured the last bit a few days ago but the first was a while ago. I've posted three more comments on other videos about this same thing but still thought I would tell you.
6:23 One thing I particularly appreciate about this scene is how previously Toothless couldn't manage to escape that big hole in the ground even after days of attempts, yet now he nails it immediately since he's rushing to save his friend... that's powerful
Yea. I completly agree
In my mind I feel like he didn't have the strength to escape since rope and not enough energy through struggling and all of that but he met hiccup and hiccup was his friend and didn't want to leave him even though he could escape . . . He just never had a reason too escape
I mean i guess it might be the adrenaline that you get when you know someone that you care about is in trouble so everything you do is not impossible anymore
@@saddendtone It was also likely from him starving… It’s implied he didn’t have great access to food since he couldn’t get to the ocean. Meaning he’s weak and hungry.
@@DoKuShOsTaR And also couldn't catch what fish were in the pond. Poor boy. :(
Duh duh duh we’re dead
My fave line in the whole movie
The line I quoted at Final Exams
RAAAAAARGH! Mornin!
Mine is "Thank you for nothing , you useless reptile"
I love the lines ‘They’ve killed hundreds of us.
And we’ve killed thousands of them!’ It so powerful to me
What about the sheep. You know the one I am talking about
I feel like the door bouncing open again is to represent how their relationship isn't beyond repair and foreshadows then reconciling later.
It is possible, in animation evberythink is created, so they actually though about it "Doors won't close, just bounce". But it could also be to see Hiccup facial expression in light after this, and closing doors would not help in that
"But what I realized at Cortega... was I didn't lose Rex when he crashed. I lost him here. I let him think that a stupid motor company meant more to me than he did. He'll never know how much I regret that mistake. It's enough I'll never make it again. Speed, I understand that every child has to leave home. But I want you to know, that door is always open. You can always come back. 'Cause I love you." - Pops Racer - Speed Racer (2008)
Did anyone else notice the amazing foreshadowing? First scene of the movie he says, "I'll kill a dragon, my life will get infinitely better, I might even get a date."
Then Hiccup kills the Red Death and that's exactly what happens.
Nah
He rides Best dragon and then gets girlfriend
DustSans nah the ride just made Astrid notice him in a new light. Him saving everyone and killing the dragon and paying sacrifice is what got him the girl, even though they are skittish about the relationship and don’t officially get together until 3 years have passed.
@@JoshCreepa ik
Just Joking
Except losing a leg any thoughts on how that happened
Rhonda Welch Toothless bit on it to pull Hiccup into his wings to protect him from the fire. Gumming the leg would give no grip and Hiccup would have just slipped from Toothless and into the fire.
When Hiccup raises the dagger, what Toothless does just breaks my heart, he's too ready for his death.
Ooooohhhhh i like your profile pic
Yea toothless knows that’s just how it is and accepts it
Well he knows he can't escape he's obviously been trying for days and probably thought he'd starve and being killed like that would be much quicker and less painful
@@prestonlogan3808 I don't think it was even a full day
@@prestonlogan3808 It's so depressing that you are telling the truth. As I became an adult, I am convinced that this franchise was not only for children. All the touching music and relateable characters still inspire myself. And this mentioned scene is an example of why it's also for adults, it shows us a broken character, who was waiting for his death and saw his way out, after he spent days realizing he will never fly again. ,,A downed dragon is a dead dragon.“
I love these movies, they work as a Comedy, but even better as a Tragedy. The sad moments are always making me tear up.
I love the way Astrid and Hiccup’s relationship plays out, too. At first, she thinks he’s weak, a coward. But she slowly grows to appreciate his best qualities. Namely, his ingenuity, mercy, and genuine bravery for even daring to tame a Night Fury. She grows to like him as he is, and lets her tough girl exterior break down a bit to let him in. It’s really heartwarming and sweet.
Also that in the sequils, she doesn't become some bland girlfriend character.
@@WinterPains THIS! AND they show her being friendly to the new guy in httyd 2 WITHOUT forcing a love triangle
@@gingechicken7394 to be fair, a love triangle would be stupid after how much they've been through together, so even if they wanted to, it was wayyyyy too late. They were already engaged actually I think.
@Ralexcraft exactly, but lesser writers would have done a love triangle bc they think that a couple has to go through one to be strong or prove that they're valid, which just simply isn't true
*befriend a night fury
Fun fact:
Toothless hesitating before putting his head under Hiccups hand was a glitch, but they liked the scene so much they decided to keep it in. A true demonstration of how mess ups can be amazing in result. (Not all the time though, obviously.)
I've heard that the bit where he moves his wing to reveal an open eye was also a glitch. They liked the creepiness factor.
@@dbseamz wheres that?
@@Victoria-bs7jf when Hiccup first finds Toothless tangled in the weighted snare. When the camera is from Hiccup’s first person POV as he slowly approaches Toothless, the angle change means one wing is briefly obscuring Toothless’s eye. The eye was supposed to stay closed and then open while Hiccup (and the camera) were watching, but the open eye appearing from behind the wing was a neat effect so they left it in.
@@dbseamzoh cool, thanks! I always thought that was cool chilling factor that added to the unknown "scary" factor of him, interesting to find out that it was a glitch
In the immortal words of Bob Ross: "It's a happy little accident."
CinemaWins has a wife? That's a win for you.
Aw man, I was going to say that! Fine, I'll do, Cinemawins, you have a dog? That's a win for you.
how about CinemaWins you exist thats a win for everyone
And a dog!
+TheZurreal no is win, is a doom xd
And a Jeep, apparently!
I'd like to point out an Astrid win when she first saw Toothless. She told Hiccup to run not expecting to get out alive but giving Hiccup a chance to escape.
Oh...my... GOD!
Kristopher Shafer also even if she didn’t like him he was still the next in line so she was probably just protecting him for that.
@@ambersmith6075 all your points are ver6 reasonable and a good insight but immona have to stay with; she loved him even there and they were always meant to be!!
(Sorry, you know how we shippers are)
Her first instinct was to save Hiccup. Wow...
Stolen comment from down below
Another thing I like about the movie is that if you remember, when hiccup was in his first day of dragon training, gobber saved hiccup from meatlug and gobber said ‘ A dragon will always go for the kill’. Then hiccup questioned himself on why toothless didn’t kill him and says ‘ So why didn’t you’?. Now towards the end when the vikings tribe go to the dragon nest, Hiccup said ‘ Why didn’t I kill that dragon when I found it in the woods, Wouldn’t it be better for everyone’? So Astrid said ‘ Yep the rest of us would’ve done it, SO why didn’t you?
Man I love that 😀
man, there's a lot of call-backs/motifs in this film I did notice, and now reading comments like these I'm seeing there's even more that I didn't.
Actually when hiccup shot toothless down he said "I did this" before starting to walk away and after the battle when stoick found toothless he said the same thing. Love how it's more major characters to hiccup at least.
It still hurts my soul seeing this title knowing there won't be such a great movie about dragons again
Me too. But i still hope...
I think that we don’t need to make another. We’ve found the best dragon movie.
I’ll gladly watch this movie on repeat forever
maybe a httyd that follows the actual story from the books, that would be a great dragon movie
They made a show about it if you want some more. Not quite the same quality but still pretty good
Two of my favorite wins that didn't get mentioned:
- Hiccup is left handed
- The scene when Stoick gives Hiccup the hat, and excitedly says "With you doing so well in the ring, we finally have something to talk about!" It shows how he really does want to bond with his son. Overall I find Stoick much more developed than your usual obstructionist parent character.
I didnt notice hiccup was left handed! Thanks for the fact! ^^
lefties UNITE
YAS LEFTIES
The left handed part is a double win, because in the books, Hiccup sword fights with his left hand.
I'm mostly right-handed, but I eat with my knife and fork/spoon in a left-handed fashion, among other things. Knife on the left and fork/spoon on the right.
hiccup is also a crippled hero. we don't get a lot of primary main protagonists with disabilities. realize I said there isn't a lot, not that there isn't any. inb4 prof. X and daredevil
Daredevil hardly has a disability. You know cause he has extremely heightened senses.
he is blind to light and the same time is gifted to see with his ears, if you get me
+Pablo Jiang I know. He can't see, but he can see more than you.
i know what are you talking. im talking if he do have disability or not, by my definition, he is. disability doesnt mean he is uncapable to live all alone by himself,
look, im deaf, that mean that i cant hear at all, but i use hearing aids to help me in some ways. that doesnt stop me from driving car, going college or to get work. and heck, i bet he cant watch TV or read newspaper or see colors because his outstanding hearing and others senses but no direct sight
+Logan Sanders
You can't count not seeing light waves as a disability if your hearing of sound waves significantly more than makes up for it.
5:48 "thanks for nothing, you useless reptile". LOL Hiccup's sarcastic and sassy banter is memorable. Jay Baruchel's voice acting is really something!
8:30
"Well, most of em."
The look Stoic gives Garber is priceless, it's the Viking dad glare
My favorite scene in an animated film is the “Test Flight” scene where Hiccup has to let go and lean into his instinct. The score for that scene is probably one of the best pieces of music I have experienced. The reason I love it so much is because of the rush of emotion it makes you feel. Also life hack: the HTTYD soundtrack is the best studying music.
Preach.
It sents chills down my spine every daaamn time!!
The score for that scene and at the beginning which is titled This Is Berk are the best and if you listen to them enough without the movie playing you can hum along or even try and figure out what portions of the movie go to that part of the song! Also we cant forget the Forbidden Friendship part of the score and how its pace picks up then quickly drops off as the two end up bonding!
Alexa S ugh I know right! Also, I play it in the background while I’m writing, and it gets my imagination running WILD
Correct. And the soundtrack is also amazing for writing fantasy book (that I am currently working on) and drawing 🐲. 11/10
This movie and Kung Fu Panda 2 have the BEST soundtracks of ANY movie I've EVER seen and they almost make me cry every single time I listen to them. And I listen to them a lot.
I like the line “thanks for nothing, you useless reptile.” Because I love how it gives off that best friend vibe since best friends usually
Insult each other like that
either that or it’s just me
edit: thank you for all the likes you wonderful people💕💕
Actually you would be completely right!
The idea for the writers was to make hiccup and toothless' relationship more like that of very good friends than just that of a horse and rider type deal.
Oh its very much so not just you
It's my grandpa's favorite line in the movie, it's fun watching him burst out laughing at this part. 😊
Only best friends insult (one an offensive stranger lol
And only best friends embarrass their best friends in front of their crush and matchmake them at the same time
I like how he says nightwing literally 5 seconds after hiccup said NightFury
*Wings of Fire Intensifies*
@@potentpotassium5776
I like the way you think
@@potentpotassium5776 *_about a hundred Nightwings giggle n the corner, both canon charachters and ocs_*
To be fair, both are good names
As a member of the wings of fire fandom, (I’m on quotev), this made me very happy.
9:23 is probably my favorite shot in all of movie history. It's such a powerful shot to show how they've both lost a piece of themselves (On the same side) and that hiccup helps toothless fly and now it shows toothless helping hiccup to walk. It's so great that they made such a strong movie with such amazing amputee characters who aren't slowed down by what they don't have.
Alot of cat + a tad of a puppy + dash of a bird = Toothless.
It was actually
Cat + Dog + Horse + Fire Salamander, i think
I call it quite a bit cat + a tad dog (ability to be trained) + a dash of bat (hanging upside down) + slight horse (riding a sentient animal)
Somehow it is still dragon-like enough to be scary and fierce
The animators have to find some way get realistic animation movement so basing the movements on animals is genius
Aka derp fury
And a win counter for actually being a movie where the dragon doesn't die
@george new acount copper copper channel migration 2* the gronkle
@@spectacularsceptile3879 And 3, the Zippleback that got eaten by the Red death during "The Nest" scene
@@cocolover1237 and the thousands of implied deaths...
@@spectacularsceptile3879 Pffft.... details
and the Red Death
Who else realised one of hiccups last words in the franchise was the first few lines in the book series? Talking about the dragons going into the ocean and not leaving a bone to remember them by.
Yes! It's just such a beautiful line. "There were dragons when I was a boy..."
Please don't make me cry 😢😢😭
_reads this.._
_immediately sprints to the bookshelves to figure out where I put that book_
"There were dragons when I was a boy. There were great grim sky dragons that nested on the cliff tops like gigantic, scary birds. Little brown scuttly dragons that hunted down the mice and rats in well-organised packs. Preposterously huge sea dragons that were twenty times as big as the big blue whale and who killed for the fun of it.
You will have to take my word for it, for the dragons are
disappearing so fast they may soon become extinct.
Nobody knows what is happening. They are crawling back
into the sea from whence they came, leaving not a bone, not a fang, in the earth for the men of the future to remember them by.
So, in order that these amazing creatures should not be
forgotten, I will tell this true story from my childhood.
I was not the sort of boy who could train a dragon with a
mere lifting of an eyebrow. I was not a natural at the Heroism
business. I had to work at it. This is the story of becoming a Hero the Hard Way."
- Hiccup Horrendous Haddock III (How To Train Your Dragon by Cressida Cowell)
"There were dragons when I was a boy. Ah, there were great, grim sky dragons that nested on the clifftops like gigantic, scary birds. Little, brown, scuttly dragons that hunted down the mice and rats in well-organized packs. Preposterously huge sea dragons that were twenty times as big as the big blue whale. Some say they crawled back into the sea, leaving not a bone nor a fang for men to remember them by. Others say they were nothing but folktales to begin with. I’m okay with that.
Legend says that when the ground quakes, or lava spews from the earth, it’s the dragons, letting us know they’re still here, waiting for us to figure out how to get along. Yes, the world believes the dragons are gone, if they ever existed at all. But we Berkians, we know otherwise. And we’ll guard this secret until the time comes when dragons can return in peace."
- Hiccup Haddock (How To Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World)
Wait, so important question guys! Does this mean that Toothless left to the ocean too, and never saw Hiccup again? That's really depressing 😭! Someone please clarify?
Awww you didn't touch the part when Stoic mouthed "What the..."
I feel you, i got a little upset when he didn't mention all the noise cutting out when stoic lands on dragon island, implying something big is definitely going to happsn
Okay but can we agree that John Powell's soundtrack is the greatest animated movie soundtrack to date? Like, in the forest drawing scene with the sticks, the slow build-up and climax is simply bliss. You listen to Forbidden Friends (the music from that scene) on its own and just get transported to the forest, its insane.
I fangirl over this soundtrack waaaay to often. I listen to it when reading/studying and got some of my friends hooked too. John Powell is a genius and my hero ❤
u were absolutely right until spiderman into the spiderverse came out
I wouldn’t say the best ever but holy shit that soundtrack is really good I’d say top 5 at least
Not best animated movie soundtrack but definitely one of, if not the best cartoon/western animated movie soundtrack.
Relish Trousers yup
There were a lot of little things that made this film great. One thing people tend to overlook: this is one of the few instances where the human and the animal communicate both ways as equals. Hiccup doesn't train Toothless like a dog; Toothless gives Hiccup obvious cues expecting him to react. The movie pretty much telegraphs dragons use food to barter for their safety, but it gets ignored and later retconned to mind control, which is a shame.
Also, it's interesting to note Hiccup isn't a useless Viking, either: he's an apprentice blacksmith. It would be easy to have Hiccup be an outright reject nobody wants (meaning: a lot of other stories would have and have started like that), but no, we're told right from the start: his place is in there, not on the battlefield. He has his place in their village, he just doesn't like it.
Note, the Red Death is not an Alpha unless they went back and changed it post-mortem, which means it had no mind control abilities.
Evan Stocker yes it has. It might not be stronger than Bewilderbeast, but it can. Remember the homing-signal-like that somehow called Toothless (and other dragons) down to her nest? That's the one. Otherwise the other dragons will just fly away and find a new home somewhere safer.
@@azroazizah2360 @Evan Stocker @
RaichuWizDom
No it does not. It has a homing signal which is created using sonics and a stare but doesn't have mind control. Also Alpha doesn't equal mind control. That is the ability of the bewilder beast. So there was no retcon.
The Red Death used it's homing signal to trap and eat dragons. Like the Scauldron and Death Song (Which also uses sonics to lure in it's prey.) The dragons brought it food so that it wouldn't eat them.
The Bewilderbeast uses sonics, and it's eyes to control, not lure, control other dragons. It is Tidal class and not a meat eater.
It is considered the Alpha because it earned it. To be an Alpha you have to beat an alpha and until recently nothing had beaten a Bewilderbeast. They are also really rare hence fights between them are unlikely.
@@emmanueludoidung5745 It still considered a mind control. But lesser. Even Death Song's call is a mind control. You can see the dragon's pupil slit when they hear them, altho not as thin as when Bewilderbeast controls them. Yes Bewilderbeast has the greatest mind control and it's a little different, but it doesn't mean other dragons don't. The dragons in Red Death's den didn't necessarily lured there to be eaten. They're enslaved 'against their will'. The Red Death only eat them if they don't bring enough food. She was like a queen bee, she need workers but doesn't mind eating them.
And I agree with alpha doesn't equal mind control. Alpha is more like a respective hierarchy within animal kingdom. The other dragons obeyed the alpha because they sensed their position. We see that when Toothless shyly lowering his head in the presence of Valka's Bewilderbeast, or when all dragons bowed to him.
One of my favorite little details that I noticed was the way Astrid asked “why didn’t you?” Almost exactly the same way hiccup does.
"He has this way with the beasts" Honestly seeing Stoick's face now makes so much more sense. What if he thought of Hiccup's mother?
My big brother took me to see this when it was in theatres.
I'm a leg amputee, and seeing Hiccup and Toothless with their prosthetics made me feel better about myself.
Absolute love and respect for this film. A million thumbs up.
Cheyenne Rowe you like movie trivia? I got one that will stump you
Too soon
@@alanr6953 insensitive
Wow!
No offence, but to be honest, if I had the chance I would get a prosthetic that looks exactly like hiccup's >^
I was on crutches the first time I saw this. Really helped me feel better, though I got my foot back after six weeks.
I'd like to note that Hiccup is the only Viking in the film who (onscreen) kills a dragon. Also, another mark for consistency by having Hiccup and Toothless not immediately duel the Red Death because Toothless was still wet and wouldn't have been able to produce a plasma blast.
Huh.
That is true isn't it.
Thorought all three films the show and even the Games Hiccup is the only Human to kill a Dragon.
@@anthonyrodriguez8788 i mean we saw draco force the alpha too kill the alpha
@@kanekikenthewizardghoul4797 Wasn't that a Dragon/Dragon kill only?
TheBigHurt but if you think about it like that then toothless is the one who killed the red death because he shot the plasma blast lighting its insides on fire
Fast and Night furious But I doubt Toothless would have known HOW to kill the Red Death. Do you think he would have known about a dragon’s fatal weakness? Toothless is the smartest dragon there is, but Hiccup is the one who found out that dragons aren’t fireproof on the inside.
"Because I want to remember what you say, right now."
She saw it before even the audience did.
He was just doing what he thought was right, but she knew it for what it was.
Sure, he was likeable, but even we didn't see that he was special until that exact moment.
And then instantly we all realised that it was self-evident.
That's a friend/girlfriend/admirer win for insight, love, support and overall Astrid awesomeness.
*ding*
I knew Astrid was a badass b!tch from the start, and I first watched the movie when it came out, and I was four at that time😅
The scene that really gets me from this movie is when Hiccup wakes up and tries to walk with his peg leg. At first he tries to toughen up in front of Toothless, a throwback to when his father told him to walk like a Viking, but then accepts that he needs the help. Toothless is gladly there for his friend and then the shot of their backs and Toothless' tail coming into the shot showing his missing fin really shows how much their friendship has come. When Toothless was hurt, Hiccup was there to make him some fins and help him fly again. When Hiccup needed help walking, Toothless gladly gave him the help he needed. It's just such an amazing film really.
I may not be a pilot, but I have done scientific research on avian feather structure and flight, and I have to say, I'm finding it very hard to find any flaws with the dragon's flying animation.
Well, you're probably the person I should have been asking to begin with. Glad you haven't found any flaws!
Well, with two caveats. 1. The dragons would be much denser, not having hollow bones, or regressed gonads (fun fact, many species will regress their gonads to near-microscopic size when not in breeding season to save weight), so they would need MUCH larger wings relative to their bodies. But the wings *look* right for their size. 2. The Red Death. That thing would be way to big to get off the ground without flapping its wings somewhere in the realm of hundreds to thousands of times faster than it does.
Maybe you are just a little bit more awesome than the rest of us
Gary Marshall
Probably just more obsessed. :)
Hey, if those 2 things are the only major "mistakes" you can find with ALL the detail that went into the flying animation, that's a huge win for me :D
Another win, they've transliterated the night fury page in younger futhark, the runes the vikings actually used, most people would go with the elder futhark.
Indeed, although the producers have done some mistakes in the subsequent TV series where some letters where "borrowed" from elder futhark while other letters where misplaced.😁
Oh, interesting !
thats actually amazing and shows for how long no one saw a night fury
One really minor moment that really hit me was when Stoick is really excited about Hiccup's training and says "We finally have something to talk about!" and then they just sit there awkwardly. It's funny and yet perfectly encapsulates a father-son bond. I've had several moments like this with my Dad especially when I was in my early teens and was struggling to build a "buddyness" with him where we would chat about stuff.
I always thought hiccup lost his foot when falling into the red deaths fire when toothless goes to help him, by him trying to get hiccup to toothless so he can try and save him he grabbed what he could: his leg but in doing so bit it off while trying to save him.
This makes a lot of sence as as far as I know from that point on toothless Only grabs him on his left leg which is his non prosthetic leg (correct me if I'm wrong).
Also it says something on the lines of “you couldn’t led me get away with it could you bud, you had to take a chunk out of me too” referring to his leg, which to me, confirms it.
its a circle then, considering toothless lost part of his tail because of hiccup. I like it
I always figured it was just charred to the point of uselessness, like while most of him was protected from the heat of the inferno, his foot was the only thing hanging out of the protective Night Fury cocoon.
Ok then biggest win for me is the shot of Hiccup and Toothless walking together out of the house. The dynamic of having Hiccup and Toothless both missing a "left part" and having the other help them to do what was before a simple action is beautiful. This film is my absolute favourite animated film, from the score to the animation to the script.
Also, the cinematography and lighting was helped by other cinematographers and helped to develop and improve their lighting design for this film.
Last point, 10 internet points if you can hear the 1 line David Tennant, the man who narrates the audio books for these books, has in this film.
What's the david tennant line??
I swear if it’s the quiet “I have to do my axe returns” xD
David Tennant also plays Snoutlout’s father in the animated series!
Woah what?! I never noticed that! @@o0bookwyrmknight0o
WildFyreful Next time you listen to him in the series you’ll hear him! Weird how they never utilized him in the films. I guess just to have as a little surprise.
Pilot here confirming aerodynamics of Toothless. Can confirm that his wing is actually airfoil-shaped, and his apparent center of mass (assuming all of his volume is equal mass - EDIT: It won't be, because not all tissue has the same density) is actually in front of the center of pressure of the wing, therefore Toothless is - longitudinally - positively stable (that's a good thing in aircraft).
Also, I spent WAY too much time confirming this. However, I'm at it now, so the ONLY thing - and I mean ONLY thing - that I can see wrong with Toothless' aerodynamics is that there's no fin for directional stability. I mean, birds don't have this either, but this would mean Toothless is directionally unstable (directional movement being a rotation around the normal or vertical axis).
Which is actually CONFIRMED by when Hiccup falls off and Toothless...enters a flat spin. Which, needless to say, is something directionally unstable aircraft do. Holy sh*t Dreamworks, you really pulled out all the stops in this one!
EDIT: Can you tell I'm studying to be an aerospace engineer?
Wolfgang B I just assumed all pilots have knowledge of aerodynamics, so....
Anyway, thank you for the explanation! Seems very simple and easy to digest; why not consider teaching as well?
That's pretty cool
even better is that in the sequel toothless gets a set of spines on his back that would ( I think) act as said fin
won't hiccup direct the wind away from the fin's unless he is flat on his back
This is a very detailed and accurate description! Thanks wolfgang.
I'm still surprised he didn't mention the shot showing how they have both had a prosthetic on the same side with Hiccup's left foot or Toothlesses left glidewing at the end of his tail.
Bro... how did I miss that??? Lol 😂
Fun Fact: The animators had to attend “flight school” during production where they studied flight physics and movements of different creatures to create realistic characters.
The animators took a two-week intensive course to learn about aerodynamics and used the concepts when animating a creature to create the most realistic flight sequences. Throughout the course, they were tasked with small animation tests where they animated just a wing or tail as opposed to the full body.
They also received a certificate after completing the course.
Hiccup and Toothless' first flight together is one of my all-time favorite scenes in any movie ever. It managed to capture the real life danger of flying and the fear, the gut wrenching life or death instinctual twists and turns. The absolute trust each one of them had to have in the other to survive that. Plus, the score underneath it is so bloody triumphant that you can't help but wanting to leap up and shout at the end too. There's a sense of the exhilaration and joy amid the fear. It's just a beautiful sequence.
Oh my god, the score for this movie is incredible
You forgot the win on Gender Equality(mostly), showing that there’s more to being a guy than being big cool and tough and more to being a girl than being patient, polite and girly (whilst that doesn’t mean that they can’t be qualities as well!).
Well said
Astrid’s the toughest fighter, Hiccup can sew, men cry, and everyone is cool with it! Berkians are ahead of their time!!
@@dragonsrock6049 They're not ahead of anything, they're just themselves. Pretend that some peoples are ahead of their time means that everybody must be like them, but it's not true.
@Samuel. Trémerie Really? I didn’t know that. Well, you learn something new every day!
@@blank5432 STFU for a well thought-out and phrased comment? Evenly balanced, thoughtful, and rooted in reality? Sensible, in other words? Whereas your comment was abrubt, foolish, childish and betrays you as either being about 8, or a Russian Troll?
4:17 now i realized that expression on Stoic's face is not "suprised that Hiccup has improved" but more of a "he has the same thing about dragon like his wife"
Apparently, Hiccup was supposed to be alone in that room when he found out about losing his leg but someone suggested that they include Toothless in there as well just as a good parallel. That shot of them from behind with Hiccup limping, still getting used to his prosthetic and Toothless helping him walk while his prosthetic-less tail swings around is just beautiful.
Also, go watch Race to the Edge, if you haven't yet. It's a 6 season show taking place between this movie and the sequel. A lot of new developments in the second movie will make sense in this show.
Another win for 4:18: having the scene between Gobber and Stoick be without a score then kicking in straight after with Powell’s epic score emphasizes the difference between how the other Vikings train with dragons versus Hiccup’s training with Toothless - all the teens have “a way with the beasts” but Hiccup’s is just way more effective and different.
It also conveys a bit of a difference in the way Hiccup is perceived - stay with me here - among the other Vikings he’s seen as weak and incompetent but with Toothless, we have the epic score raising Hiccup to a whole different level: here he’s competent and the best at what he’s doing (even though he’s the only one who does what he does).
The powerful score mimics the power Hiccup feels when he’s riding with Toothless and helps the audience to feel that same adrenaline rush.
What ISN'T great about this movie?
You have CinemaSins for that!
That nitpicker doesn't know shit
+TripleTrees they're not real criticisms anyway. never has Jeremy ever said to take any sins seriously. literally the first sin ever made was "this movie exists", and it was not even because the movie was bad (though it was)
+TripleTrees
I absolutely adore this movie, but CinemaSins brought up several legitimate points in his video. He's not just a nitpicker who doesn't know shit, he also points out legitimate flaws in a movie.
+MarkSurge9411 It's pretty confusing actually, they claim that they are just 'assholes' and the channel criticism about movies are just for fun and laugh but their channel has grown so much that now they have a large fan base.
No matter what but people will count on their criticism and their points will matter.
6:45 It has already been winned, but really, how great is it to see Stoic immediately regret his words but being too proud and set in his ways to turn back? Most movies would have him be the parents who won't understand until he sees proof, but instead they humanize him with both instant regret as the moment of fury passes, and his determination to end it and then return to try fix things as he walks away. I think he also realises that, if he goes through with killing all the dragons as he's convinced he has to do, he will be betraying Hiccup, even though he feels betrayed by his son right now.
I love how when Hiccup and Toothless are properly flying for the first tie, around the island, Toothless doesn't look vary happy about Hiccup riding him. It adds more realism!
I love this movie and it’s sequel. They’re both so unique from a lot other movies you see.
Especially the end of the first one.
The fact that Hiccup actually loses a leg was such a surprise that it took me a good three minutes to realize that a MC in a kids movie ACTUALLY LOST A LEG!
Dr Ukato agree
Dr Ukato *its (no apostrophe), because otherwise you're saying "I love this movie and IT IS sequel", which makes no sense. Also *aN MC
IKR I was like "okay is he dreaming or getting it back or what" it's AMAZING (I mean, not that he lost his leg... you know what I mean)
And it on the same side as toothless missing fin
+Albond Thank you, captain obvious. Also (I'm talking to myself now) thank you for nothing, you useless reptile.
Oh, this sent chivers down my spine! How to train your dragon is by far my favourite animated movie!
My favorite too
If you look real closely at Toothless, you can see stripes and blotches. He actually has a color pattern!
Ahoyhoy! more so in the sequel.
Am Horse Really? Awesome!
1:51 I wanna add a little more to this.
Hiccup crippled Toothless for life and almost killed him. Toothless owed him nothing at this point, but didn't harm him at all in return (aside from his eardrums lol.) This scene is what sets up the entire concept of dragon's sentience and is the foundation the movie builds on to create the moral of "dragons are not what we think they are," and is by far one of the most integral scenes in the entire trilogy.
The blink and you’ll miss it reactions from Toothless in the forbidden friendship scene (I.e. the swallow when hiccup bites the fish to indicate him wanting hiccup to swallow the fish and the brief glance of hiccup while he was drawing followed by a poke in his drawing) were priceless. It gave Toothless even more character in my eyes and after noticing this, the “Oh, _now_ you can draw” line in the third film felt a lot more relevant to the comedic and romantic elements in that movie.
Did you guys know this has a 98% PERCENT on Rotten Tomatoes? CRAZY!
What does that mean?
Jesse Gerrits 4.9/5 On reviews
@deenman23 wait it is at 99% now??? Awesome!
@@curtiswhyte3297 as expected
I know! All three should have 100%!
its even cuter that in the tv show they made for how to train your dragon, hiccup actually ends up actually making a new tail for toothless so he can fly on his own and he keeps trying to take it off and hiccup thinks it was because it was uncomfortable but it turned out it in the end when toothless breaks it, does hiccup realize that toothless doesn't want to fly alone anymore and that gets me close to home
Aw, so sweet. :D
5:46 "Thank you for nothing, you useless reptile". The amount of disappointment and vitriol in that line is just masterfully presented.
something i love that i hardly ever see anyone talk about is the sound of Toothess' fly by attacks the high pitched whistling and then the explosion of his fireballs is just so satisfying and really gives a sense of his speed and power
I think you spelt the title wrong. It should be _Everything IS great about How To Train Your Dragon._
Edit: hi
Wyvderps With a side of SALT
How did you do italics?
(The slant)
Wyvderps With a side of SALT
Yeah but, few animation errors, just few
@@purple_pineapple8706 _you mean like this?_
@@purple_pineapple8706 Put underscores around the text you want to be italicized.
_ Like this but without the spaces in between the text and underscores. _
_Like this_
@@lindenlynx _ooh very cool_
I think another point should be given in the "Toothless accepts Hiccup" scene because you can see the slight hesitation Toothless has before leaning into his palm. It's barely there but just enough like real hesitation would be. I love seeing that because it makes the scene slightly more believable
That was originally just a glitch in the animation, but the directors liked it so much that they kept it. Serendipity, right?
amethyst_ cat that kind of glitch happened when toothless was first seen and when the camera pans over the bend of his wing his eye is suddenly open, it wasn't supposed to do that but they liked it so they kept it. Adds a bit of creep.
8:01
Actually, that only happens if it is a zippleback or a dragon that spits fire.
For example hook fang shoots fire while Toothless shoots plasma. Meatlug spews lava or molten rock and Stormfly shoots a magnesium blast. And also some dragons don't spit/spew/shoot plasma/lava/or magnesium anything from their mouth except for a scauldron as it shoots scalding hot water from its mouth. So really shooting the inside could work but only if it is a zippleback or if it spews fire.
I think it's based off a more centralized version of the Zippleback's method: fuel+ignition(x)exhalation=fire breath. Most everything else just has their ignition source internal to their mouths and throats, whereas the Zipp's have it split amongst both heads. Magnesium has a fairly low ignition point, so that's easier to explain for a Nadder, but the Gronkle's ignition must take place chemically, down in the gut; a gland that releases the ignition secretion when triggered? And a Nightmare's fire is more like napalm; again, easy to explain the ignition. Probably connected to their jagged teeth; it would explain how they light their secreted skin-napalm on fire, too. One spark from the teeth clashing together, and the sweat-napalm goes up, combine with exhalation and spit-blast of interior napalm to make the regular fire blast. Scauldrons must heat a bladder full of 'swallowed' water internally (gut or throat) to do their thing, but again, pointing to an ignition system.
And now I wonder if there wouldn't be ignition-crippled dragons out there somewhere. Animals bash each other up pretty badly in the wild; add in humans hunting them and setting traps, and it becomes likely. A Zippleback with only one head, a broken-fanged Nightmare that can't light up, ect.
Calling attention to the door bouncing back open instead of slamming shut actually made me realize something. A slamming door is usually a visual metaphor for the end of an opportunity to change someone's mind. Their mind is slamming shut just like the door. The door bounces open, and we immediately see Stoic stumble and gasp back tears, meaning his heart is not completely hardened against Hiccup. He can still be convinced. It's beautiful foreshadowing for the conclusion of his arc just ten minutes later.
and then some people dare say that the "books are amazing and this movie is pure garbage" ok people can find the books better than the movie but this movie garbage? this is one of the best movies I've seen
you're everywhere
The films were better in this instance, the books went down fairly quickly imo
+Siobhana Crasto Craig I noticed that lately.
And the best animation I‘ve ever seen. I never saw anyone make such a detailed dragon eye TWICE (and more, including other dragons) including all reflections. I sometimes even forget, that that‘s an animation ^^“
I never knew this was an animated adaptation of books?
"Gerad Butler as a father would be terrifying"
Christopher Judge (Kratos from God of War 4): "hold my beer"
DariaFireStar I still stand by statement that kratos was a great father
@@jacobbishop8067 just forget about the whole ashes of his dead family fused to his flesh thing and... yeah
Boy!
"Thank you for nothing, you useless reptile"
That's my favorite line
Also, my favourite thing about the flight with astrid? They intentionally made it difficult to tell which way was up, because they wanted you to feel the same rush of emotion that comes with flight.
I think another win could be near the end of the movie, where we see Toothless helping Hiccup walk on his new prosthetic, and then there's a shot of both of their missing body parts. (Toothless' tail wing next to Hiccups missing leg as they walk to the door.)
This movie was my entire childhood.
It inspired me to draw and it was the first 3D movie I ever watched, and I loved it so much that my dad bought a CD (I don't think that's the right word but you get what I'm trying to say) of it so he wouldn't have to rent it from Blockbuster every week.
DVD 😊
Also yup!
i like that there wasn't a "I trusted you, you were my best friend" moment, that is really frequent in movies. Those two survived thanks to each other so many times, that there's just no way they would doubt each others intensions.
The scene where Hiccup and Toothless become friends in the valley is one of the best scenes in cartoon history
My favoraite part is how people want certain dragons but the dragons are based on their root personality traits which gets audiences all creative making their own dragons while at the same time accepting their flaws. It is a byproduct of the film but still a win in my book!
3:40 You should've added a win because Toothless's hesitation was actually a glitch in the system.
The original one was a glitch but not in the final cut. No reason for a win
@@klawschafer7425 it was an original glitch that they thought was cool and left in
Don't forget the glitch when hiccup was going to kill toothless. Toothless had his eyes closed but then the camera moves past his wing and his eyes are suddenly open
@@bieber89430 that was on purpose
@@axial27 no it wasn't
When toothless lays his head down, you can see and count each scale. The textures on his skin are amazing. I love it. In that one scene, I was completely convinced that it was live action. Also, when they launch the flaming catapult into the dragon cave, Stoic ducks just slightly. Great continuity. Also, they had to have used live action shots for some of the backgrounds.
I highly encourage people to watch the 2 season of the show. Dragons: Riders of Berk and Dragons: Defenders of Berk. You learn and see the bond between not only hiccup and toothless but the other riders and their dragons. The literal first two episodes are to do with how Berk handles having all the dragons with them and adjusting. Along with finally bringing in Alvin the treacherous A’s season 1s villain and a chief of another allied tribe for the second season. You learn about the other dragons and how hiccup may be the best trainer, there are a few *he* can’t train. Dragons: race to the edge is also good, won’t spoil that one, but it’s the show that finally shows you how hiccup and Astrid get together.
And don't forget Netflix's Race to the Edge
Edit: oh sorry didn't see that part at the bottom, brain be dumb
I think the Red Death was a her. Because in HTTYD 2, Valka says that "every nest has its queen" but the Bewilderbeast is the King of dragons. Since that thing was running a nest and it wasn't a Bewilderbeast.
doubt it.
I think the books RD is a he.
I've been watching CinemaSins for a while now... how did I never know about this channel? I'm seeing a whole new wooooooorld!
A whole new fantastic point of a view?
+CinemaWins proof that people do get utterly exhausted with saracasm and cynicism. it makes us laugh for a time but eventually it gets aimed at something we love or hold dear and we get bitten. Focusing on the positive will never not make people happy. win for cinemawins.
CinemaSins is the enemy of CinemaWins
same tho
the war ITA the wore is on
No one:
Not one Viking or Dragon:
CinemaWins: "Such BEAUTIFUL BEARDS!!!"
(btw ur videos are awesome!!)
Can we take a moment to talk about the music for these films
Yes, you can take an eternity
Take as much time plus a lot more
"Hiccup's alive!"
Ahahaha I can't stop laughing
You know what's crazy? Craig Ferguson doesn't do the voice of Gobber in the cartoon, but whoever's doing it sounds exactly like him. A perfect imitation.
The people who replaced Wiig and Hill do a great job as well, but Gobber is flawless. Nolan North as Stoick, on the other hand, not so great of a match.
Ikr! Nolan North doesn't even have a Scottish accent! That's my main complaint, along with a few other minor things
well, he tries, but he's bad at it. Nolan isn't really very good at accents, although I give him a pass for his Penguin voice just because it's a fun character
Noland's voice is also not as deep as Gerard Butler's voice. He has a deep voice, but he's more a baratone while butler is more a bass.
I love how Mark Hamill voices Alvin, it reminds me of the Joker lol it's awesome
Andy Gilleand He's good at German accents.
Your wife got her jeep because of Toothless? That is one awesome wife!
It's sad to realize that toothless was ready to die when hiccup was about to kill him
everything great about this movie
the whole franchise 😏
Strixii THIS IS THE BEST MOVIE EVER
HTTYD 3!
"thank you for nothing, you useless reptile"
*Hahahahaha*
2:31 you forgot to mention that the unseen dragon types also set up anticipation for the tv series(es) and sequels that had not yet been announced without shoving it directly in your face that there would be more
8:11, Also, the way the Hiccup is flying, how far away he is but how close his feet are and the fact that Hiccup had lost his leg when Stoik finds him hints at the fact that Toothless dragged Hiccup by his leg with his teeth to safe him; therefore explaining why he looses his leg
But Toothless could have retracted his teeth, avoiding hurting Hiccup's leg. I think the more plausible theory is that his fluffy boot caught on fire, charring his foot so badly that they couldn't remove the boot without exposing a ton of bloody tissue, so they decided to amputate instead. There's a joke in one of the animated series that Gobber takes over Gothi's medicine-lady duties for a day and attempts to amputate a man's foot because he has a thorn in it, instead of just removing the thorn. It was supposed to be just a joke, but I've always thought of it as worldbuilding that Berkian Vikings just amputated appendages a lot, since they didn't have the medicine to fix things like that. But nothing's for certain.
I was a fan of the books befor this movie came out. I was kinda shocked by how different the movie and the books were. But I like each version so much. One of my fave movies.
AND the sequel wasn't just a cash grab, it was actually damn good.
From the books to movies, I love everything about this.
...also dragons make everything cool/cooler.
Oxy Worgon i read the books after. Boi was i suprised
Oxy Worgon *SAME* (nerd high five)
Oxy Worgon Yeah I loved the books and the changes really annoyed me at first but the films are good so oh well.
there are books?
LPFan yeah, they’re amazing. Although it’s a hell of a lot different than the movie, it’s incredible still.
Another thing I'd like to point out is that every dragon which got tamed in this movie had been away from dragon island (and therefore the alpha) for several days before it was tamed, which makes sense given what we learn about alphas in the second movie.
Actually the red death (the big dragon at the end) is not a alpha it’s a queen and controls the dragons by eating/killing any dragon that disobeys we see this when the dragon that brought one fish and not a bunch gets eaten and the other dragons hide behind rocks. In fear that there be next but they can’t leave because that’s there home and even if they did leave the Vikings would find them or the queen will find and kill them for leaving. Basically the queen/red death is not an alpha and controls with power and fear not mind control
@@rulerofthewild7747 What about Toothless going to the island? When they first went, Toothless took complete control, "snapping" at Hiccup when Hiccup tried to move him. It was as if he was magnetically attracted to the place. Or the second time when he was tied up by Stoic. He didn't want to help, but once he got within a certain radius, he perked up and led them straight to the island.
Even if the Red Death isn't a traditional alpha in the sense that it's not the same species as the dragons in HTTYD 2, it's still close. Heck, Toothless became alpha and he wasn't even the biggest "foot soldier" dragon out there! The alpha species in HTTYD 2 had a stronger pull (hence the slit pupil eyes and mindless circles) but the Red Death had a pull nonetheless (hence the swarming and instinctual pull to the island).
Venom Quill those are really good points. I agree with you.
The Red Death is also an "Alpha," that's not a class of Dragon, that's a title. Toothless, ish-qualifies under "Alpha" as well.
TheBigHurt thanks
Woah, really weird seeing the progress in visual quality between 1, 2 and 3.
@@curtiswhyte3297 It looks good in some areas, but some stuff is pretty damn rough (environmental geometry, human skin/subsurface scattering, GI). Comparing the gap between DreamWorks and Pixar at the time to now is night and day; now I would even say that #3 looks better than a lot of recent pixar stuff.
@@curtiswhyte3297 I really enjoyed the first movie, but I have to disagree there.
2007 - Ratatouille
2008 - Wall E
2009 - Up
2010 - Toy Story 3
All 4 of these movies blow the first HTTYD out of the water in terms of pure CGI fidelity (not talking about cinematography).
@@curtiswhyte3297 its really simple. Toy Story 3 and Ratattouille haven't aged a bit: it is really hard to spot a shot that doesn't look that good or seems unpolished. That happens numerous times in HTTYD, specially with the human models. In this regard the sequels improved vastly, to the point of almost 100% realism and "smoothness" of hair and clothes. The environments are fine in the og, and they are more difficult to animate than a kindergarten or a kitchen, I will concede, but the cookers look better than the vikings.
I love this movie so much. It was such a welcome surprise when i saw it in theatres. The second one is even better though. I love how well they deal with character flaws. Right from the start Hiccup uses his strength (intelligence) to overcome his flaw (physical weakness) and that just grows throughout. Then, Toothless' physical disability is what allows him and Hiccup to save both the vikings and the dragons from the queen. And then at the end, Hiccup loses his foot but gains an appendage to help him fly. The movie ends with both heroes losing something in order to become more when put together.
It really makes me hate the third movie though... like separating our two heroes like it's nothing really just ruined the whole premise and the theme of the trilogy: our flaws bring us together and together we can do anything.
This movie was one of my favorites of all time. I just connected with Hiccup a ton. My best friend from a few years ago watched it with me, and together we were Hiccup and Astrid for a while. Then she changed and watching HTTYD became sad for a while, but I'm starting to like it again.
I almost imagine Toothless as being a representation of the imagination and childishness. Hiccup is open to both and connect with Toothless while all the adults are so grounded in their own "maturity" that they can't even imagine that a dragon might be super cool. Just another instance in which the mind of a kid can do so much more than an experienced adult.
God, the part about toothless being a representation of the childlishness makes so much sense after the third one... Well done dude
What if CinemaSins made *Everything WRONG With CinemaWins* and CinemaWins made a *Everything GREAT About CinemaSins*?
HTS CinemaSins has actually done Everything Wrong With CinemaSins.
He meant doing a crossover.
Though eh, CinemaSins would not want that.
-Those videos would be really short.-
Matteus Silvestre
*Apply cold water to burned area*
Well Cinemasins is way more popular, they even mentioned sins in this video!
This is one of the movies that brings me to tears with the soundtrack, the animation, the actors, the script and knowing that how to train your dragon franchise has very sadly ended but all great things must come to an end
3:48 “uh, I’ve been stuck with you since birth, and that was never there before.” “Yes it was! You’ve just never seen me from the left side.” I know some people get annoyed by the twins, but they’re my absolute favorite characters
not sure if this is a video about Dragons, of the family tree of Mr CinemaWins
Same thing.
+CinemaWins hello I like to say something about the lion king scar reql name is taka and in LK2 simba's pride kovu means scar in a way he was name after taka the names are in swahili please do lion king love the movie
CinemaWins
well played
+CinemaWins best...dreamworks movie.................EVAH
+Rivaldo Villegas
Taka is not cannon.
Why do you not have more subs
Great question
Relatively new channel. Still, it's less than a year old and already 150,00 subs. It's a nice contrast to all the Debbie Downer series out there. (Cinemasins is still great, though.)
Because ridiculing a film will always attract more folks than saying what is great about one. Plus most see the name of a film they don't like and think NOTHING is good in that film, even if thay have not seen it.
People want negativity not positivity.
Because few fans spread his work to the world.
2:46 he said night wing, not night fury. HAVE YOU BEEN READING SOME GOOD BOOKS, SIR?
I love how he just faints after toothless screams in his face. lol