The fact that i can open my garage and see one of these is crazy to me. It's been a stellar bike so far and since i focus on mainly road riding, it suits my needs perfectly. The feel and power is enough to keep you entertained as well.
@IRQ1Conflict 3rd gear around 4k rpms to 8k there's an amazing induction noise that radiates from the headstock. And it power wheelies in first gear with the tc turned down so it's an absolute riot tbh.
Honda is following Yamaha's lead with their MT series of motorcycles.Lightweight and torquey is sure a winning formula off course with a reasonable price.
One of the best bikes I’ve ever owned. Cruise was a miss by Honda, but Veridian has a cruise upgrade that can source the AT switch gear and is plug and play. Sump guard, lower engine guards, heated grips and hand guards on order for some off-road on order and inbound. What a bike!
I have a 2019 Africa Twin Adventure Sports. One of the first things I did to it was swap the tall windscreen for a short one. AT/ATAS 2016-2019 all use the same bracket, so all windscreens are interchangeable on all models. I ride year round. In the summer, I need cooling air getting to my helmet vents. In the winter, I need air getting to the vents to prevent fogging. Unless you only ride in perfect weather, then you need air on your helmet. And if you think air touching your helmet is buffeting, you've never experienced buffeting. I've never had an interest in cruise control. You can't use cruise control in traffic, so it's useless on a commuter bike. I've never liked the feel of being propelled down the road in the second it takes to get my hand back on the throttle after recognizing a hazard. I use a CrampBuster. I've done two-week trips across the Western US without any trouble. And the CrampBuster works when commuting. The problem most people have with the AT/ATAS is the weight. Weight is not a problem on the tarmac, but once they get on anything but an easy dirt road, weight is a issue. What everyone wanted as the next evolution of the Africa Twin, was a lighter ATAS. The Transalp is not that. Honda retained the 21/18 wheels, but shortened the suspension, reduced clearance, reduced suspension adjustment. Range is an important factor on an adventure bike. Fuel mileage is reported to be quite good for the Transalp, but with a 4.5 gallon tank, Honda is not setting itself apart.
Always love your videos, they relax me. Just bought a transalp and love it. Some inaccuracies in the vid (screen isn't adjustable, there is basic satnav if you download the phone app) but it's good to see an honest reaction that isn't solely based on a speck sheet. Plenty of promotions running which get you £750 accessories included (not fitted) in the UK which got me the quickshifter, heated grips, touring screen and centrestand. Great bike and all i'll ever need.
Hi Chase I just watched Dork in the Road's review on this bike this morning and he mostly agreed with you that it is about 80% on road and 20% off road. He was surprised that he liked it so much. Dork in the Road is going to make a comparison to his T700. This bike I think is for the average person that want a all around good bike that can be taken on Forest Service roads once and a while but mostly on road. Big Rock Moto is also doing reviews on this bike so check them all out and it should give every one a very good sense of what this bike is about.
Glad to hear the detuned Transalp(Hornet?) motor has retained its spicy character. I've been waiting to put a deposit on a Hornet since they released them everywhere else and still no word from Honda. GSX 8S may have been my second choice (by a very small margin) but I picked one up yesterday (surprisingly at a discount). New bike is of course awesome and hopefully looking forward to your GSX 8S ride review since you now have access to them!
I got a new Hornet a few weeks ago here in Ireland. I've only put up about 400 miles so far. It's great but the throttle is a bit snatchy, you have to be very delicate with it or the bike will fly off on you. It wil probably improve the more I get used to it. How's the GSX 8S?
@@johnflavin1602 I had to try looking for throttle snatch (by running it at very low RPM) before I noticed any so I'd rate the throttle response of the 8S as pretty smooth. Congrats. on your new Hornet!
I rode the Hornet and the cb650r back to back, I liked the 650 more than the twin. But mainly because of the sound and me not needing nor wanting that low down punch the Hornet has.
OC - Great review! I reviewed the Hornet a few weeks ago and I've been riding the Transalp today and I agree with much of what you say. The key for me is I'm a bit confused, like you, where it sits. I found the engine relatively peaky, not unreasonably given the power, and slightly twitchy off a closed throttle which all gives the impression of a sporty, keen powerplant but then the suspension is soft (particularly the rear) and the steering slow. Though i tend to prefer 'adventure' bikes i feel the Hornet makes more sense as a package. The chassis is much more perky and matches the character of the motor far more closely, not as good as a distance machine for sure but the bike is not confused as to where it sits in the market either. The fact it's over $2,000 cheaper than the Transalp seals the deal!
Most people are going to commute and ride 25-200 miles a day. Windscreens are usually bad even the "taller" one. Schaaf went off a cliff with a skinny > than 17 inch front wheel like that on another bike so don't take it too aggressive into corners. Quick shifters and manual shifting works best at a certain rpm as does ANY transmission. Ducati likes to shift at high rpm. Every bike dives so use your rear brake.
Hey broski, if you want to do an updated Transalp test for one that's been modded, to include electronic push button cruise control. I've got Tusk 2Track tires on there, have the DynoJet tune on there which wakes it up even more, and a bunch of other things done to mine. Ordered some HyperPro progressive springs yesterday which should help it a bit more off road. It's handled most of the red section of the SM500 with zero issues. Did the Blue Ridge 250's off road course on it back in early October as well. I'm over in Lilburn, right near 78 if you ever want to take it for a spin, see what you think of it set up a bit more than stock.
OC: no cruise control? Definitely a miss on this bike. Over all im definitely surprised to see how well executed this bike has been. Specially with the low expectations
Also it is more expensive than Aprilia Tuareg which has CC and fully adjustable electronics. Tried to see if it also had quickshifter as standard but not sure.
Name any ADV bike, other than the Aprilia Tuareg 660, that has cruise control and costs less than $14k USD. As much as I would like to have CC on the Transalp, unless you have money to burn it's just not worth the premium you have to pay for a bike to get it, IMHO. Honda has laser focus with their marketing on this bike, they know what compromises to make to hit their target price. The only big miss, I would say, is thinking that their target buyer would prefer tubed wheels to tubeless.
Just for comparison, in Australia the Transalp is about $15,740, on the road, whereas the Tuareg is about $22,500. Although we had to wait a long time for it, at least we get the choice of three colour schemes, and the 90 hp. The Aprilias appear to be subsidised in some markets (including the UK?) but without the subsidy, that is the price difference. Say about 35% more. The Aprilia is a great bike, with higher-level components, but is far more off-road dedicated than the Honda, with a taller seat and a shorter first gear, or the Tenere for that matter. Both those models come with narrow, higher seats, direct hot air at the rider's legs, and no rack. But the Transalp is a bike that can surprise you, especially for its price. And NO heat on the rider. The cheaper buying price allows for some modifying to make it more capable on dirt roads (it's not a trail bike, and no 750 is in my view) but it is more competent on loose surfaces than I thought it would be. I must have done close to 1,000 kms on dirt tracks/roads. I am 5,500 kms in, and have just fitted Pirelli STR tyres, bash-plate, 'bear grip' footrests, a lighter rear rack, etc. I bought the bike with reservations, but have been pleasantly surprised by it. The engine becomes smoother, and engine noise diminishes, as you go. It feels better with the handlebar risers reversed, which makes the steering feel much better. I am liking it more than I expected to, and expect this model will sell well. As to 'who is it built for'? A lot of people, mostly over about 5' 8" (and 50 years old?) who want an all-round bike, with decent performance and remarkable economy, not too heavy, and for not too much money. The tank capacity is actually 16.9L officially, but can be filled above the baffle in the tank. It is able to cover over 400 kms on a tank, or about 250 miles, and is relatively light for its general specification. Much lighter than the equivalent Suzuki.
Not only in the UK. I am from Germany and got my Transalp in May. On every dyno the Transalps in the European spec produce around 93 hp in real life. My bike has around 94 hp with a SC Project muffler. I also shed off weight, which is around 202 kg now. It pulls and revs!!! It is so much fun. A bloody fantastic bike! Sorry for you guys. But also with 85 hp the Transalp engine still has its fantastic character. Just get an ECU flash.
I demo road Transalp twice. Once separately and another time just before test riding NC750X. I also yesterday test road V-Strom 800RE. To me, even NC750X feels faster up to 40-50 miles an hour than Transalp . V-Strom 800RE significantly faster than Transalp until about 60-70 mph. With 800RE whenever you open the throttle (in A mode) fully no matter revs, you need to hold yourself to handlebars. Transalp doesn't even get close to this feeling. Even next to redline it just barely catches up with 800RE. I'm really so confused about all these reviews saying how torqy and fast is Trasnalp, I just don't feel it (and yes, I tested in Sport mode). I thought maybe US version is tuned very differently, but commenters below that they feel the same in Europe (I tested Trasnalp in UK and in Lithuania. The only differentce I noticed between bikes between countries is that UK version had a weird clutch, like engagement is basically at the moment you release clutch, so it was not convenient, but this I guess is adjustable) Also, the 3700-4300 revs range is not really usable in Trasnalp, because too vibey, one will always switch gears to not be cruising in it. Before 3700 almost no vibrations, just on the tank. After 4300 it's acceptable, but not good. I guess similar like 8000RE after 5000-5500. Don't get me wrong, I still might end up buying Trasnalp. I loved 800RE I tested yesterday, seems very superior bike (by engine, gearbox, seat, start and release throttle is much gentler/even), but wind protection is unbearable (and that's often something unfixable. You put another screen and it's still shit most of the time), it just buffets all the time to the point my hands starts to move handlebars. Meanwhile Trasnalp sitting position is better and wind protection is insanly good (at least with deflectors, haven't tried without deflectors. I tried both short and large windscreens, both are great). I just wish that Transalp would only vibrate as much as 800RE and would have the same amount of power (in the feeling, not on paper) (tubeless would be nice too). Tomorrow testing Triumph Tiger 900GT
@@PovilasPanavas i appreciate your comment. Do you have a place I can go to to see all of your reviews? Like a forum. It was very insightful and would love to keep up to date with your test rides for my future bike purchases.
Honda Transalp and Vstrom 800 this years mid bike releases, both with no cruise is the oddest thing. These would be hot sellers if they added just this feature alone, but I am sure they will still sell well. I already own the 800DE as of 3 weeks ago and love the shit out of it. But I am sure once I start touring more with it, I will source out something for the Cruise Control.
Any ADV bike with CC is at least $4k more than the Transalp. I think Honda made the right compromise in order to hit that $10k price point - something had to give.
I have a 2020 Honda NC750X with the rare manual clutch and love it to death but it's 6th gear performance really suffers below 3500RPM which brings me to about 80MPH any RPM lower and the bike feels like it' laboring, I wish I could have the Transalp motor in my bike!!!!! Great Video
My long termer is an NC and i have the Transalp on test this weekend. Obviously a 53bhp 750 and a 91bhp 750 are going to feel way different but the NC is way more relaxed as a daily rider. The EU spec Transalp is pretty peaky and while it goes like a train when rung out I'm sure I want to do that hour after hour touring in the Alps. Perhaps the US spec is ideal where they've cut a little of the top end and pushed the torque a little lower in the rev range.
Don't know about 2020 as I did a trip this September in Europe with a rented 2021 NC750X DCT, and on Sport 1 mode it switches to 6th at around 90-95km/h which is 57 mph. No way you need to switch to 5th at 80mph. Makes no sense. If you want to overtake aggressively then yes, you will need to downshift. No way to overtake quickly at 57mph with 6th gear. You might even switch to 4th or even 3rd at that speed. I would also say that if redlining both then NC750X (2023 model) feels faster or the same speed as Transalp up to 50-55mph. However, on higher speeds Transalp wins easily. NC750X doesn't have pull after 50-55mph, Trasnalp still has until about 75-85
While obviously slower and less characterful i felt the CB500X was a more balanced package and you could feel that it had matured in to a really refine product. Great bikes.
@@alexanderthoj2851 it depends on your priorities really. The CB is a great bike, nicely finished, refined and has plenty enough poke with good suspension and brakes. The Transalp is a lot more expensive but a lot more potent. It's probably less forgiving and you need a bit more skill to get the best out of it. The finish looks a little more budget than the CB in some respects. In short if the CB is enough for you then the Transalp will probably be a waste, if you find the CB a little bit boring, the Transalp will certainly give you a bigger hit of excitement.
@@alexanderthoj2851I still love the piss out of my 500X, and I just got off of riding a Diavel V4 in Florida for a week. I think I want a Transalp after road-tripping with my wife on the back of the 500X, but only because I like to get away from people. As a solo rider the 500X is more than enough for everything. Both this XL750 and CB500X are pretty good off-road too. They both fill the same niche imo, but the 500X is the more affordable to operate, efficient, and flickable option while the 750 is a faster, more cruiser oriented, and better bike to load up with weight by no small margin.
If you know how to read the instructions or owners manual which is super easy to understand, I found the riding modes are super easy to change, the only annoyances I found is when you turn the key off all your setting revert to the defaults, and maybe that is for safety reasons Honda has to keep liabilities at a minimum. Honda is the world's largest motorcycle company by doing what they think is best, it might not always be what we want but most of the time it is for Honda's practical reasons I'm sure. Oh did I hear the word reliability = Honda.
It’s funny that many complain about the muffler and oil sump being so low. Well, it has the same clearance as the bmw gs 1250. So, don’t use that as a negative.
OC. One thing I cannot stand is the silver case bolts. Gives the side profile a weird look in the shade with shiny bolts just on case. Other than that looks like a great all arounder
Hi, I ride a Himalayan 411cc. And since my wife started joining me for long rides, I am looking for a bike around 800cc and comfortable for pillion. Any suggestions? Transalp, Vstorm 800, 850 GSA?
The most anticipated review I’ve been waiting for. I literally got the RC390 2 days before the transalp came in the store. Haha and i was watching the transalp for months too. Unfortunately the bottom of oil pan(might be another name for what it is) is so low. So I would have been afraid to off road it. But it’s absolutely the only major downside of the Transalp.
@@MotoCampAdv rc390 for a different purpose. Just had budget for one bike. And I did look at one in person. The bike is built to have a skid plate because it sits low. It’s not really low that would be ridiculous. But for technical riding it’s low.
@@MotoCampAdv haha yeah I know I’ve heard the jokes. haha I’ve only had adventure bikes and wanted to try sport for the first time. Trust me if I was 2 days late to the bike store I would have got the Transalp. 🤙 Congrats on your bike bro.
Honda is the king of motorcycle world, they know what they are doing believe me. Now, they have every department in adv category, crf300 to AT, nx500 to transalp, no worries for Honda, they have all tastes for different needs. My only complain is, transalp should have 19 inch tubeless.
I own the Ibex t and I like cruise control, heated grips and seat especially now it's getting into lower temps in NC. Ibex is great touring bike with off road capabilities. If Honda would have added those options that would have been awesome
800 easily, not ridden either but after sitting on them at a dealer the 800de is quite a beefy bike, while the transalp has a narrower profile. Both are quite tall but the transalp feels a good bit smaller and lighter than the 800de.
Fortnine did a great video on that topic, I highly recommend you watch it! But long story short, it has to do with the difference between noise and emissions tests in the US and the EU.
How would you rate it against the CFMoto Ibex 800? Here in Australia, The CFMoto is actually cheaper than the Transalp and it has way more standard features.
For those dissapointed with the Transalp, I can suggest 2 bikes around the same price which can beat the Transalp in most categories. KTM790ADV and Aprilia Tuareg 660.
@@podunkman2709 In Turkey they're the same price as the Transalp. The China made KTM I've been hearing from reviewers is feeling "No Different" than the Austrian made KTM after extensive testing. Even some BMW engines are china made. And actually not "made" but "assembled" should be the word we're both looking for. China has improved immensely in this area and will soon dominate the world.
I wish Honda didn't make this color. I was so excited for this bike but the only videos I've seen in the US show this paint scheme. To me it feels lacking. Great review though, the engine seems like a really good platform
Basically a higher HP higher torque KLR650. Looks like it, rides like it, squishy suspension like it and same tires size. But more HP and more price by about $3500.
I have ridden both for half an hour, transalp feels lighter, slow manover and turn are great on transalp. Similar seat height and upright position, Both are more upright that v-strom 650 xt that I own. And I like more upright position because of backpain. I owned a Kawasaki versys which is very upright in sitting , so I am looking at these two for a change. Both are betterl/more confident at 150kmh speed than versys 650. Versys and transalp are much more fun that v-strom also.
Really surprised there wasn't more A/B comparison between the IBEX 800. CFMoto's aggressive pricing/sales have the IBEX 800 T going for as low as $7,999. Sure it's bigger, but the power and displacement make up for any size disadvantage, while providing upper class ADV features for LESS.
@@podunkman2709 In reality they'll be used for similar duties and the differences largely cosmetic. The Transalp probably sits between the pure road going Tracer 7 and the more hard core Tenere 700 but i doubt many will go offroad on the Transalp nor will many use a Tenere 700 to solely tour on tarmac.
Me too. It sounds like its taking a jab at the t in lgbt. Or it's some kind of a high side jacknife situation that involves your transmission somehow. A trans slap
Tube tires are irritating, to say the least. If Honda had a tubeless tire version as an option, I would seriously consider it. However, like it is, it's a pass.
Dude thanx you squid been racing and riding everything since 1971 will hurt you on street you know nothing nobody Honda has won more championships then anyone sad you can’t keep up with a 62 yr old nobody 😊
VstromDE is the Toyota Thundra.... I rather a Thundra than a Ridgeline. Its easier maintenance on the vstrom than the transal; air filter, oil change, value check, etc vstrom is designed for easy accessing
@@MotoCampAdv tested ride them, even the tenere, which is the heaviest and slowest of the three. I'm getting a DE once it available, there's a few transalps and teneres around my area
ECU flash literally buys the US market the horsepower, but I will admit the red white and blue color way is a much better than the basic bitch black honda went with. Also continuing this topic, seriously WTF honda?! Selling the red white and blue model everywhere BUT the US? Seems a tad rude.
man,why you dont know for what it is for?its a transalp dude.same philosophy as 35 years ago.just mama honda make us a present,and gave us power,not to get bored.thats all
The engines styles couldn't be more different. The original was a plodder that was soft and predictable, the new one is peaky and slightly fussy off a closed throttle. Completely different characters and that's an issue.
There is absolutely no excuse for not offering cruise control even as an option. Suzuki is just as guilty with the new Vstrom. With ride by wire literally all it would take is adding the buttons and tweaking the ECU. Huge fail on Honda and Suzuki.
@@beaulunawolf1198 get the Africa twin if cruise control is a necessity . This is a bike made for rider engagement and you can tell by how it rides , try one you might buy one
It's illegal in Georgia and most of the southeren US unfortunately, cost me an R3 a little while back when a dumbass (stolen) van wasn't looking forward at a red light.
"If I had a bigger screen, cruise control and a more confortable seat, I could ride this bike all day" !? C'mon man! "If I was on another bike, I could ride this bike all day" , is what you're saying. Get the hornet if u like this engine! But if you want to traver or go on off road , this is not the bike for you. The vstrom DE is better off road and the ibex is propably better on road. One more thing. ALL BIKES NEED GREAT BRAKING!!!
Having ridden both i tend to agree with this guy. I normally prefer Adventure bikes but great while this engine is, it doesn't quite gel as well with the rest of the bike as the Hornet does.
@@Adventure_blaci am suprised that number did not go up. 459 is the same number that the european version got and the euro version does not include the 12 volts socket and quick shifter. I would assume that would have added 3 pounds but the US site shows the same euro number.
The fact that i can open my garage and see one of these is crazy to me. It's been a stellar bike so far and since i focus on mainly road riding, it suits my needs perfectly. The feel and power is enough to keep you entertained as well.
I hear (pun intended) it sounds good too.
@IRQ1Conflict 3rd gear around 4k rpms to 8k there's an amazing induction noise that radiates from the headstock. And it power wheelies in first gear with the tc turned down so it's an absolute riot tbh.
thats how i feel about my Husqvarna 701 Supermoto :)
Honda is following Yamaha's lead with their MT series of motorcycles.Lightweight and torquey is sure a winning formula off course with a reasonable price.
Have you reflashed the ECU?
I just appreciate how much excitement this guy had when he pulled 40-80
One of the best bikes I’ve ever owned. Cruise was a miss by Honda, but Veridian has a cruise upgrade that can source the AT switch gear and is plug and play. Sump guard, lower engine guards, heated grips and hand guards on order for some off-road on order and inbound. What a bike!
Do you know anyone who has installed the Veridian?
@@Romenet310 BigRockMoto have a video about that.
Love that my birthday came with a first ride 😎
Happy Birthday Sir! Consider this video your gift. haha
FINALLY! I love this for viewing the bike from the 3rd person point of view, and for a long time as well to really see the bike on the road!
I have a 2019 Africa Twin Adventure Sports. One of the first things I did to it was swap the tall windscreen for a short one. AT/ATAS 2016-2019 all use the same bracket, so all windscreens are interchangeable on all models. I ride year round. In the summer, I need cooling air getting to my helmet vents. In the winter, I need air getting to the vents to prevent fogging. Unless you only ride in perfect weather, then you need air on your helmet. And if you think air touching your helmet is buffeting, you've never experienced buffeting.
I've never had an interest in cruise control. You can't use cruise control in traffic, so it's useless on a commuter bike. I've never liked the feel of being propelled down the road in the second it takes to get my hand back on the throttle after recognizing a hazard. I use a CrampBuster. I've done two-week trips across the Western US without any trouble. And the CrampBuster works when commuting.
The problem most people have with the AT/ATAS is the weight. Weight is not a problem on the tarmac, but once they get on anything but an easy dirt road, weight is a issue. What everyone wanted as the next evolution of the Africa Twin, was a lighter ATAS. The Transalp is not that. Honda retained the 21/18 wheels, but shortened the suspension, reduced clearance, reduced suspension adjustment. Range is an important factor on an adventure bike. Fuel mileage is reported to be quite good for the Transalp, but with a 4.5 gallon tank, Honda is not setting itself apart.
Always love your videos, they relax me. Just bought a transalp and love it. Some inaccuracies in the vid (screen isn't adjustable, there is basic satnav if you download the phone app) but it's good to see an honest reaction that isn't solely based on a speck sheet. Plenty of promotions running which get you £750 accessories included (not fitted) in the UK which got me the quickshifter, heated grips, touring screen and centrestand. Great bike and all i'll ever need.
Hi Chase I just watched Dork in the Road's review on this bike this morning and he mostly agreed with you that it is about 80% on road and 20% off road. He was surprised that he liked it so much. Dork in the Road is going to make a comparison to his T700. This bike I think is for the average person that want a all around good bike that can be taken on Forest Service roads once and a while but mostly on road. Big Rock Moto is also doing reviews on this bike so check them all out and it should give every one a very good sense of what this bike is about.
Loving mine, it’s a real joy to ride!
This is the best ride review I’ve seen on this motorcycle.
Just picked one up today. Loving it so far!
Hey Jesse, 3 months in, how has it been?
Only 428lbs?! Holy crap that thing is a feather of an ADV bike 😂. Thats actually impressive
Curb weight is 459.
Yup Chase ain’t really the specs/ umbers guy when it comes to his reviews.
Exactly. His reviews are different but still enjoyable. Just don't expect a technical breakdown. @@Adventure_blac
Glad to hear the detuned Transalp(Hornet?) motor has retained its spicy character. I've been waiting to put a deposit on a Hornet since they released them everywhere else and still no word from Honda. GSX 8S may have been my second choice (by a very small margin) but I picked one up yesterday (surprisingly at a discount). New bike is of course awesome and hopefully looking forward to your GSX 8S ride review since you now have access to them!
I got a new Hornet a few weeks ago here in Ireland. I've only put up about 400 miles so far. It's great but the throttle is a bit snatchy, you have to be very delicate with it or the bike will fly off on you. It wil probably improve the more I get used to it. How's the GSX 8S?
@@johnflavin1602 I had to try looking for throttle snatch (by running it at very low RPM) before I noticed any so I'd rate the throttle response of the 8S as pretty smooth. Congrats. on your new Hornet!
I rode the Hornet and the cb650r back to back, I liked the 650 more than the twin.
But mainly because of the sound and me not needing nor wanting that low down punch the Hornet has.
OC - Great review! I reviewed the Hornet a few weeks ago and I've been riding the Transalp today and I agree with much of what you say. The key for me is I'm a bit confused, like you, where it sits. I found the engine relatively peaky, not unreasonably given the power, and slightly twitchy off a closed throttle which all gives the impression of a sporty, keen powerplant but then the suspension is soft (particularly the rear) and the steering slow. Though i tend to prefer 'adventure' bikes i feel the Hornet makes more sense as a package. The chassis is much more perky and matches the character of the motor far more closely, not as good as a distance machine for sure but the bike is not confused as to where it sits in the market either. The fact it's over $2,000 cheaper than the Transalp seals the deal!
The quickshifter's "hardness" can be set in the menus.
This is the bike I am looking at 😊
Most people are going to commute and ride 25-200 miles a day. Windscreens are usually bad even the "taller" one. Schaaf went off a cliff with a skinny > than 17 inch front wheel like that on another bike so don't take it too aggressive into corners. Quick shifters and manual shifting works best at a certain rpm as does ANY transmission. Ducati likes to shift at high rpm. Every bike dives so use your rear brake.
Vfr 1200, the 1000s African twin even the new goldwing are a blast to ride
Hey broski, if you want to do an updated Transalp test for one that's been modded, to include electronic push button cruise control. I've got Tusk 2Track tires on there, have the DynoJet tune on there which wakes it up even more, and a bunch of other things done to mine. Ordered some HyperPro progressive springs yesterday which should help it a bit more off road. It's handled most of the red section of the SM500 with zero issues. Did the Blue Ridge 250's off road course on it back in early October as well. I'm over in Lilburn, right near 78 if you ever want to take it for a spin, see what you think of it set up a bit more than stock.
OC: no cruise control? Definitely a miss on this bike. Over all im definitely surprised to see how well executed this bike has been. Specially with the low expectations
Also it is more expensive than Aprilia Tuareg which has CC and fully adjustable electronics. Tried to see if it also had quickshifter as standard but not sure.
@@getty6974 no it's not aprilia is more expensive. And aprilia motorcycles depreciate quickly because it's a niche market and reliability is poor
@@MotoCampAdv Well could Be market difference but here in Finland Tuareg is 500€ cheaper brand new than a transalp
Name any ADV bike, other than the Aprilia Tuareg 660, that has cruise control and costs less than $14k USD. As much as I would like to have CC on the Transalp, unless you have money to burn it's just not worth the premium you have to pay for a bike to get it, IMHO.
Honda has laser focus with their marketing on this bike, they know what compromises to make to hit their target price. The only big miss, I would say, is thinking that their target buyer would prefer tubed wheels to tubeless.
Just for comparison, in Australia the Transalp is about $15,740, on the road, whereas the Tuareg is about $22,500. Although we had to wait a long time for it, at least we get the choice of three colour schemes, and the 90 hp. The Aprilias appear to be subsidised in some markets (including the UK?) but without the subsidy, that is the price difference. Say about 35% more.
The Aprilia is a great bike, with higher-level components, but is far more off-road dedicated than the Honda, with a taller seat and a shorter first gear, or the Tenere for that matter. Both those models come with narrow, higher seats, direct hot air at the rider's legs, and no rack. But the Transalp is a bike that can surprise you, especially for its price. And NO heat on the rider.
The cheaper buying price allows for some modifying to make it more capable on dirt roads (it's not a trail bike, and no 750 is in my view) but it is more competent on loose surfaces than I thought it would be. I must have done close to 1,000 kms on dirt tracks/roads.
I am 5,500 kms in, and have just fitted Pirelli STR tyres, bash-plate, 'bear grip' footrests, a lighter rear rack, etc. I bought the bike with reservations, but have been pleasantly surprised by it. The engine becomes smoother, and engine noise diminishes, as you go. It feels better with the handlebar risers reversed, which makes the steering feel much better. I am liking it more than I expected to, and expect this model will sell well.
As to 'who is it built for'? A lot of people, mostly over about 5' 8" (and 50 years old?) who want an all-round bike, with decent performance and remarkable economy, not too heavy, and for not too much money. The tank capacity is actually 16.9L officially, but can be filled above the baffle in the tank. It is able to cover over 400 kms on a tank, or about 250 miles, and is relatively light for its general specification. Much lighter than the equivalent Suzuki.
Crazy to think the Transalp is slower in the US compared to UK but it’s still quick! Makes me wonder what we are missing out on!
It's still roughly 85 hp so not much difference between us and uk
Torque does a lot!
Not only in the UK. I am from Germany and got my Transalp in May. On every dyno the Transalps in the European spec produce around 93 hp in real life. My bike has around 94 hp with a SC Project muffler. I also shed off weight, which is around 202 kg now. It pulls and revs!!! It is so much fun. A bloody fantastic bike! Sorry for you guys. But also with 85 hp the Transalp engine still has its fantastic character. Just get an ECU flash.
I demo road Transalp twice. Once separately and another time just before test riding NC750X. I also yesterday test road V-Strom 800RE. To me, even NC750X feels faster up to 40-50 miles an hour than Transalp . V-Strom 800RE significantly faster than Transalp until about 60-70 mph. With 800RE whenever you open the throttle (in A mode) fully no matter revs, you need to hold yourself to handlebars. Transalp doesn't even get close to this feeling. Even next to redline it just barely catches up with 800RE.
I'm really so confused about all these reviews saying how torqy and fast is Trasnalp, I just don't feel it (and yes, I tested in Sport mode). I thought maybe US version is tuned very differently, but commenters below that they feel the same in Europe (I tested Trasnalp in UK and in Lithuania. The only differentce I noticed between bikes between countries is that UK version had a weird clutch, like engagement is basically at the moment you release clutch, so it was not convenient, but this I guess is adjustable)
Also, the 3700-4300 revs range is not really usable in Trasnalp, because too vibey, one will always switch gears to not be cruising in it. Before 3700 almost no vibrations, just on the tank. After 4300 it's acceptable, but not good. I guess similar like 8000RE after 5000-5500.
Don't get me wrong, I still might end up buying Trasnalp. I loved 800RE I tested yesterday, seems very superior bike (by engine, gearbox, seat, start and release throttle is much gentler/even), but wind protection is unbearable (and that's often something unfixable. You put another screen and it's still shit most of the time), it just buffets all the time to the point my hands starts to move handlebars. Meanwhile Trasnalp sitting position is better and wind protection is insanly good (at least with deflectors, haven't tried without deflectors. I tried both short and large windscreens, both are great). I just wish that Transalp would only vibrate as much as 800RE and would have the same amount of power (in the feeling, not on paper) (tubeless would be nice too). Tomorrow testing Triumph Tiger 900GT
@@PovilasPanavas i appreciate your comment. Do you have a place I can go to to see all of your reviews? Like a forum. It was very insightful and would love to keep up to date with your test rides for my future bike purchases.
Honda Transalp and Vstrom 800 this years mid bike releases, both with no cruise is the oddest thing. These would be hot sellers if they added just this feature alone, but I am sure they will still sell well. I already own the 800DE as of 3 weeks ago and love the shit out of it. But I am sure once I start touring more with it, I will source out something for the Cruise Control.
Any ADV bike with CC is at least $4k more than the Transalp. I think Honda made the right compromise in order to hit that $10k price point - something had to give.
@@alozbornecruise control would've given them an immediate hit at they price and it's not a difficult feature to implement. Really big whiff
@@alozbornean extra button and software update probably cost 100 bucks more. Im sure the next facelift they will add cruise control.
I always already leaning toward getting the transalp. This sealed it
I wish it had tubeless spoked rims, like the triumph 1200 scrambler
I have a 2020 Honda NC750X with the rare manual clutch and love it to death but it's 6th gear performance really suffers below 3500RPM which brings me to about 80MPH any RPM lower and the bike feels like it' laboring, I wish I could have the Transalp motor in my bike!!!!! Great Video
you just gotta shift into 5th gear below 80. maybe im just used to thumpers but all my bikes have chugged at the super low RPMs doesnt bother me
My long termer is an NC and i have the Transalp on test this weekend. Obviously a 53bhp 750 and a 91bhp 750 are going to feel way different but the NC is way more relaxed as a daily rider. The EU spec Transalp is pretty peaky and while it goes like a train when rung out I'm sure I want to do that hour after hour touring in the Alps. Perhaps the US spec is ideal where they've cut a little of the top end and pushed the torque a little lower in the rev range.
Don't know about 2020 as I did a trip this September in Europe with a rented 2021 NC750X DCT, and on Sport 1 mode it switches to 6th at around 90-95km/h which is 57 mph. No way you need to switch to 5th at 80mph. Makes no sense. If you want to overtake aggressively then yes, you will need to downshift. No way to overtake quickly at 57mph with 6th gear. You might even switch to 4th or even 3rd at that speed.
I would also say that if redlining both then NC750X (2023 model) feels faster or the same speed as Transalp up to 50-55mph. However, on higher speeds Transalp wins easily. NC750X doesn't have pull after 50-55mph, Trasnalp still has until about 75-85
I have a 23 CB500X and my dad just bought a Transalp. This is basically a nicer and faster CB500X. Worked well two-up with my wife.
While obviously slower and less characterful i felt the CB500X was a more balanced package and you could feel that it had matured in to a really refine product. Great bikes.
Which one would you prefer? I'm looking at a 23 cb500x but the transalp is very tempting
@@alexanderthoj2851 it depends on your priorities really. The CB is a great bike, nicely finished, refined and has plenty enough poke with good suspension and brakes. The Transalp is a lot more expensive but a lot more potent. It's probably less forgiving and you need a bit more skill to get the best out of it. The finish looks a little more budget than the CB in some respects. In short if the CB is enough for you then the Transalp will probably be a waste, if you find the CB a little bit boring, the Transalp will certainly give you a bigger hit of excitement.
@@alexanderthoj2851I still love the piss out of my 500X, and I just got off of riding a Diavel V4 in Florida for a week.
I think I want a Transalp after road-tripping with my wife on the back of the 500X, but only because I like to get away from people. As a solo rider the 500X is more than enough for everything. Both this XL750 and CB500X are pretty good off-road too.
They both fill the same niche imo, but the 500X is the more affordable to operate, efficient, and flickable option while the 750 is a faster, more cruiser oriented, and better bike to load up with weight by no small margin.
I did recently get to take my dad’s XL750 for an extended ride and more recently hit 10,300 miles on my 23 CB500X.
If you know how to read the instructions or owners manual which is super easy to understand, I found the riding modes are super easy to change, the only annoyances I found is when you turn the key off all your setting revert to the defaults, and maybe that is for safety reasons Honda has to keep liabilities at a minimum. Honda is the world's largest motorcycle company by doing what they think is best, it might not always be what we want but most of the time it is for Honda's practical reasons I'm sure. Oh did I hear the word reliability = Honda.
Could you try to do a review on a Honda CB650r
It’s funny that many complain about the muffler and oil sump being so low. Well, it has the same clearance as the bmw gs 1250. So, don’t use that as a negative.
I am one of the people stoked about it. It's really cheap but such value.
83 horsepower in the states. The European version is 90 hp
Only from the spark arrestor , exhaust mods uncorks it. And also it's 84 USA and 91 UK
what is a spark arrestor? im getting one and looking at ways to unlock the 91 hp@@MotoCampAdv
내년에 사고 싶네요! 좋은 영상 감사합니다!!
Can't wait to see the 2024 NX500 review..
seven fiddy is betta
OC. One thing I cannot stand is the silver case bolts. Gives the side profile a weird look in the shade with shiny bolts just on case. Other than that looks like a great all arounder
We need a comparison of this vs tenere vs ibex vs v-strom 800
This would be my bugout bike.😊
12:37 you forgot about the quick shifter 😆
Hi, I ride a Himalayan 411cc. And since my wife started joining me for long rides, I am looking for a bike around 800cc and comfortable for pillion. Any suggestions? Transalp, Vstorm 800, 850 GSA?
Tenere
I wish this engine was in a rebel 500 frame, I’m in the market for another bike in this engine class
Do you have a front right foot?
you can change the quickshifter's softness through the screen. at least on the hornet you can
Wait this one got adjustable suspension?
The Hornet I rode didn't
Fits right where the VStrom lives
We need the NT1100!!
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There is a cruise control accessory for it
Is that the Suzuki gsx8-s blue color scheme on the showroom?
The most anticipated review I’ve been waiting for. I literally got the RC390 2 days before the transalp came in the store. Haha and i was watching the transalp for months too. Unfortunately the bottom of oil pan(might be another name for what it is) is so low. So I would have been afraid to off road it. But it’s absolutely the only major downside of the Transalp.
No it's not . The exhaust sits lower and from there the ground clearance is 8.3 inches . Go actually look at one at least dude.
You bought a rc390 for off road lol
@@MotoCampAdv rc390 for a different purpose. Just had budget for one bike. And I did look at one in person. The bike is built to have a skid plate because it sits low. It’s not really low that would be ridiculous. But for technical riding it’s low.
@@jyrvo it's an adventure bike dude . Sorry you bought a KTM built in India . I sold mine for the Honda
@@MotoCampAdv haha yeah I know I’ve heard the jokes. haha I’ve only had adventure bikes and wanted to try sport for the first time. Trust me if I was 2 days late to the bike store I would have got the Transalp. 🤙 Congrats on your bike bro.
Honda is the king of motorcycle world, they know what they are doing believe me. Now, they have every department in adv category, crf300 to AT, nx500 to transalp, no worries for Honda, they have all tastes for different needs. My only complain is, transalp should have 19 inch tubeless.
When is the first ride on GSX-8S coming?
Cruise control can be fixed with a throttle lock, the other stuff can be fixed by a aftermarket wind screen and seat.
It is throttle by wire already...
@@tbillington you’re right I’ll edit my comment thanks
Nice and Top!! Greetings from Germany...i have also a XL750... great Bike and i love it!!
Sharp looking machine!
Change the screen and access all the settings by pressing holding the right arrow.
The Transalp or the Tiger 660?
Yet another positive review of this transalp!! Bike of the year ?
Eh? He rated it a 'pass' or "I wouldn't buy"
make a tenere700 video like this and compare.
I own the Ibex t and I like cruise control, heated grips and seat especially now it's getting into lower temps in NC. Ibex is great touring bike with off road capabilities. If Honda would have added those options that would have been awesome
I wonder why Honda didn't produce the Transalp 750 DCT?
Then it won't be cheap😅, and probably be priced the same as AT manual
Which is bigger? This or the 800DE?
800 easily, not ridden either but after sitting on them at a dealer the 800de is quite a beefy bike, while the transalp has a narrower profile. Both are quite tall but the transalp feels a good bit smaller and lighter than the 800de.
@@lucinxar2931 Thanks
What’s maintenance interval like? This vs T7 on sandy trails I’m curious as well
8k oil changes, 16k valve check
Not as good
Does anyone know why this bike has less HP in the States?
Fortnine did a great video on that topic, I highly recommend you watch it! But long story short, it has to do with the difference between noise and emissions tests in the US and the EU.
How would you rate it against the CFMoto Ibex 800? Here in Australia, The CFMoto is actually cheaper than the Transalp and it has way more standard features.
traitor !
For those dissapointed with the Transalp, I can suggest 2 bikes around the same price which can beat the Transalp in most categories. KTM790ADV and Aprilia Tuareg 660.
KTM790 is china made. Both are more expensive than Transalp.
@@podunkman2709 In Turkey they're the same price as the Transalp. The China made KTM I've been hearing from reviewers is feeling "No Different" than the Austrian made KTM after extensive testing. Even some BMW engines are china made. And actually not "made" but "assembled" should be the word we're both looking for. China has improved immensely in this area and will soon dominate the world.
Front need to be 19 inch with wider tyres. cast wheels need to an option.
Get a nc750
I wish Honda didn't make this color. I was so excited for this bike but the only videos I've seen in the US show this paint scheme. To me it feels lacking. Great review though, the engine seems like a really good platform
Greetings Mr. Chase! Hope
All is well.
Cb750 hornet?
Basically a higher HP higher torque KLR650. Looks like it, rides like it, squishy suspension like it and same tires size. But more HP and more price by about $3500.
It looks nothing like a KLR650, and 18/21 is basically standard in this segment. These bikes are apples and oranges
I bought one yesterday and it reminds me a lot of a klr. Funny you say that. Obviously much smoother and more powerful than the klr though
Amazing Machine !! How do you compare it to the CFMoto ibex 800??
It would take an entire video for that. lol
I have ridden both for half an hour, transalp feels lighter, slow manover and turn are great on transalp. Similar seat height and upright position, Both are more upright that v-strom 650 xt that I own. And I like more upright position because of backpain. I owned a Kawasaki versys which is very upright in sitting , so I am looking at these two for a change.
Both are betterl/more confident at 150kmh speed than versys 650.
Versys and transalp are much more fun that v-strom also.
@@chaseontwowheels a video comparison definitely needs to happen
No offense but he would have to own one and do a long-term review comparison.
If u know what is "touring" and what "adventure" means (most bikers have no idea). So cfmoto is more touring.
Weird. Despite him passing on it, his reactions while riding it makes me want one. 🤷🏻♂️
Why not even single word about anoying high frequency vibrations in hands?
I've got one on test today and I'll be reporting that and through the pegs, though the peg rubbers are removed on mine.
Really surprised there wasn't more A/B comparison between the IBEX 800. CFMoto's aggressive pricing/sales have the IBEX 800 T going for as low as $7,999.
Sure it's bigger, but the power and displacement make up for any size disadvantage, while providing upper class ADV features for LESS.
upper class *touring features.
@@Hadgerz and what "touring features" are those, that the IBEX 800 T doesn't have?
China boy, eh ?
Do the new zx10r pleaseeeeeeeee
That bike is basically Honda's version of a Tracer 7. I'm very surprised how awesome that exhaust sounds stock
Nope. Check out what is "touring" and what "adventure" means.
@@podunkman2709 In reality they'll be used for similar duties and the differences largely cosmetic. The Transalp probably sits between the pure road going Tracer 7 and the more hard core Tenere 700 but i doubt many will go offroad on the Transalp nor will many use a Tenere 700 to solely tour on tarmac.
Hopefully MCCruise will come to the rescue! And then Rally Raid. Of course by then you have probably added 2K to the price of the bike.
I keep wanting to call it the Tran-Slap 😅
LOL yes me too!
Me too. It sounds like its taking a jab at the t in lgbt. Or it's some kind of a high side jacknife situation that involves your transmission somehow. A trans slap
@@davidbielski3484 I guess using the quickshifter counts as a trans-slap 😁
4:35
Stop giving China money
Tube tires are irritating, to say the least.
If Honda had a tubeless tire version as an option, I would seriously consider it.
However, like it is, it's a pass.
Yo. Bmw 850 1250. Cmon man
Dude thanx you squid been racing and riding everything since 1971 will hurt you on street you know nothing nobody Honda has won more championships then anyone sad you can’t keep up with a 62 yr old nobody 😊
Low aha sump/oil pan
It's ground clearance is 8.3 inches the sump sits above that and under a skid plate .
I feel like i just watched an ad with video breaks.
I was excited about this bike and yes its a good price. However, I will stick with my Tiger 900 GT PRO. No cruise control, tubed tires thumbs down
not the same segment buddy
missing timestamps
Transalp is the Honda Ridgeline of motorcycles.
VstromDE is the Toyota Thundra.... I rather a Thundra than a Ridgeline.
Its easier maintenance on the vstrom than the transal; air filter, oil change, value check, etc vstrom is designed for easy accessing
Another echo . Did you ride one or just watch adventure undone videos ? I'm guessing the later
@@funyunmaybe if it was 50+lbs lighter
@@MotoCampAdv the de feel lighter than the transalp and it also feel faster.. downlow faster
@@MotoCampAdv tested ride them, even the tenere, which is the heaviest and slowest of the three. I'm getting a DE once it available, there's a few transalps and teneres around my area
Love the cheesy hip hop elevator music...
I can buy a quick shifter, which I did. But you can't buy horse power. You have what? 80 hp? I've got 91. And the much better looking white color.
ECU flash literally buys the US market the horsepower, but I will admit the red white and blue color way is a much better than the basic bitch black honda went with.
Also continuing this topic, seriously WTF honda?! Selling the red white and blue model everywhere BUT the US? Seems a tad rude.
"when a bike is this light...."
bike weight: 460lbs
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man,why you dont know for what it is for?its a transalp dude.same philosophy as 35 years ago.just mama honda make us a present,and gave us power,not to get bored.thats all
The engines styles couldn't be more different. The original was a plodder that was soft and predictable, the new one is peaky and slightly fussy off a closed throttle. Completely different characters and that's an issue.
@@BikingChap yes,thats exactly why honda made it easy and quit at lows,if you want to rev it and have fun,there you go.
You are the only guy I've seen who complained about the seat......
Its just a more laid back version of the africa twin
I disagree, the AT is a lot bigger but the power comes in far more smoothly and far lower down. ~The At is far easier to just duff around on.
There is absolutely no excuse for not offering cruise control even as an option. Suzuki is just as guilty with the new Vstrom. With ride by wire literally all it would take is adding the buttons and tweaking the ECU. Huge fail on Honda and Suzuki.
Buy a touring bike not an adv
@@MotoCampAdv That argument makes no sense. This is a $10000 multipurpose machine that Honda themselves markets as a touring/adv bike.
@@beaulunawolf1198 get the Africa twin if cruise control is a necessity . This is a bike made for rider engagement and you can tell by how it rides , try one you might buy one
Who likes a trans here and there? Nice Honda!
Looks like it was designed in the early 90's
Is that a bad thing?
@@HA_Horizons that's what I'm trying to figure out
It is a throwback to a model that ran from '89 till '90 so that makes sense.
Throw back dude you missed the memo
Not splitting lane with a bike is the absolute cringe.
It's illegal in Georgia and most of the southeren US unfortunately, cost me an R3 a little while back when a dumbass (stolen) van wasn't looking forward at a red light.
No cruise control ruins it for me.
"If I had a bigger screen, cruise control and a more confortable seat, I could ride this bike all day" !?
C'mon man! "If I was on another bike, I could ride this bike all day" , is what you're saying.
Get the hornet if u like this engine! But if you want to traver or go on off road , this is not the bike for you. The vstrom DE is better off road and the ibex is propably better on road.
One more thing. ALL BIKES NEED GREAT BRAKING!!!
Having ridden both i tend to agree with this guy. I normally prefer Adventure bikes but great while this engine is, it doesn't quite gel as well with the rest of the bike as the Hornet does.
Man. I do not like that Honda "V" face/headlight they put on so many bikes. It's ugly, and spoils a lot of their bikes. Keep it in the 2010's Honda!
It's growin on me..
459 pounds
458
@@MotoCampAdv 459 is pulled straight from the Honda us website. Also every us publication I’ve seen says 83 horsepower in the US and 90.5 in Europe
@@Adventure_blaci am suprised that number did not go up. 459 is the same number that the european version got and the euro version does not include the 12 volts socket and quick shifter. I would assume that would have added 3 pounds but the US site shows the same euro number.