Speedrunners Broke Castlevania's Most Annoying Mechanic

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    • Castlevania: Dawn of S...
    00:00 intro
    00:54 run start
    02:13 get your money up
    03:03 zipping explained
    04:46 speedrun continues
    05:42 more broken stuff
    09:18 RPG route explained
    10:57 back to the abyss
    12:18 double zip
    13:18 more boss fights
    19:10 final boss
    21:34 end
    #worldrecord #speedrun #castlevania
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  • @vonmatrices
    @vonmatrices หลายเดือนก่อน +674

    Listen, you have a touch screen, you gotta gimmick. It's the law

    • @theblaze5530
      @theblaze5530 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Ecclesia had the best gimmick

    • @phorchybug3286
      @phorchybug3286 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      Thankfully Mario Kart DS has the right idea of just make up your own emblem.

    • @gabrielcastejon7914
      @gabrielcastejon7914 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@theblaze5530 The Albus teleporting, right? Its obscenely fun!

    • @gaspump
      @gaspump 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      You're not far off. With each system Nintendo has implemented certain mandates to get certified and for the DS it was that there must be touchscreen controls for some gameplay element. Other notables being using motion for the Wii, the pad for the WiiU and having 3d for the 3DS. They were all eventually relaxed but Dawn of Sorrow (drinking game: take a hit for every DS game that has a "DS" initialism) was close enough to release to be caught in that.

    • @EduCrossHands
      @EduCrossHands 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@phorchybug3286 but it also have the microphone gimmick in Ballon Battle

  • @ChristerOsorioHoyos
    @ChristerOsorioHoyos หลายเดือนก่อน +409

    Initially thought that the "RPG route" was role playing as a vampire because of the succubus souls. Actually, it was much more literal than that.

    • @ZenoDovahkiin
      @ZenoDovahkiin 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well Soma almost kind of is a vampire anyway so it's hardly even roleplaying.

  • @Saryuja26
    @Saryuja26 หลายเดือนก่อน +179

    I'm surprised you did not mention that this glitch can be used to obtain all three possible endings in one speedrun

    • @huhneat8908
      @huhneat8908 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      what

    • @GigalassII
      @GigalassII 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I like your funny words magic man

  • @CommunistRainbowdash
    @CommunistRainbowdash หลายเดือนก่อน +209

    the fact that the other route involves a goddamn RPG is really the banana on the bread

    • @someoneusedtobeknown2645
      @someoneusedtobeknown2645 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

      This is the first time I have ever heard this saying, and I feel like it should be a timeless one that everyone had used at least once in their lives.

  • @NoVa_Dragoon
    @NoVa_Dragoon หลายเดือนก่อน +251

    12:06 One point of clarification, the wiki just straight up lies about the drop odds here, the soul drop is not anywhere close to 12%. In reality the odds are around 2.35%, or roughly 1 in 43. Which, granted, when compared to Dawn's more dire drops getting as bad as 0.39% (1 in 256), still generous in that context at least.
    edit: 14:25 Quite generously, for being only in the final few rooms of the game, Black Panther in reality is actually 12.5%, being 1 in 8

    • @pedropimenta896
      @pedropimenta896 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Fix the wiki

    • @Jabler-
      @Jabler- 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      So did you fix the wiki?

  • @gegor41311
    @gegor41311 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    2:11 "this bald man" This is a disrespect to Hammer, and you're about to pay dearly for it.

  • @sunasuna16
    @sunasuna16 หลายเดือนก่อน +155

    final boss Stephen King with the Langoliers

    • @TheJCHarkins2
      @TheJCHarkins2 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      3 days late with the same thought...

    • @0neDoomedSpaceMarine
      @0neDoomedSpaceMarine 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      I always thought they looked like goddamn Langoliers.

  • @firedrake110
    @firedrake110 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    I think the single best part of the game is the Soma fight in Julius Mode, it's so sick. I especially like how Soma has a voiceline for whichever character you enter the room with, plus the incredible music...

  • @DoctorSwellman
    @DoctorSwellman หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    Nothing like drawing magic seals to zip into oblivion (also banana bread?)

  • @ShadwSonic
    @ShadwSonic หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    Those seals don't even work all the time on emulator, which is why the "No Touch Screen" hack is allowed for the RetroAchievements set for this game. Did I feel silly when I realized that after failing the same boss several times...

    • @gamerofthetime
      @gamerofthetime 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      What emulator are you using? I'm using Desmume and never had any issues.

    • @ShadwSonic
      @ShadwSonic 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@gamerofthetime Desmume core in Libretro. This was quite a while ago. Should mention that I'm using a touchpad on a laptop.

    • @0neDoomedSpaceMarine
      @0neDoomedSpaceMarine 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Patching out the seals improves the flow of the game so much.

    • @gamerofthetime
      @gamerofthetime 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@0neDoomedSpaceMarine Debatable.

    • @0neDoomedSpaceMarine
      @0neDoomedSpaceMarine 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@gamerofthetime I thought they were cumbersome, awkward, and needless at the time, they were clearly there because Nintendo mandated that the devs made use out of the touch screen gimmick, hence why this iteration of it was not seen in the other DS games.
      Trying it on emulator with the patch after having played it many times over the years, I thought it made it much more fun to fight the bosses. I didn't have to tear my grip and grab the stylus out of my mouth to draw perfectly on a tiny screen in an increasingly tiny amount of time, I just had to engage in the combat itself.

  • @mateusrabelo7890
    @mateusrabelo7890 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

    I remember discovering the succubus-cutal glitch as a kid by accident and then going crazy around the castle with it, trying to finish the game as quickly as possible and being absolutelly taken out of my mind when i discovered that you could go off-bounds on save rooms and go around in such a way that gave you itens like Alucard Sword and the souls from Julius Mode.
    I was way too obsessed with this game tbh and i couldn't be happier i got the chance to feel this way, my favorite Castlevania game ev4r
    Note: I never could really finish the game as quick as i wanted, i avoided saves and even with them, doing Menace low-level is hell

  • @CloudCuckooKing
    @CloudCuckooKing 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I not only never struggled with the seals but felt cool doing them.
    Perspective is a wild thing.
    ETA: I think I should clarify, having watched like 30 more seconds, that I only ever played casually

  • @arkhe1n107
    @arkhe1n107 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    I hereby state that we would indeed like a Julius run featuring Diagon.

  • @CottidaeSEA
    @CottidaeSEA 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I actually enjoyed those seals. It was a nice touch where you do the final move yourself.
    It did help that I was good at it and almost never failed though. Probably saved me from a lot of frustration.

  • @keyblader1985
    @keyblader1985 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I was never bothered by drawing seals in this game. I can't imagine how much people would hate a game like LostMagic - the combat was entirely based on drawing runes in real time.

    • @elivcdxv1852
      @elivcdxv1852 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Lost Magic is ABSOLUTELY goated. Love my boy Isaac Lightbrad

  • @Antifrost
    @Antifrost หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I've never played this particular Castlevania before, but I do feel like with what I've seen, there are a lot of games with notably more obtuse touch screen gimmicks that I imagine would drive speedrunners bananas. Bread-and-butter casual playthroughs might find it frustrating to have some of their progress undone if they mess it up, but assuming the mechanic works properly (like I said I've never played the game so I don't know how accurate the touch controls are), I don't think I would've found it as annoying as some do. Even so, it's definitely interesting how it allows for such wild skips, though funnily enough it's the tutorial that makes this possible - had Konami assumed the players didn't need to practice the seal motions, then runners would be a lot more limited in what they could do.

    • @josefinae1403
      @josefinae1403 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The gimmick is notably frustrating on PC emulators, its near impossible to do any kind of seal with the mouse and you can't even do it slowly since its a timed event. Thank god for patches.

    • @Antifrost
      @Antifrost หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@josefinae1403 Reminds me when I tried to play the first Megaman Starforce game on emulator. What should have been a very standard touchscreen minigame was near impossible, and it was required to progress. I had to slow down the emulator speed to get through those sections.

    • @ezelalia5739
      @ezelalia5739 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      ​@@Antifrost if you played Castlevania Aria of Sorrow, this is a worthy sequel, i still prefer Aria but Dawn is good

    • @Hilipinapixili
      @Hilipinapixili 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@josefinae1403 I actually never had any problem with the seals on the emulator, and I was dreading the hell out of them because I thought they were going to be miserable with the mouse. And yet I think I only failed a seal once.

    • @Hilipinapixili
      @Hilipinapixili 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ezelalia5739 I actually like Dawn slightly more than Aria by virtue of it being a bit more challenging IMO, but they're both top tiers in the series.

  • @Kydrou
    @Kydrou หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I really enjoy these Speedrun explanations.
    I wonder which one will be next?
    Maybe how to speedrun Banana Bread? Burn %?

  • @Sestren
    @Sestren หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Love the video! I'd say more but I think I hear the oven beeping which means my banana bread should be just about done.

  • @RenPenov
    @RenPenov 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is such a cool video, basically a condensed explanation of the whole speedrun route. I hope you do more of these for other CV games. Keep it up Dr4gonBlitz!

  • @dacosmicbrownie
    @dacosmicbrownie หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    These speedrun collabs are super informative and hella fun to watch!

  • @entheogenetic
    @entheogenetic 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Whoa, fascinating! Cool vid - thanks for the edit/share, DB! I like tours like this

  • @nintendohunter783
    @nintendohunter783 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Another great speedrun explained. Thanks DB and Diagon

  • @darkmage123345
    @darkmage123345 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    first you need a bananaa, then you need some bread....... spread banana on the bread then you have banana paste and maybe banana slices on bread

  • @jbisthedj
    @jbisthedj 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You are so good at explaining speedruns!! it's really impressive how comprehensive everything you say is

  • @halfhero
    @halfhero หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I get why speedrunners hate it, but in my casual playthroughs of dos I always thought the seals were a fun final flourish on boss fights
    edit : ok so i made this comment before i was somewhere i could actually hear the video, turns out speedrunners like them, regular players dont like them
    also banana bread

  • @AliceLoverdrive
    @AliceLoverdrive หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Ooh, this one was on my main page, I hope algorithm is picking your chanel back up!
    Say hi to mr. Daily for me

  • @delacreaux
    @delacreaux 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    8:10 I remember doing this with the cutall all the time when playing the game as a kid, felt so good discovering something like that was possible, like eating a delicious piece of chocolate chip banana bread.

  • @airmanon7213
    @airmanon7213 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Banana Bread.
    These glitches feel crazy to me as someone who hasn't attempted speedrunning, but they're quite fascinating!

  • @DeceptiveSS
    @DeceptiveSS 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    A yes, a type of non-yeast bakery product that is the saddest end for a certain yellow fruit.

  • @Veserius
    @Veserius 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Was only aware of the RPG route, so it is really cool to see this route.

  • @BowsettesFury
    @BowsettesFury หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Banana Bread

  • @Vandita3344
    @Vandita3344 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I enjoyed hearing and seeing the speedruns, please do more!

  • @cellularautomatFI
    @cellularautomatFI หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I love how there are so many exploits in this speedrun but all the RNG requirements makes speedrunning DoS seem like a gamble.

  • @ManaBirb_0.1
    @ManaBirb_0.1 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You always do such an excellent job breaking down these runs and the strategies.

  • @KatouToast
    @KatouToast 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I loved this game when I was a kid. It was the source of my first ever rule breaking in my life, which was to sneak my DS up to my room in the middle of the night when everyone else was asleep and playing with headphones on. We were only allowed 1 hour of video game playing a day, so this was MAJOR.
    Also, the soundtrack (and also obviously setting) was so sinister. It led to even MORE heart pounding excitement, cuz I would constantly whip my headphones off to listen in a panic, thinking someone was coming to catch me.
    The only was it could have been better is if I could have enjoyed some Banana Bread with it at the same time... ;)
    Excellent video, and thanks to Diagon for explaining! Very nice. When they preformed the first Zip with the Axe, I thought right away, "Wow, that's like the Sucubus-Cutall canceling glitch you can use to get around barriers and out of bounds..." only for that to also show up! That was pretty neat!

  • @RaspK
    @RaspK 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    5:15 Fuck... Apparently, whoever localized the game assumed "kataaru" (the Japanese term for the weapon) was the name "Cutall," whereas it is literally an adaptation of the proper word for this type of bladed weapon, the katar.

  • @Drangelon
    @Drangelon หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Glad I don't have to perform a magic seal when making Banana Bread, it would be terrible! Thanks for uploading this, it was amazing to watch!

  • @SonySteals
    @SonySteals 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This and a prequel are one of my all time favorites. I love these games so much. Great to learn something new about them

  • @smashbrolink
    @smashbrolink 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Those little balls of teeth during the final boss have GOT to be inspired by the monsters in the old movie The Langoliers.
    They're almost spot-on copies.

  • @Veketshian
    @Veketshian หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video!

  • @philnagle9024
    @philnagle9024 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Dancing former vice presidents

  • @the_missing_void9099
    @the_missing_void9099 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Never tried Banana Bread before, but I'd like to. Also, nice vid. Love how informative they are, and I always learn something new.

  • @SnakeHoundMachine
    @SnakeHoundMachine 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "THESE LITTLE JERKS!" Sir, they are called "Langoliers"

  • @minirop
    @minirop หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    pain à la banane

  • @trazodeltiempo1466
    @trazodeltiempo1466 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    great video!
    I've learned a few things here heh
    hmm it would be nice to have some banana bread huh

  • @BelleMorte1979
    @BelleMorte1979 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just adore this game so much. Seals not so much. Great job by you and Diagon! Banana Bread!!

  • @bluedelta18
    @bluedelta18 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    now i want banana bread

  • @Dark_Mario_Bros.
    @Dark_Mario_Bros. หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Those tricks were so insanely easy looking, that made me crave some banana bread.

  • @ZinfulSD
    @ZinfulSD หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Homecooked Banana Bread goes hard though, no RNG about that

  • @toshio1334
    @toshio1334 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I used to think the Malaconda Tail used to look like a stream of diarrhea and I'm glad it's being used as the main attack

  • @inbako9855
    @inbako9855 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love seeing this speedrunner stuff! Also banana bread is delicious!

  • @vayneinsane
    @vayneinsane หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey Dragon I wanted to ask, with a couple of Aria/Dawn of Sorrow vids out now, are you looking to grt into speedrunning those games?

  • @NoNameNoWhere
    @NoNameNoWhere 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    12:17 What game is that musical jingle from?
    I know I've heard it before, likely SNES.

  • @GigalassII
    @GigalassII 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The fucking banana bread burnt while i was enthralled by the video, thanks for that dad

  • @pehhii
    @pehhii หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Diagon just flexing with his seal skills, a true CHAD. Also BANANA BREAD.

  • @michaeltedeschi9929
    @michaeltedeschi9929 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That banana bread glitch is insane wow

  • @se7enist
    @se7enist 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Never thought I'd see Banana bread as a part of a major glitch.

  • @MadsonOnTheWeb
    @MadsonOnTheWeb หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    All starts with Dinner Dog

  • @XinZ1138
    @XinZ1138 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Al Gore rhythm banana bread.

  • @DarkAuraLord
    @DarkAuraLord หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What did they do *this* time?! 😂

  • @YEs69th420
    @YEs69th420 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I should have known DoS speedruns would be super broken, it's a Castlevania game.

  • @GlerpidyGlarson
    @GlerpidyGlarson 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The reason that the zips happen is The same reason why it happens in some mega Man X games and even Mario games where you can clip in between two walls and you're in a specific spot that the game will register you in for one frame and then the next frame you're going to be pushed aside to a certain degree and then set back into an X and y axis

  • @eduardofreitas3222
    @eduardofreitas3222 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    GREAT VIDEO

  • @r4tbu564
    @r4tbu564 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This deserves an algo push

  • @SwerveStarEx
    @SwerveStarEx 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I always really wanted to play this game, hahaha. I had no idea the seals were that problematic; I thought they looked as cool as banana bread.

  • @firedrake110
    @firedrake110 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't think I've ever dropped a seal, and I played through the game like 20-30 times as a bored teenager back when it came out - I also revisited it in 2020 when I suddenly had an abundance of spare time, and it was still great

  • @azraelroman1
    @azraelroman1 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Just here for the banana bread...

  • @brianorwhatever
    @brianorwhatever 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I remember doing horizontal zips with the succubus soul a long long time ago after reading about it on the game FAQs forum, this rules

  • @figdestroyer
    @figdestroyer 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That tail!!!😂😂😂

  • @Morgan-ve2ow
    @Morgan-ve2ow หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    holy shit it's Jupiter Climb

  • @ubx9563
    @ubx9563 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I gotta try these glitches on my next playthrough.

  • @artmccarthy3268
    @artmccarthy3268 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I want some banana bread.

  • @Saltience
    @Saltience 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    turning those magic seals into magic spells

  • @sdsdfdu4437
    @sdsdfdu4437 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm guessing not every page or screen has a valid "load zone" connected to it so it uses some default or placeholder value?

  • @samuelviden7412
    @samuelviden7412 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Best Metroidvania. All the DS games are great, but there’s just something about this game I can’t get enough of! ❤

  • @midegola5623
    @midegola5623 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i loved this game when i was younger. but i never knew that soul was so strong because of how dumb it looked.

  • @exocryptic1472
    @exocryptic1472 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Where can you find the full map at 2:06???

  • @otaking3582
    @otaking3582 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I did the sensible thing and played the ROM hack that removed the need for touchscreen controls.

  • @kawaiiempoleon8721
    @kawaiiempoleon8721 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    oh i learned to do this several years ago after seeing it in a gdq run

  • @flipperflapper6682
    @flipperflapper6682 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I watch what the speedrunner do and a thought come to my mind, the same thought that come when I look online about Elden Ring walkthroug
    "How do you find this?!"

  • @Cactrot
    @Cactrot หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sure do love a good loaf of Banana Bread

  • @Ginsekami
    @Ginsekami หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ring ring ring ring ring ring ring
    Banana Bread- no, wait

  • @DrunkenMonkeyFighter
    @DrunkenMonkeyFighter 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Shit, I haven't had banana bread in a while, now that you've got me thinking of it. Anyways, awesome vid dude

  • @playmoon1070
    @playmoon1070 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I remember this game! As a child i never reached tge first boss lol . I tried multiple times too

  • @artmccarthy3268
    @artmccarthy3268 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If anyone wants to chat with me, I'll be in the Load Zone.

  • @minerturtle45
    @minerturtle45 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    my mom makes some SUPER good banana bread with chocolate chips and mini Reese's in them. melt a pad of butter on a slice and it's just. divine.

  • @Lumix_Corrupt
    @Lumix_Corrupt หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I literally beat Dawn of sorrow for the first time yesterday, what

  • @andrewsanders17
    @andrewsanders17 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I dont speedrun but can it be that opening practice is checking your location and brcause your hit box is over a load zone thr preactice location check reads the room and saves that to memory. Then when you complete the practice it pulls that memory for your new location.

  • @chabaloo8855
    @chabaloo8855 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Humans and drawing, such a love-hate relation

  • @gubbothehuggo2771
    @gubbothehuggo2771 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    spoiled milk explosion in 3-
    BLEEGHUGHU!!
    oh fuck...

    • @elivcdxv1852
      @elivcdxv1852 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      thanks for reminding me of the LAbeast

  • @Kengdarot
    @Kengdarot หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    man i love me some banana with bread

  • @pcdeltalink036
    @pcdeltalink036 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dawn of Sorrow was my first and so far only Castlevania game. I still love it, gimmick and all. Though, I would like a remake or something on newer systems that doesn't use it.

  • @grayishere
    @grayishere หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Imma go for some banana bread now
    sounds tasty

  • @ryans5615
    @ryans5615 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can I still join the club if I don't use the passphrase? Something about a banana or whatever. I dunno, I wasn't paying attention. Gotta make that bread.

  • @DianaTaffie
    @DianaTaffie 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I always knew that banana bread would break the gamr.

  • @lemonadogirl4082
    @lemonadogirl4082 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As a Pokemon Ranger GS enthusiast, the only response I have to people in a snit over these seals is "skill issue."

  • @MadsonOnTheWeb
    @MadsonOnTheWeb หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I want some delicious banana bread

  • @Keremene440
    @Keremene440 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for delicious Banana Bread!

  • @nocturnox882
    @nocturnox882 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    banana bread sounds really good right now

  • @tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32
    @tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I just don't bother and typically use a magic seal removal mod.
    Bless me actually being able to play emulation via ds carts