So I looked through Undertale's art book... and Holy Shit

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  • so I decided to look over Undertale's art book to see if there was anything interesting that I could find and theorize about. and I found a LOT to theorize about.
    I mostly cover Undertale stuff in this but there is a fair amount of Deltarune stuff in the video too so you will want to stick around.
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    and consider commenting if you have any thoughts you want to share down below. have a nice day.
    :)

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  • @OverKillYouTube
    @OverKillYouTube ปีที่แล้ว +229

    actually the planet buster is a weapon from the brandish series, which toby is a fan of

    • @theorycrafter300
      @theorycrafter300  ปีที่แล้ว +37

      oh yeah i just looked it and your 100% right Toby mentioned brandish below the image and I just thought it was the name of an anime or something since I've never herd of it. thanks for pointing that out.

    • @henryentertainmentsystem9923
      @henryentertainmentsystem9923 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Also, Varik in the Earthbound Halloween Hack is from Brandish

    • @AnimationJ
      @AnimationJ ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi overkill

    • @lolmeowajarchive
      @lolmeowajarchive ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey there over kill

  • @godslaughter
    @godslaughter ปีที่แล้ว +185

    Knowing that Toby has been thinking of creating Deltarune (or a story based on the ending he dreamed of) before Undertale, and Undertale was meant to be a prototype to test his skills, I am very convinced by the scrapped Ice Cave model. It's very possible that the Angel may have gone through some form of design change in the meantime, but it's likely we'll be able to look at this in the future by the time the entirety of Deltarune will have been released, and we might be able to see patterns in this that hint at the plot that we can't now. Looking forward to it. Overall, this whole cave art on its own looks like a prototype for what we would have nowadays. That definitely has some form of connection to the story of the "DELTA RUNE", I'm pretty sure the iconography is on point.

    • @theorycrafter300
      @theorycrafter300  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      yeah I 100% agree

    • @gaminggamesgamergaming2970
      @gaminggamesgamergaming2970 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      And wait yea holy shit remember during the spamton sweepstakes there was a part where Noelle brought up that she was playing a game and found an ice palace, but it had a whole maze and a door that couldn't be opened and along with that the hidden page that had showed said ice palace maze?? I think this could tie into the whole ice cave concept art very well, I think that's very well what toby is trying to lead up to and hinting towards, like just with the amount of importance it seems to hold it feels very certain that's what it's meant to be and I think it could tie very well into the lore in the future in some way, it definitely has some sort of big connection we're unaware of right now, there's no way it doesn't along with the fact that the concept art of the ice cave showing that it has a very clear connection to the angel, which Noelle is *very* heavily implied to be said angel. probably one of the very late chapters I'd assume there will be some sort of ice cave in one of the dark worlds which would be fuckin awesome

  • @stashclub3768
    @stashclub3768 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    Something interesting is that the savepoint in Undertale is basically a star, which makes sense since Frisk is a human from the surface

    • @theorycrafter300
      @theorycrafter300  ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Yeah in Deltarune and Undertale the save points are both stars! i think its pretty interesting I wonder if it means anything greater. it probably wont but who knows.

    • @kodawanberg6887
      @kodawanberg6887 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Which means the Titans also symbolize the Surface/Light World!

    • @user-file-x-life
      @user-file-x-life ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@kodawanberg6887
      Actually yes
      I had a theory that says that the titans are people who clean the rooms that has the dark world
      You know that there is a theory thats says that the dark worlds are imagintions?
      So, this means that the darkners are some things like toys or cards, you know stuff like that
      So, the titans can be the people who pick up and clean the stuff pr the toys (darkners)
      *BUT HEEEEEEEEY!!!! THATS JUST A THEOR-*

    • @kodawanberg6887
      @kodawanberg6887 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      -Y!

  • @kanonwilliams9497
    @kanonwilliams9497 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Two things I'd like to point out. One: notice how the picture of the angel on the wall has antlers. Two: the dreemurs were supposed to be dragons, which is probably why that one sprite of toriel was so reptilian looking.

    • @Kyumifun
      @Kyumifun ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was about to comment about the angel's antlers

    • @ThunderCube3888
      @ThunderCube3888 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      why does the angel have antlers? is it trans?

    • @sillypinkmoth
      @sillypinkmoth 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ThunderCube3888 ya

  • @Solesteam
    @Solesteam ปีที่แล้ว +50

    8:48 I think Yellow was a placeholder colour and it was originally going to shift colours...
    Or have that epic visual effect his wings have.

    • @theorycrafter300
      @theorycrafter300  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      hey that's an interesting concept the the asriel above all the rest of them did have a rainbow heart and wings. maybe they were meant to shift colors like you said or maybe shift on there attack or something? that would be cool

  • @Missingno_Miner
    @Missingno_Miner ปีที่แล้ว +56

    3:35 IIRC the room is called "Room_hapstablook" in the files. Which was probably MTTs name prior to getting his body. Further reinforcing that assumption is that it's similar to, but not quite the same as, Papyrus' "headcanon" name, "Happstablook, the happy ghost", which Undyne describes as wrong. Turns out, Papyrus' logic was wrong but he still lucked his way into being almost right.
    4:35 Yeah, Toby has also confirmed elsewhere that Heartache was originally made for the same game and was originally called Joker Battle, meaning it might have originally been Jevil's battle theme. Thankfully, he used it for Undertale, TWR fits Jevil way better.
    7:20 It's probably the way the eyes are drawn, makes it look almost like he has glasses.
    9:50 ...Wait, people didn't already realize that Asriel and Chara were the two versions of the Angel? Frisk was only ever the one who guided said Angel to do the thing, a harbinger of sorts, not the one who did the deed. Asriel broke the barrier, he's the more optimistic, "monsters return to the surface" version of the angel. Chara put the world out of its misery, they're the morbid, "angel of death" version of the angel. While they both decided to do these things because of what they learned from Frisk, both of them decided to do it entirely on their own. As far as I knew, this was already considered fact, and it's pretty clearly the intended interpretation.
    13:03 KRIS!!! I FINALLY DID IT!!! I FINALLY MADE IT TO [[Heaven]]!!
    17:09 I wanna point out that the astronomy-themed mobile may have been repurposed into the star stickers all over the wall on Asriel's side of the room in Deltarune.

    • @rafsandomierz5313
      @rafsandomierz5313 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep also Gerson confirms that in his shop dialaouge about Deltarune symbol.

    • @N95j
      @N95j ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The part about Asriel and Chara both being the Angel is so smart! I never realized that until now.. but it makes so much sense!

    • @torchdreemurr4082
      @torchdreemurr4082 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i read the room being named hapstablook as a way for his "ghost" name to not be revealed. its a metaphor for his deadname thats not something that really should be revealed lol

    • @Missingno_Miner
      @Missingno_Miner 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@torchdreemurr4082 And this is what we call "mental gymnastics." If that was the intent, the room would be named "happstablook", the name explictly described in-game as being incorrect, as opposed to something merely similar that sets up the obvious joke of Papyrus being almost correct for the entirely wrong reasons.
      While it's true that revealing a trans person's dead name without permission is kinda not cool, it's questionable whether Mettaton is intended to be literally trans or just an analogy, and entirely unknown how he feels about his former name beyond that he doesn't use it anymore. Some trans people are quite open about their deadnames.

  • @uhhumm-l6o
    @uhhumm-l6o ปีที่แล้ว +33

    12:37 while that is interesting, the actual designs for those Deltarune characters were made by a different artist, not Toby. But I do agree that maybe the sun and moon concepts influenced their designs.

    • @theorycrafter300
      @theorycrafter300  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      yeah there not exactly the same but I think they where defiantly at least inspired my them.

  • @MadHymek323
    @MadHymek323 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    * I think something else supporting the character being "Kris" originally is, look at the HP and EN things under Ness' name. That's literally the EXACT colours of Kris' shirt.

    • @theorycrafter300
      @theorycrafter300  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      oh yeah it is lol. I don't think its strong evidence but defiantly something of note!

  • @grayusername
    @grayusername ปีที่แล้ว +21

    8:13 The line “an angel gets its wings” is a reference to the Christmas movie ‘It’s a Wonderful Life’. The original line was “Every time a bell rings an angel gets its wings”. It probably doesn’t have that much significance in my opinion, I think Toby was just making a joke lol.

    • @theorycrafter300
      @theorycrafter300  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yeah i agree that it was probably just a joke lol. but I didn't know the line was from 'its a wonderful life' cool.

    • @duckling3615
      @duckling3615 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The joke was about him wanting to murder all people saying boss Asriel is hot. He added the angel with wings because that's lietrally Asriel. So in a way he just said that when some says Asriel is hot, Asriel will come and murder them.

  • @meloncholicc
    @meloncholicc ปีที่แล้ว +14

    im pretty sure toby had the idea for deltarune before undertale, but he made undertale to test if he could make deltarune

    • @theorycrafter300
      @theorycrafter300  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      yeah I believe he said somewhere that he originally had the idea for deltarune before Undertale but they only made one room before they quit and moved onto Undertale.

  • @Absoli3210
    @Absoli3210 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    About 9:21 if you look closely to Asriel’s final form you can see that he actually looks a lot like the Deltarune emblem, so I guess this is actually the intension, that he is in fact the angel from the prophecy.

  • @redactedthesaurus
    @redactedthesaurus ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I think the reason you may have put Sans poker is because the concept was reused in the Xbox version of UT

    • @theorycrafter300
      @theorycrafter300  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      oh yeah that's right lol. and in the ps4 version there's also the dog shrine too. but tbh I probably just put it there because haha funny. lol.

  • @Emperor_Creeper
    @Emperor_Creeper ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Black box: Exists
    Every theorist in existantance: *GASTER???*

  • @NkN-
    @NkN- ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Let's just casually not talk about that cube, yes, let us carry on.

  • @EvanYTLife
    @EvanYTLife 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    1:20 if you (somehow) skip the name screen you will get “CHARA”
    In the fangamer/gametest7 demo (which is most likely when this was taken) there was no naming screen so they played as CHARA through the play through

  • @Solesteam
    @Solesteam ปีที่แล้ว +11

    6:02 Perhaps pink attacks which more clearly differentiated what you can interact with and what you can't, similar to how blue attacks were repurposed in Deltarunes spamton fight, that, but it also works with other Soul gimmicks.
    Basically a much more clear and obvious indicator than light blue used in spamton and Undyne that doesn't conflict with snowdin's lessons

  • @XXX-st9be
    @XXX-st9be ปีที่แล้ว +100

    2:47 In deltarune's files theres an enemy (obj_placeholderenemy) which uses Rudinn's sprites, it serves an unused placeholder for testing. However, If you modify the code this enemy will be named as ECHIDNA with the following battle message:
    * You've come again to this wonderful place.
    * Now tear off the mask beneath your face!
    In greek mythology, Echidna is a gigantic snake-like monster acknowledged as "The Mother of Monsters". It might mean something or maybe not, still an interesting detail nonetheless.

    • @theorycrafter300
      @theorycrafter300  ปีที่แล้ว +15

      oh yeah I remember hearing that form a video but I completely forgot about it yeah, you could be 100% right about that. that would be cool

    • @commenteroftruth9790
      @commenteroftruth9790 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      that does seem relevant to the old art of the deltarune. that seems like the most important piece of lore in this book.

    • @HeyaItsmK5103
      @HeyaItsmK5103 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I'm sorry but everytime i hear echidna i just think of knuckles

    • @theorycrafter300
      @theorycrafter300  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@HeyaItsmK5103 lol

    • @SurmenianSoldier
      @SurmenianSoldier ปีที่แล้ว +10

      i just think it's a cool placeholder name, toby loves having interesting placeholders such as the interactablesolid placeholder: "* Suddenly, your body freezes up. What are you looking at?" i think that one's pretty clever, since it plays on the fact that you can't move while a dialogue box is present

  • @-Core-
    @-Core- ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just realized the tubes on Omega Flowey represents his petals

  • @TheAdvertisement
    @TheAdvertisement ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I really need to order this artbook there is so much untapped potential here.

    • @theorycrafter300
      @theorycrafter300  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I mostly went over the stuff that I found interesting. but I'm sure there's probably a lot of other things other people can find and theorize about.

  • @FranceAndorraGuyana
    @FranceAndorraGuyana ปีที่แล้ว +12

    6:18 I don't think that would be the case with the pink soul, but the orange one based on the orange/blue attacks. If it were similar to the Purple soul, I think it'd be something like having 9 dots and instantly going from one to another when pressing an arrow key with the attacks popping up from the ground (similar to the Memoryhead attacks).

    • @theorycrafter300
      @theorycrafter300  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah that is a lot more closer to the purple attack's to that's a good idea.

    • @MadHymek323
      @MadHymek323 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      * No, I think that's more how the light blue SOUL would have worked (note that we never get a light blue or orange SOUL mode, just light blue and orange attacks)
      * Light Blue would likely be the one to have boxes you jump to, akin to Mad Mew Mew's fight that uses half of the light blue SOUL anyway, and then Orange would be the one where you just keep moving if you hit an arrow key
      * Also, I doubt pink and purple need to have any correlation, because light and dark blue SOUL modes have no real correlation (if anything its light blue and orange that correlate, and they're opposites on the colour spectrum)

    • @ItemlabelOtto
      @ItemlabelOtto 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Moving around a grid? That just sounds like battle network

  • @tornadix99
    @tornadix99 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    13:12 if there is spamton these characters maybe will be in deltarune.
    Which makes me think this G shaped thing on the right corner is Gaster or someone related to gaster, or the one that in undertale said "hello i can speak to G" then the wrong number song plays.
    Pheraps in a dark world in toriel's classroom or this next chapter in toriel's home, toriel as a teacher might have alphabetical letters arround and this is a new darkner enemy pheraps?
    It also has 3 arms in a way that might be similar to [REDACTED] perhaps too? idk.

    • @theorycrafter300
      @theorycrafter300  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yeah I defiantly agree that its likely that more characters will be inspired by this art book. and about the G guy yeah he does kind of look like some like goner or one of gasters followers doesn't it

  • @halfwits9064
    @halfwits9064 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is good stuff, even if your brain is rotting away

  • @SpectreCafe98
    @SpectreCafe98 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Ah, deltarune theorizers have finally reached the brainrot levels of peak undertale theories. Sometimes things just, dont mean anything, yk?

    • @theorycrafter300
      @theorycrafter300  ปีที่แล้ว +12

      yeah but its fun to theorize plus who knows it might turn out to be right!

  • @riorior1o
    @riorior1o ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Imagine, If the artbook leaked secret bosses or knight from next chapters, but we don't know about it

    • @theorycrafter300
      @theorycrafter300  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yeah that was kind of why I even made this video for originally. I thought there probably wasn't anything too big since this came out a few years ago but i was pretty surprised on the amount of stuff in this.

  • @Jerotero
    @Jerotero 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    2:31 I just noticed this in Deltarune(the game) the prophecy Ralsai recites says that 3 heros will appear at the worlds edge(3 triangles at the bottom of the symbol) in order to banish the angels heaven (angel shown at the top of the symbol)

  • @mrblakeboy1420
    @mrblakeboy1420 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the angel looks an awful lot like it has horns(dess?), but also like it has bird feet

    • @kluk8284
      @kluk8284 ปีที่แล้ว

      Birdly???

  • @misshooman
    @misshooman ปีที่แล้ว +2

    4:25 “looked at some old designs to inspire him for the design of susie”
    susie and the fun gang were designed wayyy before undertale was made

    • @theorycrafter300
      @theorycrafter300  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh where they? I've seen some concept of Susie and Ralsei but I didn't know that they where made before Undertale!

    • @kirillassasin
      @kirillassasin หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@theorycrafter300fan gang existed already in 2012, dialogue at least, but we still dont know original characters design from that year, maybe Toby will release eventually

  • @phylogeist6856
    @phylogeist6856 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Okay so for the deltarune symbol, i actually see it as two humans, a monster and an angel (based on how the triangle are up and down). In undertale it could be seen as the two humans with the help of a monster, asriel, created/woke up/becamr an angel and saved everyone (i'm basing this only on the pasifist ending, and yes chara as a pretty important role to play in it too). For deltarune thought it's a bit harder to speculate what it means especially because they are so little actually story content available yet, but i would say the player and kris are going to play two diffirent roles at some point, and if i follow my logic kris and the player, along with another monster like noel, could be the once awaking an angel.

    • @theorycrafter300
      @theorycrafter300  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah an interesting theory. I've had my thoughts on if for a while but not enough to make a full theory on it. but its kind of hard to theorize about in my opinion because you not only trying to solve the meaning of it in 1 game but 2 which sure defiantly have a lot of similarity's but I feel like the "main concept" of the story is fairly different. but I believe there somewhat made to represent the same thing throughout both games, though maybe not the exact same I think there's a lot of evidence for the Deltarune in Deltarune representing the "delta warriors" but in Undertale its a little bit hard to say mainly because the "arrows" or triangles are kind of inconsistent in there order. sometimes only 2 of them are facing down and sometimes only one. and tbh toby fox isn't shy on referencing other video games so I think the Deltarune is defiantly a reference to the triforce from zelda.

  • @qwertious
    @qwertious ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What? I thought everyone believed that Asriel was the angel... they didn't?

    • @theorycrafter300
      @theorycrafter300  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought most people believe that frisk was the angel foretold in the prophecy.

    • @ireallyneedagoodname
      @ireallyneedagoodname ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theorycrafter300 Me believeing that it's the player because the prophecy can't decide, and players try to go for whatever- making them unpredictable:

  • @batz2323
    @batz2323 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the top left face at 7:28 reminds me of one of the ed edd and eddy protagonists. the spamton at 13:46 actually circulated on tumblr for a good amount of time - it was talked about and memed on

    • @theorycrafter300
      @theorycrafter300  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      oh really? I don't use Tumblr I mostly get most of my Undertale stuff from TH-cam and sometimes reddit but I'm not too active in the community. I don't know if anyone else has covered anything like this on TH-cam.

  • @4rsenicCatnap
    @4rsenicCatnap 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the ralsei lookin face at the omega flowey part looks like ralsei cus the eye outlines are thick

  • @sahilhossain8204
    @sahilhossain8204 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hmm yes your video about You looking through Undertale's art book shall be the idea that inspires a lot of people to make AUs like Underdemo And Protorune using the art book as ideas

  • @heehoo3685
    @heehoo3685 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i wonder if the sparkling design of the save points is supposed to be star like in nature, given the idea of the stars being representitive of the surface?

  • @kluk8284
    @kluk8284 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a smidge of evidence for your star theory. In the Spamton Q&A he talks about elemental pairs and mentions Dark/Star as a pair. Dark being the dark world and Star being...

    • @theorycrafter300
      @theorycrafter300  ปีที่แล้ว

      wow totally forgot about that! thanks for pointing that out, i was mostly covering Undertale Stuff in this video and I didn't even think about the Spamton sweepstakes dialogue. Nice

  • @syrka_who
    @syrka_who ปีที่แล้ว +2

    10:01
    Omg... it sounds so obvious....
    HOW CAN WE NEVER CONSIDER THIS???

    • @theorycrafter300
      @theorycrafter300  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      its my own little theory but I'm glad you like it. :)

    • @syrka_who
      @syrka_who ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@theorycrafter300 yeah
      I mean it sounds very canon

  • @kanebutler5345
    @kanebutler5345 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    14:07 to me they look waay more like top chef than a swatchling or swatch

  • @epik_gaming9824
    @epik_gaming9824 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Holy shit this is an underrated and very interesting video

  • @FlamingHatYT
    @FlamingHatYT ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I did some experimenting Theorycrafter, and the TTS I used pronounces Flowey almost correctly with this spelling "fwowey". Feel free to use it if you would like!

    • @theorycrafter300
      @theorycrafter300  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      its not 100% but its a lot closer. thank you so much. though I already have most of my audio for my next video done so I'm not going to redo it all. but ill try to keep it in mind for next video if there mentioned Thanks.

  • @tigerbear5845
    @tigerbear5845 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    9:20 Kind of always thought that Azzy was the "Angel" from the prophecy because you know, he literally turns into an angel in his boss fight

  • @marlowepup9863
    @marlowepup9863 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Chara" is short for Character 😅 that's what makes most sense

  • @fatimaalcaine2983
    @fatimaalcaine2983 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I loved this video, looking forward for more undertale/deltarune vids

  • @Tish793
    @Tish793 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mettiton is such an interesting character.

  • @szofika
    @szofika ปีที่แล้ว +2

    just subbed! i absolutely loved your video!

  • @dairygodmother9138
    @dairygodmother9138 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also the evil pottery from the queen’s castle in the spamton section.

  • @MintyIron21
    @MintyIron21 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always thought that chara was a placeholder for character, and he made chara the character after being inspired by the placeholder. but i know Toby

  • @captainphoton1693
    @captainphoton1693 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:48 also the angel has horns like the one on toriel's house in deltarune.

    • @qwertious
      @qwertious ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I kind of thought it looked like a reindeer's antlers, like Dess

  • @koxbalon
    @koxbalon ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i thought that asriel being angel was obvious
    also asriel as flowey did genocide so he also is angel of death and left undergound empty
    13:33 actually many people noticed
    14:22 actually idea of deltarune was before undertale
    15:24 SA-NESS??

  • @toastedtoast275
    @toastedtoast275 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    S P A M T O N GOT FUCKING REAL

  • @AdamVeloZ1223
    @AdamVeloZ1223 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    5:03 im pretty sure that sans does wear a poker hat in the xbox casino

  • @SBiKoolaide
    @SBiKoolaide 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    15:02 that definitely says frisk it’s just covered to avoid spoilers

  • @AcidSkelly49
    @AcidSkelly49 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Asriel and Raslei share the same letters I just noticed but idk if everyone knew this already…

  • @RichConnerGMN
    @RichConnerGMN ปีที่แล้ว

    ive seen people mention the spamton thing before lol, it was even on daily toby trivia iirc

  • @melodyMonger413
    @melodyMonger413 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    just found this video, but this is really well made and informative! ill def be checkin out some of your other content too

  • @omegasoup4164
    @omegasoup4164 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t mean this to be an insult but there’s something funny to me about the absolute rant you go on about with the Spamton bc I just don’t think it’s really that clear a connection to the point where it reminds me of people pointing at vaguely among us shaped things and saying “AMONG US!!!”
    Like, I do see it now that you mention it and I don’t think it’s unlikely that it’s a very early sketch of Spamton but idk maybe that’s just me and everyone else could tell right away

  • @darkangel3063
    @darkangel3063 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So, abt that "when someone says that final boss asriel Hot an Angel of death gets his wings" shit, I think toby was very annoyed about that someone says hes Hot, and like hes about to kill someone who said it

  • @commenteroftruth9790
    @commenteroftruth9790 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks I didn't know a lot of this.

  • @davidcrawford9026
    @davidcrawford9026 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh people were already talking about the protospamton. Theres porn of it for gods sakes

  • @therealdogtroid
    @therealdogtroid 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i think some deltarune characters left here are because of just toby
    he wanted to create deltarune first back in 2011, but made undertale instead

  • @TrifectShow
    @TrifectShow ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You missed this but the lion you mentioned is the one in Ch. 1 that traps the kings.

    • @theorycrafter300
      @theorycrafter300  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah I thought I remembered the lion from somewhere but I forgot where so I didn't include it. because I didn't know if I was miss remembering it or not.

    • @TrifectShow
      @TrifectShow ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@theorycrafter300Also The Angel art has 2 sets of horns.
      Same as the titans.

  • @heyzbeauz
    @heyzbeauz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Susie was designed before undertale.

  • @the-white-eye
    @the-white-eye ปีที่แล้ว

    the angel of death thing with asriel is probably just there because asriel in mythology is the name of the angel of death

  • @Queen_Introvert
    @Queen_Introvert ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw that Spamton thing on r/place this year and like I have seen it alot

  • @endit7934
    @endit7934 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The angel is asirel btw

    • @endit7934
      @endit7934 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The angel symbol was all over undertale undertale and it was foreshadowing a angel being asirel and in deltarune the symbol is there to do prob the lady boss in deltarune might be a angel/asirel

  • @EffectedGG
    @EffectedGG ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello!
    After watching this video (it was great btw!!!)
    I have checked out your other videos and they were all rlly well made and entertaning!
    I'm sure that you will grow fast
    Thats rlly all I wanted too say, good job!

    • @theorycrafter300
      @theorycrafter300  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much! I really appreciate the kind words. I'm glad you like them.

  • @t_h_e_g_r_e_e_n_o_n_e
    @t_h_e_g_r_e_e_n_o_n_e 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    welp based off of fangames, pink soul = fear. so id say the enemy would be spareable if you survive 5/4 attacks?

  • @BiomechanicalBrick
    @BiomechanicalBrick ปีที่แล้ว +2

    13:47 because it's somewhat interesting but not useful for any theory?

  • @foursidekm
    @foursidekm 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    5:50 blue and cyan (the colour you call light blue) actually aren't as similar as you think they are. If you look at a rgb colour wheel the distance between cyan and blue is the same as the distance between red and yellow. If anything cyan should be there over orange

  • @Rubywing4
    @Rubywing4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Everyman is referenced in both the light world and the dark world?
    MAYBE EVERYMAN IS THE ROARING KNIGHT!!!!!!! :O

    • @theorycrafter300
      @theorycrafter300  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think a some of people have theorized about that. who knows it might be possible.

    • @Rubywing4
      @Rubywing4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@theorycrafter300 It would definitely be an unexpected choice, and honestly I wouldn't mind if it was the case. XD

    • @theorycrafter300
      @theorycrafter300  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Rubywing4 tbh there's too many people that it could be at this point its probably easier at this point to rule out who it isn't rather than it is lol.

  • @markandilikepigs7
    @markandilikepigs7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    good video but I'm pretty sure that your point at 1:48 doesnt really make sense since all those examples in the video are in the actual game? still, good video
    edit: for the "sans in a poker hat" thing, maybe you were thinking of the xbox port's dog casino where sans is also wearing a poker hat
    edit 2: I actually quite like your star theory, I think its still true in the actual game because of waterfall alone but to a lesser extent than was maybe planned

    • @theorycrafter300
      @theorycrafter300  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yeah about the first part I didn't pick the best images for it lol. the shop keeper one is usually a bit obscured by the shop lady so I thought I show it since it was likely that not many people have seen the full image unobscured plus it just looks nice IMO. and the "judgment hall" one I just thought it was neat. and I'm glad you like my "star theory" again I don't think it means anything really lore wise I just think its interesting.

  • @kris117
    @kris117 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    in my opinion both versions of the angel in undertale are us (or frisk). referring to chara as the angel of death feels wrong to me considering it wasn't their choice to initiate the genocide route, it's more so us that chooses to free the monsters of the underground in either version.

  • @CyanCreate
    @CyanCreate 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    16:05 it says hero twice, their name was hero, in the og sketch toby put ness cuz funny

  • @koxbalon
    @koxbalon ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:03 Gltichtale fans know

  • @GamingAllday-tm4lt
    @GamingAllday-tm4lt ปีที่แล้ว

    "Yellow heart might be mettaton"
    Bro it's the yellow heart u use in mtt's fight...

  • @Cookieman245YO
    @Cookieman245YO ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't know why Toby sleeps on Deltarune so much is he working on it or not we havent heard anything since the chapter 2 included version unless some messages in the email from toby i don't know why we haven't heard anything on the last remaining chapters i know developing a game is hard to be faithful to the story and the fan base but cmon man where is it 😂😂😅

    • @theorycrafter300
      @theorycrafter300  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I mean tbh out of all the game developer's he is a pretty active in the community. He posts on twitter not only about Deltarune and Undertale but other stuff like that, theirs also the anniversary streams of Undertale and the Spamton sweepstakes event where he raised a lot of money for charity and not only that he foreshadowed some stuff in chapter 3, that and the seasonal newsletter ide say he is fairly active in the community in my opinion (at least a lot better than company's like valve is). Though I've already said it above the anniversary of Undertale is coming up (on the 17Th) so maybe toby fox also has some Deltarune stuff planed like when they played Deltarune chapter 1. But than again since the Spamton sweepstakes was fairly resent its probably not going to be anything too big. Who knows

    • @Cookieman245YO
      @Cookieman245YO ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theorycrafter300 thanks

  • @Jaminsongunner
    @Jaminsongunner ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super glad someone is talking about this my tweet has like 5 likes😂

    • @theorycrafter300
      @theorycrafter300  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Did you suggest someone do a video on the book or something? sorry I don't have a twitter or I guess now a X account lol.

  • @chrissysonicutdrloz
    @chrissysonicutdrloz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh! You probably made the "sans poker" note because of the dog casino in th Xbox version. So was Toby planning that in the early stages and just didn't add it 'til later? Or does the art book go up thru the Xbox release? I haven't read it.

  • @Shade-0
    @Shade-0 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait, you thought, that Frisk was the angel? I knew, it was Asriel from the very beginning.

    • @theorycrafter300
      @theorycrafter300  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I thought until now that most people thought that Frisk was "the angel" but I'm getting a lot of comments like yours saying they already knew it was Asriel was "the angel" so maybe it wasn't as crazy of a theory as I thought it was. Lol.

  • @Kelswagsinandballin
    @Kelswagsinandballin 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Unused stuff are interesting

  • @Konnorthe_megalomaniac
    @Konnorthe_megalomaniac ปีที่แล้ว

    I got it a few years ago it’s great

  • @PChal015
    @PChal015 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Шикарно! Все топ! Мне понравилось! Продолжай в том же духе!

  • @unreactivecontent
    @unreactivecontent ปีที่แล้ว

    Kickstarter? Not canon. Tweets? Not canon.
    Weird bootleg nursery rhyme video with my characters?
    Hmm...
    I haven't decided yet.

  • @sahilhossain8204
    @sahilhossain8204 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lore of So I looked through Undertale's art book... and Holy Shit momentum 100

  • @GwainSagaFanChannel
    @GwainSagaFanChannel 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    13:31 Queen mansion potery

  • @Mike9Craft
    @Mike9Craft 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    we were all-

  • @lizgudino5309
    @lizgudino5309 ปีที่แล้ว

    10:33 I thou gt that was the consensus already...

  • @awlomthesheepermen
    @awlomthesheepermen 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m guessing they were chara since chara=charecter

  • @Nightout88
    @Nightout88 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @1:01 i don't use scraped stuff at all since if it was scrapped it never fit the vision the dev's or creators intended for the game.
    using it feels like including something that was never meant to be used in the first place.

    • @Nightout88
      @Nightout88 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      like digging through the files is fine that's all stuff that made it into the game's code in someway
      but art work or stuff not in the files especially scrapped stuff just feels wrong.

    • @Nightout88
      @Nightout88 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @1:50 im pretty sure those are actually in the shops as well why? is that weird?
      like Gerson brings it up if you ask about it on pacifist.

    • @Nightout88
      @Nightout88 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah its because we are tied to the deltarune once again gerson talks about it how it represents the freedom of monsters and about how some people think it means the "underground going empty" means death instead of actual freedom.
      which ties back to us the player being an angel of "light or death" since we make the underground go empty.

    • @Nightout88
      @Nightout88 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @4:17 yeah that is 100% the brain rot talking lmao. she looks nothing like a whale skeleton.

    • @Nightout88
      @Nightout88 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @4:46 yeah that game was deltarune everyone has talked about that.

  • @ironlegs500
    @ironlegs500 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:23 Chara is short for Character which was used in the betas as a default name
    Chara is NOT the cannon name for the first human that fell down the cannon name for them is the name you put in

    • @epik_gaming9824
      @epik_gaming9824 ปีที่แล้ว

      "The true name"

    • @ironlegs500
      @ironlegs500 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      its a joke by toby fox dude@@epik_gaming9824

  • @the_radio_demon-1933
    @the_radio_demon-1933 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why does susie look so much like scp 682 tho

  • @Eysouel
    @Eysouel ปีที่แล้ว

    what happened if frisk was suspose to be a different soul?

  • @mrblakeboy1420
    @mrblakeboy1420 ปีที่แล้ว

    10:26 azzy isn’t from the surface

    • @ZaleahSunshineRivera
      @ZaleahSunshineRivera 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What? Asriel crossed the barrier to put Chara's body on the flowers.

  • @GamingAllday-tm4lt
    @GamingAllday-tm4lt ปีที่แล้ว

    "Chara is the angel of death"
    Dude, it's YOU / Frisk who is the angel of death. CHARA IS DEAD.

    • @theorycrafter300
      @theorycrafter300  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah Chara is dead but in the game its presumed that frisk is at least Undertale the influence?/ maybe possessed due to the fact Flowey says quote "Even more powerful than you and your stolen soul." and the fact that when you interact with the mirror it says "its you NAME" its defiantly implied that Chara is in possession of Frisk's soul. though that's my interpretation of it . And your free to have your own thoughts and theories on it. but that's what I interpreted it as.

  • @wasquash
    @wasquash ปีที่แล้ว +2

    dawg you’re way too late. like half the stuff you talk about we already knew.

  • @mrblakeboy1420
    @mrblakeboy1420 ปีที่แล้ว

    do you have a blacklight

  • @Tetromint
    @Tetromint ปีที่แล้ว

    Wowee!

  • @ralseithesilliest
    @ralseithesilliest 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    did you get a collecters edtion heart locket?

    • @theorycrafter300
      @theorycrafter300  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Um no. I just looked up this book online and read through it. don't have any Undertale merch (but I would like too) some of it is pretty good!

    • @ralseithesilliest
      @ralseithesilliest 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@theorycrafter300 you get it with the collecters edition...

  • @ihavenoidea598
    @ihavenoidea598 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wtf are you a deltarune reference???

  • @trentsuki
    @trentsuki 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    bro clearly hasnt played brandish

    • @theorycrafter300
      @theorycrafter300  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah someone else has already told me about my mistake I've never herd of brandish before and I didn't know that the planet buster was a reference to it. it was also mentioned somewhere in the book but for some reason I never bothered to look into it

    • @trentsuki
      @trentsuki 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@theorycrafter300 you should play it

  • @miniwhiffy3465
    @miniwhiffy3465 ปีที่แล้ว

    hmmm?

  • @Funnigoer
    @Funnigoer ปีที่แล้ว

    Flo wee