I swear the people who design these kinds of cambered back roads are for sure driving enthusiasts...you don't just so happen to make perfect touge roads.
Not a backroad; Hwy 129 (Tail of the Dragon) in NC/TN. The Civic is Killboy's (the local photographer in the area) and he makes a living on this road every day. I'm sure he knows it like the back of his hand. Also, he drives his S2K more than his hatch.
@@ShuffleMasta That's not even a backroad? lol...man you guys are spoiled there, that looks like an absolute blast! Both drivers look very competent and their laning techniques are respectful esp. considering it's day time. Would love to see some videos of Killboy in his S2K.
They make the beginning of the race a hassle especially if you are trying to pass. Acceleration is key in corners, but entrance and braking can compensate if you can do it better than the other person
@@bobwarpath2395 if you don’t have good acceleration out of a corner just treat it like a go cart and keep your momentum which is something Hondas are great at
@@KenKaneki-oi6kh I made that comment 1 year ago. In the time that I have owned my restored 106hp base model del sol, THIS is exactly what hondas are good at. In idaho we have a road called Bogus basin road. Its the state Touge. The del sol can do EVERY corner but the U going 45 mph or higher without having to slow down for them. It feels like a gokart where you always have grip.
Only idiots will say that wing doesn't help keep the rear planted onto the pavement. *Everything* about this civic is performance oriented. If they were both even giving it 80% you would be amazed at what they could both do in their own element. I'd say these fellas were just cruising and having a good time. Nobody here was trying hard. (People need to realize that real life isn't Forza, nobody drives their car 100% on public roads. The few that do end up dead, or in jail)
falchulk it’s takes roughly 40mph with minimal downforce from a properly designed wing to apply 300+ lbs of downforce. If I can hit that speed with my lightly modified 350z turbo making 470hp on tighter roads, these guys sure as hell can. From someone who does this on a weekly basis they are hitting some pretty decent speeds. Also note most videos don’t do speed or distance justice. I’ve been 2ft from a friends back bumper and it looks like 100ft on camera. I hit 80mph and it looks like 20 on the video. I’d say on average these guys are running 40-60 mph. People also don’t realize how much effect on grip rear traction has on a FWD car. Especially ones as light as an EG. 4 wheels is always better than 3. Not to mention the effect on weight distribution.
falchulk dam you must be really bored if you’re trying to argue this hard with everyone.. And oh really? Then you must know more than F1 and The too world race engineers because that’s where I got that figure from. But it’s a general number because every scenario is different. And guess what cowboy, wings do fuck gas mileage lmao It’s a huge amount of drag placed on the car. Aero isn’t for gas mileage it’s for traction, downforce and grip. So what racing school did you go to with this mass amount of knowledge? But I “witnessed” said this car needed it. Just like nothing you witnessed made you have to come in here to argue with everyone. He has it, he probably knows more than you ever will about driving and performance with how well he built and drove that car. Why does this bother you so much? Instead of arguing on everyone else’s videos why don’t you actually attempt to upload one since you seem to be so smart about all this shit. I’ll even be your first view how’s that sound lol
falchulk it’s most likely producing about 30lbs of downforce at the rear but still that’s enough to keep the rear end balanced at higher speeds. If he tuned with the wing in mind then he set up the mechanical grip to have more oversteer on low speed (less than 35mph) and the wing balances that back to neutral anything above that. Obviously without a wind tunnel it comes down to the driver and how they feel the car respond to changes in tuning.
CK_32 Unless you made the wing yourself or it’s off eBay, most modern wings are tuned efficiently to create more downforce than drag. That’s just a baby 3D wing which at most in free stream air will produce about 100lbs of downforce @ 120mph. Now if it was 66” with a 10”+ chord and dual element then you might see 300lbs of downforce at the expense of top speed and gas mileage...unless you’re running a DRS
Marco Brancorsini yea no. Drag racing is pushing a car to it limits. And when you have extremely high powered machines, its difficult to control 1000+, launch and keep it straight.
Ricky R There are also 1000hp track cars, imagine how difficult they are to control in corners. Drag racing may require some skill but racing with corners requires even more skill and it's much more fun to perform and to watch.
Marco Brancorsini more skill? And you know this because? And yea 1000 hp track cars are backed by millions of dollars, companies, and raced through sanctions. The drag scene can build 1000+ hp cars out of their garage and drive it themselves. That skill is much more appealing to me.
There's adults who can't color within the lines... Then here you guys are doing what no driver in 25 mph traffic can do, but twice as fast. Full send received. 👊👌
I think both have a place in street racing except if you're not gonna stay in your lane it needs to be real late at night or u have a spotter with walky talkies
@@Rory695 regardless of the time of day.... quite obviously late at night is best. But you should never cut corners where you cant see ahead. Better to learn to drive quickly in the lane
*For those who don't know; this is recorded on Hwy 129 (Tail of the Dragon: 318 curves in 11 miles) in NC/TN. The Civic is Killboy's (the local photographer in the area) and he makes a living on this road every day. I'm sure he knows it like the back of his hand. Also, he drives his S2K more than his hatch.*
impeccable lane discipline, just two drivers having fun. perfect examples of true drivers and enthusiasts. wish there were more drivers like these on the roads.
Well the eg is legendary in the class its in I must say. If I ever owned a Honda it would have to be an eg for me. That's my baby. To me it's the lambo of the broke tuner section
sleepycb7 I don’t think either of them are really. Really stupid if you do, that’s how a lot of guys end up down the hill. Tracks are for 110%, cantons are for fun cruising.
That civic could very well have the same power to weight ratio as that gtr, with less than half the cost! Also, lighter cars tend to be quicker on the short tracks...(winding roads) ever watch a litre bike try and compete against a racing scooter, on a cart track?:)
Clean driving, nice line. It actually requires more skills to drive fast and stay in your own lane. Those talking about fully send on two lanes are just young and dumb
Nahh you'd be surprised what a decent suspension setup and driver mod can do. My Civic is a monster in the corners, but sadly mostly everyone in my area only likes drags and highway pulls so i only get to have fun at the track or with friends.
Hardly. All you do is follow the persons line. Leading is harder. The Civic is barely on the brakes and is braking as late in to the turn as he can and getting off the brakes as early as he can which is spot on. Faster exit speed.
We actually have some super killer roads like this in San Diego including a touge freeway! (8 east going down into the desert) but there is just so much traffic everywhere it adds a very exciting dynamic to racing
This is a perfect place for that civic, lots of tight technical turns. Something that a heavy beast like godzilla would have a harder time with. You do still hear when the GTR is cutting throttle before it get too close to the honda.
Impressive driving 👌 I found myself being judgemental of there choice of race line but then I remembered Duh there on a public road. They have to ride that Right lane like a rollercoaster lol be safe you guys 💯👍🏾
Fwd corners as good as anything! The problem is traction out of the bends when you have too much power! Youll be hard pressed to find a rwd car with the same power as a civic type r match its Nurburgring time! Weight on the driven wheels is quite handy on road tyres, rwd cars get too light on the back end and oversteer which may look good but isnt the fastest way around a bend.
They literally cannot corner hard enough to be touge competive in a lot of cases. It's not traction. It's understeer. That's not to say that fwd is bad at all! It's almost self-correcting under acceleration. But compared to RWD and rear biased AWD, they just dont have the same steering angle choices during acceleration.
I don't know how hard the civic was pushing it, but it took all I had to keep up. He does let off near the end when we are past the final mile marker to cool off.
We have roads here like this one and I can say from experience that just because the gtr has more power doesn't mean it'll win. Most of the straights aren't long enough to let it open up all the way. It's more important to be able to corner and maintain your speed and traction. But then again I feel like both cars weren't going 100% because neither were staying in lower gears. I'm not sure where the GTR's main power kicks in but im sure it's a bit higher up in its rpms. Same with that civic. Regardless this is a nice vid to watch. I thought this was Tennessee until reading through the comments. There's a lot of winding roads in the south lol
Don't know why the video description says it's sped up, everything looks normal to me... Maybe for pretending not braking the speed limit ... very entertaining video
Such beautiful scenery! I'd love to drive the roads like this, we do have some amazing roads in my country, but every country is different in it's own special way. Good driving, looks hella fun 🔥💪👊
It is and he says it in the description now, it honestly make me cringe seeing everyone in this comment section acting like the driving in the video is "amazing" and "godlike" when it's just a couple dudes driving along doing some pulls in between corners. Most of these people probably haven't ever even been behind the wheel tbh.
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Ornstein the DragonSlayer u stuck abut English why so hate fxxx racist if u want something comment in the point not abut English ok fxxx racist i don't know English I try best but if i comment u in Greece u be tell me again attack racist comments say me speaks English right because u no understand Greeks so u want say abut stability or boat or go fxxx racist out of here kid's.
ShutUp&Njoy my man I say what i see I no hate any or gtr I watch video and analysis Honda is more stability look back ass Honda no turn but true is truth Honda have better stability lightless lowers that's mean is flat and gtr try but no likes Honda both good cars.
I can see how light weight car can be good in backroad now. Both car moves differently and from the video I could see how heavy the gtr is through bend compare to the lighter civic. Both great car.
I have videos without chasing anyone but they end up being a bit boring. I don't have any videos with a rear camera. I might have to try that next time.
Only 40% sure that the GTR would gap that hatchback because you wpuld here the slip of the tire in the road it doesnt have enough traction pn the road so its hard for him to gap up and there are not enpugh straights on the road so it cannot pull up hard enough.
Doubt it... I like GTRs but this is downhill... And winding road... so very heavy car and Turbo sux in that.. so NA will do better although I don't know if the Civic is NA but there's already a weight advantage so less suffering in the tires and brakes
trying to imagine how fucked the gtr would have been without AWD. Giving it that much throttle early out of a sharp turn could turn nasty nasty nasty. Both cars have great drivers.
thing about those damn civics is they rev to about 7500 rpm… stock ECU and they get a lot of their torque up high using VTEC so while the GTR has to shift in order to stay within his power band, the hatch is cruising in one gear for those beginning minutes
I swear the people who design these kinds of cambered back roads are for sure driving enthusiasts...you don't just so happen to make perfect touge roads.
Not a backroad; Hwy 129 (Tail of the Dragon) in NC/TN. The Civic is Killboy's (the local photographer in the area) and he makes a living on this road every day. I'm sure he knows it like the back of his hand. Also, he drives his S2K more than his hatch.
@@ShuffleMasta That's not even a backroad? lol...man you guys are spoiled there, that looks like an absolute blast! Both drivers look very competent and their laning techniques are respectful esp. considering it's day time. Would love to see some videos of Killboy in his S2K.
Roads like this are actually made intentionally to keep drivers awake and alert. Real facts
@@F32Koto its the tail of the dragon
a well known road that a lot of people visit for that one reason. too popular to be a "backroad"
@@ShuffleMasta takumi in real life
0-60 times don’t matter when you can drive your car like this.
They make the beginning of the race a hassle especially if you are trying to pass. Acceleration is key in corners, but entrance and braking can compensate if you can do it better than the other person
From 2:20 on is where it was at full boogie.
Acceleration is best at exit speed.
@@bobwarpath2395 if you don’t have good acceleration out of a corner just treat it like a go cart and keep your momentum which is something Hondas are great at
@@KenKaneki-oi6kh I made that comment 1 year ago. In the time that I have owned my restored 106hp base model del sol, THIS is exactly what hondas are good at. In idaho we have a road called Bogus basin road. Its the state Touge. The del sol can do EVERY corner but the U going 45 mph or higher without having to slow down for them. It feels like a gokart where you always have grip.
Only idiots will say that wing doesn't help keep the rear planted onto the pavement. *Everything* about this civic is performance oriented. If they were both even giving it 80% you would be amazed at what they could both do in their own element. I'd say these fellas were just cruising and having a good time. Nobody here was trying hard. (People need to realize that real life isn't Forza, nobody drives their car 100% on public roads. The few that do end up dead, or in jail)
LexusVIP 400 people saying that have probably have never even had a car worthy of a canyon run lol
falchulk it’s takes roughly 40mph with minimal downforce from a properly designed wing to apply 300+ lbs of downforce. If I can hit that speed with my lightly modified 350z turbo making 470hp on tighter roads, these guys sure as hell can. From someone who does this on a weekly basis they are hitting some pretty decent speeds. Also note most videos don’t do speed or distance justice. I’ve been 2ft from a friends back bumper and it looks like 100ft on camera. I hit 80mph and it looks like 20 on the video. I’d say on average these guys are running 40-60 mph.
People also don’t realize how much effect on grip rear traction has on a FWD car. Especially ones as light as an EG. 4 wheels is always better than 3. Not to mention the effect on weight distribution.
falchulk dam you must be really bored if you’re trying to argue this hard with everyone.. And oh really? Then you must know more than F1 and The too world race engineers because that’s where I got that figure from. But it’s a general number because every scenario is different. And guess what cowboy, wings do fuck gas mileage lmao
It’s a huge amount of drag placed on the car. Aero isn’t for gas mileage it’s for traction, downforce and grip. So what racing school did you go to with this mass amount of knowledge?
But I “witnessed” said this car needed it. Just like nothing you witnessed made you have to come in here to argue with everyone.
He has it, he probably knows more than you ever will about driving and performance with how well he built and drove that car. Why does this bother you so much?
Instead of arguing on everyone else’s videos why don’t you actually attempt to upload one since you seem to be so smart about all this shit.
I’ll even be your first view how’s that sound lol
falchulk it’s most likely producing about 30lbs of downforce at the rear but still that’s enough to keep the rear end balanced at higher speeds. If he tuned with the wing in mind then he set up the mechanical grip to have more oversteer on low speed (less than 35mph) and the wing balances that back to neutral anything above that. Obviously without a wind tunnel it comes down to the driver and how they feel the car respond to changes in tuning.
CK_32 Unless you made the wing yourself or it’s off eBay, most modern wings are tuned efficiently to create more downforce than drag. That’s just a baby 3D wing which at most in free stream air will produce about 100lbs of downforce @ 120mph. Now if it was 66” with a 10”+ chord and dual element then you might see 300lbs of downforce at the expense of top speed and gas mileage...unless you’re running a DRS
Way more enjoyable and entertaining than straight line quarter mile races. Then again to each their own. That hatch has crazy pick up lol
Vinskikauski Amourelius I agree. Anyone can drive straight.
Marco Brancorsini yea no. Drag racing is pushing a car to it limits. And when you have extremely high powered machines, its difficult to control 1000+, launch and keep it straight.
Ricky R yes indeed. Both require skills.
Ricky R There are also 1000hp track cars, imagine how difficult they are to control in corners. Drag racing may require some skill but racing with corners requires even more skill and it's much more fun to perform and to watch.
Marco Brancorsini more skill? And you know this because? And yea 1000 hp track cars are backed by millions of dollars, companies, and raced through sanctions. The drag scene can build 1000+ hp cars out of their garage and drive it themselves. That skill is much more appealing to me.
There's adults who can't color within the lines... Then here you guys are doing what no driver in 25 mph traffic can do, but twice as fast. Full send received. 👊👌
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if you’re gonna touge.. STAY IN THE LINES this video is a perfect example
I think both have a place in street racing except if you're not gonna stay in your lane it needs to be real late at night or u have a spotter with walky talkies
@@Rory695 🤫
@@Rory695 regardless of the time of day.... quite obviously late at night is best. But you should never cut corners where you cant see ahead. Better to learn to drive quickly in the lane
@@supershifter4836 sure that wouldnt cause any attention from the police at all. 😉
@@boosted1328 I mean, if its in the middle of nowhere
*For those who don't know; this is recorded on Hwy 129 (Tail of the Dragon: 318 curves in 11 miles) in NC/TN. The Civic is Killboy's (the local photographer in the area) and he makes a living on this road every day. I'm sure he knows it like the back of his hand. Also, he drives his S2K more than his hatch.*
Thanks
do you know what engine is in the eg?
@@k.o.7629 I assume the stock engine, most likely tuned though.
Why doesn't the gtr be in front and then see a challenge or no challenge?
BRUH! I knew this terrain looked familiar. I had to drive through this a few times going through TN and back to NC. It was definitely fun lol
impeccable lane discipline, just two drivers having fun. perfect examples of true drivers and enthusiasts. wish there were more drivers like these on the roads.
Nakazato and Shingo just chillin
Glad to see them become good friends. Hope they don't get too close or else...
Love those Serbs when they argue about people thinking they are friends
Bruh this place looks so relaxing but crazy to drive on
Juan Medina reminds me of Algonquin highlands in North Ontario Canada. Someone tell me if I'm right
It's very nice
This is in Tennessee lol
The drive looks amazing!
I was going to say it was defintly somewhere in the Appalachian mountains
That's Civic changes directions quite seemingly effortlessly even though he's obviously not pushing it very hard
sleepycb7 my thoughts exactly
Well the eg is legendary in the class its in I must say. If I ever owned a Honda it would have to be an eg for me. That's my baby. To me it's the lambo of the broke tuner section
People love to forget that Honda is the winningest manufacturer in motor racing history. EG's don't engineer themselves.
Let us remember how competitive the B16 EG was in JTC. Even blacktop trueno's struggled until Toyota made the MR2.
sleepycb7 I don’t think either of them are really. Really stupid if you do, that’s how a lot of guys end up down the hill. Tracks are for 110%, cantons are for fun cruising.
Perfect example shows that you dont need power to hang with higher hp car in corners
Very true. There are some really fast s2k frs/BRZ and others up there.
zoomdirt2 YEAH YEAH agree agree
That civic could very well have the same power to weight ratio as that gtr, with less than half the cost! Also, lighter cars tend to be quicker on the short tracks...(winding roads) ever watch a litre bike try and compete against a racing scooter, on a cart track?:)
Evan Jones HAHAHAH yes it is.
You see they just go it smooth drive cause SLOW IS SMOOTH AND SMOOTH IS FAST.
Clean driving, nice line. It actually requires more skills to drive fast and stay in your own lane. Those talking about fully send on two lanes are just young and dumb
nah at night time, like 3:00 am they probably take the full racing line
lord thick nipples except you can’t see the full line
Nice driving guys. All that, at speed and only twice touching the yellow.
ArcadeTom fuck that the whole road is my track lol
Stukatta oh baby
Read the small print, this video was speeded up for entertainment purposes
They were not as fast as it looks 🤔
No, they were. It says sped up so that this video cannot be used as incriminating evidence of reckless driving charges ::think
Stukatta yeah cause crossing the yellow at 3:26 for example would definetely kill you
This is badass! Wish my Civic was a corner carver like that! Kudos to both drivers!
SGTR is that a ti in your profile pic?
WAFLZNSYRUP no thats my E36 M3 forged/turbo frankenstien ✌😉
Swap out your hp stickers with practice
That driver was just experienced with grip
Nahh you'd be surprised what a decent suspension setup and driver mod can do. My Civic is a monster in the corners, but sadly mostly everyone in my area only likes drags and highway pulls so i only get to have fun at the track or with friends.
Everyone is arguing about this and that but can we take a second to just admire this masterpiece for what it is?
Something i love about the touge is the beautiful scenery that surrounds the road. so peaceful.
Yea me to
Anyone else find this relaxing, therapeutic and exciting all at the same time?
2:32 once the technical turns came...sayonara
NSFWS4 Jā matane HAHAHAHA
Gtr was half assing it
lanesteele240 no civic was better in corners
TM 16 it is harder to chase. You have to worry about the car in front and you could miss break points watching them.
Hardly. All you do is follow the persons line. Leading is harder. The Civic is barely on the brakes and is braking as late in to the turn as he can and getting off the brakes as early as he can which is spot on. Faster exit speed.
Shingo VS Nakazato
Coincidence
[Shingo tactics intensifies]
Miko Tudio except bakazato has an R35.....
*Cool Vibrations*
Lmao I hate you for this
ChillinYetis lol hahaha
Very clean driving !
You didnt have to say your driving a gtr, we can tell from the sound😎
And I think to myself... What a wonderful rooooooooad...
That should be a sticker
Encore! Encore! Whoooo
I love how you go fast in only one lane, like everyone should do, great job
Great vid. Can't beat a well-tuned sport compact in the twisties. This what i love doing with my 510. Poor GTR couldn't stretch its legs.
They should block the road on both directions and let them race at full throttle
CATEGORY 7 lol.
Carlos Rivera Honda kill gtr.
Except they’re already going almost as fast as they can. For one lane anyways.
Carlos Rivera only in traffic for me for you noobs in closed road.
unexplained wearenotalone hahahaha sure buddy in your dreams!!
This sh#t looks like NFS CARBON but in real life, nice driving btw
this road give me "flash and sally driving on mountain roads" vibes
Nice driving , on both drivers , , but the little hatch loving this road huh !!! 👍🏼
That Civic was KISSING the edge of the pavement, what a great driver!
So that's tail of the dragon, that looks downright awesome
Civic is having all the fun playing keep away. The way it corners is beauty. Nothing like a good FWD.
Faster in one lane than most of the idiots in faster cars using two good on you for doing this the smart way.
That GT-R was getting a workout with all the mid throttle to downshift in turns.
I like this! Somewhat good law abiding citizens.. staying in the lines lol..
Aasa Stephenson how it should be done, if you go over you pushed to hard and need to slow down
hack deez look up rogue race civic vs ae86! Like that!..
hack deez sorry touge race civic vs ar 86 insane speed..
People fail to understand just how fun this shit actually is. normies see it as reckless but i see it as skill building at its finest
dats how u drive fast! not cuttin 2 d wrong side of da road all da time
filipe beat I like how u use “da” “d” to establish how solid you are
Adam Taylor thank u lol
filipe beat I don’t mean to sound harsh ❤️
Adam Taylor haha ok
The Sustainable Texan
neva went to school besides 7 years of english classes bro! lol r u crazy
This is some nice driving driving on your side of the road only responsibly
We actually have some super killer roads like this in San Diego including a touge freeway! (8 east going down into the desert) but there is just so much traffic everywhere it adds a very exciting dynamic to racing
single lane the whole what THIS IS WHAT TOUGE IS ALL ABOUT
This was relaxing, I liked this very much! Good job you two!
That civic is SORTED OUT! Nice build! Forgot how great GTR's sound too. What a road!
Hard to beat killboy hatch. That's his mountain.
I get stationed an hour from Nashville next Aug and I cannot wait to visit this place once a month.
Damn y'all must really know that route that's nuts
Footage of a wild civic DESTROYING corners THIS IS AWESOME!
LOVE HOW UR KEEPING IT IN BETWEEN THE LINES. MA G!!!!
The perfect lane maintenance is heavenly to watch 😍
The rythm is relaxing. Nice video.
Something about them staying in the lines cruising together made this video very enjoyable
Good handling both guys
on hell of a spot, the scenery was rather colorful and with some canyon carvers running them roads it looks like a real life Initial D
One of the most iconic drivers' roads in the U.S. Cool vid.
Do you know where this is ? It isn't the dragons tail is it ?
@@byronbranch4645 it is
This is a perfect place for that civic, lots of tight technical turns. Something that a heavy beast like godzilla would have a harder time with. You do still hear when the GTR is cutting throttle before it get too close to the honda.
can you put some eurobeat in it? anyway the roads looks really really nice, wish i have it on my hometown
Faiz Noeris Yes it's my favorite road. I go every couple months.
Faiz Noeris this is Z dlc pack for Forza download now man with Reginal code togueracing
Drift in night then turn off your headlights half the race then. Play Forever Young
Deja Vu!
Same, my roads look like a meat lovers pizza
The literal definition of power to weight ratio
The civic was pretty quick through the corners. But damn that gtr did it so smooth!
The dragon is fantastic! Great video💪🏻 that civic is nuts😜 Nothing like a well built Eg hatch to tear up the mountains🔥🔥🔥
that Honda is planted to the road
Omg what of those roads.
In Russia you destroy your suspension at the parking lot of a mall while moving 2 km/h.
Nice road, where is it?
Raymond Hodges this is around north carolina.
Raymond Hodges tail of the dragon I think in Tennessee
looks like it I've driven it in assetto
Joey Rivera you mean Mexico.
It's in the smokey mountains Tennessee
That is a good balanced civic, probably took their time developing the gearbox ratio's and suspension/tire setup, very nice
That civic is on rails!
Impressive driving 👌 I found myself being judgemental of there choice of race line but then I remembered Duh there on a public road. They have to ride that Right lane like a rollercoaster lol be safe you guys 💯👍🏾
I drive my civic like that every day. Fwd keeps you well grounded through turns like these if you know how to drive.
MJSMIR yup people think fwd can't corner good but it's all about the driver and skill tbh left foot braking and trail braking are a must plus heel toe
Mrs Magik they cant corner enough tho
Fwd corners as good as anything! The problem is traction out of the bends when you have too much power! Youll be hard pressed to find a rwd car with the same power as a civic type r match its Nurburgring time! Weight on the driven wheels is quite handy on road tyres, rwd cars get too light on the back end and oversteer which may look good but isnt the fastest way around a bend.
Don't forget about understeer in FWD...
They literally cannot corner hard enough to be touge competive in a lot of cases. It's not traction. It's understeer.
That's not to say that fwd is bad at all! It's almost self-correcting under acceleration. But compared to RWD and rear biased AWD, they just dont have the same steering angle choices during acceleration.
I love this road I grew up on the tail of the dragon 🐉
beautiful autumn road 😍👌
You definitely had the power advantage. But that civic had a super fast line!
Can you upload a video with the GTR being the lead car? I feel the GTR would gap the civic. He lets off a lot in this video.
I noticed that also. He should have used a pull off instead of holding up traffic.
I don't know how hard the civic was pushing it, but it took all I had to keep up. He does let off near the end when we are past the final mile marker to cool off.
That's killboy's Civic. He was barely driving. He's one of the fastest around on that road.
Looks like the eg is holding off tbh
We have roads here like this one and I can say from experience that just because the gtr has more power doesn't mean it'll win. Most of the straights aren't long enough to let it open up all the way. It's more important to be able to corner and maintain your speed and traction. But then again I feel like both cars weren't going 100% because neither were staying in lower gears. I'm not sure where the GTR's main power kicks in but im sure it's a bit higher up in its rpms. Same with that civic.
Regardless this is a nice vid to watch. I thought this was Tennessee until reading through the comments. There's a lot of winding roads in the south lol
Don't know why the video description says it's sped up, everything looks normal to me... Maybe for pretending not braking the speed limit ... very entertaining video
beautiful mountain
Such beautiful scenery! I'd love to drive the roads like this, we do have some amazing roads in my country, but every country is different in it's own special way. Good driving, looks hella fun 🔥💪👊
Nice driving..Want to see down hill race
vtecken I'm there all the time, I'll try to get some good downhill footage.
yap..I'm sure the GTR is much faster than civic on uphill. So I think it will be a great equal race on downhill.
Anyway, safe drive man!
May I know what kind of suspension the civic was using? I'm sorry newbie here
Lol it was hardly a "chase" they were both cruising along.... oh wait the video is sped up -__-
Xenyx they can't really go full throttle, since the street is still public.
I wasn't implying anything on the drivers more so about how the title is misleading
Its not sped up. They are just fast
It is and he says it in the description now, it honestly make me cringe seeing everyone in this comment section acting like the driving in the video is "amazing" and "godlike" when it's just a couple dudes driving along doing some pulls in between corners. Most of these people probably haven't ever even been behind the wheel tbh.
Xenyx it says speed up for legal reasons so they dont get into trouble smartass
Bugatti users: I have high engine powers
Civic users: but do you have any skills?
Love tennessee and georgia mountains
Who cares about a fast car, it's fun watching a fast driver.
Honda best stability and gtr feel like move boat left right.
runbear fxxx the English fxxx racist what's is ur problem tell me ur point of comment abut English or u stupid fail kill time in TH-cam watch comment about others how the writing English or bad u fxxx racist get fxxx off here.
Ornstein the DragonSlayer u stuck abut English why so hate fxxx racist if u want something comment in the point not abut English ok fxxx racist i don't know English I try best but if i comment u in Greece u be tell me again attack racist comments say me speaks English right because u no understand Greeks so u want say abut stability or boat or go fxxx racist out of here kid's.
ShutUp&Njoy my man I say what i see I no hate any or gtr I watch video and analysis Honda is more stability look back ass Honda no turn but true is truth Honda have better stability lightless lowers that's mean is flat and gtr try but no likes Honda both good cars.
Gtr twice the weight
He gets comfy after the 5min mark. Respect
That road though.
rallymadRS tail of the dragon
I can see how light weight car can be good in backroad now. Both car moves differently and from the video I could see how heavy the gtr is through bend compare to the lighter civic. Both great car.
Racing videos should never be sped up...
full build page or any social media page of that civic? plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
I want to see the video where the GTR is the lead car. I think GTR would gap the civic.
I have videos without chasing anyone but they end up being a bit boring. I don't have any videos with a rear camera. I might have to try that next time.
The civic is a long time local resident and photographer for killboy on the dragon. No the gtr wouldnt have pulled ahead lol.
Who's GTR caught on fire?!! not this one!
///Sixth Gear not this one.
Only 40% sure that the GTR would gap that hatchback because you wpuld here the slip of the tire in the road it doesnt have enough traction pn the road so its hard for him to gap up and there are not enpugh straights on the road so it cannot pull up hard enough.
Saw the Tn sign at the beginning and knew EXACTLY which road this was 😂
GTR takin it easy
pbh22a the civic is lmao
Yea that L
Anything but...
In my opinion, that Civic was just cruising. GTR would’ve met a tree if it pushed itself any harder. 🤷🏼♂️
Doubt it... I like GTRs but this is downhill... And winding road... so very heavy car and Turbo sux in that.. so NA will do better although I don't know if the Civic is NA but there's already a weight advantage so less suffering in the tires and brakes
the guy who drives the gtr said it took it all he had to keep up and the civic wasn’t even pushing to his full potential
trying to imagine how fucked the gtr would have been without AWD. Giving it that much throttle early out of a sharp turn could turn nasty nasty nasty. Both cars have great drivers.
I understand what you mean. I had a Z06 before the GTR and I had to be a lot more careful with the throttle or things would not end well.
definiltey sped up, gtr movin way too quick
Thanks
Zadi
Looking for the comment about Hector and his 3 civics running Spoon engines 😂😂
This looks so fun and satisfying
thing about those damn civics is they rev to about 7500 rpm… stock ECU and they get a lot of their torque up high using VTEC so while the GTR has to shift in order to stay within his power band, the hatch is cruising in one gear for those beginning minutes
Bro! Why is it so clean!!!??? Dang nice...
This is awesome. Makes me miss my Type R. I upgraded to a M135i. It's much faster but nowhere near it in the corners. Love a good Honda👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Japan is Turn Central 😎😎😎😎
The Civic driver is the better driver hands down! Very cool video both drivers are good!
Perfect roads, driving, & video quality!!!
"Yo GTR wrong road dude, the drag strip is back the other way!"
i could watch this all day
Is this the tail of the dragon?
The description says it is.
Hodna is just driving back home from work. Nothing special.