Nah English cannot be the same lvl as byz. Yes it is slightly harder than before because of the balance changes, but still it's English-civ made for beginners(easy to play, no hard mechanics).
Order is actually to be played with a differed mindset, instead of going for gold focus units you wanna spam trash. Reason being orders trash units get the best health and damage compared to the gold units who get shirked except dragon hand cannoneers. Order spears can easily take on cav and even maa due to the doubled damage and the +1 melee armor, have unique cross shaped aoe torches that allows a unique farm and house raiding play. Gilded Archers with higher base damage, more speed, 60% attack rate and access to +3 ranged armor that can push other ranged units except javelians with ease. Gilded horsemen are extremely lethal to siege considering you can surround them with double the attack power. Because of the much higher base health of order units investing the gold into buff and heal prelates makes them even more difficult to deal with.
Good stuff! Idea for a tier list (at least would be interesting for me): rush build tiers (across all civs). Thank you for your videos (p.s. yes, I'm gold league )
Warning for those who blindly go cow boom into sofa spam and are able to win with it in gold league as mali . They might think mali is easy . BUTTTTTTT the reality will be revealed when you will find out that opponent micro is a matter of A move and your micro is handing 4 group of army at same time efficiently ( at high level)
they should just give mongols option to walls in imp which will cancels the buidling mobility. just an thought . probably something similar will be implemented in a variant civ in the future
I decided to learn Delhi as my new civ recently and i find it extremely overwhelming. There's so many things to do at every point that i am even idling my tc, which barely ever happens with the other civs i play like French, English, hre, abba. It makes sense why they're all considered easier to play
@Skyline68230 I think it is quite easy to play as before- tower of victory, finish the game in feudal or die. Now with the dome of faith and pro scout meta, more balance towards castle and late game, there's just so much to do at the same time.
Delhi is the easiest civ to play because you need to just click through all buildings and forget about them. There is no resource management or anything like that you just make army or age up. Everything else is free
Nearly 100% Agreement. Was a bit surprised about english positionining BUT I can follow the argue. Also RUS it is 100% the same of my oppinion. Also HRE feels a bit confusing to me. I feel cause of Castle LM and Prelats it is a bit harder to play with the benefits of the Civ. But also here I can follow the argue. Like to see how you see about the civs and me as a kind of beginner is on the same line. Thanks for the content.
Totally agree, only 2 civs I still cant play and hard for me are mongols and malians, also you are not chilling playing chinese or delhi - you have to click a lot
When byzantine came next english went down 2 tiers XD This tierlist is named which civ is hard to play, not which civ is the hardest to win tournament with. I like the adaptation in the end. It all makes sense.
I feel like Delhi should be lower, it's so much easier to just click every upgrade first chance compared to making a decision every time whether an upgrade is worth the cost at a current point in time. Also, I feel like Rus should be higher. Luring a boar next to a woodline to then kill it there and then making a tower and a hunting cabin whilst also raiding with knights at the same time is not easy. Certainly harder than playing French or English. The rest seems fine to me. Perhaps I would move JD one up because you have to micro her a lot and I happen to lose her quite frequently when I don't realize she's being focused down. It would help if her icon would flash when taking damage, the way it is being done in a 22 year old RTS called Warcraft III. Even when looking somewhere else, the flashing icon really pulls your attention to the fact that your hero is taking too much damage. In AOE4, we have 2 massive icons of JD, but I can barely see her health bar without paying close attention whilst her XP-bar is like 5 times the size.
Byzantine was phD.... but lot of people have phDs. Mongols on the other hand, it's rocket science. Wish there was auto unpack feature with AI help, so we could play Mongols like true Mongols, moving bases
At least in my opinion China still deserves its own tier (phd+ aka prof.) at least on skill levels below conq. It is strong. But if you make mistakes these often hit you harder compared with other civs.
I think malians, chinese and zhu xi are most difficult to play and Delhi really strong in late game, English and byzantine are best defensive civ, mongols is powerful on open map, abbasid is balanced and most easiest to play, and also my favorite civ
I never understood the "Malians is a hard civ". I'm pretty bad at the game, but I can get diamond with malians. But for some reason, I legit cannot play HRE (which is pretty easy apparently) for the life of me after 500h of playtime and watching every Beasty HRE guide ahah
A good Malian army is easy to loose if not tended to properly. They are indeed hard. Since they are low armor they often have to kite. The problem is the units should be faster and should be the fastest foot units in the game. This speed does not come until Imperial age and even so other civs have speed bonuses. A darn villager will out run the archers. I think the nerfs were not right to the warrior scout and now they are the slowest horseman (equivalent) in the game. I understand pro players raided will with them and they healed up fast but horsemen have the same speed and can be healed with prelates where allowed. I want the Farimba to produce units with only gold again. The Byz have oil to buy units in batches and this makes them unique in that sense. I like the TC cost gold and not stone. I do not care what any one says, my experience is Chinese nest of bees needs to be nerfed. Anything done to mangonels should apply to NOB. Often its the only think that saves a Chinese player. Chinese, Japanese and other Civs can supervise or some other means to increase production speed of archers especially. Javs should come out for Malians much faster. They end up spamming units and only when they run out of resources they stop. Malians cows, great. Have you played against Delhi. The have like 50 villagers and spamming elephants. They produce a lot of food real quick with bonuses. What a rant, yeah, Malians have it hard on and off the field.
She Dragon on my Order till I Wololo.
took from primagen. i know what you done there
And you Wololo'd on her Tithe
Now pink converted into brown
bro talked 10 minutes about why english is medium then moved it down 2 tiers without saying anything. xd
Right. But the thoughts stay. English is more difficult than some seasons before. Thats the point. Or would u say its same like Byz?
Nah English cannot be the same lvl as byz. Yes it is slightly harder than before because of the balance changes, but still it's English-civ made for beginners(easy to play, no hard mechanics).
@@Schnitzel2368 no fucking way, eng is the easiest civ to ever exist
next: civ soundstrack tier list
I just discovered your channel me and my friends started playing aoe4 and your vids help a lot to learn the game
Rubbish list. The hardest civ is the one that I am currently playing because I am bad.
Order is actually to be played with a differed mindset, instead of going for gold focus units you wanna spam trash. Reason being orders trash units get the best health and damage compared to the gold units who get shirked except dragon hand cannoneers. Order spears can easily take on cav and even maa due to the doubled damage and the +1 melee armor, have unique cross shaped aoe torches that allows a unique farm and house raiding play. Gilded Archers with higher base damage, more speed, 60% attack rate and access to +3 ranged armor that can push other ranged units except javelians with ease. Gilded horsemen are extremely lethal to siege considering you can surround them with double the attack power. Because of the much higher base health of order units investing the gold into buff and heal prelates makes them even more difficult to deal with.
Good stuff! Idea for a tier list (at least would be interesting for me): rush build tiers (across all civs). Thank you for your videos (p.s. yes, I'm gold league )
Hey, nice video! I'm new and this was the first video I watched.
Warning for those who blindly go cow boom into sofa spam and are able to win with it in gold league as mali . They might think mali is easy . BUTTTTTTT the reality will be revealed when you will find out that opponent micro is a matter of A move and your micro is handing 4 group of army at same time efficiently ( at high level)
they should just give mongols option to walls in imp which will cancels the buidling mobility. just an thought . probably something similar will be implemented in a variant civ in the future
I decided to learn Delhi as my new civ recently and i find it extremely overwhelming. There's so many things to do at every point that i am even idling my tc, which barely ever happens with the other civs i play like French, English, hre, abba. It makes sense why they're all considered easier to play
And then there is this guy in beasty's chat genuinely thinking Delhi was among the easiest to play !
@Skyline68230 I think it is quite easy to play as before- tower of victory, finish the game in feudal or die. Now with the dome of faith and pro scout meta, more balance towards castle and late game, there's just so much to do at the same time.
Main thing is to hot key all you eco buildings .. exp f1 f2 f3 f4 so as soon as you age up you can tab through everything and quickly get all upgrades
@@kristianwhite7278 this
Delhi is the easiest civ to play because you need to just click through all buildings and forget about them. There is no resource management or anything like that you just make army or age up. Everything else is free
Nearly 100% Agreement. Was a bit surprised about english positionining BUT I can follow the argue. Also RUS it is 100% the same of my oppinion. Also HRE feels a bit confusing to me. I feel cause of Castle LM and Prelats it is a bit harder to play with the benefits of the Civ. But also here I can follow the argue.
Like to see how you see about the civs and me as a kind of beginner is on the same line. Thanks for the content.
Totally agree, only 2 civs I still cant play and hard for me are mongols and malians, also you are not chilling playing chinese or delhi - you have to click a lot
When byzantine came next english went down 2 tiers XD This tierlist is named which civ is hard to play, not which civ is the hardest to win tournament with.
I like the adaptation in the end. It all makes sense.
Welcome back
Make a tier list for common build orders
I feel like Delhi should be lower, it's so much easier to just click every upgrade first chance compared to making a decision every time whether an upgrade is worth the cost at a current point in time. Also, I feel like Rus should be higher. Luring a boar next to a woodline to then kill it there and then making a tower and a hunting cabin whilst also raiding with knights at the same time is not easy. Certainly harder than playing French or English. The rest seems fine to me. Perhaps I would move JD one up because you have to micro her a lot and I happen to lose her quite frequently when I don't realize she's being focused down. It would help if her icon would flash when taking damage, the way it is being done in a 22 year old RTS called Warcraft III. Even when looking somewhere else, the flashing icon really pulls your attention to the fact that your hero is taking too much damage. In AOE4, we have 2 massive icons of JD, but I can barely see her health bar without paying close attention whilst her XP-bar is like 5 times the size.
Byzantine was phD.... but lot of people have phDs. Mongols on the other hand, it's rocket science. Wish there was auto unpack feature with AI help, so we could play Mongols like true Mongols, moving bases
U r right. My friends told me 😊
Man was in South Africa and did not even come to say hello, smh
Please put voice dubbing on your videos. You are watched by the whole world
At least in my opinion China still deserves its own tier (phd+ aka prof.) at least on skill levels below conq. It is strong. But if you make mistakes these often hit you harder compared with other civs.
12:35 😂😂😂so funny
I think malians, chinese and zhu xi are most difficult to play and Delhi really strong in late game, English and byzantine are best defensive civ, mongols is powerful on open map, abbasid is balanced and most easiest to play, and also my favorite civ
w ranking
TY
Hope you raided that good ol' dark chocolate
Still want a civ tier list for us peasants for single or team games
Ty
I never understood the "Malians is a hard civ".
I'm pretty bad at the game, but I can get diamond with malians.
But for some reason, I legit cannot play HRE (which is pretty easy apparently) for the life of me after 500h of playtime and watching every Beasty HRE guide ahah
I think even in lower leagues mongol are hard to play with. Especially if opponent is not dumb.
what do u stream on??
Pretty sure he is sitting on a Chair.
We need holland back in aoe IV
GAYMERS
All around
The world
👏👏
You lost the chance to add Baboon tier for hre and ootd 😢
Camels are stronger than elephants. Camels are tanks/aircraft carriers in game
Any civ seems easy when they are spanking my ass in ranked
Me playing an easy civ*
Stuck in elo hell*
Rip
ffas :D
GAMERS
Yo gamers 🎉🎉🎉
Always entertaining. But dear Beasty, in 2025 you don't need so many disclaimers. If you say it's your opinion, that should be enough.
2025?
@@Blindguardianfan1998 ah true :)^^ sry. correct it.
I felt out of place. Im silver. Hehe
I tried ottoman and it’s shit. English is da bae
A good Malian army is easy to loose if not tended to properly. They are indeed hard. Since they are low armor they often have to kite. The problem is the units should be faster and should be the fastest foot units in the game. This speed does not come until Imperial age and even so other civs have speed bonuses.
A darn villager will out run the archers.
I think the nerfs were not right to the warrior scout and now they are the slowest horseman (equivalent) in the game.
I understand pro players raided will with them and they healed up fast but horsemen have the same speed and can be healed with prelates where allowed.
I want the Farimba to produce units with only gold again.
The Byz have oil to buy units in batches and this makes them unique in that sense.
I like the TC cost gold and not stone.
I do not care what any one says, my experience is Chinese nest of bees needs to be nerfed. Anything done to mangonels should apply to NOB. Often its the only think that saves a Chinese player.
Chinese, Japanese and other Civs can supervise or some other means to increase production speed of archers especially. Javs should come out for Malians much faster.
They end up spamming units and only when they run out of resources they stop.
Malians cows, great. Have you played against Delhi. The have like 50 villagers and spamming elephants. They produce a lot of food real quick with bonuses.
What a rant, yeah, Malians have it hard on and off the field.
Agree malian warrior scouts were ruined 😢
Why no USA in game? it should be strong
Russian easier than english? No way
Rus easiest civilization to play
The once phD needed civ, is not the hardest civ anymore 😂
Time passes and things change. Imagine that.