What I pick up from this is that his shoulders rotate exactly square to his spine angle on the way back - but the as the arms and hands come down at the start of the fwd swing they seem to be taken there with the deep downwards movement of the right shoulder - from the film more than the simulation, it looks like the shoulder comes down a line that extends to the ball. That feels very deep when I make a move like that on the practice ground.
When I have made this move you absolutely can slog it with your right hand/arm in the way Hogan describes in his book - you feel so far behind the ball it feel easy to right hand whip the ball.
COULD YOU SHOW THE SECRET HA!!....no but seriously i have always felt his big move that he developed was the little role of the wrist just before impact which helped him square it.....he called it his 'harley' move as in a harley mortor bike etc. can you show this....cheers.....love your instruction.
very interesting thanks, how about the way his hands move low and to the left and sort of 'disappear' compared to many pro's of today who seem to extend down the target line ? with much more separation of the arms from the trunk, why is there such a difference ? further how the back swings of many of the great 'old' golfers from Jones to Trevino had tremendously different bswings yet at impact they were textbook !! Isay this as modern teaching often appears to be backswing obsessed, but its all about impact
Hogans shoulders were level at address and he never tilted behind the ball. Most teachers teach you to tilt which is WRONG. Hogan stayed on top of the ball and pushed off his right leg which actually makes you go left.
I enjoy Tiger, but this is not the greatest comeback. Not even close Hogan was run over by a bus. Have you seen that car? Lost his sight in his left eye and broken many bones in his body. Enough said.
Great job ! Looking forward to more videos using the trace software. Thanks
Very much appreciated info. Many thanks from Cornwall UK!
It looks so simple when Ben Hogan is swinging the club. He was a machine.
These trace movements of Mr. Hogans swing are tremendous!!!! Todd Sandow PGA
He had a fairly level shoulder turn. The lowering of the right should on the downswing was accompanied by his entire movement (head and all).
What I pick up from this is that his shoulders rotate exactly square to his spine angle on the way back - but the as the arms and hands come down at the start of the fwd swing they seem to be taken there with the deep downwards movement of the right shoulder - from the film more than the simulation, it looks like the shoulder comes down a line that extends to the ball. That feels very deep when I make a move like that on the practice ground.
When I have made this move you absolutely can slog it with your right hand/arm in the way Hogan describes in his book - you feel so far behind the ball it feel easy to right hand whip the ball.
i understand the shoulder are just square at address for Mr hogan, but David Leadbetter mentions to keep them slight open. any thoughts pls
COULD YOU SHOW THE SECRET HA!!....no but seriously i have always felt his big move that he developed was the little role of the wrist just before impact which helped him square it.....he called it his 'harley' move as in a harley mortor bike etc. can you show this....cheers.....love your instruction.
Trace right upper arm from shoulder to elbow. Particularly in relation to how the upper right leg moves from hip to knee.
It had to have been very light grip pressure for the heavy end of the club to follow that trace
Maybe his shoulders move along the Hogan pane of glass. What do you think?
very interesting thanks, how about the way his hands move low and to the left and sort of 'disappear' compared to many pro's of today who seem to extend down the target line ? with much more separation of the arms from the trunk, why is there such a difference ? further how the back swings of many of the great 'old' golfers from Jones to Trevino had tremendously different bswings yet at impact they were textbook !! Isay this as modern teaching often appears to be backswing obsessed, but its all about impact
thatwilldonicely please trace the upper right arm ... right shoulder to right elbow. Can you also do a trace view from his back or from his front?
Hogans shoulders were level at address and he never tilted behind the ball. Most teachers teach you to tilt which is WRONG. Hogan stayed on top of the ball and pushed off his right leg which actually makes you go left.
Hogan had his irons bent 4 degrees flat
Ben rotated his shoulders a full 90* on his backswing... Most golfers only go about 45-60*...
Very big turn, he was much more flexible than people realize.
I enjoy Tiger, but this is not the greatest comeback. Not even close
Hogan was run over by a bus. Have you seen that car?
Lost his sight in his left eye and broken many bones in his body.
Enough said.