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Diet Debunked: The Ketogenic Diet
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ม.ค. 2017
- The keto diet has a dark side that only few in the community have the courage to confront and it is all based on the scientific literature.
- Links and Sources -
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My Vegan Diet Is More Paleo Than Your Paleo Diet:
• My Vegan Diet is More ...
Perlmutter Interview (High Intensity Health):
• Keto Diet & Gut Bacter...
Paleo Mom's Warning Page:
www.thepaleomo...
Paleo Mom's Scientific Sources:
tinyurl.com/zql...
Starved Brain on Ketones and Glucose:
onlinelibrary.w...
Ketogenic Diet Contents:
www.ncbi.nlm.n...
6.7% of keto children got kidney stones:
journals.sagepu...
Child dies on Keto Diet from Heart Attack and Pancreatitis:
www.ncbi.nlm.n...
15% of keto children had enlarged hearts study:
www.neurology.o...
Sudden cardiac death is keto diet:
www.deepdyve.c...
GI disturbances, low blood protein keto diet:
www.sciencedire...
Study with large list of adverse effects, deficiency:
onlinelibrary.w...
More adverse effects:
www.researchga...
Keto blogger with ~300 LDL:
livingvertical....
IDEAL LDL, Loren Cordain www.onlinejacc....
Vegan cholesterol levels: www.scielo.br/p...
Vegan Diet Reverses Heart Disease Study:
dresselstyn.com...
Higher Cortisol on Keto Diet Study:
jamanetwork.com...
Keto equal to other low carb diet in weight loss, adverse effects:
ajcn.nutrition....
Weight Loss in Obese Adults Keto, 450 cal deficit:
www.ncbi.nlm.n...
Weight Loss in Obese Adults Vegan, 350 cal deficit:
tinyurl.com/hd3...
Keto Controlled Feeding Trial, Less Fat Loss, NIH:
www.ncbi.nlm.n...
Expained: • NuSI Hall Study: No Ke...
Water weight is regained when the diet ends:
www.colorado.ed...
Reduced the desire to exercise on keto:
www.andjrnl.org...
Perlmutter Ketosis Natural State Claim:
• Keto Diet & Gut Bacter...
"Eskimo on his usual dietary shows no ketosis..." www.jbc.org/con...
"It is known that the mutation decreases...ketogenesis" www.cell.com/aj...
Basic info on Yanomami Indians:
en.wikipedia.o...
Low Carb Diets Increase All Cause Mortality:
www.ncbi.nlm.n...
Seizures Lowered in Children on Keto Diet:
www.epilepsy.co...
Ketone Supplements Raise Blood Ketones Levels:
www.ncbi.nlm.n...
"In the general population, Blinten said a keto diet should only be considered in extreme cases....It can damage the heart” www.healthline....
Hey Buddy - I love your enthusiasm, and would be more than happy to come on your show to chat all things keto.
0:30 First off, the state of ketosis isn’t a “starvation state” it can be referred to as a metabolic state, opposite of a glucose-burning state, but is VERY far away from starvation. The body would have to burn through much of its fat stores, and protein stores before a starvation state would occur.
1:28 Sadly, the “well design studies” for ketosis were primarily focused on sick children. Therefore, it’s hard to correlate results with what would occur in a healthy adult.
1:35 I’ve coached many of my vegan clients into a ketogenic state, so I totally value a “vegans opinion”. I used to be one, so we’re cool.
2:55 Some of the symptoms you mention are symptoms of becoming fat adapted. Not going to lie, the transition is HARD, but once you get over the hump, it’s amazing! And, rats are not people.
3:11 Keto acidosis cannot happen in a non-diabetic individual
5:28 research has proven that eggs and oil are not bad for us. Please read “The Big Fat Surprise”
5:33 High cholesterol doesn’t mean issues with health. My cholesterol had to get to 500 in order for me to get my period back. High cholesterol is not BAD. Again, please read current papers. When I went on a plant-based diet I lost my period… for 8 years.
7:37 Wait, do I have keto eyes? Naw…
and on, and on…
8:03 I used a keto diet to:
1) get my period back (I did after 1.5 years)
2) lose 12% body fat (in 2 months)
3) lower anxiety
4) improve mood
5) eat more (I eat about 3,500 calories a day)
6) boost athletic performance
7) abolish brain fog
8) end my eating disorder (I’ve been ED free for 452 days)
9) increase muscle mass
10) regulate sex hormones
11) become fertile (I ovulate every 29 days now)
12) clear my acne
13) improve digestive function
…
All in all, you can say MANY of these same things against a vegan diet. I get what you’re trying to do here, but it’s unfortunate that you didn’t look at all angles. It was the same issue with Sara’s blog post against the ketogenic diet, it was all about epileptic children. We cannot compare what an epileptic child experiences on a 4 to 1 ketogenic diet to what a 30-something healthy male or female would experience.
I could go on and on but I won’t. All I’d like to end with is that - the vegan diet is good, the keto diet is good, all eating styles CAN be good for the individual. We have to be open to the fact that we’re all different, and sadly your video didn’t do a very good job with this.
Again, would love to have a conversation with you about it!
This cholesterol denialism is really bothering me. High cholesterol is bad, doctors measure cholesterol for a reason. The cholesterol denialist arguments cannot withstand any form of serious scrutiny. I would love to see your sources for this, but I know better than to expect anything significant.
Oh you bet, I'm happy to provide what I have available. The doctors that test merely for cholesterol are sadly misinformed, and it's dangerous. Here we go,
www.newstarget.com/2016-02-25-the-cholesterol-myth-debunked-statins-are-doing-more-harm-than-good-to-your-body.html
healthimpactnews.com/2015/japanese-research-exposes-statin-scam-people-with-high-cholesterol-live-longer/
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25925499
www.spacedoc.com/articles/the-cholesterol-delusion
www.spacedoc.com/articles/cholesterol_delusion_2
www.amazon.com/Great-Cholesterol-Myth-Disease-Statin-Free-ebook/dp/B009PKIPOE (great info and citations in this book)
www.amazon.com/Big-Fat-Surprise-Butter-Healthy-ebook/dp/B00A25FDUA/ (great info and citations in this book)
www.uncommonwisdomdaily.com/the-cholesterol-myth-exposed-18910
I have more, but let's start there. I just gathered medical papers in preparation for my book, but thought these sorts of articles would be better as they're easier to consume for the average person. Hope that helps!
HealthfulPursuit I'd rather get the the studies straight. I can't open a link without getting three pop up advertisements in my face. The one study you did link was on cholesterol later in life and statin medication.
Now, I can comment on the actual science rather than books sold to people who like meats and fatty foods and don't mind parting with twenty bucks to feel better about it.
First off, let's ignore the statin trials because we know they have some side effects. Let's look at cholesterol later in life. Some associations show a link between low cholesterol and death.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19887582
Yet if you follow people for a long time the opposite is true for most causes. Note the name of one of the authors Albanes, he had this to say in an interview "Dr. Albanes and colleagues found that, in a multivariate model, higher serum total cholesterol was associated with a lower overall cancer incidence. Patients in the highest quintile for serum total cholesterol concentration had lower overall risk for cancer than those in the lowest quintile (>276.7 vs
Crickets...
Broscience debunked in 9 points.
Keto means low carbs and low carbs means you have to give up garlic bread and you shouldn't have that kind of negativity in your life.
hell no! Garlic bread all the way lol
is garlic bread vegan?
@@maiadraconica6488 just don't put cheese and it is
@@acadianalien people put cheese on garlic bread?!
@@maiadraconica6488 Yes, actually I used to eat a lot of it before I was Vegan, they called ''Garlic Fingers'' here in East Canada
I doubt that I’ll ever be convinced that bacon is healthier than a banana.
Give a Diabetic a Banana and test Sugar compared to Bacon.
@clariboia anal I dont eat anything from pork but now, i avoid everything that raises insulin levels.
@clariboia anal I agree but what I think is tht Diabetes is our future, it is a response of our bodies being so abused by sugar and carbs that it can no longer tolerate it through generations and generations. I now sort of eat as a diabetic but im normal and athletic but my health has improved but some times going without carbs becomes a drag.
@@@omarkhan9515 You should to know that eating animals RAISES insulin levels, here are the video's ( you are safer with healthy whole food complex foods; vegetables, fruits, grains, beans, nuts. seeds).
People are misinformed that animal saturated fat/protein are part of a healthier diet:
th-cam.com/video/0GCS16cvpfE/w-d-xo.html (Dr. Cousens)
meat consumption increases diabetes
th-cam.com/video/Aw8hufhIDu0/w-d-xo.html (Dr. Greger)
what causes insulin resistance
@Spicy Chip My mom just got diabetes she rarely eats meat avoid eggs and their eggs yoke like a religion and its time to stop all carbs for her but she still dose not understand. I think is best to avoid our preaching till some shit happens. no carbs and no sugar or fruit.
How about this: stop eating refined sugar and drinking booze every day, and start exercising regularly. Wonderful things will start to happen.
D S I honestly needed to read this
And then throw LOADS of whole plant foods at that and FEEL the difference....
it wont work... Since even fruit can make you gain weight. Like Banana...
The whole eat nature thing isnt all that good.
@@sookiezboly4502 yeah, fruits have fructose, a sugar. you cantdo that on a vegan diet
@@sookiezboly4502 lol I eat fruits and carbs everyday with regular exercise with a balanced diet and have lost 32 pounds in the past few months. Keto is for impatient people who look for the simplest answer for how to shed weight fast.
I did cocaine for a month, and lost 40lbs! This proves cocaine dominant diet is healthy!
jannu jokunen yes but it's expensive
jannu jokunen ma man !!!
lol
but did you tho
This comment restored my faith in humanity. 😂 screw paleo and veganism. high cocaine, low fat, protein and carb for the win 💀
My sister literally collapsed in public after going on a Keto/Atkins Diet and yet she STILL says my Veganism is Extreme 🤨
Damn. That's rough.
I saw more vegans collapsing
@@chucku.farley981 Confirmation bias will do that.
I lost my gallbladder on atkins/keto. It was impacted into my liver and I arrived septic to the ER. 7 hour surgery - required an Emergency Assist Surgeon. Dr said it was the 2nd worst he’d seen in 15 years. He told me the keto diet paid his bills as 95% of his patients followed that way of eating. Upon my discharge he said, “Go enjoy a bowl of oatmeal and some fruit..” Took me 6 months to recover from that surgery. Starch based now. Feel phenomenal. Bloodwork is perfect. BP is 117/76 after being in the 180’s/110’s the entire time I ate keto/atkins/low carb. I do miss feta cheese on my salad and cream cheese on my bagel but -- never again.
Probably pregnant..
People call veganism a cult, but give any criticism of keto and a swarm of angry dieters will attack you. I can't speak with regards to the medical information, but I do know that if everyone ate a diet of constant meat and cheese we wouldn't have a life-sustaining planet.
On keto and not constantly eating meat and cheese.
Because vegans are always lying and twisting information in order to support their religious idealogy. One of the things that personally pissed me off was their lies about taking fish oil.
Veganism is a religion.
Oh trust me people on keto are waaaay worse
obviously you never heard of vegan keto. You're not very informed.
I tried doing a vegan keto diet recently (i'm already vegetarian / mostly vegan) and let me say I got so sick! I'm currently having to go get medical tests and bloodwork because my body has been in shock since this all started. I also have hypothyroidism (caused by cancer treatments) and the diet may have harmed my thyroid. I have severe hypothyroidism symptoms now despite being medicated. Keto might work for some people but it certainly can be harmful to others. I guess the take-home point here is to consult your doctor before doing any new diet - especially very restrictive ones. I followed the rules and tracked all my food with keto - did a ton of research before starting but I never consulted my doctor and now my body and my health are paying for it dearly.I felt great for about 3 days and then I started feeling progressively worse - not just keto flu but detrimentally sick. I missed 2 days of work and had horrible insomnia too. Started feeling hypoglycaemic - the list goes on. I won't be going on keto again - I almost ended up in hospital.
What foods did you eat? and what did your macros look like? I am a little more then a week in and I feel fine...
@Sahanda yumurta did you not watch the video
This happened to me! I am an advocate against keto now because of how much it messed up my thyroid (I have hypothyroidism too)! People need to be warned!
This was close to my experience. I felt highly acidic I ended up getting gallstones and and I was keto-vegan as well. I had it down pat I was supplementing and then one sip of Vinegar tipped me over in pain. I also developed an slightly enlarged heart.
That's because you can't do keto vegan...you need saturated animal fats, EPA, DHA, C20 AND C22 fatty acids ...omega poly 6 oils WILL make you sick ...
At :35 seconds you said Ketosis is a "starvation state". It's not. It just means the body is burning fat. Starvation is when the body is breaking down protein and muscle mass is lost. Ketosis is the native State of the body. Most of medicine gets it wrong, too. Please correct this so your viewers aren't misled.
Muscle mass is lost on a ketogenic diet.
Siegfried Furtwängler Knappertsbusch not true. Muscle mass is lost during starvation. During ketosis, muscles are peaked out with glycogen and strong.
Based on what?
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27385608
I thought this issue was settled.
Click on full text. You're welcome.
Muscle mass is spared in ketosis. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27754807
I have been on a Keto diet for 3 months lost 50 pounds of fat. Im a 40 year old male who used to weight 250lbs now I’m 200lbs. I don’t count calories. I eat until I’m full but keep the amount of protein I eat low. I eat plenty of spinach, asparagus, broccoli, kale, mushrooms etc..My LDL dropped from 189 to 130 (still working on it). I have just incorporated intermittent fasting and hope to see more results.
That's great news, it's working for so many people. No stuffing yourself, feeling great, my mind has never been so clear and reversed pre diabetes without even trying. Hopefully more people will realise how nutritious animal products are.
@@blinkybill2198 you have not reversed pre diabetes, but simply have taken a vacation from it. animal products are not nutritious at all.
if it doesnt hurt you, keep going
@@shadsalah3346 hahahahaha
@@blinkybill2198 mann as far as i know shawn baker( a doctor ) got pre diabetic on keto diet after 1 year
So... I guess im the first person to actually review the sources you added on this video, and here's my summary:
Starved bran on ketones article:
"Ketone body consumption by the brain has an essential role in preserv-ing life" - the article is rather positive regarding keto.
Kidney stones article:
"Kidney stones continue to occur in approximately 1 in 20 children on the ketogenic diet, and no statistically significant risk factors were identified in this cohort"
Child dies on keto article:
"A 9-year-old girl had a seizure disorder with associated developmental delay owing to glucose transport protein deficiency." - Well... a really sick kid can die from any diet, not the diets fault really.
15% of keto children had enlarged.. article:
"Twenty patients on the ketogenic diet at one institution were investigated. Prolonged QT interval (QTc) was found in 3 patients (15%)" - It's easy to make 15% sound like a big number before you reveal it was 3 persons.
Sudden cardiac death is keto diet article:
Not available anymore... could not find the article.
GI disturbances, low blood protein keto diet article:
"The KD is a safe and efficacious therapy for intractable childhood epilepsy in Chinese children" - The article is positive regarding the diet
Study with large list of adverse effects, deficiency article:
This is a study on treating epilepsy, children with complications and illness. Any diet on sick patients will have adverse effects.
More adverse effects article:
Still only regarding experiments to treat epilepsy.. you cannot just read keto articles on sick kids... really?
Higher Cortisol on Keto Diet Study article:
"During the run-in phase, we obtained baseline data for study outcomes, restricted energy intake of participants to achieve a 12.5% decrease in body weigh" - Now if you restrict the calorie intake, you're not doing keto.
Keto equal to other low carb diet in weight loss, adverse effects article:
Just saying that keto isnt more weight loss than medium low-carb. This compares weight loss in low carb vs low carb. Really?
Low Carb Diets Increase All Cause Mortality article:
"Our meta-analysis supported long-term harm and no cardio-vascular protection with low-carbohydrate diets. However, theobservational studies were limited and moderately heterogeneous.Our findings underscore the imminent need for large-scale trialson the complex interactions between low-carbohydrate diets andlong-term outcomes." - Well they are basically saying their findings are not enough to be trusted.
One of the first things i noticed was "Relatively few serious complications have been reported in the more than 70 years in which the diet has been used."
It's being use and studied for 70 years and all he has are handful of examples of it being bad for your health?
I was already wondering why those papers flashed by in a split second. Good job and much appreciated. I cut seriously on carbs and sugar in relation to a diabetic type II diagnosis. All complaints have disappeared except the neuropathy in my feet takes a bit longer I guess. I don't think I am in ketosis but feel much better already. Only eat once a day and coffee with a clump of butter in the morning. Thank you again.
LOL, 3 people out of 15 is huge. Don't try to minimise it. I'm not playing russian roulette with my health!
What is huge? Out of 15 really sick people, 12 survived. Take any death sentenced person, put him on a vegan diet and watch your percentage of vegan deaths rise.
@@zebmastah2063 Vegans who eat sensibly don't get any (serious) illnesss as a result of dietary reasons.
Idk man. I've been in DEEP ketosis for 4 (since I was 17) years and I feel great. My bloods are amazing (I get bloods taken every 6 weeks at least for other medical issues) My IBS is much better, my memory is better, my anxiety is better, no acne, 4 stone weight loss and now a very balanced weight.... Like, it might not work for everyone?? But it defo works for me and the millions of others still doing it!!
@Jamie Veganarchist I NOW GET IT!!! MY MOTHER IS VEGAN AND IM BULLSHIT RESISTANT
I went keto for two weeks......oh boi what a mistake.I gained 50 pounds,had to amputate my both legs,had 13 heart surgeries,but when i went vegan in no time i got eight pack and my both legs have regrown completly.Thank you Mike you saved my life ❤️
bruno lambaša lololol you won the internet bruh 😂😂😂
That one day without a heart surgery must have been GREAT!! Amputees ... You hear this?? GO VEGAN!!
bruno lambaša bullshit
Wildman...it's called a "sense of humor." Try to locate one. It makes life easier at times.
Rebecca Carraway 😂😂😂
There's a right and a wrong way to do every diet and no 1 diet works for everyone. Cherry picked info to support your cause and nothing from Jeff Volek. The same can be done with the vegan diet but vegans are known to be closed minded and self righteous for their diet so people who blindly follow a youtuber without doing their own unbiased research is bound to remain ignorant.
You sound soooooooo open minded.
Sisa Limpson: Thank you ;)
I agree with your first point. I have to add, though, that there is no such thing as a 'vegan diet'. Veganism is simply the refusal to purchase or consume anything that comes from animals. A 'vegan diet' isn't really a thing. You get keto vegans, paleo vegans, high carb low fat vegans, whole food vegans, junk food vegans...
Some people do choose a plantbased diet for health and believe animal foods to be unhealthy. That's not what vegan means, though. I think Mic wasn't correct in comparing 'keto' to 'vegan' because to do so doesn't really make sense: You can be vegan and go into ketosis, and 'vegan' isn't a diet (although it is, in part, about what you eat).
I hope that makes sense!
Agreed... I did a bit more research into the program I facilitate with a doctor (I focus on behavioural modification and he focusses on the nutritional science). The approach Mic is speaking of is INCREDIBLY extreme and not what a typical or average user of a ketogenic model would support. In fact, when done properly you can achieve ketosis while still eating 140 grams of green leafy veggies per day (measure that out, most people can't even eat that many in a day) as well as 6 servings (cups) of other veggies. It is also possible to be keto and vegan (in fact, I am and it's totally sustainable!). I love Mic's videos and will keep watching as I am only newly vegan but finding lots of options (i have not missed or craved meat even once.
I agree with you as well. I would also say that when done properly, Keto isn't a diet either. It's a term that is used to describe a state that the body goes into but it is also (in modern times) represented as a lifestyle, a choice in food, an attitude, and correct food behaviours. It's a fully sustainable model when applied correctly!
When I tried doing keto for 4 months I developed Raynaud's Disease. I did keto properly, with everything being organic and grass fed.
I am vegan now and have never had a recurrence of symptoms. I will remain vegan.
I actually tried keto and days after i started developing pain and numbness on the tip of my fingers. I quit the keto diet after 3 weeks, going back to veganism i hope this goes away.
I'm really confused about your comment. From what I know, Raynaud's Disease is caused by cold temperatures, not a high-fat, low-carb diet. Can you explain in more detail how you established a causality between Raynaud's and keto?
@@palimpsestransparent
They are vegans lying is not an issue to these people since its "for the greater good" once you think you are on the side of "the greater good" nothing is immoral.
I couldn't go keto as I need rice beans and potatoes
This is a joke. The internet is filled with people pushing their own nutrition dogma, which is one of the biggest problems in following any nutrition advice. Often times the "guru" pushes what works best for them and people automatically assume they can achieve the same results when in fact everyone responds differently. The point is, some people will excel on a ketogenic diet while others will not. The serious folks who look at science and have extensive clinical experience will say that right away.
I'll just make two points from the first two minutes of your video which highlight your misunderstanding (and many others) about a ketogenic type diet.
1:10 - "meat, oil, dairy, eggs, and a few plants on the side". I've been following a ketogenic diet for over a year now and 2/3rd of my plate by volume is vegetables, 75% of which is leafy greens and fermented cabbage, typically at least 1 avocado a day as well. The point is, many people can make the mistake of not eating enough plant materials. That's the same for any diet.
1:13 - "just one banana would put you over your carb limit". Again, it's highly individualized. I can tolerate 50 - 70 grams daily of carbohydrates and still remain in a state of ketosis. Some people will need to be as low as 20 grams. I eat berries, citrus, and other seasonal fruits. I have no problem eating a banana, but would rather have the former.
I could go on and on, but I'm not going to waste any more time here. It's great that you know what works best for you, but there is a ton of valid information and science out there about the benefits of a ketogenic diet as it relates to health, athletic performance, and weight loss. But it's not for everyone. One of the best resources is "The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Living" and "The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Performance".
Don't be a fool and think that you've got it figured out. I get blood work done regularly and have seen tremendous benefits from a ketogenic diet, but like anything, you need to be informed about it and learn from your mistakes. One of the biggest mistakes for people starting out on a ketogenic diet (the phase that we call keto adaptation) is monitoring sodium levels and making sure to eat plenty of plants. Some of the benefits I've gotten from a ketogenic diet: increased athletic performance, fat loss (I'm below 10% body fat), increased mental focus/memory, lack of hunger cravings, and the list goes on.
I have tested keto for two years and feel amazing
This is a regular misunderstanding, on Keto you are supposed to eat a lot of vegetables
Actually just recently seen a mention/claim of someone developing lifelong pancreatitis in a comment section because of trying a ketogenic diet. Huge respect to you for raising awareness and assuming a stance that is not popular at the moment. New subscriber.
You’re an idiot
I grew up with binge eating disorder and was 230lbs by 6th grade, decided on my own to do a keto diet at 13 bc I saw my dad doing it. Lost a bunch of weight but could NOT for the life of me think straight. Went crazy, developed anorexia, and later that year accidentally saw slaughter house footage. Immediately went vegan and over time it recovered me bc I wanted to be a good example for veganism. My dad ended up in the hospital for his heart and I got him on veganism too. I’m now almost 20 and we have never been healthier or happier.
I'll have you know that both my legs fell off as a Vegan due to nutrient deficiencies. Going raw primal keto has made my legs grow back.
😂
Lmao!
Did your sex organs fall off? Who cares about your legs?!?! ROTFLMAO
I have been vegan and have no issues. I sleep 5 hrs a day and 2hrs in gym. I supplement with b12. God teaches compassion and I see no compassion in eating food from killing. It's body it will eventually perish. Can survive vegan or carnivore but the word is optimum. So stop this bullshit about eating animals.
Ha ha ha!
This is so dumb. They are talking about ketoacidosis, not ketosis.
This comment should be higher up. This TH-camr has an obvious agenda... It's possible he deliberately, maliciously tried to make people think ketosis is actually diabetic ketoacidosis, which are two COMPLETELY different things.
Of course it's malicious. People who go against their nature are unable to be honest.
Funny thing, I read the exact same “side effects “ from vegan research journals. WTF?!
No its not dumb..He is quoting facts from studies given by a researcher..lt shortens the lifespan.
Lucas Amorim Did you not watch the video?. He quoted studies.
Lol thanks for the shout out! I was the guy with the high cholesterol, still well below normal now and still eating as much plants as possible :D
Eoin O'Chionnáigh been on the ketogenic diet myself I have heard some results of people who in with high cholesterol. Generally they say it gets higher before I get to lower depending on the length of time you've been on it. But my question for you is that did you eat a lot of vegetables while you were on the keto diet or not? Some people on the keto diet recommend at least 7 to 10 cups of vegetables a day. Specifically Dr. Berg. Just curious I'm on the ketogenic diet and it worked wonders for me. But I'm still experimenting.
Hey thanks for the comment! I think in retrospect, I should have eaten more vegetables, but I was scared to go over 20g net carbs a day, sometimes I'd go as high as 50g though. I ate a lot of nuts, and I mean a lot! So I thought with that fiber along with a tomato, some leafy green salad and a serving of cruciferous vegetables I would be okay, but it just didn't work out that way, I ended up getting very VERY high uric acid and pains in my knees. There was actually one week were I only ate meat, which was surprisingly easy. I would advise anyone on the keto diet to avoid burning their cheese (which is supposed to be really bad for you, i.e grilling), stick to boiling their meat, and try to get 30-50g fiber a day anyway you can. I think if I did that my cholesterol and uric acid would not have been so terrible. Good luck and stay open minded on your path to health!
Well, if you measured levels of cholesterol during weight loss you wouldn't have gotten an accurate reading
Nah there was no weight loss, it was only 5 weeks so I mean, how much can weight loss skew results as dramatic as 440-->160
Who told you, that low cholesterol is good? Cholesterol is a firefighter which is fighting inflammation. There is just one type of LDL which is really bad, and it's high on high-carb diet. So we can say all your low cholesterol is bad.
I'm over here thinking about all the people who say "VeGAn iS sOOOOoo rEStrICtiVE." I think not. I think keto is.
I tried keto for about a month. Not only did I gain weight from it, but all the meat and fats gave me horrid heartburn and indigestion, plus terrible brain fog. And I felt like I was starving all the time even after downing an entire plate of meat. Ultimately, the keto diet backfired big-time because it made me hate the meat I'd previously loved all my life. Now I've been vegan for almost 3 weeks and I barely ever get hunger pains anymore at all. Plus I've already lost a few pounds around the middle because I've swapped plates of carcass for bowls of salad.
Dat probably wasn’t keto
im on a ketogenic inducing diet and i eat 1 pound of 50/50 spinach and spring mix a day. Thats barely 20 grams carbs
43 seconds in and you are already wrong about how ketosis works :(
A few of the studies you researched are with diets containing processed meats. I will not argue with you, they do cause harm. THAT BEING SAID meaningful correlations can be found by lowering inflammation through a proper keto diet. This will lower blood glucose and reduce LDL oxidisation.
Processed meats are bad - agreed
Other studies you cited: The dangers of saturated fat are real WHEN PRESENT IN THE BLOOD STREAM what causes this you ask? Insulin. Produced by the pancreas to regulate blood sugar.
Saturated fat in the diet while in ketosis with *no insulin* present in the bloodstream does not cause heart problems and is shown since the 20's to lower risk.
Saturated fats are bad - agreed (when eating carbs as well)
This is documented well. It is crucial to differentiate the studies based on those who are observed eating high fat and *low carbs* with those eating healthy fats and *no carbs * (aka no insulin production) there are huge differences and both were labelled as "keto" in this video. Please do not clump together results to make it fit your youtube channel.
Don't simplify such a complicated subjects. When executed properly this diet can be used to save lives of insulin sensitive people.
PS: some of the "side effects" you listed are observed only in the first week while people breaking the addiction to carbohydrates.
Energy levels restore. Brain performance is proven more efficient when glucose is not present in the blood.
For a first 3 month i eat whatever, without counting calories, and still lost like 10 kilo, now i am forcing myself to eat more than 2000, and started exercise just to gain some. Have same level of strength after starting keto, need less time to "catch a breath" and dark circles under eyes, in my case its quite and opposite, i used to have them on "no diet" and now they gone.
Keto is AMAZING! I reversed my prediabetes got rid of my severe hypertension got rid of my PCOS lost 134 pounds in about a year and lowered my bad cholesterol he wants to tell me Keto is this and that? Oh and I've been at it for 7 years! Lol 😂😂😂 Smh One more thing, Keto CURED my left ventricular hypertrophy, yes my left HEART ventricle was reversed with KETO! This is just fear mongering and vegan propaganda.
Keto is AMAZING! I reversed my prediabetes got rid of my severe hypertension got rid of my PCOS lost 134 pounds in about a year and lowered my bad cholesterol he wants to tell me Keto is this and that? Oh and I've been at it for 7 years! Lol 😂😂😂 Smh One more thing, Keto CURED my left ventricular hypertrophy, yes my left HEART ventricle was reversed with KETO! This is just fear mongering and vegan propaganda.
there is no such thing as "no glucose in the blood", unless you overdosed on insulin
I eat lots of spinach, kale, celery, broccoli, cabbage, bok choy, asparagus, onions, peppers, mushrooms, nuts, seeds, olives, avacados, leeks, cucumbers, ect. Can you guess which diet I'm on? I'll give you a hint: I'm not vegan.
strictly og kush diet
As do i
Kacie Peacock Keto! Keep it keto!
Love my KetoDiet and the way it makes me feel. The weight loss and veggies are great but the feeling full so much longer is such a plus.
Kacie Peacock keto 😍. You can be vegan and vegetarian keto too people and this dude..he doesn't get it..you don't have to be a meat keto..it's simply cutting out bad sugar and carbs...carbs do not work for me. We're all built differently.
Pick a diet. Any diet. One thing they all have in common: no junk food (e.g., chips, candy, cookies, etc). Cut that crap out and guess what? You'll lose weight, have more energy, and feel better. It's removing the junk from one's diet that causes the weight lose. It's not b/c of eating tons of fat in a Keto diet.
kamaboko1,
Let me add something to support your point. It’s that junk food that you cite with its dense and high calories that add and maintain weight.
Fad diets simply lower calories, but aren’t necessary healthy.
Exactly. Them keto-fans fail to realize the simlplest things. Unfortunately that will bite their ass back in the future.
Same thing PPL Say about vegan diet
@SophieYT Vlogs Sure about what? That keto is very unhealthy? Of course I am and so are every worthy dietitian out there.
@@goku445 When you're young you could eat anything and be healthy as long as you're active.. it's not until you're older with experience do you find out your diet is bad for you. These vegans aren't any better of course.
keto saved my life. when I was 17 I had a bmi of 45, was prediabetic, and was told that I would be the youngest person my doctor would have to put on heart medication. after several months of keto and kicking my ass at the gym I was 100 lbs lighter and the next year I rode a bicycle 4600 miles across the USA to raise money for young adults affected by cancer. I'm not on keto right now because long term doesn't make me feel good and may be unhealthy but there is no doubt that I would be much closer to dying if I hadn't tried it. I still go on keto for about a month or two every year. Try it for weight loss but listen to your body
You suggest against long term keto ?
Prashanth B Consuming next to no carbs long term is bad
Hi John. If you went totally WHOLE FOOD plant based you wouldn’t have to worry about regular keto episodes in your life, and would probably start healing the underlying factors. Have a look at Chef AJ for fantastic meal prep ideas, an amazing body transformation journey, and great ideas. And then listen to Rich Roll for a lot interesting (especially to guys) stuff about life, sports, science and being a top vegan athlete. Good luck and may you keep going to finding your optimal health.
We've all been waiting for this one! 👌
Yes all the studies his mentioning were done with corn oil, the Keto genic Diet is very heart healthy and energizing diet that you can use for the rest of your life and be healthy, But you gotta do it the right way, that is with supplemental vitamins and high quality fats like extra virgin olive oil and grass fed butter and one of my favorites coconut butter. You need to do your research fully before getting into ketosis I am on Ketosis and have no problems and never been better, if you guys look up Dr.Berg channel or even Jason Wittrock they have amazing information into doing the Ketogenic diet the correct way. Of Course this is not like any other diet that you can make shit up and hope for the best, you gotta know what your doing to get the results, let me tell you this is the way to go. DO YOUR RESEARCH..DO YOUR RESEARCH.... DO YOUR RESEARCH..... don't let anyone discourage you from being the best you can be. Good luck and stay Keto people
More than that. Good protein and good fat also needs cruciferous veggies to cleanse the liver and lemon and lime, or apple cider vinegar that deals with the uric acid.
very true. glad to see some believers on here, and know their shit!!
OMG. Really?!!! So many incorrect statements.
Simnett Nutrition do you have a TH-cam channel? B/c h/o a sec while I go downvote everything on there b/c you obvs don't research shit and now you're high-fiving the hate and lies others spread on topics you are ignorant af of. GET TF OUT
I have read through maybe half of the articles provided. I have a bachelors degree in kinesiology (the scientific study of human motion, and it's systems). I have been following a very low carbohydrate diet for 4 years now, breaking it every Christmas season to eat holidays meals with loved ones. Here are my thoughts, briefly summarized.
Many of these articles are specific to epileptic children. Any results from these studies CANNOT be applied to the general public, whose anatomy and physiology is not the same. The fact most do not describe what specifically is being fed to the patients is problematic. They claim nutritional deficiencies, and then fail to describe what the nutrient profile of their patient's diets. Keto diets especially come in many drastically different forms and cannot be all lumped into one category. On top of that, the trials appeared to be on the small end, with successful results in terms of reduced seizures. So definitely a route worth examining in greater detail still.
Cholesterol is it's own rabbit hole. No research supports the idea that LDL cholesterol correlates with heart disease at all. The recently discovered sub-fractions of LDL cholesterol (by Krauss in the 1980's) is a promising line of research exonerating the effect of saturates on LDL cholesterol, which makes the total amount of LDL measured in the blood immaterial in terms of CVD risk. But HDL cholesterol has been shown to be far more strongly correlated anyway, so is worth more attention than LDL cholesterol. But this fact has been strangely ignored by the mainstream research community for no apparent reason. Look up Krauss's work on LDL cholesterol, it's quite fascinating.
Idk if your mind has changed since it’s been 4 years, but I wanted to post this video here: th-cam.com/video/JvKNzLRmzLg/w-d-xo.html . It goes into depth on cholesterol. 4 years ago I was also convinced on the keto diet, so it’s very possible you’ve changed your mind. The more I look into it, the more I think alternative mechanisms play into the perceived health benefits of the diet rather than ketosis itself.
Shipping fruits and vegetables from around the world is not environmentally sound, eating locally raised beef is. You will be hard pressed to be a balanced vegan diet with just locally grown plants, especially during winter.
Smelly, low energy, eye bags, constipation, higher mortality rate. I'll pass on keto.
Keto is AMAZING! I reversed my prediabetes got rid of my severe hypertension got rid of my PCOS lost 134 pounds in about a year and lowered my bad cholesterol he wants to tell me Keto is this and that? Oh and I've been at it for 7 years! Lol 😂😂😂 Smh One more thing, Keto CURED my left ventricular hypertrophy, yes my left HEART ventricle was reversed with KETO! This is just fear mongering and vegan propaganda. PS. also, I got rid of depression, bad skin problems and anxiety. When I went VEGAN for a while I felt like DEATH and had severe anxiety, needed MEDICATION to control it from all the carbs/sugars, I quit that and never going there again and everything resolved with Keto. Veganism is is NOT for everyone, ESP DIABETICS and countless other issues, it is more fit for a MINORITY not the MAJORITY. And btw Vegan women get amenorrhea left and right, just check out Leanne Vogel, a Holistic Nutritionist , and get enlightened please. She got her period back after it was gone for 8 years as a VEGAN. Yes, she did it with KETO. I could go on and on but I don't have all day. :-) ( My 134 lb weight loss story is on my youtube channel if you want ACTUAL truth on what Keto can do for ya'! ) You debunked NOTHING.
AlvinaRayne I felt like absolute crap on a vegan diet. I was doing it the right way and ended up with severe anxiety and depression. Same for my husband. We love the keto diet 🙌🏼
I have seen this for myself. Keto is literally lifesaving for many people.
Call bullshit all you like, it doesn't change the fact that keto has saved countless people from morbid obesity, diabetes, depression, anxiety, to name but a few. Keto doesn't have to be non vegan or primarily plant based. Mic has taken one guys poor interpretation of the Keto diet, and rebutted with a load of biased cherry picked nonsense. I'm a big fan of Mic's, so this vid is incredibly disappointing to see :-(
the exact opposite occured to me. I startd with Keto and yes I lost like 20 pounds, but I didn't feel good at all, triglycerides, cholesterol, high blood pressure, etc. out of balance, anxiety through the roof. I've been mostly vegan for the last year, and never felt better. All back to normal.
There is a documentary called "Fat Sick and Nearly Dead" where this guy goes on a juice fast for 60 days. He drank nothing but juice for 60 days, lost a ton of weight, and got off of all his medications. However, this doesn't prove that a juice fast is safe for long term health. The anecdotes people have with regards to Keto are interesting and warrant further research, but they don't prove anything. Long term studies need to be done to determine Keto's safety (and by long term I don't mean 24 weeks). I hope this diet keeps working for you, but Keto has by no means been proven to be safe long term.
I've been on Keto + IF for 92 days. I feel fantastic, my mind is clear, I'm sleeping really well, I've lost 41#, my pants are crazy baggy, my testosterone and HGH are as high as they were in my 30s (I'm 61). I have NONE of the nasty side effects you are attributing to Keto.
Great news! How do you feel now? 3 years later? Still believe in keto?
@@7iLeto : I lost 95 #s in the first year, maintained since... I am on and off with Keto and fasting, but keeping my weight down... feel great
Thats good. Yea dont listen to this vegan fool.
@@7iLeto I'm two years in and still feel indescribably better than I did when I started
that is not because of "keto", it is just because you cut sugar and processed crap from your diet lol... Keto will increase your chances of developing acute pancreatitis tenfold, which will in turn turn into chronic pancreatitis.
Dear video, I have listened to you, my experiences is fully different as a diabetic, I went into two years in the ketosis, lost 75 pounds, gained a lot of muscle, Lower my A1c and I feel greatest I have ever felt! I do not know how you think this way
I'm sure you meant to say, "as a former diabetic."
Do you know that the anecdotal evidence you provided is not scientific? I choose massive and generally accepted, unbiased scientific evidence compared to your subjective experience.
I once bought into the fad of Keto, but the more evidence I look at, the more I don’t believe in it. It seems everyone who went on a keto diet were unhealthy before. Of course losing weight would greatly benefit you, not the ketosis part of it. There’s a lot more evidence as to why I don’t believe in the keto diet anymore, but yeah not gonna waste my time writing all of it
@@RiDankulous Then Joe, you should be on a statin, taking aspirin every day, eating eight meals per day of food fried in rancid seed oils. If you cannot sleep at night you should take a sleeping pill that does not allow you to establish restorative REM sleep. Do not exercise too vigorously because the seed oils and the chronic inflammation from excess carbs have degraded your vascular system and you may have a heart attack or stroke. To bad your cholesterol process was disrupted by your statin, now that you are old you are encountering early dementia, and cannot remember where you put the eight prescriptions you take every day. You can however feel content that you followed the food guidelines and when you went to the doctors for all your chronic ailments that the doctors followed a standard of care that kept them from getting sued by you.
So if i eat nothing but avocados and nuts would that be vegan or keto ?
There is such a thing as vegan keto, must be healthier than meat eating Kato but mic says still adverse reactions and risks
Veganism is not a diet, it’s moral and ethical system or lifestyle.
You’d be a Veto or a Kegan you pick :)
Both! Despite how many describe them, they aren't opposing concepts. Combined, they're probably incredibly healthy and sustainable. The only thing is that having a diet range of 2 things would be a bit too restrictive to stick to, so throw in some seeds, coconuts, oils, full-fat tofu, and fibrous veggies and you'll be thriving!
@@nab.7250 It's different for different people. Overall, it's a combination of all of the above, but for some, they are literally vegan for only one or two of those reasons. I think Mic has a video on it actually.
You misrepresented the optics of a keto diet: lots of fats (saturated fats are fine, but no vegetable oils or trans fats, with the exception of high-oleic sunflower oil, olive oil, avocado oil & coconut oil), moderate to low amount of protein (dairy is controversial), and piles and piles of low carb veggies like greens. Visually, it's mainly greens & other low-carb veggies. Many folk (including keto dieters) falsely think the diet includes a lot of protein- which is false. Low-carb fruits like lemons and tart berries are also encouraged. Remember that fat is 9 calories per gram (keto is mainly fat), and carbs only 4 calories per gram. Keto dieters tend to consume 20- 80 (depending on the type of keto diet) grams of net carbs (might be 20-300 grams total carbs/carbs+fiber) per day- almost all of that is veggies. Considering that veggies are mainly water and fiber & considering that fat is so calorie-dense, optically, it's mostly veggies. You may not have intended to be dishonest in your representation, but nonetheless are. Mic.the Vegan, if you had the level of honor you judge other for not having, you would correct this misrepresentation (if you ever see this comment). You are not helping the vegan cause by promulgating such misinformation. Like this comment to help get it noticed.
Vegetables and berries are low-fat not low-carb. It just makes no sense to exclude healthy foods over some fad diet.
You clearly misunderstand what the keto diet entails. Yes, of course, vegetable are low in fat, but that does not be that the keto diet excludes them. it is the very opposite. The keto diet encourages consuming large amounts of low-carb vegetables and fruits like lemons and tart berries. Phytochemicals from fruit and vegetable are very healthful and FULLY included.
Jarred Davidson berries can up the net carbs quickly so must be restricted or they'll kick you out of ketosis. Keto diets are just a dumb idea to begin with there are no exclusive benefits unless you're epileptic and in fact many other diets are healthier.
Jarred, thank you for your info. I am a recent keto. 3 months in and loving it. However, I do have concerns with acidity factor and the possibility of raising cortisol. Dr. Greger, a well informed and strong vegan also shares research that meats raise insulin levels and that Saturated fats diminish endothelial function.
With these insecurities in mind, I found your response a very balanced one in moving forward with Keto. I am going to continue my Keto journey, however I do so by supplementing with minerals, especially magnesium and potassium, supplementing with ketone based products, cutting back on my meat intake to reduce acidity and cortisol. Your thoughts...?
This is the study about saturated fat, specifically Olive Oil and EVOO nutritionfacts.org/video/lipotoxicity-how-saturated-fat-raises-blood-sugar/
i've tried both. and to be honest, they both had their own ups and downs...keto caused me to have heart burn all the time but i lost a significant amount of water weight, and being a vegan caused me to have gas that would blow a hole in a wall but i was more energetic. what has worked best for me in the long run was to get rid of processed foods and sugar. i started exercising (slowly building up strength and endurance) and eventually lost ~45 pounds. not one diet seems to work best for everyone, and we each need to try different ones to see what's best for us individually.
Mr Triceracop Hahaha gas that would blow a hole in the wall. Just started hclf vegan and that is 💯 haha. It went away once I stayed away from the beans and sulfur veggies though, my body can't process those well.
Just abstain from processed foods and eat only low to moderate amount of grains.
I haven’t eaten processed foods for years even before going vegan and haven’t had gassy issues. Gassiness is caused by not having the right enzymes to break a certain food down. Even with taking digestive enzymes with my food my digestion was terrible on a hclf vegan diet and I had to stop completely. It was exasperating my already bad health issues (Lyme Disease)
Not improves, morphs / changes / adapts. Basically introducing new bacteria which your body wasn't used to previously. Lucky me, major IBS issues, most veggies give me horrible stomach pain. Keto, zero stomach pain unless I consume sucralose. or Kale or too much sulfurous veggies. Even eggs w/ it's sulfur is a huge issue.
fun fact, rinse your beans before eating and you wont get gas.
If people are not sure what to believe, why not just try both the keto diet and a vegan diet? See for yourself what happens to your body.
Here is my story:
After 3 years of being vegan, I started drifting away and started eating dairy again for 1 year. I put on 20 pounds from being vegetarian and then I decided that was enough. I went back to vegan and decided to try the keto diet (vegan) to lose some weight. I have to say that there are crazy changes to my body, both good and bad.
Good:
- I have been losing weight (around 4 pounds per week)
- I wake up more easily, less groggy
- I don't feel hungry all the time
Bad:
- I get blackouts from super low blood pressure, which means just getting up from a chair makes me dizzy
- my sleep is now broken (I researched and that's a common thing on keto)
- I start to shake sometimes due to hypoglycemia
- I have no energy to do sports or run with my dog
- my boyfriend who is doing the same diet has a mild headache every day
- THE FOOD IS SO EXPENSIVE! Like imagine buying tons of nuts, almond butter, almond or cashew milk, blueberries, blackberries, raspberries, spirulina, almond flour bread, full fat coconut milk, tea, lá croix, eurythol, unsweetened dark chocolate.... Dude, I'm not kidding I'm spending around $30-50/day plus 2 hours prep time.
- Plus you can't eat anything ready made out because the choices are super limited.
So, I'm doing this because I want to see for myself if this really works. Some people say you get more energy, and I want to give it more time to see if that happens to me, but after 2 months, I have no plans on continuing with this mostly due to the increased amount of fat going to my arteries and and how expensive and non practical it is to find food.
I donate blood regularly and I will be compring my results from previous times I've donated when I was full vegan and when I was vegetarian.
Are you pre diabetic? You should also add sea salt to your water or milk. As keto can cause you to flush out the minerals from your kidneys. Keep in mind that mineral loss will be more substantial if you are consuming stuff that contributes to leeching the minerals out of your body like coffee. And the bread nuts and flour are not helping you at all since they also contribute to leeching minerals out of your bones and teeth. Nothing wrong with having it. As long as it's not part of what you eat everyday.
Why are spending so much money on a keto diet? Have you read or watch anything by Dr. Eric Westman? Are following a strict vegan keto? I've been doing the Keto for several months and my food spending is actually less than it was before I started doing keto. To be fair, I also follow a time-restricted eating plan (I eat one or two meals a day and fast the rest of the time). I generally eating the same few meals. I believe that a healthy keto diet is cheaper to follow than a non-keto healthy diet. If you haven't, please look up Ken Berry, MD, Dr Eric Westman, Dr Stephen Phinney. If you're following a vegan keto then it is more difficult because the ingredients are more expensive. Also, the low energy is quite common when you first starts doing keto. It should go away after two weeks. Al
I am so thankful I got out of the keto cult!! WFPB for two years now and feeling so good!! My blood work is as pure as possible according to my doctor, so much more energy, my hair and nails are so strong, reversed endometriosis, and I am finally enjoying food freedom… no longer a slave to tracking my food and macros like so many unfortunate souls are doing these days.
I have also had such a positive and easy-going pregnancy! My midwives tell me at every appointment how great I look, how good my BP is, etc!
Hey could you please share what diet were you following to reverse endometriosis? Appreciate it.
@@AndresBDim I went vegan (whole foods plant based)!
Great! I hope one day you'll get out also from the vegan cult!
@@herrgado Why are you so offended that people are finally wanting to do whats best for themselves and the world? Must suck to be you.
@Commander_Kayn why?
Been Keto for 1 year and still going strong, Down 60lbs, Perfect A1C, Tryglicerides 45, LDL 75, HDL 80,Blood Pressure 105/70, Feel Amazing, Energy 24/7 and just feel great. These are acutal Keto Results 1 year on Keto. Its awesome.
I lost 70lbs in 8 months without killing animals and eating fat.
Your ldl is above the healthy range of 50-70 lol, what are you talking about?
LondonCalling, how about the animals that were killed, as well as all the other creatures (insects, microbes) to clear the land to grow monocrops? The only sustainable model is to return to prairies (98% of which are gone to produce monocrops) and let ruminants and perennial grasses coexist and do what they evolved to do. And Gary, isn't it incredible, having that sustained energy all day long? I can do a 25-30 mile MTB ride, fasted, and have a blast!
Tony Donaldson do you know what pemmican is?
j hike I know what it is. Haven’t tried it, yet. Thoughts?
Wow this diet is so sad...
like your profile
Thanks!
Shannon Anastosopolos Thanks for your kind question.
Well I'm a vegan and I do fitness and Yoga and I know through experience, that we don't need animal proteins for good muscles or weight-loss ...
Might wanna look into "Starch Solution" as well, Dr. McDougall has the best ideas about living a healthy and kind life in my opinion.
Unfortunately most people in the diet industry just go with the mainstream opinions and tell people what they wanna hear, that's why they don't work in 99% of cases and cost so much.
It's vegan dogma. He chooses to ignore the positive studies to promote his agenda. Long history of hipster vegans playing the same od tune here on the tube.
The Intelligent Omnivore Dude what studies? I'm living a starch based life and all he says is true. I was really sick before and am now totally healthy and lost 50 pounds on top of that.
So I'm also just imagining everything that happened to me and tens of thousands of other people who were saved by the starch based diet?
I think you're dogmatic for denying facts.
I was seriously addicted to sugar having grown up in a family where sugar was a part of nearly everything we ate. We drank sodas, sweet tea, and gallons of Kool-Aid loaded with multiple cups of sugar per gallon. Both my mom and dad were expert cooks and bakers so there was no shortage of sweets at any time. I was never fat but my health began to turn for the worse after I turned 50 (currently 63). Since beginning a Keto diet I no longer eat or have cravings for sugar. My diet consists of tons of vegetables, moderate fats and protein, and low carbs. I eat one sometimes two meals per day then fast for at least 18 hours before the next cycle of meals. I only drink lemon water, tea, and coffee all unsweetened and I DON'T SNACK. My health has improved greatly since I started and I have no problems sticking to the diet because I no longer have cravings for anything sweet. My goal was not so much to lose weight (even though I did), but to wean myself from sugar which I did. The diet I'm on is touted as a "Healthy" Keto diet which implies there are unhealthy Keto diets. So even though the diet works for me, I do understand the reason for concern. Keto is great for losing weight but maybe it should not be used as a long term solution. One must use common sense based on knowledge and not just follow the Keto gurus. I think all diets must be tailored to the individual and no one knows you better than you. So just be careful, learn as much about the diet as possible and implement what works for you.
eat fruit sugar. stop eating the refined its that simple
now that you fast for 18 hours and dont eat refined sugars anymore. I think you are good and will stay healthy for a vary period of time. Also the other guy commenting on your comment. You can eat berries, and strawberries on the ketor diet.
@@amirrhodesve791 Seriously. I don't get why people have to make it so complicated and extreme. Cut refined sugar and processed stuff, then just eat the whole foods that you want/like.
Yes, maybe keto lets you eat berries but a lot of whole foods are demonized because they have too many carbs, yet you can eat all the carcinogenic bacon that you want. How does that make sense?
@@mchobbit2951 litterally I was addicted to sugar but now I just mostly eat fruit but do still have refined sugar now and then. Refined in moderation isn't that bad when your eating a overall healthy diet.
@@amirrhodesve791 Maybe I should have said severely reduce vs. cut as I agree with that. Of course it's best when you fully cut it, but better to have it in moderation than to end up in a restrict/binge cycle if you can't.
I hate keto for demonizing so many foods that aren't even unhealthy. It encourages eating disorders. It often floors me that it's so popular.
Year and a half on keto, no stress, depression, low self-esteem, heart problems or lack of energy; more concentration, best grades, no feel of loneliness anymore, no muscle loss, no stress while watching people eat carbs (don't remotely feel like eating them), no anxiety for eating.
So where are the so mentioned deadly or adverse effects? As long as I'm concerned I'm still alive.
There was an adverse effect for every sentient being you paid to have killed
@@afaultytoaster surprise surprise, in nature you eat living things.
Unless you eat rocks, in that case, I'm really interested to know about it.
Dr Berg, whose channel I enjoy watching, says that people do the keto diet wrong because they don’t eat the requisite amount of green vegetables. He recommends about 7-10 cups per day.
What do you think about that?
SD **tumbleweed..**
green veggies are awful for u. Doc Berg. issues
Dr. Berg is a chiropractor, not a medical doctor, and has no more "expertise" in nutrition than any other educated layman. He skirts dangerously close to practicing medicine without a license.
SD Dr.Berg is snake oil salesman, getting views and money by selling bullshit. Only a vegan diet is healthiest!
Amazing ME not agreeing nor disagreeing, but Mic isn't a doctor either..
Not promoting a keto lifystyle at all but he is just loading this video with misinformation and cherry picking outdated studies.
Alexis Mayer Just to fulfill his anti-meat vegan agenda. I saw right through his bullshit.
"Out dated" how can a study be outdated? Vegan Mic can be incorrect from time to time. Unnatural Vegan, calls him out a lot and is far more accurate if you want a better critique on a keto diet from our camp :)
Unnatural vegan video on ketosis is good: m.th-cam.com/video/PW4xqnbxFO8/w-d-xo.html
Mic has his aggressive tone but it’s a different way to deliver the same message. People go from the trashiest way of eating (SAD) to keto and act like they found the light.
I suggest that if your intent is to lose weight, that you checkout Dr. Douglas Graham's book
'The 80/10/10 Diet (Balancing Your Health, Your Weight,
and Your Life One Luscious Bite at a time)'
AND his TH-cam videos, particularly:
The Starch Solution
th-cam.com/video/aUaNDDuqmCs/w-d-xo.html
In addition, if you visit his website he offers a Free course:
www.drmcdougall.com/health/education/free-mcdougall-program/
He also offers a Free ebook on what to eat to improve ones health:
www.drmcdougall.com/health/education/cpb/
Evidently his focus and motivation is to help as many people as possible, obtain better health.
He thinks cherrypicking is good
This is an interesting video. On keto my cholesterol came down 100 points ( to normal), triglycerides became normal, fast heart rate became normal, blood pressure became normal, alc became normal (was high), lost 70 pounds, etc. Grains weren't working for me.
Keto has been shown to be risky in numerous studies, especially without doctor supervision. The Agoge diet was the only diet that helped me lose that stubborn fat without hurting my body.
I tried a vegan keto diet. I felt so fucking ill it was unbelievable. I still can't eat coconut oil to this day.
heh, coconut oil is to be put on your face and hands, anyway. no need to eat it ;)
now you tell me
I get nauseous when I eat (or even think about) too much fatty food as is (avocados, oily food, etc). I can't even imagine trying to make these fatty foods the cornerstone of my diet..
Donal O
^^^ what you just said made me laugh so much
Donal O My sentiments exactly 😂
Before I went vegan I was on and off the Keto diet to manage my weight and was continuously feeling like crap. So glad I made the change!
When you're feeling that way it means to eat some carbs to restore glycogen
Harold A. Franch, MD, professor of nephrology at Emory University School of Medicine in Atlanta, Georgia, said the new study findings are not surprising given the well-known problems with excess protein and high net acid load in the diet. “Studies in 1998 showed Atkins diets, the predecessor of keto diets, worsened kidney stones by increasing urinary calcium and lowering protective citrate. The effect of dietary protein on raising single nephron [glomerular filtration rate], worsening proteinuria, and driving renal progression is ancient history for nephrologists,” Dr Franch said.
I did Keto for 2 weeks and never felt so bad. I had a neck cramp that was just awful and wouldnt go away. I had a massive headache and felt tired all the time. I felt thirsty all the time. My ketone levels were high but I didnt feel the boost that people claim. I started the keto diet after a 3 day no food fast, and while that was hard at the beginning, one the 2nd day I wasnt having hunger pains and I had never felt so good in all my life. During the fast my ketones spiked up and my dark circles around my eyes disappeared and my skin looked flawless. I was standing up straight and tall and life felt effortless. I thought keto was a hack diet but thought it might extend this feeling. See my fast ended when I was making my daughter a peanut butter and jelly sandwich and by habit I licked the spoon which caused my hunger pains to return and I couldnt at that point resist eating. But keto made me feel about as bad as I have ever felt in my life.
@@michellewilcox7175 I was eating quite a bit of bacon, avacado, and green leafy veggies. I feel like I was getting the right ratio of sodium to potassium. I think I may have a weak liver from eating a poumd of candy every other day for 30 yrs. Always had a bad candy addiction.
These kinds of videos crack me up, I found out I had type 2 diabetes in January my A1C was 10 and my blood glucose was 240. They put me on medications that I stopped taking within weeks, there was no need for them after I found out about the ketogenic diet. I went low carb high fat and within a few days my blood sugar was in the normal range for a non diabetic, I had blood work done in April, My A1C dropped to 6 and next time it'll likely be in the low 5 to mid 4 range. My triglycerides dropped 50 points, my total cholesterol dropped 20 points but was already in the normal range, HDL and LDL stayed the same but those were normal anyway. I did this eating bacon, eggs, steaks, butter, heavy cream, full fat cheese and chicken with the skin on. I also eat a large serving of vegetables with butter at dinner and an avocado with lunch. Even right after a large meal my blood glucose never goes over 110 and after 2 hours it's always back in the 80's. I have also lost 80lbs in just over 3 months without doing any extra exercise, when your body has to use the fat for fuel it will burn off pretty quickly, when you load up on carbs your body can't get to the fat burning because the carbs will burn first. As far as people who are vegans you do what you like I have no problem with that, but PLEASE stop coming up with these BS videos to try to convert people, you are doing a disservice to other people's health.
Well said! Totally agree. Seriously, these dudes always look for the odd exception! Ignored are all the super results that Keto folks have achieved, hence the negative stabs to try to make it Look bad. However, the numbers don't lie. Compare this channel to Sten Ekberg's or Dr. Berg's and then one can understand the envy!
Sorry Mic but I have to give you a thumbs down on this one. I went keto on Nov 6th and lost 20lbs in the first month, I have before and after pics to prove it, never once restricted or even counted calories. While I am not on strict (20gr of carbs or less) keto at the moment since I am trying to put on more muscle mass (you are right about that point) I still eat high fat and I have never felt better.
Yes I did have one adverse reaction, my daily vitamin D3 would give me nausea for some unknown reason, easy fix, got my D3 from the sun.
Funny that you mention adverse effects because a strict vegan diet made me very ill, like not even functional for a whole month ill, yet on keto I was hitting the gym after 12hr days at work, so much for your argument there. Not calling you a liar, just saying that everyone is wired a little differently and I responded VERY well to keto, looking to try vegan keto for next time I cut.
Enigma Cipher I'm discovering this more and more. I think the key is to start eating more while less process foods all around. Keto or no. Fyi...I just finished up my beef broth with grass fed butter...super good :)
I was actually pretty good at avoiding processed foods even before keto, my weakness was beans and rice, I am a Cajun and we know how to really cook that. Going keto took all that bloat off of me and then went to work on underlying fat so fast that I had people ask me if I was on meth LOL By December 16th I was down 25lbs and I shifted gears to my muscle growth program which involves some carbs pre and post workouts to control cortisol levels, I have been very successful with that, hit a 26.3 FFMI (Fat free mass index) which according to some (Vegan Gains) is not even possible for a person not using steroids, oh how I love proving internet myths wrong.
Arctic Cod Liver Oil is supposed to be high in Vitamin D. Have you ever tried it? I live in the northeast US so it's not as bright during the fall/winter months.
Enigma, exactly. The truth is out. Human beings are made to eat fat and protein and minimal carbohydrate. We store 5 grams of glucose in the blood and only 2000 calories of glycogen in the muscle. We also cannot store proteins. If human beings were not mean to eat fat and burn fat, we would not store 50000 calories of fat in the average person. Vegan Mick has not done enough reading to know he is wrong.
I agree, Avocados, nuts, greens, ground flax, vegetables, blackberries, strawberries and plenty of other whole foods. Also, when eating a higher fat diet, fat assists with regularity. What the vegans cannot grasp is that not all calories are absorbed. When I was vegan, I was eating a lot of fat. Subscribe to my channel for upcoming videos on my time with veganism, raw food, then 80/10/10 and what I find to be the most sustainable, enjoyable and health promoting, low carb, high fat.
Way to fear monger. Was in ketosis for 2 years 182lbs down. All blood work good. Glad I didn't see this back then.
Lots of people on the internet trying to push their dogma with blind loyalty to their brand with complete disregard for what might happen to other people, I am also glad you didn't see it back then.
@@Kaledrone Your statement can be applied to anyone, including pro-Keto proponents.
About 2 years ago I tried a keto vegetarian (lacto ovo) diet and lost about 5 pounds, but felt sluggish and depressed. I also developed cramps in my lower legs for awhile. I was on it for a little over two months, and when I realized I wasn’t going to lose anymore weight or feel any better, I happily went back to my vegetarian diet.
Shortly after that I decided to finally go vegan AND calorie count (without going to extremes as I love to eat). My cramps disappeared after about 3 months, and I ended up 15 pounds lighter - much better results!!!
My keto experiment was a success: I learned that a low fat vegan diet is far better!! 😊
First, throwing out a bunch of side effects, without listing their prevalence, is worthless. Second, we have no idea how many of these studies are referring to children on the ketogenic diet which you mentioned you are relying on at the beginning of the video. The children who are on it, are on it for a reason, meaning they are not healthy to begin with, thus trying to apply it to the general population incorrect.
This video is obviously biased and everything is based on blatant cherry picking. Also he didn't debunk anything.
I'm a vegan and I agree with all of this. On the other hand, there is also no evidence that keto is safe for adults long term. There is plenty of evidence that starch-based diets are safe and a good way to manage weight and prevent disease, so the evidence-based choice is obvious, if we put personal taste preferences aside.
bakslashr bullcrap
Etienne-Emile Antikatastaseis every long term study in both adults and children has shown a decrease in heart disease and cancer. The only negative side effects they've commonly found are kidney stones and in children stunted growth if not given the correct supplementation to take care of their bones.
Also, you say that the children on the keto diets are obviously on the diet because they are unhealthy to start, and thus it cannot be applied to the general public, but you seem to have forgotten that the general public is also quite ill. Why would this not, then, apply?
I noticed your channel bashes the ketogenic diet quite a bit. Let me explain my situation and why that diet works for me. During 1999 in Kuwait something happened that made my thyroid produce at the level of a 99 year old person. I think it was radiation since I was around that, but something changed when I got back. After 10 years of weight gain I went from 173 to 305. It has been hell to get the weight off over the years and I've had the opinion of a lot of doctors along the way. I developed type two diabetes about five years ago and have struggled with that a lot. I tried doing the vegan diet, but any grain products I ate would spike my blood sugar. Wheat was by far the worst, but the normal other grains always created a response. My dad went on the keto diet and has been eating that way for over two years. He lost 80 pounds the first year and stopped taking all medications. I figured that may help me so I tried it. I did it for three months and it made a world of difference. All my blood sugars stayed in the normal range without medication. My lipid panels all returned to normal ranges. The diet is hard to stay on for me. Vegan was even worse for me. I returned back to the normal diet trying to be more health conscious, but eventually my A1C went back to 14 and I started back on the insulin which really makes things worse. By diet and exercise changes I was able to get it back to around 8 but while taking two oral medications. I told the doctors I'd never take insulin again because of the weight gain that comes with it. So I came to a choice of either taking medications the rest of my life or going back on the keto diet. The whole problem with diabetes is being carb intolerant. If people are lactose intolerant, they cut out the lactose products. Being carb intolerant, it only makes sense to remove the carbohydrates from the diet. After two weeks of being back on the keto diet my blood sugars are normal again without the medications. I suppose if I did vegan without doing grains it would have a similar effect, but eating that way is very difficult for me. I'm definitely not knocking being vegan, but you should tone down the keto bashing because it does work for some of us out here with diabetes. I bought some cook books this time around for keto recipes and it's opened up a whole new world for me. I have made some tasty items using mainly almond flour that are low in carbs and high in fat/protein. If I want to remove the diabetes as a health factor and get off the medications, this is really the only choice I have that I can stick with for the rest of my life.
Thank you for sharing your experience. Can you tell me how long you have now consistently been on the keto diet?
Marek Kuchta maybe he had a heart attack and that's why he still hasn't replied...
I love how keto dieters aren’t trying to debunk all of the studies he showed and instead just claim he is cherry picking. If you can’t show how a study is illegitimate, how is he cherry picking? He is showing you thevtruth
It would be nice to know to what extent these issues apply to plant-based/vegan keto, the war between carbs and fat is to narrow-minded, sadly
One can expect plant-based keto to yield better results, but the food choices are quite limited. "the war between carbs and fat is to narrow-minded, sadly" Actually, the best research shows that eating lots of saturated fat promotes insulin resistance and is causal in heart disease. And animal fat consumption is one of the two strongest predictor variables in the sharp rise in dementia in Asia (the other is added sugar).
Hes done a vegan keto video. Also, he talked about things that applied to all of keto. Also also, Im not sure why anyone would do keto lmao, especially with all of the downsides, and given that a high carb diet can be the best thing for health
@@karlwheatley1244 This is just absolutely false. Tell me what the mechanics are of saturated fat promoting insulin resistance? What does "promote" mean? The mechanics of insulin resistance is TOO MUCH INSULIN. Understand? Too much insulin flooding your system causes the cells to become resistant to that insulin hormone. What causes your pancreas to pump out excessive insulin? A high carb (sugar) diet will cause insulin spikes that spike higher and last longer flooding your system with this excessive insulin. Does consuming saturated fat cause excessive insulin spikes? NO IT DOES NOT. Sugar/carbs cause these excessive spikes. To say "the best research" is a joke. You understand there is no good research on this topic? And NEVER will be? The only way would be to lock a substantial number (1,000?) of people up and tightly control what they eat for a significant amount of time which would be just too expensive and therefore will NEVER happen.
@@KraigwithaK2112 "This is just absolutely false. Tell me what the mechanics are of saturated fat promoting insulin resistance? What does "promote" mean? The mechanics of insulin resistance is TOO MUCH INSULIN. Understand? "
No, that is not true, and in fact, you kind of have the causal arrows backwards--to much insulin release is a direct by-product of insulin resistance.
When you eat lots of fat--especially saturated fat--the cells in your muscles get full of fat, so then if you eat some carbs, insulin ferries the resulting glucose to the muscle cells, "knocks on the door" of the muscle cell, but insulin signaling is impaired, and the cell doesn't let the glucose in, as if it is saying to the insulin "Go away, I am already full of fat so I can't take your glucose)." But the body can't have all that excess glucose hanging out in the bloodstream, so it releases even more insulin to try to force the glucose into the cells.
Experimental studies, some going back over 80 years, clearly establish that ingesting fat creates insulin resistance within just 3 hours of eating it.
This 5-minutes video explains it, with links to the research summarized underneath:
nutritionfacts.org/video/what-causes-insulin-resistance/
This one is helpful too:
nutritionfacts.org/video/diabetes-as-a-disease-of-fat-toxicity/
People can rapidly reverse their diabetes by eating diets that are very low in fat (~10% of calories, not 30%) and eating lots of high-fiber WHOLE food carbs.
I've been eating low carb high fat for around three years, just had blood work done, all normal.
Normal could still mean you are at risk for developing heart disease. What your doctor says is “normal” could still put you at risk for developing disease.
Low carb is still ok. But keto is trash . Increased acid load means increased likelihood of developing stones
@@DrSiddiqui nice fake profile.
Hey Mic! What are your thoughts on intermittent fasting? Would love to see a video about that!
Me too
I am doing no carb, keto intermittent fasting, and vegan...
@James Parker berries coconut oil tofu eggplant greens cabbage cauliflower seeds...
I cannot digest high fat at all I get horrible IBS and acid reflux. I had heart palpitations too! Never ever ever high fat is deadly - I just stick to 80/20 mostly fruits and vegetables 20% protein.
I miss the old background with that leafy brown thing on the wall😔
ha, i like the new blue background!
Hanna Banana first thing I saw when he came on. Funny how we focus on the weirdest things.
Peace and love ❤️
Maybe it was lunch
me too!
lol
1. Go to Google scholar.
2. Type in negative effects of the vegan diet.
3. Find thousands of results of why you shouldn't be vegan.
This same video could be made about the vegan diet.
zakiah tukes ...wrong...no side effects of vegan diet...ask 5000 years of people in the east
I was on a Keto diet before I went plant based. I didn't realise how bad I felt or how little energy I had until I went plant based - I'm never going back.
@HM Fitness Once you get fat adapted, you'll know the answer. It gives a consistent energy level without crashing.
On a side note, keto is good for endurance and prolonged activities like running, and trailing but it doesn't shine as much for super strenuous activities that require fast energy use, such as mountain climbing and circuits.
Keto diet still requires carbs. 20 to 50g is already enough to fuel your body. You may increase your carb intakes depending on the activity at hand.
@HM Fitness You don't need to tell me that I'm stupid. I'm just stating studies done regarding keto. You can do whatever you like. You can even go High carb low fat and it will still work.
Why are people nowadays get easily triggered? Like wtf is wrong with you? I'm not even stating that what you think is wrong.The length of your comment tells a lot of story about you.
I've done keto (done 3 months) and high carb diet (2 months) and now back to keto. Both works. It still depends on your preference. What I strongly believe is that you can't be high fat and high carb the same time because of health and high insulin issues.
Keto works. That's a fact. I've reversed my hypertension, and blood sugar level. I even lost 48 lbs in just 3 1/2 months coupled with HIIT sessions. I also do half marathons, Sundays once every 2 weeks.
The first month of keto will suck. As you will feel so bad and a bit dizzy, I did not finish my runs during that month as it felt so bad. But the 2nd month is amazing. It felt normal and I can do my routines well like I used to. I shifted to High carb after some months because a friend told me to try it and it was also nice, but I went to back to keto after a couple of months because I missed eating meat.
It will depend on your body still. Just listen to it.
@HM Fitness awww look how riled up you got. so cute
@HM Fitness that would depend on the distance. the longer the fatter
@HM Fitness ever heard about gluconeogenesis?
I did a paleo/keto diet for 4 years. I was the leanest I had ever been in my life. Some of the major side effects were hair loss, fatigue, insomnia, anxiety, and best of all debilitating depression that took years to resolve.
These diets work until they don’t and tank your thyroid function while also depleting your liver of all its glycogen stores. Becoming so extremely sick made me do research and find out that the body actually runs on glucose and without it, it will convert everything you eat (including your internal organs) into glucose. The sad part about all this is that we live in a society that is obsessed with looks and most people will try anything to look and feel great including destroying their health. The true markers of health are:
Sleep
Hair, nails, skin
Digestion
Libido
Mood (relaxed and calm)
If any of those are off it’s because of your poor dietary choices. It’s taken me over 4 years to recover from that nightmare and I’m still not 100%.
@Sahanda yumurta please read more biology books. There’s no such thing as the wrong kind of keto cause they’re all wrong.
Oh goodness that sounds terrible!! I hope you’re recovering okay! May be a long process to reverse the keto damage but the body is fully capable of healing!! Wishing you the best.
I think you just confused correlation with causation. You state your side effects included hair loss, fatigue, insomnia, anxiety, and depression. How did you establish that these problems were caused by your keto diet? Also, exactly how did your alleged keto diet look like? I ask this question because I have encountered numerous cases of people who were allegedly doing keto but did not understand that keto requires over 60% of fat (if you reduce carbs, you need to increase fat). It would be interesting to see how you established this causation and what your meals looked like. With this information I might be more inclined to accept your statements as valid.
I have been on a Keto diet for about 2 months so far and I have exactly the opposite effects listed in the video as far as weight loss, energy, focus, mood. I am enjoying the foods. I don’t know what the subjects of the studies the video cites were eating but the example diet that was flashed on the screen but it seemed excessive. I am going to continue on the diet and see what my annual physical show for cholesterol levels.
My wife and I both have seen amazing results on Keto, been doing it for three years and our young doctor has been on it for 12 years and totally endorses Keto for all around health, good idea to make sure you do some form of exercise,
@@jimmarten626 how about your cholesterol level?
@@shana_sakai on keto your ldl goes up but the ldl is used by the liver, when you have insulin resistance the ldl is destroyed and can’t be used by the liver so it creates deposits in the arteries and cause heart attacks. There are two types of ldl.
@@shana_sakai hi, my cholesterol is normal, When you have great results and eat well, your blood will show how well you are eating on Keto. One thing I would recommend when you are starting keto, is to download an app onto your phone so you can track you food intake. As well you might want to buy either pee strips, or get the blood monitor kits to track your Ketone levels in your blood. Another thing I will say is that flour today is GMO, I don't want to eat that stuff, if it is organic I will eat on occasions, but not much of it. Whole foods are important Keto and non GMO is what I look for.
@@imhassane Tell me why is the Underwriters for Life insurance endorsing KETO if has the potential to cause heart disease. My HDL is high, which is a good thing. Triglycerides go down and LDL's go up, but that is ok, as the HDL's override the LDL's is my understanding. my family history and genitics tells me that long life is expected with these kind of results. my grandmother died at 100, dad 94, mom is alive and well at 94. A few years ago, I read a study about a town in Italy where everyone lived over 100 and functioned well. There cholesterols levels super high. There HDL's were high, LDL's were high, but Triglycerides were low. Not sure how it absolutely works, but my family has that problem, which is a good one. thanks for making me dig into this a little more.
My legs actually changed color when I was on this diet and I had really bad breath. I also gained everything and more back. Now that I am a high Carb vegan I feel really good.
The bad breath comes from ketones not used because your body hanst yet gotten used to burning them for fuel... it goes away as soon as the body starts effectively burning fat. Getting a ketogenic right takes time and the more your body has been f****d up by carb overload (more carbs than needed) the longer it takes for the body to get used to.
Theory: And very few people will never get used to it since they have a gene mas that would have been eradicated by natural selection... they simply wouldn't have survived. It is most likely one of the reasons why infants were not counted a human beings before they were 3 years of age to not get emotionally attached to them... the weak simply didn't survive ;)
My mouth always tasted terrible until I went vegan. Its crazy how much it changed. Its crazy how much all kinds of subtle yet obvious health markers got better. Keep it up! :)
Same for me when i went low carb high fat/paleo ;)
If your legs changed color you were doing it wrong. Bad breath is normal. Of course you gained weight back. Stop eating vegan and see how much weight you gain. Any eating plan you stick to causes weight loss and as soon as you deviate you gain weight. Keto is no exception.
Jack Mcnasty I was doing it right, it was a program for overweight people supervised by a doctor. I also gained it back because the program ended, even though I stuck to the diet. Might have done something wrong, I don't know. But it was the worst diet I have ever been on, never felt so bad.
I went vegan for ethical reasons so going back is never an option.
So many dislikes, wow! Keto folks must really not like what the studies show :)
The studies that sponsored by junk food makers
The first study that I found was not funded by RefinedCarbs™ :) onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1365-2796.2007.01774.x
Keto is trash diet. Mediterranean diet is the best
@@michellewilcox7175 Thanks, hope you have wonderful health and life too! I've often heard doctors explaining exactly the same thing and why it happens - because if you ate many processed, sugary, white flour etc. foods before and you eliminate them, your diet becomes healthier and you will most likely feel better. Even without the scientific results, I simply find such diet very unnatural thing to do. We've never done that throughout our history except in the recent couple of decades. Things like rice, potatoes, wheat have always been eaten all around the world for centuries, it's the main, staple food. People were not overweight, diabetic, prone to heart attacks, etc. until recent years, so these foods are clearly not the cause. And they are very cheap. We are very creative nowadays, trying to invent something new and hoping it would work better. For example, juicing, protein powders, drinking urine, all-meat diet - all kinds of weird ideas that nobody has ever done before. And for most of these new food types and diets, it's already proven that it's not good for our health in general. Why not just eat real food that grows out of the ground. That's what we've been mostly eating for millions of years.
Dirty keto maybe. I've been vegan keto , loads of veg and fat. None of these problems yet after 7 years. Keep the glucose levels down to stay out of acidosis
your voice would sound better if you spoke out of your chest instead of your throat
No Gluten All Vegan I talk in a higher pitch than normal when I am explaining things. I believe it's because higher pitch talking increases learning which is why mothers have high voices, so their children can learn. Yeah it would sound more manly and less annoying, but many points would be lost I believe.
"higher pitch talking increases learning which is why mothers have high voices" - yes but it works for babies :) I guess the majority of your viewers/followers are not babies anymore :)
In my opinion, higher pitch sounds less credible. It's like a small dog barking loudly at a Rottweiler... :) I would also suggest speaking a little bit slower. Brain needs pauses for processing what we hear. I guess you know 80/10/10 In London - I don't recomend you changing your accent to British, but... :)
BTW - I really like what you do in your videos - great job.
Mic. the Vegan love your reasoning lol people complain about my voice too 😂oh well. it's the information that matters! Another great video to add to my must watch list! Thank you 💕
Glial Cell Culture says the low carber.
so what does your real voice sound like?
Vegan keto + intermediate fasting = god mode
Dudefromspace567 How long can that be sustained? Is it a tool for bodybuilding competition prep? I'm very interested.
Keto is keto, vegan or raw vegan, its not good. Short term one feels good because fat helps mask inflammation, eventually the liver and kidneys will shut down and then you will be asking god to save you with prayers.
+WizardofRaw how about you google ketones and inflammation and look at the studies that pop up?
"Our findings suggest that the anti-inflammatory effects of caloric restriction or ketogenic diets may be linked to BHB-mediated inhibition of the NLRP3 inflammasome."
anti inflammatory is the opposite of inflammation...
The problem with many of the studies I have seen on keto diet, especially that trials, are they feed such terrible food. When I switched my household over to keto we now drink veggies smoothies with yeast and wheat grass juice powder. We eat lots of veggies, cut out all the processes food and snack way way less. We are all feeling healthier, losing weight and getting more vitamins and minerals then ever before. Many of the side effects listed on the list in the beginning are things that happen on any poor diet. You can be vegan or vegetarian and still eat terrible because animal products are not the source ow what is bad in food. You can eat a version of keto and feel like crap if you don't eat veggies to get the vitamins and minerals you need.
Neither diet is bad but I found keto had advantages when it came to sustainability in our house and it helps with ADHD in the household.
So I wanna share my personal experience of a ketogenic diet here. So on to the numbers first: Over a period of 1 year I lost about 35 kg of total weight, whereas i brought my bodyfat from over 25% to around 14,5% right now. I also gained 3 kg of muscle mass during that time. (I regularly had my bodyfat/musclemass/bodywater tested in the university sports institute)
I cut sugars/grains/dairy/'bad fats'/alcohol/soy from my diet and replaced them with starchy vegetables, nuts, olive/coconut oil and coconut milk. Also i eat a shitton of vegetables, because that's what you do on a ketogenic diet. (Not just meat and fat)
Overall my body became lean and fit. I have more energy and my libido also was enhanced. I became less depressed and my skin got way better.
I am very happy with the ketogenic lifestyle so far, but now a little worried. I now want to get my blood levels tested.
If you feel better than you have for a long time then I wouldn't let anyones rethoric deter you from what you are doing, be it the Keto Camp or the Vegan. The one thing that is missing from all of the Vegan / Keto discussions is the part that your individual Heritage and migration of your ancestral Paternal and Maternal Haplogroups play. I come from a family laden with Autoimmune disfunction and all of them have improved dramatically on the Ketogenic Diet - one of my sisters continues to eat Vegan on medical advice and is now looking down the barrel of a liver transplant (having been very active her whole life, not drank or abused her body whatsoever - only 37). I reviewed our Haplogroups, discovered we have 20000 years of Heritage on the British Isles, primarily Ireland. What was available year 'round to eat here? Cold weather vegetables, small amount of edible root weeds (dandelion for example) certain perrenial plants and berry bushes, meat and fish. I don't think eating 2lbs of steak every day is the way to go by any stretch as historically none of ancestors would have turned up food that was readily available, be it plant of animal based. Just keep going with what makes you feel good, occassionally come out of ketosis for periods to improve your metabolic flexibility (think seasonal eating of fruit for example) and enjoy your life. The medical industry is turning on to value of nutrition and I suspect the standard advice will cange in the future regarding the role of Cholesterol relative to heart disease
So how were your bloods???
I'm curious to know your opinion on vegan ketogenic diets. I couldn't find much info in my searches on this topic, likely because it's extremely rare, however would be interesting to see a head to head comparison of vegan vs non-vegan ketogenic dieters.
youtuber Ruth May have a great content about vegan keto
I'm curious about that too.
I have been vegan since 1982 .I 2010 I tried living on almonds and greens and fruit for One year .Eating mainly organic almonds and turnip greens for a year. I averaged 5/8 Lbs ( 283g) of oraganic almonds per day .I was moving , remodeling a house and farming and I did not have time to cook so I just ate the almonds and salads
after 1 year I suffered a heart attack . I did not get a stint .I knew it was form eating FAT .I gave up al;l fat except a spoonful of flax seed per day . And within a year I had no more heart pain and have never had any heart trouble ever since.
I've been doing it for 4 years myself and reversed heart disease and type 2 diabetes with it. Lost 102 pounds as well and now finally turning into a fitness enthusiast. Literally saved my life.
My doctor told me it would do me in. So did many friends. Turned out this was all second hand information with no experience.. which gets spread by people like this guy.
Too bad vegans are still on a mission against keto and spreading misinformation like this, using cherry picked research papers with faulty studies and parameters. Improving the world's health is clearly not their number one priority.
@Jamie Rivet correct the video is total bullshit.
The Inuit tribe literally has a gene mutation now that stops them from going into ketosis because IT IS NOT HEALTHY. Just because you weren’t healthy before doesn’t mean your keto diet is healthy. Dropping packaged foods helps but everything your listing comes along with fat loss so your anecdotal experience means nothing. Just proves that science is correct that fat loss will make your Heath better. Continued keto diet is not healthy at sll
Science says a whole food PLANT based diet is the healthiest in the world so get your facts straight. You don’t know anything about science and speak as if your personal experience means anything when you were COMPLETELY UNHEALTHY before. What a joke
You know what, anything that works out for you is great. There are two sides to everything, and nothing can be relied on blindly.
And also, you didn’t reverse heart disease. Do you have scans of your arteries that show this? Just because a marker is lower doesn’t mean it reversed. You’re not understanding what reversal means. Build up in the arteries may have slowed down because of your weight loss it that does not mean it was reversed whatsoever
This guy is so misleading. The symptoms he’s referring to is “ketoacidos” NOT ketosis. Ketoacidosis arises from uncontrolled diabetes
Which symptoms are you referring to? All the symptoms listed by Paleo Mom seem to be for ketosis.
For the others I didn't go through all the studies to check so I thought I'd ask.
All the symptoms listed are from studies done on kids undergoing ketosis. Probably for treating their epilepsy. Ketoacidosis is a medical emergency. U won't get stunted growth from it. U will get immediate death
I have seen vegans with high cholesterol. Carbs can also convert to cholesterol.
I don't understand the hate. Personally I eat paleo but I have some coworkers who eat vegan and we get along fine.
The culprit isn't animal products! It's the shitty processed food including factory farming. Veganism is a noble pursuit in terms of boycotting a terrible industry. But spreading lies about other diets is pushing us further from the real culprit! The massive, billion dollar corporations that do factory farming and make twinkies.
Paleo, vegan, keto, we are all alike in we see the damage and health problems that come from the typical American diet. It's so stupid that we throw hate at each other. Humans evolved eating animals. This is a fact. But I respect the decision not to.
If we came together we could work together to end terrible dietary guidelines in schools, end factory farming, boycott processed foods and all create a healthier world for us and the future generations. But I guess our pride about our diets is more important
Ben D agreed I actually think that the vegans and the low-carb diet people can come together on a few things. One of them being the overly produced meat and the overly processed carbs and sugar. Also the keto diet done properly does advocate healthy whole vegetables. While it might not be ideal for the vegan community I think it's a step forward though we can all make together.
Yeah man our egos are getting in the way of us making real progress but since hating each other feels good we would rather do that. All of these diets have much more in common than we admit
I agree with you. It's pointless to say it's keto vs. vegan when a) you can be a keto vegan, and b) vegan isn't a diet.
The animal rights and environmental issues are what continue to keep vegans separate from most others. I'm not into throwing hate around, but I can't personally advocate for a diet that contributes to something I find morally objectionable or environmentally unsustainable (someone might find grass-fed beef less cruel, but the planet can't support a growing appetite for it. 91% of rainforest destruction is already due to animal agriculture).
No hate here, though. I agree with most of what you said.
Amen Hannah!
Eating a meat and fat heavy diet with plenty of veggies, claiming that your body thinks it's "starving to death" is absolutely absurd. Pure ignorance.
The vegetables are what makes keto healthy. If you tried to eat nothing but animal foods you'd die. That means vegetables -> healthy , animal foods -> not healthy.
That's observably false. There are a growing number of people that actually eat a meat-only diet, and they're healthy and thriving
The mental gymnastics at play there is astounding. Gold medal winning. Vegetables are good, but that doesn't make animal foods unhealthy.
Sure, but almost all the scientific literature shows that the less animal products you eat, the better are your chance of being healthy and preventing or reducing the risks for a number of disease, like heart disease, diabetes, strokes, etc.
"Almost all the scientific literature" - That's not even CLOSE to being true. Such a broad, unbacked generalization. Humans have evolved over thousands of years to eat animals. New research on keto and IF is showing that CARBS and non-fasted diet habits are the cause of systemic disease in modern humans. We weren't meant to eat processed foods all day long. Our bodies are literally evolved to chase animals down (look up persistence hunting) and we are extremely efficient at digesting and absorbing nutrients from animal products. Grains are not what we are meant to eat, and yes, that extends to some extent to factory raised animals that are fed mostly corn and other grains, and don't get all the vitamins they normally would from a grass diet.
There's a reason we have a gall bladder, just like every other carnivore on the planet. Herbivores don't have gall bladders, because they exist specifically to break down and process animal fat.
I'm vegan and have been on a ketogenic diet for over three months. I am also on one meal a day. I have lost 13kg, I have more energy than EVER before, I am a nurse and used to be tired all the time. I have no cravings and no dark circles under my eyes. I am not starving myself and have suffered no adverse effects. Whatever I eat, I make sure no animal has suffered or died, and I make sure I am getting all the nutrients I need. Vegan ketosis and intermittent fasting has changed my life for the better.
what he points out at 13:04. "Low-carbohydrate diets were associated with a significantly higher risk of all-cause mortality and they were not
significantly associated with a risk of CVD mortality and incidence. However, this analysis is based on limited observational
studies and large-scale trials on the complex interactions between low-carbohydrate diets and long-term outcomes are
needed."
Observation studies...
no shit, just like basically all evidence for pharmaceuticals and the only "evidence" for masks "slowing the spread". At least he told you they were observational and wants more in depth studies to be done.
I tried keto and found it way to stressful to keep track of absolutely everything I eat. Just have a balanced diet... eat healthy, have “cheat days”, workout at least 3-4 times a week and give the body a break with some light fasting and remember stay hydrated:)
you dont need to be "hydrated" like that on keto, you need salt, hydratation are a must on high sugar diets, too much water on keto make you loose minerals.
@@polentusmax6100let them be fooled in their ignorance and own cognivitve dissonance about not being discipline enough and let them woke people be woke and shine through their life ❤️
I’ve been on keto for a while, and I’ve seen fat loss and muscle gain as well as mental clarity.
My grandfather has also been on this to help with his Alzheimer’s, and his mental state has been steadily improving!
Yes, there are some benefits when your talking about alzheimers and epilepsy etc...but when you talk about eating a healthy diet to maintain a healthy weight and live a healthy life limiting meats and fats are scientifically proven. Your diet should be mainly fruits, veggies, and healthy grains.
It's working great of me, my wife, several family members and even more co workers and their families. I do think there are some pitfalls you have to avoid but eating green vegetables, meat, good oils and no sugar is working out good. He keeps saying you are starving yourself, I eat just as much now as I did befor. And at first I was less hungry but for me at least my appetite is the same as it was befor. But now I'm losing weight every month instead of gaining. I don't plan on eating like this forever. Just an means to an end.
@@staceystrukel1917 Where would find an abundance of fruits, veggies, and edible grains in abundance just growing in the forest? It's crazy to think that these genetically produced fruits and veggies are now considered a requirement by some in human health. Humans didn't evolve eating an abundance of carbs and carbs are not vital nutrients you need to live. But you do need fat to live and unlike edible produce, meat exists everywhere, in every environment, at all times. Which is why we've been eating it since 2.5 million years ago until today.
@@BlankestKnight You are completely right, so many of these Vegan channels are completely biased. You can have a proper Keto diet and still be very healthy, it's not something that should be done long term but we are biologically made to go through moments of eating more meat during off seasons and same goes for plant based foods. We should also be doing intermittent fasting as food was not always so readily available.
Funny thing is I have done Keto 8 months and have reversed my hypoglycemia, fatty liver, high blood pressure, lowered my cholesterol and lost loads of weight.
A high carb vegan diet before that made me fatter and sicker.....but I may have done it wrong and plus being really overweight at the time I could have been more insulin sensitive.
i have been dead 4 years and i dont even know that
All I know is I've tried every kind of diet in the last 20 years, keto diet for 5 month and I'm in the best health of my life
This is the anthem of someone who is obese and discovers keto, you could not control your weight on any other diet, you're doing every other diet wrong.
Kaisa Jude what the fuck are you?
Keto is a short term weight loss tool. But it's a long term artery clogger and brain fogger.
And it's quite garbage for endurance athletes. Tour de France and marathon winners aren't participating in those events on spinach, avacados, and steaks alone. They are eating fruits, veggies, and topping off with rocket fuel, i.e. loads of carbohydrates.
I'd suggest using intermittent fasting on a vegan or near vegan diet. You'll get the benefits of some ketosis to stimulate mitochondrial efficiency while keeping your heart, veins/arteries, and brain topped off and healthy.
have you seen someone die of cancer kaisa? someone should smack you right in the fucking face woman!!
Mike LoL, so if one diet works and others don’t it’s the fault of the overweight person? If one diet works and others don’t it means one diet works and others don’t. Keto works because it stabilizes blood glucose and insulin levels. People are overweight and obese because of hyperinsulinemia, which is the result of a high carb diet that elevates blood sugar and insulin.
Your eyes, your shirt, the background, perfectly colour coded.
In Chinese medicine, the area around the eyes represents kidney health. So dark circles there are a strong sign the kidneys are not functioning properly.
Keto for 4 years now, off all medications for high blood pressure and high cholesterol. Feel amazing massive amounts of energy and brain function.
Thanks Mick, I think you've done a superb job here of researching and balancing the keto hype. When a diet says not to eat fruit and root veggies then you know its BS.
it doesn't say not to eat fruit. it says in moderate amount. the same with root veggies.
because of too much sugar in the fruits that mess up your insulin, and creates a fatty liver.
How many fruits were tour ancestors eating in Ireland? I'll give you a tip - very few!
Low blood sugar is real. I have a friend who lost 100 lbs on a ketogenic diet, but then nearly passed out during exercise -
repeatedly - and had to "cheat" and eat carbs. It is not sustainable long-term.
Of course it's not sustainable.
Then he did keto wrong. Keto includes lots of veggies, greens, moderate protein and healthy fats, like coconut oil and avocado. Passing out happens when you don't take in enough electrolytes and sodium. This is common knowledge for ketonians. Also, I've been doing low carb for a decade and keto for a year and a half. Most of the people doing keto, go keto for life. It is absolutely sustainable long term.
No... keto doesn't include 'lots' of veggies...it legit is a starvation diet.
takfreak11.
It does. Potassium from leafy greens is a requirement.
If it is done correctly it does. All the BS he is spouting in the video is from people doing it wrong. I eat 10 cups of spinach everyday.
I'm 50 since on keto got a regular period back. Dont miss carbs. And I cook rice for my family every day. My cholesterol is perfect and my blood sugar. With more energy than most people at the gym. I will recommend it to everyone. And I lost 30 pounds in 2 month. And have more energy than ever. And I do eat a lot.
me personally, i never understood the point of all these weight loss diets that arent even sustainable long term. Eat a balanced whole food diet (animal products are optional) from all the food groups that you can tolerate and watch how many calories you consume. Weight loss is calories in, calories out. All these restrictive diets for weight loss make no sense and its just full of people who want a quick results without the hard work.
I have been a vegetarian since 89 and have been 50-80 pounds overweight for all those years. After switching to a keto-vegetarian diet, I am finally able to lose weight. My main problem is that I love food and have a tendency to over eat. Keto has comepletely removed that tendency.
If you had been eating a whole food plant based diet without dairy and processed crap I promise you, you would NOT have been overweight. Have a look at Chef AJ for some great whole food plant recipes and meal preparation ideas that will fit in with whatever plant-based diet you want to follow. :)
I can only speak to the wonderful results my wife and I have encountered with a low-carb (20-50 grams fat per day, not ketogenic) manner of eating. My wife reversed pre-diabetes and related skin, arthritis, and breathing difficulties, and lost significant weight. My short eight-week low carb adventure resulted in weight loss, vascular improvements in my mild edema-prone left leg, and significant improvements in mental clarity. I have maintained my fat adaptation and take bike rides of 50-100 miles with only water and no carbs and that is starting in the morning fully fasted. All of these benefits require that you give up most of the junk you have been mistakenly calling food. Removal of junk food can be a deal breaker for some.
Did she reverse it or just avoid triggering it with carbs? I am sure it's the latter.
"reversal' is the most bs term made up by Vista Health
"We consider diabetes reversed when someone achieves an A1c below 6.5%, without requiring diabetes medications other than metformin. Metformin is excluded from reversal criteria because it is not diabetes-specific-many patients choose to stay on this medication for reasons other than blood sugar control"
"other than metformin" lol
I knew it's bad but this is so hilarious
anyway It's a bandaid at best
true reversal has only been showed by a caloric deficit diet and continue with low fat plant based diet
Hypoglycemia is not caused by the Ketogenic diet, cardiomyopathy is not an enlarged heart it’s enlarged muscles of the heart like the atrium and septum, the heart it self doesn’t get larger. Protein doesn’t thin your hair it helps it grow.
I did keto 5 years ago, it was so mentally difficult but I managed to lose about 20 pounds in 5 months that I quickly gained back because I couldn’t sustain it.
I went WFPB vegan just over a year ago and have easily lost all 70 extra pounds I was carrying, I feel amazing and eat large satisfying meals. My sister continues to struggle on keto (losing/cheating/gaining) despite seeing my easy success as a vegan. Hopefully she’ll come around before any major health problems arise!